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Mentally ill ex friend

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>childhood best friend
>comes out the closet after hs
>tell him i cant support or be his friend anymore
>break contact and apparently after I did so did a lot of our mutual friends
>move back home 4 years later after college
>apparently friend became suicidal and found comfort in drugs
>currently under tight surveillance
>His parents asked me to visit him
What should I do. I mean I feel bad that hes in that state and want to help. But I already broke off our friendship and said I wouldnt support him anymore. And even if I did go see him Im not sure what I would say since we went our separate ways. Like I have a strong memory of my childhood friend and Id jump at the chance to help, but I know that my childhood friend is just a memory.
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>>17182014
You should kill yourself for abandoning a friend over something that would literally make zero impact on your life.
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>>17182014

dont go. you abandoned him for being a fag, so why bother trying to help him you know theres no cure.
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>>17182126
I agree op is beta fag can't handle a guy liking dick because you're in denial about liking it yourself
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>>17182126
I had my reasons and I dont feel guilty for my actions, so if you were hoping to prey on that you are out of luck.
>zero impact on your life
You could be a serial rapist and itd never have an impact on my life either. Thats not an argument.
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If this is bait fags like you need to stop promoting hate.
If this isn't bait KILL YOURSELF
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>>17182129
Im not certain but his parents think that being around me would help bring him back to a state when he wasnt suicidal. Like reminiscing with me would help him remember what its like not to feel like he does. Im not entirely sure since they didnt really go into detail about what they were expecting. Just that they were reaching out to me and heard that things like this could help.
>>17182131
Its always nice to see comedic replies like this during a somewhat serious dilemma. I mean obviously anyone who doesnt like fags is a fag in disguise. Its hilarious.
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>>17182137
>hate
And what hate am I promoting exactly. Im asking if I should go see him or not.
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I agree with the other advice posted in this thread. You should kill yourself OP
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>>17182145

you werent willing to be his friend cuz he was gay, you arent going to help him through this. a small chat isnt going to fix him
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>>17182154
Fortunately Im too happy in my life to have any desire to kill myself. Now my ex friend here does seem to.
You internet warriors are so quick to wish death on others its hilarious.
>oh I dont like you. die
fucking pathetic
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>>17182161

kinda like you did with your friend?
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>>17182158
Well see, there are people with degrees and a lot more experience and knowledge than you saying it could.
But even then that doesnt mean I should go if it were guaranteed.
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>>17182166
lol are you thinking straight. Perhaps Im crazy and dont remember typing about how I wished death on my childhood friend.
Im not some sick internet warrior like you trying to kill people.
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>>17182161

Hey man, you asked for advice. I'm only trying to help. My reasoning is this: if I were your friend, I would resent you so much for abandoning me over something so completely inconsequential and normal. Therefore, I think it would make your friend feel better if you killed yourself; sort of like a weight off his chest. Then he might stop being suicidal. It would also most likely make the world a better place - or maybe not idk but it's worth a shot. If you don't want to listen to solid advice in an /adv/ then do whatever the hell you want, see if I care.
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Op must be Catholic
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>>17182180
>something so completely inconsequential and normal
Why are you making things up.
>I think it would make your friend feel better if you killed yourself; sort of like a weight off his chest
Oh I see lol. Well unfortunately for you I love myself enough to never consider killing myself. Even if it were to help someone I care about. So its especially not going to be for someone who I dont support.
Lol I love how internet warriors try to kill off people they dont like. Might as well be hitler.
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>>17182192
You dont have to be catholic to have a moral ideology.
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ITT: opie is a huge asshole and an abandoner of friends

Nothin to see here folks move on
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>>17182133
>prey on that
I wasn't trying to "prey" on anything. I know people like you are often incapable of feeing guilt or remorse anyway. I just wanted to let you know what an entitled, arrogant, piece of shit you really are.

