>>1140279 I've been lurking around these threads since August, and have been thoroughly hooked on commissioning since then, with very few disappointments across the different artists I've contacted. Only one in fact has failed to deliver so far, and I still want to hold out some hope.
I meant to ask this some time in the last thread, but commissioners, how often have you ended up disappointed at the end of a commission process? I imagine I'm one of the lucky ones.
>>1140285 attached >>1140279 Just got here. This is by far the most successful I've ever been putting my shit out there.. more than deviantart or furaffinity ever got me.. no matter how much I put up commissions signs, they're like "oh you do commissions?" Paheal got me a little here and there, but that's it.
>>1140297 I'm somewhat picky when it comes to choosing someone. Out of the all the pictures I payed for I would say that three of them I would regret commissioning. I've been here since the beginning of the shilling threads and got about 10-15 images from a handful of artists here. It's nice to see the oldfags improve and also see some new blood arrive.
well, started up that Patreon I was threatening about. posted teasers to the blog, but assorted wrestling and shortstack-themed story ideas up for grabs, and votes based on contributers' input to decide what goes up when
and said blog with said teasers luffy316.blogspot.com/
>>1140279 I want to say my first lewd commission was in August of last year, and I've been pretty happy with every artist I've dealt with. Closest thing to problems was Salmon going awol, which he ended up apologising and making good for, and I think her name was like princess Sarah or something, who only delivered half of what I payed for, but admittedly, her prices were easily 50% what I was willing to pay, so I ended up just getting average value and a sense of frustration.
Sometimes I have difficulties sounding specific when I shill artists immediately after a commission, because pretty much all of them are at least passable in each regard of friendliness, professionalism, turnaround, and value, so I try to stress which of those were most pronounced on that artist. I don't know if it'd be uncool to just start ranking artists I've dealt with over the last few months x/10 in each of the 4 categories, plus any notes.
Speaking of, just got this from phally ( phallybro.tumblr.com ) super friendly, and just reworked their prices so the value is top notch.
>>1140279 Only really been aware of these threads for the past few weeks, seen a couple of people I might commission but not done so yet. Actually waiting to hear back from someone about a possible thing so we'll see how that goes.
>>1142620 I thought that was the spelling for years. as if it meant some variant of 'shitter' or something it turns out it's 'shyster', as in one who operates a shy, which is a british term for a crooked carnival game >the more you know
>>1142620 People jumped on him the last thread for shilling for someone else, or the way he did it or something, it derailed the thread for a while. Far as I can tell it's not a detraction towards the artist at all, I'm considering him as well.
>>1145801 Iv been wanting to sell stuff on etsy but i dont know what to sell. I dont have anything physical stuff to sell but i have lots of digital artwork. I tryed to sell desktop icons but that never worked and it cost money to keep things posted on there :/ If you have any suggestions, i would love to hear it.
You can see the rest of my work here. http://kingvego.deviantart.com/gallery/
>>1145809 >it cost money to keep things posted on there well that killed my etsy dreams. Most people I know just sell pins and magnets and shit like that. Just with random art put on them. Likely not even art they made themselves, and certainly not art they own the rights to
>>1145821 Ya, i think i still own them like 6 backs. Also, im not really sure i want to spend money to possibly not make money. Not including how annoying mailing shit up most be along with spending more money to so that to :/
hiya, I'm here to shill. I wanna buy some lewd shit and other stuff so I'm opening up commissions. I will draw anything except some fetishes, if you're interested hit me up at the tumblr on the bottom of the attached image ;p
>>1148388 You should post it! I thought I'd only get one or two clients, but now I don't even have to post my sheet anymore because my inbox is always filled and my commission queues have been full since September.
>>1148244 I don't have a lot of experience with it because there's not a lot of call for it and I can't find the free time to do it for myself, but I'd honestly love to get some male-centric commissions.
Hello all! My commissions are fully open again this coming Friday! I'm only taking a few slots to begin with so I don't get swamped, but it will return to normal as soon as I get the first wave out of the way!
As always, no loli/shota, scat/vore or noncon.
