I thought it was just cute mon-yuri but this show is scary, if

What happened?

>>161914718
This is a setting where antarctic reptilian overlords rule the world from the shadows and will literally swallow nonconformists, but its okay because they're doing it to protect the world from even more malevolent aliens

>>161914718
Is the human waist/horse shoulder considered a lewd body part? The middle piece of her trikini isn't actually covering anything indecent, is it?

The most recent episode showed how this was a direct consequence of World War II.

>>161914744
The centaur girl was afraid of the snake girl and was scared that if anyone found out she was scared of her she would get into trouble because being afraid of snake people is racism. And then when they went clothes shopping the sales assistant was concerned about altering clothing to fit the snake girl because she'd never done it before and if she screwed it up that would also be racist.

>>161914842
It's 100% retarded, don't try to make sense out of it.

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>>161914842
It's incredibly lewd

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The best and worst thing about it is the show having random story episodes but it can be annoying when you just one to focus on one thing and then oh here is a memory about war and stuff.

Why are there centaurs?

>>161915170
Humanoids evolved from other families and primates didn't.

Is this show a slice of life 1984 or not?

Also they mention how the government pays for all their extra-species needs a lot. Effectively they're married to big government.

>>161915205
Please give everyone your description of the show.

>>161915214
It's not a metaphor for the failure of western society. It's a)about how the japanese people annihilate their self for the state and b) the logical conclusion of what fighting racism would be. The author is not making a satire or attacking it, it's telling you how in his opinion it would be. And, in his opinion, it would be like our world, because the people, at all levels and for most part, consider it wrong, and treat it how we treat child pornography.

>>161915227
>communist
There is literally nothing that tells us this is communist.
It's also evidently not a dystopia.

>>161915274
>1984
There is no newspeak, no big brother, no doublethink.

>>161914781
The aliens actually aren't bad. Later on we learn that a brown centaur from Earth made a coalition of aliens to exterminate the "evil aliens" because they didn't embrace diversity and democracy like all other species in known universe.

>>161915324
>There is literally nothing that tells us this is communist.
Except the "Communist Democrats" winning the American elections of course.

>>161915238
The anime is cute girls doing cute things interspliced many things that are related to real world politics.

>>161915359
Apparently it could be a mistranslation.

>>161915205
Both, they want to believe that people care about them and their ideas as much as they obsess over others. Why do you think they're so obsessed with tumblr bitches, as though mentally ill teenage girls with five genders who think that they're 'kin' with fictional characters actually matter?

Without them, they're just an echo-chamber of poorly-socialized young men on the internet bleating about blacks and gays to each other. They need an enemy so they don't have to confront their own mediocrity and irrelevance.

>>161915359
yeah sure but our protagonists are from Japan
and America is even more insane in this world than in ours

>>161915372
That doesn't change the rule.

>>161915359
The show is depicting Japan, not america. Comunist democrat can me everything, ie saying you are a commie does not make a commie. Especially in America, where the worrds used in the politics are different from how the rest of the world use them.

>>161915324
>the logical conclusion of what fighting racism would be
A totalitarian society, which is not portrayed as good in the manga.

>>161915398
>mentioning themes and issues in an anime is breaking the rules

May as well remove 1/2 the threads on the board then.

>>161915469
>>mentioning themes and issues in an anime
Is not the same as what this thread is doing.

>yurifag
>anti-PC
>autist
>anti-racist
>probably a lolicon
What is the author's goal?

>>161915372
It is literally someone musing about what life would be like with animal people existing and the laws that might/would be different from now.

It is showing the DIFFERENCES between a fictional society that the author made up and the real one. Not everything is about what you think is important.

>>161915551
It's clearly a satire on our Western world.

>>161915509
he probably just likes cute girls doing cute things, like the rest of us

>>161915573
is it really satire?

>>161915573
If anything, it's a satire on /pol/'s view of the western world.

>>161915459
>not portrayed as good
It's portrayed neutrally. The author doesn't tell you how it is, it's for you to decide. The problem is, /pol/ make up things to fit their narrative.

For example, their society isn't really totalitarian, they simply decided that racism is illegal so they use the police to catch criminals. Are we totalitarians for making murder illegal?

