Is it bad to have had sex with 20+ plus guys at the age of 23?

20+ in 2 years?

>implying you're not a slut

>>17158214
Most girls have way more sex with me, just with the same person

>>17158213
Not necessarily, as long as you are safe about it.
But some people won't like your life choices and won't want to date you.

define 'bad'. if you are asking if people would look down on you for it, yes they would. that being said, no one needs to know you sleep wtih less than one dude a month.

frankly i dont get how straights deal with this. i remember i once had sex with 3 different guys a week for 1 year straight.

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>>17158219
>just with the same person

that's why they're not sluts.

>>17158230
So how can I be too sexual (ie slutty) if I only have sex occasionally

>>17158238
being too sexual does not equal being a slut.

fucking 20 different guys in 2 years is viewed as being a slut.

I'm not saying it's inheretly a bad thing, but you definetly fall under what 90% of the population would consider a slut.

sluts are so different in definition from person to person.

my opinion of a slut is someone who will have sex with someone who is lower quality then them very consistently simply because they want pleasure.

>>17158213

You're lucky to be in the age of beta-males and cucks who would be willing to get with a cock carousel rider.

Men with dignity will hear that number and dip out.

>>17158260
Lol as if guys ever wanted to date me in the first place. Why do you think I was a virgin for so long?

>I want to lose it to a guy who cares about me desu

Got tired of waiting for a bf at 21.

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>>17158213
It's not your dad's fault.

>>17158264
>tired of waiting for a bf
>having sex with 20 guys

if I were dating you and heard that i would run away fast and warn every guy i knew not to come near your ass

>>17158272
I gave up waiting for a bf at age 21, keep up.

No one wanted to date me even when I was a virgin.

>>17158264
>be me
>no girl asks me out, even though 27
>tired of waiting for gf
>choose to lose sex to prostitute when even club girls wont fuck me
and some guys wait for even longer, because either
a) they don't have the cash
b) they have good morals

Would you feel better about yourself if you had the same amount of sex except with 2-3 persons instead of 20+? Would you feel worse if the number was 40+? If yes, what negative behavior about yourself can potentially explain why you feel bad about having many partners? For example if you identify the problem as a constant need for attention then perhaps you desire to work on your constant need for attention. Having sex with many partners is not necessarily wrong but having a constant need for attention is bad for your personal development. Identify the real source of the problem and try to work on it.

>>17158275
you don't 'wait' for a bf.

just leave allready

>is it bad to have had sex with a bunch of guys?
Not necessarily.
>is it bad to have had sex with a bunch of guys without ever having a boyfriend?
Yes. You've removed all the intimacy out of the most intimate thing you can do if you ever do have an actual relationship. You've reduced yourself to just a hole with legs.

>>17158285
>Yes. You've removed all the intimacy out of the most intimate thing you can do if you ever do have an actual relationship. You've reduced yourself to just a hole with legs.

If I could have had a boyfriend I would have. But I've never been able to get one, all the guys I liked never liked me back and I didn't get asked out

I kept having sex to make up for lack of intimacy but it never helped

>>17158285
this guy
>>17158279
here, I can vouch for this - its difficult now to have a normal relationship once you start off with sex only.

>>17158284
What do you 'do' then

>>17158293
and what stops you from asking a guy out?

>>17158285
For the sake of gender equality, do you also consider that guy that fucks 20+ women has reduced himself to a penis with legs? What about masturbation? Does masturbating to cheap porn fantasies means that you remove all the intimacy out of the most intimate thing you can do?

>>17158300
When did I say I've never asked a guy out?

>>17158306
>I gave up waiting for a bf at age 21
>waiting
Perhaps you didn't know, perhaps you're just retarded, but waiting is passive.

>>17158293
>all the guys I liked never liked me back and I didn't get asked out
Did you ask them or did you just think this was their opinion of you?

If it was, then I guarantee there are also guys that love you, that just are too shy to ask you out. Most guys, no matter how confident, have a fear of rejection, so this is why a lot of guys don't ask anyone out - even the most "alpha" (cringe term) guys still have fears (although not as much).

That's disgusting. I would never date someone who has fucked so many guys.

>>17158296
you get out there, you join a dating site, you start flirting with people, you ask them out instead of waiting around. a bf/gf doesn't randomly show up at your doorstep.

stop acting like an autistic retard who's just trying to remove any responsibility from herself and just spreads her legs for random guys then wonders why she can't get a bf.

