One Piece

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YEAR OF KATAKURI'S DEATH

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In b4.

Oda where is my Germa 66 mecha? you fucking promised

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Threadly reminder that

Anyone who says "Oda is a hack" is a speedreader.
Hackposting is NOT criticism, it's just shitposting.
Calling out shitposting does not mean being an "Oda cocksucker/dickrider".
Anyone who replies to to this post negatively is just a butthurt hackposter.

>>162210476
Oda better not pull that shit he's been doing since the timeskip where we get bits and pieces of the fight through several chapters while showing other stuff nobody cares about, but we're obviously going to get lots of Sanji baking moments in between. I just want a full chapter dedicated to the fighting.

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NO BULLY BUNNY! Poor girl has suffered enough.

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I miss Hammock.

>>162210455
>>162210476
Katakuri is Big Mom's second son, right?
I hadn't really thought about it, but do you think Roger could be his dad?
Helooks a bit like Luffy, and we know Luffy looks a lot like a young Roger.
Big Mom did know Roger back in the day as well, and Katakuri has some crazy skill even among the BM pirates.

Probably not the case still, but it would explain some shit.

I'm somewhat doubtful Luffy will best Katakuri. Maybe if he pulls out another gear, but it just seems weird. If they escape after this, they'll have only to beat BM and Smoothie of the top 4. I'm thinking he'll be pushed to be stronger during the fight, but still lose. Or not.

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>>162210455
THAT'S IT, KATAKURI! YOU HURT MY NAKAMA! NOW, YOU'RE GOING DOWN

>>162210455
OH MY SPECIAL PARAMECIA

PROPERTY OF BOTH MOCHI AND LOGIA

>>162210542
If Luffy can't take down Katakuri now there's no way he'll even be able to touch Kaido in Wano

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Thoughts on Nami and Robin's tits?

Remember when we had comfy threads?
Then Naruto, Bleach and Fairy Tail ended

>>162210502
>>162210525
>>162210539
Reminder that spamming these pictures contributes nothing to the threads and in fact only summons more shitposters. But I guess you might be a falseflagger anyway.

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>>162210541
KEKED

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Oda, where's my friend Zoro?

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Cutedro

>>162210609
nude edit pls

>>162210601
He's going to have a lot more help in Wano, as well as likely having a plan in place to help take out someone as tough as Kaido.

>>162210601
That could be true. Though people tend to think Kaido will be a team fight, but it would be a bit weird to go from losing to a Commander to beating a Yonkou, so maybe you're right. Though he could always beat a different Commander later, but before Kaido.

>>162210611
And HxH went into another hiatus.

>>162210541
Katakuri doesn't seem more important than a benchmark for Luffy's current strength. Making him Roger's son wouldn't really serve any narrative purpose

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Can Luffy defeat an opponent whose devil fruit has the properties of both Logia AND Paramecia?

>>162210614

But you have to admit this >>162210539 is legit funny.

For the others, yeah, I agree, it attracts shitposters more than scaring them away

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>162210611
I want to protect his dreams.
...I wonder does pekom's know he's kaput.

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>>162210657
Don't even remind me

>>162210665
Hisoka is so fucking handsome.

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>he lost his fucking arm

When did One Piece get so dark?

>>162210651
>>162210641
I think it'll be a team fight because Kaido is the world's strongest living being right now and if Luffy can beat him one on one, his strength has effectively plateaued in the One Piece world.

Katakuri has a no bullshit attitude. Lucci has a no bullshit attitude.
Katakuri has the same quirk like Luffy.Lucci was hand to hand specialist like Luffy.
Katakuri looks down and praises Luffy. Lucci looked down and praised Luffy.
Luffy took Katakuri away to let the team escape. Luffy held Lucci so team could rescue Robin.

What more proof do you need to understand that Oda is a talentless hack that made a name for himself by taking credit fom someone elses work. He is a hack like Ridley Scott, like George Lucas, like Togashi. He is only capable of rehashing old formula and hoping that his brainless fans will eat it up.

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>>162210638
>He wasn't able to go out with Roger and become part of the Pirate King's crew
>He grew up and trained a cute little bunny, even giving her claws when he saw she wasn't meant for the sword
>Now she has a chance to go to sea with the next king of the pirates after he has passed on
>And faggots STILL think she's not going to

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>>162210681
>Muh rabbits pounds mochi
>Muh moon rabbits

>>162210665
He'll eat the mochi until katakuri runs out

>>162210703
New World babeeeeeeee

>>162210703
Since Chapter 001

>>162210703
Around Impel Down I think.

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>I'll take you to the candy shop
>I'll let you lick the lollipop
>Go 'head Pedro don't you stop
>Keep going 'til you hit the spot, whoa

>>162210703

Dark Piece thread was hella funny
Like the jobber thread

I liked them because it extinguished a meme instantly before dragging them for months.

Sadly the jobber one is still ongoing

>>162210717
Eh it was just a theory A FIIILM THEORY I ain't even mad.

>>162210708
Oh no, the MC did the same in character action twice in a 900 chapter manga!

>>162210703
Uhh...Shanks? Law technically

>>162210743
So when is the Hack meme ending?

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Well I guess Luffy will escape via Germa ship with Sanji.

>>162210778
Pretending to be retarded tactic never won an argument, kid.

>>162210811
i want the asspull meme to die first

>>162210818
yeah most likely. Can't see a way that luffy can actually beat katakuri right now.

>>162210833
It just did.

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Can't wait for Katakuri to get his shit kicked in

>>162210476
Is this the first opponent Luffy will kill? Given that Pedro suicided, we can only hope that it fueled LUffy enough to kill some BM pirates. Let's have a little break down.

