Gantz and nihilism

>>162276847
That best and strongest human died genociding alien fucks. He was our best hope against the shapeshifting meme aliens.

That suite is amazing

>>162277926
is he wrong?

>>162277945
Yes. Ants aren't self aware.

>>162277973
are you sure? And even it they weren't? Our life has more value just because we are self-aware?

>paints himself black
>goes on a shooting spree
fucking dropped

>>162278013
Yes they fail the self awareness test you extra special anon.

what I sensed is a 700+ points scrub getting blown out in the chapter he's introduced

>>162278035
arrogant.

With that ending, I'm glad I didn't follow this closely and just skipped around to the end

>>162278050
No just correct.

>>162278068
you are dust. A bacterium life is the same as yours, and there's nothing you can do to change that.

>>162278099
Bacteria is a single cell organism. Homo sapiens are a multicellular verterbrate that is selfaware and wrote your shitty stupid comment.

>>162278099
Not that anon, but you're just plain gay and wrong.

>>162277926
>>162278033
why call someone arrogant and establish an opinion if everything is nothing?
Humans 1 aliens 0

>>162278138
you aren't proving anything. Stop posting and reflect.

>>162278151
why wrong?

>>162278158
You will never ever have a discussion about nihilism wth an ant or bacteria. Consider that.

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>>162278158
>>162278171
Being willfully ignorant doesn't make you right you stupid cunt, there's a clear difference between a single celled microorganism that isn't even aware of its existence on a meta level and a human being. Your argument is as stupid as the ending of this stupid manga but you don't even have fanservice at the start of every chapter

>>162278180
That's not the point. We are talking about the value of life, and the sense of superiority that man feels towards other animals and the world. You said we are self-aware, but I don't think this should put us automatically on the top. I think life has the same value in the world. The arrogance of humans in infinite.

>>162278214
you can't articulate your thoughts. I bet an ant is more intelligent than you. Tell me why human life has more value. WHY, try to articulate why.

>>162278223
The aliens in Gantz can say this to a human but ants won't understand them. They don't even know they exist.

>>162278251
How do you know they don't know they exist?

>>162278321
Because they can't see themselves in a reflection.

>>162278321
Insects are like biological robots. Stimulus in->no thoughts->action

>>162278354
>>162278363
We are biological robots in the same way. We are only aware of being biological robots. So, my question is the same: is self-awareness a sufficient reason for our life to have more value than others? Than the life of a cat, or a dog? I think it's arrogant
>>162278437
>nihilism
>nietzsche

lol, go read a book.

>>162277926
>>162278033
Isn't he just as arrogant as humans?

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I'm a Christian, and I still enjoyed the entirety of Gantz. There's a massive disconnect between the everything-is-nothing world of the manga and our world.

Pic related is one of my favorite scenes in the manga.

>>162278478
With increased cognition comes increased ability to suffer, so yes killing 10000 ants is not as bad as killing a cat/dog/human.

>>162278478
It's ego-centric rather than arrogant.

>>162277926
It always pissed me off that right after saying this, they went and killed clones of humans just like ants, of course no one brought that hypocrisy up because that would be asking the writer to have been trying even just a little bit by that point, I love the series but man if it isn't full of stupidity
Also what ever happened to Gantz G?

>>162278502
Replace the human with a picture of an ant sweating.
Then rearrange the lines to
>ants believe their lives and humans' lives are weighted differently.

>>162278625
It ended a few months ago.

>>162278247
it can do more things, wow that was easy

>>162276887
Nah, the weapons are strong, that's all there is to Gantz, have the strongest weapons make you the strongest mostly.

>>162278625

>It always pissed me off that right after saying this, they went and killed clones of humans just like ants

Wasn't that the whole point? To show them that humans aren't special, that they are also just "things"?

>>162277926
I never understood why they gave humans the means to fight back the invasion.

>>162278708
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

>>162278708

Pretty sure they flat out said they just did it on a whim and that they didn't have any reason beyond that.

>>162278708
They explain that. The god-aliens would need the help of humanity in 3000 something years that's why they helped humans survive the aliens and the invasion up to that point. So that they may grow and become allies to help the god-aliens.