>>17158311
would you then fuck a guy who has fucked that many girls?

>>17158309
Well I wasn't passive. I asked guys out, but I meant that I waiting until I got a boyfriend to lose my virginity, but it just never happened no matter what I did

>>17158310
Interesting how they're not scared to ask out every other girl but me.

>>17158301
Don't be daft with that gender equality nonsense. You know very well that there is a basic, evolutionary difference between male and female sexual behavior.

>>17158312
None of that fucking works

>>17158317
So you had multiple boyfriends but you didn't lose your virginity to any of them?

>>17158293
>I kept having sex to make up for lack of intimacy but it never helped
In other words, you are unable to seduce a man emotionally. You have difficulties maintaining a fun and pleasant personality that creates in an interest in long term contact. You have focused on pursuing sexual relationships in order to mask this growing problem in the development of your interpersonal relationships. Why do you ask us if having sex with many partners is a bad when THIS is clearly the problem you should be working on.

>>17158326
No, I've never had a boyfriend, I failed to get a boyfriend so I gave up on the idea of losing my virginity to a boyfriend as it was never going to happen

>>17158317
Bullshit.

So every guy you have met has deliberately ignored you in favour of other girls. Do you monitor their every move? Prove that EVERY guy has asked other girls before u - I was 27 and that was the first time I ever asked a girl out, and she said no - asked one girl out since then, she also said no.

You know even the best guys ASSUME that you have to ask at LEAST 100 girls before getting ONE yes. With these sorts of statistics, why would any guy even bother trying with girls.

Unless you can PROVE this, as a guy, i KNOW its bullshit.

>>17158323
Spoken like a true penis with legs.

>>17158337
So you thought it was a good idea to start having sex with random people on a general basis instead of putting that effort into searching for the boyfriend you wanted?

>>17158336
> THIS is clearly the problem you should be working on

I wouldn't know how to work on this problem. I try my best to be nice and entertaining company but there's not much else I can do.

At least I'm not creepy like when I was a teenager and I would do so many unasked for favours for a guy I liked. Yeesh, I cringe so hard thinking back to that

>>17158344
The ad hominem trying to work its magic.

>>17158344
>science is scary and makes me feel bad

>>17158339
You're making an unverifiable claim, mate.

I can neither disprove or prove your claim that a guy has liked me without showing any detectable sign.

It's equivalent to Carl Sagan's dragon in your garage.

Therefore your claim is nonsensical and redundant.

>>17158357
>You're making an unverifiable claim, mate.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/201104/why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates
>unverifiable
>but scientifically supported by studies

>>17158357
Look, you only need to look at the majority of /adv/ to see that a lot of guys like girls and are too scared to ask them out.

If what you are currently doing is working for you in getting a boyfriend, then by all means, keep doing it. If not, then to change your results you have to change how you do things.

I gave you my experience, and what I know from talking and listening to others - rejection is a powerful barrier from asking anybody out. Just look on the internet ffs. There are PLENTY of people who are into late 20's and even early 30's who find it hard to ask girls out.

It makes me think that you are like the majority of posters on /adv/ who want people to give answers to them, but have no intention on following their adv, which makes me sad.

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So no guy wanted to fuck you until you were 21.

Okay, I've got that much.

And now you fuck guys all the time?

Okay here's where I'm having trouble understanding: if guys didn't want you before, why do they want you now?

>>17158346
>I wouldn't know how to work on this problem.
Simple. You work hard on being funny, interesting, positive, confident, exciting, communicative, successful, inspiring, understanding, non-judgmental and then, last of all, sexually compatible. That's how seduction works for anyone. If you like the idea of an attractive boy who walks to you, gives you attention, makes you laugh, makes you feel better about yourself and brighten your day then do it yourself. Become the attractive girl who walks towards a boy, gives him attention, makes him laugh and makes him feel better about his day. Start by learning how to be friend with a boy. You can't learn how relationship works without learning how friendship works.

There is also a possibility that you like to be on the receiving end of seduction but don't have any interest in learning how to give it back. In which case you are not emotionally ready for a relationship. Once you develop a taste for improving yourself and giving attention to others then you will be one step closer to a relationship.

>>17158399
No guy wanted to date her seriously, back when she was waiting to lose her virginity to a boyfriend. She probably could've banged guys without getting a relationship way earlier, but she was holding out for a serious relationship until 21

This thread is filled with penis with legs who have ruined themselves for relationships.