I'm happy to do solo male stuff also, and have done a bit of Yaoi in my time.
>>1149249 Money is one of 2 pros to the many cons of drawing for fetishists. Fetishes do poorly in overlapping with general porn making exposure difficult. When you work on a piece, especially a piece for compensation, the exposure the piece gets afterwards is crucial. If you make a piece that has few aspects to it then it goes far. Pieces with fetishes lose traction outside of their circles, ergo, a waste of time. Fetishes are a pitfall for the early stages of an artist's reputation.
>>1149285 What attitude? It's the truth. Only times drawing fetishes become viable are when it's yours or you don't care about gaining more followers. Anyone with a fetish follows vanilla artists, vanilla followers don't follow fetish artists. It's just facts man.
>>1148171 >more for nsfw on this board of all things At least you're being honest though rather then the "Ask me for pricing and charge $50 more then expected for this" anons. That's one of the red flags for me, if having to ask for pricing if not already on the commission sheet.
>>1149601 Which is the partly the point I was trying to make. Associating yourself with a fetish is detrimental and someone telling you to "just draw it, it's lots of money" is someone that doesn't know how the world is money works.
>>1149701 in what way is it a waste of time? What else was I supposed to be doing while I did that? because right then, nobody else was offering me money for art. THIS guy was. so I drew his gross shit and took his money.
>>1152283 I'm new to drawing porn for pay (that's me at [email protected] right above your comment), but what benefit would there be for me to give your info away or publically embarass you in any way? If you're using PayPal, you have the artist's name as well. I had the same concerns when I started, but, surprisingly, most people who commission work are super cool and aren't looking to screw you over. I get the feeling that most of the successful adult artists make most of their sales to repeat customers. If I chase you away, I don't get to make any money. And on that note, I'm running a great sale (at [email protected]) right now! Shill concluded.
>>1152283 A: It's pretty simple to set up a double account on paypal so you don't give away your real name (set up one in your real name, set up one under a fake name, transfer money to your fake account as necessary)
B: All artists have is a name. There are probably several people with the same name in your country.
C: What would an artist stand to gain from giving up your information? They'd definitely lose you as a client, and probably lose a bunch of potential other clients if you made a stink about it.
I use paypal invoicing to get my payments, and to keep a nice record of what's being sold to whom and so forth, and while I do have to connect a bank account to send the money to, I do not have to provide the customer with a name. Paypal business allows one to use a company name (my handle) to be on the invoices.
That being said, I'm relatively new and outside of the community. I haven't talked with anyone else who does this, or have info to go on outside of just watching the boards. I keep names out of all my end commissions because it would be bad business to ensure that people who buy from me have their names or emails or handle exposed. If they choose it, they can re-upload, re-blog, use the image they paid for however they wish to include citing themselves as the commissioner, but I, as the commissioned, have nothing to gain except potential headaches.
I don't know of a code, but on my end, it's impractical. Don't want to scare away potentials who may be worried about commissioning something they don't want tied to them or anything near them.
>>1152649 Despite my best efforts, I'm not really a painter. I can do very simple cell-shaded or gray tone and spot color, but that's about it. Here's the fruits of tonight's labor on my Picarto stream: http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/WickedInkArt/483989/Fuuka-Yamagish-WIP ...and my channel. https://picarto.tv/WickedInk
>>1152283 Ok so, because I use invoicing, and PayPal expects a physical delivery (until you tell it for every customer separately), I see people's names and addresses. I'd never reveal this to anyone because I don't stand to gain anything. I like my repeat customers where they are.
I did once see an address that's like, 10 minutes drive from me though, that was a shock.
>>1152744 Haha reminds me of my girlfriend, who makes sfw commissions (mostly people portraits) She asked my opinion about a drawing she made, thinking something was off. And I immediatly recognized that it was this guy working in the same building as me.
>>1155287 listen to your genitals what's a scene from animation you wish happened, but didn't? like, oh, for example, the constant feeling of 'when is chihiro going to get naked? this is a ghibli anime about hot springs, everyone else is a monster, there's literally no reason she's so fully clothed. totoro and only yesterday had bath nudity. they used the shoes as a metaphor but why only those?'
