Smut: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bnGqZyDNVtFLpjsDaEOhXyhByMlNLXoOnLF9e9iIc2o/edit
Quest: http://tgchan.org/wiki/Enemy_Quest
Meandraco's game blog: http://teraurge.blogspot.fi/
To the anon that wanted to draw Jujehyu smut, would there be any possibility of a skimpy-ass outfit like this? https://e621.net/post/show/958207 I'm pretty thirsty for some xeno undertiddy right now. If not, then that's fine.
>>832133
Wraith is best xeno girl
Because of the horrendous lack of Sword of the Stars porn, I'm wondering if anybody would be willing to draw smut of the Hiver Queen Radiant Frost?
I'm always disappointed by the lack of turians in mass effect threads. Maybe they're just too alien-looking for waifufags?
More alien milfs.
Alternatively, alien sluts are also welcome.
>>832007
Can do.
>>832626
Mass A-Fags are too normie to understand the value of the turians. Hell I'd fuck the shit out of one... that and a krogan bitch...
>>832678
These threads seem to go more for utterly inhuman aliens, but here's a martian who will do anything for pizza bagels.
>>832626
well... they kinda look like a cross between cats and crabs... there is the one guy who has pumped out a lot of art of them, though. he even has a qt OC who is into 90's punk rock
>>832835
Sounds like a good catch. Where do I sign up?
>>832815
>too normie to understand the value of the turians
Don't kinkshame senpai.
But seriously, I would have liked it if the asari looked a little more alien. I'm fine with how they did the all-female sexy space babe thing, but the fact that they look exactly like humans with weird head things is... eh. Maybe it'd be better if the head things were longer and floppier like a bunch of tentacles; that would've been more attractive while still being exotic and alien.
Every gentleman of taste knows the true superior waifu race.
BIG
PLUMP
QUARIAN
RUMP
>>833063
As long as they leave the suits on
>>832282
I'd love to see some good Predator/Yautja femdom shit...
>>832626
>>833395
>tender and loving human x xeno
This my fetish.
>>832133
>>832148
a gift from Robot thread
>>834373
>>833395
~C-cute~
>>833621
A gift we gladly accept ;)
I find it criminal how little porn there is (Read: None) of Zagara.
Not only is she mother of the brood, but she's adorable as fuck. She's curious about so many things, and is close to giddy when she learns. In the new book, she's apparently brokering peace between the 'new zerg' and humanity as well. I can just imaging her living with humans, fascinated by the bizarre things that we tend to say and do.
I can imagine her suprise, when learning of human mating customs... and her extreme pleasure when she claims a human as a lifemate. So many discoveries for her to make...
>>835448
Agreed, I want porn of her mating with humans. I just love the idea of becoming a favored (or only) mate of some alien "Queen" and expanding her brood through larges amounts of sex.
>>835448
Hell, zerg queens in general seem to have been almost completely forgotten by porn-makers. Especially given SC2's popularity.
Which is a damn shame since they're the most prominently female zerg to date since Kerrigan, aside from Izsha who isn't a playable unit in any part of the game(s).
Yeah, I can imagine her intrigue when she discovers how humans mate not just to reproduce but to enjoy each other physically and how it's considered a very pleasant act.
>>835532
I have the exact same kind of fantasy, although usually about a xenomorph queen.
A huge, freaky-looking alien happily milking you dry regularly for the sake of being fertilized and spawning more offspring...
>>835532
>>836076
It's also a more nefarious way to take over when you think about it
>the threat of death is replaces with promise of pleasure
>people would hesitate to rat out something that gives them pleasure and help hide them
>human style reproduction means no host that has to die and can breed more
>they offer protection and pleasure so it'd be easier to get humans to side with them
it's pretty much the carrot vs the stick situation
>>832360
So THAT'S where hive queen quest got those pictures.
>>832626
They're a surprisingly small part of the games.
Krogans are supposedly the ones with super rare females, but besides Nyreen you only see one for a few seconds during a bar scene with Garrus while Krogans get missions and whatnot involving their females.
>>836084
I like your point. Once the initial shock and dread subsides and the orgasms roll in, at least some people would reconsider what might be best for them.
Turns out that the current semester is daunting as fuck, and I've only had a taste of the first two classes so far.
