WSJ TOC #42

>>162205637
Pure ranking

01 Neverland c.048
02 Dr. Stone c.020
03 Robot c.018
04 Black Clover c.118
05 Kimetsu c.071
06 Bokuben c.024
07 Saiki c.252
08 Hinomaru c.154
09 Yuna c.072
10 Soma c.224
11 No. 01 c.038
12 Haikyu c.263
13 Gintama c.644
14 Shudan c.007
15 Marie c.021
16 Cross Account c.006

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Why don't you post the cover for #42?

>>162205660
Bless bokuben. /lit/ best girl

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This week's TOC

And this week's cover is here >>162204921

>>162205660
>02 Dr. Stone c.020
Stone Haters begging for mercy at this point.

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Daily reminder that his awakening will bring back Ace to life

>>162205660
>16 Cross Account c.006
Nice.

>>162205637
Average ranking of last 8 weeks

01 One Piece 01.96
02 Dr. Stone 02.11
03 Neverland 03.01
04 Kimetsu 03.58
05 Black Clover 04.29
06 Hero Academia 04.98
07 Robot 05.50
08 Saiki 05.96
09 Bokuben 06.15
10 Soma 07.34
11 Hinomaru 07.65
12 Haikyu 08.25
13 Yuna 08.56
14 Hunter 08.93
15 Gintama 10.20
16 No. 01 11.42
17 Shudan 12.01
18 Cross Account 13.37
19 Marie 14.15

>>162205637
>#43:
>Shokugeki no Souma (Cover & Lead Color Page)
>Chou Kasoku Ningen Leo (Color Page, Oneshot, GFC #4)
actually should be

Issue 43:
Cover, Lead CP: Shokugeki no Souma
CP: Saiki Kusuo no Sainan, Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai, Golden Future Cup Entry #4: Chou Kasoku Ningen Leo (by Matsubara Masaru)

The push is real

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>>162205812
>01 One Piece 01.96
>02 Dr. Stone 02.11

>>162205660
Where is BnHa or did we not get a chapter that week?

>Bokuben's consistently good standings
Feels good man

>>162205875
Stone's closing in on the top spot...

>>162205899
Color page, isn't ranked.

>>162205715

>extremely rare death of a major character
>retconned because fans liked him lol

I don't think that Oda would cheapen his series that way.

>>162205899
Color Page this week

Therefore unranked

I know low rankings don't mean much for established series that sell well, but seeing Haikyuu miss not even just the top 5, but the top 10 kind of sucks.

>>162205660
>11 No. 01 c.038
It's officially off the chopping block. Maybe next round.

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>>162205660
>14 Shudan c.007
Yamero

>>162205812
>Dr. Stone second place
And they spent so much time telling boichi his art isn't suited for jump. Well how 'bout that.

>08 Saiki 05.96
I really thought it will be hard to keep the level of gags steady for this long. So glad to see i was utterly wrong.

>>162205943
>>162206038
Oh, thank you.

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>>162206054
Saiki is a real treasure I am glad it gets some more recognition around here.

>>162205660
>14 Shudan c.007
>15 Marie c.021
>16 Cross Account c.006
With Togashi on hiatus again, I think Shudan's survival is pretty likely now. Hunter empties out a space and spares one cancellation

Jump has 2 series that on average perform worse than it. And they don't usually cancel more than 3 at a time.

>>162205927
>lets ignore how oda pimps chopper out like a whore

>>162206078
Do they really have a reason to axe anything as of now? They seem to have a comfortable selection going.

>>162205660
>03 Robot c.018
>12 Haikyu c.263

>>162205812
>07 Robot 05.50
>12 Haikyu 08.25

The Haikyu-killer has finally come

here's me again, hoping they finally go and kill off Cross Account

>>162206184
It's their routine. The do this every 2-3 months.
Besides, they have 3 flops at the moment. 4 if you count Spring Weapon. They should clean house.

>>162206205
Haikyuu was ranking poorly prior to Robot, though. Not sure why Japan hasn't been enjoying this arc. I think it's really good.

>>162206230
Bokuben isn't too far from the axe right now either.

>>162206087

Explain how you not liking a mascot character is comparable to making it so that no one will ever take a character death seriously again.

>>162206219
Will happen. Probably after Golden Future Cup, running those one-shots every week essentially filled up the spot Hunter left.

But it's a temporary stopgap, so once that finishes, they need a new series, probably several of them. Which then is time to open up some other slots in the magazine.

>>162206268
It averages a little beneath 6th place. And it graduated from the 50k club in its second volume. So both sales and rankings are good to decent

>>162205662
>neo-monster trio on the cover again

>>162206230
They are probably probably waiting for Gintama to end before making any real moves I think

>>162205927
>retconned because fans liked him lol
guess you got me there

pell, pagaya, literally all the g5 fodder, oda seems to only fake us out on useless side characters for some unfathomable reason.

>>162205660
>11 No. 01 c.038

The unkillable manga.

>>162206268
Jump's standards are very low right now.
Hinomaru just got a part 2, and its sales and rankings are worse than Bokuben's.
So I'm not worried.