>>1143155 I've been meaning to turn this one into another opening image at some point. >>1154421 Not lately I want to commission more but I'm running out of ideas unless if I dive into old material again. (I've pitched the Psylocke x Brood idea five times since these threads started) I don't want to be that one anon who always asks for the same things but my hunger to see my British ninja waifu get sexed up by aliens (and other ideas) is insatiable. Help me.
>>1155660 well you're in luck prices seem to be dropping lately as competition increases. i'm not gonna complain, any more than I feel bad when high demand favors me in something. just to vaguely plump up our egos though, there ARE people who have the art style you like at a price you CAN'T afford, right?
>>1155663 Well, typically I like styles that are cartoonish/anime like, but still have somewhat realistic proportions. Sanfiw is a good example of an artist I've commissioned before who can deliver that. Hyper realism and exaggerated proportions don't really grab me.
Actually yeah there are, plenty even! Usually my financial situation only lets me go for coloured sketches and the like, stuff that goes higher than around 25 USD is outside my range. I live in Canada, and our currency isn't really the hottest right now, otherwise I'd buy art a lot more.
>>1155899 You probably haven't missed my post up at >>1148678 , but I seem to be around your price range and I feel like I could do what you're describing. If you're interested, I'd be happy to do up a sketch pro bono so you can see if I can give you what you're looking for without any commitment from your side.
>>1155899 i didnt know about that. it'll pick up soon, you guys have fucktons of natural gas. huh, I'm looking at Sanfiw and not seeing a real consistent art style.. but if it's cartoon faces on slightly more realistic bodies you want, that's pretty common.. and a complete picture under 25 bucks isn't impossible either as long as they aren't performing crazy gymnastics. I think you'll find what you're looking for.
>>1155984 I might take you up on that, I'll remember to send an email later. >>1156060 Yeah, Canada has kind of been in the shitter in terms of profits these last few years.
Honestly from what I asked of him, he was able to deliver really well, very adaptable. I'd rec him to anybody if I'm honest. And yeah, I know its just a matter of time until I run into exactly what I'm looking for, always is.
>>1157248 That's a fair bit out of my price range. I was looking for someone who is willing to work for below scale, and basically almost of free.
At 15 bucks a piece, that would be around 600 bucks total. That's far, far too high for what I expected to pay. There are also many cheaper chibi artists who work for around 5 bucks a piece, if not cheaper.
A chibi artist who creates in this style often can knock out a chibi in around 5-10 minutes, which is roughly 6 an hour. There was an anon in here that used to do pokemon transformations or something like that for around the price I'm looking for in a chibi style.
>>1157225 Well, like i said, i have done plenty of vault boy artwork in the past which is like an Americanized chibi. But i have done other "cute" stuff to. http://kingvego.deviantart.com/art/Commission-SS3-kirby-575182899 http://kingvego.deviantart.com/art/Adventure-Grumps-533473044
>>1157287 It's always worth asking. There's someone on a different forum who does the 3 variations for 15 bucks, thus 5 bucks a piece. Its still out of my budget, but less than a third of your asking price, or in essence is a better chibi portfolio.
Yo, just wondering if anyone would like to be art assistants? The workflow will go like this:
- I'll come up with the project (or we can collab on project ideas) - I provide initial sketches - the assistant artist(s) cleans the sketches by fixing anatomy and rendering out the line art - I fix up/finalize the line art and add color
I'm an artist myself, so I will know how to give specific instructions. If anyone is interested send me an email with the expected rate you want. The email is the name.
>>1157637 I can tell you I'd rather be in your role in that situation, but if it was consistent work and you were satisfied with my lineart (which you probably wouldn't be as it's nothing special and I don't have the best handle on nice varied-thickness lines yet), and it paid well enough, I would love to make that just an assembly line thing I do for cash every day.
