Vegeta > Prince of three people > Manlet > Can blow

>>162159456
But who is the best husband and father?

>>162159495
Vegeta can't make up for nearly a decade of neglect and abuse

>>162159495
Piccolo

>>162159729
He's not a husband. The victory goes to Krillin

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>>162159804
he has a concubine

>>162159456
Vegeta
>Not accustomated with earthlings' idea of family, adapted and grew fond of bulma and trunks
>Was there when his daughter was born
>Lets enemy reach perfect form because he's fair
>His hair is already super saiyan-spiky
>Was a badass world conquerer
>Rose to become stronger than his slaver
>Achieved godly Ki and SSB on his own
>Sacrified himself against boo knowing he wouldn't keep his body, faced suicide with a smile before blowing up
>Fights with his own means

Goku
>Killed his adoptive Grandpa by accident
>Lets Galaxy Emperor of Terror live because thinks he could change his way of living
>Wasn't there when either his own sons were born
>Comfortable with former enemy raising his own 4 years old son for a year
>Teleports to King Kai's planet to let Cell blow up, doesn't revive King Kai
>Prefers to stay dead to "avoid attracting threats to earth", majin boo would have happened anyway
>Gives Cell senzu bean beacuse it's Gohan fighting him, he already gave up amd thought he had done his job for the day
>Achieves SSG and God Ki thanks to others, and not his own merit
>Trains with a dead body to achieve Ssj3 because while being dead your body has more stamina to train. Trains for 7 years with an handicap
>Has never kissed his wife

If Vegeta's dad is dead, shouldn't he be the king rather than the prince?

>>162160124
>>162159456
Vegeta
>is not the protagonist

Goku
>is the protagonist

>>162160215
He should be crowned King before he refers as King of all saiyans.

It is also probable that he refers to himself as prince out of respect to his father. Vegeta knows that the Saiyan race is mostly dead, still to intimidate his opponent he proudly declares to be the Saiyan Prince, as the notion Saiyan = Strong Warrior Race is ingrained into his head

>>162159456
>Can blow up planets in muh filler
what about when we was going to blow up earth with his garlic gun

>>162160251
>implying protagonists are better/have more depth than other main characters

>>162160392
no, but protagonists aren't continuous jobbers

>>162160353
That took every ounce of power he needed. In the filler he casually destroys one with a finger beam.

>>162160437
Goku jobs to:
>Raditz
>Vegeta, as in he couldn't defeat him on his own
>Android 19
>Cell
>Kid Boo (muh dead body stamina), then needed mr.satan to talk to the earthlings to give him enough energy for the Genkidama
>Beerus
>Frost

Vegeta:
>Reekom
>Ginyu
>Freeza
>Cell
>Boo
>Beerus
>Hit

>>162160437
Goku

>Lost to Roshi in the finals
>Lost to Tien in the finals
>Was mere scapegoat in order to kill Raditz
>Lost to Vegeta in their first fight
>Needed son and manlet friend to win
>Jobbed to 19 the weakest of Gero's creations
>Inactive for the rest of the saga
>Proceeds to job only for his son to clean up
>Jobs in all his battles with Buu
>Lost to Beerus
>Lost to ring beam
>Lost to amateur cheating tactics
>Jobbed to Hit after revealing his super special awesome combo
>Jobbed constantly vs Black
>Risked the destruction of multiple universes for a "good fight."

For someone who's the main character, Goku's record ain't too hot.

>>162160622
Forgot to add
>Android 18.

>>162160467
For all we know those planets could've been puny.

>>162160645
I would count Base Goku vs Freeza too. Kkx20 and Spirit Bomb were fine jobbing on Goku's part to hype the one in a thousand years Super Saiyan form

>>162160662
and Black

>>162160741
Managed to overpower him after less than a day in the chamber, speed watcher

>>162160622
> Vegeta, as in he couldn't defeat him on his own
Vegeta had to resort to his Oozaru form to beat Goku. That's the Saiyan equivalent to Tyson biting Holyfield's ear off and is the basis behind why Vegeta wanted a rematch.

>>162160622
>sure
>He pretty much did lil manlet had to cheat so by that point it was okay for Goku to get help
>heart attack he was whiping the floor with 19 until that point
>He had this fight he only needed the Genki dama to seal buu
>Frost literally cheated

but all those people Vegeta jobed to he jobbed because he's just arrogant and bites off more than he can chew

>>162159456
Vegeta was shit ever since he was revived in Namek
He was good when he was a villain

>>162160215
Vegeta's dad was probably not thought up yet back then when Vegeta was first revealed as the Saiyan Prince

>>162160467
No you idiot he can destroy the earth with a casual Garlic Gun.

>>162160622
19 doesn't count because "muh heart attack"
You're forgetting that Goku jobs twice to Piccolo Daimao

>>162161031
>Vegeta had to resort to his Oozaru form to beat Goku
Not an argument
Goku had to resort to Kaio-ken just to keep up with him too

>>162161192
Yeah, I do kind of miss namek saga vegeta.
His reactions to most situations really brought home how dangerous and non DB like the entire thing was.
Also wish he had more of that seasoned space warrior who's seen and experienced some shit.

But he quickly because Toriyama's Tyler Durden and a fan favorite.