>>162206357
That's what we said about Samon. These lucky bastards always crap out sometime

Or they become Hinomaru

>>162206259
Generally speaking the current arc is disjointed and its presentation is a mess. None of the opponents are very interesting.

It's still a merchandise monster though.

>>162206374
That's part of the japanese government's plan. They force Shueisha to keep Zumo so that sumo can become popular again and they can get more japanese Yokozunas who will BTFO all the mongolian ones.

>>162206374
>>162206406
I think you guys are missing one important detail about Zumou, it's a sumo manga. Knowing how nationalistic Japan is, the editors probably take pride that they're running a sumo manga even in the face of complete disinterest from their readers. Plus it's run for so long now, that any anime would have a huge amount of content to adapt already.

>>162206433
>complete disinterest from their readers
It ranks okay, the real problem is that its volumes can't sell, it hit the ceiling of 50k per volume 3 years ago and it hasn't grown at all since.

>>162205812
>05 Black Clover 04.29
>06 Hero Academia 04.98
presented without comment

>>162206505
I know I shouldn't reply, but you know that this'll change next week, right?

Kimetsu no Bleach anime when?

Kimetsu anime when?

>>162205907
Which chapter was that?

>>162205660
>05 Kimetsu c.071
>06 Bokuben c.024
Based

>12 Haikyu c.263
Damn, tanked hard.

>>162206598
Best girl's Fumino.

>>162206664
/lit/ saving our rankings.

>>162206345
when do you think Gintama is going to end?
earliest December 2017 and latest January 2018?

>>162206664
But anon, best girl is obviously all of them, fucking waifu wars i swear.

Thanks for the answer though.

>>162205660
>15 Marie c.021
just axe the thing already

>>162206742
All girls are great, it's just that her and sensei are a little more best.

>>162205637
>>162205660
How bad is Cross Account?

>>162206847
Self insert wish fulfillment about a faggot who is liked by some idol. Literal bottom of the barrel shit.

>>162206847
The only worse thing to grace Jump's pages this year was U19.

>>162206847
I read a chapter or two
Its alright

>>162206847
Easily worse than U19 and Poro combined.

>>162206847
by itself? its kinda average
compared to the other titles in the lineup? Its really bad because its more bland than bokuben

Neverland new volume was knocking on Souma's door, too.

>>162206847
The first chapters first several pages turned me against it permanently
Its every fucking cliche done the worst possible way

>>162206406
I miss Samon

>>162206912
>>162206884
Only plebs hated U19

>>162205660
>05 Kimetsu c.071
At least nips seem to be ok with the new pillar.

>no color page
It's been 4 months, popularity poll when?

>>162205660
>01 Neverland c.048
>02 Dr. Stone c.020
I am so proud

>>162205660
Super happy for Neverland, Kimetsu, Dr. Stone and RxL all deserve it. A new age of Jump is finally here.

>>162207397
>RxL
I was with you until this.

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>>162205660
>01 Neverland c.048
>02 Dr. Stone c.020
yes
>05 Kimetsu c.071
>06 Bokuben c.024
YES
>11 No. 01 c.038
My BOI remains
>14 Shudan c.007
I JUST WANT CUTE SOCCER PLS NO JAPS

>>162207397
>Fairy Tail golf
>deserving anything
The axe at best.

Is it true that Issue #44 will have Kubo's next series?

>>162206847
Idol that is literally Umaru falls in live with betaboy that shittalks people on the internet.
Or something.
I only ever saw the "literally Umaru" page, so I'm not sure.

>>162207489
You're so funny ahahah

>>162205637
I'm glad to see Kochikame back, if only for one chapter, Jump doesn't seem like Jump without it

>>162207745
Not as funny as a group of flaming homos playing golf and their balls touching all the time.

>>162205637
>Yakusoku no Neverland
>Dr. Stone
>Robot X Laserbeam
Last week
>The Promised Neverland
>Dr. Stone

The push is real. What's the point in taking the TOC seriously anymore?

>>162205691
I like the story but the art is a bit hard to swallow. Korean-kun needs to tone down the funny faces.

>>162207550
Wot

>>162207897
I don't know man, what other series do you think are more popular at the moment and should take those spots? OP wasn't ranked, BnH is understandably low, as those chapters weren't very liked, Gintama is doing Gintama things, Soma has been shit this arc... I don't know what's going on in Haikyuu, but I assume there is also a reason it's so low. And another two big shots in HxH and World Trigger are on hiatus...
So yeah, tell me who it is you think is actually currently more popular than those series you seem to dislike so much.

>>162208152
>what other series do you think are more popular at the moment and should take those spots?
Haikyuu, Souma, MHA, Gintama and BnH are all more popular than those series. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>162208152
>>162208152
If you see nothing wrong with Haikyuu, the second most popular manga in the magazine being ine the bottom 5 over a shitty new series like Dr. Stone you're a fucking idiot. No it does not deserve to be in the top two given how shit the chapters being ranked are, hell the Neverland chapter had virtually nothing happening but I guess TOC or right or wrong depending if you like the series or not right?

