new STUDIOFOW Thread

If anyone got any WIP pics or info please post them

Seeing how their next release will be the Mila Red Riding Hood thingie, let me ask: are people here looking forward to it or not, and why?

I personally vastly prefer non-con content, so it's hard for me to get excited for it.
I'm curious to see how the intended target audience might view the upcoming release, though.

>>1614652
I hope it turns out to be good, but i agree with you, it would be way better if it was non-con as it also fits the "little red riding hood" theme better.

>>1614613
I cant wait for K3, I hope they do a supercut and combine all the movies into 1, also more Momiji

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>>1614742
Personally i still can't get over this, i would like Kasumi to actually look like Kasumi and not that crappy Rachel ripoff.

>>1614652

The premise makes no sense and Id on't care about the character

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From the previous thread:
-FOW's NEW POLL-

How many years do you want to wait for the release of our movies?

-
3/5 years:
1.00%

10 years:
4.00%

15 years:
5.00%

Just in time for my granchildren's wedding:
90.00%

>>1615103
>Just in time for my granchildren's wedding:
>90.00%

>implying the people that pay are ever having grandchildren or will live to see them marry

>>1615124
>implying the people that pay are ever having grandchildren or will live to see them marry
That makes their current schedule even more accurate.
Anyway, does anyone know which older movie is going to be remastered first?
I hope that's kunoichi 1 as it was their first proper movie, Lara in trouble isn't even Worth it, better to make a new lara movie altogether,

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>>1614613
what the hell? why are we still getting this SFM shit with this kind of budget??

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>>1615293
>Takes 30k at month
>Doesn't fulfill the stretch goals and deletes them hoping nobody will notice and pretending everything is fine
>Kunoichi3 and Metroid parody delayed to 2018
>said Metroid parody features Sarah Bryant's model but they ask us to pretend she's Samus anyway.
>Loses his best animators and defames them on the internet
>Bans the Patreons that call him out on this shit
Are we sure DC isn't (((DC)))?

>>1615357
Well LordAarvark and many other former FOW animators exposed DC as unprofessional scum so...

So, a threads about FOW are going to be a thing now? Let it die, w8 for the next shitty release, then create a new one. Because honestly I've been reading a lot criticism, most reasonable and valid, but little is actually useful, going about their currently work, futures releases, technical issues and so on.

>>1615478
I think we were all hoping for some anons to drop some WIP pics or anything like that

>>1615361
Both DC and Aardvark are colossal cunts.

>>1615492
I am not sure about DC but i know that Aardvaark is (((Aardvaark)))

>>1614652
Personally I am not fond of bestiality but I think Mila is pretty sexy in that red riding hood outfit and I'm curious to see if she's gonna dirty talk the wolf.

>>1615357
Do they still have onagi?

>>1616509
I think you missed a bit of drama..

>>1614806
The premise of the Kunoichi games also make no sense seeing as the respective protags can kill armies of demons and soldiers pretty good on their own.

>>1616509
Onagi is flying solo again.

>>1616522
>>1616534
He's probably the best I've seen.

>>1616561
Eh he can't hold a candle to some of the better ones that's for sure, but he also doesn't pretend to be and I generally can respect that he rather makes vanilla stuff.

>>1616509
Onagi, Vismund and Snip are now gone, and both their schedule and quality are suffering because of it.
Does anyone know Onagi's version of the story?
I tried going on his tumblr but there's a safe mode now that can't be unlocked unless you sign up on dumblr

>>1616734
just get a fkin throaway acc, not gonna pastebin his monologue

>>1616734
From what i remember reading of onagi's point of view he was very cool and easy about it. unlike DC who ranted his mouth off with a bunch of swearing and abuse. i dont know what realy happened myself but comparing both of there stances on things i favor onagi's. he was as i said much more cooler and easy going on explaining things. Dc just sounded like he was bitching

>>1616884
You'd be cool if you just stole 10K from someone and they couldn't do shit. Onagi's probably a nigger.

>>1616561
You can't seriously believe this. You need those cataracts removing, you dumb fuck.

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Is DC reading this thread?
Look at this...

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>>1617043
...And look at it now
LEL

>>1616993
dude that a pretty shitty thing to say. wether or not he is a black dude is irrelivant. onagi was paid for what he did, he didnt steal the money. Dc claims he ''took the money and ran'' because he parted on bad terms with him. whatever the reason was for onagi leaving DCs mouth doesnt exactly help his reputation at all and all it does is just deter anyone out there from wanting to join for.

>>1617299
>tfw a fairly popular sfm animator that ive commissioned a few times let me know hes actually Jamaican

Yeaaaah, im not so sure about that.

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>>1617516

>>1617549
What?

>>1616734
http://onagiart.tumblr.com/post/160864721995/because-some-have-asked-to-hear-my-side

>>1616531
Well he probably meant that having Mila in the world of fairytales as "little red riding hood" makes no sense, as the character doesn't fit in that world, while kunoichi is more or less set in an alternate version of Ninja Gaiden 2, and those characters do fit in that kind of setting (Demon invaded Tokyo) even if canonically they would be able to defteat those demons as you said.
I saw the previews of Mai's and Marie Rose's movies on the previous thread, and i wonder if they are going to be set in the same universe.
Seems like it.

>>1615361
>Well LordAarvark and many other former FOW animators exposed DC as unprofessional scum so...


....wut?

Is there a reason why anytime FOW does vanillashit they halfass it and only have something like a single blowjob without penetration and then use it as an excuse to not make more vanilla shit when it's poorly received?

>>1617886
Because they probably think Vanilla = Foreplay and little more, or cheesy romanticism (like the crappy pic-nic part in thier RE parody)

Its hard to believe which side was right in onagi vs DC since neither of them posts any actual proof to who said what. If we got screencaps of actual chatlogs then I'd be able to choose a side but right now I just think both are assholes who have terrible work ethic.

>>1617516
Yeah and the holocaust was real....
>>1617926
The problem with these people is that they think they are special and people owe them money just because they exists.
They need to get over themselves and be more humble.

>>1617951
I still dont get what youre on about.

>>1617299
Yeah black people cant do anything creati-

Oh wait, Mr.RandomBoobGuy is black. Nevermind.

>>1617516
>taking the bait

>>1617926

There is no way that DC threw away adequate work. He's desperately short of staff as it is.

Onagi failed to produce work of adequate quality. He's honest about the fact that DC didn't like what he had delivered, but seems to think that he can turn in whatever he feels like because he's "The Great Onagi". While Onagi was being paid, DC only published one of his shorts, and it was lackluster, especially in animation terms. His other stuff must have been quite poor.

DC probably wanted Onagi to up his game, but instead Onagi just did bare minimum stuff.

I don't know what DC's doing, but he should try to reach out to people outside the SFM community. People often go on /3/ and say they're thinking about making porn and how easy it would be with their background. Perhaps DC should offer try-outs for those, apparently already talented, individuals.

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>>1617964
>RandomBoobGuy is black

Since when? I didn't know what he was, but if this is true I'm surprised.

>>1618116
He said it numerous times that hes black on his tumblr.

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>>1617043
>>1617046
what

>>1616734
Vismund, and Snip were credited as animators on Code Valentine.

Vismund's tumblr was shut down(though he has a new one), and Snip closed theres, but they are still apparently doing work for StudioFOW

>>1618331
Anyone know WHY Snip shut down their tumblr?

