Bloodlust: Cerene / Affect3d discussion

https://webmshare.com/Pra6g

Part 2 of the intro: https://webmshare.com/vg91W

Part 3: https://webmshare.com/bQ6Be

Part 4: https://webmshare.com/NKYZm

Part 5: https://webmshare.com/YJbRA

Part 6: https://webmshare.com/QPnWa

Vampire was hot, the rest was pretty meh.

And the last one in the intro: https://webmshare.com/JGXqN

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And to finish, here is someone's clip from a previous discussion

We can also talk about Girlfriends 4 Ever though that is more of a /d/ material
Here is another webm:
http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2271435

Call me when it gets futa-on-girl/futa-on-futa

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>>1463024
It is already in the works. You can check the official forums for any updates.

>>1462756
There were 2 topics on this.

Conclusion was it sucked because Miro doesn't represent the fanbase anymore.

No futa = no sales.

>>1463045

I thought the same thing. Of course, none of us has a reliable information on the amount of Bloodlust: Cerene copies sold, but considering how fast he dropped the guy in favor of the two girls (that will be transformed into futas in the upcoming DLC), it must have been well below miro's original expectations.

There is an obvious improvement in visual department though, so I hope that will continue in his following works.

>>1463095

The plan was apparently always to do futa for the DLC, not as reaction to poor sales.

>>1463040
Why is she bald? Who's that chick?

>>1463188
It's a test render - the girl will have hair in the final version.

not sure if im allowed to post this but for people still looking and dont mind shit quality:
https://www.thumbzilla.com/video/ph592d66eb797bc/bl00dlust-cerene-by-affect3d

>>1463252
Some editing issues that were present in the original version you linked were fixed in a newer 1.1 version. BTW, that longer version (27min instead of 23) is available as a torrent.

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It's very hard to make a nice loop without a good editing software but here is one: a BJ loop

>That fuckhuge dick

Stop it please

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>>1464305
Whose, the girl's or the guy's dick?
BTW, one more BJ loop

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And one more that I missed

>>1462756
Because there is nothing to discuss. Bloodlust Cerene is overall underwhelming, but it's not terrible either. Just meh.

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>>1464641
You are right on that count, it simply wasn't my cup of tea (as a huge G4E fan). Miro created a larger team that could make animations in a shorter time period and cover his own shortcomings (check the credits of G4E DLCs and of BC), so where exactly did they screw up?
Some of the things did certainly improve but I still felt something was missing.

Was it the setting / story? The voice casting?
Animation quality / fidelity / lip syncing? Or the uninteresting sex poses and loops that are too short (though G4E also suffered from the latter)?

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Here is some G4E material since BC is not interesting enough for conversation.
This was my favorite part in the original G4E:
https://webmshare.com/9rvGD

>>1464302

>dick as thick as her neck
>deepthroats it
>no bulge

Lazy af

>>1464751

Can you post some loops of the extra scenes from the updated dlc

>>1464856
I only watched the updated version so I will have to check which scenes were missing from the original one.

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I think this one is mentioned as missing

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And this should be the second one

>>1462756
The reason why there are no threads is because the mods keep deleting them.

Also, Bloodlust was garbage. Waiting for the end of the year when the DLC releases.

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>>1465075
So, where do you put this kind of thread then? You can't put in on /h/ (not eastern in style) or /d/ (no D's or strange fetishes), so that could leave /gif/ as a candidate.
It simply seems that nobody is interested in this thing - most of the content came from me in the first place. It's a shame because it is visually stunning, but lacking in variety and in the presence of memorable scenes.

>>1465114
Well, you're right.
This board would be the best candidate. However, they're deleting the threads, so might I suggest another chan that starts with an 8 or 420.
Nobody is interested because nobody gives a shit about the setting, they just watch it for sexual satisfaction; and Bloodlust was a real letdown in that department.

I've been keeping an eye on the WIP threads over at Affect3d, and I believe that miro knows he fucked up, and he seems to be pushing the DLC pretty quickly. We'll see how long it takes him to release it, but I wouldn't hold your breath, though he mentioned the end of the year.

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>>1465236
One of the best and the worst things in Miro's works is the visual element, as the reason we will either have:
a) a long development period or
b) a lack of variety in scenes
in Miro's every following work is the time required to render the scene in high quality or to animate (and render) a long and unique animation.

In the pre-release interview one of the video editors (that is also the voice actor for the dude in BC) mentioned that it takes 6 minutes to render one frame of animation.
The final, uncompressed render of BC before it was scaled down to 1080p mp4 file was reportedly one terabyte.

Now, I don't have a background in 3d modeling, animation or video editing, so that sounds both very impressive and extremely time consuming.
I think they can speed up the process simply by adding more rendering stations, but that is a lot of money dedicated to hardware.

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>>1465236

>I believe that miro knows he fucked up

I worked for him and it's almost a classic case of "Founders Syndrome". Basically miro only likes and hires "yes men" so they're unlikely to tell him something sucks. Combine that with his own ego and you end up with the steaming turd called Bloodlust. I be surprised if he genuinely believes he fucked up, more likely it's just damage limiting PR.

>>1464943
>>1464955

Hot damn if he does one thing right it's titties. Goddamn the jiggle, bounce and look to them is perfect.

>>1465271
Yeah, but that kind of all sounds irrelevant when you're business is porn.

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>>1465281
I think I remember someone from the previous threads mentioning the same thing - was that you?

If so, if you don't mind me asking, what did you work on when you were collaborating with him?
You don't have to answer this if you think it would accidentally reveal personal information about yourself.

And yeah, Miro did always seem incapable to take genuine criticism at face value - that is why I'm not writing this on the official forum.

Are there any images of the vampire lady's face from the front, neutral expression? And profile?

And one of her front overall standing in a "natural" position. Not T-pose, not too flashy either. I might drawfag this.

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>>1465290
I think Melkor Mancin did the line art of the models.

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>>1465317
Here is one image where she seems to have a neutral expression. You may find better ones on the official website.

>>1465312

I rather not say who I am as that isn't really important. Anyway, the 4 main guys who worked for him at the time all had a mostly defined role (running the store, creating site content, etc) but because they were all 3d artists miro usually ran his creative decisions by them, had them error check his animation, critique things before they went public. You get the idea.

How the actual staff organisation went was: you kiss miros ass you get more work/money/priviledges, tell him when he's wrong you get less.

The end goal is to move the site and it's content to a subscription model with new clips/updates available monthly for subscribers. The DLCs can be thought of as the prototypes for how the content will be supplied monthly. Hence the production speed up-ramping. Clearly miro isn't there yet...but that's where things are going.

I wanted (and still want) this whole 3d porn thing to be a huge success, it's why I backed miro for a long while after I stopped liking him personally. Thing is I don't see how the current organisation and way of doing things will make it happen.

Thanks for those BJ webms. Saved me the time of downloading the damn thing.

>>1465428
That's a bummer. One would think that a well-formulated critique of one's work would be cherished instead of punished (though, he allegedly wanted one guy from the forum, IBT, to analyze the pre-release state of the future works).

Also, correct me if I am wrong, but I had an impression that Affect3d's success with G4E and the subsequent DLCs caused a shift in Miro's line of thought.
Instead of making a full-length, engaging animation with a romantic story (fingers crossed for an hour long G4E2) it looks like he is trying to transfer the bulk of the work to other capable animators, illustrators, modelers, VFX artists, and then sit and bask in the money coming from the Affect3D store.

