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https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/adult-video

>StudioFOW has more Patrons, and makes more cash, then anyone else in either the adult video, or adult animation, sections of Patreon.

>>1672397
I really hope this is Mila getting fucked by the big bad wolf

>>1672397
They aren't going to make it by the end of the month are they.

>>1672360
There is absolutely no scene build here. It is just the Resident Evil Library map.

>>1672655
>https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/adult-video
Fow just doesnt deserve it i think

Selfdrill just released a small teaser for his upcoming release. and i gotta tell ya.................................OMG OMG OMG OMG its that damn good =D. makes fow look like total amatuers

>>1672316
she looked gorgeous on that pic. in the final vid u didnt even get to see her brest. i thought they dint even bother to model it but i guess insted they didnt feelt like ppl will want to see TITS in PORN VID.

>>1673690
That's because that model is begin done for a FUTURE video

the Isabella, Zelda, and Jessica rabit bj videos were all done as examples to see which one people would want the most.

After all of them were released, they held a poll, and Jessica won, so that is the one they are doing a full video for, and her nude model is for that video.

>>1672316
I just have to comment on how this is barely a preview, it's the model plonked in a pre-built room, no info whatsoever. That doesn't make me want to spend 10 bucks on it. Did it come with a description of what it's about.

>>1672655
That's pretty impressive, but also worrying in terms of future expansion. They might have reached saturation for their business in its current form.

>>1674511
If you give them 10 bucks, you won't get much. Most of their stuff eventually comes out for free. This is just a preview for Jessica Rabbit, probably getting gangbanged by blacks. When you give them money, you're not really paying for stuff, you're a patron supporting their work.

>>1672314
Snow bunny preview?

>>1672668
Where have you been?

>>1672655
Sure doesn't fucking show.

>>1674734

what is snow bunny?

>>1674600
>That's pretty impressive, but also worrying in terms of future expansion. They might have reached saturation for their business in its current form.
I don't really see that as worrying.

The fact they were able to get to nearly 35,000 dollars is fucking incredible. This wouldn't, and really couldn't, have happened even 7-8 years ago.

Out of all the various patreons in all adult categories, the only one who can be confirmed to make more then them are
-Fenoxo Fenfen(Game maker): $32,190
-Jessica Nigri(Cosplayer): $32K - $96K (est.)

The only other adult patreons that possibly make more then them are
-Sara Underwood: $4K - $37K (est.)
-LGBT: Liquor Guns Bacon and Tits: $4K - $32K (est.)
-Sakimi Chan: $12K - $43K (est.)
-SwimsuitSuccubus $7K - $33K (est.)

Yeah they might not be able t grow much furtherp ast what they are now, but when you are already in the top 3-5, there really isn't much left to go anyways.

>>1675744
They would need to recruit to expend but that would need two thing:
+ Find animator able to do the level of quality required and willing to do this as a full time job
+ DC stop being an asshole to them so they keep working with the studio.

And I am quite worried about the second things.

>>1675879
>+ Find animator able to do the level of quality required and willing to do this as a full time job
I think this would be the hardest thing DESU.

Most good SFM animators out there right now don't care for doing longer animations, and even many of the better ones have stopped posting as much because they got tired of it after doing it for so long.

Leeterr spends more time trash talking then he does actually animating at this point.

The only somewhat good SFM animations I can think of that do longer videos are Secazz and SelfdrillingSMS,

Secazz has his own Patreon thing going on, and Selfdrill mostly only does loli stuff.

>>1675921
secazz is fucking shit

>>1675977
While I agree, that really wasn't the point.

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soon

>>1672314
>Not your average smut
>More or less DAZ Studio shit

Sure

>>1676016
>find animator with quality
>get a bad quality animator
>wasnt the point

>>1672344
I can't believe they are keeping that shit Kasumi OC

SelfdrillingSMS "Until Gathered" teaser:
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Might as well post the missing WIPs

While we are waiting for the newest release to complain about, i was wondering:

/aco/, if your could selfishly chose a new project for StudioFow to work on, what animu/videa gaym/ movie would you chose and what kinks would it have?

i'd choose fallout with the standard variety of monsters

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>>1676288
I just wish they would hurry the fuck up with K3, Mai and Marie Rose movies, honestly.
It would be cool if they used different type of monsters too.
>>1672668
Pic related

>>1676309
as far as mai goes i have no idea what state that is in. what is realy dumb is DC calling each one project blah, project durp and so on. FFS just call them project mai, project marie rose and so forth ya know. no need for this fancy code name bullshit in order to sound professional. let folks know which one is exactly which

>>1676488
agreed, just call them what they are

>>1676488
It is the kind of bullshit that made me stop being a patreon. I don't expect to have VIP since they are the reward to make people pledge higher.
But for 5$ I expect to know the meaning behind the codename.

>>1676488
iirc it's a silly attempt to dodge the cease notices

>>1676288
Make Kunoichi 4 with Rachel. Call it something else if you want, but letting DOA5 Rachel go to waste is a fucking crime.

>>1676686
If we are realistic I don't see them last more than 2 years at best.

>>1676686
I think it's very obvious that she's next.

>>1676699
What?

>>1676714
There's nor«thing to indicate that. Especially since they already did a short with her with the same theme.

>>1676721
Then who will be in Kunoichi 4? Elisabeth? Nah, it's obviously her.

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>>1676724
There is no Kunoichi 4, though, it's just me wishing there was.

>Elisabeth

Heh that would actually be pretty nice, don't think her model even exists though.

>>1676735
>There is no Kunoichi 4, though, it's just me wishing there was.
My bet is that it will happen eventually.

>>1676716
At the speed they are burning animator, they will run out of manpower sooner later.

That is what I mean.

>>1676764
I think you're just trying to start porn drama, that's what i think. I don't follow that nonsense, i seriously doubt they are gonna vanish considering the amount of money they make and that no one else does similar work.

If Kunoichi 3 ends up not being on par with the previous 2 then i won't care if they are gone to be honest.

With all that money, they really need to update their DOA models

since i discovered selfdrill and took a look back at guys such as blood8407, snip and others i cannot support a patreon that swims in undeserved cash and lacks so much what other creators are so much better at providing

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>>1676048
pic related is more fitting
>>1676502
>It is the kind of bullshit that made me stop being a patreon.
Not the fact that they are getting lazy as fuck, they are releasing less stuff and the development is much slower than when they were getting less than 9000$ at month?
Or the fact that they are completely ignoring their stretch goals?
Or that they now think that patreons who pledge less than 50$ don't deserve shit?

>>1677147
DC definitely has no interest in or thanks for those who cannot donate as much for sure. the bulk of there cash comes from those willing to throw such large amounts of cashat them, and so they come first. DC cares about who gives him the most monmey for sure the greedy asshole

>>1676488
>project durp

Didn't know they were doing something based on ME: Andromeda.

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>>1676287
Man, just give me these three movies and fuck off studio shitshow

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>>1676686
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>>1676721
Judging by the first Kunoichi's ending, that was the plan, at least in origin.
So unless anything changes it was supposed to be Kasumi followed by Momiji, Ayane, Rachel and Elizebeth, hopefully they'll stick to it.
Probably Marie Rose and Mai are going to be part of the same series or at least the same universe judging by the WIPs, i hope that's indeed the case.
>>1676735
It would be awesome if it was revealed that she was the one behind everything, with the regent of the mask being only a henchmen, but his lust of power will cause him to betray her letting her being raped by her own demon army.
How does that sound?

damn Royal Treatment Zelda VA released an unused voice clip really make me wish it have won over the Jessica Rabbit one.

http://alternateanastasia.tumblr.com/post/164656778755/welcome-to-a-deleted-scene-from-the-royal

>>1677595
Why the VA always ends up being the worst part. I too would prefer zelda just because the models are more interesting. But soundwise it's going to be the same shit VAs, male grunts and 3 second sex sound loops they've been serving us all year.

>>1677595
It also gives an indicationt hat it was meant to have fucking in it after all

>>1677595
>>1677641
Could be an audition clip, they asked her to do. I'd be extremely surprised if the blowjob trilogy wasn't meant to be a trilogy from the begging and only happened because they dicided to rush Zelda just to trick us for more future paychecks.

>>1677663
I dont believe Dc one bit when he claims it was meant to be a trilogy. i recall quite well that sirens call was part of a trilogy of its own and in the next short isabella was gonna get gangraped by the pirates who captured her.

>>1677663
I can see DC doing that. Zelda's production value was clearly higher. I bet Jessica was picked only because it was a gangbang, her model it's just one of a busty redhead.

