Hey /adv/, My girlfriend is trans and is currently not receiving

>my boyfriend is trans, and we're both faggots in denial.

FTFY

>>>/lgbt/

>>17164476
Whoa. Haven't heard that one before.
>>17164478
Already posted there. Got the same reaction as first response.

>>17164480
If you like being called a faggot so much you should....

holy shit you should keep doing exactly what you're doing, I don't recommend any changes.

>>17164473

Probably b8, but man, if you think there's any real approximation between an actual vagina and the mangled inverted dickholes that M to F transfags get inserted in their crotches, I feel sorry for you.

>>17164502
Being passive aggressive and deflective of unoriginal comments? I had no intention to stop doing that, but thanks anyways, friend.

>>17164507
It really depends on the doctor you see. I've heard lots of people say they can't even tell the difference between a trans vagina and a real one.

Also, it's not really that important to me that she's a perfect woman, I just want her to be happy in her own skin.

>>17164511
>Being passive aggressive and deflective of unoriginal comments?


No, you should keep doing fag stuff like having dudes as your S/O, call them girls, and then ask 4chan for relationship advice.

If you want to get called a faggot in real life, just tell someone you meet in public the same story, it's an even more intense experience, ya huge faggot!

>>17164518
>I've heard lots of people say they can't even tell the difference between a trans vagina and a real one.

ohwaityou'reseriousletmelaughharder.jpg

>>17164526
Are you flirting with me now? I'm taken, Anon. I have a gay boyfriend that I like to have gay sex with over WoW eRP.
>>17164536
So I'm assuming you fuck a lot of trannies, then?

>>17164526
>>17164536
you guys are dicks. if he is happy, you should let him be, and offer him advice. no need to be so edgy and immature. seriously, grow up.

>>17164544
He is fine to be happy, he should just know that he is indeed a faggot. It's much healthier to stop denying reality.

ITT: children

OP I wish I knew anything to help you and your gf out but the only thing I can suggest is to try and track down some sort of information service over there. Honestly, tumblr has a lot or resource blogs and people willing to answer questions like this.

>>17164518
>I've heard lots of people say they can't even tell the difference between a trans vagina and a real one.
This is complete bullshit. Either you're lying or they are.

>>17164544
Because happiness is the only thing that matters, right?

>>17164542
Not him, and nothing against transsexuals, but I can't imagine that people can genuinely not tell the difference in terms of feeling. The inside of the vagina feels like the inside of your mouth. This isn't to speak ill of transsexuals. This is just a matter of the limits of what we can do medically.

As for your question in the OP, Canada being part of the commonwealth makes it easier for Canadians to immigrate to the UK if they have British grandparents, so likely there's something similar where British citizens can immigrate a little bit easier than others. But if she's not a Canadian citizen then she won't be covered by any free healthcare there, she'll just be a regular immigrant that had a few less hoops to jump through to become one.

NHS will foot the bill if she gets injured or something vacationing there, but I doubt they'd be willing to foot the bill for her transitioning there. They'd probably want to do anything nonurgent on their own terms. Likewise, travel insurance definitely wouldn't cover it. Travel insurance is cheap as fuck but if you want to cover something medical that's preexisting or the reason for travel and not just an accident that happened while you were there the cost shoots up dramatically and can even be hard to find travel insurance willing to accept it.

>>17164571
Thank you, I'll look into that.
>>17164578
>Because happiness is the only thing that matters, right?

Quite literally the ONLY thing that matters. You must be young as fuck.

Bet you haven't even met her

>>17164580
>Quite literally the ONLY thing that matters. You must be young as fuck.
The only people who say this are high school and college students, and you're accusing me of being young?
Bullshit.

>>17164584
So you're early 20s and never went to college I'm assuming?

>>17164582

prolly an online relationship

>>17164592
>OP says he lives in Canada
>implies his gf lives across the ocean

It's kind of obvious, don't you think?

>>17164587
Great job completely sidestepping what's been said.
I'm actually early 20s and finishing college, not that it actually has any impact on the accuracy of your claim that happiness is the only thing that matters

>>17164473
>She is a British citizen
If your GF is a native I'd recommending starting with dental surgery...

>>17164602
Apparently not.
>She is a British citizen and intends to go to England to study as well as do her transition
>intends to go to England to study
>go to
That implies she's not there at the moment.

>>17164602

If they haven't met they're not in a relationship

>>17164473
>she

This whole thread is bait.

>>17164605
You made a pitiful attempt at reading me and I deflected it by pointing out your own immaturity. Don't see how that's side-stepping really.

>>17164609
>Being a British citizen, are there any perks of privileges that come with that that would possibly enable her to come live here and study while keeping costs to a minimum?

Please, my dude. Apply yourself.

>>17164473
Look, I've fucked trannies and even I'm not dumb enough to think of them as a she, or woman, or GIRLfriend. I might humour them with a 'she' reference if they've managed to get as far as changing their gender on their drivers license. But this person you are with isn't even on hormone therapy yet, and therefore isn't even a trans person yet. You're dating a cross dresser at best dude...
>>17164536
I've been plenty intimate with actual born females with vaginas, and have thoroughly given an internal inspection on a post op tranny (with a lot of money to spend on good surgery) and it's amazing how close the surgeons can get it to the real thing. If I didn't have much experience with real vaginas I would probably be fooled.
Yes, there are differences, but you wouldn't notice without a strong base for comparison.

