/weg/ - Western Erotic Games

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>>387807

First for not having a pointless shitstorm this time.

>>387807
Akabur's doing a Shantae game, or is this some fan shit?

>>387822
a friend of akabur if i remember right, one who helped him with the art

>>387829
Sweet. Does the game have a title yet? Want to keep track of it.

>>387832
i believe the shantae bit is just a mini-game in the iris quest game, so look at that i guess?

>>387832
it's Iris Quest, Shantee just appears in a dice minigame
http://www.filedropper dot com slash iris-quest-55-all
here's the minigame demo

>>387832
>>387837
http://www.filedropper dot com slash iris-quest-55-all
link to mingame demo

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>>387837
>>387838
>just a mini-game

It will probably have more actual drawn content than Witch Trainer. The demo gets her to strip for Genie. The full mini-game will have her doing everything.
>>387809

>>387851
>It will probably have more actual drawn content than Witch Trainer

My left testicle has more drawn content than WT

>>387851
sure, there will be more scenes, but she's still a sidecharacter, it's not a Shantae Trainer or whatever

>>387618

Weird error. Normally there should be a file extension for pictures.

What I usually do is adding a copy of an existing character imageset with the name in the error. Your game might look weird, but it'll stop the crashes.

>>387810

You are a very optimistic man.

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>>387965

I found the file, so it could be a fuck-up by the translator.

This is probably a faux pas, but I just can't figure this out: Roundscape says it's cracked in the readme, but when I run the exe it says it requires a security key. Call me a faggot all you want, but what am I missing?

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Hey, I figured this might be a weird question, but since it's a western erotic game, I feel it fits here. Does anyone here play the Barbarian Babes games Spacegirl Interrupted? I've played up until 5, but after that, I couldn't find anything else for it until one day, where I saw they were selling 6, 7, 8 on a website. I can't even find torrents for the last 3, it's fucking stupid. I found an ULMF link for the site, but nobody posted download links for this game, except for one faggot who only shared half of it and told people to buy the game.

Does anyone know where I can get the rest of these games? I just need closure at this point.

Here's the games if you wanna try them for yourself.
http://eye.swfchan.com/search/?q=Spacegirl+Interrupted

>>388202
>3DPD

Not allowed now FUCK OFF.

>>388229
Nigga, it's a western erotic game. Porn happens in it, it was made in the west. Now calm your fucking tits, if you're not going to help me then fine, but I don't care what you do or don't consider to be considered a western erotic game.

>>387812

Nice

>>388267
>This board is meant for posting 2D/3DCG adult content of Western style or origin.

>>388229
Stop using 3DPD wrong you goddamn retard. 3DCG and 3DPD are two entirely different terms.
3DPD = Real life
3DCG = Computer generated images

>>388229
>>388267
>>388288

Is this some kind of performance art? Should we be clapping right now?

God when is overwhored going to update

>>388310
July.

>>388310

It updated two weeks ago, at this point it's going to take a while for the next one.

>>388313
>It updated two weeks ago
But it didn't at all. It last updated January 1st.

>>388314
>tfw no gf

>>388315

Oh wow, I didn't even realize it was so long ago. Time sure flies.

>mods ban blatant shitposter
I knew we liked you guys for some reason!

>>388314

Not even a REEEEEEEE?

I'd say that's a 6.5/10, maybe a 7 at best.

>>388323
There is a definite point to stop in the current version after you beat the cold bitch, and I've been grinding waiting fro the final update. It is probably the only thing I'm looking forward to right now

>>388323
Also remember that he said that the final version would be released on the 8th.

Since last thread somebody was asking for it, here's the last Sarah's Life:

https://kat.cr/sarah-s-life-v0-1-impure-patreon-closed-t12096535.htmlù

I honestly don't understand why anyone would want to play this, but here we are.

>>388341

Wait, didn't you go ahead and defeat the last heroine, the one with the sword that's behind it all?

>>388348
>https://kat.cr/sarah-s-life-v0-1-impure-patreon-closed-t12096535.htmlù
Link doesn't work

>>388354
>.htmlù
Gee, I wonder why. have you tried removing the ù at the end?

>>388354

I mistakenly added a "ù" right there at the end, but come on man, that's something you could have picked up on your own.

>>388348
Joy? No there is a point where we are all going to ship off the the tower she probably is in, and the Tower Mistress says we can't go back, so to use the upgrade system that isn't in the current version before we leave. So I've stopped there because I've been told everything past that point is barebones done. Plus I want to see what upgrades there are

>>388364

>So I've stopped there because I've been told everything past that point is barebones done.

All right, makes sense, I just wanted to be sure you knew there was an actual ending after that.

>>388365
Yeah, but apparently the entire thing is empty as shit because everyone just wanted an ending. So now I'm waiting for the definite final version that has all the fluff. And the wait is killing me

>>388360
>>388362
Fuck sorry I'm a moron

>>388371

I wouldn't say it's empty as shit, but it's clearly less polished than the rest and a few pieces are indeed missing.

>>388377
That and bug fixes like a bunch of scenes missing from the crown recall

>>387811

What is this from?

>>388388

Nothing that ever came out. That's the only pic he ever made about it.

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Found this over on Patreon. New author, seems VN style game. Gonna try it now.

https://mega.nz/#!QoERxJ7C!-s1yUGGurH8BwFCOYpolXihJxLsUlHPXRXl56d0CWtU

For the guy chimping out about 3D porn: I've seen you throw a fit in other threads too. This board has pretty much every fetish out there discussed, but 3D makes you throw a fit, why? I could understand futa, bbw/slob, sissy, but I just can't wrap my head around why you single out 3D EVERY TIME it's mentioned in a thread.

>>388400

It's pretty shit. English was clearly the writer's 9th language, there are like 3 short scenes, and the creator seems content to count that a finished game. The phone is an interesting way to facilitate travel, I suppose, not that there's much travelling to do.

>>388422
He's probably a newfag that saw that his senpais over at /a/ hate on 3DPD, but he's too stupid to actually understand what 3DPD is.

>>388400
Thanks but we already had it.

I'm the person that wanted to make a decent adult game. I don't know where to start. I just want to make something fun and sexy.
Help. Please!

>>388558
Step zero: learn programming.
Step one: go to /dgg/ and ask them, they've got several developers.