I know that doesn't matter to you in the slightest, but this might: I hope you weren't expecting advice with a "problem" and attitude like yours, because it isn't happening. Look at the state of your thread so far and you'll see what I mean.
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>>17182199
So say your friend told you he was a pedophile and enjoyed taking the virginity of 8 year old little girls. Would you stay by him or a\would you be an asshole and abandoner of friends?
Just asking out of curiosity,
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>>17182209
Sorry, I cant hear you over all of that butthurt.
I never really expect things from 4chan. But its always nice to waste time here while deliberating. And hell I get to see people like you who make me want to stay more faithful to my beliefs than I did before.
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>>17182212
Those are two different situations. Two different types of people.

Unless your friend there likes preying on delicious cock from underage people I don't see why you asked me that.

In your scenario first thing I would do would be gain some proof of some sort then report the person so he can get busted. Being gay isn't a fucking huge crime like being a pedo is.

Again, you are an asshole opie and won't garner much support this way
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>>17182195

Listen man, I really don't give a fuck if you live or die. Do what you like. Let your friend kill himself and don't feel bad about it. Continue being a piece of shit. It won't affect me in the slightest. I was just giving a suggestion.
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>>17182220
So youd betray your friend. I see.
And you call me an asshole when not only would you do the same thing, youd do worse.
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>>17182222
lol you just suggest people kill themselves and Im the piece of shit. Your hypocrisy is palpable.
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>>17182014

You abandoning him is probably a large part of why he's in that state in the first place. If you truly want your friend to get better, you should never speak to him again. Let mental health professionals and people who actually care about him deal with him.

You didn't want to be his friend then, and you don't want to now. You're only considering this as an obligation to his parents to make you seem like a better person. If you aren't willing to rekindle the relationship don't talk to him.
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>>17182014
if this was me I'd confide with him in his bedroom and then grab his hair and tug him towards my cock as I pull down my pants and after I had came I'd slap him and tell him how fucking worthless he is. but thats just me
>tfw having a sexual fetish that only works when the other person is drunk
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>>17182277
this is what being a faggot does to you.
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>>17182219
How is him being gay a reason to spot being his friend, do you think that now that he's gay you magically are two? It makes zero sense and your retarded for long a friend like that. And dot go back, I wouldn't want to be friends with a shallow fuck like you anyways
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>>17182014
You did the right thing anon,being gay is a mental illness, but now that he is even in a worst state of mental illness you should go there and convince him to get help for both his suicidal and homosexual tendencies
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>>17182269
Its evident you are letting your butthurt blind you.
Someone is sick. You dont have to want to be their friend to wish they were better.
>Let mental health professionals and people who actually care about him deal with him.
Funny you say that when they are coming to me.
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>>17182344
>having beliefs you stick by is being shallow
My sides. I know its hard for you to understand but most of the world doesnt approve of homosexuals or support them.
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>>17182014
>coming to /adv/ for real advice

this place is basically tumblr, dude. as i am sure you can see from the replies you're getting.


don't visit him, it will only make shit worse

his tumblr friends can visit him
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>>17182014
B A I T
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>>17182365
how is it bait? if one of my freinds came out as a fag i'd ignore him too
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>>17182360
Well Im here while I decide how to act. Im not quite ready to go around freely talking about this and this small board on a chinese stick drawing forum is secluded enough to where I dont feel bad talking about it.
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>>17182368
He thinks Im baiting because he probably never has had a friend with suicidal tendencies and cant imagine what its like for people to actually have to deal with stuff like this. He probably also cant imagine that someone wouldnt want to be friends with a homosexual. And worst of all he probably thinks homosexuals are happy people which is just blatantly false.
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>>17182198
Nobody on 4chan is a national socialist freak besides some of /pol/. Even /b/ and /r9k/ are usually just being satirically, ironic, but most commonly fishing for shock value. Everyone here besides the trolls and the odd hyper conservative will tell you you're a piece of shit biggot. You're not going to get genuine advice just because of how douchey and unfair you seem to the average person. (Yes most people are fine with gay people now, cry about it). I would recommend a more conservative place like stormfront
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>>17182397
>everyone on 4chan agrees with me or they are trolling
Thats a really pathetic mindset. Ive been on this chinese cartoon board since I was well underaged. If you think the world is fine with homosexuality you truly are a sheltered little child. Youll grow up though when you leave your bubble.
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>>17182350

