/aco/ Commission Thread

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>>1444890
Ringsel is awesome

how do clients feel about range depending on complexity-or do they prefer one set price for something?
like say a price is usually X.
would they prefer it staying at X no matter what or a range like (X-10)though (X+10).
would it even matter to them generally?

what about discount sale events?

>>1444936
I think set prices make people more confident on something and make it easier to decide what they want to go for, whereas "ranges depending on complexity" might make people second-guess on whether their idea is constituted as "complex" or not, and might make them reconsider the idea of commissioning.

That said, it's up to you in the end what you'd want to do.

As for sale events, I'm pretty sure everybody loves those when they're around. Except maybe beleaguered artists who get more business than expected from a good sale.

>>1444994
The more skilled the artist becomes the more he has to specify the complexity in order to save time and effort.

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>>1444890
Well, here goes nothing.

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https://ifiyrinnsfw.tumblr.com/CommissionInfo

Please Enjoy c:

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https://thesomethingmancer.tumblr.com/commissions

Thinking about a sketch sale for pride month. $10 on gay/lesbian sketches.

So is there any artist on here that would consider taking commissions for Steam games? Because FUCK I just realized I have a boatload that I never cashed in from old Humble Bundles.

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https://spicedmangos.tumblr.com/commission

If you want more examples, please message me on this tumblr! Thanks!

>>1445908
It would depend on the artist and on the games. I would suggest making a list of what you have available, and if an artist sees a title they like they can offer something for it.

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back to the bussiness
https://dogmalord.tumblr.com/tagged/fanart

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Anyone want to commission me?
More samples/prices/contact info
can be seen at http://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/tuksoil/profile

Hi

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>>1444889
I wont post my art here because I would be banned. I have experience in furry, loli, comics, animation, and character design.

If you would like me to work for you, please contact me at my email. Thank you.

[email protected]

>>1446827
I email samples to all clients. So proof of work is always provided.

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Cranking out some comic commissions

>>1445908
The artist I did that with a while back is the only one so far to have scammed me, so unless you just feel like giving games away for nothing, seems like there'd be a greater risk.

Speaking of Humble Bundles, that Sonic one is looking pretty tempting right now...Can't wait for Sonic Mania.

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Just a few commissions I got

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2

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And here's the last one

>>1446972
>>1446973
>>1446975

And here's the guy who did these:
http://ninoeros.tumblr.com/

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>>1444890
Shilling again.

>>1446979
>Looks at the content page
>Clicks the link for booty expecting it to show posts tagged with booty
>Get the booty warrior instead

I like this guy's style.

>>1446979
man, does good stuff.

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>>1444890
I'm doing a character sale, 25% off for any commission involving the following:
-Shantae from the titular series

-Cerebella, Feng, Eliza or Ms Fortune from Skullgirls

-Mercedes Marten or Madeleine from Dragons Dogma

Only one slot left. Shoot me an email, DM me on tumblr at https://boxmanspornbox.tumblr.com/ or send me something on discord at Boxman#1984

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>>1446690
Would you consider doing some BBW or vore work with this character?

what would be a way to say a canon character with non-canon elements? like giving a dfc cow tits, or changing someone's hair color?
would it be wrong to decline any requests like that?

>>1447105
the phrase I'm looking for here is that you "reserve the right to refuse a commission on the grounds of artistic integrity"
and yeah that is kind of dumb, but if that's how you feel, be honest about it. pretending you're okay with it won't make your art better

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>>1444890
Here I am~ boyfriend is still out of work so I appreciate anything you guys can throw my way.

I don't do: loli/shota scat/guro or noncon.

Discounts given for: monsters, light femdom (hopefully together) and chubby characters.

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>>1447118
Most recent commission! My sheet needs updating; this is a better example of what you'll be getting if you ask for lineart .

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>>1444890
Alright, alright, I added price examples
but I put goddamn question marks after them because I don't fucking know. It's not as if anyone's ever going to commission robots or monsters or pixel art from me. I'd just.. like them to.

>>1447118
How much would that discount be? On the monsters part. Looking to get something of my character getting fucked by a werewolf, but not much money here.

>>1447177
If one of the characters is a monster I'll knock the price of the extra character off.
So the prices up on the sheet are what you'd be paying, no extra character fee!

>>1446827
Whats your limit on /d/-tier stuff?

>>1447203
Ah, she's not a monster, just a girl with otter ears. She'd just be getting fucked by the monster.

>>1447253
We can discuss that over email.

>>1447085
BBW sure but I would only do vore if its eaten by some kind of monster or animal.

>>1446859
So what are your details?

>>1447136
>It's not as if anyone's ever going to commission robots or monsters or pixel art from me. I'd just.. like them to.

Well, this is /aco/

Wouldn't you have more success on SFW commissions on tumblr or deviantart?

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Something I thought up last night while letting my mind wander, a question towards some of the artists here.

Say a person wanted to make a fairly sizable picture with a good number of characters around a certain backdrop. For the sake of the example, let's say a typical hot springs picture with a number of waifus from different media all together, like pic related but without convenient censoring.

Would it be possible to do the idea in stages, over a course of payments for each girl added to the picture? Like, I suppose, sketching out the background and a singular girl, paying for the cost of that, then later paying the price of adding another girl to the sketch, then another later on, and so on until all the girls are in position, and then paying the cost of turning the sketch to lineart, then to color?

Or would that be something that could only be done as "save up the 300+ dollars it would cost, then buy it as a lump sum" kind of thing?

>>1447369
Yeah that's I mean, I wouldn't charge extra for the werewolf. It would still count as an extra character normally!

>>1447708
I wouldn't mind doing something like that, because obviously, if you end up dropping it it's not really any skin off of my nose. Doing it one character at a time is a pretty nice way of doing it.
It means that I don't get fatigued with like, drawing 20 characters in one go.

>>1447798
I see! So like, lineart would remain at £28, for example. What's the difference between Pinup and Scene? From your price list they seem pretty much the same thing.

The whole "Pay what you want" thing kind of irks me. I feel like if I get the commission and pay to little then I feel like a Jackass. If I get the commission and pay a little to much then it feels like extra money leaving the bank.

I'd.rather just have a set amount for those things so that neither party feels like they've gotten the shorter stick. Artists, how do you feel about this?