>>161915573
Read the definition of satire.

>>161915482
You sure on that? If discussing the setting is getting to be too much for you maybe it is in your best interest to stop monitoring the thread before you start thinking in a way you are prefering to avoid right now.

>>161915573
I'm honestly envious of how self-assured you'd have to be to assume that a SOL about Japanese animal-girls is secretly about your society and your beliefs.

>>161915624
>If discussing the setting
Is not what is happening. All that is happening in between the posts discussing it as a satire of real world politics is real-world /pol/ memes.
Are you even reading the thread?

>>161915551
Im not denying its what you are saying. Those DIFFERENCES though can pose some quite interesting points is all

>>161915681
yes, but the author isn't using those points to criticize the western world

>>161915661
Sure the pepes are all over the place.

>>161915734
Strawman.
To make it clear to you:
You are allowed to discuss an anime setting like "the country is totalitarian, and everybody is suffering."
You are not allowed to discuss an anime setting like "the country is like western Europe, where everybody is suffering because of totalitarianism".
If you wish to do the latter, /pol/ is the place for you to go.

>>161915733
Corrective clinic doesn't sound like something good, same with death penalty for hate "crime".

>>161915733
Intentional critiqueing and coincidences can be a blurry line with being sosubjective. Its how you want to interpret them that matters.

>>161915764
but people aren't suffering
yeah they've lost some freedoms, but they seem to be adapting fairly well to it

>>161915807
Not the point.

>>161915786
Pretty sure that the only type of hate-crime that you can get the death-penalty for is murder.

If you want to argue about why murdering blacks isn't a crime you already have a board for it. Go back there.

>>161915807
>>>/pol/

>>161915786
"Corrective clinic" are, theoretically, what prisons should be in our world. You know, correctional facility.


>The second theory, which saw prisons as a form of rehabilitation or moral reform, was based on religious ideas that equated crime with sin, and saw prisons as a place to instruct prisoners in Christian morality, obedience and proper behavior. These later reformers believed that prisons could be constructed as humane institutions of moral instruction, and that prisoners' behavior could be "corrected" so that when they were released, they would be model members of society.

>>161915605
You do also get shot for littering in this world, which is pretty totalitarian

>>161915807
Do you think all people suffered in totalitarian or authoritarian regimes? Outside of some censorship life wasn't that different.

>>161915764
>strawman

More of an exaggeration on purpose to show how offhand comments aren't changing the thread into some sort of board breaking pol fest that you are being so sensitive to

>>161915832
Not in Centaur's Worries world.

>>161915977
>More of an exaggeration on purpose to show how offhand comments aren't changing the thread
So a moving of the goalposts?
Just before you were claiming that people were discussing the anime setting.

What is the author trying to say with this show?

>>161916009
Directly addressing what seems to be your problem.

>>161916093
Bringing up real-world politics instead of just discussing the anime, like I said in my first post?

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>>161916025
nekololis are cute and must be protected

>>161916025
That even in the darkest of timelines, cute girls still do cute things

>>161915605
Just because the series has a modicum of subtlety doesn't mean the portrayal is neutral.
Regular people are constantly afraid of the authorities, and there isn't any "racist villain" or something that would even begin to justify this level of repression.

>>161916108
There will always be at least some overlap.

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Of all the anime this season that I expected /pol/ discussions in, the cute slice of life about monster girls was pretty far down on the list.

There's Koi to Uso, which is about government assigned wives. Vatican Kiseki Chousakan, about conspiracies within, well, the Vatican. Skirt no Naka wa Kedamono Deshita which is Crossdressing: The Show. Even Symphogear this season is about a genderbending Bavarian Illuminati alchemy cult, with motherfucking Adam Weishaupt himself, trying to summon god to fight him.

Yet here we are discussing multicultural dystopias in a show about cute centaur girls. What the hell happened?

>>161915324
>>161915605
Really? Because it's pretty obvious that even the girls in some instances correcting themselves over trivialities lends credence to the idea that CnN's society is pretty overbearing and demanding in dealing with non-conforming cogs.
Just because you're not smart enough to pick up on that doesn't mean everyone that managed to is "reeeee /pol/ boogeyman!!!!"