Luffy vs Cracker
*Luffy had to deal with the "body" first
*Fight lasted really long
*Cracker had a cracker army besides him
*Luffy beat him with Nami (and thanks to rain)

Luffy vs Katakuri
*Luffy will have to figure out how to hit him?
*It will last as long as Luffy has energy
*Katakuri has BM pirates backing him up
*Second strongest BM pirate? Son? Can't really remember

Overall we will see another gear? My bet is on Luffy seeing how Katakuri is equivalent of Kaidou's Jack and they both are known jobbers.

>>162210818
you mean with the Germas mecha

>>162210858
>*Katakuri has BM pirates backing him up
This point doesn't matter. Katakuri said before that they would all pass out in a matter of seconds in front of Luffy which clearly indicates that they are fodder he can just King's Haki into oblivion.

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>>162210455

Furfags btfo. Twice.

Delicious.

>>162210818
What reason would sanji even step foot onto germa again when he's with Pudding and Chiffon? He's not going back to that place ever again aside from maybe saying goodbye to reiju and visiting sola's grave.

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>>162210902
Shut the fuck up Perospero

>>162210778
Do not reply to lie quality bait

9 chapters left

>>162210855
Sad carrot should not exist.
>>162210902
Rude. Also he lost an arm. Also could have killed the germa family if he shut the fug up.

>>162210818

>Jinbei & co escape with fishmen crew help
>luffy & sanji escape with germa help

yet im still convinced that pudding deleting someone's memory will play a factor in all this

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>>162210703
What the fuck are you talking about? 8 year old BM ate her friends less than 15 chapters ago.

>>162210971
dumb frogposter

>>162210936
Perhaps to save Luffy if it comes to that? It's not to hard to think of a feasible reason that he could be forced to interact with the Germa again, though he's obviously going to be busy with making the cake for the foreseeable future, so if it does happen it would have to happen afterwards.

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>>162210985
>she never put two and two together years later of how exactly she got caramel's soul powers despite never eating a devil fruit.

>>162211063
She's repressing it.

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KICK HIS ASS RUFI

Calling it now. Big Moms mental breakdown after she realizes that she was the one who killed Mother Carmel will be the cause of her defeat.

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JINBEI CONFIRMED

>>162211087
And Kaido will die when Moria steals his shadow and leaves him in sunlight.

>>162211099
Huh?

>>162211099
Jinbe will sacrifice himself to save Sanji confirmed.

>>162211099
I don't get it

>>162211118
>>162211125
Cat has the same color scheme as Jinbe.

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>>162211099
PUDDING CONFIRMED

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>another chapter
>no monet

nice

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>pedro and wanda really were childhood friends
God it'll be terrible when Carrot has to explain where he is.

>>162211099
WUT

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>>162209738
>>162209813
Imagine being Big Mom after this arc and having to be all like "damn, Smoothie, you fuckin' useful, all helping with your personal engagement and and keen strategic observations. I would totally rely on you, both regarding my pirate crew and the entirety of Totto Land" when all she really wants is to have Katakuri or Cracker back. Like seriously imagine having to be Big Mom and doing all the work while Smoothie just sits in her chair, the favorable lighting barely concealing her slut tattoo, and does nothing but drink rock juice while everyone else risks their lives. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking legs but her haughty attitude as everyone on the battlefield tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, SMOOTHIE'S INPUT LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have take reponsibility and watch their reputation tarnished in ways you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been doing nothing but build a respectable foundation for your crime empire and later alleged interracial breeding grounds for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Elbaf. You've never even seen anything this fucking useless before, and now you swear you can taste the liquid that she's wringing out of some turd, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to have her in your crew and revel in her "powerful (for that is what she calls it herself)" ability, the ability she basically only got because of your underworld connections. And then she makes another comment about what should be done, and you know you could eat every single person on this island before Gear 5 Monkey God Awakening could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Big Mom. You're not going to lose your future chance at tea parties over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

>>162211075
I...want to believe that but I can't
>pudding forcibly pulls out her darkest memory

>>162211156
wait until Mont-d'Or gets knocked out

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>>162210710
AntiCarrots got fucked up so hard this chapter

>>162210455
Because furfags are retarded. For example
>>162202294
>oh i think a stupid fucking bunny will join because she's cute
>I'm worse than rebeccafag and monetfag
Get figuratively fucked

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>>162211099

>>162211194
I don't know why but this makes me sad

>>162211203
Momo is king of your zoo. Literally can do anything carrot can except actually contribute to advance the plot.

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Franky will be assblasted when he sees that someone munched on his boat

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>>162210476
why am i more excited for this fight than luffy vs doffy?

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Did Luffy Haki the shit out of brulee?

>>162211156
>another chap
>carrotfags still clamoring
lol

>>162211145
>carpet represents rabiyan
>white like the wedding dress
>light brown represent her hair
>three stripes on forehead, represent third eye
GODA

>>162211300
Dressrosa was actually a terrible arc

>>162211269
At least he'll be happy with getting something to do.

I'm still convinced Carrot isn't going to become a crewmate but at least this chapter finally gives her a solid reason to join. She's got actual motivations now and some emotional weight to her story, assuming Pedro stays dead.

Maybe now her supporters can actually provide a real discussion instead of dumping their image folder and talking about fucking the bunny.

>>162211217
Too much of a pussy to reply to me in that thread, huh?
>>162211264
"Literally can do anything carrot can"

>>162211300
Because here there is actually a possibility Luffy might lose. Also unlike with Doffy we still don't know what Katakuri is capable of and we don't know what to expect. We know even less about his personality and backstory.
Moreover the stakes are more personal and less black and white "MUST SAVE EVERYONE" than with Doffy. Katakuri actually has respectable motivations for pursuing Luffy.