>>1447575
monsters can fuck! they can fuck robots if you want. That sounds painful though.
nah DA is just little kids who want to pay with "points" and I aint about to into tumblr

>>1447708
situations like that, my main concern is "do you have some poses I can copy" because I can draw dozens of naked girls no problem, but I can't think of dozens of unique poses so they don't look like they're just sitting there.
>>1448074
There's something to the idea of "i like drawing this anyway, would you just toss me a few bucks?" and as far as worrying you've paid too much or too little, these things have a way of evening themselves out. but I never do pay what you want, I do "I respect haggling". you'll never get me to tell you to fuck off because you asked for a few bucks less. at worst I might say if I take it down below X it won't be worth my time anymore, but more likely I'll say "howbout if we leave out the background" or something.

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>>1444889
This is my price list. Samples : in this thread:
>>1432641

>>1446628

Will/will not do?

>>1448134
If I was to do that kind of thing, I'd try to map out characters and positions in my head at the very least, and make sure to describe actions. I'd want my group shot to be something more than just all of them sitting/laying around, even if it would probably be something otherwise simple.

One pouring a drink for another, some bonding, some fighting, some ogling or jealously squeezing breasts....the whole cliche hot springs deal realized with personal waifus.

>>1448152
I see a lot of posts like this
Isn't it better to just quietly say "Hey will you do scat?" or whatever. And if you get a no, oh well. You're anonymous, it doesn't matter.

>>1448230
What is this, reddit? It helps them and helps the buyer.

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>>1444890

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>>1447521
email: anabeaverhause@gmail

>>1447880
Pin up is just one character or two characters not interacting or like... interacting super simply, scene is two characters or more fuckin. The extra £10 is to compensate for the difficulty in anatomy and angles or whatever!

If that makes sense...

>>1448644
that's a good way of putting it. I need to put something like that in my sheet

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>>1444890
Shillin'

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>>1448727
Most recent finished piece

>>1448644
Awesome! I'll save that for when I have more cash, then. £50 is literally all I have right now lol.

>>1448727
Finally, An artist that I can afford!

>>1447708
>>1446827
I could do it in 2 months for $400. Email me for samples of my work.

>>1449033
>think that sounds high
>do the math
>that would actually be 50% less than I ought to charge for something like that, assuming each two of them constitutes a normal 30-ish dollar picture

I mean, in this specific case, they're just busts.. and they aren't drawn below the water even though I'd at least give them a body-shaped squiggle..
on the other hand, the skill and coloring and all the effects are all well above my level... yeah 400 is a bargain. Man... to think I did it for free

>>1449114
Still a pretty massive lump sum to have for a porn pic, if not able to be done in any sort of payment plan kind of thing.

Makes me think getting a credit card for PayPal would make things like that a lot easier.

Can anybody recommend me an artist who is really good at inking? I'm hiring.

>>1449122
honestly, times like that, i feel like it's better to make a purchase of goods, and then show them the receipt with their address on it. like buy me a Switch and we call it even. that's how I got my WiiU.. just in time for.. games to stop coming out for it almost entirely..

>>1449236
>Has 3 games for his Wii U and said console's gathering dust

Man, I'm a big Nintendo guy, and I feel just bad about how the good games are really fun, but it just wasn't enough that generation. Least the 3DS was a breakthrough hit.

>>1449240
they dropped so many balls.
yeah if i cared about handhelds i'd be living pretty, gamewise.
anyway i did eventually get muh wiiu zelda so all is well. it's just... really crushing that A) we finally got a proper starfox followup, and a new paper mario, and they were both ehhh, and B) despite a console with a perfect pointer and a console with a ... screen-thingy, we never got a new pokemon snap. the president of pokemon said 'japanese people arent interested in photography' as if he was trying to dissuage the old japanese tourists with cameras cliche... which hasnt been relevant since smafones.

now back to commissions.

What are the sorts of things artists tend to "give away" as patreon rewards?

And what would people actually want? If an artist gives away their art for free, what sort of extra thing could he do for patrons thats worth the money?

>>1449402
Most I've seen have some Patreon-exclusive pictures, or if they're not going to be exclusive, are ones that are not going to be uploaded to the artist's other pages for a while.

Raffles used to be a thing, and polls to determine the subject of the next piece of monthly/weekly/whatever art are also things, people like to put in their influence and hope the next picture might basically be theirs.

Depending on the rates, at higher tiers artists will also offer a pic to each patron of that tier after they pay, so they're always guaranteed a monthly pin-up or similar of their own choosing, for their continued patronage.

>>1449402
behind the scenes stuff, preliminary sketches, that kind of shit..

>>1449402
I've seen
>critque sessions
>livestream access
>art process/speedpaint
>monthly wallpaper
>access to polls
>early access
>original files
>guaranteed personal works

>>1449411
raffles and gambling-esque things aren't allowed

>>1449402
-tutorials
-raffles
-cameos (for comics and video games and large multi-character images)
-discounts
-Photoshop and sai files
>>1449416

>>1449432
>raffles and gambling-esque things aren't allowed

not on the site, but you have to do some clever shit, here's an example
https://www.patreon.com/LiveForTheFunk

Click on the "Access to the Monthly Private Streams: See my Picarto page for more information!"

You can do raffles but don't blatantly advertise them on Patreon

>>1449507
could someone report you for that since it's still connected?

>>1449527
in the way that they could report you for having nsfw stuff connected to your patreon, or for that matter your paypal, sure. but nobody does. which is surprising really.

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>>1444890
shilling

>>1449137
ive done alot of inking
>>1449739

>>1449562
I'd be worried as long as someone could. people have vendettas for no reason sometimes.
pretty sure Shad was taken down several times just because

I'm looking for artists good at drawing older women or goblins
hit me up

>>1450753

>>1450676
Can I try? Something I did for a commission that had an old lady..

So I don't know where else to vent about this but I'm done commissioning artists.

For the past fucking year I've been trying to get one fucking simple thing done. It's not complex, it's not a weird fetish. It's literally the most vanilla thing out there.

FOUR FUCKING ARTISTS have now ghosted me. They say they'll do it, they get me so hyped and excited, and then they just fucking ghost me. I never hear anything back, and they keep updating like nothing ever happened.

WHY??? What is it about me and my request that is so fucking impossible to do? All I'm asking is for a two characters interacting, holding hands or drinking or just being cute with each other. NOTHING that should warrant being ghosted like this. I'm friendly, I pay up front, I do whatever the artist asks. FOUR FUCKING TIMES.