>>1615357
>said Metroid parody features Sarah Bryant's model but they ask us to pretend she's Samus anyway.
I thought this was bullshit until I googled Sarah Bryant, they're literally the same.

>>1615361
>mfw going through sfm creators tumblrs and seeing them get cuntier and cuntier through the years
its like popularity makes them into pricks

>>1618446
Is this really surprising?

Ever seen the modding community for video games? The guys making mods the longest, and the ones making the most popular ones, are always dicks, and get more dickish as the years go by.

>>1618446
It's a sad trend.
It's hard to imagine you could even get an ego by begging for patrons for making porn using video game assets.

At least most of the VAs know exactly what they're doing, and stay humble.

>>1617603
>http://onagiart.tumblr.com/post/160864721995/because-some-have-asked-to-hear-my-side

DC hear is clearly lossing his shit because he is another animator donw. he speaks of being professional yet continues to loose his temper and as a result looses staff in the process.

i wont speak any names here but i do know of a small incident where during the making of kunoichi 2 one animator contacted DC to let him know that he was having SFM and computer issues and it was delaying his efforts on a particular scene he was working on. according to what this animator told me DC's responce was something along the lines of ''get it done in 24hrs or im docking your pay''. to me this sounds like DC has zero patientrs for anyone, even if it is an unexpected technical problem which can happen at any time and not at the fault of the animator themselves. to me, this was DC being once again, an uptight asshole

>>1619189
Not trying to pick sides here, but Onagi's other post paints a slightly different picture for me.

>http://onagiart.tumblr.com/post/160865856715/not-trying-to-accuse-you-or-anything-just-curious

Every "animator job offer" posted by FOW was for a fulltime position.
Seeing as how the posts mention Onagi's been paid 10k, and was getting 1,5k/month, it's fair to assume we're talking about a fulltime position.

Onagi himself states that when he works at a very relaxed pace he releases 24 minutes of content a year.
When working fulltime, he managed to put out 22,5 minutes of content in 9 months.
That is PATHETICALLY little content, especially for that pay. As an employer I also would not tolerate that, at all.

That said, StudioFOW has no leg to stand on when talking about how quickly they "work". Those fuckers take their sweet time releasing their own content, if they're not too busy making false promises and delaying movies without informing anyone.
And even if they were completely in the right, DC was needlessly agressive.

Onagi seems to have been a very poor fit for FOW, didn't pull his weight for the contract he accepted, and was then needlessly and publicly shamed by his asshole employer for drama-points.

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4 Sec Looping Animation - 16hrs Render time. To poor for this shit....

>>1619379
Interesting way to put it, but id agree yeah. onagi himself even admitted that he felt he was not up to FOWs standard which begs the question as to why DC even hired him to begin with

>>1618451
The Sven Coop guy seems pretty cool.

>>1619600
I would suspect it was because Onagi is one of the few people who actually makes videos that are over a minute long instead of just 3 second loops.

Besides him and FOW, the only person I can think off off the top of my head who does that on a somewhat consistent basis is aardvark, but hes sort of a douche, and kinda shitty.

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>>1619538
>Patreon logo

>>1619695
You are forgetting one of SFMs rare talents and at this moment, animating GOD!!!

Selfdrill brah =D

Since this is relevant to the thread, are there any sfm artists you recommend that do good monster/tentacle fetish stuff? Preferably those I don't have to be a Patron for?

>>1620835
Selfdrilling does mostly like loli stuff, which not even FOW will get involved with.

>>1619600
>onagi himself even admitted that he felt he was not up to FOWs standard
This quote, if true, is the most impressive thing I've seen from Onagi.

If you're an actual animator and you say that your work is awesome, you're a moron. If you actually make stuff, you should always seek to improve.

There is opiumud, pretty talented korean, everything still looks kinda wonky, but if he keeps improving, he's gonna be really successful. Sadly his public releases also take months...

>>1619538
That face is nighmare fuel.

>>1621186
Very true, and applies to every creative profession.

I mean does Opiumud work alone? If so, I think he's got a lot of potential. His sense for brutality is way better than DC and Studiofow, he actually implements all sorts of fetishes, and I'm looking forward to his Requiem 3 movie (with Kasumi, Momiji, Ayane and the rest of the DOA girls). If he had a decent team and improved a lot, I think he'd be more than a rival to Fow.

I'm pretty sure he's (Opiumud) the sole animator but I could be wrong. His releases are actually pretty fast considering their run-times. Still needs a lot of improvement but each project is getting better.

Also, he seems to be a big StudioFow fan. I wouldn't be surprised if they work together at some point in the future.

>>1621767
Speaking of Opiumud, does anyone have the full video of the Civil War Overwatch movie?

>>1622816

The quality of his animation is just really terrible though.

He just doesn't have talent for animation. He doesn't get how people move, everything looks robotic, inert and dead unlike someone like selfdrilling for example. He doesn't use easing (which gives objects a sense of acceleration or deceleration) so his cameras and people look inorganic as heck. Just a bad animator with little understanding for the fundamental principles of animation.

With that said though he's very hardworking and puts in a lot of effort into thinking up the scenarios, directing and storyboarding etc. He just really needs to team up with a better animator because his characters just look like robots being thrown around by some crappy physics ragdoll engine rather than being animated by-hand.

>>1624298
Pretty much this yeah... To say it more casually: It's fappable, but there is better stuff out there.
>>1623744
Give it a google and you'll find a good stream in 720p.

Yeah, I agree, the movement is definitely terrible, and not to mention how he even implemented tentacles in his Marie Rose "movie". And yeah, he needs a talented team, asap. Nami Grand Line had a great plot, but the animation made it completely unfappable

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>>1624548
>not to mention how he even implemented tentacles in his Marie Rose "movie"

I haven't seen this guy's work, but here's FoW's own Moneyshot using tentacles. SFM tentacles are like a string of sausages in a stocking, and you need lots of keys to make penetrations like this work.

The abdominal bulge should be more to Marie Rose's left for a lower intestine penetration. He should have used puppeteering to skew the bulge -- fucking amateur:)

>>1618116
>a black man draws the best anal-gape in hentai
It's fitting.

I miss MarmSFM, and which he would come back, get updated with all the imrpvoements, and then help StudioFOW

>>1625317

god I hate that character. Both her and Honkers are a plague

>>1626673
I'd be fine with them if their fanbases weren't so obnoxious.

>>1619695

Aardvark is nowhere near as shit a person as DC.

The fact of the matter is that DC used the Aardvark's models for their big Bioshock movie and still felt the need to shit all over Aardvark's models (despite the fact that they used them as they are and made no effort to improve on them at all).

>>1619600

Because Fow has been short on animators for quite a while now.

>>1623203
Patreon supporter here.
Yes, he work alone but he had commissioned a few animator between 2 release to keep the content flowing.
>>1624298
I think he actually improved this year, I jsut wish he would stop with too much lightning on certains shoot.

https://xhamster.com/videos/best-pornmaker-animation-part-21-6156405
Does anybody know the source of fragment 9:16?

>>1626809

when we have long term series originals getting shafted completely for them then we have a prob,em

>>1628297
Completely agreed, but that's due to the fanbase dominating the polls.
Design-wise they're passable, kinda.