>>17164643
It's more mental than physical. If you woke up with a vag would you consider yourself a girl, or would you still feel like a dude?

>>17164643
>Look, I've fucked trannies and even I'm not dumb enough to think of them as a she, or woman, or GIRLfriend.

And you're well in your right to do that. I'm not telling you how to live your life or what to think, I'm just asking for advice. If she believes she's a woman, even if it's because of a mental disorder, then I'll address her as such and view her as such, regardless of biological sex.

>>17164473
OP is gay lolololololololololololololololololololololololololililololololololololololololol

>>17164879
Ha ha ha, top Kek!

I would love to see your 12yr old ass in a biology class where the word "penis" is used. Cuz you'll probably be there giggling like the school girl that you are.

>>17164991

at least he'd be a real school girl

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>>17164473
>My girlfriend is trans

>>17165002
Nope he would be just as much as a man as OP's "girl"friend.

This is some hilarious shit.
Op you must be an unbelievably desperate loser.
Get help

>>17164476
>>17164480
>>17164473

He IS right though with

>my boyfriend is trans, and we're both faggots in denial.

and you know it.


cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7NYWd7p-zE

>>17164518
>I've heard lots of people say they can't even tell the difference between a trans vagina and a real one.

Then they are stupid af. The cheaper solution for trans vags are basically open wounds that are always in danger of growing close and have to be re-opened once in a while. And you can tell.

Of course if (s)he gets a high end solution that she wastes 150 000 - 500 000 $ on, you won't be able to tell on first glance. But who of the normal transfolk do that? most people don't shit money

>>17164518
>I've heard lots of people say they can't even tell the difference between a trans vagina and a real one.
Who are these "lots of people?". Are they by any chance chasers?

>>17165110
>I have never seen a trans vagina or had sex with a trans person before in my life but my opinion is still valid
And where the fuck are you getting that $150k - $500k number from? Clearly you have no clue what you're even talking about. Move along now, summerfag.
>>17165086
>>17164476
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>>17165075
Pretty sure I made my point clear that we acknowledge her biological sex, but there's clearly something deeper behind "just wanting" to be female. The question of what defines sex is an epistemological one because of the fact not everyone is born with XY or XX chromosomes.
How do you classify the sex of an intersex individual? What about physically female people with XY chromosomes? If you can't answer those questions with absolute scientific certainty then you're basically just arguing from your own standpoint and opinion and I just really don't feel like arguing with inflammatory fuckfaces that come here to argue for the sake of arguing when the thread is clearly not in any way about that at all.

I came here asking for advice on transitioning and how to make it easier for someone I care about. I didn't come here asking for your near-sighted opinions on something irrelevant, like if she's a real woman or not.

Now piss off.

>>17164473
> English trans
> Canada trans

stop it, it hurts

Suicide is the answer.

Do it together like Romeo.. and Romeo

Fucking faggots.

>>17164822
>If you woke up with a vag would you consider yourself a girl, or would you still feel like a dude?
I'd imagine I'd be feeling extremely emotional and wouldn't call myself by either gender.. Nor would I ask others to conform to my emotions.
I mean heck.. I don't even like to label myself via nationality or sexuality or BDSM preference... And I'm just a normal guy...

>>17164830
>If she believes she's a woman, even if it's because of a mental disorder, then I'll address her as such and view her as such, regardless of biological sex.
But don't you think THAT is sidestepping the real issue? Like why does this person have a gender identity issue in the first place?
You know... Most people who go through the transition still aren't happy with themselves, and that's why suicide rates are high..
If you really wanted to help this person.. You would try to steer them clear of a path that will likely lead to more inner turmoil.

Lol. You're gay and fucking a man

Hey OP, if you're still around.

One option is self-medding in the UK; just order the meds online: http://qhi.co.uk

I'm a tranny who moved from the US to Canada and went to school. It's pretty easy to get in on a student visa, and it should be even easier for someone in the Commonwealth. Uni here is about ~$8000CAD a year, ignoring living expenses, although it depends on uni too. I don't know of any benefits or perks to make it easier, but looking into stuff surrounding the Commonwealth might be a good start if you haven't already.

If she moves here, coverage is decent, but it's hard to find a doctor who will actually want to work with you unless you're ALREADY transitioning (and she's not); otherwise, the wait will probably be just as long as in the UK.

> I just want her to be happy in her own skin.

Yeah...you might want to think about what life is gonna be like after surgical mutilation happens and - surprise - happiness still doesn't happen.

>>17164822
>It's more mental than physical.
I'm seeing hypocrisy here..
If it's more mental than physical then why is a drastic (and usually) irreversible physical option being considered?
Did you also consider electro shock therapy?

>>17164822
I'd wonder how I had concrete, solid memories of years of being male.

It doesn't matter what you feel like you are today. You are what you are and that's it, you dolt.

This whole thread IS bait.