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>>162206847
I read the raws. First chapters were offensively bad but now that they dropped the whole muh normies and umaru rip-off stuff it's just your average romcom with cute girls. It's easy to read though, I use it for japanese reading practice.

>>162208220
Gintama and Soma are always mid-ranked. People hate Haikyuu and HeroAca right now.

>>162208152
That chapter of Neverland had nothing happening and Dr.Stone is still bad.
>BnH is understandably low, as those chapters weren't very liked
People liked those chapters until the TOC told them not to like them.
>Gintama is doing Gintama things
Gintama's rank has always been all over the place
> I don't know what's going on in Haikyuu, but I assume there is also a reason it's so low
No there isn't

Jesus Christ at least pretend you're not a fuking shill
>>162208302
>People hate Haikyuu and HeroAca right now.
Do you ave actual proof or are you going by what the TOC says like a jackass?

>>162208328
>Do you ave actual proof or are you going by what the TOC says like a jackass?

lmao

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>>162208302
>People hate Haikyuu and HeroAca right now.
>Mirio trended on twitter on Monday when Jump was released in Japan
Whelp

>>162208393
Rankings are from 2 months ago.

>>162208402
>They hate them now when rankings are from two months ago
You're fucking stupid

>>162208416
I'm not the one arguing the TOC is fake because I don't like the results.

>>162208449
I didn't say it was fake I was saying it was bullshit you're the jackass taking it as word of God for whatever reason

Get blasted nostalgia cucks, the young guns are here and you can't do anything about it.

I just want for World Trigger to come back.

>>162209010
Neverland is legit popular, desu. The sales are already on par with Souma.

134300　(6)│*182819│*209882│*******│*240991┃*,240,991 (*34)┃2017/07｜約束のネバーランド 4
171002　(7)│　 約束のネバーランド 5

36075　(6)│*36,075 (**6)┃2017/07｜Dr.STONE 1
50370　(7)│　 　Dr.STONE 2

>>162209109
>50370　(7)│　 　Dr.STONE 2
Wew lad

340125 *341780 My Hero Academia #15
220517 *221705 Shokugeki no Souma #26
169928 *171002 The Promised Neverland #05
*82387 **82764 Yuuna of Yuragi Manor #07
*50088 **50370 Dr.Stone #02
*33163 2359966 One Piece #86
*30494 **30736 Hinomaru Sumo #16
*22392 **22392 My Hero Academia Smash!#04
*21123 **21123 My Hero Academia Vigilante #02

How is Bokuben doing in Japan? Is it selling well.
I feel strange that Bokuben has a lot more charm than Nisekoi

What the hell happened to Haikyuu?

>>162209228
Bretty good, Neverland is kicking ass, Dr. Stone is doing really well so far. Yuuna is hanging in there and Zumou is also doing it's usual numbers, both need and deserve anime adaptations.

>>162209361
Still a crazy top selling manga and huge franchise.

>>162209361
It's past its peak.

>>162209109
>>162209180
Damn editorial pushing!

>>162209361
It's shit. Who cares.
>>162205637
>Dr. Stone second
Best Jump manga at the moment.
This nevershit editor push. They even got poor Oda to promote this shit.

>>162206987
>>162209044
Of course, getting a color page every two weeks, getting cover recommendations twice by Oda and Akimoto, and getting a special from one of Japan's most famous TV shows is easy.

Souma, on the other hand, grew by its own strength.

>>162209894
Maybe it's because Neverland is just better than Soma. Soma never got pushed by Oda or a tv show because it's kinda boring and they don't want to recommend it.

>>162209894
>Of course, getting a color page every two weeks, getting cover recommendations twice by Oda and Akimoto, and getting a special from one of Japan's most famous TV shows is easy.
So why other series don't do that if it's easy?

>>162210081
How convenient.

>>162205660
>01 Neverland c.048
>02 Dr. Stone c.020
>05 Kimetsu c.071
>06 Bokuben c.024
nice

>>162209562
>>162209894
>getting cover recommendations twice by Oda and Akimoto
The fuck. This is so low even for Jump editors.
>getting a special from one of Japan's most famous TV shows
Source on this?

>>162210138
Because they don't get all this publicity.

Shit, Neverland even became a joke at first, because its initial print was 120k, but only sold 50k in the first week. And then Jump started to push and voilá!

Even AssClass and Academia didn't get so many color pages in the beginning. And these titles sold out their first copies.

>>162210169
>Source on this?
I don't have the link, but it's a program called Ame Talk. Dr. Stone was also mentioned.

>>162210169
Actually it was only a small mention and not a real special. That guy is overexaggerating. Dr. Stone got a small shout out too in the same episode. They were just standing in a book shop and were like: "I like this manga and this one too.." I don't believe that this had such a big success as this guy makes it out to be.
Kingdom got real special with a whole episode dedicated to Kingdom. That's what really boosts sales.

>>162205637
>>162205660
>02 Dr. Stone c.020
Is it actually good? I read the first 3 chapters and it felt really stupid. Maybe I'll try and give it another go again.