>>162211399
dumb frogposter

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>>162211317
>>162211375
>being this mad

>>162210541
the biggest give away is that katakuri's mouth got fucked up

Mom hates seeing the faces of people she hates and we know she tortured Chiffon over it.

Katakuri inherting Roger's trademark smile probably made Mom to "Joker" him

>>162211303
Nah he just held her throat for too long while he was saying goodbye to the crew.

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>>162211406
>there is actually a possibility Luffy might lose.
C'mon

>>162211399
>frogposting
Stupid fuck

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Question, is it really hard for you to enjoy a chapter and take it for what it is rather than jump to conclusion and whine because something didn't go your way? I'm convinced some of you have your own warped ways on how this arc should go if not the entire series and then cry foul when things don't play out the way you want.

>>162210743

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/157944707/

GODLY THREAD REPORTING IN

>ctrl+f "dark"
>70 results

>>162211495
HOT GLUE
O
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G
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U
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what would it take for you redditards to finally admit oda is a hack?

pedro didn't die
big mom liked the cake so much he gives pedro back his 50 years

>>162211485
He lost twice to Crocodile.
The possibility he loses and Sanji + Pudding + Chiffon save him for him to try again and win later exist.

>>162211399
>replies
>too much of a pussy to reply?
Carrotfags

>>162211485
Well there is. He's alone in the mirror world against someone likely stronger than a previous enemy that he struggled to defeat, even with major aid from Nami and her vivre card. Doflamingo too was a fight that required a huge assortment of supporting characters to help Luffy win. In this instance he's got none of that, he's on his own this time.

I personally think he's just going to focus on lasting as long as possible, then something will happen that will alter the mirror world and he'll have to back out of the fight. That way he's not explicitly lost the fight, but has kept going with the plan to flee and fight another day.

>>162211587
>reading comprehension

>>162211624
>obligations outside of the internet

>>162210703
will he make himself a candy arm now?

>>162210985
>>162211063
I still can't help but feel there's some ruse to this.

Yeah, it's really dark and all signs are pointing to it having gone that way.
But then we got dangling threads like the guys working with Caramel just giving up on her entirely, and the fact that it so obviously was set up to be what happened yet we were specifically not shown nor told it and instead got two "witnesses" who also didn't explain it.
Now we got this cake shit going on which will probably completely win over Big Mom cause it's fucking Sanji's cooking, and Pudding herself having a power that could explicitly show us what happened.
It all just seems too convenient and set up for a twist despite everything else insisting there isn't one.

>>162211449
Even if Carrot does join the crew at the end of Wano you'll still be autistic

>>162211649
Stop slacking off.

>>162211485
so mister ellipses is the sacrificial badguy to get luffy to the 1 billion capable for the real bad guy jack next arc? what are the chances luffy eats mochi and tankman's him?

>>162211662
Yes, why wouldn't he?

>>162211697
>thoughtlessly spams carrot
>accuses anon for slacking off
Carrotfags

>>162211662
i would love it if he did and he's constantly licking his arm while throwing cliche licking puns

>>162210858
inb4 Luffy works out all he needs to do is make an attack that Katakuri can't dodge

King Kong Gun should get it done

>>162211675
nice

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So Pedro is alive?

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>>162211572
>pedro didn't die

>>162211844
>I'm 10 years old and I don't know what a figure of speech is

>>162211675
And Monet will still be dead.

>>162211844
Mangastream added "again"

>>162211459
If Katakuri-kun has secretly been smiling under his big rags this entire time, but kept that stern face, I'm going to laugh my ass off. It'll be like that fucking faceapp thing.

>>162211906
What happened to Monet anon
I kind of miss him.

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>Perospero died and Pedro survived
>there was an apple nearby
>Pedro ate that apple
>Pedro coats himself with newfound candy powers to disguise himself as Perospero

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>>162211844
Just the usual awkward translation from Mangastream.

Did Big Mom steal Roger's lifespan? How does he know "his time is limited"?

>>162211985
He was dying from an incurable disease throughout his entire voyage.

>>162211985
are you saying Roger coward towards BM!?

>>162210708
See>>162210525

BTFO

>>162211985
He has an incurable disease at the time or somthing

>>162210476
inb4 power up

Aw I REALLY wanted them to blast off WITH Katakuri onboard. What a cockblock

Also is this the first time the Sunny has taken damage like that?

>>162211966
I like this. He can give zuni candy armor

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Loli Carrot

anyone got that virgin sabo vs chad peropero meme?

>>162210710
>this chapter basically confirms that she will be left in a similar situation like pedro that time with Roger since her time to shine has not yet come
>Another character officially already joined the crew a few chapters ago
>"HURR NOW IT'S OBVIOUS GUISE SHE'LL JOIN I SWEAR ON MY MUMS TITS"
fucking retards everywhere holy fucking shit

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>>162212290

>>162212355
>spinning this hard

Damn this chapter was pretty damn good.

Have to give Perospero credit for not giving a fuck about having one arm blown off.

>>162211063
Did she know mama had the fruit? Caramel used it to help with her cons, and to subdue MAHM, but I don't think that she used it to distract the kids (since she'd need souls to do that and they were on a deserted island.)

is ruffy eating mochi and stealing sake under the light of a full moon riding a rabbit on the cover?

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>another chapter with no sapu
C'mon Oda

>>162212372
Nah. You first.

