What will 20s anime look like? Is it going to be all 3D generated?

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>>161838561
Also why did anime males become such fags?

You should post a blank image for 20s because there is a limit to how much you can cut costs before you can't actually make shows.

>>161838561
Only cute one on that chart is 80's. Compared to that I don't mind 2010's

>>161838573
Because otaku NEETs feel threatened by masculine characters.

>>161838768
Anime has been going more and more mainstream since the 2000s, meanwhile MC are more and more beta, what does it mean?

>>161838561
I sure miss 2000s artstyle.

>>161838986
It was shit.

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>>161838561
I like how the 80s is all smug like it's self aware its the best looking one.

If all anime goes 3D I would actually have serious considerations of suicide. Unless they got it so it was literally indistinguishable from traditional animation, which I figure they might be able to pull off one day.

>>161838595
whats the intention behind this image?

>>161839987
I still cant believe something with animation and art that bad is so popular

>>161838561
>20s
holy fuck we are not far away from the future are we.

>>161839987
loving those hips on aqua on the left lmao

>>161838573
The male average just keeps looking whiter.

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>>161839210
While I wouldn't want it to be all 3D, the style is definitely going places these days.

>>161838561
70's > 10's > 80's > 00's > 90's

>>161839210
Why bother claiming that you'd commit suicide if you're never going to do it anyway?

>>161841805
Un!

>>161839210

If by 2020 we haven't perfected 3D emulation of 2D I'd be very surprised. The only downside is I can see studios just recycling base models to save money so every series will have very similar character designs.

>>161841904
In terms of art style:
70's>80's>10's=00's>90's

In terms of overall quality:
90's>80's>70's>10's>00's

In future everything will probably be some combination of 3D, 2D, and live-action filtered through neural networks to make it all look like traditional 2D animation.

>>161838561
By then I will have completed my dimensional slipspace entanglement generator and successfully made anime real.

>>161842075
Upside: they could sell the 3D models as BD bonuses and then we could have MMDs with the original models.

>>161842166
my fucking fetish

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>>161838561
While we can't tell how it's gonna look on the whole, the late 2010s are already showing a new popular style with the more pastel colors, drawn outlines (usually in purple) and a bit of filtering.

Koe no Katachi, Oshiete Galko Chan, Kobayashi, Gabriel DropOut, Kuzo no Honkai,...

Basically, we are almost assuredly heading in the direction of heavier post-processing. Slightly blurrier lines and backgrounds, the parallel lines on eyes and background. That sort of thing.

>>161842085
>70s above 10s

>>161842166
They never would do that though

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>>161838561
'00s is my eternal favourite. Dunno why. '10s just looks too clean and shiny.

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>>161841904
Good taste

>>161844444
Nice digits, truly the golden age of anime.

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>>161844444
In part I say it's like how some cheeses lost their holes as production was refined and eventually so hygenic they had to manually insert dirt to get the holes back.
The other part is that the expected megapixels of the output has increased from 1/3 to 2, but paper sizes have not changed.

>>161838561
3D generated, no, but expect heavier post-processing. I feel Kyoani is one of the most influential studios currently, for that reason. I don't hate the look, but personally I'd prefer a return to simpler designs. More elegant, more suitable for movement.

The future is MMD anime like Tesagure Bukatsumono.

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>>161840090
>no, there cant possible be more to an anime than what i can see at face value

im not even trying to annoy you, but thats what you just said

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>>161838768
Are you retarded?
If anything, it's empowering and satisfying to project yourself into an alpha male character; someone you wish you were. This is part of why shows like Hokuto no Ken and GTO were so popular.

These days, writers are just lazier.

>>161838573
have you seen the average 3d japanese male?

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Anyone has a better comparison of eyes through years/decades? I have only one from KyoAni, and I must say that those from 2005, 2006 and 2007 were the most cancerous eyes in the anime history.

I could exclude LuckyStar from this.

>>161846981
>These days, writers are just lazier.

They were just as lazy back then. The super-badass that Japan copied from Hollywood action movies of the the time is just as cookie-cutter as anything else. It's not originality or effort, everyone had to have their own Top Gun lead/Shwarzeneger/... kind of guy as the MC.

>>161846981
I rather have Kanye as the MC than Goku for anime.

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>What will 20s anime look like?

>>161846981
You are just cherry picking, and you know it.
It's just the same narrative as in every
>vs
>what the fuck happened
>x now vs y then

>>161847111
What the fuck happened in 2005?
Did US drop nukes on Japan again?