>>162205660
Neverland has been shit ever since they left the farm

>>162210227
I don't get it. Why would shueisha shill Neverland this hard?

>>162210275
Depends on what you like. Dr. Stone is a comedy manga with bullshit science against super powered humans. Plus 2 of the 3 main characters were scrapped after 10 chapters.

>>162210227
>but only sold 50k in the first week
50k is amazing for a new manga, are you high?

>>162210319
Did they actually get written out permanently? Because I don't see why they existed in the first place when this new group is much better. I worry they will come back again.

>hunterxhunter
>hiatus

>>162210353
Since their disappearance they haven't been mentioned. I think they are gone for good.

>>162210377
>Since their disappearance they haven't been mentioned
Why are you lying?

>>162210319
I normally like comedies, but I was really put of when that 'primate' dude one shot a fucking lion.

>>162210377
>Since their disappearance they haven't been mentioned.
They've been mentioned like two chapters ago. Gen confirmed that they are doing well in Tsukasa's group.

>>162210227
>Neverland even became a joke at first, because its initial print was 120k, but only sold 50k in the first week.

That was Robot x Laserbeam. And it was impressive as fuck. It's printed 200k now.

>>162210377
I guess they will stay in Chads kingdom and the author might do a plottwist with the 2 liking Chad's ideals more than /Sci/ and betraying him

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>>162210469
I'd stay in the chad kingdom, too.

>>162210326
That's not the point. The print was 120k. In two months Neverland had not yet achieved that.
>>162210436
You just gave me another example of how the editors are pushing these new series (though in Robot's case it's understandable because it came from a famous author).

Any sales data?

>>162210520
>That's not the point. The print was 120k. In two months Neverland had not yet achieved that.
Yes and? By now the first Volume was reprinted twice, so your point is moot.

>>162210227
>Shit, Neverland even became a joke at first, because its initial print was 120k, but only sold 50k in the first week. And then Jump started to push and voilá!
But why would they push it if it didn't sell well? What do they get from it?

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>>162210555
>By now the first Volume was reprinted twice
Do I need to repeat again why this happened?

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>>162210682
Here you go.

>>162210726
Why would it matter? You're saying they advertised it for no reason when it pulled in 50k with it's first volume selling more than like 5+ manga that were running in the magazine at that time and overall having one of the best first volume sells in that year.

WHEN did sammon the summoner end/get cancelled?

>>162210632
It's not about not selling well. 50k is a good number, but their pretensions were much higher (120k). So they increased the publicity.

>>162210773
June

>>162210802
So, nothing wrong with this?

>>162210770
Hinomaru Zumou started having great positions. In fact, it was one of the rare cases where the first chapter debuted in the first position. But the maximum publicity it got was an omake crossover with Kurobas after 2 years.

One of the biggest advertising that Neverland got was being nominated for the Manga Taisho Awards then being featured on Ame Talk
both of which Jump had no control over

It's funny that Neverland is getting better positions now with this boring arc than when the story was good.

>actually enjoying the new Neverland arc
Oh well.

>>162205660
>06 Bokuben
nice, so this is completely safe
>14 Shudan
DON'T DIE ON ME
>16 Cross Account
just how shit is this?

>>162210498
His kingdom will have a big problem with a 9:1 male - female ratio in the future

>>162210834

I guess it was to be expected. I liked the art, but the plot and it's mechanics needed work. It wasn't gonna last long. The dialogue felt completely bland and dry, even copy pasted. It didn't feel original or organic; kind of passive and shallow and unoriginal.

I even sent a survey in jump about how I felt about it and suggestions to improve in scores and more crazier to enjoy reading; since it did come off pretty bland and the main character wasn't the most popular character in their own series, let alone hate and bully on a girl cuz she's nice. I don't think that would send good messages to people where the main character is a villain made to be used as a anti hero saving the day tool and pull the "oh you have a heart" card on them.

The entire series was set to crash with limits and cheesy cliche stereotypes like that. I was kind of hoping and expecting better really. Not something gay.

>muh pushing and ads
This is normal for any series that has potential.
All this shitflinging about pushing only started with Toriko since op and dbfags were assblasted by it.

WT 164 chapters
HZ 161 chapters

Will WT return or will HZ overtake it in the number of chapters? the suspense is killing me

>>162210275
Dr. Stone got better when it shifted away from initial presumed MC (retard endurance guy) to Science Jesus and his new cavemen friends.

>>162211799
>BNHA 153 chapters
If BNHA's chapter count surpasses it WT will officially be declared dead.

>>162211920
yes.

>>162210353
I don't think they have been written out, but so far, the story isn't the slightest interested in showing how they're doing, and apart from that mention, Senku doesn't seem to think about or miss them much.

I can't help but getting the feeling Taijuu and Yuzuhira were an afterthought the writer didn't like much, but had to put there because they were more similar to the typical MC/girl duo in shonen stories, and once he had the opportunity, removed them without looking back.

>>162211920
Yeah, that would be about a year of hiatus

So fujos finally moved to Robot.

>>162205660
>05 Kimetsu c.071
Nice. Popularity poll never.