>>162278024
stop spamming this shit on every thread faggot

>>162278478
Humans can save all these organisms in a variety of ways. That is altruism, they can also not save them they have free will and conscience.
If anything the humans are on a similar level to the aliens. Except the aliens aren't aware ants are stupid and can't hear them.
>>162278767
And there you go they need humans to help them. So they are weighted differently.

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>>162278437
ironic shitposting is still being shitposting

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>>16227868
wrong, for example naked izumi could beat nishi with gantz suit, its all about skill my man

>>162278247
Being able to do more does not necessarily equate to being of more value.

>>162279107
>>162278679

>>162278767
isn't that from the movie Arrival?

>>162278681
I was talking more about the Telekinetic who started doing ridiculous shit without the aid of weapons.

>>162279428
oh shit maybe it is.

>>162278437
Nietzsche was not a nihilist. He tried to find meaning in a godless universe, being too insane from syphilis to know that God had spoken through his prophet Joseph Smith (PBUH).

>>162277926
>>162278033
Heh, nice opinion nerd. *does 360 and walks away*

>>162277926

>I was more than happy to be your uncompensated proxy-faction/canon fodder in the Alien Invasion of my world, Omniscient-Alien Senpai, since it meant my race didn't end up street vendor fast food, but you're full of shit sometimes.
>Still, I'm honestly grateful. But can I just go now?

>>162280342
I would have liked at least one person there to have just tried to have called them out on their shit. What are they going to do? Explode you for trying to debate them on their retarded philosophy? They would just look like they were in the wrong then.

>>162278551

Truly a moving portrait of the triumph of the human spirit in the face of adversity. Bring a tear to my eye

>...ima fuck that thing

Oh god, I'm not being completely ironic

>>162277945
Yes, alien thing has no reason to kill but he does nevertheless.

>>162277926

This manga made me question the validity of being an ant cuck.

The philosophy in this manga is so deep....

>>162278708
iirc The giant aliens made the god aliens mad, so they decided to fuck em up

or it was that the planet earth had a lot of potential for developing and they didnt want it to be destroyed

>>162281278

The first one.

Eminent realpolitik, the empirically quantified souls of Metternich, Talleyrand, and Bismarck smile down in approval.

>>162276847
Oku is edgy, but cool-edgy not fedora-edgy. I'm really looking forward to Inuyashiki next season.

>>162277926
Everyone that responded before me is literally retarded. They resurrect and kill humans before them simply to prove that humans are nothing but "data," and that it is nothing more than hubris to think we have a special place not only in our world, but at the cosmos at large. It basically shatters the preconceived notions that we are made after God's image, and that our lives have an endemic purpose/value to them.

It supposed to show them their hyporcisy and worthlessness.

>>162281445

>btw souls are real and seem to have their behavior effected by actions and associations in previous instances of their existence
>in fact our readings indicate things are going to take a turn for the better for those assholes you're going on about
>but enough of that noise back to proselytizing our dogma of nihilistic disckishness

>>162281582
Yeah aliens what the fuck. "SOULS EXIST BUT FUCK YOU, YOU ARE DATA WATCH AS I USE MY MIND POWERS TO EXPLODE YOUR FRIENDS!". It's a shame they never got what they deserved

>>162281445
Wta bugged me is that if they wanted to prove that humans really are nothing but data to them then just let live the people that got ressed, if it means nothing one way or another and you already showcased that by resurrecting lara croft and idol girl then just let them live if it's nothing to you.

>>162278625
>Also what ever happened to Gantz G?
It got cancelled. They told the author to end it quickly.

>>162278013
Yes

We won't meet aliens lmao. Interstellar travel takes years even for light.

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>>162277926
We ain't eating the aliens plants why they mad lmao?

>>162282575
When we are able to travel at lightspeed we will be able to travel through time, since just nearing lightspeed distorts time.

But it seems impossible because doesn't lightspeed require the object to be mass-less? Or weightless?

>>162281402
That shits done bro.

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>>162284734
Sasuga someone who uses the word "bro", there's an anime adaption by MAPPA next season. Also, I don't acknowledge chapter 85 as the true end, in my headcanon, after the explosion, there was a page-wide 'to be continued' instead.

>>162276847
It ended in a very positive nite, though.

>>162281402
Next work when?

Sorry for OT, but don't know where else to ask. There was this great little minimalistic software I used to use to read manga, but I can't remember its name. Anyone has any idea what it was called?

>>162288858
Sure it was >>>/wsr/

>>162288933
fine..