>>161838561
80's>10's>90's>power gap>00's

>>161847264
If it's cherry-picking, show me an example of a character like Kenshiro from the last 5 years.

>>161847126
No?
There isn't a single character like Kenshiro from a Hollywood film, and before you say something retarded, I suggest you actually watch Hokuto no Ken before giving me the list of superficial qualities.

Can we all agree 90s looks objectively the worst out of all of those?

80s > 10s> 00s > 90s

>>161847899
what the fuck are you talking about?
90's is the best (totally not nostalgia talk)

90's > 00s > 10s >80s

>>161847864
Hokuto no Ken is popular for a reason.
He doesn't mean EVERY character has been the same.
He means that the average Arnold clone was was more or less unoriginal, maybe with something interesting here and there.
Which is true, so most stuff from the 80s and 90s is forgotten, we only remember the better things.
The fucking picture uses only above average material, but nothing of all that idiotic and forgotten schlock from those days, and nothing of the absolute mass of mediocre material that was decent but too forgettable to survive the decades.
Most characters from the right will probably be forgotten in the long run, too, time will tell who becomes a classic

>>161847864
>Kenshiro
What's the point of me doing that, when you will discard any of my picks, no matter how good, as not good enough anyway?

>>161847864
>show me an example of a character like Kenshiro
Now, that wouldn't be very original, wouldn't it?

>>161848607
Well, the way he says it he almost sounds as if for him a good MC has to be like Kenshiro.
Which, amusingly, would make this dear anon one of the exact kind of people who are responsible for lazy writing in the first place.

>>161848574
>time will tell who becomes a classic
Probably very, very few, that's why classics are classic.
I can see SAO vanish within ten years, even Raildex will most likely end up as a cult classic at the very best (probably it will become thin air, too).

>>161838561
>two decades of migrating, shrinking noses

>>161848988
meant three.

>>161848926
Season 3 will make raildex great again

>>161839987
Both look like shit.

>>161847111
K-on was a mistake.

>>161849378
K-On brought us a new era of anime. Good or bad, you can't argue with that I think it was a good change

>>161849378
K-On has some of the best character designs in recent memory, kill yourself. Kyoani would have done better to stick with them

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>>161838986

I miss that everyone had random hair colors and spiky-long for absolutely no reason.

>>161846981
>one side adults
>other side teens

>>161847240
actually came here to post this

>>161847240

And this is why I'll stick to manga.

>>161849602
this, but unironically

>>161849844

Man, early 2000's was a bizarre era. It was pretty much "Comiket Generation" because I can guarantee that at least 20 shows would be fanservice-y and would always lead up to that one token Comiket episode.

>>161849941
I just realized how little early 2000s stuff I watched:
It was too late to run on TV here, and when I disovered internet animu in 2007 I didn't even follow much currently airing stuff for two years, mostly watched things people considered classic or that sounded interesting.
For me the early 2000s are a big hole.

Think we're finally circling back around to a decent art style for anime. '00s was horrible in terms of art style and the '10s was about recovering from that.

>>161850170

I'm watching the earlier shows that I never watched fully on TV like Shaman King for example or just other shows that I've caught glances at like video stores. Like, there's so much I never caught on. Dai-Guard, HxH 1999, Initial D (Read like the first 10 volumes of it and now I forgot what even happened.), Big O, Zoids, Excel Saga, Hajime no Ippo, so much shows popular or not that I've missed. I just recently bought the Full Metal Panic BD and I'm enjoying it a lot. I just wish I can still home and watch. not worry about a damn thing.

>>161846981
Looks like they learned to make harems

Why did the nose become such a tiny point.

Were sacrificing art for better animation and I like it. LoGH looks nice in stills but it looks shit compared to Fate UBW

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>>161850675

Don't know. I miss when they actually put effort in noses.

>>161850675
Easier to animate. Although it's not really a recent thing, you can find plenty of low-detail noses in the past as well. People should simplify the eyes more as well, they're way to fucking detailed.

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>>161838561
It just gets worse and worse as time passes.

>>161850790
Fate UBW also had the biggest fucking budget ever so it was smooth as a loli's ass

>>161838967
That the main stream man wants to fuck the MC?

2000's with the huge-ass eyes and huge-ass hair was the best.

>>161842085
Nostalgiafaggot

What happened to the whole black blush thing?

>>161850790
>comparing UBW to LoGH animation in any way
>using UBW as a viable example for any animation argument
Why did you even make this post? And there were plenty of excellent examples of animation before the digital era.