>>161916168
And so long as people keep it to a minimum, that's fine. But again, you can't pretend that the /pol/tards whose posts were deleted now even tried to keep real-world politics out of the thread.

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>>161914718

>>161916176
Everyone knew this was going to devolve into /pol/.

It's like you didn't even read the god damn manga when it was still a fair bit popular here.

>>161915509
Are some of you guys really retarded to the point you're missing how the author actually hate PC stuff?

>>161916140
>Regular people are constantly afraid of the authorities,
No, they are afraid of breaking the law. It's not the same thing.

> and there isn't any "racist villain" or something that would even begin to justify this level of repression.
There was, and it scarred them a lot. There is no villain exactly because they do their best to fight them, which includes petty "racism" like her old teacher not believing her hair colour.

>>161916222
>they are afraid of breaking the law.
In a normal and functioning society the laws are set such that you don't need to constantly worry about breaking them.

>>161916025
Gaijins always genocide each other, glorious Nippon doesn't

>>161916180
>even the girls in some instances correcting themselves over trivialities lends credence to the idea that CnN's society is pretty overbearing and demanding in dealing with non-conforming cogs.
They don't want to break the law.
It's completely different from this show being a satire (it isn't, read the definition of satire), a dystopia (again), communist (lol americans and their silly definitions), or 1984 (people didn't even read 1984).

>>161916256
Imagine being this triggered by /pol/ some of the key themes in an anime about horsepussy elude you because you're too busy being angry at made-up Americans.
Sad.

>>161915605
>>161916256
You seriously don't know what satire means, do you?

>>161916189
This depends on how sensitive you (and the janitor) are to this to interpret it as rule breaking.

Turns out more than me.

>>161915146
haha no nip shino

>>161916316
If this surprises you, you need to lurk more. This is how /a/ rolls.

>>161916176
if you've been paying attention, this was always where we were headed
there was some debate on whether or not we'd actually cover any of it, but it's right there in the source material.

>>161916222
>which includes petty "racism" like her old teacher not believing her hair colour.

How to blow yourself out 101
This was the perfect example to sink your entire point that CnN's governing body isn't a totalitarian shitsty of thought-policing.

>>161916311
>the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
The show never use humour, irony, or ridicule to describe their fight against racism, and the "exaggerations" are all grounded.
Compare the daily depiction of society with how the guards checking the snake reacted when she was slapped.

>>161916395
>The show never use humour, irony, or ridicule to describe their fight against racism,

But they do use exaggeration quite a bit. Exaggerations in their overblown reactions.

>and the "exaggerations" are all grounded.

Oh, nevermind. Your ears are already plugged.
>tfw you're too low IQ for Centaur No-fucking-Nayami

What do people like you even enjoy? Is there an anime about fingerpainting this season?

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>>161916375
Thought-policing is about thoughts.
The teacher acted against Hime.

You fucking mong.

>>161916421
yeah she was quite clearly being bullied by that teacher

>>161916421
>being this much of a brainlet that you don't understand what thought-policing is

>>161916420
No, their reactions are not exaggerated. They are utterly and completely realistic with how the world is presented.

Again, compare the scene I mentioned with the "you can't be carried by a centaur scene".

>>161916442
>The praxis of a Thought Police is the pre-emptive control of a person, whom the police apprehended in anticipation that he or she might commit a crime.
He committed a crime, he wasn't stopped before.

>>161916467
That's called education. It's not the same thing.

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>>161916497
>That's called education.

As if you'd know what one of those is.

>>161916450
>their reactions are not exaggerated

Sure thing Hitler

>>161915884
Prisons should NEVER be considered primarily correctional facility.
Prisons exist for punishment. You don't stay in prison until your behavior is corrected, you stay until you've paid for your crime.

>>161916421
>>161916471
Thought-policing is attempt to express undue control over one's thoughts or feelings.
They reprimanded that teacher with great severity for something minor, then shipped him off to a correction facility to amend his thoughts (see: to express undue control over them).
That's a pretty on-point example of thought-policing.

>>161916600
There are actually 2 different thought systems about prisons.