Your constant use of the word butthurt has convinced me that this is a bait thread. Enjoy your bites OP.
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>>17182422
>his butt is hurt because he was called out for being butthurt
Ignore your stay on 4chan. Fucking newfag.
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I heard 4chan had turned into tumblr, it's still weird to see it with my own two eyes.
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>>17182439
Its just this board mainly.
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>>17182379
>because he probably never has had a friend with suicidal tendencies

But you're not the guy's friend though. You explained in the OP that you didn't want to be friends with him anymore. I'm having a hard time understanding why you're pretending to care about this guy when you've already demonstrated that you don't.
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>>17182452
Do you think that Ive never had friends who were suicidal. I know its hard for you to understand this, but a lot of people are depressed and have this problem. And some of them are my friends.
>pretending to care
lol you are so heartless you cant understand the idea of wanting someone not to die even if you arent their friend.
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Don't visit him. Maybe it could help him if you decided to stop being an idiot, accept his homosexuality and rekindle your friendship. But since it's obvious you're not interested in doing that, chances of you being helpful are low.

I mean, what's the plan? You visit him and talk a bit. Then what? If he likes talking to you and asks to become friends again, how will you respond? "Sorry bro, but you're a fag so I can't be your friend"? Because that sure as hell would undo any comfort you might have given him.
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>>17182452
This.

He's probably suicidal because he is gay and he can't feel accepted. He encounters rejection even from his so called "friends". Your visit would probably just remind him what pieces of shit you all are for rejecting him. You will just make things worst. Leave him alone, he doesn't need fake pity, he needs support which you obviously cannot provide.
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Honestly, if you can't accept your former friend being gay, you're the last person who should talk to him when he's depressed.

I have some former friends who have been through a lot of shit since we broke up, but I still don't feel the need to get in contact with them. It's not healthy to rekindle a friendship based on pity and trauma.
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>>17182502
>trying to stop someone from killing themselves is fake pity
solid advice you got there.
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>>17182519
EVEN IF you have pity for him, it doesn't mean you can support him. I wouldn't be surprised if after your visit he'd kill himself.
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>>17182479

>calling someone else heartless after abandoning a childhood friend during one of the most vulnerable times in their life

lol

So you don't want him to die. That's why you care about him all of the sudden. Ok I can get behind that. As for what you should do? Nothing. If you actually don't want him kill himself, you should leave him alone, because you abandoning him is one of the reasons he's in this predicament in the first place. The best thing you can do for him is not remind him of one of the most painful experiences of his life, which is all you would do if you tried to talk to him.
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>>17182542
I dont want anyone to die lol. I dont wish death upon even my enemies. Nothing sudden about it.
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>>17182542
EXACTLY.

I can even imagine the conversation:
>Hey buddy! Please don't kill yourself.
>Have you finally come to your senses and accept my sexuality?!
>FUCK NO! I still think you are a rotten faggot, just don't kill yourself...
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>>17182353
Not that anon, but you can have strict religious beliefs and still befriend gay people. If your beliefs are that strong, and you're a Christian, you're in the wrong for turning a sinner away. He needs help, not abandonment. If you can't provide help and acceptance, then you're just going to abandon him again. He'll be dead sooner than later.
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>>17182617
1) Im not catholic
2) If I were christian Id be one of the ones telling you to reform before you burn in hell. Not the ones pretending to have beliefs because it makes you happy.
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OP doesn't want his ex best friend to die because he doesn't want to feel guilty about it after. What a selfish piece of shit.
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>>17182628
1) I didn't say you were Catholic.

2)
>If I were christian Id be one of the ones telling you to reform before you burn in hell.
That's fine, as long as you don't abandon people. Christians should turn away from the sin, not the sinner. Correction and rebuking is fine, judgement is not.