>>1629549

bah those polls where rigged from the get go. It was all based around who sold the most DLC and the kind of faggots who support characters like them are the kind who would make multiple accounts to bulk buy shit


Though it's been a long time and Im honestly surprised there hasn't been a peep about character DLC yet

>>1614652
>Mila Red Riding Hood thingie
So is it furry or beast?

>>1629841
Werewolves

DarklustSFM may be someone new to watch out for

>>1629846
Shame

>>1630184
>DarklustSFM

Just checked it out. Animation just subpar, same problems as opiumud. But good scenarios. Really wish these people collaborated with people who actually know how to animate properly

nothing new on the fow front then =( i enjoys the gossip =P

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Jessica won the poll.
I voted for Zelda so I'm not really happy with this

>>1637797
>from afar I thought it's yen from Witcher 3
>tfw still no eta on witcher 3 movie
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1637837
Same here haha
>>1637797
Thanks for the wip though.

So what's this Jessica movie gonna be about? A gangbang? Is it like 10 minutes or around 30, is there more info on it?

>>1638156
Gangrape. Should be longer than the bj trilogy

>>1637797
Cool wip i guess, but the fact they voted for a 3D version of a cartoon characxter from a late 80s movie isnt impressive much. then again the other two options where not exactly promising either lol

>>1638156
>So what's this Jessica movie gonna be about?

Jessica Rabbit? Looks like it's just a bunch of blowjobs.

>>1637797
>I voted for Zelda

you're taste is boring and you're a dullard

>>1639042
>bunch of bj's
tfw when you run out of decent animators

also I'm gonna bring this hot take up again >>1619379

>10k, and was getting 1,5k/month, it's fair to assume we're talking about a fulltime position.

I don't know what third world shithole you live in, but $1500 a month for a skilled job is shit wages for full time work. If that's the kind of pay DC is offering it's pretty clear he's getting desperate animators to work for him for chump change, and pocketing the vast majority of the money. Even working part time that's pretty slim pickings unless you're single and have damn low expenses.

>>1639126
Really? The Zelda movie was the best (and thats not saying much) the other character models sucked ass. I'm not even a zelda fan but I would much prefer a zelda movie over the other ones

>Studio Fow = 30,700$ per month
>Onagi = 1500$ (2000$ ?) per month

How the fuck goes the budget ???
- 3D modeler ? They takes models from anywhere (sometime uncredited) and barely do some cosmetic changes (oh hi Samus/Sarah and Kasumi/Rachel)
- Advertisement ? No popup seen about Fow.
- Community manager ? I guess this one gets a better pay than the animator
- The team ? Only 5 peoples here and I'm not sure who're actually credited...

>>1639295
Money =! quality
Fow has lost a lot of good people.
Honestly, I think DC pockets a lot of the money

>>1639295
yeah in his haste to shit on Onagi, DC probably shouldn't have let that little tidbit out

too late and now everybody knows why animators don't want the hassle of putting up with his dumb ass

>>1637797
Damn, that's actually pretty nice model. I just hope she leaves her gloves or dress on for awhile. Pretty disappointing to see the Jill movie have her completely naked without at least more of the iconic outfits on. Any more Jessica wips or others?

>>1639344
I like it too.
>I just hope she leaves her gloves or dress on for awhile

I'm okay with this for a brief while at the beginning to establish the character and the mood, whatever it is. Full or partial costume in a dimly lit room or being dragged by the men into the dungeon or whatever. But I really enjoy when these characters are naked during the nonconsensual sex, to me it increases their vulnerability. Even better if they're naked and visibly tied down or handcuffed or something.

>>1638919
The only way it could have been better is if twas Holli Wood instead of Jessica Rabbit

>>1618451
That's not always true. The guy who makes the vampire masquerade bloodlines complete mod seems pretty cool.

>>1639605

Ink and Paint club liveshow, both of them, ass to ass with cocks in their mouths.

>>1639557

just so long as the clothes don't tear away like a paper doll

>>1639776
*insert Requiem for a Dream's ass to ass webm here*

>>1639167
It's standard pay for an animating position, you mong.

t. animator

DC is losing his shit over the leaked WIP's.

>>1637797
damn the Jessica one was my least favorite of the blowjob trio.i was hoping for the Zelda one to wins.

by how much did the zelda one lost?

Alright which one of you did this?

>>1640315

It's shit wages for a skilled full time position, so go fuck yourself.

t. not a retard

>>1640970
lol where they at?

>>1641013

Why we cant have nice things

Whats this patreon post about lel

>>1641243
Trouble with some lawyers over copyright n shit. AND ITS ALL BECUZ OF THE PEOPLE LEAKING MUH PATREON POSTS.
DC is throwing a tantrum

>>1640315
Yeah...no, you fucking idiot. The Average is 40-50k a year.

Thats 3k-4k a month.

=Ddrama time folks, now i must get comfy and observe

Errrr what? He expects people to believe that he's having problems with LAWYERS AND COPYRIGHT because of someone leaking his posts. This guy is lazy even when it comes to making shit up lol, that's the dumbest way to dissuade people from leaking his stuff LOL

>>1641732
HUH...i saw that ''lawyers and copyright'' quote above but i didnt think it was serious. xD. how cAN dc claim copyright over assests that he does not own at all??. jesus christ the guy is extremely butt hurt for sure. lol

>>1641709
And you know what happens when drama starts. I can't wait to see what he will come up with.
He can ether do the "smart" thing and ignore it, as it is impossible to prevent leaks and let the quality of his content bring the money in. Or he can try to limit the WIPs he gives out pissing the actual money givers. Or even claim delays or complaints from within the company attributing them to leaks, when they would happen anyway. Making everyone mad and buying him time till the next paycheck.
Animo is getting closer to releasing, so we have that going for us at least.

>>1641828
Animo ?? ya lost me bro =)

So here's how things are gonna be from now on:

1) No more quarterly updates

2) No more roadmaps or upfront project announcements. Most of you know what's coming anyway.

3) No more trailers until the project release day

4) No more diary (nobody reads it anyway)

5) No more watermarked WIP's from sensitive franchises, only from companies that I have...shall we say, "struck an understanding" with

6) Early access will remain, but don't be a cunt and post the links elsewhere - everyone else will get them in 3 days anyway, would you risk a DMCA shutdown just to be a mongoloid?

Basically, he is removing all the benefits for 10+ patrons

>>1641864
Nawwwww xD hes that butt hurt. the leaks are not making even a dent in the patreon earnings and he decided to act as if he is loosing a ton of revenue. what an egotistical ass lol

>>1641864
I don't really understand why this matters. It seems like most of us think FOW is garbage and as a result don't actually contribute money. Now I know most people are cheap shits and in reality only 1% of consumers pay but the point remains that nobody here is that 1%.

A garbage product that is getting less effort put into it is hardly something that matters; the only thing that would be relevant is an announcement of improved quality of the product. There's no point caring about the suffering of the Patreon users when they don't care about quality product in the first place.

It's like crying about McDonalds fucking you (full disclosure I love McDonalds food) - it's completely retarded to complain when you're patronizing a company that doesn't care about their product, workers, or customers (I never complain; it's garbage food and I happen to like it).