But in reality, we know that prisons create criminals. You may go in for a minor offense, but then you make acquaintances with real criminals. Later you come out of prison, people don't want to hire you anymore, and you call up your new friends for illegal work. So we know that the punishment prison sucks because it just means you have more and more prisoners on your hands.
If you however manage to turn them around and give them a prospect of leading an honest life, that's when you win.

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>>161916625
Thought police is not real. Now stop thinking dangerous thoughts and go back to ogling little girls.

>>161916625
>They reprimanded that teacher with great severity for something minor
That's not thought-police, it's being harsh.
They were spying on him, or reading his mind, they acted because he was being racist towards Hime.

Again.
Thought crime is "unapproved thoughts". He wasn't punished for thinking, but for acting.

>>161916222
Her old teacher isn't even a case of "petty racism", he literally just didn't know that was her natural hair color.
It's very obvious way to show how heavy handed the authorities are and you refuse to accept it.

>>161916703
This is how thought crime is by the way, completely different from the teacher's situation.

>>161916719
All he had to do was see her mother.

>>161916714
You're missing the point entirely, it's not the act he committed, it's what happened afterwards.
He was reprimanded very harshly for something he DID, but afterwards his LITERAL THOUGHTS were subject to extensive examination with the intention of reforming them.
His """bullying""" of Hime and punishment wasn't the thought-policing. His time spent in a correctional facility design to police his thoughts was thought policing.

>>161916776
>His time spent in a correctional facility design to police his thoughts was thought policing
Well yes, because >>161915884
He did a crime and they tried to be sure it didn't happen again.

>>161916805
>this actual thought-policing is okay because he did something (incredibly petty and trivial) to deserve it
>it's not thought-policing though

You gotta go back

>>161916856
Again, thought-policing is about stopping a crime before it happens, like >>161916703
You are confusing the correctional role of prisons with thought-policing.

>>161916890
>Again, thought-policing is about stopping a crime before it happens

No it's not.

>Thought Policing - Any process of trying to question, control, or unduly influence another person's thoughts or feelings.

It's just about being overbearing with someone's thoughts. Which they were.

>>161916805
In a free society when you commit a crime, you're punished for the crime, and proportionally to the crime.
You're not imprisoned arbitrarily until the government thinks you won't commit the crime again.

>>161916918
>thought-policing
>noun
>The suppression of freedom of thought.
They are free to think.

>>161916669
Spoken like someone that only knows of the cartoonist stereotype of prison.

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>>161916961
>They are free to think.

>you said something wrong so we're gonna send you to a facility designed to make you think in a manner we deem appropriate for our society

>>>>>free to think

Come on now

>>161916995
Saying is not thinking. Acting is not thinking.

>>161916600
you're wrong but this isn't the place to have this discussion
>>161916973
I've got a brother in prison
I go see him every few months

>>161916919
Free society exists only as libertarian utopia.

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>>161917016
This ignorance is beyond my patience.
Fuck off Kyouko

>>161915206
Centaurs in series have no genetic relation to horses and all the races evolved from the same common ancestor 6 limbed primate which was most likely fucked with by snake people to create the races.

>>161917046
The whole issue with thought policing is that you are punished for not (yet) doing something.
Once you actually DO something it stops being thought policing by definition.

>>161916669
I'm all for giving people in prisons the chance to reform. But that can't be the main role of prisons.

>>161916973
I haven't even described prisons though, only statistics.

>>161915304
Only hybrids get government subsidies because they're often sickly, weak bodied, or otherwise impaired due to their muxed traits.

>>161917119
If they intentionally broke the law and you expect them to return from prison unreformed, doesn't that idea worry you? In that case a 25 year prison sentence for a murderer can be best described as the state-sanctioned delay before the second murder.

>>161916961
They are only as free to think as the authorities don't know what you're thinking.
And if they say something, THEY ARE NOT PUNISHED FOR SAYING, they are imprisoned to have their thoughts and beliefs "corrected"

>>161917351
>THEY ARE NOT PUNISHED FOR SAYING
That's a fascinating if baseless assumption.

>>161914842
Japanese think that monster girls are just human girls with some back extensions

>>161917402
While Star Trek pushed the idea that aliens are just humans with some forehead extensions.

>>161917377
He is not sentenced to prison for a crime, he is sent to a reeducation camp to be "reformed".