>>1158067 Ooh that's a choice I wouldn't expect to have, but it does occur to me that my own style is going to shine through at least in terms of some shapes, if the sketch is vague enough to allow them... but i'd assume it'd be their style and like I said, I think I'd rather be the one doing the sketching and have someone else do the legwork, but then I'd understand the whole 'paying them' part because at that point you're the one getting your favorite thing
Just to test the waters, would people be willing to pay for work of this quality? I'm an amateur artist, and I'm not interested in drawing for a living, but I wouldn't mind using my hobby to make some cash on the side.
Critiques/recommendations welcome. And please let me know if this isn't an appropriate place to post something like this.
>>1158147 Almost. you're almost there. You've just gotta study a bit more construction and get things better under control. major issues include: >asymmetrical horns >tail clearly made as a 2d shape with lines added on >arms not drawn with elbows taken into consideration >toes too separate and feet both too small and drawn too formulaically >recessed pelvis >navel facing too 'up' for this angle, and found too high >head is tilted forward but nose still upturned still you have the basic body parts down, most of the features look nice. You don't need to pay much individual attention to those issues, just in general practice your construction and they'll solve themselves. and don't be afraid to copy poses verbatim from art you like.
>>1158164 Thanks! I really appreciate your feedback. When I'm sketching, I have a bad habit of ignoring construction and 3D space. I'll just make a rough sketch and tweak the proportions until everything looks okay. I should probably work on doing things more properly.
>bro you're underselling yourself >bro it takes me 10 hours to do a picture better artists do in 2 hours so i charge double what they do it works for me you can do better >trust me bro i get 2 clients a month
>>1158806 I agree with >>1159551 making it PWYW means that while some of the time you might only get 5$ or whatever, a lot of the time you'll find people are will to pay much more than that, and that's only a bonus to you.
I do PWYW sketches and I've found them SO good. If you're just using commisssions as a way of getting your name out and practising, PWYW is a really nice way of doing it. You'd be surprised by how much people pay!
>>1156834 Alright I got the artists I wanted on it, so i'm going to close it for now. Cheers everyone! (:
>>1156982 I could do that.. but it would probably get deleted almost instantly. We'll see Anon. >>1156984 A private commission for myself, the sauce is locked away in a hard drive on my computer. Sorry.
>>1157735 It will be consistent work. I also do non-lewd games on the side, and the work process is so fast and affordable. I just lay out the terms and the type of project I'm going for, and the artist(s) assist me.
Pretty much no bs. I'm not haggling on price since I go by the assistant artist's terms (if I can afford their service I'll bring them into the project) Not only that, I'm totally transparent with plans to raise funds...so they are open to negotiate their rate if I'm bringing in high stacked cash monies~
>>1157951 I would pay for whatever rate the artist is comfortable with. I sketch out a piece I want, the artist cleans it up for me, and I polish it up.
>>1158067 I'm open to incorporate their own style on certain projects, but most of the time I polish up the line art to a style I find aesthetically arousing.
>>1157225 >Probably around 40 in total, roughly 13 different ones, with around 3 poses each. Attached is the kind of style I'm after. >40 chibis >$60 budget >Wants well drawn artwork with detail, full color and shading > $1.5 per chibi/pose Are you fucking high? No capable artist is going to bend over that far for so little. You're one of those guys, one of those people, who really don't understand the work involved in making something. You know that word, right? Work. You want an artist to work on something for $1.5 per picture. It doesn't matter if it's chibi, it still takes just as much work, time and effort to make as a non chibi. Either stop living in the clouds and get some money together or learn to draw and do it yourself. Maybe then you'll fully realize why it's called artwork and not artfree.