>>162210353
They guaranteed to appear again when Senkuu finally have a final confrontation with Tsukasa.

MHA is over. The CP used to be on top, now it's in the middle. Neverland and Stone are a lot better, tho.

>>162212253
>>162212289
Samefag

>>162212253
>>162212289
Say it a third time. Maybe then i will agree.

>>162212289
CPs aren't ranked retard

>>162212289
CPs arent ranked and all this does is prove that editoral manipulation is real. FUCKING HAIKYUU IS IN THE BOTTOM 5.

>>162212350
I know. But what I mean is that in the "old days", although they are not ranked, the MHA CPs were always placed on top,

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>>162212479
This and your last post make me realize that you had no idea how ToC work nor do you have any clue what"Kochikame" actually is because if you're trying convince anyone that BnHA is struggling because it's behind one of the grandfathers of WSJ for a special chapter than you're not fooling anyone.

>>162205812
>05 Black Clover 04.29
The next naruto

>>162212199
It was expected.

>>162211920
Not with the immense fujo audience still keeping it alive.

>>162213890
Fujos must be /a/'s equivalent to jews

>>162212933
You noticed that a fucking one-shot is above MHA, right? MHA is on page 255. 255!

>>162214155
the boogeyman who actually controls a lot less than people like to pretend they do?

>>162214286
Why are we getting so many retards who don't know how the TOC works?

>>162214766
My friend, understand one thing: just because CPs are not ranked, it does not mean that its position does not matter. WSJ is an extremely cheap magazine with 500 pages. Not everyone has the patience to read everything at once. Sometimes they do not even read it all. That's why stand in front is so important. And MHA always stood in front, even when it got color pages. So, I'm not saying it's weird it did not get above Kochikame, but that's weird it got below the top 10. In the old days the ranking would look like this:
#42:
One Piece (Cover & Lead Color Page)
Yakusoku no Neverland
Dr. Stone
Robot X Laserbeam
Kochikame (Color Page, Special Chapter)
Black Clover
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Boku no Hero Academia (Color Page)
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
PSI Kusuo Saiki
Hinomaru Zumou
Raven Burai (Color Page, Oneshot, GFC #3)
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Shokugeki no Souma
Spring Weapon No.1
Haikyuu!!
Gintama
Shoodan!
Harapeko no Marie
Cross Account
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

Dr.Stone latest volume sold 50k
Origin latest volume couldn't make oricon top 50

when will Boichi pull the trigger on Origin? doing 2 weekly manga must be killing him

Happy for neverland. Anime when? There's enough chapters for a 12 episode arc

Can World Trigger come back yet? Did the author actually die or something?

>Chapters Wednesday like before
Will it always be the case now?

>>162205812
I've been seeing these threads for years but I'm a fucking idiot so I'll ask. What does the numbers mean? What does "96" mean in relation to One Piece and rankings? Is having a higher number better? Is it like an "out of 100" kinda thing?

>>162218810
No, jump is going on sale Saturday this week.

>>162205660
>15 Marie c.021
Marie alredy likes Taiga, this thing won´t survive for long.
Which is a shame since I really liked Marie

>>162218334
>Anime when
Black Clover got it's anime around 90 chapters in-ish and Neverland sells more at it's 5th volume than BC's recent volumes, i'd probably expect it earlier than when BC got it's announcement. Say when did Hero Academia get its anime announcement again? I reckon Neverland's will be around a similar chapter count as Hero did when the anime was announced

>>162217022
How is it possible to draw two weekly manga at once?

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>>162215597
>it does not mean that its position does not matter.
It doesn't matter since CP's aren't weighted this has been a common fact since forever
>And MHA always stood in front, even when it got color pages
No it didn't.

>>162219193
Boichi is a turboautist and although stone is released 4 times a month, Origin is released 3 times a month and sometimes "just" two times. Still he's drawing at the very least 6 chapters every single month which is like 120 pages.

>>162219028
It means for the past 8 weeks, One Piece's average ranking is 1.96, or in more practical terms, it's usually in second place.

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>>162219505
Oh. Ohhh. For some fucking retarded reason I didn't see the numbers as a decimal number. I thought the 1 related to how they were numbered. I'm fucking stupid. Sorry, and thank you.

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>>162207119
Unironically this.
U19 was going to be the wildest ride of the century, but it was just too redpilled for /a/ and the nips too handle.

>>162208268
Post more

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>Neverland, Dr. Stone and Robo going strong

>>162219289
With Neverland's sales should we expect an anime announcement at chapter 65-80?

>>162210632
They advertise it and then get sales, it's not that hard of a concept

>>162210682
All I know about him is his super move in that Jump game

I'm appalled at you guys defending RxL at all.
What the fuck?