It's the most insulting, upsetting thing and I'm fucking done. I'm done commissioning small artists. Big artists with names and reputations? Maybe, when I can afford it. But I'm done trying to stick up for the little guy and give lesser known artists business. I looked up to a lot of these people, man. One of them I've been in contact with for MONTHS. They KNOW how fucking excited I was to throw money at them. They said they'd do it, and now it's been days and not only are they taking new commissions again, I've never even gotten a response about if they've decided to just scrap mine.

I feel cheated. I feel like crying. If you don't think you'll do my commission, don't promise me that you will. Don't lead me alone like a stupid cow on a lead and then abandon me.

Fuck this. I'm done. I'm done supporting people. I'm done sitting around like a sad-sack waiting for people to do things for me that they never will. Forget it.

>>1450881
Im really sorry that this happened to you but you should post their names those who do this deserve to be known so that nobody will get scammed.

>>1450928
I'm not really comfortable with that. They're not scamming me so much as just leading me along and then catfishing me. No money has changed hands, so it's not technically illegal. It's just them going 'hell yeah i'll do this for sure, give me a day or two' and then just never doing it. It's a broken verbal promise, but it's a really shitty thing to do. It's fucking heartbreaking. I was looking forward to this new one for DAYS. I was so so so happy that I was finally getting this one done, and by this artist. Now they're just ignoring my messages and doing other things. It's probably stupid to be so upset about it but man... I really wanted to finally get this thing done.

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Consider this as a bump.
Had 1 more slot for commission.
More samples/prices/contact info
can be seen at http://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/tuksoil/profile

>>1450881
is it possible your email has been flagged by some spam system, so nobody's getting your emails?
You know, we don't OFTEN get people doing the commission right here in the thread, but it does happen from time to time. Maybe that should happen now.

>>1450964
Nope, my emails are getting through, I've made sure.

>>1450945
>them going 'hell yeah i'll do this for sure, give me a day or two' and then just never doing it.
Oh, maybe it's your email's spam filter then? four in a row sounds really odd. I can tell you that I'd never do that to anyone, but I would also appreciate a followup email if i forgot. I commissioned a plush from someone once and waited patiently and it turned out they forgot and if I had just reminded them, I would have gotten it sooner


.. of course that plush was lousy, but still.

>>1446690
I don't have a character sheet for who I want commissioned, but can I describe them to you? Or send you something poorly drawn?

>>1450967
>>1450966
I've also sent multiple messages across multiple platforms. There's no way they aren't getting them.

>>1450881
Wow, that's sad. Care to share what kind of picture are you trying to get drawn for you?

I need some context to understand why 4 artists would've ghosted on you..

That or you're just terribly unlucky.

>>1450972
yeah maybe there's something you're not realizing about this request that we could help you with. Not gonna judge or anything.

>>1450972
>>1450974
This is literally what I've asked for every time:

My OC and an established character drinking and having a good time with a cute smooch thrown in there for good measure.

That's it. That is literally it.

I request the same on the OC drawthreads occasionally and have also gotten ghosted there, although I never expect anyone to do anything so it's not so bad then. It's just a bonus if it happens!

>>1450881
>holding hands

There's your problem. No-one should be forced to depict such depravity.

>>1450980
fuck you're right, what was i thinking

>>1450964
I wonder how that happens? That's occasionally happened once or twice with me and a couple of my commissioners, one I've even had to send a basic message fairly soon after sending a message of reference/detail links just to make sure it passes through, since a couple times my details email goes into their spam folder.

I think once or twice an artist has send me something that hit my spam, but that's even rarer and hasn't happened in months now.

>>1450977
I guess you've hit the jackshitpot 4 times in a row then...

I'd understand your disappointment, but since you said no money has changed hands, would you not try again?

I do know there are a lot of artists that would deliver..

>>1450955
I really wanna commission you, and I have a story in mind. Do I have to write it and you draw it, or do we collaberate together?

>>1450999
I really don't want to, to be honest. I'm so done with the rollercoaster of emotion that comes along with thinking someone gives a shit when they don't. I did get one from a friend, and it's fucking amazing, I'll be getting another. But as far as strangers go, I think I'm done. It's not fucking worth this.

>>1450985
You said you paid up front. I trust you got a refund each time, because if not, we really need to know who these artists are that stole your money and could potentially steal ours.

>>1451010
Oh, my apologies, I didn't phrase it quite right. I meant that I OFFER to pay up front. Believe me, if I was getting money stolen I would not be venting about it here. This is just something I keep running into that's deeply upsetting and not okay, in my book.

>>1450968
is a character in your head? I can draw it from a drawn description and references sure.

>>1451036
Yeah, most of her is in my head. I sent you an email and made a little reference, I'll send it over to you.

>>1451039
please do, add all the info you think it is necessary to make it done.

>>1451045
Done! Thanks in advance!

>>1451007
Okay, but here's something you've never tried before: get someone in here to publically say they'll do it
now if they don't, you have witnesses.
I can understand if you're reluctant since it would kind of look like you just came up with this story in order to get people to draw your request, but because it was one of us that came up with the idea, then.. y'know, you can justify it.

>>1451004
You can write the script then i will draw certain angles and stuff.
Also, you don't have to add certain panels on the script as it will ruin the momentum of each page, you can leave that to me.

If you wanna commission me,, send me an email and we'll talk about it there.
[email protected]

>>1451023
gimme the exact quotes you used on them, with pic of ref if you sent any.
where did you find these artists?
around what level of skill did they have vs how much the costs?
did you check any of those beware blogs for your name? someone might've written you down as a vendetta for some reason

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>>1451411
I hadn't really even considered that people would think I was trying to get sympathy art. I'm not. I just don't know any other communities that would sympathize.

>>1451446
this is the exact thing i sent
they're friends of friends, and i know them through other boards
it was cheap
nope

>>1451568
>this is the exact thing i sent
shit senpai, that sounds cute af. I'd be stoked if it were me wtf.
Is this just a one page comic? what kind of quality are you looking for? did you give them a reasonable time frame?

>they're friends of friends, and i know them through other boards
fuck 'em

>it was cheap
the cheaper the less responsible usually

>nope
I'd double check if I were you.

>>1451625
I left the length up to him. I asked for a sketch comic, nothing major, and told him to take his time. He assured me he'd be done the next day. It's going on five days and he's moved on to other projects. I'm not mad about having to wait, I'm just upset that I now have no idea if I'm even going to get it or not.