>>161917198
Reformation can influence the severity of the penalty. If someone is likely to murder again, sure he should stay locked up longer than someone who won't.
But again, the main factor is the severity of the crime itself. Imagine keeping someone in jail for years for littering, just because you know he will litter again.

>>161916218
Satire is above most of these plebs

>>161918523
>Imagine keeping someone in jail for years for littering, just because you know he will litter again.
But people don't go to jail for littering at all, so that comparison doesn't work.
Besides, it's much, much cheaper to higher somebody to clean the streets than to pursue, arrest, convict and detain people who throw their trash into the street.
No one is demanding that people should be released that people should be released when they say "okay, I learned my lesson", but the idea that they change their ways is a key aspect of the whole thing and if it weren't for that, you'd see a lot more death penalties being handed out. I think the entire confusion you are having is because you don't like the idea that somebody else might dictate in what direction you are developing. But as somebody else already pointed out, that already happens during your education. Children are punished (and rewarded) to set them on the right path. It's what happens all the fucking time. The human brain has subroutines especially for this purpose, to let other people influence it.
Get used to it.

>>161919496
>higher
*hire

>>161919496
>But people don't go to jail for littering at all, so that comparison doesn't work.
Doesn't matter, the point is to use a mild crime as an example. I think driving without a license can be punished with jail so use that instead.

And just because families do something, just because society does it, doesn't mean it's the government's role.

>>161920447
>doesn't mean it's the government's role.
No, it doesn't mean that, but it's still the government's role. The government runs schools and kindergartens and those have an important influence on a child's development, and not just through the knowledge that they teach.
The question is never "if" the government should try to influence the citizens. The question is "what" it should enforce, and what means are acceptable to that end.
Clockwork Orange demonstrates one way in which prisons should not work. It's dehumanizing and horrifying.
But it's not the entire spectrum of techniques available. "Talking" is one overpowered skill that, given the subject's willingness to reform, can produce extreme results.

>>161916025
That slice of life stuff can end up being best anime of the season if done right.

>>161918431
Because he committed a crime and should not commit that crime again.

>>161921361
A crime of thinking that there is no naturally red haired centaurus. So they are going to make sure he'll know in their correction facility.
God, you are stupid.

>>161920586
Alright i should have been more specific, but as i already said, reformation is not the the main role of prisons and the like, and i never said the government can't or shouldn't try to reform prisoners, but they can't keep someone who served their sentence prisoner on the condition of reform.

>>161921361
And i'm trying to explain to you why that's not how it works in our society.

>tell your student not to dye her hair red because it's against school rules
>but that's her natural hair colour
>get arrested for discrimination

Fuck this nightmare world the cute monster lesbians aren't worth it.

>>161922320
>but they can't keep someone who served their sentence prisoner on the condition of reform.
I did not claim that. In fact. I distinctly remember saying:
>No one is demanding that people should be released that people should be released when they say "okay, I learned my lesson",
That is not the point. (though I would feel it prudent to keep unrelenting mass murderers locked up. Not as a punishment, but because of what they might do when outside)
If you felt that's what we were arguing about I hope you go back and reread the whole argument.

>>161922840
I don't think we're actually arguing about anything.

>>161922320
>And i'm trying to explain to you why that's not how it works in our society.
The very idea of punishment is to reform somebody. The only kinds of punishment that does not have that as its goal is capital punishment and indefinite imprisonment. A temporary imprisonment is not about keeping a criminal temporarily from breaking the law. The very idea is silly.
By punishing the person you hope that when you release him, they will not do it again (and that through your act of punishment, you send a message to other would-be criminals).
>>161923019
Seriously, rethink your stance. Trying to shape people's attitudes is a very normal thing.

>>161923082
>The very idea of punishment is to reform somebody
Legal punishment serves to "right a wrong", it's basically sanctioned revenge.
Imagine someone dear to you is murdered. What you'll want then, isn't for the murderer to repent, it's for him to suffer at least a fraction of the pain he inflicted. If behavioral specialists proved that the murderer was never going to murder again, would that be enough for you to let him go without any consequences whatsoever?
Legal systems exist mainly to manage this basic human need for payback, that is why punishment is proportional to the crime.
If the main purpose was just to dissuade crime, all crimes should be punished by death.
If it was to reform people, every crime would result in imprisonment until the dissonant behavior was corrected.