>>162219978
You do realize its sheeple right? If you look at Dr. Stone threads they're practically dead and RxL doesn't get threads here at all. So good job for shilling Jump

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>>162219978
The main character is /ourguy/

>>162205660
>04 Black Clover c.118
Why though, I've read 2 volumes and the story is literally a generic mix of other manga

>>162219347
Geez, no one is talking about the "weekly competition", "rank wars", but about the level of importance of the series. it does not matter if the CP is neutral, if the title is important it will be placed near the top and not near the bottom.
>No it didn't.
The last time it received a CP:

Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san (Lead CP, 1st Anniversary)
The Promised Neverland
One Piece
Boruto (Cover, CP)
Kimetsu no Yaiba
My Hero Academia (CP)
Robot x Laserbeam
Black Clover
Shokugeki no Soma
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K

See the gap between Boruto and MHA? Both were relevant, both are at the top, despite the CPs being neutral in the rankings.

>>162219824
I agree. Of course it was rough as the first series go, but Kimura has a unique style both art and storytelling wise. If he can use this failure as a learning experience, he can get himself a hit in the coming years.

>>162220124
You answered your own question

>>162219193
capable of drawing very fast, sticking to schedule, great assistants, no life

>>162220161
>no one is talking about the "weekly competition", "rank wars", but about the level of importance of the series.
And this is you talking out your ass.
>The last time it received a CP:
Its outside the Top 5. Thanks for proving my point you fucking idiot. Also Boruto CP last issue was at the near bottom of the TOC

>>162212289
>>162220161
>>162215597
You do realize that the oneshot is ahead of MHA not because of importance, but because of the Golden Future Cup right? Boruto's CP last week was SECOND TO LAST in the magazine, only in front of Isobee, and no one thought that it was going anywhere, so why does the location of MHA's color page matter now?
MHA isn't going anywhere, and arguing its importance based on the location of its color page means jack shit when you realize that color page location is not based on importance, nor will it ever be.

>>162219193
Easy designs, easy backgrounds, easy story and assistants.
And he only does the art for dr stone.

>>162220176
I hope he won't get discouraged and plays it more safe if he ever gets back.

>>162219824
>the fate of the scissors gut at the end
Shit was way darker that it should be. That and his style would suit him to write seinen.

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>>162220579
Safe? No way, I want him to go all guns blazing from page one. There is a method to his madness, and I revel in it.

>>162211873
Pretty much this. Senku, Kohaku, and Chrome>Whoever the fuck those last two were.

>>162209361
Weekly sports mangas suck to read weekly.

>>162219289
>My Hero Academia

Still think it was a bit too early.

>Black Clover got an anime approved before Naruto and Bleach

They're really desperate, huh?

>>162220357
>>162220399
>Also Boruto CP last issue was at the near bottom of the TOC
although I do not agree with the other anon, he is not lying about bnha, usually its color pages get a little higher, but the fact that the color page of boruto has been put underneath, something that also never happened, is another one proof that the current rankings are being manipulated.

>>162221728
At least with the yearly releases of the anime we won't have to worry about the pacing being fucked like the first season was anymore

Did you guys forget about the Dr. Stone PV? That's the best proof that the fucktards at Shueisha are manipulating things.

>>162221815
the second season was extremely superior. more episodes, more characters, more adapted chapters, more fights, more fanarts, more tv ratings (fuck you, nichigo block), more popularity. even got more boost, which is rare with sequences.

I wonder if they had planned the first season better, hero would be much bigger.

>>162220069
> tumblr
Fujoshit

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JUST

>>162222586
>25% total issues missed
Please get well soon, Ashihara ;_;

>>162222586
Is dead, right?

>>162222676
as disco music

>>162224219
So fucking dead.

>>162209361
It peaked after they defeated seijou. It's all downhill from there.

>>162222132
In an ideal world bnha s1 would be 2 cour adapting the begining untill the end of the sports festival leaving stain as a cliffhanger.
S2 would be 2 cour as well and it would pick up where season 1 left off, Deku's talk with shiggy would the mark the halfway point abd the end of the first 2 cour and the season 2 finale would finish with AM vs AFO.

It's funny how people continue to use the current arcs of Haikyuu and MHA as the reason for their low positions. Dear friends, the arcs have not started now. They have been going on for a while, and their positions up until then were very good, but then suddenly they fall, and suddenly RxL, Dr. Stone and TPN become the top three.

Don't get me wrong, I like all these series (except for RxL), but it's pretty obvious what the editors are doing.

>>162225696
Yup. Pretty obvious, the editors are giving more exposure to better series both as a way to earn more in the future for Jump and to secure consequences of the inevitable decline of bnha and haikyuu.
Does that trigger you in anyway ?

>>162226415
I don't agree with the "better", but otherwise I'm fine.

>>162225696
Good point.

>>162226415
>inevitable decline of bnha and haikyuu.
It's just that they don't need to push them anymore, they already have a big, loyal fanbase that will keep spending money on them regardless of quality, so they shill the new ones in hopes the same will happen to those.

>>162227377
This
Neverland and also DR Stone especially, still need more marketing and shilling before they can pander to newer successes and just let their fanbases carry their tankoban sales

Ok, I have a super-dumb question I still haven't figured out from lurking:
- if this is just chapter orderings from published issues, why do they come out weeks late and not early to the point of being with the leak-fueled scanlations?

Is this:
>>162205637
>>162205660
somehow not the exact same thing as:
>>162205685
just a lot later for some reason?