I'm serious, can anyone help a guy out?
>>388202
>>388202

>>388558
>I don't know where to start. I just want to make something fun and sexy.
Presumably with what you find fun and sexy, so that it will keep your interest. Then scale it down to something you can realistically make, keeping in mind that if you aren't good at something you'll either have to learn how to do it, pay someone else to do it, or design your game so you don't need to do it.

>>388348

It's the "dev" shilling his game again. He did it in a really obvious way a couple weeks ago. Next time just report his faggotry and ignore.

>>389015

>He did it in a really obvious way a couple weeks ago.

I remember it like it was yesterday. Those were good times.

how the FUCK do i play this dice minigame

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So, uh, how to create such a game? Is Renpy all you need? I can kinda draw (pic related), what else do I have to do to make mad moniez of my otherwise useless skills?

Please tell me it's really easy and any idiot could do it.

>>389139

If that's one of your pics, you are good to go. You need a programmer and a writer, sure, but if you can regularly put out art of that level, you'll have no problem finding them.

>>389139
>what else do I have to do to make mad moniez
A good writer. Ren'py is piss easy if all you want to do with it is a visual novel.

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>>389139

Renpy for those dime a dozen slave trainer "games". I haven't really looked into Renpy, so I don't know a lot about its customizability. Python is easy to use and free. Implementing any kind of DRM is nearly impossible though, since you don't compile the code for the end user (you can, if you want though, but still easily reversed).

RPG maker VX ace is a good choice too, if you customize it. The vanilla fantasy RPG setting is shit and so are the resources. I'm currently working on a test project and I can safely say that the engine is fairly customizable. You can teach yourself Ruby within a couple of days if you have some basic programming experience.

That picture looks really good by the way. I suggest you look for a programmer to spearhead the project if you're not familiar with game development.

Pic related: my test project's pause menu. Art is borrowed from a random Japanese project. There's custom stats, a pregnancy gauge, edited the menu commands (and removed the useless ones) and the standing picture changes according to the clothes she's wearing (6 clothing regions). Prologue is nearly done, so I might even post the game in the near future.

>>389164

Looks pretty good, that's some solid programming right there.

>>389139
>>389164

Why don't you two band together?

>>387807
Is there a way to cheat the minigame? I cant be fucked grinding this out, I just want to fap

>>389178
Dont worry, I thought there was 3 wins and a sex scene or something at the end

>>389178
git gud

>>387965
>>388005
Thanks. Just realised that all files have weird names in Latin characters only, despite my locale being Japanese. I don't know why that is, but I'll try to figure it out.
Now the first error is fixed I run into a music error with the same reason once I decide to play the intro.
Suspecting it might be Windows 10 fucking me over.

>>389249

>Suspecting it might be Windows 10 fucking me over.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

>>389249
I'm on Windows 10 and have no issues. Have you tried deleting it and downloading it again?

>>389255
To a different HDD, yes. Didn't make a difference and I got 3 downloads of this by now.
I'll just google some more.

>>389277
What torrent client are you using?

>>389289
µTorrent and Tixati

>>389296
µTorrent should be able to download it, so I'm not sure what's wrong. I'm using qBittorrent, you could try that.

>>389300
To my surprise, it was 7zip causing the problems.
For some odd reason, despite what google said about 7zip working fine with Japanese file names, mine did not. WinRar didn't like them either, nor did any other program I tried.
However, Windows Explorer extracted the zip just fine.
Really was somewhat of a last straw, as it said 7zip works fine with it everywhere (I even had 7zip running in Japanese, but that obviously didn't solve it either).
It just seems retarded for a program to have issues with S-JIS encoding, when you can actually run it in Japanese.

>>388304
holy shit you spergs are ruining this fucking place

WHO CARES my god post porn or fuck off

>>387807
>>387809
>>387851
Do we have a full image rip of the Shantae pics from the game?

Or some tools to rip gfx out of those games?

>>389457
That IS the full image rip

>>389457

Anon, that's it.

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>>389457

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>>388397
>That's the only pic he ever made about it.

Anyone have the 7.3 version of Towergirls?
http://towerkc.blogspot.com/

>>389441
>anon calls out shitposter
>shitposter gets banned
>next day someone says that the anon is ruining this place
I wonder who's behind this post?

>>387807

>>O.0 Iris Quest When?

>>389575

It's not for us mortals to know.

>>389580
...Yes it is ...

>>389575
Soon™

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This seems deceptively easy. I just scribbled up some rough shit and put it in code. Is Ren'Py really that casual?

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>>389675
And yes, the ink is shit and I didn't color anything yet.

>>389675
Yes it is, but depending on how far you want to breach (choices that do matter and stuff) its more of a question how well you can organize/plan than it is how well can you code?

Also, depending on how complex you want to make certain things, it gets harder than that, but honestly, if your game is any good, you can easily ask for help here...

>>389675
>>389677

If you don't want to do anything too complex with it, yes, it's super casual. Making a visual novel in Ren'Py is very easy.

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>>389677

>>389682
>>389683
Breddy good. Let's see how far I can take this, then.

>>389675
>>389677
>>389684

Godspeed, anon. Godspeed.

>>389675
>Is Ren'Py really that casual?
Yes. There's a reason that everyone only recommends Ren'Py to non-programmers. Actual programmers use real languages while artists use Ren'Py.

>>389675
>>389747
>Actual programmers use real languages while artists use Ren'Py.
Mean sounding but true: Ren'Py is perfect for artists and writers with no coding experience whatsoever.

anyone has supercreep 0.03?

>>389846

Sorry anon, I still can't find it. Worse case scenario I'll pledge to his patreon and get it at the end of the month.

>>389675
>>389677
>>389684
Best of luck with this, looking forward to seeing more.

>>389747
Whats wrong with using Renpy as programmer? Solid groundwork done from the looks of it.

>>389920
You should be coding your games in assembly on a Java machine. You don't need an operating system like Ren'py

t.very knowledgeable computer scientist / seasoned game developer

>>387851
Wasn't there something like this, except with Risky Boots instead?

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>>389935
Risky Boots was in the first demo.