>>1451637
shit senpai I'd fucking take you up if I were taking commissions rn.
maybe try one more time to reach them and wait till it's been a week. a week without news sounds reasonable to move on since they're proven to be working.
and it'd be fair to deny paying them for sure after two weeks

from now on just keep business and relations separate in your case

>>1450881
>>1446827

You should try hiring me. I always finish my commissions in a timely manner.

>>1450676
Looks good - nice sheet, proper examples and pricing information. Prices are perhaps a bit low for the quality. Got a gallery somewhere?

>>1447708
I'd do this for $50 for up to 10 characters
>>1448727

>>1452029
Ok first of all thanks for the comment! Any input really means a lot now.

What'd you think'd be a fair price then?

From what I see.. would it be reasonable to charge around $20 - 25 for a color sketch? $40+ for cellshade? A friend suggested $75 - 80+ for full painted - would that be an ok price?

I probably will keep these prices for a while (as a promotion of sorts) since I just properly opened my commission.. If anything I'm wondering that being new, putting a higher price would be detrimental since I don't have a steady following, big client list or track record yet?

Anyway, you can view my stuff here: https://ylvishcanisminora.tumblr.com/tagged/ylvish

Tumblr is where I upload everything uncensored.. I have a DA too: http://ylvish.deviantart.com but stuffs are censored so I kinda prefer leading you to my tumblr.

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>>1446725
Updated my price listing.
Email me if for more details.
Thanks.

>>1452315
But your art sucks.

>>1452628
well when you get 10 pounds of steak for 50 bucks you don't exactly expect filet mignon do you

>>1452525
No probs.

I'm not entirely sure what would be a reasonable price - it depends on how long it takes you to make a picture. It's also true that keeping the prices low might help build a rep and an audience. In the end though, unhelpful as it sounds, you have to decide what's worth it for you.

Thanks for the link!

>>1452628
How rude anon. Just because you don't like his art doesn't mean that it's not good.

>Be writing a manga story
>Trying to make it as short and simple as possible
>Realise it's still going to cost me an absolute fortune to get commissioned
>Debating whether or not it's really worth it

Feels bad man.

>>1452628
It does but. Eh. Still cheap.

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>>1449739
I love your coloured pencil lineart. Are you able to shade latex like this?

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>>1453874
I dont do latex or stuff like it very often but i have. However what i have done it it has always been simplistic since i never considered it to be a main part of the illustration but if someone wanted it to be center stage, i thing i could do that

>>1444889
is /aco/ the only board with threads like these?

>>1454013
Apparently so. Other boards like /d/ and co/ have their own drawthreads, but no commission threads, which is odd.

>>1454104
it is rather a shame, as I'd love to get commissioned for like, zelda art and whatnot

>>1454168
You can still commission that idea here. I just wonder what other artists there are lurking on other boards that don't visit this one.

Global Rules #11: Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.

>>1454278
>Advertising not welcome
>But the banner ads tho

>>1450809
kek

fuckin degenerate furries

>>1454286
You have to pay for those. That's how a business works.

>>1454311
And you think a single commission thread is going to destroy 4chan?

>>1454327
>it shouldnt be illegal if i steal this
>its not like everyone is stealing everything
>whos it going to hurt

>>1454376
What are we stealing?

>>1454390
bumps from the limit. stop replying to trolls.

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>>1445224
Just finished this thing recently for future reference

>>1454104
>>1454168
/aco/ is for western art, and the rules state if the artist is known as a Western. that goes in /aco/ and very few artists here are Japanese, so it made sense to keep it on /aco/.

>>1454753
i'm sure if we started doing a bunch of anime fanart we'd get in troubs

>>1454753
>>1454278
When did 4chan become such rulefags?

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>>1444890
Let me try this little experimental shit

Link to my artwork: https://e-hentai.org/g/1070911/135f74aebc/

>>1454780
late 2010
it was a pretty sweet ride before that. you could post pretty much anything, people sometimes spoilered nsfw just to be polite. herds of colorful wild ponies ran free across the plains.

>>1454898
I retrospect, /d/ has stuff like futa, tentacles, and /d/-tier fetishes which was a great deal of the reason why the board was made.

I'd have assumed that it would have its own commission thread too, but most artists there make money off patreon and don't do commissions because of it.

As much as Patreon is helping artists, going that route kinda kills off commission likelkness, so there is that too.

>>1455434
see i've been trying to use patreon for commissions.. but i cant get figure out how

To the buyers of this thread: how often do you commission?

To the sellers: how often are you receiving commissions?

>>1455697
First time for me

>>1455697
I usually commission as soon as a new inspiration comes to my boner. I splurged on Stardew Valley girls when I first played it four months ago, and now I'm commissioning lots of Mantis and Nebula lewds.

>>1455697
it's irregular as hell. I tend to get them in close succession, oddly enough

>>1455697
I'm straight up fucking addicted to commissioning, ever since getting my first one off of some of the people that come around here. Since then, I think there's barely been a week when I haven't been waiting on a commission, discussing details of one with an artist, or looking around for available or new ones to fill my personal folder.

Only reason at this point I'm not broke is that I'm trying to force myself to slow down, and I get help staying afloat by working a little on written smut commissions myself. Write porn, then buy porn.

>>1455815
awesome. i bet you and an artist could work together to create illustrated porn that you write

I want to ask a question to all people who commissions stuff.

How do you guys feel knowing that people in the /aco/ drawthread get free art and don't have to pay for nothing, while you have to pay?

Call me autistic but this is stopping me from commissioning artist, like why do you draw a 60$ pic for free but if i want something similar i have to pay you, imo its ridiculous.

>>1455867
Generally i pay because i like the specific artists style or for our specific wants.
Draw-threads don't have to make the art you want or in the style you want also you can specifically alter from the sketch they deliver so you have more input into the art you pay for.

>>1455829
It's something I've considered, but I've never really written something yet I feel like I'd want illustrated. Used to have pipe dreams of running quests or rps or whatever that would get artwork for certain pivotal moments, like the CGs in a VN. Barring that, I dream of one day commissioning a short comic, even if done page by page over the course of a year or something.

>>1455867
Requests are completely up to the whim of the person drawing them and are under no obligation. Commissions allow you to single out a particular artist you like and give all the specifications, plus the quality of whatever you pay as opposed to something that could just be a quickie.

A request is a gamble with no so great odds. A commission is a guarantee.