Calling someone "trans" before they're even at that phase. Fuck, am I a doctor, even though I have no degree and never went to college, just because I say I'm a doctor?

How is this even an argument? It's like trying to fight with a child about his imaginary friend not existing.

>>17166315
They consider changing themselves physically in order to be more comfortable. If you woke up one day with a vag and boobs, wouldn't you consider surgery? In your head, you'll see yourself as a dude, but when you look in the mirror it's a different story. Everyone would see you as a girl, even though you feel as if you're not. You'd be uncomfortabl in your own skin.

And some trans people don't have surgery because they just don't want to . Doesn't change the fact that they feel different.

>>17166390
What you feel does matter. Physicality is not the only thing that matters here.

And you have to get a degree to be a doctor. You don't have to pass a 'male mentality ' test when you're born. Gender is more mental than it is anything. What gender would you consider yourself if you had your reproductive organs removed, and had gotten estrogen? If it were gradual like that, would you still consider yourself male? If you only had your reproductive organs removed, would you suddenly consider yourself androgynous?

>>17166408
>and had gotten estrogen
Of course I would feel like a fucking woman, than. That's what it does. Holy shit. Your boyfriend probably just has low testosterone and that's why he thinks he's a girl on the inside. Yet again, it wouldn't matter what I, or anyone else, "considers" themselves.

Consider me a dinosaur, since a doctor needing a degree to me a doctor or a male needing a penis/ y chromosome to be male "doesn't count" to you. Am I now one because I say so, or can get some other person to agree with me?

A better question is why do you think gender is a gray area? What would you consider me if I was tall, muscular, square chinned, with short hair, facial and body hair, a deep voice, and called my dick a male vagina?

>>17166393
>If you woke up one day with a vag and boobs, wouldn't you consider surgery?
No. Why the fuck would I consider surgery? If that happened to me, I'd try to come to terms with the way I feel and just accept it. Easier said than done, but it's the healthiest and best option.
>In your head, you'll see yourself as a dude, but when you look in the mirror it's a different story.
I have suffered from identity issues for as long as I can remember. When I look in the mirror (especially in public) I'm usually shocked and look away quickly because I don't see myself. It's not a gender thing, but still, I've never felt comfortable in my own skin. I don't FEEL the way I look. Like I had a past life or something -- and I've never seriously considered any type of surgery, never wanted a peircing, never harmed myself. Lived a good life. Then my daughter and mother in law were fucking murdered, and my wife was left maimed, then she left me. Do you know what that does to someone's sense of purpose in life? It kills it. One minute you're living your life for your family and the next minute they're dead or gone. What the fuck is a father without a child, or a husband without a wife? On top of that, I have the most fucked up given name a parent could choose before moving their kid to a western country. Never changed my name. Just fucking dealt with it and accepted it.
I learnt to make the most of what I was given, or born with, or grew up with, or experienced, because I sure as shit know that there are billions of people on this planet worse off than me, and from that perspective I've got it good.

I'm fucking sick of cunts not dealing with perfect health and high living standards and expecting that the world should cradle them in their change cause they deserve. They don't deserve dick.

All your friend needs is a change of perspective and they will accept how they feel and how they look. Even if those things are not traditionally accepted combinations in society.

>person reads book
>person gains knowledge
>person attempts to share knowledge
>arse no read/ can't read/ doesn't understand read
>arse say reading bad

I really don't get this shit. When you're born, you tell the world what your sex is with your body, not the other way around. Why don't you go fight about how number's don't exist and how value is a social construct. Money doesn't exist, its a social construct. All of these physical things, including my hands if I were to slap you with them, don't exist. They're just fabrications of your mind, man.

>matter doesn't matter

Lol ok

>>17166472
I know huh?
There's a whole bunch of people who are like:

>We don't conform to strict traditional standards.
>We wish society would relax about people who don't corform to strict traditional standards.
>Now we want you to accept us as we attempt to conform to strict traditional standards.

>England is known for having retarded wait times for trans patients
The NHS, England's health care system, is known for having retarded wait times for EVERY patient, not just trans patient. I fucking don't understand this bullshit whining amongst trans people who are often the world's most privileged whitest little shits. Also, 3-6 months isn't that retarded for your privileged little shithead of a trans girlfriend who ALREADY isn't receiving hormones or is scheduled to.

Gender minorities in actual third world countries don't even have wait times for doctors they could bitch about because they have no doctors to go to, natch.

>how much do private clinics usually cost
It is approximately $90 USD initial $60 USD follow up to see a GP, approximately $300 USD initial and $100 USD follow-up to see a specialist, and I would expect that the actual hormones and other associated expenses are still picked up by the NHS subsidy and she will pay the subsidised rates.

>Do British citizens have perks in Canada
Aside from visa requirements, I don't think British citizens hold any particular perks. I believe Canada requires permanent residency at the very least to be registered in their health care system. Of course, being a British citizen may mean that said process to obtaining permanent residency may be fast-tracked.

If you are thinking of marrying your trans girlfriend or registering her as a long term spouse just so she could get permanent residency easier, DON'T. She honestly sounds like an overly privileged little shit with a victim complex.