Not to worry, I've gotten an idea for my own twist on tower girls. I'll see if I can write some shit down on the bus or train to school or some shit.
Would you?
>>836186
No.
>>836439
>>836445
>>836457
>>836462
>>832626
I'm a huge fan of Turian stuff. The majoring of that shit is mainly gay though, so I steer clear of it.
>>836186
Fuck no.
>>831817
Did someone say xenos? I came as quickly as I could?
>>836551
You're late, man. Thread is dead.
>>836551
All the filthy Xeno lovers have left for today Brother Captain. Perhaps you should stand vigil and await for them to return tommorow?
>>836572
and get a new joke instead of repeating the same exact one every single time
Got any xenos on human women stuff?
>>836648
>>836653
>>836656
>>836659
>>836663
>>836667
>>836668
>>836670
>>836674
>>836676
>>836679
>>836681
>>836682
>>836686
>>836688
I'll take that as a "yes". Very nice.
>>836691
And I think that'll do for now, or at least for what I have the patience to delve my folders for.
>>836935
>tfw no large sangheili waifu to snuggle into and protect you
>>837185
We at least have official art of a female now
>>837300
>female sangheili look pretty much like the males
>except more upright rather than hunched over
>and with nice round xeno butts
I approve of this plot development.
>>836146
>my own twist on tower girls
Aw yiss could always go for more towergirls.
i wish for more stellaris pictures.
>>837300
They look a bit too thin to me. Or maybe it's just because in the porn, they are always thicc. Still, they're so thin that they don't look like the same species to me.
>>837568
If it helps, keep in mind that the female is missing armor plates for her arm and looks to be wearing a more form-fitting / thin plate of armor across her torso than normal. Furthermore, the only real high definition view we see of an Elite comes from the Mark of Shame scene in Halo 2's remaster, and considering the Arbiter doesn't look quite as swole / thick as the typical fan art / porn Sangheili either…
I'm not saying Sangheili are deceptively waifish when stripped of their armor, but there does appear to be a pattern.
Does this count as a Xeno?
According to the info, it's an interdimensional being that's neither human nor Pokemon
>>837661
True. I suppose I've just always thought that their armor is only a bunch of thin sheets with a large body underneath.
2/8
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8/8
>>837300
>official
>343
Everything produced by 343 is non-canon.
>>837695
Yeah, I'm not much different myself. It took me the longest time to realize that, in most of the games / cutscenes, the gray on their biceps was armor and not exposed hide. Makes a bit more sense in hindsight, but for a while my mental image was huge swole aliens instead of tall toned / wiry ones.
can y'all /d/generates please keep it in one thread?
>>>819564
>>837884
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8
>>837759
To be fair, the bodysuit was almost impossible to distinguish in the early games. I only really caught it when I had a good luck at the Heretic, as the bodysuit ends just slightly below his head.
Would you hug?
Is there any porn content for the new MoO game?
>>839083
That is just a fucking Quarian
>>839081
Nope
Only found this and that is old MoO
>>839083
>>839714
Superficially it looks like it, but at a more careful examination the body structure seems more ailen than the quarians (The back for example).
Of course, I find it hard to belive they would be anything like quarians under the mask...
>>840429
Their hands, legs and feet are also different.
>>837734
this.
>tfw even if they make actual Halo games again they'll still use that dogshit Reach-divergent art style
>tfw elites will always look like 50-year-old leather couches
>tfw halo will never be great again
Looks like Endless Space 2 is going to have some potential.
http://www.pcgamer.com/endless-space-2-takes-endless-legends-quests-and-varied-factions-to-the-stars/
>>841276
attempt.
>>841624
Wait... aren't you in the spooky waifu thread?
Good news, everyone!
I've thrown together some textures in Substance Painter, and now Jujehyu have higher detail in their spandex.
>pic related, Unreal Engine makes their armor all shiny and chrome
>>841934
And a quick lewdpost because I'm burned out from working on a bunch of modelling/texturing stuff all week.
>>841936
>>841938
>>841940
Oh yeah, and I've increased her bust and booty size, if it wasn't immediately visible..
>>841751
yes.
>>841936
This looks better than a bunch of actual Xeno games out there
Tell me there's gonna be more
>>841946
I'm only getting started, senpai. This is just one model out of many, I just need to finish the meshes and rig them.