>>162161277
I kind of hope that we pretend that super trunks doesn't exist and the "canon" version of adult trunks ends up taking after king vegeta in size and grows a bit of a goatee.

>>162160467
No, he knew goku wasn't just going to sit there and do nothing. If he used 1 finger to blow up the planet, goku would've blocked it.

>>162161365
Kaioken has to be learned. Any Saiyan with a talk can go Oozaru as Gohan demonstrated in the same fight.

>ITT: People don't know what jobbing means again

>>162163189
* with a tail

>>162161927
Oh this has *got* to happen.

>>162159456
Widow's peaks are cool as fuck. I wouldn't mind one.

>>162159495
The one who has sacrificed himself repeatedly to make sure his kids go to sleep safely at night and the planet goes unharmed. It's hilarious how Vegetafag brush Vegeta's sins under a rug but love to scrutinize Goku's flaws under a magnifying glass.

>>162163775
Oh please, what did Goku ever sacrifice for Earth? Him willingly staying on the afterlife after the Cell arc under the excuse that his presence on Earth would bring trouble (completely unfounded at the time, of the two latest villans one was created on Earth itelf, the other was an evil galactic overlord they wouldn't have ever crossed pathis with if not for the hunt for the namekian balls - turns out the point was so that he could cheat his physical limits and train harder than he ever could as a living being).

Vegeta meanwhile has pretty much the most straightforward sacrifice possible when he self destructs in hopes he can defeat Majin Boo this way.

>>162160215
Don't you know what coronations are?

>>162159456
>manlet
both goku and vegeta are well under 6 feet.

>>162164090
Goku is 5'7 - 5'9 (depending on the source)
Vegeta is 5'5

>>162163938
>muh sacrifice
Why do vegecucks always go back to this like it accomplished something, and if getting yourself killed to stop someone is noble then Goku beat Vegeta to it a long time ago with Raditz
>b-but he knew he could be wished back
Not an argument

>>162164150
yes, so they're both under 6 feet.

>>162163938
Chiaotzu self destructed first and Goku let his worst enemy skewer him in order to save his son and the Earth itself. Selective memory you got there.

>>162164187
But Vegeta is 5'5.

>>162159456
Frieza:
>basically the strongest mortal in the universe by far after Buu and probably Dabura
>has a huge organization that genocide planets and then sells it to wealthy space jews
>he can simply force the space jews to give him money if he needs it (why would he, anyway?), but prefers to trade with them
Why? He could a galactic emperor, but chose to become some space pirate, why is that?

>>162167367
Dabura is from the Demon Realm and thus of questionable relevance to this universe's fighter rankings

>>162160124
>Wasn't there when either his own sons were born
It's not evident if he was there when Gohan was born but it's heavily implied

>Has never kissed his wife
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJS9KwKASdk

In the original Japanese there's no kiss sound, it's actually silent implying a loving kiss

>>162163566
it's a receding hairline actually, there's no such thing as huge widow's peak

>>162163938
>willingly

Goku was dead as fuck, he was already revived once by the dragon balls. He couldn't come back. That's what the Old Kai had to kill himself to revive Goku.

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>>162159456
>implying Goku isn't a manlet either, just not as bad as Vegeta

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...umm....who are you quoting? xd

>>162161031
>Vegeta had to resort to his Oozaru form to beat Goku
So? This is like saying Goku cheated when he went SS against Frieza. Are you fucking retarded?

>>162160622
Vegeta didn't really job to Recoome. He didn't job to Ginyu either because Ginyu didn't even fight him, he let himself get beat up so he could steal Vegeta's body but it failed. Goku also didn't really job to 19, Goku had his heart problems. He didn't job to Cell either, he went toe to toe with cell but didn't get curbstomped like Vegeta did. cell was winning but goku didn't job. You also forgot Android 18 for Vegeta.

>>162163189
>Any Saiyan with a talk can go Oozaru as Gohan demonstrated in the same fight.
Any saiyan cal also transform into a super saiyan, so are you going to call every fight where a saiyan transforms 'cheating'? Did Gohan cheat when he transformed against cell now? Holy fucking shit you guys are so fucking stupid.

>>162160622
>>Kid Boo (muh dead body stamina), then needed mr.satan to talk to the earthlings to give him enough energy for the Genkidama
And Vegeta to give him the plan and hold Buu.

>>162170709
>Vegeta didn't really job to Recoome.
So you don't know what jobbing means

>>162170867
>went toe to toe with recoomme, ended up losing because Recoome was stronger
Completely different from something like him getting BTFO by cell or Frieza just to prove a point.

>>162171037
>Recoome takes all 3 by himself and beats their asses taking only cosmetic damage
>instantly gets squashed by Goku
So you dont know what jobbing means and have the delusion Vegeta was doing well against Recoome

>>162171417
Watch the fight again.

>>162159495
>A reminder that Vegeta didn't even bother saving his family when Gero attacked.... in fact both were saved by Mirai Trunks!! he saved his mom and himself because his stupid mediocre father preferred fight Gero than save his family.

Now he's better husband and father... but let's not forget that! now with all that Vegebul shit in super and tumblr, people think that Vegeta is perfect as husband, father and even person, but he was mediocre in all that.

>>162169588
What happened to Bulma's feet? That looks painful.

>>162159456
It's because he was a prison... bitch

>>162159456
goku isn't royalty