Is there a gallery of the cgs for malice

>>389920
Technically speaking, nothing is wrong with the language itself. It's just that programmers typically like to have a bit more freedom with their code, hence why C++ is as massive as it is.
>>389930
You have convinced me to add "t. " to my filter. Literally every single post that includes that is nothing but shitposting.
Where did it even originate? /pol/? Reddit?

>>389970
>You have convinced me to add "t. " to my filter.
What does it even mean? I've never seen it before.

>>389976
People seem to use it as a sort of attribution of a quote, such Confucius in this example:
"Blatant shitposting" -Confucius
But they always skip a line between the body of the text and the "t, " and it's always used in conjunction with shitposting.

>>389938
anybody got a link?

>>389970
>>389976
>>390049
It comes from Spurdo-posting. A bunch of Spurdo quotes end in "t. Spurdo Sparde." Apparently in whatever country Spurdo originally comes from the t bit is an abbreviation that means "signed."

>>390100

>http://pastebin.com/Y0WWTZ67

It's in the OP, in the pastebin, under the name Iris Quest.

>>389525
Was this supposed to be a game about Zone-tan "convincing" characters to feature in her videos?
Because that would have been genius.

Idea for a porn game. You fuck girls without using any effort or intelligence what-so-ever.

You're welcome

>>389517
lmao that's a well worked salary

idea for a game, you actually get to rape girls

can you get carpel tunnel from fapping too much?

>>390523
no

Is there a way to deliberately pass the time to night in Noxian Nights?

>>389164
You can customize Renpy plenty, but you need to know Python to do it. You can't do stuff like 3D graphics and you'd have to write the code for like platformers or JRPG type games almost from scratch, but you can do plenty with games that are VNs, or classic point and click adventure games, or board games, or whatever.

>>389920
Yeah, the basic assumption is that "coders don't need it," so it would be less efficient than just building a game from scratch, but really if you do know Python well you can rebuild any part of Renpy that you don't like, even the core functions, so it's a good head start that can easily grow with you.

>>390844

After the first few days, where you can only move on to night by following the plot, you can move on to night by sending the girls to sleep at the old man shack.

>>390400
that's just porn

>>391080
porn is serious business tbqh

>>390106
Finland.

>>390400
anon, sometimes plot is more interesting than the girls

Re:Maid download link (full HD version for patreon), cheats?

>>390883
>coders
Goddamn, this is the worst part about the whole "Get retards into programming!" movement.

>>390883
That's absurd. It would be like saying that the best tool for a carpenter is a car because it can do many things, and they can just crash their car into a nail if they need to hammer one in.
Ren'Py is a fine language if you're making a VN, but just look at Defiler Wings if you want to know why you shouldn't use it for more advanced games.

>>389675
>>389677
Let me know if you need any help with this. I can write + do some graphic design.

>>391229
I'm just trying out stuff currently. It goes reasonably well but I expect to run into problems somewhere around if-when stuff. No idea if I want to really do something big with it. Right now, I'm sitting at 15 minutes of gameplay and lots of scribbled up images.

Well at least I included elf twins now.

>>391367

>Well at least I included elf twins now.

Hype!

>>391370
How long is a VN supposed to be anyway? Everyone's talking about 50+ hours, that's fucking insane. How long was Unteralterbach?

Last VNs I played were from the 90s and it shows. Ah well.

>>391374

I think they mean 50 hours to cover every possible path, and even that is for professional works. If you can make something that could keep people busy for an hour, that would already be impressive.

>>391378
Okay, we'll see how it goes then. Then again, I shouldn't really go for a full-blown game in my first try, haha. We'll see.

>>391382

>I shouldn't really go for a full-blown game in my first try

I could not agree more: trying to do something that big on your first try would only make you give up.

>>391374
>Everyone's talking about 50+ hours, that's fucking insane
50+ hours is literally the mark on vndb for the longest possible category of VN's. Unteralterbach was medium, 10-30 hours, but often time a nukige (a VN designed only for fapping) will be much shorter than the typical VN.

>>391402
Man, that means I need a lot more text. I alreadyoverused the meme tier humor, this will be hard.

>>391564
Nah. As the other anon said, trying to go too big will just burn you out. There's no shame in your first project being very short, <2 hours.

>>391564

Anon, seriously, 50 hours is what a professional product or a community effort should reach, not something you could do on your own. For your first try on your own, even getting up to 1 hour wold be a lot.

http://overwhored.blogspot.ca/2016/02/final-beta-tonight.html
Some good news

>>391606

Good to hear!

>>391578
I'm not aiming for 50 hours. Don't worry. I'm just learning this shit. 50 hours or rather, anything beyond 1 or 2 is out of the question, really.

>>391639

>anything beyond 1 or 2 is out of the question, really.

That's the spirit!

>>391639
Good job, anon. Always aim low enough that you'll invariably exceed your expectations.

>>389550
So game is pretty fun but does it have a any content? I read a little and i was suprised boogie made some CG for this.
I'm looking forward with you anon for someone to drop 7.3. Also do you have any tips in playin it, im ain't a pussy and I won't use debug mode.

>>389164
I want to play this

>>391211
If you know half of what you'd need to know to build a game engine from scratch, then you know enough to be able to take Renpy apart and put it back together in the way you'd need it to, for a lot of different game types, at least. It isn't the engine I'd use to do anything with heavy realtime action, but anything remotely turn-based it's a fine platform to build on.

>>391578
Of course, no matter how much work you turn in, people will complain that it's not enough and that the game is "unfinished."

>>391805

The trick to avoid that is to not put a self insert in the game saying that a certain part is unfinished.

New update for the Last Sovereign:
http://the-last-sovereign.blogspot.com/2016/02/version-0161-public-release.html

>>391816

Oh, finally! I was dying without my fix of economics!

>>391822
Likewise. Also I didn't realize how much I missed Nalili being Nalili

roguelike .955

https://mega.nz/#!lVQnFYhQ!27QDPKsIUwmrG1mWNfsba6D92Y8HjnRrTc5PtLVKJ3Q

>Added more kissing options
>More flirt options
>Black laced panties for sale
>QoL changes
>Bugfixes

If nothing major comes up over the weekend, he's going to start another big update where Rogue remembers what she's done or denied to do, but it'll break a bunch of shit so no updates for a bit while he works it out.

>>391916
Nice.