>>1463252

Thanks for posting that. Glad I didn't download it.

>>1465454

Meh I'm not bothered anymore. Basking sounds like something he'd enjoy doing.

>>1465495
That's the all-to-familiar story of the artist that creates something unique and exciting, and then sells out or runs out of ideas.
But to be honest, the older I get, the basking variant sounds a lot nicer than the hard-work variant.

>>1465436
There is one more BJ scene with the vampire, but the loop is so short that there is no point adding it in.

>>1465428


That's a damn shame to hear! Especially since the first Girlfriend 4 Ever really gave me hope to the idea of successful high-quality 3d porn films.


And yeah I agree, the lackluster reception of Bloodlust, is already being spun on the main forum as "the vocal minority of haters diminished our clearly perfect creation's success." I mean, I get wanting to stay positive about your newest release but the moderator's/staff seem almost allergic to any criticism right now.


Also, since you at one point had a view behind the scenes would you know if there is ever any chance Miro might realize that this new course he is plotting might not be the best? Or will he run this new business model into the ground before admitting a mistake was made?

>>1462815

Anuses could be better. But cum physics is decent.

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>>1466024

OP here, I would also like to hear more from >>1465495

Also, I just wanted to add something else for the discussion:
Miro endgame is probably to establish Affect3d as a primary 3dx website for western 3dx artists, some of which were already working for him to create BC - Lord Kvento, Jessica Anner, 3dgspot guys and other 3dx artists mostly found on Tumblr (as well as Dmitrys and Melkor Mancin for illustrations). That would enable him to have a constant source of finances flowing in from the store - which is the porn equivalent of Valve with the Steam.

Miro did have a number of decisions that didn't work out in the end.
One of the things I remember distinctly was the video journal recapping the works that were produced that month or will come in the future month. He hired some famous and not so famous pornstars to stand in front of the camera and talk about those things. I am not sure how much money they asked, but he stopped doing that at one point - I can only presume he did that to attract the mainstream audience to the website.
BC seems to be an attempt to encroach on Umemaro's boy-girl territory, and at the same time to attract a budding female audience to it. The irony is that the cartoonish proportions of the characters (excluding Tara in G4E and Sophia in BC) with jaw-distending cocks and gravity-defying boobs are not as interesting to women as he may have originally thought. Virtual Lust (pic related) would be a much better candidate as the proportions are much more realistic in comparison.

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>>1462777
>https://webmshare.com/vg91W
>you... YOUUUUUUU

ahahahaha

>>1466758
It's cringy as fuck, but just ignore the dude. Vampire girl, Cerene, emotes very well - her voice actress did a good job. The other girl's voice actress - not so much.

>>1466024
Not the inside guy, but Affect3d is a small business and they'll either learn from their mistakes or fail entirely.

>>1466767
I disagree. I think the whole thing was a giant mess.

Anyone know how he animates? I've tried dabbling in the Daz animation thing but it's wonky as fuck and it's extremely unintuitive. The models just herky jerky all over the place.

>>1467009
He talks about it occasionally; uses different software, including Daz.
He knows his shit.

>>1466767
Cerene's VA sounds like the same chick behind Tara from G4E and Neva from Virtual Lust ( >>1466734 )

>>1467111
You're correct, that's Marie Fasolt. She started working with Miro all the way back in 2012 I think. Another girl, Pip, voiced the brunette in BC, and Sayako in G4E DLC.

>>1467141

Pip can be found on reddit where she records audio porn. /u/Pippitts

>>1466024

Inside guy.

Well the store is a money making machine. If you knew where miro lived you'd know he's rich af. So I doubt affect3d will shut down. If his own personal works tank then he'd probably just stop making those since they aren't really needed anymore.

>>1466734

The rest of what you said is pretty accurate but BC isn't really an encroachment on any particular artists territory. Miros idea was to engage the mainstream porn audience with relatively vanilla titles before creating more hardcore/fetish movies. Eg futa or boy/girl movies would come before orc/tentacle rape movies.

>>1467339
The funny thing is that I liked Pip in the role of Sayako (since she plays a role of a shy futa uncertain of her immense sexual prowess), but in a role of the Duchess Sophia, she fell flat with her performance. In my opinion, there are much better VA's on /r/gonewildaudio, my favorite being /u/Belle_in_the_woods.

>>1467357
I know it is selfish of me, but I don't really care about the content of his upcoming projects (and the overall kinkiness of those works) as long as I get my favorite futa-female pairing (Sayako-Tara) in the next G4E.
What can I say - I'm a sucker for mushy yuri romantic crap.

>>1467357
Oh, one more thing I wanted to ask you - excluding Miro's obvious personal flaws (overinflated ego and everything that comes with that), what's he like as an animator?
Do you know if he took college courses in animation and 3d modeling, or is he a self-taught artist?

>>1467420

He's self taught.

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>>1467436
That's impressive! If there is one thing I definitely liked were the visually-stunning locations. Can you guess what amount of 3d modeling and environmental design work does he does on his own (or creates from scratch), and what amount he either gives to other people to work on, or simply takes from Daz3d and other similar websites?

>>1467454

The majority of those locations can be purchased from the Daz store or Renderosity. People who don't do 3d don't realise how much fancy premade stuff is available. He isn't sculpting cathedrals or people from scratch, it's mostly modifying existing locations/human models.

I thought bloodlust was pretty good. I liked both characters. The story could be interesting if there is any corruption involved.

Cerene is hot.

>>1467596
Good to hear, the locations were so breathtaking that I was honestly jealous of his artistic capabilities. Now I'm simply jealous of the amount of money that, by your account, he earns from the store.

If I may ask, why did you decide to leave Affect3d? Did he pay you guys enough or forced you too work too much? Or was he too pushy or full of himself so you couldn't tolerate his behavior anymore?
I want to know those things so I could mentally prepare myself for the possibility of G4E2 failing to reach my high expectations :D (I was following the 5-year development of Mass Effect: Andromeda - and you can see how that turned out).

>focuses on the single most generic guy miro could've possibly used
>no futa vampire
>no corrupting the princess into a futa vampire
it's like he doesn't even know who he's marketing to

>>1467743
I think those concepts (corruption, cock growth, futa-on-female and futa-on-futa) will be the focus of the following DLCs.
Miro misjudged the amount of people willing to give their money for a short, boring (and nice-looking) vanilla boy-girl 3d porn.

>>1467357
This guy claims that Miro's intention is to start with vanilla stuff and continue creating kinkier content later on.

>>1467715

Toxic work environment, very clique-y. Pretty much like being in highschool...the money wasn't worth the hassle of dealing with those guys anymore.

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>>1465428
No chance this lazy motherfucker can get a subscription model started lol, the reliability of updates would be worse than the PIT's patreon page.

>Love 3D porn more than any other kind
>Of course the creator of the best stuff available is some insecure little homo who refuses critique and is overall just a greedy cunt

Why. Why can't ONE person who does this type of stuff be both professional, kind and open to genuine feedback while still trying to follow his own vision? Fuck man.

>>1467769
Well, I certainly hope you are in a better place now.

Although I don't have as high of opinion on Miro as I used to (before the G4E DLC launch event that took a good 6 months to come to an end), I still want to believe that they will succeed in making something amazing in the future.