>>841943
Big squishy squeezy titties =3
What does she look like under the suit?
>>841276
>Those huge tits
My dick
>>842016
Soft and fluffy.
Apologies for the quality, it's still an old, rough mesh and rig.
>>842023
Those breeding hips sweet mercy
>>841934
>>841936
>>841938
>>841940
>>841943
Aw shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Is there a tag for this on danbooru/gelbooru/sankaku chan?
>>842697
If it's a weeb site I dunno, try alien girl or something. I doubt it'll have anything under /xeno/
>>841938
That's one angry dude.
>>843205
I AM ANGRY
ANGRY ABOUT JUJEHYU
Hello xenophiles, I come to you bearing gifts.
I present to you, the best xenomorph porn story (And its sequel) that I've ever read.
http://pastebin.com/W3HFd9Lr
http://pastebin.com/ujv9umi0
I hope you enjoy them near as much as I have.
>>843951
already in the list of stories we have
>>843954
I understand. I only came here under the direction of another anon on a different board.
Still, it's the thought behind the gift that counts.
Goodbye.
>>843951
Good stuff indeed. I wonder if there's more of it?
>>836676
Man, that Predator looks like he just heard the door slam and realized that her boyfriend got home early.
>>844388
God, that'd be great.
>>844552
For a second I thought you meant the predator's boyfriend.
>>844648
Given how predators' sexual dimorphism apparently is, it would've made surprising sense if he had said the predator's girlfriend.
>>835448
>>835532
>>836076
I wish there was more of them too.
>you will never be kept in her hive and made to provide the sperm for the massive broods she plans to overrun the Koprulu sector with [spoiler](fucks that peaceful Zerg shit)[/spoiler]
Fuck.
>>841276
>>841280
Looks like my dick is making another purchase for me.
>>836186
yeah I would.
>>843951
I like it a lot.
Why isn't there any (irl) story about humans being abducted by aliens and fucking that hot extraterrestrial's pussy?
>>847998
There are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B4nio_Vilas_Boas
This one is probably one of the most coveraged.
So what happened to /tg/'s smut threads? Didn't they go to /d/?
>>848340
yep
>>847998
[Coffee]
>>849866
jesus christ a parody comic of a parody comic.
we're getting into dangerous levels of meta here
>>851266
>>851293
YES! YES I LOVE YOU ANON!
>>851306
Awww yis! Multi boobs!
>>849233
What?
>>836215
>>836543
How about know
>>851609
still no
Look I found a little alien quest thing on tumblr
http://big-bad-fallenwolf.tumblr.com/tagged/Host-of-the-Legion
>>851609
... maybe.
>>851949
turian waifu in andromeda pls
>>852342
Is gaider still with bioware?
If so it's doubtful.
>>851949
Sauce?
Anyone got that xeno edition of towergirls?
>>854594
>Selendis SFM
Aww yiss!
>>838923
Would hug, would not fug.
>>854421
Here you go.
Post who you'd rescue.
G-g-g-g-good news, everyone! Well, kinda.
I put a very quick rig on the old Atromose and Khryll models, as well as refining the human model a bit. The rigging on all three are really rough, since I assigned automatic weight painting to the rigs, so there are occasional fuckups with the meshes in certain poses. I'll fix them up soon, though.
>>855782
I also took the time to remake a thing I drew like a year ago.
>>855787
>>855788
>>855789
>>855790
and a bonus version with an Atromose because why not.
>>855792
And a non-lewd but cute thing before I fuck off for tonight.
>>855792
Loled And fapped
>>855053
I am not the person who requested it, but:
>Our first job is to gain a powerful ally, and become strong enough to face the challenges ahead.
>The [Xeno Princess] is our first target, using our wits and stealth, we sneak in before the Hive Princess and her guards realize that we're here, and what our mission is. All we have to do is free her from her bonds.
>Freed, the grateful [Xeno Princess] awards us with our first, free boon, a [Chitin Graft] in the form of a deadly tail, a weapon befitting the mission to come, and we ask her to stay with us, but not simply to rescue the other princesses, no no, we have far more ambitious goals.
>With the help of our new, sexy friend, our ability to sneak about and execute the Hive Princess's guards has grown greatly, even if they're alerted to our activities in the sector.