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Does anyone have the new preview images ZONE's new ghostbusters flash?

>>391578
I wouldnt say 1 hour is a lot. You can make one hour of decent content in like 12 hours of labor. An hour of pretty high quality content in 30 of labor.

I would shoot for medium quality, 3 hours. If I had any intention to contribute anything at all.

>>392015
>You can make one hour of decent content in like 12 hours of labor
In what world does it only take 12 hours to write a script, draw literally everything, and program it?

>>392029
One where Renpy has most of the programming done and all you need to do is input your script in the correct format, where you only need to draw like three poses, and where the average person can type at 100 wpm.

If you are making a game that pretty well writes itself, it would be easy. And given that you are only making an hour worth of content, its not like you can have an intricate plot or anything. An hour long game would be like one of the dating sim flash games you can find from the early 00's, except with one girl and ending with a kiss.

>>392058
>where the average person can type at 100 wpm
The average person types closer to 20wpm, but your entire point is shit regardless. The average adult reads at roughly 250 words per minute, which would make an hour of content roughly 15,000 words. Using your absurdly generous statistic of 100wpm, just typing that script would take two and a half hours of concentrated typing, which is of course absurd, because scriptwriting is a creative process, not a mechanical one.
>An hour long game would be like one of the dating sim flash games you can find from the early 00's, except with one girl and ending with a kiss
You mean those dating sims that even with all of their characters only take around an hour to complete?

Matbe I'm just fucking shit but does anyone else find the combat in Iris quest to be hard as fuck? Its bare bones as hell but still lets the latter enemies pile on buffs with no way to counter it. I just wanted silly bandit adventures and porn. Not an rpg that forgot to let you level or grind

>>392058

>If you are making a game that pretty well writes itself

And if you are not making a game that magically writes itself?

>An hour long game would be like one of the dating sim flash games you can find from the early 00's

Wait, how slow are you at gaming? It took you one hour to play through one of those?

>>392075

>does anyone else find the combat in Iris quest to be hard as fuck?

It's been ages since the demo came out, but I remember a lot of people had problems with it, so you are certainly not the only one.

>>392029
>>392073
>>392076
Why are you even bothering with this guy? He already said he has no intention to contribute anything at all, why do you think he'd care enough to give some useful opinion?

>>392058
>the average person can type at 100 wpm.
What?

>>392058
>Game writes itself
>average is 100 wpm
>Only need to draw like three poses

What the fuck am I reading?

>>392058
>100 wpm.
Are you high?

>>392058
>the average person can type at 100 wpm
This is retarded even by /vg/ standards

>They don't live in 100WPM World

Man, your world must suck.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

There, put you bitches down in a minute.

>>391822
This is like the one game I think would work better as a VN. Decent story but I can't get excited over the generic rpgmaker combat.

>>392158

>I can't get excited over the generic rpgmaker combat

I don't know, I think they managed to make it more interesting than most RPGmaker games, but I can see where you are coming from.

>>392058
>One where Renpy has most of the programming done and all you need to do is input your script in the correct format, where you only need to draw like three poses, and where the average person can type at 100 wpm.
Wew laddie

>ctrl + f future fragments
>0 results
Fuck this shit.

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Wow, I look through these threads sometimes but nobody mentions Overwhored so I'm surprised to see people have this time. I do - NOT - stealth shill my game. I shill my game openly.

The final beta is up on my patreon. There's probably a few bugs, so if bugs make you sperg out don't play the beta. The public release will be out in about a week or so. For those of you that hate patreon remember the public release will be free.

https://www.patreon.com/cypressz?ty=h

Sorry it took so long, folks. I've been working on this game for five years and I'll openly admit I'm sick as hell of working on it. I just want it done properly so I don't have to come back and do stuff again. I'm happy and proud of what I've done - I started as a writer with no game experience and built an 8+ hour RPG with full art and custom programming work. That said, I'm ready to move onto new projects. I've also been doing a lot of pre-production on my next game, a hypnosis/incest themed visual novel, and I'll have a demo out before long for it.

If you want to leave feedback on stuff to change though, this is the time to do it. Once the public release goes out I won't be going back.

What is the fun part of making games?

>>392353
It's the same sort of "fun" you get from running a marathon. You make something you can feel pride in, you enjoy being creative.

If you actually want to finish it, however, it's a long and difficult journey and it isn't actually fun a lot of the time. It's work. It's deeply fulfilling, but it is a long hard slog. It comes down to whether you want that fulfillment and pride in finishing something.

>>392341
>a hypnosis/incest themed visual novel
Well, you've sold me.

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>>392367
I think it'll be a lot of fun. It's about a guy that wants to turn his mom and three sisters into sex slaves during a snowed in weekend with the power of hypnosis.

I've also brought in a writer named Pan that specializes in mind control and incest themed stories to help out. He's going to co-author it and started work already based on an outline I gave him. I'll still be doing a lot of the writing but he's helped me get a head start. While I finished Overwhored he was free to write on this game a bit.

If the idea appeals to you you should look up his "Limits" series. It was the inspiration for this game.

>>392375
Google brings up nothing for "Limits" specific even when paired with porn, games, hynotism, etc etc. More information?

>>392375
>during a snowed in weekend
Please for the love of god don't make it time-based. I don't want to have to play it 37 times just because I'm too slow and want to see all the scenes.

>>392385
Well I do

>>392386
I will fight you to determine which one of us has the correct opinion.

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>>392382
http://www.mcstories.com/Authors/Pan.html

It's listed on that page.

I have a page there too, though I have a story up on that site as well, though it's just one.

http://www.mcstories.com/Authors/Cypress_z.html

>>392385
It won't be. It's more an experiment into seeing how expensive/difficult VN's are to produce than anything else, so there won't be a lot of branching paths or a timer. It'll be pretty straightforward and production will only take a few months. I already have the backgrounds inked.

>>392388
Im not plebeian enough to resort to violence; therefore, my opinion is correct.

>>392389
>Though though though
Gah, sorry about the repetition. I'm bone-tired. I've been hauling truckfulls of firewood during the day and pulling all-nighters on the computer to get Overwhored done enough to go out today for the past few days. I've had somewhere around four hours of sleep a day for the past few days.