He almost reminds me of Steve Jobs - a self-made millionaire and visionary/douche that founded a company offering something that was unique at the time.

>>1467873
As I mentioned before in this thread, that's the all-to-familiar story of an artist that creates something unique and exciting, and then sells out or simply runs out of ideas and creative drive.

>>1467873
Because it's the smut industry, and it attracts pieces of shit.

>>1467769
Is that why you quit Supro?

>>1468040
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Supro's (or Intrigue3d's) site still mentions Affect3d as one of their website's friend, and Affect3d Store is still selling Supro's work.

That would mean that Miro and our insider anon (that you think is Supro) separated amicably, so he would have no reason to give the kind of information that could also compromise his own financial well-being.

I'm not interested in the identity of the insider, and there is really no way to fact-check his claims, so I'll take everything here with a grain of salt. But Miro has shown his immaturity time and time again, and if Miro is planning all that stuff our insider mentioned here >>1465428 , he certainly wouldn't admit it here or to any forum poster (and he would likely permaban them).

That is why I wanted to facilitate the discussion outside of Miro's reach.

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>>1463040
added another helping hand to the equation

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I really like how Cerene looks haughty in every scene.

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>>1468470
copy that, but the dude ruins every scene.

>>1467873
>Why. Why can't ONE person who does this type of stuff be both professional, kind and open to genuine feedback while still trying to follow his own vision? Fuck man.

If they were capable of that, they wouldn't be a creative type. They're outright mutually exclusive. Neither I nor anyone else I've ever met has seen or even heard of a person with both.

>worked on the business end of marketing for decades. Business sense and artistic creativity simply don't exist in the same person at the same time.

>>1468544
What? You don't like Johnny Rico?

>>1468623
The male character looks like an autistic representation of what a 3D modeler would think a female would be into.
I cringed through most of the work.

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>>1468623

Oh fuck now I can't unsee him.

>>1468563

Miro is a fantastic animator (by all accounts) and also an entrepreneur since he (as far as I know) is the founder of Affect3D/Affect3D Store, which worked out great for him - if you choose to believe what the alleged insider anon said here >>1467357

I would actually say that his desire to expand his business (insider anon talked about that here >>1465428) is more of a concern to me.

Speeding up the process of making 3d erotica that covers a variety of normal (and also some less common) kinks and fetishes, so he could publish his works on a monthly basis sounds awesome in theory.
If his end goal is a high-quality 3dx porn that can be obtained only through a website that follows a subscription model, that sounds to me as something that could be even more profitable. I never worked in business, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I main fear is that Miro's passion towards making some excellent animations will inevitably be replaced by the desire to obtain more and more $$$ (if that already didn't happen).
It reminded me of Valve and Steam - a company that made some amazing stuff in the past that is now using a their own store to create a ridiculously large profit, giving their original audience a faint promise that they will again create something reminiscent of their early work (HL3 never ever).

>>1469126
To be honest, I would hate a guy regardless of his physical appearance.

>>1470169
This is the reason I don't like porn. This is the reason people like futanari. This is the reason people liked G4E.

>>1468623

I though he looked like "two tone malone"

>>1470244
>>1470308
I really want to know if there are any femanons in this thread willing to give their own point of view related to the attractiveness / ugliness of the dude.

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Here's a cumshot I promised a while ago, hopefully that will revive this thread.

>>1470928
That looks so fucking retarded

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Here is another cumshot - I probably won't post any more clips or loops as there is no interest in it.
I hope the insider anon returns and/or somebody else than me chooses to contribute something to this discussion.

>>1470928
This gave me autism.

>>1471477
The potential this scene could have had.

I like the expression on her face, but the dude is cringe material.

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>>1472676

Here is last one from me - this is the outro where the vampire girl reveals that the duchess was watching everything for the whole time.

These two girls will end up in a futa-on-girl or futa-on-futa DLC (sometime this year) so hopefully that will be more interesting than the original one was.
You can check the progress of DLC on the official forum.

Unless somebody else wants me to post some other scenes, it would be best to leave this thread to die.

>>1473805
>Duchess liked it

Nice.

>>1470169>>1470244

that's... a pretty pathetic way to look at things.

>>1474304
>People don't like looking at guys in porn

Woah.. so "pathetic".

>>1462756
Heh, that's my post. Anyway bump for futa updates...

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>>1471477
>didn't creampie in her ass
also, checked

>>1474719

That futa DLC could possibly take another 6 months to make it. Miro said he will finish it this year, but as we all know his assessments are usually way of the mark.


>>1474304

Well, you are not wrong - futa is a way for a man to not feel threatened by another man's junk and still get to enjoy watching penetrative sex with a cumshot (that you can't get when watching lesbians).

I mostly disliked the guy from a story perspective, so no matter how objectively good-looking he was, I would still think that he is a massive douche. And I can't jerk off when I have to listen to that douche moaning.

>>1474561
Good job, you found a fag.

ITT: crying about a developer not representing your own interests.

>>1475026
>An artist acquires a following with a niche fetish
>An artist makes a shitty piece of work that does poorly and is completely unrelated to niche fetish
>Followers get angry
What's got you so butt blasted, faggot?

>>1471477
but.. i'm interested

So I guess in summary I would say Bloodlust fails to deliver. I thought the enviroments were nice and the blonde vampire lady does look extremely good, but Miro really fucked up with some of these animations. There's some truly laughable shit here that absolutely destroys my arousal. A couple of the scenes were okay, but nothing too good.

How about Girlfriends 4 Ever though? Anyone got any clips of their favourite scenes from that?

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>>1475709
yes, it fails, but he's not the only one to take the guilt; this was the 1st work as a team as he already stated and anyone can see it at the credits; this bloodlust was a thing to practice for them and unlike tara and sayako that instantly clicked, mistakes were made and we can only hope the next one as a team they are now, comes with less flaws and the next one after that will show better results and so

think it like umemaro now: he's in production of the new shoko one but before that we had like 3 no t so great ones becase he was testing his new software to getting used to it to be ready to take sugimoto the treat she deserves; i know its not the exact thing to compare but somewhat near to understand that they need to screw things to fail less the next time

>>1475100
>>1475709

I will try to add more loops and scenes in the future from both G4E and BC if you want.

How fast do you guys think they'll get this DLC out?
Miro seems pretty motivated at the moment.
I'm thinking November or December, as he seems pretty set on releasing it this year.

>>1476427

It supposedly took him about 14 months to make Bloodlust from "scratch" (i.e., taking the premade models, locations and decorations from Renderotica and Das, and heavily modifying them).
Since everything is already made for the Bloodlust DLC, the bulk of the real work is delegated to the animation team. The rendering part is the bottleneck that will determine how fast we will get the DLC - the more rendering stations you have, the faster you will render.

You probably noticed that (in both G4E and in BL:C) Miro doesn't have a lot of long unique animations (since they take a while to make) so he makes a 3-7 second looping animation and picks a few angles to render.

So if he can render faster, we could see this DLC in this year, but don't forget, this IS Miro we are talking about - deadlines are meaningless to him.

>>1476033

Does umemaro have a blog? I've never been a huge fan (due to the censorship) but sugimoto is hot af

>>1475075
Crying, entitled closet faggots who like to look at dicks on chicks are obviously the once dreaming about getting butt blasted.

>>1477033
And the angry projecting homosexual that comes into these threads to try and look like an asshole--what is he?