>>1672655
>StudioFOW has more Patrons, and makes more cash, then anyone else in either the adult video, or adult animation, sections of Patreon.
>>1675105
>Sure doesn't fucking show.
This
>>1673492
>Fow just doesnt deserve it i think
Absolutely not, with that amount of shekels they should have hired more people to work faster and release more movies every year.
Instead, they are losing animators and getting slow as fuck, with the quality dropping release after release.
People talk about Onagi, but i think that Vismund was their biggest loss, that guy is great, and seems that they don't care about finding a replacement.
They have less people now than when they started.
>>1675977
>secazz is fucking shit
And who's left?
I am sure SelfdrillingSMS doesn't give a shit about FOW (thankfully, as he would be a waste of talent) Noname55 earns enough by himself and i don't think he's interested in working for them, same for Ellowas, Leeterr apparently already turned down their offer...
Maybe Zal? Yobo? Cake of Cakes?

I can't beleive Selfdrilling has a pay after release model. The most honorable thing to do sure, but is it sustainable with those once every 4 months releases. Zone did the same and almost starved himself last time.

if you're really into the monster/beast thing, noname55 does everything fow does better

>but VO
all of fow's VO artists are fucking awful

>>1677798
It shouldn't matter anymore, 30k is about as high as they can go. A new animator would result in smaller cuts for the rest. And dispite us bitching about DC's horrible practises (rightfully so), they haven't affected their money influx at all. They are like EA.

>>1677834
Because he's a fucking winner and has a day-job. It's sustainable because it's still just a hobby for him.

I know Zone said he starved himself but not once for a moment did he ever say he depended on Hentaikey or his Patreon. Perhaps Ghostbusters ate up more time that he could've spent doing whatever real work he does, which is unfortunate, but the outward income streams we see from him are not what feeds him. Those things are entirely his tip jar for the most part. Whatever the fuck Zone does to keep him fed has nothing to do with his animations.

That's why SDSMS and Zone are fucking legit; they're not looking for the easy way out; they're not willing to do the stupid thing and go all-in on their animations - and because of that it ensures they can reliably produce quality without having to worry about cranking out a product to make sure they can pay rent. They have their priorities in order in life which means that the free time spent on their passions is full of just that, passion.

And that's why I throw money at both of them. They fucking deserve it. I threw money at moot too because he too deserved it for the same reasons.

>>1677639
um no they are awesome, at least the english ones.

i hate the japanese ones from the kunoichi series i hate japanese porn moaning whit a passion.

>>1677855
They could be the biggest shitheads in the community and I'd still probably throw some bones their way. Have you seen the animation in SDSMS newest film? It's astonishing.

>>1677855

Im just mostly curious what Hentaikey even offers beyond zone and some shoddy Sailor Moon pics from who knows

>>1677855
It's counterintuitive, being the best but not being able to live from it even when you have the full respect of the community. They wouldn't be who they are if they got 30k a month but it seems disproportionately unfair.

>>1677860
I'm going to wait until the whole things comes out.

I respect that they have ZERO community presence. They only do the most minimal interaction with the community which garners a ridiculous amount of respect from me. They only tell you what is relevant and that means the only people who care are people who care about the product. They don't need to hype anything or market anything, their strength is in their product and you can just admire how they value their privacy. No commissions, no begging, no useless posting on tumblr like StudioFOW does.

In short, they're not attention whores. And their community reflects well on that, you know that you are among people with similar good taste whereas with StudioFOW you are among people who have more money than taste.

>>1677875
Nothing, maybe it has to do with taxes and shit. Or he doesn't want to change because he doesn't need to, it's his place he never has to worry about setting up new ways of doing business.

>>1677834
His full reward tier is 10$ per release. For 10$ per month in fow you used to get a black and white pic and now literally nothing. Do you think we will some day learn that he is an veteran animator that has worked in a lot of major games. One of his latest post was about getting animated curtains in the next video. Animated curtains in an SFM porn vid, for fuck's sake.

>>1677879
It seems counterintuitive but to me it's more humble than anything else. A humble artist knows that the mob is fickle and one day someone better will probably come along. Internet employment is not like real employment; real employment your history matters even if you can just as easily get laid off tomorrow. I do my job because it's reliable; art and especially porn has never been reliable especially not when it comes to this sort of porn and how anybody with a brain can see the Internet is contracting under the weight of legal and political bullshit well out of our control. Even Zone has to fear that one day the fucking lawyers will come knocking on his door or the ISPs will fuck away Hentaikey or his streaming or Patreon because of a lack of net neutrality. And if/when that day comes, he will need whatever it is he has right now that keeps the lights on.

It's so important to never ever tell them that their product is the best. Are they the best? Yes, but I would rather not give them the opportunity to let that go to their heads. Why ruin a good thing. And one day, when they decide to quit, it will be on a high note and not because we burnt them out on their hobby.

>>1677875
I think it's loyalty and stability. He's been there so long and has a good working relationship that the benefits and complexities of "growth" do not justify changing.

So FOW is fucking dead now, right?

>>1678096
Not really but some anon point out that if this DC guy still act like a dick no one's gonna work with them anymore.

>>1677860
Iv seen the teaser selfdrill released and ....WOW it is fucking epic to say the least =D

The circlejerks in these FOW threads are fucking ridiculous. Unless a huge DMCA comes around, they'll still exist in 2 years and they'll earn even more then now.
Whats way more interesting... When is the Early Access for the Mila flick ready and is there going to be someone to leak it to us plebs?

>>1677891
>>1677921

Well Im asking less what ZONE'S getting out of it and more in the sense of How is HK even running? They have zone and that's literally fucking it.

I like Zone, I do but he doesn't really have the hugest amount of output to justify a monthly subscription so how is HK getting money?

>>1677798
Selfdrilling, Elowas and Leeterr probably aren't down on making rape as well. Hell if I look at Onagi's stuff he probably didn't enjoy making rape or monster stuff either given how his stuff tends to be vanilla with maybe a slight bit of femdom here and there.

>Cake of Cakes
Dude uses Blender and with Fow's apparant refusal to switch he'd be downgrading his quality. Same as Ellowas. Also most likely not down for rape too. And he enjoys some sweet bucks from Overwatch stuff, which would be a no go if he works for Fow.

>>1675977
He's ok, but not outstanding.

>>1677663
And it'll get blown out if the water by some no name Zelda porn animator.

>>1676260
You know, I can dig that because they are roughly in the same age range.

Which animators have left FOW and why? Is it the usual internet drama?

>>1678385
Snip left and shut down his tumblr for reasons no one is sure of.

Vsmnd left and stopped animating, but hasn't implied it weas becuase of drama or anything, simply that he got tired of doing it.

Onagi left because D.C. felt like he wasn't complying the shit he was supposed to, nor that was it was of particularly good quality, and bitch him out for it.

>>1678371
Leeterr doesn't even do longer animations, and I doubt he would hold up while attempting.

>>1676018
I'm jealous of that werewolf

>>1676272
Damnit DasBoSchitt. All i can hear is arguments between LP and Phil from youtube avenue with this.

>>1678426
Hasnt been like two or three years since he posted anything?

>>1678262
>pedo uses =D all the time
how predictable

>>1677847
>noname55 does everything fow does better

>5 second loops

How about you fuck off instead?

As usual this thread is filled with people bitching but providing no alternative and shilling for shit that has progressed past the first days of SFM.

>>1678554
*has not

>>1678414
you have no idea how animations work right?

>>1678560
>He doesn't understand the different between maintaining constancy in a single shot 2 second loop, and trying to do the same for a many shot 30 minute video

>>1678578
take a few hours for a 5 second loop
take hours multiplied by time
whats so hard to understand?

if someone fucks this up then its his own fault for not being consistent

>>1678583
and for wanting to end it as soon as possible

>>1676686
I'd be ecstatic if Rachel got her own movie with humanoids fucking her in bondage scenes. I loved the raffle they did of her.

>>1678637
I'd pay if it wasn't rape/mindbreak with Rachel and she just wanting to get fucked.

>>1677854
>30k is about as high as they can go. A new animator would result in smaller cuts for DC, who grabs all the money despite being the one who doesn't do shit
Here, ftfy
>And dispite us bitching about DC's horrible practises (rightfully so), they haven't affected their money influx at all. They are like EA.
Saying they are like EA is overestimating them, but honestly, if i was a patreon and i heard them saying shit like:
>"Remember when we said K3 was going to be released in 2017? Well, the movie will be affected by a "little" delay of ONE FUCKING YEAR."
Or:
>"Remember when we reached the "moar power" that was supposed to make us work faster and release more stuff? or when we said tha with the Raffles gone we would focus on movies and release them sooner? Well, we lied"
Or even:
>"Who pledges less than 50$ won't get shit anymore, if you want the priviledge of gazing these "beautiful" black and White raw screenshots you'll have to give us more money"
At that point i would surely say "What the fuck i am paying for, then?" and stop supporting them altogether.
They are taking their patreons for granted and abusing their generosity, and while some fanboys would still be there (blind loyalty is a symptom of stupidity after all) i am sure many others would think the same as i do.
It's really a shame, because the original idea of FOW was pretty cool: gathering a Group of talented animators who previously worked on few seconds loops to develop full movies, but greed and DC's pompous douchebaggery ruined everything.