>>1455867
requests are special. For one thing, you only take one if you want to. That means they're for bored artists looking for a prompt, and they are paid in recognition and copious thanks. plus free publicity. I have made probably close to 800 dollars over the years PURELY because of some years spent avidly building up a portfolio in drawthreads, of material that people might want more of. a nice variety, a range, a showoff of improvement...

>>1455867
because one is a hired job and the other volenteer work (and basically a raffle)
I don't see how this isn't like any other job. just don't commission then

>>1455697
On average I commission people about two times every three months. It's been awhile since I gave a pitch to this thread but I do check regularly for new artists.
>>1455867
It may be free but it's definitely a gamble whether an artist will take it and if they do they might monkey paw it.

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>>1455867
The difference is; with a commission, you get what you want from the artist you want.
With a request, you get what a random artist wants, and you might not even get that.

Pic not related, we've just not had any porn in a while.

>>1455867
>people in the /aco/ drawthread get free art while you have to pay?

my fetishes are too bizarre and no one has ever drawn them for me for free. also, i get to choose the artist and get the quality that i want, rather than relying on luck in drawthreads.

>>1455867
I won't really take anything from the draw thread too seriously, like I would a commission that someone is paying for. It's usually just when I'm bored, or just want to practice something.

>>1455867
It's also a way to support an artist you like.

Stop thinking like a parasite and you may have one day the money to pay good money for guaranteed good work.

>>1455697
>>1446827
I get commissioned approximately 16 times a month

>>1455697
I commission an artist whenever I can. I've only commission one so far but done it multiple times. I mostly just like their style and giving them money. I mostly do it for fun, but I try to change up the commission each time with a different character doing a different thing. I like to give them a challenge.

Can't bring myself to commission porn though. Lewds maybe, but outright porn is out of the question.

>>1455867
The artist I commission is pricing them at an amount that's practically free for me. They've also been really cool with my commissions so I'll keep giving them money.

I get joy out of blessing people. Making others happy makes me happy.

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>>1444890
Need your shekels!

>>1454816
Put a time stamp in your post brah, so people will know if you're offer is still available or not.

>>1455867
>Call me autistic
Fine: You're autistic.

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Hi :)
My price are :
-Line : 30
-Color : 50
There is my Tumblr : http://darkazed.tumblr.com

Send me a message from there :)

Love!

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>>1456326
4chin already has an internal timer and I don't have to be adequating it to the post every time I do the offer.

Anyhow, nobody hit me up with an E-mail anyway. I just wanted to draw something quick and get paid. It's a balance between quality speed and price to keep it simple and effective.

Anyhow, here's a pic with lineart and simple shading for future reference

>>1456359
30 and 50 WHAT, exactly? Yen, pounds, pesos, lira, rupees, krugerrand? I mean the blog looks french so I'd GUESS you're talking euros, but it helps if you're clear about these things.

(I'd also recommend posting an email address so people don't have to make a tumblr just to contact you.)

>>1455697
In the past 4 months, I've commissioned about 3 times. I've commitssioned 4 times total.

Kinda want to commission again, but I just recently had a commission finished. I feel like I'm getting addicted.

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>>1444890
Borfin

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>>1457625
Most recent pic I finished that wasn't furry related.

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>>1444890
>>1454816
I'm opening the quick sale commission again. The offer lasts only one hour after I post this reply

>>1455697
I got 5+ commissions a month. Some months are busier then others.

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>>1444890

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[email protected]

sanfiw.tumblr.com

Hey there!
Since I started with this I was able to meet some OCs, over time I realized that some of them when combined would result in something interesting and unusual... so I had this idea, nothing serious is just something I had in mind and wanted to put it into practice... in addition if you like a character but HAVE NO IDEA what to order... take a picture send me some tags and try it too!

I still keep doing my regular content: $ 15 usd per sketch

>>1444890

>>1454104
>>1454753
then would it make sense for a /u/ or /y/ artist to drop by here? what about pin-up artists?

where would a sfw one drop their shit?

>>1458076
we get all kinds really

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>>1444890
Hey folks. I don't have set prices because a lot of stuff is relative, but I'll charge $30-$50 depending on what you want. Here's my blog for more.

>http://wendigowendigo.tumblr.com/

The quickest way to reach me the email you can find on my tumblr header. I'm moving apartments soon so some cash would be mighty nice.

>>1458076
>where would a sfw one drop their shit
For OC, usually /tg/ drawthreads I guess although there are never commission threads. I guess you could just drop your commission info there anyway

>>1452624
bump.

>>1456359
Your art isnt worth $30.

dick bump

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>>1460452
did someone say dicks?

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>>1444890
Dirt cheap. I could do with the money.

saoir-art.tumblr.com for more.

>>1444890

Probably a bad idea, but decided to try it out since I'm precariously short on money. Hopefully it'll be a good learning experience if I decide to do something similar in the future.

Imgur since I think some of this stuff isn't /aco/ allowed, but it's stuff I've somewhat recently drawn.
http://imgur.com/a/ce1FD

>>1461104
why did I click it

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Drawing stuff for low prices. Hmu If you'd like.

>>1461104
why is it a bad idea?

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Discord: Lucy#4600

Why Discord? Easier to use, easier to contact and better commission management in general.

Will do SFW and NSFW

Won’t do: Shota/loli and Furries

Anything else just ask.

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I can do some commissions, I guess. I don't have a blog or anything. I mainly just draw this stuff for myself whenever I feel like it. I don't have any pricing in mind, so if anyone is curious, I'd have to price based on what you want. Here's a quick sketch I did today for reference. I'll probable post more finished work tomorrow.

>>1461282

I've never done commissions before, and don't feel like I'm at a skill level where it's really worth paying for, but I could use the cash so I guess I'll let other people be the judge of what's worth their money.

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>>1444890
shilling

>Mid 2000's
>Have $0 extra money to spend
>Can't commission my favorite porn artists

>Current year
>Finally have a surplus of money to spend
>Can't commission my favorite porn artists because they retired/disappeared

I hope somebody else can relate

>>1462416
I can relate but let me throw in an additional feel.

>Finally have enough money to commission your favourite porn artist.
>They have become so popular that your request either gets buried or ignored.

>>1462447
That sounds like a bad feel famm. Like seeing your favorite band go mainstream.

>>1462447
Alternatively, finally get enough money to afford a commission from an artist you liked a while back, but now they're exclusively Patreon and never open commissions ever again.

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>>1457632
>>1457625
This might be over shilling but I recently finished another sketch commission with the same older lady from before.