>>1641962
''hands you a mcflurry and chocolate milkshake'' =D

There is a few artists that i support that have asked for folks to stop posting there patreon only stuff on R34. now these fellas have been a lot more calmer about it simply because despite it being an annoyance for them and a potential dent in thier patreon income they know that their is nothing they can do sadly. and these are small time folks who try to earn what extra bucks they can by delivering good content and being honest and cool to those who support them. DC however is just an ass with an ego. FOW GOT LUCKY with lara in trouble. it was by sheer chance that it became popular and since then they have become more of a brand which i give them some credit for. But DC's attitude is why folks will spreak of fow the way they do. here is a few tips mr DC. loose the arrogance, drop the ego, calm your balls, DONT feed the trolls, and just be cool and easy regardless what the internet throws at you, some things are out of your control.. chances are with these simple steps you will be much better equipt to handle any short comings and continue to prosper =)

>>1641962
It's just a scapegoat way of producing even less content, he knows he can't keep up. He is moving his problems somewhere else trying to convince his patrons that he is "solving" a problem. He can only bring new patrons in by making new content in the meantime he has to hold the already existing people there, he is trying to show that there is other "work" being done that's why things are being delayed.

It's a way to rally up his audience, saying "we are the good guys who work hard, 4chan is the bad guys and because they saw that one picture of that floppy monster dingus we have to work extra and need more money or else no-one can have fun".

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- Lara in Trouble -- 9/10. Cool.

- Bioshag: Trinity -- 9/10. I like three different stories.

- Kunoichi -- 7/10. I'm not that much in asian style.

- Kunoichi 2 -- 8/10. That's better.

- Scarlet Nights -- 7/10. Pretty boring, there's only a dog fucking Harley in a doggy-style (how fucking ironic).

- Songbird's Shame -- 5/10. Blowjobs are boring.

- Siren's Call -- 6/10. Pirates are cool.

- Nightmare: Code Valentine -- 9/10. A million time yes. I love this one. Ol' good fow.

>>1642096
Yeah I agree that this is a smart move to rally his paying audience. And the reason why it will work is because they're fucking retarded. It's not terribly hard to imagine that people with shit taste also can't realize they're being duped.

The thing is, I agree with most of the shit he's doing. It's not time or cost efficient to make trailers or do blogposts or useless shit like that. If the audience needs that shit to remain interested, I'd rather NOT have their money and save the effort than use their money to keep them satisfied. At the end of the day the product is what matters most and the majority of the focus should be directed at that, and not trailers.

I find it funny that 4chan is being used as an Internet scapegoat for all of the Internet's ills. It's not 4chan that is or ever was the problem, it was a huge influx of normal people with sensitive issues who bring their idiotic tribal biases and group-hate caused by cheap computers and mobile posting. Like you say, blame 4chan, it's the easy thing to do. We're clearly responsible for the product being shit - obviously, not the actual creator; we're clearly stressing him out and drowning out the conversation with our hate. I'm glad for all the reasons 4chan has increased on bandwagoning there are still a few corners that can call shit for what it is.

>>1642033
It's the money talking every time.
Take Akabur and Breeding season for example. Both produced their best content when money was low, the more money the got the slower they worked. When they saw that they had reached a plateau in money they did what any scumbag would do, they milked it as much as they could and then just stopped. Akabur makes 5k a month a hell of a lot of money but 1/4 of what he used to make, and makes 0 content, but that is viable for him as he is only one guy. Breeding season on the other hand broke up, as the money wasn't enough for everyone to split, one guy just took them and run.
Fow is going to follow the Breeding season cycle, if K3 isn't a miracle hit and doesn't add another 50% to their income, DC will fire everyone good, keep the cheap workers and milk it till he can run with the money. And if that doesn't happen now it will in the near future, he is not going to let the money drop before his makes sure the biggest piece goes to him.

>>1642188
Cloud Meadow is currently 165,000/year split between 6 staff.

The project is clearly a second job for all people involved. StudioFOW has twice as much money with who knows how many staff.

>>1642387
The record for Breeding Season was 55k a month, it's harder to get going with one failure on you back. Fow will follow their path exactly.

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Is this the nice thing that we can't have anymore DC?
Is this what triggered you, because 55 people on 4chan got to feast their eyes on this beautiful black and white smudge? Or what it that other one that looked like it came out of an N64 game?

Actually, as big of an asshole as DC is, I wouldn't want FOW to fall apart anytime soon, because they've got a lot of projects in the making, and as long as it's not flash games, there's hope for the content being not-so-horrible. But if they keep releasing their stuff twice a year, I can't see it thriving. I just hope K3 doesn't end up being a disappointment, cos that's pretty much the only thing I'm hyped for (that, and the rest of their DOA videos, and maye GITS). If they manage to make that boring, then I'm dropping this.

>>1641828
>>1641834
People like Animopron or SelfdrillingSMS work much faster and with better results than FOW despite working alone.
DC better get his shit together, nobody is going to keep giving them money for those shitty gifs and that sad FOWchan roleplay on their blog

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>>1642437
No, not that one, maybe this one...

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>>1642739
...or this one...

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>>1642744
...or maybe this too...

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>>1642750
...or even this, who knows...

>>1642731
>Animopron or SelfdrillingSMS
These are the only people I support. They should be the ones setting the bar.

Long form, good voice acting, smooth animation, a variety of minor movements for life-like activity. StudioFOW wins because they do popular shit in long-form, which is something nobody else does but their product in the recent two years is just as shit as some guy cranking out 10 second clips only spread out over a longer duration.

If you know of any others like Animo and Selfdrilling I'd be glad to know of them.

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>>1642753
...?

>>1642760
Noname55 is bretty good too, but rarely makes longer videos, and that's a shame.

>>1642731
>>1642760
Animopron and SelfdrillingSMS seem to have a lot of past experience maybe they even studied somewhere. I don't think it's right to have them set the bar, just appreciate that they exist. Surpassing Mozart is an unreasonable goal for any musician.

Having a boss ruins people man. Having to animate something you don't like just to be paid less that the shit voice-actor and your previously coworker boss that gets an extra cut for rping on tumblr, I'm sure sucks.

Look, all i'm saying is you give me people that do monster/tentacle porn with sound better than FOW and i'll turn to them.

>>1642803
nver heard of animppron but i may go look him up. but selfdril.......OMG OMG OMG that guy has skills that i cannot praise enough =D. i support him on patreon and have spoken to him a few times and he seems like a realy good dude. he is someone who as earned his patreons support well. =)

>>1642829
When it comes to sound design FOW is perhaps one of the good ones, but code valentine showed just how lazy DC got int he sound department. it was absolutly terrible

>>1642791
>>1642803
>>1642731

The only thing with the guys only doing shorts is you don't see their real level of skill. It's not that big a deal once you're proficient with the tools to do short fuck loops that look good. It's when you start having to do walk cycles and facial expressions besides ahegao where the real talent comes out. You can see this is where FOW fails big time, their walk cycles are hilariously bad, feet sliding all over the place and shit.

>>1642803
You're right. I should just appreciate they exist. Their training or their high standards I'm glad that it is evident they care. They're pretty much the best at what they do; like Zone.

I'm not opposed to having a boss and having to give them a cut. Bosses and secretaries streamline the process and do all the shit you REALLY don't care about like maintaining the websites and shit. The problem with StudioFOW's case is they look to the fans for suggestions and that results in the situation where they have to animate shit they don't care about as you said. And that RP stuff, what the fuck. The good guys just put their shit out there and if we don't like it we can just go fuck ourselves.