A creator made a specific genre of porn, he stopped making that porn, people got upset. If you weren't so autistic and didn't get frustrated by everything, you'd understand basic human emotions.

>>1477033
>entitled
People pay for this shit. They're entitled to all sorts of things.
>closet faggots
What's gay about chicks with dicks in porn?
People don't call straight porn gay, but there's a guy in it.

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If everybody here decided to cool off with the "futas are gay" discussion I'll start uploading G4E webms.

Unlike Bloodlust: Cerene, that was published in a form of a movie, G4E and the two DLC were originally made to be watched in Adobe AIR. That means that the animation loops are premade and my only job is to convert them to webm format. Here is one of my favorites from the original G4E.

>>1477138
Post the one of the futa chick with extra big breasts.

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Here's the handstand animation. If someone has a request for a particular scene or a specific angle of a previously posted animation, they can ask for it and I'll try to post it.

Also, this is meant to be a discussion board for Affect3d works, so feel free to discuss anything you want related to that (except the never-ending "Is futa gay?")

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>>1477143

My video editor software refuses to upload the some of the bonus scenes, including that one. I have no idea why though.
I tried changing the file name and the partition where the file is - nothing worked.

Here is the normal version of that scene as an apology.

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Here's another one of my favorites.

That was pretty good. A stalemate that will hopefully go into a lightning round with the three of them. NOICE! O>o

>>1464851
She doesn't deepthroat it. Judging by the angle she deepskulls it. She probably has no brain.
This is why I can't fap to this.

>>1476033

Miro already worked to some degree with other people to create the original G4E and with even more people for the creation of the two DLCs.

Our (now missing) insider (>>1465281)
was probably a member of the original team that left because of Miro's ego growing too big after the success of the whole G4E phenomenon. And I don't use the word lightly - no one has, up to that point, made something of such a high quality.

It's always good to learn from your mistakes, so hopefully Miro will stop with his ego trips and utilize his expertise in animation (as well as the abilities of his colleagues) to create an amazing follow-up to this disappointing entry.

However, I am already concerned for the Bloodlust DLC. Check the image here (>>1468434).
Cerene's dick is grotesquely wide and long -
penetration of any kind will ruin any attempt for the audience to suspend their disbelief. Her dick is as thick as Sophia's neck!

>>1477286
tx for the dump anon

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>>1477324
No biggie, I just want to create an atmosphere where people can say what they think of Affect3d's works.

>>1477340
great,I like G4E

>>1477355

So do I, so we could try and create a conversation about G4E and what made us like it.

For anyone reading that liked G4E I have a question.
What would you like to see in an ideal sequel to G4E? More story and dialogue, more sex scenes and positions, more girls/boys included?

>>1477388
I want to see better quality material. I don't mean to sound tilted, but even Bloodblust was poor in visual quality.
I'd also like to see some kind of integrated software where you, the viewer, has control of the camera angles, including a free-roam camera.
Also, I'd like to see some integration for VR.
Ultimately, I'd like it to be sort of like Honeyselect, where you can choose the models,textures, clothes, body details, etc; and then have them act out various sex positions.

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>>1477388


>OP

Since I asked the question in the first place it would be appropriate for me to start the conversation.

Since we talked at length about the good/bad things in Affect3d's workflow/organization and their possible future plans, we could now switch the conversation and talk about why we liked Girlfriends4Ever in the first place.


>Why I started this thread

This clip is one of my favorite scenes in G4E and 3dx in general. It's nothing raunchy or mind-boggling. but that's the reason I started to regularly follow Affect3d.

It's simply a scene of two women (if we say that futa is a girl with something extra) talking and making out. That is what I saw - a story of two women that began their relationship from a purely sexual standpoint (I wonder if you remember Tara's Assignment 2) and eventually fell in love (at the end of the DLCs).

So, what I desired was a direct continuation of that love story.


> My idea for G4E2

In G4E2 Sayako and Tara officially became a couple and they naturally choose to continue with their sexual escapades, but now as a couple.

They start including other women, men (though Miro said he will never mix futas and men in the same work) and even other futas in their pursuit to explore and fulfill their new desires and fantasies.

They have sex in different places (even public places - restaurants, parks, etc.), and start including various other kinks (like BDSM) and fetishes to find new limits to cross together.

There was a wonderful erotic story on the forums written by a girl nicknamed "Chaz". She developed those characters in a way I personally loved, so her story is what I would like for G4E2 to be based on.


>Now you guys

So, how do you imagine a sequel to either Girlfriends4Ever or Bloodlust:Cerene, and what places would you like those sequels to explore and expand on?

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>>1474744
Perfect reaction 'image' until he stood up. Way too long.

>>1468470
>>1471477
>>1464955
>>1464943
These webms show very well a problem I have with the Cerene model. Her legs. They're way too slim. Her ass is nice and plump though which makes it look like she has butt implants. There's no way to naturally attain an ass that nice without the thigh muscles similarly bulking up too.

Sayako has the same exact problem as seen here (>>1477153 >>1477169 >>1477286) and in ways its worse since her dick draws the eye down to that level where its overdone size creates a jarring contrast. Comparatively Cerene's main assets are her chest and face.

Tara (and to a lesser extent the Sophia) doesn't have this problem because they have slimmer, less exaggerated builds. >>1477138 >>1477340 This isn't an argument against having super endowed characters (although I really don't like the giant clunky dicks, Sayako would look better at half her current length) it's an argument for beefing up the build of those that are. Tara works because she's proportionate, Sayako and Cerene aren't.

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>>1477953

Thank you for answering my questions. As far as I understand, VR, free-roam camera and customizable models would be highly impractical for him to try to implement.

The reason is that he would have to create an application that can render everything (environment, models, effects, liquids) in real-time.

Somebody more educated in this subject could probably explain it far better than I did, but I don't think we will ever see Miro making a Honeyselect-like game.

>>1477992
All he needs to do is use an engine, like they do in videogames. There's open-sourceware if he wants to be Jew.

>>1477967

You are absolutely correct in your assessment of the proportions of his characters. I just write it off as his style of designing models. Virtual Lust, for example, has characters with relatively realistic proportions.

Now, for some obscure reason, I don't really have a problem with Sayako's endowment, but I am absolutely repulsed by Cerene's dick proportions - check the size of that thing here >>1468434

>>1470928
I started laughing and lost my boner

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>>1478021
I think I can see why. Sayako's dick, as big and as long as it is, still looks like it belongs to her. The head, the girth, the size of her balls, etc, all fit with the size of everything around them. Granted I don't like how oversized it is, but it still fits in the role of "giant cock."

Cerene's on the other hand is big in everything to the point it looks like a regular dick that's been up-scaled. It looks like one of those less than stellar photoshop jobs where a regular sized dick is inserted into a picture it doesn't fit. Cerene's dick doesn't look like it belongs in that reality let alone between her legs. I'd actually posit Cerene's dick could look even better than Sayako's if it were again half as big as it is now, since it's proportionate, but just too damn blown up in its current size to look like it belongs anywhere.

I'm a big fan of the golden futanari mean where the cock and breasts project about the same distance from the body. It mimics a realistic proportion, blends the bodyshapes together seamlessly, and in turn forces the eye (and mind) to simultaneously contrast and compare the tits and cock on the same body.

I'm fine with ass-implants, big fake tits and bimbos. But I need more futas.

Miro, hurry up you lazy shit.