>>1678285
should be up sometime today as they said it would be 3-4 days before release

>>1678554
They do rape which is rare enough. There is no alternative. The point isn't to kill FOW, I don't want it to die, their content is still better than what each animator would do on their own. I just want to give them a strong kick in the nuts so they go and reconsider their horrible ways. Maybe if we get FOW back to 20k they wake up and start taking things seriously again. And if they don't lower still.

>>1678994
>should be up sometime today as they said it would be 3-4 days before release
Let's hope some benevolent anon will show up

>>1678554
yeah it's not like fow just does static loops and swings the camera all over the place to pretend they don't, while making walk cycles that would get you laughed out of a freshman 3D course

>>1675879
>+ Find animator able to do the level of quality required and willing to do this as a full time job
Because DC paying like shit, that ain't gonna happen.

>>1678554
>>5 second loops
thats what the typical FOW release is made up of, 9-10 5 second loops with different camera angles, at least noname55 has a steady flow of content and does VR renders, where is FOW's promised VR releases?

So is the Mila movie already out on their Patreon?
Anyone know?

>>1679423
Not as far as I can see. Starting to doubt it will be released today

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>>1679450
Thanks for the answer man, much appreciated!
>>1676172
>I can't believe they are keeping that shit Kasumi OC
Same here, looks horrible, she doesn't even look like kasumi at all, i wish they gave her original body and hair back, but it's probably too late for that sadly, such a stupid decision on their part.

>>1679450
Yeah dont get your hopes up, i'd say tuesday or even wednesday.

>>1679516
their lack of communication on things like this is really annoying

>>1679522
DC is a tight ass and easily offended when stuff gets leaked so dotn expect much commuunication unless you pay the 100 or more patreon fee xD hehe

>>1678382
Christ I feel old. Who are 'they'?

I wouldn't get worked up about shit getting done on time. It's not like they have a shipping schedule and a logistics system to maintain. It gets released when it's ready and if someone wants to get a blowjob in the middle of the project and delay it by a week then fine, it's not like the audience takes times off work to enjoy the product or anything. I wouldn't want or expect these content creators to maintain constant communication either because that's just a waste of fucking time for the most part. They're getting paid to get the job done and giving constant status updates if one of the many reasons why nothing gets done in this fucking world; sure it's important to set benchmarks and discipline yourself to keep to a schedule, but we're talking about "art" here; why rush it?

The problem is, when it finally is released if it's a steaming pile of dogshit you should be asking not if all that extra time was wasted, but why they felt this was worthy to release at all. I mean, if after delay after delay it's STILL shit then you just know they have no goddamn standards to begin with and you shouldn't give them your money ever again.

I guess what I'm saying is, it can take forever for anything to come out, but if it's good it's worth it.

In this case, it's often just bad. For most of StudioFOW's stuff I would have utterly redone all the voice work in all their videos and even after the third redo I would probably still have to do another three. Their voice actors fucking suck.

>>1678412
VIsmund did have some sour times with DC while working for fow, but he did leave because of his own personal reasons for sure. he wanted to focus more on his own work and apparently DC was and still is salty about it lol. we all know the story with onagi, but snip is a damn mystery. his patreon is still going, but he hasnt uploaded anything since last year, and his vanishing from FOW has yet to be solved

>>1679684
This is what I like the most. You know he's aware people are leaking FOWs shit and there isn't anything he can do about it.

>>1679916
>For most of StudioFOW's stuff I would have utterly redone all the voice work in all their videos and even after the third redo I would probably still have to do another three. Their voice actors fucking suck.
Don't remind me about all that shitty dindu "commentary" in scarlet nights, that was completely avoidable and useless, i am sure everyone will agree that nobody wants to hear any kind of commentary done by men during porn, kind of ruined the whole thing.

>>1679916
Even in a perfect world where FOW made the best movies, I'd still want exact dates of when shit is coming out. They get paid by the month. If they announce today that Mila is delayed to mid September, I want to know not to pay them for August. I'm not giving any money on dead months.

>>1679978
That's fair. I think the monthly payment system is dogshit, it incentivizes them to make up bullshit about why things are running late and we have no means to make them accountable to that.

When I support Zone, I only send him a chunk of cash when he releases something. Only retards support these artists on a blind monthly basis like this. And you're right, if they maintain a consistent release schedule, they will deserve monthly payment; but if they don't, fuck them. But then, consumers are complete idiots and don't realize that this business model is out to fuck them.

I just don't want to ever put the pressure on them to have exact release dates if having exact release dates means they have to compromise on quality. People in general are lazy, but I'll allow them some slack if they deliver on the quality.

>>1678816
>and while some fanboys would still be there

This is more of a general statement but what I for the life of me can't understand what goes through a fanboys mind when they continue to support a company or person that's clearly been fucking them for ages now. Doesn't matter if it's Fow, Capcom, Nintendo whomever, how do you not say enough is enough

>>1676274
Oh
Oh
OH THAT IS BULLSHIT

Trash talks Aaardvark and uses HIS FUCKING MODEL. With Elizabeth you could hide behind the lie of altering the model or using something else but this is isn't even hiding the fact. That is straight up Aardvark's model.
I'm also pissed that they can come up with a Jessica Rabbit model but still use Sarah Bryant cosplaying Samus.

Fuck

>>1680133
>use Sarah Bryant cosplaying Samus
Just in general, I'm a little baffled this became a thing. It's so completely at odds with how every other single character with a model across the SFM community has been handled, I really don't know how it came about. Is it drama shit? Cause it feels related to drama shit.

>>1680098
Because nobody does any thinking. You ask people why they like something and they'll give you either no answer or an answer that isn't backed up by anything besides the lowest common denominator criteria. You ask people why they hate anything and the answers are similar.

Even in the world of art there is some objectivity to criticism. There are very clearly agreeable and objective statements that can be made about why something is good or bad. The problem is that most people just are too fucking stupid to care.

And when it comes to shit that beat your meat to, people spend even less time thinking about that because our society has degenerated sex as something to be ashamed of, which means it "deserves" even less critical consideration than most other things they neglect to think about. People are just lazy shits who consume and consume and don't give a moment's thought to what they just consumed afterwards. Look at all the morons who just have to go watch a movie every weekend; they don't care what they watch; only that they did it and the only real joy they get out of it is being able to tell other people they did it.

You can almost forgive companies for churning out garbage product over and over again because the market research clearly shows it's what people want. Either nobody admits to it or the research doesn't go that deep, but the reason why people want it is because the vast majority of people are idiots. They can't say enough is enough because their lives are black and white, there are not varying degrees of good or bad just plainly one or the other.

Straight up real talk, 4chan is probably the last place on the entire Internet where you have half a chance of encountering someone who can express an opinion and back it up with evidence.

>>1680144
The reason this model is used so frequently is because it's the only well made Samus model fit for porn. There's only been two Samus models created in the last 5 years, more maybe, and of them one comes from a Wii game and the other is not suited for porn at all despite being a well made model.

The problem I have is that FOW has gone on record, I've even asked them questions on this subject, to shit on Aardvark's models and lie about their use. With Elizabeth, despite clearly lieing, it was a believable lie because of how many Elizabeth models were out there at the time.

There is literally only one Sarah Bryant cosplaying as Samus model out their and it is pratically a signature of Aardvark's work at this point and while I don't care about whether or not Aardvark is a good person, Fow should atleast revoke their trashing of Aardvark if they're gonna use his model. Otherwise they look even more like pieces of shit now than before, not that that's been hard for them.

>>1680144
Samus was announced a year or so ago now, and it is still being worked on. a rpime example of DC not keeping track of things and getting distracted by ideas as always. he unreliable for certain

>>1680175
I wonder if we'll get a better model when the new Prime hits.

>>1680219
Samus getting out of her suit has been a completion bonus thing since day 1. I'd be shocked if there isn't a ZSS model in Prime 4.

>>1680175
>The reason this model is used so frequently is because it's the only well made Samus model fit for porn. There's only been two Samus models created in the last 5 years, more maybe, and of them one comes from a Wii game and the other is not suited for porn at all despite being a well made model.
But I mean, surely this has been true of other models? It's not like I haven't seen Palutena SFM floating around. I know I've seen other posts about "such and such model was a real bitch, modeler X over here released an updated version of something." I also know there's characters that simply don't get used because they're such a bitch to work with and no one's fixed them for SFM.

So I'm just confused as to what, exactly, has led to Samus being the odd one out to just take some other character, cosplay them up, and call it a day? Did someone just do it first and everyone sort of shrugged and went good enough? I also feel like I recall this FOW/Aardvark drama, with FOW shitting on it and having their own model. Did that stop being a thing too?

>>1680387
I'm sure Samus isn't the first scenario where source game models weren't fit for porn but what you described is basically exactly what happened. Aardvark made a model, nothing else is better, and it's a good enough model.
I imagine once Prime 4 comes out and a new Samus model is available it'll replace Aardvark's (unless he himself ends up being the one making the model for porn.)