>>391916
Thank you

>>391955
It's always posted Here: http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Zone/1

>>392341

>I've also been doing a lot of pre-production on my next game, a hypnosis/incest themed visual novel, and I'll have a demo out before long for it.

Sounds great, color me interested.

>>392375

>I've also brought in a writer named Pan

Oh shit, Pan! The guy is great, I've fapped raw to his writings several times.

>>393008

And here's the overwhored link, because I cannot not be an ungrateful faggot.

https://mega.nz/#!78w2lDbQ!sUcr-GMLsPKPmbdockcwVDK7gAPHHjmsBfzg9uaMep4

>>393010
Do that if you wanna man. If any of you like it feel free to donate - remember, I'm making another game after this BECAUSE of the donations. That said you had to donate to get access to the link, so thanks!

But remember I don't post betas to the public for another reason, and that's that they might have game breaking bugs. Just remember that if you decide to play that link.

>>393066

>But remember I don't post betas to the public for another reason, and that's that they might have game breaking bugs.

Jokes on you, I get off on people getting cockblocked by game breaking bugs.

But seriously, thanks for your hard work these last few years and good luck with your next game, it sounds really interesting and Pan is a solid, reliable writer.

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Does anyone have an update on Breeding season, Iris quest and that Injustice game?

>>393080
>Jokes on you, I get off on people getting cockblocked by game breaking bugs.
Akabur please go back to work.

>>393088
IQ got a minigame demo released
>>387838

>>393088

>Does anyone have an update on Breeding season, Iris quest and that Injustice game?

Injustice has been put on hold indefinitely after Patreon told SR7 to take it down. Iris Quest keeps being worked on. Like >>393102 said, there was a minigame demo out just recently.
I know nothing about Breeding Season.

>>393108
>Copyright BS
This is why despite my game starting as a parody I used original characters for everything. SR7 would have been much better served to create some "original" characters that are thinly veiled references to the originals. It would have allowed him to make a game like that without any worries about copyright claims.

He still could, DESU. I hope he does. He had a decent idea.

Any New News about Dilerum by nikraria

>>393189

Famous characters are an easy way to gather early interest, that's for sure, but yeah, they carry that risk with them. Expies would be almost as good, but at this point I think SR7 will stick with the completely-original-characters-road for quite a while.

Anyone have any saves for Delirium, HypnoSlave, Iris Quest, Venture Seas or some other games?

>>393201
Probably. I can practically count up the hours of labor that went into that game by looking at the art assets alone, and it is a devastating loss to have something like that taken down. It will absolutely mess you up.

I think one of the prime benefits to parody is also the freedom, though. You can do female versions of characters and company crossovers (Marvel, DC, Wildstorm, etc) without it being jarring to the player.

I can't imagine him wanting to jump into another project that big after getting fucked before, but if he does I think that would serve him best. He can just keep the Timm style.

>>393215

I completely agree with you. The poor guys are probably too traumatized to get back to superheroes any time soon.

So Injustice Unlimited got cancelled right? Does anyone have a zip of all the images? I played through it, but I'm not sure if I got all the content and I love the art.

>>393088
Why did they remove all the sex scenes from the updated breeding season? Shittiest game out there making way too much money.

>>393421

>Why did they remove all the sex scenes from the updated breeding season?

Even by furries standards, Breeding Season is insane. The more they work on it, the more they fuck it up.

>>393503
It's because literally no part of the team has any idea what they're doing, and they're constantly trying to make workarounds for their spaghetti code instead of just taking an hour or two to rewrite the whole thing.

Why is Stroke of Madness censored?

>>387807
Who is the artist for this game?

>>393534
Dahr

>>393534

Dahr is the artist, Xaljio is the coder.

>>393534
Is this some sort of bait, shitposting or are you just retarded?

So guys, what's a good RPGMaker game for someone who never played one before?
I want to play a RPGMaker game that will leave me with a good impression. Which one should I go for, first?

>>393518
DLsite rules.

>>393553

The Last Sovereign. Be warned that the first protagonist is a decoy and that you'll soon switch to the real main character.

>>393562
Alright, thanks. I will try that then.

>>393561
And I guess the servers are in Japan. A pity, really.

>>393553
Not Western, but Violated Heroine is still the best one out there

>>393573

>Alright, thanks. I will try that then.

I hope you like politics and economics.

>>393576
Japanese? Therefore censored, I suppose?

>>393580
Hmm... Yeah, sure, I don't mind porn games having politics.
As long as the game is more about sex and less about politics, I suppose.

>>393562
>>393580
Wait, wait... Is Last Sovereign a finished game or demo/beta something?

>>393590

>Hmm... Yeah, sure, I don't mind porn games having politics.
>As long as the game is more about sex and less about politics, I suppose.

You're good to go, then.

>>393595

It's not finished yet, but it's being worked on and there are already dozens of hours of gameplay.

>>393596
Huh, well, I'll try it anyway. Thanks again.

>>393573
>>393590
Would be nice if the artist released a patch on his HF/patreon/whatever.

>>391564
Update:

I'm now up to ~30 minutes of gameplay. I still have to redraw some stuff, fuck up the ending beyond all recognition and add an intro and some more text here and there. I guess 1 hour is the max I'm shooting for.

I'm planning to push all kinds of sex scenes into it. Right now, I'm at 3. I still need 2-3 more. Maybe 4. Let's see. It's really fun so far. But I dread the re-drawing of all stuff.

>>393614

>I'm now up to ~30 minutes of gameplay.

Holy shit, anon, you're fast! Can't wait to see what you're working on.

>>393633
I guess the speed will go down when I redraw. Maybe I'll try animating some small things, let's see. And real life will probably fuck me over as usual.

But we'll see.

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>>389139
>>389164
please based anons, PLEASE

>>393652

Take your time and keep going, there's no hurry.

>>393670
>a game for the worst star wars aside the holiday special.
Anon pls.

>>393685

lol okay

>>393685
>implying the holiday special isn't god tier

>>393595
It gets updated once a month with new content, update 16 just released yesterday. >>391816

Guys like Cypress make me wish I made a bunch of money, because I'd totally give him his fair share

Is Stroke of Madness any good? How does it stack up to, say, Corrupting the Priestess?

>>393778

They are completely different, to the point I honestly have no way to compare them.