>[Clone Princess] is our next objective, and once freed with a trail of the Hive's eviscerated guards behind us, she'll soon learn what we have to offer one-another, acquiring her [DNA Extractor] to help us in our master plan in the process.
>With these princesses and gifts, the groundwork for our plot is laid. The [Clone Princess] and her duplicate army make perfect hosts for the [Xeno Princess], allowing us to breed an elite team of alien assassins who can aid us as we free other princesses, and only ask for simple DNA samples in return.
>Over the course of our journey, the [Xeno Princess] will quickly become our passionate companion, earning us her [Cozy Cocoon], and [Clone Princess] will come to appreciate our company, not just allies, but as family as the strongest DNA samples are integrated into our xeno-clones, making them more and more powerful, earning us the [Genome Project] after several nights in the [Cozy Cocoon].
>With the [Genome Project], [Clone Princess] becomes the basis of an unstoppable, genetically-superior xeno harem army, and soon all "three" of us share this existence.
Cont...
>>855855
>[Hive Princess] has no hope against us, as we slaughter her royal guard, and storm her lair, but rather than just let it end here, she has a choice...
>[Hive Princess] and her [Hive Mind Gem] are the last two acquisitions to fill up our spaceship, joining our lust-tastic, new, superior avenue toward galactic domination.
>With our Xeno-Clone-Hive unity, multitude of genetic samples from some of the most powerful princesses in the universe, and mastery over genetic engineering, nothing can stand against us as our Xeno and Hive princesses eventually become Queens, and we teach all those we come across how much better it can be to join shed their previous existence and become a part of our glorious future.
Hey guys, I know a bunch of you came on the boat over from /d/. Hiro finally forced the mods to stop deleting meta threads, so there are threads both here on /aco/ and on /d/ adressing board issues. If you have problems, go and let your voice be heard.
/qa/ thread where Hiro made his decree:
>>>/qa/668743
/aco/ and /d/ threads:
>>856057
>>>/d/7027884
>>856280
>questioning it
>>855792
nice stuff! Will you make the models smoother tho? It bugs me a little
>>837884
>>856732
Only up to a certain amount so that the meshes will not fuck up when posing. They're technically game models, so I want to keep them in the game's aesthetic. Aside from tweaks to the meshes, weight painting, and the addition of textures, the models will remain as they are.
>>855053
>Flatwoods Princess
>Reach-Around
Does... does she have a penis?
I mean, it's fine if she does. I'd just like to know in advance.
>>855855
>>855857
Good taste anon
Xeno Queen is best girl
>>849866
>that ayylmao on the bottom left
>>836551
Stand down Astartes, this thread has been marked as an Abandoned World by Ordo Xeno's.
All efforts here are a waste of the Emperors blessed resorces and are better spent somewhere else.
Now, if you would take me back to the Fortress Precict of Scintilla in that Corvus patterned Blackbird of yours that'd be great.
Just cooked up a fresh set of lewds because I didn't want to burn my self out from working on these models for most of the week.
Oh yeah, and I fixed the weight painting in the human's face, so now his head doesn't implode when he makes facial expressions. Hooray!
>ywn encounter a cursed bench that covers you in wenches whenever you take a seat
>the catch, you temporarily lose your dong but the wenches are as thirsty as ever and don't mind the lack of equipment
>>857942
>>857946
>>857950
>>857952
Also a bonus set because why the fuck not
>>857960
>>857964
>>857966
>>857968
And that'll be it for tonight, I'll fuck off back from whence I came. G'night.
To much heresy, time to die!
>>858026
>posting heresy meme in xeno thread
how original
>>839083
>those hips
Hot.
>>858065
lel, the only reason you want to fuck an xeno is because you have no hope of getting a girl irl.
>>858075
a real girl cant put a 12 inches long tentacle up my ass while slurping on my cock
>>858113
You could ask your girlfriends bull for a threesome.
>>857593
No she's not the one with a penis.
>>857972
cute
>>857313
Your models are fucking awful. Why do you post them?
Just fucking look at them, no one can fap to that.
If you make a porn game that is in 3d, anything but a polycount that can rival modern AAA games is garbage. Porn game = less assets on scene = those assets should be high poly because the character models are the focus.