>>162212290
Kawaii desu

So is the Germa family just laying around dead somewhere? Fuck i'm not made to read comics weekly, I can't remember shit

If it wasn't obvious enough this chapter basically confirms Jinbe will act as the helmsman.

>>162210527
I don't. I want Katakuri to get a real fight later against Zoro or Sanji.

>>162212389
>look at me being in denial - the post

Why does Smoothie exist

>>162212509
no fucking way
this is known for like what 5 years?

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Carrotfags unite!

>>162212602
There are still people who delude themselves into thinking Jinbe will be a fleet captain or die

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>>162212606
Nice

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>>162212419
Quick trip down memory lane

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>>162212606

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i love luffy

>>162210476
Why can't they be friends? They both care about their crewmates, they both want Momma to get her cake. Do they have to fight?

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>>162212606
>Join my crew!

>>162210455
>Oda stretching the arc even further
Gomu Gomu no Stalling

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How is this fucker not a logia again?? I hate hackfags but this "special paramedics" bullshit really isn't making sense to me and seems wholly unnecessary.

>>162212636
Oh. Guess it's just more fuel for the retard fire.

>>162212776
He doesn't create mochi, he just cut it from his body. Basically a sticky and elastic Buggy.

>>162212776
Paramecia is basically anything that Oda does not want to classify as a Logia or Zoan.

>>162212606
>>162212623
unite or untie?

>>162212708
Katakuri sees Luffy as a threat to his Mama. He's of the opinion that he has to take him out here and now in the event he grows too powerful and tries to harm her later. He's a good Mama's boy above all else, friendship comes second.

>>162212776
Think T-1000.

>>162212884
Untie, then "unite".

>>162211406
Nah, either Luffy will win through an asspull or it will be a stalemate and Luffy will escape

Hate to admit it but luffy is cool and badass in this chapter.

>>162212776
Cause Logia are supposed to be elemental or natural matters.
Light, Fire, Smoke, Sand, Ice, Snow, Gas etc.

>>162212598
fanservice also aphelandra's character design was too good to leave it at her.

>>162210743
One Piece has a darker world than Berserk or Fist of the North Star, it's just juxtaposed by the happy go lucky nature of the protagonist crew.

>>162212776
Luffy has a paramecia that affects his body. So does Buggy and Bellamy. Jozu can turn his body into diamonds.

Katakuri can turn his body into mochi, something that is normally tangible. Oda is taking the mochi pounding thing a bit seriously though and making it so that he can take physical blows without taking damage. I'm sure the fight will better define his powers.

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>>162210529

REEEEEEEEEEEEE THEY KEEP BULLYING TOP BUN.

Seriously though, I hope she actually does something cool. So far she's just been thrashed. Still holding on to the theory that Monet's devil fruit grew onto one of Nami's oranges and she will eat it.

>>162212708
Pretty sure they respect one another at the very least. Maybe that can blossom into a friendship later down the road. Moreover they're about to fight, and since this is a shonen you might as well say they're about to undergo a quick and dirty couple therapy.

>>162210708
Usopp isn't there to save Luffy and Katakuri is going to be more like Blueno than Lucci during this fight.

>>162212947
if Smoke and Lava are Logias then a compound with sticky properties could be Logia as well

>>162212776
he can adjust his body an see the future
actually i can see the future too
>carrot 11th mugiwara

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>>162213024
>implying monet is dead

>>162212818
>>162213018

That's what I used to think. This WOULD make sense if the top right panel didn't show him generating mochi from his body.

>>162212947

This makes a little more sense. I'd think they would just make special classes of Logia instead though, such as "elemental Logia" to the "mythical Zoan", considering how Kuri's fruit essentially has the same properties as a Logia anyways. I guess that's just semantics, though.

>trying to make sense of hack writing

Carrot for nakama confirmed.

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>>162211495

>>162213109
>cumo cumo no mi

>>162213109
>Logia
>Literal meaning: Nature System

>>162213109
No, because Mochi is human made product made as its a rice cake made into paste.
Mochi is not a natural force.
Smoke and Lava are.

>>162210703
Ace's death was pretty much the pin on the balloon

>>162210703
Zeff ate his own leg before the 100th chapter mark.

Katakuri's powers are bullshit because he's an awakened DF user

This chapter was fun.
Katakuri is so cool.
This is a haiku

>>162213127
Well he can also create mochi like Magellan can create poison and Galdino can create wax. So it has all the powers of a logia but it's not a logia because fuck you it's special.

I feel like it follows all of the paramecia conventions in the sense that we have seen paramecia users both create their power and have their bodies morphed into their power, but how logias are any different at this point I don't understand.

If Katakuri had a mochi like body, it would make more sense. Jozu can turn into diamonds, but I'm pretty sure he can't just grow more diamonds on his body if he's injured (otherwise he'd have another arm)

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>>162213318
Everyone except katakuri is stupid

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>>162213120

Anon...I.. don't want her to be dead either. She was one of my top choices for new nakama. At this point I'm going to accept she's dead. Waste of a good character.

>>162213201
>>162213199
Mochi can also mean "sticky" just like Hie means "chilly", the Logia's names usually refer more to characteristics of the element and not the elment itself

Oda could've easily made Katakuri's element something similar to resin and be done with it

>>162213345
Katakuri himself is still not actually mochi. His body has its properties, and he can produce infinite amounts of it, but he is not actually mochi. Also logia are only allowed to be naturally occurring things.

>>162213127
They aren't generated, they are cut. The more he cuts the smaller he gets.

>>162213391
Not being stupid won't make Katakuri not lose.

Sidenote WCI has been nonstop insane since the wedding started which was half a year ago.