>>393777
>You'll never be rich and be able to give your favorite porn artists the money they deserve

>>393778
It's a REALLY short game. It has like 4 scenes.

>>393784
Hell I picked up a version that saves just before each. I hope the new game has more, I really like the artists stuff

>>393777
Daww, thanks.

Also I put up a new beta because as I figured might be the case the old one had a game breaking bug.

Link to the Overwhored bug fixed final beta (sorry Cypress, I'm still a giant faggot).

https://mega.nz/#!S8hBBTJb!z92-MU_wPmX7TE6fbmWdncmg6mWhFBvfKjQophj2OUI

>>394022
I have mixed feeling about this. I think I'm just going to wait for a week until the public version comes out, since any possible bugs will get smoothed out. It anyone does go ahead and download it, maybe just look for bug and shit and tell Cypress about them

Yeah, im still getting an error when trying to pass into Illyatar's kingdom after setting up camp

>>393995
Hey Cypress, did I see elsewhere that you were paying some women to put voice-work in Home Invasion/Violation/What Have You?

This may just be me being a pessimist, but if so I can't help but feel that's a bad idea. Voice work done badly can get cringy as fuck. Unless you're really, really confident in who you find (and possibly even if you are, since tastes might vary), then that's potentially a lot of money and time invested in something that could fuck up horribly.

>>394109

>that's potentially a lot of money

How much could it possibly cost? Honest question here, I have no idea how much a semi professional voice actor could reasonably ask.

>>394109
It's a very short game and it's meant to be a test more than anything else. The costs probably won't be as extreme as you imagine.

I will say that I used to be a stage actor at one point in my life. I can tell people who know how to act from those that don't and I know how to give direction. If I don't get people of sufficient skill I just won't bother with VA's at all. And I'll include an option to turn the voices off anyway.
>>394100
What error? Because importing old saves will give you an error automatically, I can't fix that.

i have the same problem

>>394124
>New Game
>Skipping Past Audr
>typing in secret code for lvl 99
>Go to Bilbao
>Finish Bilbao (get robot girl)
>Take ship to Illmatar's Kingdom and set up camp
>Talk to Goblin girl, then Daughter for passage
> script "Game_Interpeter": line 1411:NameError
undefined method or variable "weather_stop"

>>394147
Thanks. I'll get a new beta uploaded with fixes in a few hours.

>>393596
Question about the Last Sovereign.
Is it supposed to start off like that?
Without some sort of an intro to difine the who/why/where you are? And with some sort of a party already formed but can't be viewed anywhere in the game's menus?

>>394758
Ok, there's obviously something wrong here.
The game starts me up with a 15 level character called Kai in some city district, equipped a shinning sword and armor.
When I try to talk with someone, there's a bunch of other characters talking as if I have a fully formed adventuring party with me already. Some old man, a young green-haired boy, a blonde whoman and another girl that can sense things, who I can't see them anywhere else and the formations are greyed out too. I have no idea who these guys are and why are they with my character.
That's what I get when I start a New Game in version 0.16.1
I don't think this is how it should be.

>>394147
someone have the link for the edit 3 ?

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>>393670

(I'm the guy from the second game you referred to)

I've been idle for two weeks now, thinking about the best approach to handle the story.

What I'm going to do next:
>Write a detailed bio for the main character, her "nemesis" and a quick bio of the other characters
I'm fairly convinced that this will enable me to write a detailed and more interesting story than the average adult game.
>Figure out an interesting combat system
Art assets are there, but I need to figure out an interesting combat system with: no random encounters, no grinding, no magic, ...
>Do the interiors of the second town and populate it

>>394758
>>394788

What did I tell you about the first protagonist being a foil? Yes, that's how things are supposed to be: you are playing the prologue to the real story.

>>394905
that perspective makes my head hurt

>>394905

Good luck, anon.

>>389139
all of my dicks
do you have more?

>>394920
Oh I see. I remembered that but I still expected some kind of an intro, I guess.
Ok, thanks again.

>>394965
Hey, I'm working on it. I'm totally out of the loop when it comes to inking since I tend to take breaks from art that are too long.

I added some small trap scene, too. No sex because no homo, but the inking went so well on him I figured I might as well insert him.

Got almost no work done today, though.

>>395051
what about a page where you have more of your work?

>>395056
Don't have one. Actually I don't even enough enough pics to fill it. It's just on and off for me.

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Actually, I can show you some more scribbles and shit. I still need to ink and color all this... oy vey.

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>>395089

>>393189
Would it be opening you to legal troubles if you revealed who you based each character on? I know the Overmind is the Overlord, anyone else?

>>395027
That IS the intro- you get to see the kind of people who become Chosen Ones™, and as you play the actual protagonist, you'll find out more about the world. Honestly, the 'show, not tell' approach is something I wish more games did.

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>>395094
No. Parody is legally protected in the US. However there's no need. The female characters were all original.

There were some inspirations. The entire game was originally based on a theological essay on the seven virtues. I wrote it but nobody read it. The heroines were all based on those virtues. I used Overlord as the basis because it had heroes corrupted into the seven sins. I had written my essay on how the virtues would without balance from the other virtues turn into corruptions of their own.

Each heroine is based upon that idea. Nanshe is corrupt Diligence. Branda is corrupt Temperance. Rubati is corrupt Chastity. Audr is corrupt Charity. Bilbine is corrupt Kindness, and Joy is corrupt Humility.

The Overmind himself continues the trend in a way, but that goes into spoilers.

It's fair enough to say that some characters occupied similar roles as the game characters, however. For instance the Tower Mistress held the same position Gnarl did. Alexia, Kael and Iskis hold the same position as the minions. Drnwyn holds the same position as the minion blacksmith, etc. There are similarities but the characters are quite different. I didn't just want to do a thinly veiled parody. I used parody as a vehicle to tell a story of my own.

>>394920
I DLed the game today, I started in a desert, and got 2 people (old man, and a girl).

What he describes sounds different. I got 0.16.1 too.

Also no possibility to talk to someone, you walk up the campfire, two people join your group. Im like 6 hours in now, and now im confused.

>>395092
I understand using real photos to reduce workload, but it does look strange to have a drawn character on a real 3D location.