I mean, for fucks sake I can count the polygons on your models, you have ZERO excuse unless you make a mobile game, in which case: Why would you make a porn mobile game?!
>>858454
>Why would you make a porn mobile game?
To fap on the go I suppose. Who wouldn't want to rub one out on public transport?
>>833395
>cumming inside
this kills the turian
>>857844
I've heard it isn't great. Real time only combat, no heroes, bad AI and diplomacy, "the graphics are nice" seems to be the only praise it's getting.
It seems that, like how with Beyond Earth everybody went "Get Age of Wonders 3 or Endless Legend", everybody is going "get Stellaris or wait for ES2."
>>858454
Well for starters it ain't gonna be a porn game
>>858454
I get this question every single time I post on these threads, because nobody bothers to read the first post of each dump.
Firstly, the models are not made for porn. They're game models, and I'm merely fucking around with the skeletons to make lewd poses to pass the time and I'm posting the screencaps here because why the fuck not. Yes, I know that porn models have really highpoly meshes. And yes, I know that my work is currently very low quality. I get it.
Second, the game's aesthetic is supposed to be low-poly, like for the PSX. This is because I'm tired of people going apeshit over a game just because it looks pretty, and ends up having forgettable gameplay because the studio's budget went into the graphics instead of the coding or mechanics.
Third, the models aren't even finished, most of the weight painting is placeholder, and there's no UV mapping or textures except for the Jujehyu model. Everything I post is pure WIP.
Fourth, the models aren't fucking finished. I say this every single time. I'm working on these models almost daily, and I make lewd poses with them every now and then to blow off steam. Whether or not you can fap to it just because it's blocky is not of my concern, rather what I'm trying to get across is the idea of said scenarios happening. Use your imagination or some shit, I dunno.
Just be happy I'm at least attempting to not make it look like >pic related.
>>852357
What did gaider do?
>>858840
How will the gameplay be?
>>858840
Even if they're not finished, the jujeyhu are sexy as fuck and the others are pretty cute
>>858840
Listen retard, if you can't shit out two models like yours properly weight painted and textured per day then you simply suck.
Making models like yours takes 2-3h at most, NO EXCUSE.
>>858914
Hates non-human waifus
>>859189
which is funny because the human companions are some the most boring fuckers in the games
>>859192
Mankind's contribution to Intergalactic Civilization is Daddy issues.
>>859045
Then make a xenos porn game nigga, I want to fap
>>858285
You can get her here, along with a few other things.
https://sfmlab.com/item/1562/
>>859045
So if it's that easy to make a character model of this quality, let's see what you can do.
All of my professors were in AAA studios at one point, and no, it doesn't take that short to have a complete mesh with proper rigging and texturing. It usually takes a week to do that for just one character, and that's coming from a guy who's been in the vidya industry for years and has a massive reputation as a character artist.
Do keep in mind that I have like 30 character models and counting, as well as school on the side. I may be slow and get distracted easily, but unlike you, I've got shit to do other than shitpost on /aco/ all day.
>>859715
Don't humor the shitposters with responses you faggot
tfw will never be abducted by sexy ayy lmao's
>>859950
>>859956
so nice, I saved this one twice
>>859950
I came here to fap not to feel damn it
>>859963
I'm sorry.
>>859984
>>859962
Yes, moar of that goddamn
ayyy
>>832989
It's mind control or something. I remember that in some bar scene a turian, a salarian, and a human were all argueing that Asari look exactly like their species. I would not be suprised if they all actually look more like pic related.
>>859715
Hey man, don't listen to that guy, you're a beyond valuable addition to this thread unlike that other lazy piece of shit badmouthing you.
>>860097
I think it was more like each dude was arguing what exactly made Asari sexy to them personally. The Turian liked the head tentacle things because they resembled Turian head spikes. The Salarian liked the color of their skin or something and the human liked the tits and ass.
I mean if it was some kind of mind control, then how would Asari get around video recordings? photographs? Can't mind control a camcorder can you?
Don't get me wrong. There may be a mind control aspect of it, but I think it would have to be something minor, like simply emphasizing their allure to all those around. I can't imagine that they are reality warping demons that fiddle with the minds of every person that sees a picture of an Asari.
>>860097
I don't think it's mind control. It's just that different parts of their physiology appeals to different species.