>James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
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>>17182665
>using the filthy KJV of the bible
That is the most bastardized version there is and its literally just propaganda and feel good stuff. Try using a real translation next time to make your point.
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>>17182629
>youre a selfish piece of shit because you dont want people to die
You people are so pathetic.
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>>17182688
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? You not wanting to feel guilty about it makes you a selfish piece of shit. I'm surprised you would even care anyway because you instantly dropped your friend because he's gay.

So all we really need to know is that you're a selfish piece of shit overall.
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>>17182682
Which would you suggest then? KJB, NASB and ESV are the more literal translations. Everything else is pretty much shit. And I'm certainly not going to learn Hebrew and Aramaic; I'm not even Christian.
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>>17182708
the noab. you know, the ones scholars use.
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>>17182702
>not wanting someone to die means you dont want to feel guilty
I know that you are a piece of shit incapable of loving another human being who isnt your friend. But we arent all as worthless and selfish as you.
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Go visit him you fucking asshole
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>>17182014
>I'd jump at the chance to help
Why now though? To ease your rightfully guilty conscience?? As if. You'll offer to help then feel okay with yourself and abandon him again. Only this time he won't recover. Just stay away and live with your life tinged with regret.
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>>17182737
>To ease your rightfully guilty conscience
I have no guilt. I try not to act in a way Id regret later. I know its hard for you to understand that people killing themselves is wrong, but try a little to have some compassion.
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>>17182728
Projecting much? You don't give a fuck about this so called friend. You just don't want him to die. For what reason? You already gave up on him, so why the fuck do you even care? Tell us that? You're on the fucking internet asking for advice on the situation. You've told us all we need to know. You couldn't care less, but you don't want to feel any sort of semblance to being responsible for your friend potentially killing himself.

Again, where did I ever say anything about loving someone that isn't my friend? You love those memories, but then again, they're just "memories." So why don't you leave it in the past like you left your friend because of his sexuality? Again, your reading comprehension is fucking lacking.
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>>17182732
Part of me wants to and help. Bu then its like someone said earlier, how exactly would a conversation go.
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>>17182768
>You don't give a fuck about this so called friend. You just don't want him to die. For what reason?
aka you are a piece of shit because you cant fathom the concept that people dying is a bad thing unless you are their friend. You only care about yourself and your friends. You couldnt care less if someone you dont like dies.
Not all of us are as selfish and heartless as a piece of shit like you.
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>>17182774
What does it matter, if the ex-friend wants to die? OP didn't stick around when the ex-friend came out, so why would he come back now? He knows, deep down, that he's at the root of the issue. If he talks to the friend, the friend is still unhappy because of how OP abandoned him, and OP continues to remind him of how much he doesn't accept him, it's going to exacerbate the issues at hand.
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>>17182774
Okay kid, I'm done with you. Go help your friend or don't. You can't even answer a question without defensive back-peddling like a bitch. I care for plenty of people that aren't my friends, but I'm confident you're just projecting at this point. I hope you find some good in yourself, and maybe help your friend despite your differences.
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>>17182791
>you're just projecting
>[makes assumption that you only dont want people to die because youd feel bad]
kek thats pathetic.
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>>17182788
>why does it matter than someone is suicidal
heartless pieces of shit I swear.
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>>17182798
>kek
That's all I needed to hear. Enjoy being 8 years old.
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>>17182195

> Make thread insinuating that you are a big responsible in part for a friend's depression