>>162227450
Neverland and dr stone animed by periot if they want thase bacome big hit

>>162228999
Just like Beelzebub and Twin Star Exorcist

>>162228794
>01 Neverland c.048
The c.055 of Neverland only ranked first because eight weeks ago, c.048 was the most voted. In eight weeks, if c.055 be the most voted, c.062 will ranked first again. So the pure ranking it will look like this:
>01 Neverland c.055
>02 Dr. Stone c.027
>03 Robot c.025
>04 Black Clover c.125

Got it? No, right? Sorry. I'm ESL and bad to explain.

Neverland didn't really need Shueisha's shilling. They got free shilling from Manga Taisho Awards, NicoNico manga awards and Kono Manga ga Sugoi plus AmeTalk. It got legitimately popular on its own.

>>162210682
>>162210738
Not on WSJ, his new series will start 25/9 on Jump Plus

>>162230029
>It got legitimately popular on its own.
Right, getting a CP every two weeks and having recommendations on its covers from Oda and Akimoto made no difference.

>>162230029
>It got legitimately popular on its own.
All the more reason to keep shilling

>>162230569
Manga Taisho and Ame Talk happened before the recommendation and the color page onslaught. Shueisha saw an opportunity and kept shilling

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>>162210284
This is all clearly just setting up the new arc. Be patient, anon.

>>162230792
>Manga Taisho and Ame Talk happened before the recommendation and the color page onslaught
Nope. The first volume had the Oda shilling and it was nominated for a Manga Taisho in December. Ame Talk happened in July

>>162225696
Aca's fall coincided with the Kirishima flashback. That's what people were talking about. I dunno about the other series.

>>162231157
>Aca's fall coincided with the Kirishima flashback
...and the arc was ranking well up until then once again you don't just drop 9 positions like that

>>162231157
They cant push bnha anymore when they want new big hit

>>162231291
That makes no sense

>>162231325
What about black clover the next naruto and dr stone robot neverland push

>>162205637
Dr Stone is the future of shonens, scheencap this!!

>>162209010
Séconded. It's mid sept already. Please. I just want to see Hyuse.

>>162231813
*screen

>>162222586
It hurts. Darn Ashihara !

>>162231291
I wish bnha received so much color page as neverland received.

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Jump should start shilling Kimetsu instead of that fucking soulless Neverland borefest.

>>162232345
This.

>>162232345
>>162232382
Maybe if Kimetsu had been on Manga Taisho.

For some reason Neverland got a lot of cred pretty fast.

>>162232345
Kimetsu has gotten decent promotion, and it's capitalized on what it's gotten, volume sales keep going up. It doesn't need the Toriko treatment, it's doing fine

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>>162205660
>>162205812
Dr. Stone? more like Dr. Stronk

>>162232425
Ame Talk was the main factor. The initial print was 120k, but in the first week it did not sell half of it. Lots of recommendations and color pages after, sales started to rise. And then Ame Talk happened and created this sudden boost. It's the same program responsible for turning Kingdom into a megahit.

Mango Taisho is not that important. Boku no Hero won in 2015 and had no influence on sales.

>>162232533
More like Dr. Shill

>>162232533
More like Dr. Asspulls.

>>162232533
More like Dr. Kuso
still better than neverland

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>>162232345
Too bad.

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>>162232878
Why are the faces so ugly?

>>162232911
Emma is cute, you bully.
Posuka spends too much time drawing shit for her twitter.

Wait, is World Trigger gone for good now?

>>162232967
Who knows.

>>162230997
>The first volume had the Oda shilling
Fourth volume.

>>162232639
>Boku no Hero won in 2015
It was nominated, didn't win.

>>162210326
For a WSJ series it's pretty bad.

>>162232878
Damn, the art is way too bad.

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>>162232911
>>162233720
Plebs

>>162233834
To be fair the faces in particular are really inconsistent

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>>162233720
>not appreciating Posuka

>>162232345
They're going the sophisticated route, they already got togashi to shill for it.

>>162233449
Yeah, sorry. I confused with that other one from the video interview.

Still no sales data for this week? Tried looking around but couldn't find it

>>162236241
>>162209228
http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/2017-09-13/japanese-comic-ranking-september-4-10/.121317

>>162236352
much obliged anon

>>162237846
You're such a dumb cunt, they were posted ages ago in this thread, learn how to lurk more.

1st week sales:
TPN 2 40,683
Stone 2 50,088
for comparison
MHA 2 167,531
BC 2 61,918
Now I understand why the editoral is promoting them. But still, nothing is set in stone heh. Look at BC then vs now, back then the sales looks promising but now it stagnated around 170-200

>>162238515
Neverland

Neverland volume 5 first week sales is higher than Black Clover volume 12 first 3 weeks. How sad.

>>162240263
1st week
1 38,128
2 61,918
3 43,122
4 56,951
5 60,149
6 95,452
7 78,464
8 98,616
9 59,814
10 66,723
11 107,704
12 69,741

Kinda sad desu

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>>162240565
Next big shonen by the way

>>162205637
>>162205660
I miss WT

>>162240761
It's dead anon. It's time to give up.