That's what the three at the bar pointed out. They each liked something different about the asari dancer.
Hey, I totally forgot about this, but I wrote a quick story based on this pic I liked.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13IhJ3_M7eDSMFUoAilrnJHnzQWoZfNLbC_rxZ-Uff0o/edit?usp=sharing
Based on pic related, although I mixed things up a bit.
>>843958
good stuff
>>859715
A week? Don't make me laugh. Not at your polygon and detail level.
Let's face it, you are a collegetard with 0 real world experience, your tools and workflows are likely years behind industry standard, if not a whole decade.
Judging from your responses (which all have been excuses so far), you are nothing but deviant art tier trash, unwilling to improve.
>>860328
Haha you're really laying it on thick aren't you?
It's not like he's taken a bunch of crowd funding bux and run
And again, he's got something to show for himself at the least, unlike you who just keeps talking out your ass
Can either of you just ignore the other now?
>>860328
Go the fuck back to /ic/ and quit clogging up this ayylmao thread with your horseshit.
>>860328
>>860328
Faggot no one gives a shit about your "expertise" and whatever other horseshit you want to flinging around. So until you start making some ayy shit of your own and actually contribute, go back to your day job of sucking horse dick and leave our thread in peace.
>>860328
You could inflate an entire fleet of blimps with all the hot air you're blowing.
Ayy breeding
>>860328
Well you're certainly correct about the college and the 0 work experience, that's why I'm in college to begin with. I only have like a year and a half of experience with blender, and a good chunk of what I know I had to figure out myself.
In case you didn't notice, I was talking about my professors when I mentioned it takes a week to properly finish a character model.
And if I really was unwilling to improve as you say I am, believe me, my work would be MUCH worse, and I would have been kicked out of my program halfway into the first year.
Like I said before, if you're such hot shit, let's see your work.
>>860423
I'm tired and bored and have nothing better to do, sorry.
>>860731
A bit rude, but whatever.
>>861060
>a bit rude but whatever
That wasn't geared at you Komissar actually quite happy with your work. Just tired of bullshit trolls who have nothing to add but smugness...
What should i focus on in college to give me the best shot at becoming a spaceman? Im going to do a four year stint and then join the USAF, i figure that that'll give me a good shot. i plan on going back to school after i leave the Air force as well, maybe go for a Doctorate in any astro-science. Thoughts? Also sorry if this is a bit off topic...
>>861334
Physics, astrology, or your best bet is engineering, every space ship needs a Scotty. Funny thing is you can get an excuse to go to space with almost any doctorate. Just figure out an experiment that could differ in micro-g and try to get your ass in a rocket.
But since your going the USAF route diffinently do engineering. Either Aerospace or mechanical.
>>861346
Thank you, i will take this to heart.
>>861497
>>861372
My pleasure anon. Full disclosure though only got a year and a half through mechanical engineering at my uni and haven't served a minute in the service so I'm not by any means an expert but from what I do know for a fact is that's your best bet.
>>861497
>>861499
Yes! YES!
Looks like an Asari/Liara torso with Selendis' model's head and limbs.
Not that I mind. Holy shit do I love seeing Selendis entering the realm of SFM porn.
>>862012
>TheHulkster
I can't unhear the words in Hogans voice now
>>860328
His drawings are hot, but his cgi is horrible? There's no way he can defend something like that. So? It's not my problem. Ultimately it's his.
Original content is the best there is. Sometimes it's not that good, or is even shit. But that happens. Last thing you want to do is to drive people away. Like, i fucking hate fanboys for retarding progression, but this is even worse. What's happening here is that you could be driving people away by being a fucking moron unable to contain his shit important anger issues.
Seriously, get a goddamn grip.
>>857972
Good
>>851493
There was a short story / caption about how this particular alien species has a very potent aphrodisiac that translates to "caffeine". As your enthusiastic new first mate, the clever girl is very early to her station on the bridge.
The *group/space alliance thing* knows that humans have a brewed beverage they use to energize themselves when they need it. Guess which little minx finds nearly a full pot of hot coffee and tries it because of a mix of curiosity and thirst?
Someone find me that ddamn story, I misplaced it
Those jugs look like they can hold a gallon of milk each.
>>862756
Shit now I'm interested.
>>863740
b-but I am using it :/