>>1462749
>those nails
ouch

So, I've always been a good artist, and a pervert, but I'm terrible at pursuing art as a profession. I'm at a time in my life where I want to follow my dreams instead of settling for the mediocrity and comfort of a steady job. I think doing porn commissions is a good way to start, but I want to ask a few questions from you more experienced artists out there.

First, I need to know if a regular paypal account can receive payments. Or do I need a merchant's account to get that option, and the regular account is just for consumers? The website isn't very specific on this matter and further googling doesn't give me a satisfactory answer.

>>1462871
I guess my next question would be about blogs. I'm 28 years old and I've never had a blog before. What website are most pornographic artists using to post their images and such? I assume these services are free, and act as a convenient portfolio of the artist's work. Tumblr is something I only read or hear people talking about-- I don't really know how it's supposed to work, or other similar websites, for that matter.

>>1462871
I take writing commissions on occasion, and receive payments without needing to upgrade yet to a merchant's account, so presumably you're good there.

>>1462914
Okay, thanks!

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>>1444890
If I can get 10 commissions I'll stream

>>1462447
dude, if I was that guy, and you sent me a mail saying that.. i'd give you one at my old rate, just for being a loyal fan.

just one, mind you.

at the expense of looking stupid, what do you all mean by cubs?

>>1463519
loli/shota furries

>>1463536
ah, ok. figured as much
thanks senpai

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>>1444890
yeeeee sup dudes, if someone is interested in my work just send me a message in discord or tumblr

https://prayforcummies.tumblr.com/

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>>1463819

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>>1458577
Bump! Something like this would be 50~75 bucks.

>>1464340
really nice, familiar too, but a tad overpriced i have to say.
shit is that Eve from Superbook?

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Need some money for summer, so please consider!!

>>1464360
If you can open the image in a new tab it shows every drawing in full detail

>>1464345
Thanks pal. Nah it's a couple of OCs. My prices are negotiable!

>>1464345
that's really not overpriced. Something of that quality takes 5-10 hours.

>>1464417
something like that would take 1 if you're fast, 2 if you're around medium, assuming you're a skilled artist

not saying anything about anything though, just informing that part

>>1464438
No, it wouldn't. Not with art of that quality. It looks simple but a lot of shit goes into it to ensure it still looks good. if it took them 5 hours, that's 10 dollars an hour if they charge 50 bucks and that isn't good pay for a dayjob, let alone a skilled trade.

>>1464417
It doesn't look like a particularly special quality to me. It's not even shaded. It's nice art and all, but not at the top tier in terms of anatomy, attractiveness, etc.. maybe second to top tier.
in terms of how long it looks to make, it looks like about a half-hour drawing at most.
i'm not knockin' this person, that's way better than I draw.. but it's not 30 dollars better than I draw, y'dig? it's about 8-10 dollars better than I draw. and that would take me 20 dollars and a bit over an hour because I'm not that good yet at effortlessly sketching. but people at this skill level pretty much are

>>1464441
no 5 hours would be an unconfident newbie still figuring out gesture. I would know

>isn't good pay for a dayjob, let alone a skilled trade
like I said before, I'm ONLY commenting on your time estimate

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>>1444890
30 USD for one character
15 for every next
5-15 for background/additional stuff
no body waste/underage/anthro, otherwise I'm pretty open, just ask

mail: [email protected] or catch me on tumblr

>>1464451
>a half-hour drawing at most

People don't just spit out things that look like that, they look like that because it takes time and a trained eye. you guys are fucking retards, that guy up there is selling his shit for two fifty and he's getting fucking robbed lmao but I guess that's what you happens when you start drawing just to desperately collect pocket change from art people jerk off to. I hope that guy doesn't lower his prices.

>>1464604
yes, it takes time and a trained eye to learn how to be able to spit that out in a half hour.
look, I was nagging some people earlier to raise their prices. it's only fair that I do the same when I see one a bit overly high. To do otherwise would sully the previous advice and make it a conflict of interest (as if i was only having them raise their price so I didn't get undercut). Suggesting this one lower the price does me no personal good at all, I only want to see more art from this artist, and that means more affordable commissions.
now if the dance card is full, so to speak, then clearly i'm wrong and this is the perfect price to meet the demand. But something tells me... it's not.

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>It's an /aco/ artist that emulates Tumblr's androgynous """artstyle""" and unironically idolizes SU episode

Get out you fucking normies, all six of you

would anybody consider doing drawing aco tutorials?

>>1464553
>lip nipples
I...hmm

>>1464604
>two fifty
I think you got the wrong drawfag in mind. also that ones actually charging tree fiddy

>>1464643
desu senpai I think artists ought to be paid more. they are providing a unique creation only they can give and it took them 10+ years to hone the skill (actually, learning never ends). yet strippers and babysitters can easily earn more
then again, I am pretty biased.

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Is drawing pornography something that people can make a living from?

>>1464844
If you're famous and/or prolific enough, certainly.

>>1464340
>Something like this would be 50~75 bucks.
are you trolling or just highballing as high as possible?

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>>1464844
>>1464898
I mean it's freelance-style work, so it's not "safe" income, it will fluctuate in ways income from a "steady" job doesn't, but it's entirely possible to make a pretty comfortable living off drawing dicks and butts.

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>>1447118
Beep boop update time. Got some feet for you nerds.

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contact/paypal: [email protected]

Got a key for splinter cell blacklist, anyone want to draw something for that?

>>1464360
for the ones on the left. Is the finished product just the picture of the photo or do you actually scan them onto the computer and send them to the recipient.

>>1463819
sent you a request on discord

>>1464844
Yes >>1464905 you need to build a huge fanbase for it

>>1464905
I overwhelmingly admire Incase's level and following.

>>1464815
in the end, demand determines price, not quality. We should be glad, too, because there's a lot of things that take a ton of work to make, but if they actually got paid fairly, we'd never be able to afford them. like.. animation. or videogames.

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>>1465321
>it's good people get undervalued and underpaid
>that way, I get what I want

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It's not just super established people like InCase, either.

And of course any other sales/commissions would be on top of these numbers, and at this level of fame, you can pretty much charge whatever you want for comms.

So yeah! You can definitely make decent money off porn, if you're lucky and/or skilled enough.

>>1465369
can you by any chance make/list some sfw artists? or ones that do mixed?
I'd like too see the market for those

>>1465380
idk, I just hit up a few profiles on hentaifoundry for these. You can probably poke around deviantart or tumblr for sfw stuff if you want.