>>1478109

I couldn't put my finger on it, but you just explained it perfectly.

Sayako, although oversized did not break my suspension of disbelief - Cerene, however does that with her 14,9x[Sophia's neck]'' cock.
Miro should scale the dimensions down at least to two-thirds of the original ones (something like 10x6'').

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starting the week

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Here is another one of my favorites, mostly because of the eye contact between Sayako and the imaginary audience.


>>1478136

We'll have to wait for quite some time - he just started making the DLC.


>>1478253

It is a nice position but I still think Cerene's dick is still way out of proportions to fit in Sophia's butt

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And one more...

>>1477322

>Our (now missing) insider

I'm still here, but there isn't much for me to contribute

>>1480015


I am very glad to hear from you again! I was afraid that someone in this thread has accidentally revealed your identity.

Since we talked at length about Affect3d's possible future plans for expanding their audience, as well as their organizational structure (and the sycophancy present within), I would like to switch the conversation to G4E.


As you probably were a part of Miro's team during the creation G4E or it's DLCs, what are your opinions on it?

> Do you personally like material (futa-on-female)?

> Did you like the proportions of the two main characters and aesthetics in general, (environments, lightning, fluids etc.)?

> Did you have an influence in creating the storyline for G4E, and (regardless of whether you did or didn't influence Miro) how did you imagine that love story between Sayako and Tara panning out?

> If you were a part of Affect3d's team and were given free reign of their next project, what sexual subject and kinks or fetishes would you like that project to include?

> Would you like to cooperate with Miro (and Affect3d) again if he tried to improve as a person (no more ego stroking required)?


You can take as much time as you want answering those questions. You can also check and answer these questions if you want (>>1477388)

>>1477388

No-one has revealed my identity. It's not important anyway.

> What would you like to see in an ideal sequel to G4E? More story and dialogue, more sex scenes and positions, more girls/boys included?

Futa on regular female gangbang, definitely would like more positions than g4e.

> Do you personally like material (futa-on-female)?

It's not one of my big fetishes but if I'm in the mood for it then it's hot.

> Did you have an influence in creating the storyline for G4E, and (regardless of whether you did or didn't influence Miro) how did you imagine that love story between Sayako and Tara panning out?

Sayakos body is really sexy and Taras butt is cute but (and he's left meetings when this is said to him)...they're both "butterfaces" imo. Sayako especially looks like she has had bad plastic surgery, he's getting better at faces judging by Bloodlust but they're still a little unnatural looking.

> Did you have an influence in creating the storyline for G4E, and (regardless of whether you did or didn't influence Miro) how did you imagine that love story between Sayako and Tara panning out?

Tbh I'm not interested in porn with a plot, dialogue and plot exposition scenes are taking time away from fucking lol.

> If you were a part of Affect3d's team and were given free reign of their next project, what sexual subject and kinks or fetishes would you like that project to include?

I'd like something more hardcore that doesn't pretend to be anything more than something you fap to. Something with monsters and rape would suit me.

> Would you like to cooperate with Miro (and Affect3d) again if he tried to improve as a person (no more ego stroking required)?

That's a tough one, I was good at what I did so it was easy money and there were some good times. On the other hand I don't see how it could happen. Miro has "fuck you" money now and a legion a of drooling fanboys ready to cater to his needs. Times have changed if that makes sense

>>1480406


Thanks for answering all of the questions.


> Futa on regular female gangbang, definitely would like more positions than g4e.

It is interesting that our opinions greatly diverge on the topic of what we imagine the next G4E should focus on.

The real decision still lies in Miro's hands, but since you mentioned him trying to coax the larger audience into various 3dx porn niches (tentacles, monsters, orcs) it is more likely he will chose the hardcore-gangbang option.

Well, too bad - I'm a real sucker for lovey-dovey shit and I hoped that G4E will focus on that.


> Sayako's body is really sexy and Tara's butt is cute but (and he's left meetings when this is said to him)...they're both "butterfaces" imo. Sayako especially looks like she has had bad plastic surgery, he's getting better at faces judging by Bloodlust but they're still a little unnatural looking.

As for the faces, Tara does have some uncanny valley shit going on with her face (even more when she is giving a blowjob and it looks like she has no jaw), but I don't have such a bad opinion on Sayako's face (it it still occasionally weird though).
The idea of Miro storming out of e-meetings is hilarious even if I don't think Tara and Sayako are butterfaces.
Now, Cerene's face is definitely an improvement, with Sophia trailing behind, and Tristan getting the shittiest facial animations in Bloodlust - but honestly, I would hate looking at Tristan anyways.


There is little else to add after everything you've said so far. We'll just wait see if this DLC will redeem Miro.

So, insider anon: thank you for your time and insight and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.


Now if anyone else has something to add to the thread feel free to do so. I'll still check this thread occasionally and try to respond to requests. You can also answer some of the previously asked questions here (>>1477388) and here (>>1480192) to keep the thread going.

anyone got a download link?

>>1480406
>Monster rape

Fuck off.

>>1477967
Do you have the second part of this webm?

>>1480578

Check >>>/t/774212


>>1480583

Chill dude. You can certainly disagree with his tastes (as did I) but you don't have to be a dick about it.


>>1480589

I didn't post that, but I know that this scene is several minutes long. If you want, I'll try uploading the scaled down version to webmshare.

>>1470928
wtf why does her butt grow when he cums

>>1480704

Holy shit, I didn't notice that at all!

>>1480704
Looks like an oversight but fuck me if it doesn't make her even hotter. God fucking damn I love her entire design.

>>1480704
Kek. Good fucking eye anon.

>>1469755
>Miro is a lazy-ass animator (by all accounts)
You misspelled, I corrected it for you.

>>1481085

I never equated the quality of his work to the work of any professional animators/modelers that are working in film/game industry.

Miro is not working in those industries, he is making smut - in that regard, he must have did a relatively good job to be able create Affect3d Store from the profit he gained through G4E.

There are better western 3dx animators for sure, but none of them are as financially secure as Miro's currently is (except maybe Animopron). So Miro can easily spend a lot of time improving his shortcomings - whether he will do so is questionable.

>>1477286
Could I request a clip of the different angle of this shot? I hope I can describe it well enough. It's like the camera is positioned on the floor, you can see the couch they're on, and the camera is in front of them. You get a great head-on shot of Tara's face while Sayako's tearing her up and the way Sayako looks just fucking turns me on to no end (d-don't judge me). Thank you.

>>1480589
>>1480623
pls respond

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>>1478253

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>>1481801

What you described sounds like this shot.

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>>1481834

This scene is pretty long, so I'll split it in several parts.

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>>1482393

Here is the continuation of that scene. BTW, Miro repeats some animations from different angles, so I threw out one part in between - nothing was lost.

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>>1482411

And another one...

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>>1482450

One more...

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>>1482473

Then the scene switches to autofellatio.

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>>1482488

Well, technically a blowjob, but just wait a bit.

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>>1482499

See what I mean?

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>>1482507

So it continues...

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>>1482531

Back to blowjob again...

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>>1482545

I told you this scene is long.

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>>1482554

First-person view of Sayako getting a BJ.

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>>1482571

And a first-person view of Sayako giving herself a BJ.

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>>1482593

And one more before the cumshot...