>>161847864
MUH MANIME

>>161850791
muh MATUR wymyn

>>161839987
Same show. Same episode even.

>>161839885
I think its a parody of those cherrypicked "anime then-anime now" images that compare movies and ova with tv series.

>>161838561
Why call it the 2000's and 2010's? Just start using 00's and 10's. It's not like anyone uses this style of shortening or whatever it is called for anything before the 60's anymore.

>>161851436
>Mcbain in front of a brick wall.jpg

>>161850935
UBW was also rather flashy, which is pretty much standard for Ufotable these days; even if the animation is shitty at times the average person can't notice it because of all of the graphic effects.

>>161838573
japan hates chins

1980 was 37 years ago.

>>161851969
It's getting a bit TOO flashy.
Zero and KnK looked much better.

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>>161838573

>>161852465
>admitting to browsing /pol/
At least wait until the thread you got that from dies.

>>161852521
>1338551244798.jpg
That image is older than you, faggot.

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>>161851375
that's a man

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>>161842075
Adjusting the mesh of the base body is the most simple thing. Outfits, motion, hair, facial expressions and other things take way more effort.

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>>161838573
>>161838768

>>161850675
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans

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>>161849602
I hate how it declined over time within nanoha.

>>161853595
it took me less than two minutes to find it. step up your game.

>>161853842
google didn't help this time, i'm helpless wihtout it.

>>161852887
>retro """men"""

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>>161853906
>tineye
>GIS the first and only result
>anisearch result has name

>>161852887
>draw a woman
>call it a man
what happened

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>>161854075

>>161854191
>look anon, I managed to complete 1 out of 3 steps you spoonfed me
retard pride?

>>161854243
i don't know what is GIS and i don't see any search by pic option in anisearch

>>161854243
world wide

>>161838618
MEIN NEGGER
I strongly dislike the 90's eyes and the 2000's huge inter eye gap.
80's is best followed by 2010's
The other day I tried to watch saber marionette J and FFS I could not watch that thng without feeling uncomfortable at the female face deign
>>161848123
>90's is the best (totally not nostalgia talk)
an unrequested explanation is a manifest accusation

>>161849844
>Putting K-on as an age feining and design influencing anime.
The art of subtle baiting is dead.

>>161854816
Are you retarded? It's a parody of people who believe that.

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>>161854373
So you just ignored the thing you didn't know and skipped over it without even mentioning so?

>>161854816
It makes no attempt at being subtle.

>>161854816
age defining*

>>161854816
>the art of subtle baiting is dead
You just had two people respond to you seriously - see, you're good at subtle baiting!

>>161854950
>It makes no attempt at being subtle.
>implying I was saying that image was even trying to be subtle

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Kemono Furenzu is the future

>>161854950
i was trying to figure it by myself. Whatever, if anyone wants to tell me how to search it or just the sauce i would be grateful

>>161852465
I lol'd at that Yonosuke dude looking like a trap

>>161855286
Looks like shit.
Jap CGI looks like shit in general.
Especially Polygon's 12FPS eyecancer.
Heck the only decent jap CGI i saw was un Fafner Exodus.

>>161855369
obligatory precure mention

>>161855369
SE's internal CG team literally revolutionized and pioneered photorealistic (at the time) CG with Final Fantasy Spirits Within

>>161855542
we're talking anime. photorealistic is a different problem space.

>>161855369
Everyone agrees the animation and art quality of kemono friends was shit, it had absolutley no budget. but it had good directing and cute character designs and that's all that actually mattered.

>>161855542
>SE
No shit. And DICE introduced photogrammetry into gayms.
Big companies related to gamedev can and will get top crop 3DCGI animators.
We're talking usual anime.

>>161855641
I mean not just furry friends, jap CGI in general looks like shit.
Japs need to work with hardware vendors (AMD/nVidia) to push decent and cheap 3DCGI.

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>>161855737
The bigger issue is the way they animate in CGI. They treat it the same as traditional animation but not everything that works for 2D works as well in CGI.

>>161855785
Ye. Only Orange has at least SOME understanding how to use CGI.
But they still need to work closely with hardware vendors if they really want to push CGI into anime.

>>161855641
It had good directing?