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>>162213395
>nakama
>poisoned children with drugs
>attacked robin
>nearly made the island asplode

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>>162213345
>how Logia is different.

>>162213345
Imagine if Aokiji could create ice from himself, but couldn't freeze the ocean.

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Luffy won't beat Katakuri because he will resemble Ace since he's the offspring of Roger. It will probably end in a draw or inconclusive for the future war. Screencap this I'm right

>>162213478
You know what's missing in all this? the bird cage.

>>162213526
Even if that's true he will win by as much as a margin as he defeated Blueno to show he's stronger than Ace ever was.

I recently wonder, if BM pirates would be the protagonists of Enies Lobby arc, how would things fare?

>>162213536
>mirror world

>>162213410
>Oda could've easily made Katakuri's element something similar to resin and be done with it
Ok? He didn't want to do that. Look at it like being more similar to Magellan's paramecia fruit, instead of one of the logias.

>>162213618
CP9 members get one-shotted. Buster Call Fleet would get sunk.

>>162213618
CP9 have skipped their haki training, they'd be wiped out

>>162213345
>If Katakuri had a mochi like body, it would make more sense.
I believe that is the actual case with Katakuri and his abilities. What differentiates it as a special paramecia is, due to the nature of mochi as a substance, his physical body can be denatured and torn apart simply because mochi is sticky and can be stuck back together. In addition, he can manipulate parts of his mochi-like body to great extents, even going as far as being able to control mochi balls and drift them towards his siblings during the tea party. However, it is unlikely that he could turn things into mochi nor control already existing mochi.

So, from my understanding, the key differences with him and a logia are the lack of elemental aspects to mochi, the idea that he can't turn intangible into mochi itself, he simply is a mochi-man as Luffy is a rubber-man with all the properties of mochi without actually being made of the stuff and he can't make or control mochi that isn't a part of his own body.

>>162213536
Oda does like to introduce a ticking time bomb element in the last stages of his arcs except this time it's shown up very organically in the form of Big Mom's rampage. The Strawhats just need to get out alive from an island where everyone wants them dead and it's been great so far

>>162213414
That's how I wanted to see it but I don't know how that works when he tanks bullets and explosions that push pieces of his body off of him and he can reform.

If his body simply had mochi properties, him getting pieces of his mochi head shot off should permanently remove that part of his body. That wasn't mochi he created, that was part of his mochi like body and it was removed. Unless he was actually mochi, how does he reform the parts of his body that are blown off?

>>162210527
If the fight is gonna be them throwing mimicking attack at each other and end with Katakuri using his super-mochi form than it can just as well be completely off-screen for me.

>>162213727
Why doesn't Luffy just eat this dude if he's literally food?

>>162213618
Cracker could literally solo by himself

>>162211495
>I'm convinced some of you have your own warped ways on how this arc should go if not the entire series and then cry foul when things don't play out the way you want.
That's exactly right .

>>162213641
Magellan can't transform into is element, supposedly Katakuri can transform into his element but can't create it, but Oda ain't showing it properly, it completely looks like a logia devil fruit

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In exactly what way is this fruit not a logia?

>>162213742
How does Buggy reform himself after being cut up? Just werkz. Nigga's not logia, so you just have to fit the rest of your understanding around that guaranteed fact.

>>162213414
>>162213727

So are the pieces of his body that are getting blown off being reattatched by him? If you were to shoot him in the head, take the part that got blown off and eat it, would part of his head be gone forever?

I think that's the part I'm struggling with in >>162213742
I can accept every thing he has done as a paramecia except for his body falling apart. Did I misunderstand that he's not actually using new mochi to replace the pieces of his body, but just reattaching the same parts?

>>162213783
He would get his DF and die

>>162213812
haki doesn't work on him

Post crew rankings this arc
>Brook
>Nami
>Pedro
>Luffy
>Jinbei
>Carrot
>Sanji
>Chopper

>>162213783
He's not literally mochi, he's just like Luffy in that his body has all the properties of mochi. It's unclear if he has the taste of mochi too. Luffy would also die.

>>162213837
Not true, not how it works. Big Mom is a mystery but if she actually did get the soul fruit after killing Caramel, it's because she ate a nearby fruit too.

>>162213817
I believe it could work, I just didn't really think about it in that way. I saw it as him using new mochi to fill in the gaps instead of picking up the pieces of himself that fell off and reattaching them.

That seems really weak though if he's like Buggy where all you need to do is grab one of his body parts and tie it up. Will he have a similar cover story where he has to find his mochi body and put himself back together?

>>162213858
Haki works on Paramecia's.

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>>162213483

Robin

>worked for a gangster
>bombed people like a terrorist
>helped her boss cause a blood civil war
>did all of this for 'muh relics'
>returned the kindness of Luffy by betraying him in Water 7.

Nami
>golddigger traitor
>stabbed her village, sister and mother in the back
>probably a fishstick burner
>slut

Franky
>Thug
>Beat the ever living shit out of Usopp
>Stole all the Strawhat's treasure to buy wood...
>Pervert probably a trapfag too.

Sanji
>French

Chopper
>Poisoned his own father to satiate his 'doctor pride'
>Turns into a monster and hurts his friends

Usopp
>Notorious liar
>Has on multiple occasions ran away from people in need of his help
>lied to a sick girl to get off

Zoro
>Autistic as fuck
>Only cares about swords
>Lead his best friend to her death over some stupid duel.
>Has on multiple occasions threatened to leave the crew if Luffy isn't strong enough to satisfy him.

Brook
>Used the strawhats to break his curse
>Has a Jewfro and is Austrian (absolutely can't be trusted).
>Lied to a whale.