There's also the fact that most of Palutena's porting work was done by a guy called Taco so when Aardvark was comissioned to make a porn model for her he simply used a lot of the framework Taco had made and Samus from the same game never got that treatment by any of the other SFM porters for a long time and by that point nobody cared enough to alter the model for porn.

It is a very weird scenario seeing as Samus is one of the most porn drawn characters out there, but it's always been a matter of how much work has been done for a Samus model SFM port. Fate just had it where it was never in the cards and that Aardvark, who would be the most likely one to make a Smash 4 porn Samus, is disinterested in doing anything with the Smash 4 version of Samus.

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Funny thing is aardvark updated his model to correct make up and add new hair. So not only are they using his model but an old version too.

>>1680466
At this point all I'm really paying attention to from FOW is their Samus movie (which I'm extremely de-hyped about learning they're using Aardvark's model) and the Mai spin-off. Anything else I watch will be stuff that looks interesting after ignoring them for a long ass time and remembering them and wondering to see what they've done, only to see they've done a dog fucking movie, some flash shorts, and some of those 30 second shorts with 1 movie coming in about half a year. And then I'll rinse and repeat.

>>1680484
turn your attention to the other animators out there that are worth a damn. FOW is a lost cause with a arrogant unorganized mess at the helm of it. i have zero enthusiasm for what they do or have in the pipe line simply because i do not trust DCs ability to keep on track, to his word and organized with allt he so called fancy code nammed projects he wants to add tot he list. i will check em out for curiousity sake, but code valentine was the last straw. waited a long damn time for that and it was attocious, absolutely worthless

>>1680503
Yeah this thread has definitely opened my eyes to how lazy Fow is. Not the animators, god knows how much time and effort that takes, but the people/person running it. You have nearly $30,000 a month and you can't even pay your animators enough money to continue working for you? Whoever is in charge is clearly looking at the short term because anyone with a fucking brain knows that building your company gradually, hiring more and more talent over time, steadily increasing your content output, thus increasing your company's value thus your financial support from backers, means long term longevity and profit.

If anyone at Fow running it had a goddamn brain in their head they could see themselves potentially becoming entirely independent and making completely original content.

But no the assholes running it have zero foresight and obliterate their reputation by having several of their animators leave on bad terms.

Fow has extreme potential and it's being wasted, which is the most frustrating part of all of this. It's one thing to be a scummy person running a company, it's another for that company to have huge unprecedented potential.

I hope things improve for them in the future but my attention on them is going to be primarily focused on topics like these whenever they pop up every now and then just to see if anything's changed for the better.

I mean if Sonic can get Sonic Mania anything is possible.

So is Scarlet Nights Episode 2 ever coming out?

>>1680626
It'll be 30 seconds of animation stretched into a 10 minute 'feature'.

>>1680626
2020 i bet. knowing how terrible DC is at keeping on top of things lol

>>1680466
I was shocked at how much better Lard's hair weighting and spring physics is. LA is a retard, but he's improving a lot faster than DC is.

>>1678560
Extending loops isn't as easy as you'd think. The problem is that you're tempted to copy loops and just use Motion Editor to add variety, but this still ends up looking unnatural. You've got to do that shit in Graph Editor and make all the frames work together. It's not a trivial exercise.

>>1678371
Blender is way better than SFM, but you would have to be a masochist to use it for a longer piece.

>>1678262
The trailer is a bit shit. The final product will be awesome, but the animation segments are too short to show how good an animator sdsms is. I spent weeks looking into how sdsms did what he does and I can't believe that he spends less than five hours a day on his shit. Still, I can't get off on kids fucking kids, and I'm a degenerate.

>>1680721
the teaser is meant to be just that. he does not want to give too much away and it was easy to just cut together a few scenes for a small taste for the patreons and pixiv folks with only a few days left for release. selfdrill is without question the best SFM animator there is. simply because he CARES A LOT about the smallest of details and thus he will find ways to make things work. he cares about scene design, setting, lighting, a small but easy to follow story, camera angles, and his sound work is absolutely unmatched. like i said, he is a guy who realy does enjoy what he does and for that i hold him in very high regard =)

>voice acting
Genuinely curious, but what do the people dissatisfied with the current voicework want to be different in future projects, specifically? For examples of what I actually did like, the voicework in the Rachel raffle where she's spitroasted by the orcs, and the Morrigan Aensland one where she deepthroats that huge demon, both of which were SaturnGarnet's stuff. I liked the Morrigan from Dragon Age raffle also, and I think ZeroDiamonds is well matched to Harley, although I thought that movie was wasted potential especially the stupid dog scene. I liked her voicework in the Fiora flash game too.

What I disliked was the hentai-styled voice acting from Kunoichi, that sounded so typical and grating just like JAV actresses do. They sound like mewling cats. It's so stupid that it actually distracts me from the fucking. Also >>1679967 mentioned when there's males commenting during the sex scene, I absolutely hate that as well.

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Who has the latest WIP.

>>1680721
>Blender is way better than SFM, but you would have to be a masochist to use it for a longer piece.
What's the problem using regular 3D software for longer pieces ?

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>>1680721
>I can't get off on kids fucking kids, and I'm a degenerate.
So you mean those kids need an adult. Is that it?

>>1681578
Render times out the ass of course. And just in general work flow is longer since the program is more flexible you might have a lot of manual work to do.

Hoping for a release tonight, anything else would be a fucking joke. 2 days early access is a minimum for 20 bucks.

>>1680549
>But no the assholes running it have zero foresight and obliterate their reputation by having several of their animators leave on bad terms.
The only one who left on bad terms was Onagi, and even he admitted he wasn't able to keep up with their production schedule.

>>1681587
I half agree about the rendertime : you're free to use any renderer and not necessary the one provided by the software. So you can use a faster one if needed.

About the workflow, I completely disagree. You said it's slower to use a regular software because of the manual work but in SFM, those "manual work" is inexistent only because that part was done by the model maker. Provide me any model on Blender, 3DS or Maya and you won't have more trouble than in SFM.

Also, if the model screw up :
- In SFM, you can just cry, beg for an updated model or just deal with that by doing limitation
- In regular software, you can resolve the problem and continue your project.

Once again, SFM is widely used only because a lot of rule 34 models are available here.

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>>1680133
>>1680144
>>1680175
>>1680212
>>1680219
>>1680239
>>1680387
>>1680429
>>1680466
>>1680484
StudioFow should ask Firebox studio to lend them his Samus model, i mean look at this, at least THIS IS SAMUS and not Sarah Bryant cosplaying as her.

>>1681689
iirc they uploaded Nightmare: Code Valentine for patreons ONE DAY before public release. It wouldn't suprise me if StudioJEW keeps their supporters waiting untill the very end

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>>1672668
if any1 is into big bad wolfs u can check it out;
https://theredseven.tumblr.com/LustMoonMain

>>1681856
No bulge, guro, not my type of thing. Keep working on it son, you got plenty of room to improve and build your audience.

>>1681700
The production schedule is DCs fault. having so many projects on the go with limited staff and his over enthusiasm to crank out more content is absolutely absurd. His foolishness and lackluster managament has brought cost FOW what ever reputation they had

>>1681352
The jaoanese hentai voices are easy to shrug off because they sound in line with the japanese centered characters, its to be expected. the issue folks whave with many of thE VA is the overally ''porn'' attitude the ladies portray. having a popular character from a video game talk with the voice of an overally tanned street skank from reality kings is EXTREMELY off putting. i think many would like to hear a good portrayal of the character to the best of their ability and not switch to a typically annoying pornstar tone. i persoanlly hate it

>>1681907
there is small buldge actually (visible even in gif i linked), and guro is just option beside vanilla one.

then again the whole point of wolf motive is that bitch is being eaten. happy ending is human fairy tale. btw i find Jin-Roh shading underwhelming.

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>>1681576
>interracial garbage

>>1682003
It's probably Zack anyway. He's kind of the to go to guy when it comes to fucking Helena or Tina, despite him having Nikki.

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>>1681813
Does he have a "young samus" model too?
That was probably the only good thing to come out of Other M.

>>1681983
>has brought cost FOW what ever reputation they had
Really? because most people I've seen outside here still like them because they fulfill the rape/bestiality niche they became popular on.

>>1682039
Isn't Zack always used because he always "wins" the DoA tournament since the girls always forfeit their title for whatever reason?

I think Helena has like forfeited the title to him like 3 times by now.

>>1679916
i find kunoichi voice acting is very belivable/well done. high pitch screaming may be annoying to some but beside that its adult/low tone female voice that does not sound like a 15 year old web cam whore or tired, 50 year old woman who cant act for shit; their english voice actors suck horribly.

>>1682095
Not really.
DOA1 Kasumi won and killed Raidou, but was then captured by Donovan, but she was the official winner.
DOA2 Hayabusa won, but the title went no one so the the third DOA3 was staged.
Ayane defeated Genra, but the title went to Helena.
And Helena also won in 4 but gave her title to Zack. So he only 'won' once.
And in 5 he worked for Helena and didn't really participate, and the official winner of the 5th tournament is Jann Lee.