> Gets buttmad when people call you out on it

gg
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>>17182803

> are a bigot*
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>>17182803
This anon gets it. Shut it down, boys.
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OP is either too embarrassed to decline the parents request or he knows he did wrong and doesn't want to feel guilty if his ex-friend kills himself.
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ITT jewish cucks
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OP doesn't want to help because he thinks he'll catch the gay. How's it feel to be a living piece of shit?
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>>17182817
lmao all this vitriol
no wonder trump is winning
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>>17182803
Im not mad. You can say Im responsible for a lot of it. But to say that I feel guilty is just your projection.
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>>17182014
> intolerant to friend's views and wonders why his friend is such a state of mind.
> gets butthurt when others are intolerant to him
Irony
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>>17182802
>graduate college at 8 years old
Do I get an award for that?
>>17182813
You know, maybe, just maybe, if someone comes to you, tells you that you could possibly stop someone you know from killing themselves, if you arent a complete heartless piece of shit you might consider it.
>>17182817
Im completely happy with myself. And Im definitely not worried of catching the gay. It contradicts too many fundamental beliefs I have to where if I were to even think I could catch it I would break down mentally.
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>>17182847
>being intolerant and telling someone to kill themselves are the same thing
kek. Im not butthurt. But its fun to point out the levels of hypocrisy internet warriors have.
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OP here, I'm going to go over to my friend's house and suck his cock.
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>>17182353
I don't know why you keep using the word support what the fuck does that mean. Acknowledging his existence? No one's making you March is the gay pride parade buddy, just cause he likes dick doesn't mean you can't be friends holy fuck. Would you never be friends with a lesbians just cause she eats carpets? Who cares. I really don't understand why your so butt blasted by him wanting to blast butts lol
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>>17182841
ok
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>>17182864
I never stated that it was equivalent. You came up with it yourself. Really tells what kind of state of mind your in. I'm not trying to act tough, your doing that.
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>>17182883
>just cause he likes dick doesn't mean you can't be friends
Yes it does actually. Being friends with an homosexual is accepting homosexuality and something the can coexist with you.
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>>17182889
>you should die
>Im not trying to act tough
You internet warriors are hilarious.
>I never stated that it was equivalent
You dont compare things that arent equivalent.
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>>17182901
>You dont compare things that arent equivalent
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>>17182930
>I dont know the difference between comparing and contrasting
retards everywhere
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>>17182014
Do not accept any comments from people saying that you abandoned a friend. He abandoned himself.

Talk to his parents and ask him to go for a walk, talk to him about things you two used to do. Show weakness, do not make your self seem too perfect since it could make him commit a suicide. Hear all the garbage he has to say, offer him some solution ("travel the world bullshit").

He needs to help himself, not much you can do. See this as a favor you are doing to his parents. Again show lot of your weaknesses to make it as if he is not the only one with problems.
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>>17182014
You're a shit friend. Stay away and hopefully he will get better. Dude, you suck though.
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>>17182150
You stopped being friends with him because he's gay. What's your problem?
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>>17182368
Then you're terrible, too.
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>>17182976
gays are gross, and a gay who feels the need to 'come out' is even worse

>>17182980
that's nice dear
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>>17182985
>gays are gross
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you're 12. Well, good luck with maturation, anon.
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>thread full of tumblr tots and redditors

Wew. Anyway OP, I wouldn't go if I were you. Best case scenario is you get a clingy druggy homo lusting after your dick.
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>>17182992
you're precious, lad
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>>17182014

You're just the worst, dude.
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>>17182996
>tfw only homophobes and pedos belong on 4chan
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>>17183008
>homophobes
no one here is scared of homosexuality
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>>17182976
Are you asking what my problem with gays are?
Or are you insinuating that I have a problem
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>>17183018
Answer the fucking question, pleb. You sound really fucking defensive when you answer a question with a question. Or are you just really unsure that you're just a gay like your best friend you grew up with? You know, spending time with gays makes you gay as well.

Thread over, OP is gay. His friend is gay. He's afraid that his friends will find out. It's okay gaynon, you can be honest with us.
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>>17182985

There's a reason that mass amount of gay hating is abundant in third world primitive countries and less so in the first world.
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>>17183030
There are two different possible questions. Youre so butthurt you cant even clarify, which is hilarious.
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>>17183037
>assuming I'm the same person you were talking to.
Let me put this in words that you can understand: TOP KEK
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>>17183034
because bigots go crazy and send death threats to innocent people who don't want to do terrible subversive acts like baking a gay wedding cake
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Bosting in an igre bread
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>>17182901
>don't compare things that aren't equivalent
You mean like comparing fags and serial rapists like you did in your first response you patheticly worthless subhuman?