>>1642836
Whatever good technical sound design they have is completely undermined by what they allow to pass as good voice acting.

>>1642829
Fow on SFX is an odd case it has been OK objectivity ,great on comparison. But their non Jap voice actor suck, they can do random grunts an moans and it will improve the final product.
They did do valentine this year that's true but their majority for 2017 hasn't been monster porn.

How many animators does Fow have now, about 5~6? And how many ongoing projects do they have like 7? That doesn't seem like a good business model...

>>1642850
Good point dude. DC cares mostly about thE VA as apposed to the rest of the sound work which should be just as important as the VA itself. And even when the VAs are doing their thing i think he cares more about the sexual noises then any solid creation of an actual character.i have nothing against the girls he employs and i commend them for their efforts, but things could indeed be much better. and compared to someone like selfdrill who earns much less and does it all by himself, DC has ZERO excuse for his laziness.

>>1642877
around 3 or 4 i think. 2 of the best have left

>>1641864

What shit show.

>>1642883
Selfdrilling's next thing is going to be the first time he's worked with a voice actor - all the previous times he was using clips from the game. There's no guarantee it's going to be good this time around but knowing his animation standards and ability to match the voice acting to the scene I would bet on it being good with a voice actor.

>>1642803

Well, just today I was looking at some of the artists I follow, and I have to give props to Kallenz.

His animations are short loops, but he puts a shitload of character on them.

>>1642896
Oh..so you wanna know if the next thing we are making is going to be worth your money, fuck you now you can't. Blame the hacker known as 4chan
What you where in it for the monster porn, the normie whales in the $500+ tier wanted another blowjob, thanks for your money though.

>>1642941

>tfw I liked the Zelda short

It's the only one in the BJ trilogy I liked, mostly because Cia taking cock gets me going.

That Jessica won is the ultimate dissapointment, because I don't really feel the model, it was a bunch of rape shit that I don't like, and you're telling me you're gonna do an animation about the bustiest cartoon female, and not have a single boob slip out of clothing?

It was terrible.

>>1642933
Checked his stuff, his first animation was surprisingly long and hardcore tickled me down there, then he turned super vanilla, and there is a lot of people doing vanilla, it takes a lot to get my interest in that category.

>>1642954
The Zelda one was the most well-made but Jessica has the most potential for a full movie, saying that 3D Jessica does nothing for me there is nothing connecting that model to the 2D Jessica of my childhood.
BJ trilogy shouldn't have been back-to-back we got only clothed blowjobs for half a year.

>>1642836
>>1642850
The sound in FOW movies absolutely sucks, if there's something i learnt from ZONE is that even if your animation is good, you need some good sound effects to match the scenes, and if the sound is good enough, the animation becomes 10 times hotter.
the wet, slapping sound during a pouding, the slimy sound of the flesh going in and out and the squirting, internal or external is really important to "set the mood" if you know what i mean.
Only thing DC does is adding those 2 or 3 same sound effects and call it a day, the worst one is the one he ALWAYS uses for internal cumshots that sounds more like a can of soda getting opened than internal squirting.
>>1641864
So basically they are now asking more for giving less, baka.
If this is true, they are going to lose a lot of supporters from now on.
>>1642096
>It's just a scapegoat way of producing even less content, he knows he can't keep up. He is moving his problems somewhere else trying to convince his patrons that he is "solving" a problem.
Exactly
>>1642145
>>1642188
>It's the money talking every time.Take Akabur and Breeding season for example. Both produced their best content when money was low, the more money the got the slower they worked.
>Fow is going to follow the Breeding season cycle, if K3 isn't a miracle hit and doesn't add another 50% to their income, DC will fire everyone good, keep the cheap workers and milk it till he can run with the money. And if that doesn't happen now it will in the near future, he is not going to let the money drop before his makes sure the biggest piece goes to him.
THIS
They are taking more money but making less content than what they used to, DC even said that with the Raffles gone they were going to release the movies faster, which turned out to be complete BS as usual.

>>1642927
Oh indeed dude. im realy looking forward to see what his has cooked up. Also, due to his standards and skills of animation and set and scene design i wonder how strict and carefully directing he was of the VA for her to pull off a performance that he felt fit the character well enough. somethign DC would no nothing about im sure =p. Selfdrill does have a small teaser trailer planned to release soon and the full movie by the end of the month. but who knows what speed bumps he may enocunter.

>>1642941
The money speaks volumes aloud eh dude :). its no wonder the quality of your content is slugish, the consistency is lacking, animators leaving, and your inability to just take the trolls of the internet with a grain of salt and just focus more on improving FOW instead of milking it. the lowbie small contributers dont matter to you at all i get it. they dont give the bulk of cash that that you have had the luxury of swimming in for the past few years so i understand why you see them in such a low view. its a shame FOW is failing slowly, i had such expectations for you guys :) my bad

>>1643095
I honestly can't see Fow lasting much longer, they are taking their supporters' money for granted, ignoring their stretch goals, stopped making raffles, delaying their movies over and over again, and both quantity and quality is going down.
I would be surprised if they are even going to complete all their announced projects to be honest.
>>1615357
>StudioJew
>Not your average scam
Indeed

I don't understand how an image can bring up a lawsuit (although my guess would be the jessica WIP one although its a fanmade model). Also I think its unfair to punish their patreons for something that is beyond everyone's control, especially towards the people who gives out higher donations. Announcing that he's no longer gonna do the patreon stuff is a great way to lose their fanbase.

>>1643324
>I don't understand how an image can bring up a lawsuit
It's a long explanation but the gist of it is that if you don't enforce your copyrights you may lose the ability to enforce them in the future if you take action if the plaintiff proves you ignored the opportunity to take action earlier.

And the easiest way to prove you're defending your copyrights is to go out and sue a couple people every now and then.

It's not as malicious as it sounds.

And if you're looking for someone to blame you can blame the government for not updating IP laws where artistic works don't enter public domain until 75 years AFTER their creator dies.

>>1643343
Thats if you own the the rights to said material to begin with. FOW owns non of what they make as they are assets of other comapnies games

>>1643353
What, are you saying StudioFOW is suing people who steal their shit? That sounds reasonable as it's their work but unreasonable as their entire product is built off borrowed assets.

It's hard to sue people for stealing your assets when some huge portion of the assets weren't yours to begin with nor did you credit the owners for using it. It's like taking someone to court for stealing your illegal drugs - you have no recourse, which is why criminals steal drugs or abuse prostitutes because they have no legal protections for doing what they're doing.

>>1643451
I meant for the 'email' DC received

>>1643473
Sorry, it seems like I have no clue what you're talking about. I don't see an e-mail on their tumblr and I obviously don't support them to see whatever it is on their Patreon.

>>1643473
and what is this email you speak of sir =)

>>1643479
Its on the Patreon

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>>1643489
hmmmm most interesting. =) well this is what happens when someone gets too big for there boots. and i dont recall FOW at any point in there movies giving credit to the companies of the assets they have used.

>>1643489
Alright, so they got too popular, didn't watch their steps, and the lawyers got it in their head to go hunting and they were the tallest blade of grass so they got cut first.