>>1682098
In Kunoichi 1 they also used a japanese voice because Kasumi's VA used to do hentai game voice acting and they could use sound samples from that.

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>>1682043
Not as far as i am aware.
>>1677025
>i cannot support a patreon that swims in undeserved cash and lacks so much what other creators are so much better at providing
Exactly, like >>1679009 mentioned, they would need to loose some money in order to wake the fuck up and get their shit together, so far they are getting too complacent, thinking it's the patreons that owe them something and not the other way around.
>>1680098
You see anon, in the past i wondered this just like you are doing now, the truth is, that sometimes we need to accept the fact the some people are just stupid, there's not always a reason for what they do and say, and when you try to reason with these idiots and point them the wrongs of their choices they will start screeching and spouting their non-arguments like "muh hate!" and similar crap, because like >>1680156 said they can't even reason nor rationalize their choices, proving once again their passive existence and complete stupidity.
>>1680156
>You can almost forgive companies for churning out garbage product over and over again because the market research clearly shows it's what people want
I disagree, people's taste is completely manufactured, pic related.
>>1680156
>Either nobody admits to it or the research doesn't go that deep, but the reason why people want it is because the vast majority of people are idiots. They can't say enough is enough because their lives are black and white, there are not varying degrees of good or bad just plainly one or the other.
I agree with this.

Still no word about the early acces

>>1682366
They are probably going to release it only one day before, because they know that otherwise someone is going to leak it earlier anyway.
>>1679684
>>1676502
>>1674600
>If you give them 10 bucks, you won't get much.
>>1677257
>DC definitely has no interest in or thanks for those who cannot donate as much for sure. the bulk of there cash comes from those willing to throw such large amounts of cashat them, and so they come first. DC cares about who gives him the most monmey for sure the greedy asshole
>>1677917
>For 10$ per month in fow you used to get a black and white pic and now literally nothing.
So does DC think this is the right strategy?
Now they are really pushing it, does he really think that those 10$ patreons will say "since i am not getting shit anymore for 10 bucks, i am going to give them 50$ from now on"
Or maybe those people will get pissed and stop giving them money at all?
I'd say the latter.
DC seems the kind of idiot that would say "why selling a bag of chips for 1$ when we could sell them for 100$ each and make more money?" and think is a good idea.

>>1680466
aardvark hasnt made any public update to samus in over a year.

>>1682003
Youre probably one of those vanilla guys who just want some soft, hand holding sex anyway

aka your opinion doesnt matter.

>>1682448
>being this assblasted
You are probably a jew
aka you should get inside a gas chamber

>>1682475
>person who is assblasted pointing out other people who are also assblasted

Hah, would ya look at that.

Fucking hell they said early access would be 3-4 days before release, but by this point i'm assuming it'll be tomorrow.
Fuck DC

>>1682588
I'm in no way accusing you of lying, but where did you get that information? It's just because it would be hilarious to compare their given date(s) vs. how long it actually ends up taking

>>1682614
https://www.studiofow.com/movie/11
Release date august 31.
I'm a patron and on their mila poster patreon post they said early access would be 3-4 days

>>1682626
I also upped my pledge to 20 dollar because by the time the official release is out I'll be gone for a couple of weeks for work and won't have access to internet. (or at least barely)
So I'm hoping fow didn't screw me over

>>1682614
You know what they'll do right, they are people like >>1682640 who pledge in (sorry mate) a dumb way. If they release before August 31st some might withdraw payment for August and still get Mila early. They won't release shit till all August money (which are definitely boosted) are in their pockets. My bet is that they will blame it on the torrent service or something like that.

>>1682654
They use charge up front so they are certain they get all of the money from August

>>1682661
Ok, so people payed for August on the 1st is that what you mean? So their waiting for September 1st?

>>1682670
StudioJew at it again

>>1682679
Can it be more Jewy. Could they change it to bimonthly without anyone noticing?

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>>1682679
I am really starting to wonder if this DC guy is actually a jew, i mean all the symptoms are there...

no early realease? wtf fuck you DC ...

>>1682799
he has no set method of early release. he does it as he sees fit. again, the boy has no sesne of keeping on track of things at all

this not fair,because we pay for an early realease...this is a BIG F..YOU :(

It says 90% complete in their website

>>1682868
Again. DC is crap at keeping track. he only updates that once its released and then he claims its complete. even though it was complete a few days earlier most likely lol

>>1682868
>It says 90% complete in their website
I don't think that means anything to be honest, i am sure it's already done and ready since weeks, if not months ago.

DC----->DARK CUNT?

That's fucked up for those who paid for early access. And if he's scared of people leaking, there's always gonna be 1 regardless. I mean it's internet what does he expect? Everybody to be honest?

WE PAID...and for what? for a big fuck you ?

>>1682900
"stop leaking my shit you ungrateful bastards! only i can be dishonest!"
-DC, 2017

so no early acces?

for people that are honest..is not ok , we paid from our money and for what?

Put some lipstick on to look pretty before you get fucked

Are we sure it's not out yet? Isn't it early access only for those that are 50+$?

>>1683094
Nope 20. Fow royally fucked me.
This is the last time I will ever give them money

Fow is going to blame the person who leaked the WIP's for this, mark my words.

>>1683141
Better they will report it next month. To punish everyone.

>>1683141
No way you piss off 4k paying people because 50 anons in 4chan will get to see it too. He is going to claim ignorance. 4 days early-1 day early same thing.
Out of those 4k how many of them will see it on pornhub a week later, and be surprised to remember that they are actually paying.
Please paying anon tell us how many regular responses their patreon polls get, this is going to be the rough estimate of how many people are actively waiting for it right now.

>>1683183
>>1683161
>>1683141
Or maybe DC will release it to the public in 4 days and claim the 31 august date was for early acces.
Either way the lack of communication is unforgivable. The latest post I have seen him answer on patreon was about 20 hours ago. People have been asking about the early access for a couple of days and none have gotten an answer

considering donating to the patreon is to show "support" rather than pay for content (as far as i know everything is free eventually) I see a lot of crying...

>>1683289
Yes you pay to show your support so the person making the content makes more of it. Not to pay for DC's frivolous lifestyle, and less content. And how does paying for something before it's out make sense you don't know if it's good enough to justify your support?
When he says that 20$ will get you something early and they don't, or that 30k would mean a lot more high quality movies and that doesn't happen, then you are straight up being scammed.

>>1683345
THIS
some people are just so fucking dense baka

They are making 30k a month that's not "I need them to pay my rent"-money that's "I can pay for Mila's actual VA to work for me"-money. FOW is a money black hole.

>>1683345
I'd say there have been more animations since the drop of the monthly raffles considering the releases are longer... It's not the 31st yet. The types of animations in the past should be more than enough to base the type of content you can expect. If you don't trust him, don't pledge.

>>1683369
>I can pay for Mila's actual VA to work for me
Is she that cheap?
And are we talking about english or japanese one?

>>1683376
Tom Kenny makes 75k per spongebob episode, 2 months of cash for FOW, either of them is definitely affordable.

>>1683401
Except that's 2 months of pay for JUST the VA

>>1683406
Yes but we are talking about Tom fucking Kenny, not Ryoko ShiraishiI whose biggest TV role was Beautifly in pokemon.

>>1683411
She got a pretty long list here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryoko_Shiraishi
And lookie there she just so appeared in a game that turned out to be insanely popular too.

>>1683433
She apears ~140th in the voiceacting site, Tom Kenny is 14th, if the pay scales linearly that's a 10:1 relation, putting her in the 7.5k range. Let's be super generous and go with a price of 20k (which is a lot for a simple VA for a 1h session). Fow makes 360k and tops 2 voice actor worthy movies a year. That is again super generously 1/6 of their budget going to sound. That is not that insane. Imagine what would happen if they announced that Mila's voice actor is working for FOW, their 30k would double overnight.

>>1683507
Maybe. But why hire an actress when you can just use already existing voice samples like they did with Kasumi in Kunoichi 1.

>>1683532
Return investment. Also I just used the example to point out how much of their money doesn't seem to go anywhere.

>>1683541
True. I wonder how much of the money goes to the animators.

>>1683541
I don't like to make assumptions. I can see a point in not knowing where money is spent and wanting to know where it goes though.

Fow peaked with the Sophitia loop, it was dowhill from there.