>girl doesn't get a bf
>gets bitter and frustrated
>goes around having lots of dirty no-strings-attached sex

>guy doesn't get a gf
>gets bitter and frustrated
>

>>17158414
what's your point?

>>17158418
He is saying that the third option is rarely open to most guys - sex is not available as readily to guys as it is to girls.

>>17158427
Boys have strong sexual urges that are hard to satisfy. Girls have strong emotional needs that are hard to satisfy. Life isn't fair.

>>17158427
>sex is not available as readily to guys as it is to girls.

okay. what about it?

>>17158418
You're still bitter and frustrated but now you've lost your dignity too.

>>17158444
I used to believe this too, but its not like that.
SOME boys and girls have strong sexual urges that are hard to satisfy (why do you think the word nympho exists), and SOME boys and girls have emotional needs to satisfy (a lot of creative types are like this for guys)

Stop thinking in black and white terms. It doesn't help.

Please make a new thread titled "Seeking advice on how to emotionally seduce a man". This is your actual problem. Having fucked several partners is an irrelevant symptom. You could be a virgin and still have this problem. Improve your personality and learn how to forge emotional bonds.

>>17158403
>>17158454

But I've TRIED. I've tried to be those things, I just don't know what else to do

Is there a book or guide or something that will help me become a dateable girl?

>>17158453
Alright.

Boys are statistically likely to have strong sexual urges that are hard to satisfy. Girls have statistically likely to have strong emotional needs that are hard to satisfy. Life isn't fair. I officially disown the claim that every human being are encoded with the exact same neurological patterns, a claim which I was clearly making and which couldn't possibly misinterpreted due to excessive nitpicking of semantics and I thank the gods that >>17158453 has shown me the errors of my way. You go buddy.

Ayy u nasty girl
Hmu

I'm a 23 year old guy who is in the 20+ for women he's slept with, including the past two years with just one woman, and looking back at when I was getting around, you're damn right I was a slut.

Does that make me a slut today? No, was I a slut then? Absolutely. If you're in the army, you're a soldier. If you're sleeping with a bunch of different people, you're a slut. It's pretty simple for me. Does that make you a slut all the time? Maybe, if you are just always sleeping around, and not giving a fuck, yeah I'd think you were a slut then too. But, I assume eventually you'll settle down, and live a normal life and your past will just be your past.

>>17158467
>Is there a book or guide or something that will help me become a dateable girl?
Sure. Every single book on seduction will do. All of them will tell you the same things in slightly different ways. They'll tell you to try harder to be funny, interesting, positive, confident, exciting, communicative, successful, inspiring, understanding, non-judgmental and then, last of all, sexually compatible.
>>But I've TRIED.
Try harder. Do you know how to make friends? Start by learning how to make friends.

>>17158503
I've made friends

You're not giving me the steps you're just telling me to become x y x, I'm telling you I don't know how and what I've been trying hasn't been working

>>17158515
It's self-improvement. The steps can be whatever you want. You set a goal and then you try to reach that goal. For example you want to work on being less shy? Try talking to one stranger every day, for example during a class or at the supermarket or a parc. You feel like you're too often in a negative mood? Set yourself the goal of doing 15 minutes of meditation per day to relax. You feel like you have a passive lifestyle where you don't get out often? Set yourself the goal of doing 10 minutes of jogging per day. And so forth. Every problem of self-improvement needs to be approached individually. If you are a physically active person who is often in a good mood and who is not shy about socializing then you will statistically improve your odds of gaining friends and partners. You can do it. I believe in you.

>>17158557
I have a social life and friends, and I'm not negative 24/7, I usually keep my bitterness to myself

I don't know what to fucking do

>>17158576
>I have a social life and friends, and I'm not negative 24/7, I usually keep my bitterness to myself
You're posting on 4chan.
You can't be more wrong than you've already stated.

>>17158344
HAH! It's funny how hypocritical these idiots are, I agree with you, the only difference between people in general is genetics (small difference, not enough to matter) and upbringing, so nature and nurture. I believe nurture to be more crucial to relationships and decisions while nurture to general health.

Some current year stuff going on in this thread.