Whether or not we like StudioFOW or not, this was going to happen.

Everyone knows how protective SquareEnix (for Tomb Raider) and EA (for Bioshock) are of their properties. If I had to guess, it was them issuing the take-down.

I don't know, does parody and fair use count here? It has in the past. Except this time they're using it to make money, which suddenly would make it not okay.

>>1643511
not too sure of things myself but as you said it was bound to happen.

http://thesabu.com/

here is one guy who does all his own work based on the characters of games, comics and so on. but if you scroll to the bottom he clearly indicates that all characters belong to the respective owners. he only takes money for commisions and patreon, otherwise all his work is free and he is also very professional too. FOW doesnt carry that kind of respect

>>1643526
Yeah, StudioFOW never had those simple protections. All they had to do was put it on their site and it would have protected them.

Except they didn't. And it's not surprising that DC is not only a jerk but an incompetent jerk who was too stupid to talk to a lawyer for a day to clarify this shit or even look at his "competitors" to see what they do.

>>1643533
And companies will always target the more noteable ones to see if they are playing by the rules. i dont think FOW intended to cause any mess, but i do think DC has become careless in his arrogance and stress to keep fow going

>>1643561
I will give them the benefit of the doubt that they didn't intend to fuck up as they were doing what everyone else was doing.

It's just that if I was handed several hundred thousand dollars a year to run a business with no physical storefront and staff that was 100% dedicated to production and not having to give a shit about customer service, I feel like throwing a couple thousand at a lawyer one-time and an accountant annually to make sure I'm on the up and up seems like entry-level shit.

I don't know DC, but if he was surrounded by anybody even remotely competent they should have told him that. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a genius myself because I sure as fuck didn't notice. If anybody hated DC enough they could have ratted him and the company out years ago.

>>1643489
So what project of theirs got hit by this supposed DMCA?

>>1643577
My guess is Jessica since Disney is pretty well known for their cease and desists

>>1643580
They will probably just finish it and claim Chinese hackers stole it like they did Coliseum of Lust.

That or they will just release it anonymously like they did with the sylvanis video they did

>>1643586
Don't give DC any ideas since he might make that as an excuse of why the movie is not released.

>>1643573
i just checked both kunoichi 2 and code valentine and there is no mention of the companies whos assets they used, basically ignoring the fact. And one very blunt thing i noticed at the end of code valentine was the fact he used a song by marilyn manson from the resident evil movie. i mean WTF was he thinking. Sony entertainment own the rights to that music as well as the artist, SONY FUCKING PICTURES. it is fascinating how clumsey or damn right stupid can he be

>>1643580
Ahh good point, never thought of that. disney is one of the last companies you wanna piss off in terms of copyright

If it is the Jessica Rabbit video then they should get a model of Micky Mouse, and have him prank the video like they used to do with Scout.

>>1642877
it's sad to see something that was once pretty good slowly collapse in on itself.

>>1643580
Though I agree that Disney is heavy handed with their DMCAs I doubt it's for the Jessica video. Especially since the assets used in the video aren't owned by Disney. It's just an Elizabeth model with a "wig". If it's about just implying that it's her character then they've got a million other suits to file since everybody under the sun has created porn of Jessica Rabbit.
My money's on WB. They're producing Ready Player One and a lot of the assets in that movie are taken from the video game studios under their umbrella. Injustice, Batman, Mad Max, Mortal Kombat, etc. They probably caught wind of their models being used for porn just recently, and with a movie coming out using those same assets they probably want to "protect" their property's image and issued a complaint.

>>1643758
This >>1643594 also makes sense too. Sony is extremely protective of their properties.

>>1643489
>>1643577

Convinced this is Nintendo. FOW just recently released Zelda content, and have Metroid stuff as one of their big projects.

Nintendo has BOTW on stores, and are working on a Metroid game.

And they are trigger happy about DMCAs regardless of how popular or not somone is.

>>1643812
yeah but FOW did not over advertised it on its tumblr and they only had the video temporarily on its website.

hadn't they started to post raffle animations exclusively on their patreon? I thought the only way they got away with this was that they didn't charge for it. hopefully this dmca threat will keep them fucking honest.

>>1643489
This is what I don't understand how FOW can stay a float. They use trademarks and other companies IPs but they aren't parodying them. Yet they are making thousands on Patreon and at any moment with a snap of the finger all this work can vanish. They should adapt to Affect3d and make their own original content.

>>1644907
afaik it's because of parody law and because they don't directly charge for their content.

also if they made original content, without game models, most people would have no interest in their shit, including myself.

>>1644917
As long as they use SFM they will be limited to game characters. the only modeling FOW does is cutom rigs and repairs to existing models so they can animated them much better. there is a few small 3D smut companies out there that do there own characters and they are very succesfull indeed.

>>1644917
>>1644907

It's not parody. None of the porn on patreon directly based on IP falls under parody.

If you're directly using the characters, with no transformation, in non-educational/review settings, for purient interests, and for profit, you've failed literally every part of the parody test.

I swear to god people on the internet base their understanding of copyright on whatever their boner says is cool.

>>1645397
And what wisdom does your boner speak my friend =D

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>>1643812
>>1644682
There's BOTW porn floating around though with no one having been hit yet.

>>1646049
it understands how parody works in the actual legal sense instead of how fanboys who want to jerk off to porn of their waifus pretend it does

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I want them to do a Scarlet Night follow up, with Batgirl, and without the beast shit. They actually did a really good job with the atmosphere and background setup, and then bam, shit. I don't even know why they went beast. This is a setting with actual monstrous bad guys, like Croc, Bane and Clayface.

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>>1645397
all those porn parodies based on TV shows,super heroes and video games disagree whit this statement.

>>1646193
Because one of the reasons FOW got so big in the first place is because they appeal to fetishes that are more extreme/niche. Stuff (such as beast) which would normally be illegal if done on live film is not the case when it's all 3D models meaning the potential of getting away with more extreme stuff and broadening your viewer base.

I wouldn't lie that I enjoy beast stuff, it's one of the reasons I enjoy SFM stuff and FOW. To see women be fucked by creatures and treated less than the mindless creatures they are getting fucked by.

So when are they gonna make something with Quality that doesn't have monsters in it again?

Solid ideas is what they lack, helpfull if somewhat cold harsh critiqe is what they ignore, sucking up the the biggest patreon doners is what they prefe
They also speak of doinG VR in the futre and i ask WHAT FOR. its a gimmick that has not taken off like many were perhaps expecting, its expensive for anyone who is willing to afford such a device, and FOWs quality has been lacking enough that a VR FOW experience would be along the lines of the smelly garbage that comes out of steam greenlight.

>>1646616
>Studio FOW
>No monsters
anon, you really don't even know why FOW exists do you?

>>1624298
selfdrellings stuff actually looks robotic, good but robotic

>>1646681
>Can afford an expensive a +400$ Iphone or Android phone
>3$ cardboard or 20$ plastic VR headset is too expensive...

We talk about SFM here : the only result about the VR part is a 180° or 360° video so it don't require a HTC or Oculus rift stuff. But yeah... it will be kinda gimmicky here and unless they plan to make an other blowjob scene, it's quite useless.