>>1481170
My guess is that the majority of his money comes from the same people who likes all the porn with fugly plastic whores. I have never been able to fap to porn where the girls look like they went to Pedro's BBQ & Cosmetic Surgery, especially not of it's 3d (since then it's easy to redo a botched job). I doubt he'll never improve (he's getting experience from working, as seen in Bloodlust which does have better looking faces than GF4E, though they are still fugly in my book), but I also doubt that he'll ever deliberately try to improve. Why try to make tits that look nice when the majority of the audience is satisfied with the look of botched boob job in the size of cow udders...

I keep watching his shit because I hope that he'll make something good, but so far he has been to busy masturbating his ego to make quality smut.

>>1482628

Well, I don't think he will ever come close to making female and male bodies with realistic proportions - but why would he do that?
If you want realism, you can either go and watch real porn or follow other 3dx artists (Virtual Lust is a good example of well-proportioned 3dx porn).

Two things I hope he continues to improve on are the faces (Cerene already had some great facial animations in comparison to other 3dx movies) and liquid simulation (making cum that actually sticks to surfaces and dribbles down).

>>1465326
'preciate the nut, pal

>>1482323
Sophia looks like a nig in this angle.

>>1482834
I'd love to watch Cerene fuck a thick black girl.

I want to see some gameplay before buying this

>>1482839

Here you go anon, these are all posted Bloodlust:Cerene webms from this thead:

>>1462768
>>1462777
>>1462784
>>1462791
>>1462797
>>1462800
>>1462804
>>1462815
>>1464302
>>1464313
>>1464353
>>1464943
>>1464955
>>1468470
>>1470928
>>1471477
>>1473805
>>1476033

Does anyone have a torrent where i can download g4e with the dlcs, never found a good one so i never watched the whole thing.

>>1482941

>>>/t/772649

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>>1482620

Here's the beginning of the cumshot scene.

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>>1483462

Continuing the scene...

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>>1483467

Another one...

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>>1483481

The fluid simulation wasn't the best but it was decent enough.

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>>1483462
>>1483467
>>1483481
>>1483492
strange how dated this work is, even though it only came out a year and a half ago.

Do you have the webm where she pops a boner from the DLC 2?

>>1483492

And a final part uploaded to webmshare with sound added. I'll respond if anyone has any other requests.

https://webmshare.com/yY1zB

>>1483505

The scene at the very beginning? Do you want it with sound or without?
And, yes, it does look silly and dated (especially cum).

>>1483520
sound isn't necessary.

On another note, miro seems pretty active on the forum. He also seems pretty enthusiastic about getting the work going, and taking many suggestions from people.
really makes you think.

>>1483529

Will post it soon. As far for Miro's recent burst of activity, I interpreted it as an attempt to regain audience that he lost with Bloodlust.

I also have no idea how he thinks he can use Cerene's dick (that is as long as Sayako's and twice or thrice as thick) for anything else than for comedic purposes.

>>1483529
>>1483536

And here you go: https://webmshare.com/QPbEL

It's much easier for me to put it on webmshare where the size limit is increased to 10MB, instead of trying to find the right cuts to adapt to the retarded 3MB file limit.

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>>1483554
thanks.
It's like an alien or something.

>>1483656

All-in-all, we'll wait and see if the DLCs are any better.

The funny thing is that I would personally support the separation of the two IP's - Bloodlust for boy-girl porn, and G4E for futa porn.

That is probably what he wanted originally, but Bloodlust (most likely) flopped and now he is adapting it to include futa too - simply because he doesn't have enough time to make G4E2 so he could recuperate.

Or maybe I'm too much of a cynic.

>>1483515
what version is this?
Mine doesn't have the music.

>>1483789

That's a mp4 version of the G4E DLC 1 - I don't recall if a flash version of G4E had the music included.

>>1483799
Interesting.
They need to rework this shit and release a 1080p version.

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Just got into 3D animated porn, it's amazing.
Also found an artist called rikther that made a porn called secret of beauty or stone princess.

It got orcs but still top tier quality.

>>1483801

Wouldn't count on that because it would probably be required to render everything again in 1080p - Miro would waste a lot of time doing that.

The next time you'll see those two girls is when the new G4E 2 comes out.

>>1483852
Naw man, you could just outsource the work to China for a small fee.

So is there only gonna be one futa in the DLC, or will we finally get some futa on futa?

>>1484084

To my knowledge, the first DLC should be only futa-on-girl, and the next one futa-on-futa, but who knows? Maybe we'll have both in the first DLC.

Let's try and discuss on a discussion thread.

I had several questions that I've asked our insider anon, but I think everybody can give their own opinion on it.


So tell me:

> How would you rate both IPs (Bloodlust and Girlfriends) using a 1-10 scale? What are your main reasons for giving such a grade?

> How would you try to continue with the Bloodlust IP. Would you keep it boy-girl only and add more vampires, knights, monsters etc. or try something else?

> What would you like to see in an ideal sequel to G4E? More story and dialogue, more sex scenes and positions, more girls/boys included?

> If you had an influence in creating the storyline for the next G4E, would you transform it into a romance or keep it pure smut?

> If you were a part of Affect3d's team and were given free reign of their next project, what sexual subject and kinks or fetishes would you like that project to include?


You can answer those questions or request new loops if you want to keep the thread going.

>>1483492

Do you have the sayako/ayako animations from the DLC update?

>>1485492

Yes I do, I'll upload it when I'm not too busy.

>>1485492
>>1485504

Here you go: https://webmshare.com/jzxed

>>1485668
Futanari twincest is the best kind.

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>>1485759

>>1485668

Thanks anon!

>>1485922

My pleasure!
If you want, you can answer some questions asked here (>>1485005) or request another scene to keep the thread going.

>>1485668
damn son, that's good shit.

>>1485668

Was there no bj scene?

>>1486067

There is no animated Ayako/Sayako BJ scene as far as I'm aware.

>>1485005
Bloodlust I'd give an 8. I really enjoyed it. Both women were very pretty and had great scenes with good positions.

I'd have prefered a few more positions with Celene. But overall I liked the presentation and how this was supposed to be a somewhat serious story with potential for updates. I think the penis sizes are a bit riddiculous in both titles though.

I'm fine with the futa on female for the bloodlust DLC. Celene has magic powers and she can use them on the girl. I wouldn't mind adding more female vampires cause why not.

My thing-- corruption. I love it. So celene should corrupt one of the characters then the corrupted character should the non corrupted character.

Then Id definitely want to see some transformations afterwards. I'd love Celene to turn into a succubus similar to Kerrigan's HotS succubus variant. That is basically what I want. Then futa on female of that variation.

There. My secrets laid bare on the internet.

>>1485005
>What would you like to see in an ideal sequel to G4E?

One of the things I like about Bloodlust is that it does a better job than G4E at establishing a scenario and providing a context in which the "action" takes place.
You can say the setting of Bloodlust is somewhat squandered as not that much is done with the vampire theme, but it's still much better than what we got in G4E.

I'd like to see the sequel do something a little more complex than "Hi there. I'm Sayako, I'm Tara. There's no one else in this room but us... let's fuck!"

One other thing Bloodlust does mostly right is letting the personality of each character bleed into the actual sex scenes by way of having small transitions between sex positions, tidbits of dialogue sprinkled throughout and even a few longer cutscenes before some key moments like the anal finale.

G4E lacked the connective tissue between scenes that Bloodlust has, which makes the characters seem more like props than actual characters, even though Sayako and Tara both have defined personalities of their own. The only times the characters and their quirks are fully taken advantage of in G4E is during the cutscenes.