>>394905
Good luck anon, mind if i ask what's the theme of the game and personality of mc?

>>394022
I actually can't get the boat to take me anywhere the first time you get to use it. Just skirts around the edge of the land but can't go south because of rocks, and cant go north because dark water.... Anyone help?

>>395222
>>395109

>>395222
I put a new beta up to deal with it. But since I want your money like the greedy Scrooge McDuck I am I don't put up the link here.

>>395228
Fair enough

>>395109
I guess it's human nature that most of us (myself included) are a lot more aware of the Seven Sins than the Seven Virtues. Of course they also aren't actually in any scriptures, but were made up, IIRC by Augustine to create a model of his idea of how sin and grace work.

So I'm not familiar with how he defined the difference between Dilligence and Patience, but I couldn't help but feel as though Nanshe and Ilmatar kind of went about their corruption the same way. Both concluded that the hyu-mons couldn't endure for the Overmind's further resurrections, and so used magic to try and make a more permanent solution. Ilmatar's killings were just much less personal and more wide-ranging than Nanshe's.
Also, how did you figure that Kindness led to Bilbine being part ultra-capitalist and part 10 years in the iso-duckbot, creep?

>>395277
Bilbine is based off of Francoist Spain crossed with Fox News. Kindness was hard as hell, the initial concept was someone that grew up in a kind of cruel Las Vegas style place and took control. Ultimately I borrowed from history.

Kindness works only if it is voluntary and comes from oneself. If kindness is a forced action it's a kind of facism. It imprisons the soul in a shell of pre-prepared action. In essence, it's much like the golems forced to do kind acts. This doesn't mean kindness and enforcing politeness and civility are bad; far from it. But an absolutist enforcement of it is pretty damn fascist. Poverty tends to lead to cruelty because desperate poor people have to do more to survive. Thus it would be the comfortable rich that would endure. Their cruelty lives behind closed doors and is unlikely to be seen when looking for obvious issues.

Nanshe and Ilmatar are somewhat similar, yes, but Patience and Diligence are similar. Diligence means working without fail or complaint. Patience means enduring hardship without complaint. Diligence force upon others is basically slavery, while Patience forced upon others is basically torture where you're not allowed to express your pain.

I might as well finish things off here. Audr is a bit like tumblr. She's corrupted charity and she practices cultural imperialism disguised as help.

Rubati is corrupted chastity - you don't have to look far for historical examples of that. Her cathedral was inspired by certain Irish nunneries you might have heard of.

Branda is corrupted Temperance. It's essentially self control and self denial. Forced upon others it's just austerity and denial of their needs and desires.

Virtues are good because they're internal, self-driven things. Guiding others toward them is good, but trying to force others towards them is absolutely vile and essentially what leads to the corrupted virtues.

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>>395109
>>395277
>>395304
>Bilbine
?

>>389164
How exactly does one "gullible"?

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>>395165
I know, this is also something to work on. It's all basically stock images and really rough sketches right now.

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>Brozeks & Grozeks posted Changing
Hello guys.

Here we want to present you a new features of our project.

First, we decided to refuse from Ren'py source and transfer our game to another game source. That means, that we change game platform and now will be using web browser for playing. May be later we will consider to use another platforms, like Android, IOS and etc.

Second, we will improve gameplay with many things like:
1) You will manipulate mother and daughter, and give them many commands, like go to eat, sleep, take a shower and etc.
2) All this actions will be establish on timing.
3) Characters will get experience from some actions and increase their levels. From their levels will be depend opening new features, actions and etc.

Also, combat system will be changed, but we'll cover that later.

>>395339
so basically starting from scratch but keeping the art.

>>395353
pretty much
maybe it's for the better, it was a fucking mess

>>395325

Same as "groped". "Being" gullible (as in picking the choices where you do lewd stuff instead of telling them to piss off). "Being" groped.

But I'm probably going to drop that stat. Groping should be enough for stat tracking.

>>395174

Story will start out in a modern village, with "time travel" to a medieval setting. I was thinking of making her a complete cunt and focussing on the mind breaking in the medieval-themed environment.

>>395159

>Im like 6 hours in now

Everything sounds normal until this point: the prologue lasts twenty minutes at most. The Chosen One finds the man and the girl, then they go to the castle and get their asses kicked. Then the game begins.

Here comes the latest Overwhored final beta! Take it while I'm still a giant, ungrateful faggot!

https://mega.nz/#!b4gjRbhJ!Rqbd5QsY98E-94qlq0kKMXtox3zJyYrm5Cs1TFSnFwQ

>>395089
>>395092
>>395327

I love everything about this. I'm sure further down the line you'll switch the stock images with drawn backgrounds.

>>395339

It honestly sounds like it's for the best. It'll probably take them months, but maybe this way we'll get a decent game instead of the horrible mess we have now.

>>395304
>Audr is a bit like tumblr.
>a bit like
>a bit
Nigga Audr is clearly a SJW

>>395381
Was just confused because the post I responded to, responded to a post saying

>The game starts me up with a 15 level character called Kai in some city district, equipped a shinning sword and armor.
>When I try to talk with someone, there's a bunch of other characters talking as if I have a fully formed adventuring party with me already. Some old man, a young green-haired boy, a blonde whoman and another girl that can sense things, who I can't see them

Which is not how my game started, not in a city district, not with a full party (2 people, the real you and a girl), so I got confused there.

>>395386
The only thing I can really think off seeing those images, is that im really jealous that he can draw them just like that in a really short timespan...

>>395027
>>395159
>>395413

I just checked what happens when you start a new game int the latest version and it looks like it's actually bugged, so I'm a double faggot and the fault it's not yours. I can only hope it'll be fixed soon, but until then you are 100% right and I apologize for wasting your time.

>>394788

You are completely right, that's not how it should start and the latest version fucks up the new game part. Like I said here >>395419, my bad.

>>395421
So the right start is as choosen in the desert like area?

>>395424

Yes, that's how it should begin: there's a desert area, two party members to pick up, a castle very near to walk into and then you move on to the real game.

>>395377
>I was thinking of making her a complete cunt and focussing on the mind breaking in the medieval-themed environment.
my nigga

>>395377
>Story will start out in a modern village, with "time travel" to a medieval setting. I was thinking of making her a complete cunt and focussing on the mind breaking in the medieval-themed environment.
Sounds interesting.