What a disgusting animal you are.
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>>17183080
lmao this whole 'intolerant and violent towards intolerance' thing is top kekes
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>>17182014
Are you all Chinese?
friend and mutual friends and yourself
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>>17182864
>But its fun to point out the levels of hypocrisy internet warriors have.
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>>17183087
lmao this complete lack of counterpoint because you know you have absolutely zero defense top kekes

>I won't look like I'm butthurt to the point of suicide if I just keep shitposting right? This entire thread of my utterly futile self defense totally doesn't reveal how desperate I am for validation to keep from killing myself over how garbage of a non-human I am, right?
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>>17183137
you sounds super salty

yum yum feed me more of your tears lmoa
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>>17183080
Oh they are definitely comparable. Both are degenerate scum of the earth
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>>17183045
Never said you were top kek. But if you want an answer you need to properly ask a question thats not ambiguous.
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>>17182415
> Ive been on this chinese cartoon board since I was well underaged

so you've been here for a few weeks, big whoop
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>>17183176
If Im still underaged and graduated college Id be bragging about it.
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>>17183145
I don't have to say you're the most agonizingly suffering poster here, I can let this entire thread demonstrate that for me, I'm just posting to let you know that everyone is already completely aware of that, on that offchance you didn't realize yourself. I'd have to make, oh I don't know, 120 more posts to even approach your mountain of salt.
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>>17183209
>i-i'm not mad and spewing shit from my mouth hole, y-y-you are!

come on son, try some introspection in between sucking off your buttbuddies
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>>17183183
this post is so retarded that it makes the flat earth theory seem like a collection of insightful and irrefutable facts
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>>17183018
Both.
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>>17183294
pick one
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>>17182014

Well if you cut contact with someone for something they can't control and couldn't possibly harm you, you're probably going to hell, so you can spend the rest of eternity hanging with your old pal.
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>Well if you cut contact with someone for something they can't control and couldn't possibly harm you,
Hey Im a pedophile. I only rape 8 year old chinese women though. Its beyond my control since its just my sexual preference. Its not going to hurt you either. Youre not going to cut contact with me right.
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>>17183442

>Gay
>Rape

You started this thread just to bash guys didn't you, you sly ol dog?
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>>17183442

You seem to be unable to separate the concept of being gay from rape. Are you that afraid of a queer raping you?
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>>17183442

Well I'm glad you can admit to being a rapist, but I was talking about consensual homosexual relations.

Thanks for deflecting the issue though, your debate skills are top-notch :)
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>>17183465
i have consensual sex with your child don't leave me
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>>17183463
Whats the matter. Its something beyond my control. Youre not going to cut contact with me are you.
>>17183465
Why does it matter if its consensual. You just said it only needs to not harm you. Stop moving the goal post. Fallacy 101 baka.
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>>17182853
>if you arent a complete heartless piece of shit you might consider it.

We already established you were one when you abandoned him in the first place for arbitrary reasons.
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>>17183368
Both.
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>>17183481

Wow, you're actually retarded.
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>>17182161
>fucking pathetic

You filthy cuck, you came to us for help and advice. We're telling you the truth. You're a scumbag for not being there for him when he needed help.

If anybody here is fucking pathetic is you, for coming here thinking we're gonna justify your actions and calm your conscience.
>inb4 HUEHUE JOKES ON YOU YEH FILTHY PLEB I NEVER CAME HERE TO SEEK JUSTIFICATION OR COMFORT FOR MY ACTIONS

Then why are you denying the advice
we're giving you like a 12 year old? Quit being selfish, and consider that you're at least trying to save a live here.
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lmao fags and their fag hags are so histrionic

i feel like i'm watching the view or whatever
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>>17182014

Is homophobia still cool where you live? How quaint.
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>>17183505
>moves goal post and calls others retarded
kek
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>>17183509
>denying advice
I dont accept advice from butthurt internet warriors who are completely heartless and lack any capacity for empathy.
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>>17183518
you'll have to do better than that
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OP confirmed for being poor
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>>17183487
Noone has any obligation to support someone's "choice" to be a raging faggot. Op was honest with his friend and most importantly with himself at the time.