>>1465334
I didn't say it was good. I said it's that or nothing, sometimes.
history is paved with people doing what they do for the maximum money that can be afforded to them, with the maximum safety and protection that it's worth providing.. until the economy improves and industry grows.. if they work hard and build up their industry, it'll get to a point where it makes enough money to support the workers and give them some safety nets as well. but if you just say 'this isnt fair, i refuse!' then it won't grow. it'll disappear.

>>1464799
Oddly i just started posting videos on my youtube about drawing with tips and such. I have considered doing some tutorials

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Question for everyone really, people who commission artist and artist the do commission. Is there a market for traditional art like mine? Or should I start learning digital lol. I know the logistics are more complex because of shipping the drawings and what not, but I figure like anything else that can always be worked out. What do you guys think?

>>1465369
I should take a look at rupert sometime. I love his comic

>>1466072
as long as you have a good scanner you're good, it just means it'll take you longer. the art looks great

>>1465010
That is not nearly worth $25. Jesus.

>>1466135
25 is a lot for a sketch but that's some guuud art. what's the finished product look like?

>>1465092
Scan, my boy

>>1464905
goals right there

>>1464360
Guessing cow tits and asses aren't your thing.

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Doing Pin-ups+fully rendered backgrounds for $60-$100.

[email protected]

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>>1457929

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[email protected]

down for doing pretty much whatever's legal.

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>>1467381
>inb4 full color pic

>>1465321
>>1465435
>talking about history
>comparing to buying porn online
this is why i dont come here anymore, cheap fucks

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>>1444890
welp, the BF just lost his job unlawfully... so while we spend the week fighting this, I guess I'll shill a bit so we can buy his meds and food.

I am open to most kinks for this sale. I guess just ask if you're completely not sure.

25USD each character, paypal only.
Send me an e-mail at [email protected]

Hope you all have a lovely weekend guys!

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>>1467834
damn, forgot galleries

puhker.tumblr.com (NSFW)
abused-mule.tumblr.com ( SFW)

>>1466636
I'll draw anything my dude and make it woth the money

>>1467381
that is an interesting chart. I could make sense of it, but I wouldn't be shocked if others couldnt


... you dont live somewhere where drawings can be illegal do you?

>>1467381
>have to do algebra to work out your prices

Maybe simplify it. I like the idea, but it's confusing.

>>1466072
>Is there a market for traditional art like mine?
I imagine if you draw well enough, then sure.

But I also think your problem would be the time taken. It's so easy to make minor tweaks to digital images.

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>>1467398
Nah man just pedo shit.

>>1468057
Adding a second character is double the price minus $5, every other character is the original price but every additional character is price minus $10.

i.e. three sketched full-body characters with no background would total $25, with $15 being for the one character and $10 for the other two.

Sorry 'bout the math, it's probably wrong, I didn't think it wouldn't fit otherwise. Still working out the kinks.

>>1468446
first meant for >>1468003

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Weekend Sale! Only taking four slots. I'm fine with any kink and any characters so don't be afraid to ask. Have a fun weekend guys!

[email protected]

>>1444890
>>1468455
Anchoring!

>>1444890
Oh shit senpai didn't notice this
>>1467381
>>1468446

>>1468450
>nah but yes
i'm confused. if you're in england, just fucking move here.

>>1468472
I mean I'm not drawing pedo, pretty much everything else is fine.

>>1466685
Well hello Ms. Shit spamming Autismo

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Fiction writer here. Pretty much available for most kinds of fuckery. More than happy to supply examples of some of the fiction I've written.

>>1469152
Would you mind posting a sample of your work?

No problem


“Oh… I’ve missed you baby,” she cooed as her hips began to rock, “I’ve missed you so bad.”

“Me too, and Mmm, that looks fun.”

She felt another finger slip into her ass. Normally she was against this. After all, she wasn’t really big into anal, but damned if this didn’t feel good. She moved until she was barely on the seat, her breathing was hard, her feet up on the desk, and she began to moan out.

“Fuck… David, Fuck… Right there… Oh God right there, anytime you want it baby, anytime you want my ass… Mmmm…”

She felt her heart racing, her need growing, and those fingers worked hard to get her exactly where she needed to go. Soon her t-shirt was up, off, and on the floor, “David… I’m so close…”

She felt it go a little longer, the fingers working hard, and then she felt the first stirrings of an orgasm. It hit hard, threatening to completely knock her out. Two weeks of nothing, and damn, was this a good one. Her eyes opened after a bit, she smacked her lips, and then she noticed the red indicator light of broadcasting signal was lit up.

She looked around and saw that her foot was resting on the broadcast button for the microphone. She pulled back her heel, and once it came back the light went off. Desperately, she hoped that no one was listening at that moment.

(Naturally that's not the full story, just one of the scenes from it.)

>all this gobshite SU-influenced art

jesus christ learn some basic anatomy you fuckers, this is trash

why the fuck do people even commission even three-quarters of you lot, this is awful. and to top it all off, there's some cunts saying that the prices are too low? i wouldn't fuckin touch most of these cave paintings with a rented dick

>>1469827
K.

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>>1469827
Tell us how you really feel.

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>>1444890

Back again with some lower prices!

Yes please: Yuri, Slime girls, Chubby / Thicc, Pinup / Solo, Teasing, Futa, Oral
No Thank You: Non-Con, Loli / Shota, Scat, Gore, Beastiality

See more at http://slimii.tumblr.com

If you're interested, send me an email at [email protected]

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>>1470750
here's a sketch i did recently

thinking of selling something like this for £15!

>>1468446
just charge the same per character senpai

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Just sketched this.

Well, a series of these anyway.
You can see more at
https://mcdollart.tumblr.com/

email me at
[email protected]

I draw practically anything.

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>>1444890
Posting again because I'm free atm and because I opened my new NSFW Tumblr

dania-nsfw.tumblr.com

>>1468455
Did all slots get taken? I sent an e-mail but no reply

Is anyone here experienced with anime art styles?
>go to /a/
They don't have a thread like this there, so this is my only hope.

>>1472071
yo. if you mean specific styles, also yo.

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>>1448727
Just finished this request.

>>1472353
>>1472357
Third time's the charm?

anyone good at and willing to draw toon link stuff?

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>>1472071
I have done some anime stuff before.
>>1449739

>>1472378
Do you have any examples of what you are looking for?