>>395027
>>395159
>>395413
>>394788

The latest Last Sovereign version now seems to be fine. Here's a link:

https://mega.nz/#!Hw0yiRCa!MCxAYXnO8rjNvD9OPdfUVZ8BwxpA9LVLfeMsNMRzJNE

Starting a new game in this one will not fuck you over.

>>395377
>Story will start out in a modern village, with "time travel" to a medieval setting.
So do you travel back and forth between the two, or is it just one of those pointless "you're an outsider to this world" things?

>>395546

My
>>>395159 (You)
>>>395413 (You)
Start seemed to be the correct one, I just hope there is nothing that screws me over, since I played it the whole day.

I play a porn game the whole day for the story and skipped most of the "porn" parts... wtf is wrong with me

>>395550
>or is it just one of those pointless "you're an outsider to this world" things?
Why pointless?

>>395621
If you just make the PC be from another world/time and don't do anything more with it, then it has no point in the story, and it dodges a lot of potential avenues for making the PC a character, and making the world feel cohesive. If you're going more with it, then fine, but almost every time I see it, it's just an excuse for the main character to go in knowing as little as (or, often, less than) the player.

>>395590

>I play a porn game the whole day for the story and skipped most of the "porn" parts... wtf is wrong with me

The same happened to me. The porn is nice, but it can't stop me from moving towards the next political target.

>>395383
pass the camp and have the same error more further

>>395228

Cypress, it keeps happening! >>395641

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>>395641
>>395652
Oh for fuck's sake.

I'll get this resolved in a while. I fired the guys that caused these issues but I'm still dealing with this bullshit even now, months later.

A new beta will probably be up tomorrow at the latest.

>>395667
>I fired the guys that caused these issues
I bet they were illegal mexicans. This will not happen once Trump is president.

>>395677
It's an internet project so it doesn't matter what side of the border people are on.

I played Overwhored a long time ago, and got to a desert before it ended. How much content does the game have now? There was a lot of little stems of incomplete features in the main castle at that time, is all that fleshed out now? Should I play the beta or just wait until final completion?

>>395691
About eight hours of gameplay. That was chapter three, there are seven chapters.

The beta is a beta for a reason, it's there to help me find the bugs I miss while making the game. The full, complete version of the game will be out in a few days. Probably Friday. You should wait until then if you want the full experience.

Then give me money. Because I like money. Also because it helps me make more games.

>>395694
Cool, I know what I'm doing next weekend.

>playing The Last Sovereign
>it's actually well written
Maybe it's not objectively amazing, but as a RPGmaker game, it keeps amazing me.

>>395751

It truly is the gift that keeps on giving.

>>395365
I fail to see how transferring to JavaScript is in any way an upgrade from Ren'Py.

>>395630
When have you seen that? Every time I've seen it used it's been to make the MC a Gary Stu. His basic knowledge in all modern fields makes him an ultra-genius in the medieval setting and such. It can be entertaining if done right, but it's usually just self-insert power trip nonsense.

>>395694
Why don't you implement a skip feature like all the Japanese RPGMaker games? It makes replaying sections more bearable and allows combat to go much faster because it doesn't play the animations.

>>396716
You're thinking of modern LNs. I was thinking of when it was popular in the west, a good long time ago now. I was also going for the more generous reason. The crown jewel of that older western paradigm would be Three Hearts and Three Lions; it is of far higher quality than the average story like that.

>>395313
I dont care about the rest of this conversation, but I'm gonna fuck that robot.

>>395688
Maybe Trump will also build a great Firewall?

>>395700
Giving Money?

>>396868
Hah! No.

>>395789
It runs in a browser, and thus should run on any handheld device.

>>396873
It already ran badly when made in Ren'Py. JavaScript would only compound this issue.

>>396880
Well, if they do programming stuff from sketch, they might optimize things. Its not like the game is really needy in terms of hardwere, so all problems were homemade.

>>395694

http://pastebin.com/raw/kc1hzBek

Use it please. It's 1 minute of "work" and will make the game way more pleasant to play.

>>396954
Seconding this.

>>395415
Those are just scribbles. The real meat will come with coloring and better inking (I hope I can manage to ink everything very thin, but I have my doubts). That will take hours and I'm already afraid of it.

I'm up to ~50 minutes of gameplay now and going into the endgame. Then, the troubleshooting will start. And adding things here and there. And some more interactions, because it's Telltale-style railroading right now.

The stock backgrounds will maybe stay. I have no idea how to make VN style backgrounds and can't find any info online.

Then again, it's just a test. I shouldn't bite off more than I can chew.

No pics because they would spoil many things right now. I did 5 new char images today, though. Let's see how many will sty.

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>>397305
>The stock backgrounds will maybe stay. I have no idea how to make VN style backgrounds and can't find any info online.
Wait, are VN backgrounds their own style? I've always thought that they were just genetic backdrops for the conversation.

>>397311
The only thing I can think of is that VN backgrounds (like the one youre linked) are much more detailed than what you normally see in say a manga, because they will be reused quite often.

>>397311
>Wait, are VN backgrounds their own style? I've always thought that they were just genetic backdrops for the conversation.
It's done in a certain style I have no idea how te replicate in a high fantasy setting.

>>397331
To be honest, you use your own character styles, that dont look anything like the standard japanese characters, so why should your background do?

Draw what you want, how you want it, but not when you want it, cause /weg/ is greedy and we want the game yesterday

does this general have any memes

>>397379
If you want memes go to /stg/

>>397379
Yeah. Someone tried to force the meme that female main characters are good.

>>396868

Paying for stuff? Oh oh oh, how quaint!

>>397305

Sounds great, man. Again, take your time.

Did Elona debug codes change?

Please tell me that you've extended the dialogue, there's isn't really anything else worth replying.

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>>397387

Korra was a pretty good anime though

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>>397379
got your memes right here.

>>397847
>Korra
>good
>anime
We've got a memester over here!

Anything I can play on my Android?

>>397856
Literally anything made with Twine. You people ask this almost daily and the answer never changes.

>>397860
Could you tell me some of the better games made with Twine?

>>396758
timeline was good shit.

>>397930
Check TFGamesSite, that's where most of them are.

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