>>1162680 >It doesn't matter if it's chibi, it still takes just as much work, time and effort to make as a non chibi. wellll that's the only part of his fantasy world that actually works out. you can sorta symboldraw up some quick simplistic proportioned things like that in a shorter time the real nails in that coffee are the detail and shading. That's nuts. If on the other hand you wanted something like, Mandingo's simple sketches of Shark Lass, you could ask for those for maybe 2 dollars each with a bulk discount... except why would anyone ever want 60 of them? that means presumably they have to match certain references or something, which is yet ANOTHER expense of the artist's time
>>1162707 >the real nails in that coffee HAHAHAHAHA Also no, even if you don't color or shade it, there's still a process for everything. What if the customer wasn't clear in the first place and the first sketch requires changes? What if the face isn't right? What if the pose/angle is difficult, regardless of the chibi style? What if, even if the point of chibi is simplifying the figure, it becomes unrecognizeable due to lack of a certain detail and the customer ends up unsatisfied anyway? There's plenty of missteps that can occur even before you get to outline a drawing.
These are the kinds of things people need to consider when they start spouting bullshit about charging "too much." All things considered, a lot of artists on this thread, myself included, are charging too little, regardless of skill level.
>>1162773 to me, it went without saying that they would pick someone whose chibi style is consistent enough that they wouldn't have to worry about faces ever being 'wrong', and no, no pose is difficult with chibi, that's the whole point.
I mean there's enough this guy is straight up wrong about, but you're harping on the few things he's almost right about. if you wanted me to draw something akin to, say, a peanuts comic, I might be able to give it to you with 4 characters in it for 8 bucks, without coloring or with only veyr simple flat coloring, as long as it was a no-brainer with characters I could already do without thinking hard
>>1163683 that's some nice rock waifu right there there is actually an /aco/ voltron thread yonder >>1152266 where that would be most welcome, even if it is mostly pidge at the moment. I think the idea is let's post more RARE stuff instead of just nonstop gay
>three commissions in line >all three artists didn't charge yet but provided basic sketches >3+ weeks without communication >can't commission anything else cause if they charge me all at the same time I'll be broke Pure hell
>>1164336 Well, whats their policy on communication if any? Have you tried contacting yourself? Are they they "OH MY GAWD CREATIVITY IS NOT TO BE RUSHED! YES THIS INCLUDES A $5 SKETCH!" or similar?
Artists or writers, do try to take care or pricing and time ahead of time. Kind of sucks ahead of time for both sides discussing something for awhile and discovering price (wanted from either side) is way off from the other would expect. Or finding out there's a massive line after said discussion.
Not to say things could cause prices to go up or down after discussion, just know going back and forth on e-mails kind of sucks when its something a client or artist decides not to do.
>>1163989 Hmm doesn't look simple, maybe that's what threw me off This one certainly looks well drawn. Good cloth folds. >>1164336 sounds like you're ordering more than you can pay for. We're not credit unions, you need to budget yourself better. In the meantime though, go ahead and talk to them. They'd rather hear you have to put them on hold than for you to go weeks without communication >>1164422 I wonder if that one is ever going to get back to me.. it's been like a month now since they said they had to wait to get paid. Good thing I only did a sketch. As it is I had to lowball 'em.
>>1164756 >sounds like you're ordering more than you can pay for. We're not credit unions, you need to budget yourself better I may have been a bit hyperbolic in the last post. "Broke" as in "spending a bit over my usual budget for commissions". The only thing that would happen is that I would have to cut back on other expenses and such
>>1164826 I was hyperbolizing a tad m'self. Basically everyone should try working together, especially since artists have budgets (both monetary and temporal) too. I always try to get my communication in asap, and if it's going to be a while, I let them know.
Has any drawfag here studied detailed human anatomy? Not trying to insult, just had a few ideas I want done really well. Not musclegirl fetish but like, every rib, every muscle on a fit person, + fucking involved.
>>1166420 That's a fairly cute idea. I'm not much of an interesting commissioner myself, and nothing I have would likely be able to help spice up futa since it's not my typical thing.
Most creative ideas I've had so far have been time-skip comparisons (as in, a picture featuring the same girl doing similar acts at different ages we've seen them in), an idea of making pin-ups of nude girls from mecha-based shows and games while holding plushie versions of their mech, and an experiment I did where I gave a few different artists the same basic concept for a picture--in this case, Zone-tan masturbating in her bedroom surrounded by sex toys and porn--to see how they did things differently from each other with the same concept.
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