>>1683541
>I just used the example to point out how much of their money doesn't seem to go anywhere.
>>1683553
>I can see a point in not knowing where money is spent and wanting to know where it goes though.
I willing to bet the animators are currently paid 1000/1500$ at month, 500$ per movie to the VAs and the rest all goes to JewishCrow who doesn't do shit.
STUDIOJEW - Not your average SCAM

I dont believe DC does throw the money on any lavish luxuries at all, but he does rely on it for his rent no doubt. its not the money they make that has so many dislike DC, its his typical elite arrogance of ''im mr professional because i built up a small online smut brand and have people to pay''. its as if what he and yagskie started was impossible for others. i say. BULLSHIT, your first one (lara in trouble) was a brave attempt and had its chamr at the time, and JUST BY SHEAR LUCK you managed to gain a following and gather enouugh money through patreon donations to afford voice actresses , more full time animators and so forth, but that doesnt mean you get to put yourself on a pedistal and behave like a cunt just because you dont like it when the internet disagrees with you or perhaps has some valid points about how to improve your movies, or you cannot handle the trolls when they nit pick like crazy at you. and with other animators out there who have far less capital coming in but are able to push out more content, treat all their patreons as valid donors and in a humble manner, as well as do much better work then your piss poor excuse for ideas, the folks have earned all the right to slag you down DC.get off your fucking high horse and improve on the content, not slack off because the dedicated FOWlings will continue to pander regardless.

>>1683614
I mean... That shit adds up PER animator and PER voice actor. (Multiple projects being done at a time so it's not just for the "current" project) Dealing with lawyers ect... Why assume things? Unless you see where the money goes all you can do is guess... Just as I am now.

>>1683638
I do agree he can act like a dick but at the same time I don't know how much I agree with other animators pushing out more content of the same quality. 10 second loops vs 15 minute movies and such. But hey, point me in the direction of others who do cuz i'd love that shit.

>>1683664
Well for me length is not a problem. id rather see fow do shorter more frequent stuff then have such long movies that have dumb idea plots and are just a waste of resource. selfdrillsms is one guy you should check out for sure

>>1683693
Cool, I'll check it out. And yeah I don't personally care much for the plots, stupid or not but I can understand how it adds to the atmosphere for some.

>>1683664
I feel like FOW falls into that particular range of they're not the best at anything, but they're adequate to good in the categories people want all at once. There's better animators, but they are perhaps not as long. There's animators who make longer movies, but perhaps not as well. There's sound people, but perhaps not for as involved of a story, for as porny as these stories are. There's better monster porn or who release faster, but perhaps not with all the other things I listed. So FOW has all those things at a level that's good enough, if not actually good, for people, so it goes. I really think it is just, good enough animation for a short length film release.

I have really bad taste and a bad eye for animation, so I couldn't really point out much better in a bunch of categories. Nor do I think I care as much, so I don't really remember them as much. Beastlyj0e just popped up for me again as a guy who's been doing the monster stuff for awhile that always seemed pretty good to me. For me, personally, what gets me was when I hadn't yet figured out the best way to keep up with their content I had to trawl through their tumblr. And whomever was running their "FOW-chan" PR mascot bullshit just came across as an asshole. I couldn't even think of a reason why anything they did was really a problem to be rustled about, but it just struck me as annoying and not really what I wanted to have to be going through to just get to their content. I guess it seemed to much like PR bullshit, and I have a bug up my butt about fake female mascots, so the whole endeavor didn't work for me.

Wouldn't it make more sense to scale down on the number of large simultaneous project developments and just focus on one or two, making sure the animation team is happy along with the voice actresses? Course there's always the possibility you need a replacement animator if you get an Onagi, if their claims are true. But their patrons would see constant progress and updates that way, less dubious what the money's being used for.

If they did this wouldn't that mean a more steady output of releases? I'm all for shorter clips too as some have mentioned, I liked those raffles and miss them. So much wasted potential there on scenarios they can make, for many characters. For instance the Jill vanilla sex scene, that's so out of place in a large dark themed movie like that, but it would have been alright as a small animation side-story for some variation for vanilla fans. If they did that it would free up the large movies to be fully dark like what drew us in the first place. Though if memory serves part of the reason raffles are over with is because of how they had to legally change their Patreon billing methods. I may be wrong on that. But even if they're not specifically raffles, there's a place for shorter animations with sound and voice but less overarching plot. A brief scenario writeup to go with the short animation would be enough.

>>1681813

They never going to get it. Also, since their claims that they improve upon Aardvarks models are clearly bullshit, they don't have anybody to convert firebox models to sfm.

>>1681813
Man that looks so GOOD. Her shoes are of that improbable stripper heel variety but her body proportions look so right. And the hair/face obviously.

>>1683778
I think your second paragraph explains your first. They're trying to balance a variety of series that draw the widest audience, but since they're known for their long length releases they want to focus on those too. I agree with you about not liking this change in their production focus, but that's just how I see the gears turning their head. I don't think it's a good idea, and room to be more cynical about it, but that's just how it is, I guess.

>>1683571

Mah nigga.

>>1683798
I mean, right?
If we could have a Metroid movie with that model it would be awesome, i can't see how even a Metroid hardcore fan could be excited for that Sarah Bryant meme model.

>>1682882
>Now it's 99%.
Time to see if there's any delivery to the early access anons.

>>1683905
*presses the F5 button repeatedly*

>>1683778

It's simple. If they release early on that they're working on say a Samus project then Samus fans will jump in early and they can milk them longer by feeding a vague status percent bar and get more patreonbucks while they crap out their other videos

it's not about quality or release it's about getting as much money as possible for as long as possible

>>1682448
>>1682475
>Assblasted faggots arguing over race on an sfm porn thread

Hopefully it gets released tonight... If the 31. is supposed to be the Early Access release date i might just ask Ganon to blow up their servers.

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Release Date: Aug. 31, 2017, 4 p.m.
what time zone do they use?

>>1684311
GMT/CET

wonder how much would laura bailey take for voice acting sfm bestiality porn.

>>1684311
Muh fuckin dick, I can't wait for this.
Also anyone have an idea what Project Monte Carlo could be for one of their next movies?

>>1684311
Im ready

to be disappointed.

>>1684311
This one is finally suppose to be consensual right??

>>1684390
All we know is werewolf and its a lighthearted movie according to DC. So I guess so. Again, lack of communication has always been a problem

>>1684126
And you are the biggest faggot for still replying.
Just get it over with and move on, nobody gives a fuck about your virtue signalling, you colossal cuck.

>>1684379
lol same here, i remember being excited for the Jill Valentine movie which was really promising and ended up being a crap.

>>1684454
What didn't you like about it? I have a hard time gauging these things.

>>1684463

How about instantly ripping all her clothes off in the beginning and having her nude the rest of the time. Where's the fun in that?

Or not having a zombie gangbang session.

Or that stupid rock music during the last scene. That shit belongs in the BACKGROUND while you listen to the VA suck and fuck.

>>1684345
After what happened to Dan Green, probably too much.

>>1684463
Apart from the cheesy vanilla scene and its crappy dialogue, i think it would have been better if Jill was raped by the monsters while trying to escape the city rather than the Whole lab thing,
>>1684481
>How about instantly ripping all her clothes off in the beginning and having her nude the rest of the time. Where's the fun in that?
Also this.
The Nemesis showed up way too soon and one second later, Jill was completely nude.
That was totally anti-climatic,
Jill clothes sould have been PROGRESSIVELY rippped off, as monsters after monsters raped her during her escape from raccoon city.
The Hunter only getting a blowjob and not fucking her was another huge let down, such a wasted opportunity.
And again, the vanilla scene.
As i already said in another thread, it's good to try to make everyone happy, but trying to make everyone happy at the same time is ALWAYS a bad idea.
If you want to make vanilla fans happy, make a vanilla movie, if you want to make a dark movie, then stick to it.
Also vanilla doesn't mean soap opera style love scenes with cheesy romanticism.
The pic-nic setting, the pace and dialogues were fucking awful, it could've been Chris simply pulling up Jill's skirt and fucking her in a street corner while taking a break from the zombie shooting, and the scene wouldn't have been as bad.
>>1684481
>Or not having a zombie gangbang session.
That should have been the very first scene before Nemesis showing up
>Or that stupid rock music during the last scene. That shit belongs in the BACKGROUND while you listen to the VA suck and fuck.
Exactly, and what about that stupid rewind/fastforward effect during that scene?
Spare that shit for when you make a music video.

>>1684481
so true. to editing in that one was just atrocious. so many good animations ruined by some blurry shaky bullshit and twitchy camera angles. looked almost like uwe boll directed it.

>>1684531
>And again, the vanilla scene
Not him, but I never got what was wrong with this.

It was the perfect fucking rip on all those kinds of people who would get assblasted over the scout in previous movies.

But then again, I always have found it hilarious when SFM makers make a black variant of their loops, simply because they know it will get posted to like Rule34hentai, and all people will do is scream about
>LE KEK!
>WHATS WITH ALL THIS KEK SHIT!
>AUTHOR IS A KEK FAG!

Seemingly unaware of the fact that they only make it because they know it pisses off these easily offended people.

Yagskie did the scout in his animations as a joke at first, but then kept doing it simply because it always got a rise out of people, and did the same thing when he got into FOW.

Ever since they removed scout, adding vanilla content seems to be their new troll. I recall back when the yfirst started people were going on about
>WHY ALL THE RAPE!
and shit like that, adding a vanilla scene in the middle of it is a great way to troll people.