>Trying to shape people's attitudes is a very normal thing.
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying it's not the main purpose of the penal system to do it.

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OGEHA IS TOO FUCKING CUTE HOLY SHIT WHY THIS HAS BEEN HIDDEN FROM ME FOR SO MUCH TIME
HOLY MERCIFUL SWEET MOM OF JESUS THIS IS THE ULTIMATE CUTE MY HEART IS TRANSFIGURING IN A METAPHORICAL ALLCAPS ERECTION OF PURITY THAT WILL IMPALE ALL DIMENSIONS AND MAKE THEM WALTZ A GALACTIC RONDO OF LOVE AND PEACE

>>161923555
>What you'll want then, isn't for the murderer to repent, it's for him to suffer at least a fraction of the pain he inflicted.
Human desires have through evolution turned into desires that will advance humanity. The urge to right a wrong is one good example (and it can be found among animals as well). If you don't hit somebody over the head for wronging you, they'll do it again.
Again, reformation.
>would that be enough for you to let him go without any consequences whatsoever?
Why do you keep going on about forgoing punishment when I repeatedly stated that this was not on the table?
>If the main purpose was just to dissuade crime, all crimes should be punished by death.
The main purpose of everything is always to maintain the human race. Sure, you could blow up the Earth and end all human suffering, but that would kind of defeat the purpose. A system by which all humans must die (because everybody errs at some point) is your silliest idea yet.
>every crime would result in imprisonment until the dissonant behavior was corrected.
Only if it were the only purpose, and only if we had a surefire way of ascertaining that.
>I'm saying it's not the main purpose of the penal system to do it.
Learning your lesson, as human intuition has it, means that the punishment is appropriate to the crime, so they know which things to avoid and which things to never do again under any circumstances.

>>161923841
Fuck off with your on-topic shit

So is this show actually SJWshit or not? I was already on the fence of picking it up because it's late in the season, plus
>chink animation

If it's seriously about how diversity is good, that'd be the final nail in the coffin. If it's satire about a multicultural society taken to its logical conclusion, however, I'll pick it up.

>>161924227
Watch it and find out.

>>161923985
>Why do you keep going on about forgoing punishment when I repeatedly stated that this was not on the table?
Why not?
If the purpose of punishment is reforming behavior, and someone already exhibits the desired behavior, why punish?
>Human desires have through evolution turned into desires that will advance humanity
>The main purpose of everything is always to maintain the human race
Are humans some kind of proto-hive mind?

>>161924245
>Why not?
Finish reading the post to the end.
>Are humans some kind of proto-hive mind?
No, but evolution is cruel to the unfit.

>>161924272
I did read, i just don't feel the need to greentext every sentence.
And i'm tired.

>>161924338
>I did read,
Reread the last sentence then.

>>161924239
I'm watching too much already to pick up something that might only serve to irritate me.

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>>161924227
>If it's seriously about how diversity is good,
It isn't.
>If it's satire about a multicultural society taken to its logical conclusion,
It also isn't.
Its CMGDCT, and each other, in a mostly functional very authoritarian Japan filled with /x/ tier back story.

>>161924413
Is the yuri played for jokes, or taken seriously?

>>161924098
Sorry, I just had this epiphany and grabbed the first thread with a bare minimum of context to scream eureka

>>161924522
Yes.

>>161924526
Good, that's what you're supposed to do.

If anything this one of the most original shows I've seen in a while. I stumbled into it thinking it was just a typical moe SOL with centaur people, but we've had shady government institutions, Antarcticans and centaur nazis instead.

Does she have her vagina inbetween her front legs or behind her back ones?

The old dude remembers intolerance and the horrors of being abused and killed because of some dumb silly trait that made him different from all the others.
History is something that must be remembered and learned from.
But then again, young-ins don't care, cause history is boring, and they think that they've had it all figured it out cause they ain't old people.
Only to then repeat the same mistakes of the old geezers, starting to blame and discriminate and prey upon the ones who are different in an attempt to feel better about themselves.

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>>161925164
If only Ch 0, told us the answer to that mystery.