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>>1469827

>>1472386
something like this
https://i.imgur.com/T1QZuos.jpg

>>1472390
It's really not though, he's right. SU has a horrible art style, and drawing porn of an unappealing style is silly.

>>1472361
I seriously need to start shading like this. It looks good.

>>1472396
Good thing you specified, since that looks nothing like Toon Link


hey.. your name wouldn't happen to be Isaac, would it?

>>1472402
you're right, now that I think of it. I was thinking more of a cartoony link and got confused. either way though, the face can be toon/not toon.

>>1472396
Im not sure if my art style is for you but here is my commission info just in case.
>>1449739

>>1472428
how much would a simple flat color like the ryuko cost? And do you have any sample of femboy stuff you've drawn?

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>>1471699
Not at all, I have two slots currently available!

>>1472439
I would charge 35$ for it (30 for the inked line art and 5 for the base color)
And i have done futa but not femboys. From what i can tell, a femboy is just a very feminine man with puffy nipples and broad hips, right?

>>1472416
oh, it is.
>>1472439
yeah.. don't.. guy, this is that guy that chargebacks everyone. according to others in this thread, that is. he never did it to me. I'm hoping calling him out like this doesn't mean he decides to retaliate, but.. eh, I'll gladly risk my own money to protect others'
>>1472445
oh hey I did this same commission!

>>1472475
nah I'm not isaac. Never charged anyone back.

>>1472495
so you just put your name on as a joke, and it's coincidence you're asking for a boy in a playboy bunny outfit?
shit, I'm not Columbo. that works for me.

>>1472500
>works for me
good.

>>1472475
Are you talking about me?
>>1449739

>>1472522
oh yeah i was warning you. i didnt reply properly looks like
i dunno man even if it is him, maybe he's turned over a new leaf. cuz he never scammed me.
just to be safe, use an invoice.

>>1472588
I can really be scammed since i take payment before i even start working.

>>1472598
yeah the scam in question is that, sometime later, paypal takes your money back because he asked his bank to ask them to
this is all totally secondhand, i'm surprised nobody else has piped up yet given how vocal they were a few threads back

>>1455697

As a buyer Ive cut back a lot but at my highest for a solid year there was almost never a period I didn't have something in the works

>>1455867

Ive gotten a number of good requests for free as well as some crappy ones. I certainly appreciate anyone who draws for me, I do but commissioning not only insures a certain amount of quality but also that it even gets done. The last time I got a request done for free was over a year ago. It came out great but if you really want a piece done you're better off commissioning.

More to the point if all you do is spam the same requests every draw thread all you're doing is pissing people off. Artists tend to congregate so if they do your request the first time chances are they aren't going to do it the next 10 times you ask. Jesus fuck remember when self bumping wasn't discouraged? That was a nightmare

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I have no job and nothing but time. This is my first time taking commissions online, so I hope I can find my first customer this weekend.

>>1472599
Never had anything like that happen to me.

>>1472599
One person scammed here: I got my chargeback fees reversed, but I'm guessing it's because I got lucky with who I was talking to at the time. If you ask to talk to someone in the disputes dept. or whatever it's called then you could possibly get the fee removed. It may not solve the whole problem, but it's good to let them know that you're not the one at fault. Apparently they've contacted the guy's bank, but haven't gotten a response yet. I was told that all I could pretty much do is wait at this point, and make sure my account isn't in the red. Hopefully the money should be refunded after a while.
I dunno if this'll serve any purpose, just make sure to call paypal I guess

thinking about taking commissions, anything I should know about paypal? never used one before

>>1472655

DON'T MENTION IT'S FOR PORN! They hate that. I don't know why but they will shut your account down.

In fact don't let your buyers email you payments just send them invoices.

>>1472658
how do you send an invoice?

>>1472661

Ionno. Not an artist. Ive just had a few explain stuff to me so I wouldn't accidentally fuck them over. Im sure there's an option.

>>1472661
just poke around on the site, it's under 'send and receive money' i think
you just fill out a simple form
>>1472658
this, but thankfully you can still say it's for drawings, or whatever. but if someone sniffs out that you're using it for 'business' but not giving them a cut, you can get your account frozen for that too.. i get a mix, honestly. I leave it up to the customer to decide whether to count it a business thing or not.
both the buyer and seller would get in trouble if they knew it was porn so there's no just getting-turned-in

>>1472611
>if they do your request the first time chances are they aren't going to do it the next 10 times

Not for the Madam Mim fag or Bonnie or Panda

>>1472658
>>1472667
>>1472669
what about through gmail?

>>1472820
How would you go about transferring money from one account to another on gmail?

>>1472839
I need to know how to do this.

>>1472839
>>1473028
never done it before but the tutorials you can search up seem easy enough

>>1472839
wait, are we talking about google wallet? it's not gmail but you use your gmail to get it, so everyone with a gmail account has access to it.
i worry about that because i'm nervous enough letting google know anything of mine, but theoretically it's less restrictive than paypal? so that'd be nice.
It's honestly weird to me that all the dissatisfaction on the modern internet hasnt been solved by all the lingering innovation from the pre-you-can-actually-make-money-on-this-shit internet of the early 00s, combined with cutting-edge entrepreneurial tools and the drastically lowered .. what do you call it? entry-height? yknow, that thing that means anyone can do it.

>>1473169
>wait, are we talking about google wallet?
yes

>but theoretically it's less restrictive than paypal? so that'd be nice.
same, I'll have to look into that

>It's honestly weird to me that all the dissatisfaction on the modern internet hasnt been solved by all the lingering innovation from the pre-you-can-actually-make-money-on-this-shit internet of the early 00s, combined with cutting-edge entrepreneurial tools and the drastically lowered .. what do you call it? entry-height?
there probably is but just very unknown. if anything I'm surprised there isn't someone from this site that's made a similar service for all the lolicons and shit

>yknow, that thing that means anyone can do it.
entry-level iirc

>>1472071
>>1446827

Im amazing at it. Email me for samples.

>>1472599
Scammed me too.
My paypal is still fucked because those cunts decided not to reverse all of the chargeback fees.
They were like 10 bucks each on top of the 15 per sketch!
I always keep an eye out for that same scammer to warn people.
They have very specific OCs and tastes.

>>1472619
What's wrong with BDSM or dom/subs?

>>1473423
how much for animations?

>>1472619
Do you have a site with your art?

>>1473446
>They have very specific OCs and tastes.
like?