>>1684665
>LE EPIC TROLL MEMES SO FUNNY XD

>>1684681
The memes themselves aren't funny, they aren't really anything.

People getting so pissed off over the most petty and stupid shit in porn, not only that, but animated porn, usually made of, at best, mediocre quality models, with shitty VA work, or audio ripped from the game that very obviously doesn't belong, that is funny.

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>>1684665
Yagskie is fucking retarded, you can bet your ass he puts more effort in "le epic troll1!1!1!" than in what people are paying him for.
Also pointing out your stupidity doesn't mean being "offended" but people like Yagskie are too dense to understand, and they prefer convince themselves everyone is to keep their lame douchebaggery going on.
Remember that even if people are not extremely polite when criticizing something, doesn't mean they aren't right, and if you don't have your head shoved up your fucking ass thinking your shit is fucking perfect, you should take notice of those critics and try to improve yourself
>Dude, really? is that supposed to be funny?
>LOL i trolled you! you are so angry about my epic troll lol
>Dude, i am just pointing out how stupid it is...
>OH you are sooo butthurt! now i am going to make even more just to piss you off! haters gonna hate!1!1!1!
>Meh whatever...
>You see guys!? you see!? he is so butthurt at my epic troll, i am so satysfied, like i really accomplished something in my life for once!
And you want to tell me that this isn't straight up retardation?

>>1684745
The sad bit is that retardation isn't going to punish them. They probably make enough money that they don't give a fuck what people say because there's a lot of people who will continue to support them ignorant of the complaints.

StudioFOW is immensely popular on private trackers. And there is no criticism of the content there and some fraction of those people will happily throw some dollars their way. The studio has reached a point where it is simply too big to fail; it would have to fuck up in the most monumental way for well over a year straight for its income to be significantly impacted.

It's not like someone is going to come around and do it better on their scale. Certainly there are people who do better work than they do but the point is that they're not going to get more traction to unseat StudioFOW at this level of popularity and every day that passes just makes it harder. This is masturbation material; and the business model for porn is simple - so long as you keep cranking out product no matter how mediocre it is, people will pay and masturbate to it simply because it's new. If having a good product was the key to success, there would be some porn studio out there just consistently making the best shit on the planet constantly on a regular schedule. I'm just saying that the effort is not worth it; StudioFOW can and will continue to crank out mediocre shit because it's cost effective for them to do it like this; because given the choice between volume or quality, the vast majority of idiots will take volume.

They won't step it up because they don't need to; the best talent is making horse porn and loli; zero competition from StudioFOW's perspective.

>>1684817
>They won't step it up because they don't need to; the best talent is making horse porn and loli; zero competition from StudioFOW's perspective
I agree, fow needs some competition and to lose some money in order to get their shit together.
That's why at the time i wanted Aardvaak's "SEM entertainment" to succeed, even if i don't like the guy.
Anyway, does anyone know what the hell "project monte carlo" is?

A lot of shit talk coming from people who are still going to beat their meat to their material

>>1684852
i never did
their stuff is really average at best and sometimes not even that

>>1684852
>Haters gonna hate: the post

>>1684852
GOT is fucking shit but I'm still watching to see it through, does that mean I can't complain about how bad the writing is. Yes I'm going to fap to a mediocre movie that nevertheless took 30k to fund, it doesn't take much for me to masturbate to something. Will I thus lose all rights to call them out on their bullshit? What a fucking stellar argument m8.

>>1684817
>horse porn
What is it with SFM and horse/dog porn anyway? Especial rule34 has tons of shit involving dogs. Like, everytime I check the new stuff that was uploaded there WILL be dog/horse shit on page 1.

>>1684883
The arguement is, dont support them if you don't like em. There are a billion better things to do than to moan and bitch about porn. You are accomplishing nothing just like me responding to you... Everyone has different tastes some people like it some don't. My god if I went to forums to complain about everything i didn't like in life....

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>>1684884
Its (((their))) way to subtle push and normalize the idea to the masses
pic related

>>1684884

The crowd that pays for vanilla smut is small and wants exceptional quality. The more esoteric the fetish the bigger the pool and the more you can get away with.

If you started a patreon for malepreg w/ shitting dick nipples you could probably get a couple 100+ subs while only releasing some shadow puppets every couple years

>>1684894
>Only positive feedback is allowed

>>1679473
Thats kasumi? Looks like blonde axe chick from ninja gaiden, whos name I cant remeber but was trying save/slay her demon sister alma. Would fuxk all three but id prefer redhead kasumi. Maybe they altared it for parosy/copyright sake?

>>1681813
Dear god plz let it be an animation.

>>1684884
Because vanillafags are lazy and cheap. Either do your own vanilla porn or pay someone to do it, it's that simple.

>>1684902

This, and 3D animation is an excellent way of delivering taboo porn without actually needing animals and actors willing to fuck them.

>>1684894
But this specific thread was made to talk about Fow, and most people have negative things to say, expressing negative opinions isn't bitching just because you don't agree. And if you think your posts are accomplishing nothing they why did you bother posting in this of all threads, go do one of the billion things instead.

>>1684903
Sorry, by all means go to a forum of something you dislike and criticize rather than spend time with something you appreciate. A lot of the criticism on here is just assumptions and not constructive.

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Where is the fucking early access, its the first time I feel like fapping to SFM and stuff from FOW on top of that (because there is barely any good 2d (like, drawn stuff) stuff with doa girls) and now I have to wait for the official release god damn.

>>1684905
Yeah that's basically Rachel from ninja gaiden with kasumi's eyes
>Maybe they altered it for parody/copyright sake?
No, they altered it because it was supposed to be a demon corrupted version of kasumi after being raped in Kunoichi 1.
They should have just gave her red eyes or a demonic seal of some sort instead of changing the character completely, such a shame.

>>1684926
Its pretty stupid because people liked Kasumi for her innocent look. Now she looks like a literal slut and is the complete opposite. Its like doujin artists who give flat characters huge tits, ruining the main appeal of the character for many people. One of the good sites of SFM is the fact that its as close as you can get to the original source. And with making Kasumi into some OC slut that isnt like the real Kasumi at all they completly ruined it.

>>1684916
You are right and I will.

I think Monte Carlo might be something to do with Helena. There was a WIP that stated that the Helena movie was done in terms of animations, only editing was left. When that WIP came out, the progress bar was at 50%. Plus isn't the Monte Carlo French?

>>1684920
I don't see how spending time to criticize and spending time to praise are of unequal value. Most of the posts here are of the reality of our shitty experiences with FOW, plenty of anons have made lengthy posts on what bothered them about past movies. How is demanding for a better Samus model because there are better alternatives not constructive criticism. What is your idea of constructive criticism must we present you with a detailed re-write of K2's script to be constructive enough.

>>1684930
I agree

>>1684897
You shouldnt wear your tinfoil hat all the time anon, it will fry your brain.

>>1684454
tell me about ti dude. i could nit pick that poece of shit movie apart for hours

>>1684959
>Le conspiracy theorists meme
>being this clueless
Hello (((CNN)))

>>1684971
I've already answered here:
>>1684531

>>1684946
Monte Carlo is in Monaco, but I don't know enough Helena lore to say if it's close enough. And there is also those Marie-Rose previews which we have more of.
Also just went back to that Helena preview, and just noticed the terrible clipping on the pubes. How hard is it to get rid of all that tearing, it's right front and center.

>>1684950
Hold up I didn't say EVERYONE on here is just bitching and moaning with no constructive criticism. If anything I think constructive criticism is better than just "gj, i liked it." There is plenty of useful comments in this thread. There are also a ton of useless ones. I suppose the thing that bugs me most is when people bitch or complain about things based on assumptions without anything to back it up.

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>>1684925
>the first time I feel like fapping to SFM and stuff from FOW on top of that
>the first time

;)))

Agreed though, slowly but surely i'm getting kinda tilted as well because there is JUST 0 COMMUNICATION. Fucking hell, if he doesn't release it in a few hours...

>>1684985
Well DC is shit at communicating with everyone even high paying patrons,how else can you answer the question "It says 3-4 days early why didn't that happen" with something other than an assumption. Or do we just shut up and wait till he tells us his lie for the month, and be like "sure his HDD failed I totally believe that".

>>1685004
I do agree his communication is lacking. Even if Aug 31 is the "early access" release date it would have been great to know. Thing is, WE can't answer on his behalf so why try? He may or may not lying but you probably won't know for sure.

Well Wikipedia does say Monaco is French. Plus Monte Carlo has a casino and opera house. Helena is a opera singer. Marie Rose apparently is a spin-off to Kunoichi. Plus Marie is Swedish. Also there has been no confirmation on how far along Marie's movie is to completion, unlike Helena's. And I am aware that Marie is Helena's servant so there is an obvious connection. However, from the timing and title being being related to France, I am about 70% sure it might be a Helena movie.

>>1685028
I believe in one of fow's earlier patreon posts the Marie Rose project was announced for late 2018 if that. I could be wrong though. There have been some pics of Helena without much talk so it would seem that Helena is much more likely indeed.