>>162240761
It'll be back, on the week after its one year hiatus anniversary passes.

>>162240761
So do I, I'd be happy even just seeing the next match for Osamu's suicide plan.

>>162210738
Is there any better example of a mangaka too good for this world? Sometimes I really wonder what his feelings are toward Shueisha editorial. Like they publish his amazing but also cancel him for controversy and shit. I'm surprised he came back.

>>162228794
Jump comes out on Monday, but text leaks appear on Wednesday, and pictures on Thursday.

>>162241495
And those leaks come from actual physical copies because it's physically published before it's on-sale date obviously, so the leaks come from people who get their hands on copies not actual insiders who know anything...and technically, the on-sale version comes out on Sunday for North America but Monday for Japan due to the international date-line

>>162241846
Who carea about America

>>162240565
Does this mean they can stop shilling BBC Clover?

>>162238515
And the BC shilling will stop now.

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If anyone, probably no one, was aking why Robo is so popular and why Jump is pushing the shit out of it.

>>162243142
These are just Side characters though, do people even care about them?

What about Robo himself?

>>162220069
Robo shirtless when?

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>>162243178
>>162243216

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>>162205637
> Jimbei is a jerk
What did Oda mean by this?

>>162243142
>>162243249
Is that from KnB author? I'm really disappointed in him.

>>162240761
Same desu. I wish Ashihara would come back to life and finish this shit.

WT is dead
We now have Yakusoku no Neverland and Dr. Stone to replace it

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>>162243462
>Cyborg Ashihara returns after 20 years of hiatus to finish WT

>WT went on eternal hiatus after Niggastream scanlated one (1) chapter

What does it all mean

>>162205660
Why is Isobe Isobee Monogatari always out from this rankings? Does it have a guaranteed spot regardless?

>>162243249
I wonder if he has genuine autism

>>162243795
I actually enjoyed his autism, if only he was in a better manga

>>162243249
That's boring as fuck, you can't see his face nor his chest.

>>162243618
Yes they do that with comedies sometimes

>>162238515
TPN v2 was 3 days. Stone 2 was 6.

Someone apparently started translating Kochikame

>>162244012

Holy shit, Dr Stoners BTFO

I wonder why Jump is pushing neverland and stone so hard. All this marketing. Did Jump already gave up on Hero Academia?

>>162244012
>>162244285
Samefag

>>162244305
Hero established a loyal fanbase who buys the volumes. It doesn't need any more pushing. Plus less color and cover pages means less stress for Hori.

>>162244305
Cause they want money

>>162244305
If had to guess bnha is doing well.enough on their own and they want other big series other than OP, BNHA, HQ and BC(?).

>>162244305
Since when Bnha get a massive push like what's happening on TPN and Dr. Stop?

>>162244305
They are looking for new Naruto. Shit Academia wasn't it, so they put all their focus on those two now. Which is good because
Dr. Stone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit Academia

>>162205927
But he literally did that with Sabo to make an Ace 2.0

>>162244305
>Did Jump already gave up on Hero Academia?
You would too if you read it

This is pretty inteesting to read. Breaks some misconceptions about Jump.

https://twitter.com/kiirobon/status/907564859759493120

>>162245673
Not trying to be an asshole but what misconceptions does it break? Reading through what he translated I found literally no new information like even the timing for covers and more precise stuff was already known before.
Maybe I just missed some tweets that's totally possible. If so, sorry about that but would you mind exemplifying some of what you found interesting?

>>162245673
So stone and neverland have very good digital sales and popularity and that's why they are trusting the top TOC spaces.
Some anon feathers are going to be ruffled.

>>162245673
>But as I was saying, they actually determine TOC order by looking at digital sales, age of (male) readers and such.
Sales of what? When a manga is ranked at it's 8th chapter, the first volume isn't even out yet.

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>>162245845
>stone and neverland have very good digital sales and popularity

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>>162245673
>>162245845
>Haikyuu has higher sales than Stone and TPN combined
>its in the bottom 5
This along with Shuiesha being caught using bots to increase Dr. Stone's PV viewcount shows that we shouldn't be taking the TOC seriously anymore.

>>162246606
Haikyuu is in the middle of a pretty bad arc and the voting fujos are moving towards the incredibly terrible golf series.

>>162205662
>monster trio

>>162246654
The arc isn't bad and jumping to a even worse series doesn't make much sense.

>>162245673
>authors are told one month in advance that their series is going to be axed
>authors are given enough time to wrap up the ending

>>162246872
that sounds so wrong. I can not believe Tamura made such ending for Beelzebub then.

>One Piece finally falling off the pedestal.
Maybe it can end will dignity.

>>162245845
That doesn't mean anything, every series has digital sales these days.
Bokuben's digital release was pushed up by months due to it's success unlike those 2.

>>162246872
>one month in advance
really interesting to see that some series only lasted long enough to get one volume out
did they just call the mangaka like:
>Yeah, we hired you and all that and it's only been two chapters but we need to fire you