Luffy
>Mentally retarded and has nearly killed his crewmates on multiple occasions
>inadvertently caused the death of his brother by going into a career as a pirate instead of a marine like his Gramps wanted.
>Woman beater.

I don't see the problem anon, she'd fit right in.

At this point there's such a vague line between what's paramecia and logia that I wonder if it's even worth classifying logia as its own category of fruit.

It feels more like a special type of paramecias like how zoans have various sub-classes.

>>162213858
Not true. Luffy picked him up with haki and carried him. >>162213727 >>162213414
is why he isn't a logia

>>162210455
nice chapter
luffy is slowly starting to mature for real

>>162212227
this. i expected that too

>>162213939
last chapter luffy blew off pieces of him and was using haki

>>162213487
I'm sure Katakuri could say "Mochi age" and recreate that entire scene but with Mochi.

>>162213908
>trapfag Franky
kek'd

>>162213835
>Did I misunderstand that he's not actually using new mochi to replace the pieces of his body, but just reattaching the same parts?
He can likely do both, which again feeds into that special aspect of his power and the unique properties of mochi. He can clearly produce extra of the stuff, so he can reinforce any parts of him that are lost in combat. It likely takes stamina to produce it, but it allows him to tank hits with little effort or need to guard. However, it's likely he can also reattach pieces of himself that are still around and they'd fill in any gaps.

>>162213618
>Lucci almost twice as strong as Kaku
>Lucci btfo by one giant pistol and same speed/power than Gear 2
Cracker could just clap like 12 biscuit knights and fuck all of Enies Lobby and Cp9.

>>162213908
Only Nami and Robin were working for enemies prior to joining, and they regularly betrayed them. Robin literally tried to give the Strawhats an Eternal Pose to Alabasta so they could skip Little Garden and helped Igaram fake his death so he could warn the King about Croc.

>>162213860
>Brook
>Nami
>Luffy
>Carrot
>Jinbe
>Chopper
>Sanji

>>162210811
A fight has started, so it will be on hold every week we get a chapter focused solely on Luffy vs. Dogtooth.

Pretty sure Katakuri is logia. The properties of mochi make it more rigid than most logia tend to be. Akainu's logia works very similarly

>>162213880
No

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>>162213989

>falling for an obvious shitpost

I hope you aren't actually this dense.

>>162214005
Word of God, he's Paramecia

>>162213860
>Brook
>Nami
>Pedro
>Jinbei
>Sanji
>Luffy
>Chopper
>Carrot

>>162213972
haki doesn't neutralize a df. It allows you to strike a users real body. Katakuri can still reattach parts of his body if they are blown off with haki.

>>162213978
He hasn't shown anything close to that capability. At best he's a more skilled Mr. 3 (who made a wedding cake).

>>162214059

I'd put Chopper under Carrot. At least Carrot beat that rabbit. What has Chopper done besides look hideous in his Kung-Fu mode?

>Mr. 3 been around for 15 years
>anon is confused about Katakuri
Just wow.

>>162214003
>Dogtooth

>>162214046
Was it confirmed in an SBS?

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Any Katakurifags here?
I want to kick your asses.

>>162213618
Big Mom could easily destroy the entire Enies Lobby island just by simply walking.

>>162213984
I want to ask what would happen if you took out his heart that holds the properties of mochi, but Doflamingo could create string organs so it's really hard to find some sort of area that shows the difference between a part of the body that can be like your substance and a part that can actually be the substance.

What I was thinking is that Katakuri can lose his mochi like arm, and make a new one that is literally just mochi, but if he loses his lungs or something, while he could have reattached his real lungs as a mochi human, he can't make new lungs out of mochi and just use them. But again, Doflamingo kind of fucked with that line of reasoning.

>>162214176
>falls into the bottomless ocean pit along with ennies Lobby

>>162214189
That's because Doflamingo, like Katakuri, is an Awakened DF user

>>162214103
my point was that he can create mochi just like Aokiji can create ice. Aokiji turning water into ice is unique to ice being able to freeze water not to logias controlling an element.

>>162214167
Why, for having good taste?

>>162214122
The plan that Carrot executed was Chopper's idea. He's also the one that told everyone about what they would do on the mirror world and the one that sacrificed himself for Nami to get Luffy. Carrot carried that fight harder, but it wasn't her thinking that got them there.

>>162214189
Doflamingo didn't create new working organs he stitched the shredded ones back together.
Also he still lost.

>>162214158
What kind of question is this? It's said in the manga.

>>162214230

Oh true, I was being an actionfag and only thinking about usefulness in a fight.

>>162214260
Guess I'm a Spee D. Reader cuz I must have missed that

>>162214226
Aokiji doesn't create ice he forms it from moisture in the air, and is made of it.
Katakuri is much more like Mr. 3.

Katakuri's fruit is like Hina's.

>>162214132
Mr. 3 was never shown being cut, smashed, or having his body mangled in anyway and recovering through the use of wax. He, like Magellan, used his power as armor, not as a way of recovering.

Mr. 3 clearly had a candle body, but it was never utilized in any meaningful way. Katakuri is having parts of his body blown off and having it reform.

>>162214176
Zeus will easily carry her off.

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What would his awakening look like?

>>162210593
this is annoying.

>make a logia
>call it a paramecia

>>162214378
he turns into a castle :^)

>>162214348
Mr. 3 was nowhere near as skilled as Katakuri.

>>162214189
I think your overanalysing One Piece abilities. For all intents and purposes every part of Katakuri, including his organs, are likely of a mochi-like property. As such, they could feasibly be entirely blown apart and if he had enough stamina to put himself back together again he could do so with no lasting damage.

