All I ever see are these kind of girls, pic related. The loud

Try church.

>>17271214
These are "normal" girls. Your perception is just skewed.

>>17271238
I can see that. Maybe I should rephrase the question: though I am in good shape and good enough looking, I'm not huge, nor do I really have the personality to own it in a bar or club (I usually get into convos with strangers tho)

So where can I find these normal girls not at bars, and what can I do to increase my odds?

>>17271288
Get normie male friends, make friends with their normie female friends, go to dinner/house parties/gatherings with them.

>>17271309
My "normie" friends don't know that many women. Im moving back to them in the burbs (after about a year in a faraway city for work)Also, we are all in our mid-twenties so we all don't have time to goof around as much. I'd be considered a "normie", just with a wider range of interests, and not 100% on par with socializing(more like 90%), but I am pretty normal.

Yoh gotta be able to meet people w/o mutual friends, and not tinder, right? (Like I said, im not a greek god, so tinder doesn't really work)

>>17271336
I'm not a greek god either, and I get fucking tons of matches from inner city chicks when I live in the fucking exurbs of my city. You've just got to look like a chill person and have a witty bio.

Also, join a mixed gender sporting team or other hobby if you're mad desperate. Cooking and language classes are great too. A hiking group? Start going to gigs. Drink at quieter, more community focused bars or coffee shops.

>>17271348
I do get like 1-3 matches a day, but they never respond usually. I think thru what I start with, make a comment about something on their profiles, etc. I dont say some generic stuff. I figure most girls use it as an ego boost to see guys into them. Little do they know most guys keep hitting the like button without looking.

Maybe I need to accept that I need to wait. Keep doing what I do, and eventually luck will have me meet someone. I'd join a club or something, but my lige is hella busy with activities as it is.