Fuck that guy op, you ditched him for a reason
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>>17183523

By posting shit like this you're just admitting that this was a troll thread intended to spark a debate about being gay (kindof a gay thing to do btw) instead of having any intention of getting advice about your "friend".
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>>17183526

>Choice

Oh boy, here we go again.
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>>17183529
i'm not op, kid
use your brain a bit instead virtue signalling your love of cock
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>>17183519

You don't get to cry about moving the goalposts while making a false equivalence.
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>>17183595
>false equivalence
Nothing false about it lol
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>>17183529
>terse response to a butthurt faggot trying to troll
>REEEE YOURE JUST HERE TO ARGUE
Not even him but you look so pathetic
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>>17182219
Morality has no basis for universal existence whatsoever in science or matematics. That is your morals are entirely social constructs.
You're unique because most people nowadays believe in equality for gays--possibly because they aren't religious. That's what you're seeing here.
>>
Talking to this guy won't make a difference. His basis for disliking gays is based on faith which is something you can't use logic and science to debate.
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>>17183968
>You're unique because most people nowadays believe in equality for gays--possibly because they aren't religious
Pulling shit out of your ass lol. The majority of the world is religious and hates gays. Dont let a vocal minority fool you.
>social construct
I dont think you understand what morals are.
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>>17184047
>I dont think you understand what morals are.
not him but all morals that don't come from God are worthless human trash and can be discarded at any time

that's really what social construct means
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>>17182014
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>>17182801
You're the one who ditched your lifelong 'friend' because he was gay. Now he wants to kill himself because of you, and all you care about is your own guilt and not him. Talk about being heartless.
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>>17184065
>morals are worthless
sure thing pal. I bet you need god to tell you whether or not to get out of bed in the morning.
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>>17184097
that's not a moral position you cumshitter
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>>17182841
You do feel guilty. That's the only reason why you don't want him to kill himself. You don't fucking care about him. If you did, you'd regret leaving him in the dust like that, but you don't.
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>>17182895
Don't talk to him ever again. Just hear yourself; what good will you do him when you still don't accept him?
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>>17184047
Im not really interested in keeping up this conversation because I've never found a way to talk faith out of a person.

All I'm saying is that as far as I can tell, morality is not some universal property of the universe like Newton's laws of physics are. They are things produced in our brains.
Personally I just can't come to believe that there exists laws which applies to humans, a particular configuration of molecules, but not every other configuration of molecules in the universe.

You believe in morals by faith. I get it. I use to too.
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>>17184096
>all you care about is your own guilt and not him
your projection is showing
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>>17184103
>the only reason why someone would care if someone was suicidal is if they felt guilty
man being heartless must really suck for you.
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>>17184268
He's being realistic, dawg.
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>>17184233
do yourself a favor and take a philosophy class or ethics class being this is some of the most pathetic philosophical constitute Ive ever seen.
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>>17182014
He's better off without you, anon. If you were really a friend you'd stay away from him.

People like you are more toxic than drugs.
Good luck with all of that I guess?
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>>17184274
Pretty sure you're just trying to push my buttons. You should give a legit response, because I believe it is a legit point to deny the existence of morality as something more than a human emotion based on how universal morality requires the universe paying particular attention to a specific arrangement of molecules.
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>>17184288
Nah its evident you dont know anything about science or philosophy.
Its kinda painful to read. do you know what specific arrangement of molecules creates life?
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>>17184295
I'm not sure what you're definition of life is, but I see no dividing line between when something should become alive or dead if you build it 1 molecule at a time.
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>>17184302
thats why its evident you know nothing about science lol. thats not how life works. Pretty sure you dont even know what a particle is.
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