>>1646208
Yes, and if the IP holders wanted to they could shut them down in a heartbeat. However, live action porn companies have deeper pockets than individuals making SFM loops on Patreon, and could make a fuss that would cost more than any lost revenue (which considering the IP holders don't make porn films is zero), as well as get in the news which would make people more aware of the porn versions and only attracted attention the IP holder would rather not have.

Just because someone else is getting away with it in different circumstances doesn't make it legally defensible. Again, this comes back to people not understanding how parody actually works. You see one type of violation that isn't pursued, so you think any kind is a-okay as long as you slap "Parody you can't sue me" on it like a sovereign citizen saying a cop can't arrest them because they personally don't recognize traffic tickets.

>>1643489
>>1643510
>>1643511
>>1643577
>>1643812
>>1644907
actually this was from blizzard because of the wow movie that they had to cancel. this is why dc salty as fuck and wont touch anything overwatch related

>>1647431
Must kinda piss him off that better animators are getting away with Overwatch shit.

>>1646989

He is typing words, but they make no sense.

>>1646193
they already said the next one was going to have a different theme ,it will be about Catwoman i believe.

>>1637797
People should have seen this coming, I too voted for Zelda but people voting for Cia took much needed votes away that Zelda could've used to win; however more importantly people not just FOW diehards have a big fetish for Jessica Rabbit. In the end it works out great for FOW cause they'd rather avoid making as much Nintendo stuff as they can cause of DMCAs. Hell that is why Royal Treatment isn't listed on their site and why they took down that they are working on Metroid.

Anyone have the latest 2B WIP, "2B Drilled Hard"? Would greatly appreciate the share.

>>1647640
it confuses me too bro xD. selfdrill is limited by the model's rig just like any animator is, but the way he goes about posing, scene design, camera choices and stuff is just EPIC =D

>>1647516
It's not other animators' fault that the dipshit didn't put a fair-use parody disclaimer on his website and you can't blame them either that they are smart enough to show that their Patreon account is separate from their distribution.

We can sit here all day and make up precautions that might offer zero legal protections from legal retribution like I ignorantly made up, but the ultimate take-away is that DC obviously didn't do anything to cover up his tracks using the most simple shit everyone else is using and he got on someone's shitlist. And the moment you're on someone's shitlist that's it; one strike and the next time you can't plead ignorance.

Why must all SFM shit only pander to deviant fetishes?

>>1649361
Folks like the risky stuff =)

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WIP fuck DC edition

>>1647373

One of these days someone is going to just drop the hammer and all these fucks siting FAIR USE are gonna get fucked harder than the girls in their vids.

And this goes for the whole youtube review or non profit fan based subscribe to our patreon parody too

>>1649361
Because nobody is spending money on vanilla smut. If you're trying to make money with porn it's going to be shitting dick nipples and dog fucking.

>>1652006
=) good 4chaner

>>1652006
When will DC realize how the internet works... Good stuff bro, appreciated.

>>1652006

kinda worried that k3 will suck. if you notice most of the ayane previews show her fucked by the same monster in the same room

hope its better than k2

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>>1653436
hopefully its better than k2

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>>1648108
probably late, but here you go bud

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>>1653647
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>>1653629
>>1653630
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>>1653659
Glad to see I'm not the only one sharing. didn't expect a 50+ patreon to do so desu

>>1642761
please tell me this is going to be mila as red riding hood being fucked by a werewolf

where tf do you download this?

Are there any OLD wips? There's something about the b&w look that I like about them also the behind-the-scenes.

I think the Isabella blowjob short is perhaps one of the most disappointing one. Runtime is 10:45, about five minutes of it is just fucking set-up shots/talking/credits. HALF of it.
Never get a good sfm of Isabella ever again.
Fuck FOW

All the blow job ones were boring as fuck i feel. you can easily have a few types of fetish in a simple 20 to 30 min movie. but no, wasting 10 or so mins on just POV BJ is what some FOW fans actually want. i dont believe DC for a minute when he claims the isabella blow BJ short was part of a BJ trilogy to begin with. BOLLOCKS xD

>>1654596
Their is plenty of solid up and coming smut creators out there to support dude. take back ya bucks from FOWfools and go support the newbie talent =D

>>1653436
I still think it's just one scene (and I think it's the final one). DC said that he would end the Kunoichi trilogy with Kasumi, Momiji and Ayane getting fucked side by side in a massive orgy (he said that on tumblr about a year ago). I think this room and these monsters are all screenshots of that "last" scene. Tho I hope that they'll manage to squeeze in a lot more scenes in around 30 minutes, and they'd better be more brutal than K1 and K2 combined, cos that's what their movies actually need. And judging by these gifs, I guess that's a new scene. I have a feeling K3 will lack that "final giant boss monster" like in K2 and Code Valentine.

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>>1653630
>>1653641


Thank you based 50+ anon!
Do you other WIPs for 50+ only? from before this

>>1653629
are these gifs wip or nah?

>>1653436
>kinda worried that k3 will suck.

Oh it'll suck but not for the reason you're worried about.

>>1655559
What reason are you specifically referring to, there's quite a lot of them LOL

>>1654184

I guess that's a FUCK YOU to DC chimping out

>>1653629
Even though I think your 50$ are wasted on fow, I do have to say fucking thank you, you're a top lad, you shared when you didn't have to.
But seriously 50 bucks for that? Bunch of vanilla not fully rendered loops, things like that are uploaded to rule34 by the dozens.
Now we wait and see what DC will do, will he cut all future previews? Maybe he will cancel everything and spare us the arguing and the anon's money.

>>1654596
To be fair a lot of FOW stuff as of late has been like that. Hell even the Zelda one took 4-5 minutes before it got to the damn blowjob part and it's a fucking 10 minute work.

I get that they want to try to inject some kind of plot to the porn, but at the end of the day if it ends up taking a heavy percentage of the film away from what could be more porn, you are sabotaging your own work with watered down bullshit no one cares about.

>>1649361
Because things that would normally be either questionably/illegal or just outright impossible to do in real life it's possible with SFM.

I mean hell, when was the last time Zone did something that was not something shoehorned in with tentacles?

When is the Nier one supposed to be out? It's higher up the list than ones that are already released.

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>>1643758
>They're producing Ready Player One and a lot of the assets in that movie are taken from the video game studios under their umbrella. Injustice, Batman, Mad Max, Mortal Kombat, etc.
WHAT?
Can you tell us more about it?
Is that project Monte Carlo?
>>1654197
Yep.
(where have you been all this time?)
>>1652006
>>1653629
>>1653630
>>1653641
>>1653659
The Steisand effect is real lol
Thanks man, much appreciated!

fuck!

>>1658042
I always found it odd how Selfdrilling just sort of came out of nowhere, and really good right from the getgo.

His work reminded me a lot of Blood8407's

>>1657621
FOw just dont know how the wrtioe a basic script at all. code valentine was the biggest pile of poop to be evidence of that

>>1659239
Blood8407 was a very unique fellow and will be missed very much indeed. selfdrill is that good because he simply cares about the most finest of details and realy does push SFM to do what many would consider to be a heache to achieve

>>1659392
What ever happened to Blopod8407 anyways?

He just sort of stopped making shit one day, and left, without saying anything.

>>1660278
Have no idea dude. his patreon is still going but he hasnt posted anything in a year. same as snip[. he left fow this year but hasnt posted on his patreon either for a year. good talent is vanishing intot he abyss =(

>>1660278
>>1660619
It's almost always college, or he found a more well paying stable job.