>>17158576
Talk to a cute boy, smile, compliment him, make him laugh, have fun together and ask him out on a date. Enjoy yourself at the date and make sure he also enjoys himself. Have mutually pleasant sex if desired. Repeat with more dates. Increase the amount of time you spend together. Wait an undetermined period of time to confirm whether you enjoy it in the long term. If you confirm that you have compatible interests and you really like each other then you can discuss things together and consider calling it a relationship officially.

>>17158293
>>17158285
don't worry too much, I used to have some meaningless sex and now I'm in a committed relationship - it might feel weird at first to combine sex with affection, but I think that's what we are predisposed to as humans so just ask out a nice guy and you may end up having great loving sex :)

>>17158474
where are you taking these statistics from?

not criticising you, but I literally never saw a reliable study on this

Every time I see one of these threads I just laugh at how it confirms all of /r9k/'s worldview. Visit any board on this site and you will regularly see men saying that they are 25, 27, 32 year old virgins.

Look at the front page of /adv/ and you will see girls going on about their boyfriends or the 20 guys they fucked because they were sick of being virgins at 20.

I wouldn't trust anyone in either gender who's hitting up a dozen sex partners in a year. I don't have any problem with sex and if someone went through that phase without long term issues like, 10 years ago, whatever, but if it's a recent thing then there's a lot of red flags.

That kind of behavior, whether you're a man or a woman, straight or gay is indicative of a lack of stability, education and personal respects. Not as a rule or anything, but I'll take my odds.

>>17158595
I know, right? It is totally hypocritical to acknowledge differences between men and women. As an enlightened, progressive, independent, self-thinking champion of equality, I think everyone is the same.

>>17158213
well depends because fuckboys will like you because you are easy and guys who want a serious relationship will avoid you like the plague.

>>17158727
>As an enlightened, progressive, independent, self-thinking champion of equality, I think everyone is the same.

Ha, can a sentence be anymore of a contradicition. This has to be ironic.

See it like this: why should I hire someone who has done nothing but Job hopping for the last couple of years for a long term position?

>>17158772
Look at it this way: Why would someone who was holding out for a long term position continue to starve instead of taking the temp jobs that are available?

>>17158672
Men statistically consume more products related to sexual satisfaction. Women statistically consume more products related to emotional satisfaction. The conclusion is self-evident. If men consumed more romance and women consumed more pornography then I would make the opposite claim, but I cannot. The statistical bias of interest from two target demographics is undeniable. You can create test groups and make them fill surveys that ask questions like "do you like sex" or "do you like romance" and then compare results but it would be a massive waste of time and I am sure it has already been done ad nauseum.

>>17158777
Because there are is such a thing as "geographically bound unemployment". Aka move somewhere else to get a long term job. Or get a college degree and get more employable for long term jobs aka improve yourself.

>>17158777
That still doesn't answer that guys analogy. Because he is the employer and he doesn't care. He will want to hire a trustworthy employee anyway.

>>17158790
I improved myself as much as I could and moved a few times, still no luck getting a long term position. Why did I have to continue to starve?

Do you know what 10 years of loneliness and sexual frustration are like when your hormones are raging? It's fucking hell

>>17158792
But it addresses the implication that I'm not a trustworthy person. Because I am, I just have mitigating circumstances.

>>17158796
Oh yeah, I am a guy in his twenties who is still a kv. I know exactly what you mean. Females have it easier though. You just decided to get laid, I can't do that.

>>17158810
>what is a prostitute

>>17158822
1. No. Disgusting.
2. Paying for sex is something you females don't have to do. Hell you even get a free breakfast and place to sleep most of the time.

Stop crying.

>>17158831
I would rather be big and strong than get free breakfast

Pros and cons innit

>want bf
>suck a million dicks in the span of 3 years
>Every guys in town by now knows you are basically a blow job drive-through
>Wonder why guys do look at you like a five star restaurant

OP is probably trolling, but for women out there, consider yourself a business.

Fancy business have less clientele at higher cost, this makes the business more specialized and valuable. Other businesses such as, McDonald for instance, can be used by any dreg from the street, sometimes even a high class customer, but like the employees of McDonalds, no one want to stay in a McDonalds. You go in, you get you cock sucked by some Chicken Nuggets, and leave. McDonalds is dirty and there is a higher concentration of people with herpes hanging around it.

>>17158293
did you at least made the effort? do you take care of your appearance and make yourself a pleasant person to be around? guys are not as picky and you have it very easy I don't understand how you would fail at getting a bf even ugly chicks can still get boyfriends.