What the likely means is that you have to wear him down enough so that he can't replace his mochi body any longer due to exhaustion. Even then it's likely he could have all his limbs cut off and still be alive, but that's more due to how powers in One Piece work rather than anything logical.

In Doflamingo's case, he was repairing his organs rather than replacing them, he could just do it on such a minute scale that even his heavily injured organs would eventually heal. If you just took out his liver or something similar he likely wouldn't be able to just create a new one that actually functioned properly.

>>162214283
Jinbei said it; the first translation had him as logia, not sure if he was written as a logia in the magazine too. Anyway, it's corrected in the volume and it's definitely a paramecia.

Who will join the strawhats? Jinbe or Carrot?
Maybe both? or maybe Caesar?

>>162214412
but being a castle is his default df power

>>162214348
Buggy isn't a Logia though.

>>162214408
You using a trip and that disgusting star emoji are more annoying.

>>162214241
>Doflamingo didn't create new working organs he stitched the shredded ones back together.
I recall him doing both but I'm probably wrong. I had remembered reading the stitching as emergency treatment and that he was making new organs to replace the damaged one.
>>162214220
awakening a paramecia allows you to turn your surroundings into your power. Nothing about making organs out of string would require what we have seen of awakened fruits so far.

>>162214435
Katakuri

>>162214496
>awakening a paramecia allows you to turn your surroundings into your power.
We know that Doflamingo was able to do that after awakening, but we don't know that that's all it does. Pretty much everything about Awakened users is still a mystery

>>162214496
It seemed like that so you are just slightly misremembering. He just stitched them back together and stated that he wasn't actually healed.

>>162213908
Most of those points are fucking retarded, the only crew members who ever came close to being "bad" people are Robin and Franky. Then again scrap fucking Franky, he was nothing more than a small scale hoodlum. Monet literally poisoned small fucking children which resulted in reducing their remaining lifespan to almost nothing. She was straight up fucking evil and didn't give a shit as long as her actions would please Doffy. Her sister was a total psycho too, everything fit really. She really deserved her fate

>>162214459
>>162214419
Yes but the poster said Mr. 3. I never claimed Katakuri wasn't a paramecia only that Mr .3 did not show any of what Katakuri is capable of though which makes
>>162214132
irrelevant

>>162213996
why are you guys putting nami so high?
I cant remember her doing anything that crazy?

>>162213024
>still holding
This is why no one likes you.

>>162211099
Jinbefags getting desperate
Kek

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>>162214551

>>162210455
someone give luffy a straw so he can have some frappocino

>>162214412
didn't he turn into a castle mecha to buy time when big meme lost her shit? taking jobflamingo's word at face value he can turn shit around him into his castle so maybe he can move his troops like that. or turn shit around him into weapons like that dining scene in zou

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>People thought this pathetic jobber was going to be nakama

HAHAHAHA

>>162214422
>think your overanalysing One Piece abilities. For all intents and purposes every part of Katakuri, including his organs, are likely of a mochi-like property. As such, they could feasibly be entirely blown apart and if he had enough stamina to put himself back together again he could do so with no lasting damage.
That's how I defined his powers though. That's what I'm saying he can do.

My question if you read the reply chain (or even the post you replied to) is if he needs the mochi part of his body that was blown off, or if he could create mochi and use that as a replacement. My understanding was that he required the part of his body that was blown off in the same way Buggy needs to reattach all of his body parts.

>>162213984
claimed he could do both. So I responded by asking if his organs could be replaced by mochi, which I felt wasn't the case.

Pero might be alive but isn't it extremely likely that Big Mom is just going to turn around and eat him alive? He won't even be able to defend himself.

>>162214606
No one thought Katakuri would join the crew. He is about to be a literal jobber for Luffy though.

>>162210609
is this the first time Oda has drawn nami's nipple?

>>162214536
Yes, I understand that. Which is why I went on to type
>Nothing about making organs out of string would require what we have seen of awakened fruits so far.
My point was that all he is doing is making something out of string, something which he should be capable of doing without awakening. Why would awakening be needed?

>>162211099
>Jinbe is treated as a non-straw hat for straw hat color spreads
>but not for the non-straw hat ones
At this rate he won't get a single one for the whole 20th anniversary.

>>162214606
>I'LL AVENGE YOU PEDRO
>gets BTFO instantly
gotta admit I laughed at this panel

>>162213151
See>>162210525
BTFO

>>162214606
B-but she's a female. Confirms shes new nakama! Crew dynamics!

>>162214579
I hope you guys hang yourselfes after this arc when it's made official. I mean if you aren't literally mentally disabled it can't get more official than Oda literally telling us with the coverpage from the last character pool.

>>162214731
Sperg-tastic post, anon!

>>162214670
Wat
She's obvious wearing some kind of a weird bra with the same colors as her pants

>>162214731
I hate that you're right but I hate Oda for it even more.

>>162214614
>or if he could create mochi and use that as a replacement.
If his entire body has mochi like qualities, including his organs, then he likely can. The point about over analysing here is that, even if it would make sense for him to suffer from the loss of an organ, even if he could feasibly replace it, he doesn't do so because it's a magical power in a manga. It simply doesn't work in a straightforward manner, he has a mochi like body so he can keep producing, replacing and reattaching it until he runs out of energy to do so. There's no reason to think he can't do both.

Katakuri is the best thing that happened to this arc. Big Meme is such a jobber.