>>1658042
>dickgirl
what a waste.

>>1660704
Or something more likely. He just got bored of it.

>>1660619
-Snip
-Blood8407
-Vsmnd
-Marm(who was, imo, the original pioneer of SFM clips longer then like 3 second loops)

Looking at Rule34hentai's list of highest rated pictures, the most popular SFM artists on there include(in no real order)

-Leeterr
-PockYin
-Noname55
-Howl
-Ellowas
-Yeero
-Pewposterous
-Cake of Cakes
-Secazz

Including the ones whose top posts are almost all loli stuff
-Selfdrilling
-Ozzy
-Moneyshot
-Blood8407

>>1648357
>=D
get the fuck out of here

his stuff is too robotic

>>1661277
Hmm... Ellowas don't use SFM but Autodesk Maya.

>>1660789
shota

>>1659392
Little bit put off by the loli focus though. Would love to see something like that Ellie video with an adult chick.

>>1661277
98% of the most upvoted stuff is pedo garbage

>>1641104
No longer exist. All WIP images and clips are now gone. Since the leak cost a copyright situation

>>1641803
He isn't claimg the copyright, lawyers are coming after him for the incomplete files. Essentially, once released, he isn't making money off it, so it's a bare dodge of copyright infringement. It's no longer commercialized. Thus, fair use. But if they get him in development, he is making money at that point. So they can slap a cease and desist on him and charge him with copyright infringement if the file is released. Copyright law is a bitch and still frustrates me in uni.

>>1661277
I think Skudbutt is really good, maybe not in the animation department but the models he makes have always surprised me on how accurate they look. Same with BlenderKnight. They have found a niche they are really good at, and we only get good content out of them.

Also, as far as I am aware

-StudioFOW($31,095)
-Noname55
-Lord Aardvark($3,771)
-Secazz($3,316)

Are the highest paid SFM creators out there.

Noname hid how much money he was making some time ago, but back before he hid it, he was second only to FOW, and IIRc, hes still the highest one besides FOW.

And while I know he doesn't use SFM, Ellowas is the 5th highest that I know of, at $2,535 on patreon.

>>1662089
>And while I know he doesn't use SFM, Ellowas is the 5th highest that I know of, at $2,535 on patreon.
BlackJR is higher with 3,100

So what's this thread's opinion about a new talent in town?
https://sableserviette.tumblr.com/

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Newest WIP

Does anyone have any Helena wip? Like the BTS one. Curious if there is also Helena blacked.

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>>1614613
I'm so fucking ready for this honestly.

>>1663532

what date is it coming out?

>>1663842
The 31st

>>1662173
Very interesting, they understand physics and body weight, momentum and all that. Thank you for bringing them to my attention, am now following.

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>>1614613
Unrelated but this logo is just a modified College Football mascot.

>>1664138
is this nigger serious?

>>1664144
Ain't it fucking weird?

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I wonder how much longer for the mai one. Love that there's a model for her. Need more sf m of her

>>1664174
Porbably another 2 years. Dc did also mention a chun li one in the works, but as always he is shiut at keeping things on track. so anything annouced now or a year ago wont be ready until 2021 lol

>>1639295
I mean it might seem a bit weird but there is a fair bit of work

-writing/concepts
-3d artists augment models, rigging and blocking scenes out
-animators do the fine animation
-editors capture the final scenes and edit the movie together properly and do all post processing effects
-voice actresses and actors need to be paid generally the females aren't inhouse and have a steeper fee
- rent, equipment and utilities
- then a final profit cut likely around 30% for the studio itself since the movies themselves don't make money once released

I mean they were making the same shit with 20k so I assume aside from rolling some money back into the studio the majority of that extra 10k is just taken as pure profit by DC rather than paying for better talent.

>>1647516
For a while no one was getting away with it, remember when blizz was slamming every SFM artist under the sun with DMCA notices for creating 3D OW shit when it was first released. I imagine he just never wants to take the risk of starting a project to have it cancelled mid production given the high profile of fow shit.

im only one who would preffer 1 or 2 decent 20-30 min movies a year than spreading your shit for 5 half assed 20 second lopped animations streched with intro to 10 minutes and couple amusingly bad flash "games"?

btw for 30k u could hire (where i live) 50 ppl for full time and stil make a profit.

>>1664491
If it could be guaranteed that they would have a more concise release date that doesn't get perpetually postponed for months, then yes.

Also, i genuinely wish they'd stop doing those flash games too. Compared to what they usually make, the production value feels off. They just consist of five 3-second loops with an orgasm button and a shitty menu screen.

We can agree that if DC wasn't as much a s a bitch we could get better movies.

>>1664885
What is DC?

>>1664892
DarkCrow

>>1664892
Should've mentioned he spearheads StuidoFow

>>1664885
dunno actually, like the reason animators can render really smooth and life-like 3 sec clips is because they're just that, 3 secs. If they take them like 30+ hours to render and a lot of man hours to animate perfectly, I don't think you're ever going to see that kind of quality in a full sfm movie. At least not on a 30k/month budget and definitely not using sfm and cheap model ports

>>1665087
nah this is a load of bullshit
you can do it better if you can already do it better in short clips
you just have to.. now listen because this is funny
just try and work

Anyone here got mp3's of ZeroDiamonds patreon? Probably my favourite FOW VA.

Someone wanna redpill me on what the drama is?
And the deal w/ the copyright?

I'm confused.

>>1665209
Redpill you? DC is a jew and hoards all of FOW's money.

Actual happenings, nothing he is having a bitch-fit because his WIPs got leaked, everything else is excuses in an attempt to scare his patrons and leak anything else.

>>1665425
can't wait to see what he does when red riding hood leaks.

maybe he'll give up money grubbing and just release movies for everyone at the same time.

>>1665531
maybe he will give us money.

Now back to the real world, how long till the previews stop completely and he puts a paywall on releases.

>>1665544
I don't think he will, the guy might be a cunt, but he won't do that he's not as bad as some of the other sfm artists who paywall literally everything they release ever. Speaking of which patreon is cancer slowly killing open creativity on the internet, everyone has their hand out nowadays instead of just making shit for fun.

>>1666080
It went from a means of supporting artists you like with a few perks, to basically just paying for content like a sub to a porn site.

>>1665544
There will still be WIP's, but only for some of the movies (only for those he has an "agreement" with)

Am I the only one who is underwhelmed by 2B's movie? It seems that the only thing it'll be is Masturbation, Dickgirls, and monster all at once in the same location. It'll be like Code Valentine's Lab scene but extended for 10-20 minutes.

>>1666228
desu don't really care about location/plot etc

>>1666228
I just worry that by the time it's out I won't be interested in 2B anymore, I've already forgotten most of the game.

>>1664174
Not exactly hard to get a model of her, it's just her Dead or Alive one slightly modified.

>>1653647
>>1653659
Much appreciated my dude much appreciated

>>1666367
FOW do that with sooooo many of there models. and its more easy to spot these days too

so whats the deal is fow-chan actually a real person or just one of them assuming another identity on their social media

>>1670473
What the fuck do you think!?

Anyone got the "Snow Bunnies" WIP?

>>1670473
>>1670950

shes real