I just a want simple scenario that takes advantage of both characters and their differences.

Why not have Tara surprise Sayako at her work place, tease her while she tries to keep her cock hidden, suck her off in a semi public place or under her desk?
Then Sayako starts getting into it, her cock starts doing the thinking and she drags Tara into a closet or storage where she gives it to her, taunting her about how it's her turn to be quiet as she rails her ass.

There's so much you can do with them if you just explore the characters properly.
If you just rely on sex scene after sex scene, I fear G4E 2 will just feel like a retread of the original.

>>1485668
Wait, what is this from? Like, which Affect3d product is it in?

>>1487127
This all seems to make sense.

>>1483492
>The fluid simulation wasn't the best but it was decent enough.

i've seen some vids that go into the problems of fluid simulation. it's incredibly difficult, apparently.

how many molecules of liquid can a renderfarm handle? non-newtonian fluids? good lord.

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>>1487497
copy that.
I need this released, yesterday.

>>1487125
>>1487127


Thank you (I suppose the same anon wrote both posts) for such a through analysis of both works! Having such high-effort posts to dissect was the reason I started this thread after all.


So, let's start with the first post.

If I would grade Bloodlust based purely on how turned on I was while watching, I would give it a 6.

Duchess(Sophia)&Prince(Tristan) dynamic left me completely cold, even though I appreciated the inclusion of the cunnilingus scene (something that was missing from the original G4E too).

During the intermissions (especially in the pillow talk scene) we were able to pick up a lot about their characters.

Sophia is a classy, ambitious, intelligent and seemingly uptight court lady, that uses her sexuality mostly as a tool to gain further influence and queendom, should she marry Tristan.
Tristan on the other hand, is a brash, passionate, and oversexed young man that wasn't given real responsibilities in his kingdom, so he never developed the type of street-smarts required in the court - that is why he pairs with Sophia, and listens to her advice.

In the story, Tristan feels compelled to go to the cathedral to face and eliminate the vampires that took his best friend. Sophia on the other hand, urges him to abandon that quest. So we get that Tristan is honorable and loyal to his friend, and that Sophia is ready to sacrifice other human lives to make sure Tristan is safe and with her. Tristan leaves to face his destiny... and that is where I'll stop with the story analysis for now.

The fantastical setting provides some breathtaking and highly-detailed environments (not recreatable in real-life porn) that serve as a sexual playground for the characters to bonk in. Character models, although not realistically proportioned, are more detailed with a fidelity of facial animations not present in any other 3dx work.

So, if I graded Bloodlust just looking at it's technical and narrative achievements, I would give it a strong 9/10.

>>1487682

>Part deux


We didn't even get to talk about the star of Bloodlust and it's titular vampire, Cerene. This is where this work really shines but also fails on couple of fronts.

Remember I said that Sophia+Tristan scene, although romantic (and I'm a sucker for romance) didn't do a lot for me? Well, Cerene came to the rescue. If I would grade the cathedral part on it's own, it would get a 8.


Cerene was perfect in both visual and narrative sense. This old vampire's alluring (and fake) angelic appearance did nothing to soften her cruelty, arrogance and self-assuredness. She teases, taunts, belittles, insults and downright dominates her sexual partners - a perfect match for a pompous prince that is used to getting his own way.


The sex scenes were great, but not without it's faults.
In my opinion, there were no good transitions of Tristan getting erect, and one cum scene was really weird, with him thrusting into the air while cumming with the dick still pointing up (you would expect the dick falling on his stomach or something).

The most egregious fault is that Cerene didn't use her vampire magic or abilities to spice up the things a little. Check 3dgspot's "Doppelgänger" - there was some exotic and exciting sex positions included (ironically, someone from 3dgspot was actually working with Miro for Bloodlust).

The corruption element was another missed opportunity (although not used to a degree Chris Metzen would like). Cerene biting Tristan's neck and pumping aphrodisiacs into his body to make him hard for another round of sex would be much more exciting that what we've got now.


The ending scene with Cerene revealing to Tristan that Sophia was present for the whole time, with some implied cuckqueaning (since Sophia was wet) was awesome. There is also a lingering question - why was Sophia in the cathedral and how did she get there before Tristan did? The implication is that she and the vampire were in contact somehow...


Part 3 coming up...

>>1467873
You should check out animopron's work

>>1487784

>Part trois


So why would I give it such a low grade - 6/10?

Well, the missed opportunity was certainly one of the main reasons. Something was missing - I don't know what caused it and I don't know how to explain it, but it left me with a sort of: "That's it?" feeling.

It was awesome from a technical standpoint, and the faces were more expressive than ever. Dialogue was satisfactory, if a little bland, and VAs did a good job voicing the characters.
Cerene obviously had the best VA, Marie Fasolt (voice of Tara in G4E) and the worst VA was Pip, the voice of Sophie. Ironically, Pip voiced Sayako in G4E DLC, and I absolutely adored her in that role. Alex (that also works as a video editor for Miro) voiced Tristan and he did an okay job, I guess (except in this scene here >>1462777).


The other main reason is purely from a story standpoint. I didn't like Tristan too much (he is like a dude in porn that gets to fuck hot girls, so some jealousy is always involved), but I sympathized with his struggles. The moment I started to actively hate Tristan was when he abandoned his kingdom and his people, the love of his life, and the memory of his friend because he wanted to try anal with Cerene. How much blood from Tristan's brain did go down to his dick to make such a retarded decision? He would have won the wager if he wasn't that brash or confident of his sexual proficiency in the first place.
It should have been a fight between his urges not to cum the third time while Cerene was doing some unimaginable things to make him cum and lose the wager.

I know it's stupid, but I can't like porn if I don't like the characters, and Tristan failed miserably in that regard.


So that is my analysis of Bloodlust. It was a technical work of art, but there was a missed opportunity to add more fantastical elements into the final cut + one of the main characters turned out to be a douche at the end.

My answer to the second post here (>>1487127) is in the making...

>>1487127
>>1487905


As far for your second post, it included some things I've already covered in the previous posts, so I won't say anything more than that I agree with you on all points - Bloodlust gives much more background and context to the "action" scenes than G4E ever did.

However, G4E is still my favorite one out of two IPs that Affect3d had created. The reason, in my case, is the implied context, not the one described in the (very short) backstory.


The two works that have Tara and Sayako are "Tara's Second Assignment" and "Girlfriends4Ever" + DLC 1&2.


The first one (an image set) had no included dialogue so I'll use the Affect3DStore description to explain the setting:

>Tara and Sayako had met just recently, instantly clicked and became girlfriends. But then Tara discovered Sayako's little... or should we say huge 15 inch secret. She couldn't stop herself and on a whim, she let her curiosity take over and gave Sayako a blow job.


Then the G4E came out with the context given in the same description:

>Despite all of this Tara blew off the friendship, in her mind she was conflicted over even contemplating a relationship with a girl... especially a girl with a huge cock, plus the fact she has a boyfriend. But that night stirred something deep inside her, she became restless, she kept thinking about their night together, Sayako's delicious features and most of all her long, hard throbbing cock. She invited herself to a party that she knew Sayako would attend and as soon as she laid eyes on her, she knew she wanted more. She took Sayako by the hand and lead her to a place where they were alone. This is where the first episode of 'Girlfriends 4 Ever' begins!