>>1685030
>Marie Rose project was announced for late 2018
LATE 2018!?
Holy fucking shit...
What the fuck are they doing with 30k at month!?
People like SelfdrillingSMS or Animopron are working much faster and with better results despite being alone, and FOW with a Whole team and all that money is this fucking slow!?
Can't make this shit up

And it makes sense to release to Kunoichi's spin-off after K3. I guess for those who miss girl on demon. I prefer vanilla, the WIP's show Helena's movie to be vanilla. So pretty excited for it.

>>1685035
Well there was a lot of other projects announced around the same time as the Marie Rose one. I do find it weird that they announce/work on so many projects at once. I believe there was also talk about a Honoka piece.

>>1685038
>I do find it weird that they announce/work on so many projects at once. I believe there was also talk about a Honoka piece.
If you are this fucking slow, stop starting new projects and focus on the ones already announced, complete them and ONLY THEN start a new one.
Anyway at the pace they are going, i think that people predicting the Mai project to come out in 2021 weren't so far off.
Just hire at least other 3-4 animators for fuck's sake.

>>1685035
I agree with what you are trying to say but don't agree with how you're saying it. The 4-5 animator group has ~10 things to work on simultaneously. They don't work slow that's for sure, I see it more as biting off more than they can chew, trying to get people in fast and to fund them all, else 2B would be too unpopular by 2019 to fund itself. They are probably the fastest if we take raw minutes and divide by time. The LoL turds are not what anyone really wants to see but it's animator time. Animo is quality but by no means fast, he puts out one thing a year.

>>1684959
CIA Document 1035-960; "conspiracy theorist" term was weaponized to marginalize/ridicule anything challenging the official narrative.
http://gaylenixjackson.com/Research/CIA-Memo-Warren-Commission.pdf

>>1684974
Hello sisterfucking nazi piece of shit, why aren't you in /pol/ making up pepe memes to spam on reddit?

>>1684985
you need some help with those goalposts? you're moving them pretty fast

>>1685050
>conspiracy theory website says the term conspiracy theory is to bias you against conspiracy theories
we're through the looking glass here people

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>>1685054
>Oy vey! The Goyim know, shut it down!
LOL
Stay salty, kike

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>>1685063

>>1685049
animo is (almost) alone though and using much better, more advanced tools and modeling. yet to see 3d x ray from fow. 5 guys like him could make 3-4 kunoichis per year.

>>1685083
>animo is (almost) alone though and using much better, more advanced tools and modeling. yet to see 3d x ray from fow. 5 guys like him could make 3-4 kunoichis per year.
THIS

At least we hit bump limit. Fucking /pol/ and anti-/pol/, the first failing to realize calling someone a jew is a meme outside of /pol/, and the second not understanding tha nobody gives a shit about /pol/ outside of /pol/.

>>1685063
its oryginal, declassified cia document u retard; goverment says that, not "conspiracy theory website". i gave link so u can download it.

>>1685091
Don't waste your time with these people, they keep repeating "conspiracy theorists" because they don't have any real argument, just like when they start screeching about "muh hate", they don't understand that it doesn't work anymore, no matter how many times they keep repeating it.

>>1685083
>>1685088
Not disagreeing but doesn't change the fact that he is objectively slower in putting content out. And a lot of his patrons seem to dislike it.

>>1685028
>And I am aware that Marie is Helena's servant
And probably another half-sister, just because Papa Douglas was a manwhore.

Calling it now, "pre-release" tomorrow and official release on friday the 1st. Exactly like Code Valentine.

So long just for porn... Also, anyone know what's with Studiofow and their LoL obsession?

>>1685136
Isn't he basically one man vs a team? No shit it would be slower.

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By the time they'll finally manage to finish K3, Mai and Marie Rose movies, Dead Or Alive 6 will be already out with new and higher quality character models.
>Waiting for those movies to come out...

>>1685311
Their audience is 13 year-olds, and ultra normies they have to somehow satisfy them too they were not born when RE-1 came out. Why else would they use some of the worst quality models in existence, designed to be viewed only from fifty miles distance. Same goes for for the WoW and Elizabeth movies , all the models might look like utter shit but it's what is popular with the masses.

>>1685327
Yeah but unless someone that wants to put actual work in comes along and rigs them a pussy, Fow will never use them. They go for the cheapest most easily accessible resources around.

Okay something else it is tonight then. Gonna be here at 4 tomorrow and the 12 fucking minutes better be worth it.

>>1685028

See here's the thing.

Marie Rose and Honkers are terrible AWFUL characters. Even by DOA standards they're dreadful, fetishistic dolls.

Besides SelfdrillingSMS, what SFM animator is actually good AND makes longer videos?

>>1685806
Animopron?

>>1685888
Animopron don't use SFM.

>>1685902
>>1685888
I don't even particularly like animopron.

That thing with Lara getting horse dick so far it comes out her mouth wasn't even sexy, it was just stupid looking

>>1686076
You've got to hand it to him, making an x-ray movie was ballsy and he pulled through. His got the skills, it's an odd market that he's chosen but it works for him.

>>1686126
>skills
cant even animate
kay

>>1685049
The thing is why bother announcing a porn movie for late 2018? What's the point. The only thing I can think of is to get people who want that in on their patreon gravy train right now, despite nothing much coming from it for at least half a year, with nothing actually out for a year. Or even longer. They announced the Samus thing ages ago and it's still a ways from release, apparently.

The other problem would be, they're announcing it now and will be showing of regular WIPs, also to attract patreons now. With the problem here being working on too many projects at once to have people join up so they can see the WIPs, leading to every project taking longer to release, rather than just focusing on a few at a time.

It just strikes me as poor management and falling into the more kickstarter like trap of announcing things so far in advance you're likely to be encountering trouble when things inevitably change in the intervening time.

So I guess no early release then? What a good way to lose your patreon's trust. Its ridiculous that the whole team is so paranoid rather than taking care of their promises towards their consumers. They might as well get rid of Patreon all together since whats the point of donating $20+ more now if they are gonna be that anal about releasing WIPS. or other content they have to offer? One of the reasons I like ZONE is because he can take the whole leaking situation with grace and just continue what he's doing since he probably knew that this kind of thing is beyond his control and he does have loyal followers who are able to pay him regardless. With all the broken promises going on and the upcoming projects are underwhelming I'm considering unfollowing them.

>>1686266
it is possible that early access is august 31st

Its out now!

Waiting for that anon to come through......

>>1686633
give us the goods

i hope FOW do more Resident Evil is the future,Clair deserve to be really fucked.

Could've been a new series like Kunoichi with each sequel featuring a different RE girl - Claire, Rebecca, Ada, Sheva. Doubt that's ever going to happen now though.

is out

Waiting for based anon

https://mega.nz/#!VdYwmYKY!ZxfF_BJOa2vMJHNtXgu-mgyA7wVjA_Vp6cgQ-qBbQf0

>>1686674
Anyone going to upload to a streaming site? Can't download unfortunately..

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>>1686674
God bless you!

>>1686690
tank you sir

>>1686674
wow that was awful
thanks for the quick share

I actually thought it was pretty good.... but I love Mila so I'm biased

The sex part could've been a bit better but I do adore the humor that was played into the story as well as the narrator.

Yeah the Mila model was hot and there was some good variety but that script was a little awkward to say the least.

It was really good

Is it me or the soundtrack is from Hyrule Warriors?

>>1686674
mvp ty

>>1686674
Really appreciate that anon, thank you

It's a little odd. It's a beast gangbang... And it's vanilla. Some will find the dialogue hilarious, others will find it cringy af, because of the tryhard voice acting. If you're not really into non-con, and love beasts, then I guess this is for you. I find it meh currently. But that's because I fapped prior to seeing it, so I can definitely see myself fapping to this. It's way more enjoyable than their last 5 releases.

Well, now to wait for animopron I guess.

Non rape = boring as fuck
Model was good, she deserved to get rektd senseless, not this pussy consensual garbage

I thought this was pretty good, better than their other recent stuff. Gynoid does a better job than some of the other voice actresses, imo. I

'm still mainly looking forward to more Kunoichi and the Metroid movie. They really shouldn't have delayed it this long.

>>1686948
Yeah, i also think a rape scenario would've been way hotter.. Personal preference though. Can't complain about the overall animation n stuff though, really enjoyable. Mila model looked really nice... Getting my hopes up for the upcoming stuff.

I don't how the inner of how Patreon works if there is some sort of sub-forum for patreons, but anyone in it, knows if they ever receive feedback beside their product being the best thing since sliced bread?

I also wonder what they are gonna do about all those milestones they went through, feels like nothing has changed.

Anyway at least this one with Mila was quite nice. The framing at the start was odd because it felt like it was leading somewhere else and did not, but is not a problem after the first viewing I suppose, the model and lightning was better than those (cel shading like?) filters they have been using lately. Also if the vanilla scene in the RE short had looked like this, it would have been fine.