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>>162213908
>lied to a whale
dunno why but this made me kek like mad

>Everyone is distraught over Pedro's sacrifice, Luffy shouts at Nami and gets their asses in gear to use a coup de burst
>While everyone was in a panic over Katakuri/BM/Pero surviving Luffy got them rallied again and managed to pin down Katakuri
>Sees them off with a promise to return and drags the biggest threat with him into the mirror world

Goddamn I loved Luffy this chapter, Pedro's sacrifice made him get serious and show why he's the captain, no bullshit gags or jokes, just taking care of business.

>>162214582
>Quagmire not being Sanji
disappointing

>>162210476
So by who and how will luffy be saved this time?

>>162214757
>Rebecca is nakama!

>>162214639
She wants cake, not jaguar.

>>162214805
That one never made sense. Shirahoshi, on the other hand.

>>162214579
You fags ever ask yourself why a character who was introduced 350+chapters ago still hasn't officially joined the fucking crew?
Kek
Your tears will be divine.

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>>162210541
post young BM I needa wank me prod

>>162213908
Brook is new world order confirmed

>>162214803
He will awaken his fruit (gear 6 monkey god) and BTFO Katakuri. He smashed that mirror so that he couldn't escape.

>>162214731
That's funny because you guys believe people see in her a fufutre nakama only because she's a girl when in fact it's you guys who refuse to see why she's a perfect candidate only because she's a girl.

It's the story of 4chan, a bunch of retard who became as autistic as the people they hate but in reverse.

>>162214838
No, Shirahoshi theories are lacking. But Ms Valentine however..

>>162214803
I legit think he can beat Katakuri. Am I to optimistic here? I mean after all he somehow has to beat a few fucking Yonko too in the next 600 or so chapters, he needs to step up his game one time or another

>>162214805
Unlike her Carrot actually blends in with the crew, has a goal she can accomplish by joining the SHs, loves adventure, and can hold her own in most fights. Her jobbing to Katakuri doesn't change that.

>>162214903
Momo is the last member

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Finally, another fight with the potential to be on par with Luffy vs Lucci
Obviously this one won't be as emotional, as the fight doesn't have as much weight surrounding it, but I imagine they'll both be fighting to their most extreme capabilities
Will we finally see Monkey God in it's true form?

>Luffy promises himself after the timeskip that he wouldn't let any of his friends die
>lets Pedro die and leaves him
???

>>162214928
>Am I to optimistic here
Not really. Luffy can fight properly if there's a real threat going on.

>>162214953
What last member? It's not like only one more can join.

>>162214940
And unlike carrot, momonosukes goals facilitate the ending of the series.

>>162214975
Pedro wasn't a nakama just some dude that randomly tagged along

>>162211534
>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/157944707/

I own Boa portrait of pirates and you don't know how tempting that is, anon

>>162214940
carrot blends in with the crew because she has no unique characteristics, just a mix of luffy and chopper personality quirks

same with pedro who is basically a mix of sanji and zoro

>>162214988
Carrot and Wanda are the ambassadors of Zou. They stay on Wano after Kaido kills zuni. Sorry for spoilers.

>>162214975
What do you want him to do? Pedro is probably mashed-potatoes and they are still in danger. He did what he had to do to save his crewmates. Why would he let Pedro's sacrifice go to waste?

>>162215018
>Boa

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>>162210455
>a flashback within a flashback

>>162215025
I agree with you I think they're boring as fuck too but sadly I don't think my personal preferences matter in Oda's grand nakama keikakku.

>>162214940
>has a goal she can accomplish by joining the SHs
and what would that be again? Having an adventure?
>loves adventure
pretty much everyone in this story does
>can hold her own in most fights
So could Rebecca, she pretty much aced the arena before all those big shots appeared and even did well while all of those obviously stronger guys were there.

Also Carrot doesn't have a tragic backstory which is obviously the only real requirement needed to get into the main crew. Face it your furry fetish won't remain in the crew forever, she'll probably fuck off after wano, hopefully sooner.

>>162215047
What the fuck are you even talking about. They go to war with Kaido the very next arc. And no, Carrot is just a simple fighter and Pedro just told her to follow the strawhats before blowing himself up.

Luffy this chapter reminded me if Ichigo somehow.

>>162214928
>Am I to optimistic here?
Probably; Luffy struggled a lot with Cracker and Katakuri has done nothing but impress whenever he's on screen, he's likely stronger than Cracker even at full strength. He's likely to be just a bit too much for Luffy at this point in time, given they're both going to be going all out, no underestimation from Katakuri that could allow Luffy an advantage to exploit. It would expect it to be close though, and there's every chance Oda may just let him have the win because he's the MC and has to take on bigger threats soon. The reason I'm not so sure that will be the case though is due to him likely having a lot of help in taking out the Yonko, particularly Kaido.

>>162214764
> a magical power in a manga.
I want to just nip this part of your argument out before moving on. This is a discussion board, at the end of the day, I just want to read more OP. I don't particularly care exactly how Katakuri's power's work, I just like theorizing and hearing how other people interpret it because that is the purpose of these threads and it's better to have actual discussion rather than meme/hack/shipper shitposting. To leave everything at "it's a manga don't have to explain shit" means these threads should just be deleted. Oda puts just enough effort into explaining shit that we can discuss how exactly his power works and have some kind of expectation that it'll actually follow some kind of rules.

>There's no reason to think he can't do both.

But the difference being claimed is that he is not mochi, but mochi like, right? How does mochi he produces become part of his body unless he is just straight up mochi. If he's like Buggy in the sense that he can re attach parts of his body, and like Galdino in that he can create mochi and use it for several purposes, that follows. If he can create mochi and it works as body parts unlike shit like Aokiji where he clearly has no leg anymore and is just using ice, that's where I don't follow.

Oda clearly set a precedent on this.