So their backstory is almost non-existent and the setting is nothing noteworthy. But G4E shines in the interactions the two girls have in the beginning and in ending scenes.


Part two coming up...

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>>1487947


>Part deux


From those interactions, and the profile images of Sayako (shown in the picture) and Tara (in the following post), we can get a good review of their personalities.


Sayako is a beautiful, busty and extremely well-endowed futa - those breathtaking physical attributes would probably cause her to be reserved, shy and generally distrustful of other people and their motivations.

In real life, many extremely beautiful women feel the same since most women are jealous of their beauty and men either ignore them (because they think she is out of their league) or just want fuck them.

I also like shy girls, so that's why I liked Sayako in the first place. Well, also the entire J-cup tits, huge ass and a 15 inch dick package is not too shabby.


Tara is in the similar league of attractiveness, but whereas Sayako is withdrawn, Tara is owning her beauty - she is self-confident and ready to use it to get through life. She has a boyfriend that she is ready to cheat on if an opportunity presents itself. That doesn't make her a very compelling and moral character, but it this case, it works.

Tara is the sultry seductress that is pursuing Sayako, not the other way around (in most stories futas act as "alphas" in the relationship).


That dynamic was unfamiliar to me at the time (I watched "Bible Black" before, and assumed that futas are always meant to be dominant), so that created a strong desire within me to follow through this story and see what will happen to Sayako and Tara's budding romantic relationship. Will they continue their relationship as simple fuckbuddies, or will Tara break up with her boyfriend to officially be with Sayako? And how will that relationship develop and grow?

In other words, I was able to sympathize with both characters to some degree, and as I've said before - I have to like the characters to like the porn (that's why erotic literature is frequently my go-to when I jerk off).

Part 3 coming up (if you are still reading)...

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>>1487989


>Part trois


So what about the future of G4E? In that regard I completely agree with your assessment of what G4E2 should be:


>Why not have Tara surprise Sayako at her work place, tease her while she tries to keep her cock hidden, suck her off in a semi public place or under her desk? ...

There is a wonderful erotic story on the official forums written by a girl named "Chastity Nicollette" where she extrapolated the follow-up to the events in G4E, based on their pre-existing relationship dynamic. BTW, she got the free copy of G4E because of that story - you can check the forums if you are interested or I'll post it here by request.

The story takes place in the same hall where they had sex, with another couple (boy-girl) unexpectedly walking on them post-coitus. You can guess what happened next.

The second part takes place three days after D-day, where Ayako invites Sayako and Tara to a lunch at a restaurant to celebrate the beginning of their relationship. Tara goes under the table to give Sayako a BJ in public, and afterwards Ayako joins Tara to finish the job.

It would be awesome if there was a CHOYA element in the next G4E, where you pick what happens next. Do you make Sayako get off at the top of her lungs in front of everybody, or do you run off with her to the bathroom and fuck Tara silly? So many possibilities, but also so many animations to create and frames to render...


>There's so much you can do with them if you just explore the characters properly. If you just rely on sex scene after sex scene, I fear G4E 2 will just feel like a retread of the original.

There was also a competition to write a backstory for another futa (to use in G4E2) to get a free copy of G4E DLC. I don't know who won and what the story was (it was PM'd to Miro), but I certainly do hope that Miro will include much more conversational intermissions in the next one to create more engaging characters and hotter and steamier sex scenes.


So what do you think?

>>1487881

Agreed, he's a fantastic animator, but only if you're into bestiality shit.

>>1487199

That was produced as a standalone bonus scene after the release of G4E DLCs and later was added to G4E DLC 1 mp4 version.

>>1488016
First of all, I didn't write both posts. I only wrote the second one about the ideal sequel, so I won't comment on your reply to the first post...

My post makes it sound like I enjoyed Bloodlust a lot more than I actually did.
The whole thing was a pretty big disappointment as I've said in previous threads.
However I do stand by my opinion that it provided a more fleshed out setting and used its characters better.

With regards to G4E:

>So their backstory is almost non-existent and the setting is nothing noteworthy.

Pretty much. The reason why I personally didn't care about that at the time was because I was excited that something like G4E even existed at all.

But you touched on an important point:

>The reason, in my case, is the implied context.

This. The fact that the story elements were so vague coupled with the interactive options of the player, actually ended up working surprisingly well for me.
It sort of allowed you to project your own version of events or even create your own scenario by taking advantage of scene rotation, speed selection, angles used, etc etc.
G4E would have been a much lesser product without the player software.

As for the characters, I'm not a forum regular so I know little more about them other then what's in those profile cards.
For all I know there could be this huge detailed encyclopedia about Sayako's emotional turmoil written by some autist in the forums, but none of that is in G4E so...

>celebrate the beginning of their relationship. Tara goes under the table to give Sayako a BJ in public, and afterwards Ayako joins Tara to finish the job.

I would like to read this though. Can you give me a link or post it here?

>It would be awesome if there was a CHOYA element in the next G4E, where you pick what happens next.

A man can dream.

>>1488498

Oh, sorry for mixing you two up!


It was very enjoyable to be able to mix and match scenes in the flash version of G4E, but that is not the implied context that I was talking about.

Implied context, for me is the (still) untapped potential to develop the main cast to act like "real people" in my eyes and stop acting as talking sex dolls (although they do look like sex dolls).


I like to know what makes people tick. So, more opportunities I have to see what character traits and kinks someone has, the more I'm engaged in the following sex scene.

So, for example, we can extrapolate that Sayako is a shy gal because of the way she acts in G4E. That means that, for her, one of most terrifying (and taboo) things to try and do is public sex.
Tara is a sultry seductress that likes to tease and make her sex partners leave their comfort zone.
The logical conclusion of those two personality quirks is that Tara will persuade Sayako to fuck her in public. Then you could further develop their quirks and kinks and switch it up a little - make Sayako an instigator in some depraved sex act and Tara a reluctant accomplice.
You can then include even more people with their own preferences and quirks and make their fetishes bounce off and influence one another.
In that way you develop them as characters while getting all the hot steamy sex you want.

>TL:DR
You create a set of unique characters and looking at their relationship and preferences conclude how would they act in a certain situation (and in certain sex acts).


Anyway, the story you requested can be found here: https://affect3d.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2694

I hope you will like the story as much as I had.


Thanks for your time anon!

>>1462768

>>1462777

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Let's revive the thread and check if anyone else wants to contribute by answering questions posted here (>>1485005).

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>>1489741
nah, let it die for now until some time passes and the updates from miro's dlc thread at his forum accumulates enough content to keep the ppl informed in a new thread... for the lazy ppl, because anyone can easily bookmark that thread and keep updated with his posts now that he's very active

>>1490030


Yea, you're probably right - this threat lasted for a long time.
I just hoped someone else would give their own opinions on certain things that interested me.

In any case, unless somebody wants to answer those questions or wants to request something else, we can leave the thread to die.


So, thanks to everybody that participated and see you when the next DLC comes out!

>>1490063
Why are you so invested into pornography dude, damn

>>1490175


Why do people start threads on any board? Because they are interested in that particular content.
I like 3dx and I like what Affect3d is making - so I made the thread, added the majority of the content and tried to make it interesting to others.

You can jerk off, or talk about it, that's on you - I eventually got what I came here for, so that's why I won't continue bumping the thread. If you are not interested in this thread or don't want to contribute just leave it to die.