>>161855737
You can fuck right off with that line of thinking

sorry but arcsys is like half a decade ahead of the curve with guilty gear

>>161855922
>gamedev
Well of fucking course they'll have good animators.

can someone post some good 3dcg anime

i've literally never seen it

>>161855737
You're retarded. hardware is not the issue. anime is not vidya games that need to render in realtime. animators work on preview-quality renders 90% of the time anyway. you only need render farms to finish scenes.
Of course having a good gfx accelerator in workstations helps, but there is no need to "work with hardware vendors" to get people working.

And anime-style CG is way less demanding compared to photorealistic stuff. It's not like they need subsurface lighting, material effects and all the other jazz.

You sound like a /v/tard trying to be a CG expert.

>>161856047
It's about software tailored to specific hardware and not hardware itself you moron.

>nose will make comeback, everyone looks like Kaiji
>because media in Japan is ran by communists just like in west, we get 1 nigger per 5 white-skinned (up from current 1 per 150)
>thicc is memed into reality: BMI of waifus is raised from 22 to 32

We will get a lot of long-nosed fat niggers. Screencap this.

>>161856165
DAS RITE

>>161856165
>japs
>communits
Not sure if /pol/tard or simply retarded.

>>161856165
>waifus
waifu=/=girl, /pol/tard

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>>161856165
>thicc is memed into reality

oh yeah. i'm fucking READY

>>161856221
Fucking no.
Anything but blobs of fat.

>>161840137
exactly, whiter = more feminine

men are supposed to be tanned

>>161856146
You're still talking bullshit. Industry standard software like maya is not vendor-specific, they use standard APIs like OGL or DX. This isn't vidya games where optimizing for hardware is necessary for better FPS. FPS does not matter when you do offline rendering. Disney renders their CG movies at frames per minute or something like that.

Aikatsu CG was pretty fucking good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2RJuEeiSPQ

>>161856318
Disney uses CPU farms.
We're talking something like SSG powered racks, where most rendering is done on GPU.

>>161846981
Before and after NGE

>>161856359
You're missing the point by a mile

>>161856359
It's animators that are expensive, not hardware. Better hardware won't make CGI look better.

>>161855940
>animation studio
>uh why would they have good animators

>>161855865
by modern standards

>>161856324
The motion looks wrong. And something about the outfits doesn't fit with the rest, I think they're using different shaders. It just looks like some polished MMD.
And let's not talk about the audience.

>>161856544
Considering modern studios try to cheap out on everything, yeah, why would they have good animators?
Good animator wants fatter paycheck.

>>161856544
Traditional animators and CG animators are not the same thing. A game studio on the other hand is likely to have people familiar with all the tools anyway.

>>161856547
What is "directing" to you?

>>161854816
Please hurry up and tell us you were just pretending, I'm starting to worry there might actually be people this dumb among us.

>>161856628
>It just looks like some polished MMD.
Okay then post some better CG.

>>161847240
this

>>161838573
All the xenoestrogens in the water

>>161856324
CG dancing is so bad. It may be a useful tool for learning the moves yourself, but it's so boring to watch. It's so lifeless and emotionless, it's just the dancemoves in the most sterile way possible.

>>161838561
90s and 00s style is so nostalgic, i really miss it

>>161858654
It looks uncanny.

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>>161838561
Scientists have predicted what the average anime will look like in 2020 and it's beautiful

>>161838561
i hate the "dot nose" thing so much

>>161857578
https://a.doko.moe/mjctzs.webm

>>161838561
>80's
The only shit that looked like that were OVA's

>>161846981
Someone should make a reversed version of this picture.

>>161856165
You have to go back.

>>161856165
I'll take giant FKMT nose over dot nose any day

>>161839987
It's called squash and stretch one of the 12 principles of animation. That's what makes it funny. It was the main animation style for ren and stimpy

>>161846981
All of them are high schoolers of course they won't have facial hair and jacket muscles. They are teens.

>>161838573
>that obvious Shinji Ikari in the 90's

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>>161838561
>What will 20s anime look like?
That's a pretty easy thing to figure out. Just look at illustrations of recent LNs and you'll get a decent idea on current art trends and the direction it's going in. There's an overall improvement in my opinion.

>Is it going to be all 3D generated?
I highly doubt it, unless someone invents a revolutionary new technology. We may get more of them but not more than 2-3 per season. 3DCG is hated with a passion.

00>10>90>80

>>161860443
gay

>>161860443
90>00>80>>>10

>>161860443
>>161860505
10>80>90>70>00

>>161860566
you accidentally put it backwards

What are you even rating? Obviously, the newer the designs, the better it will generally look. It's called art evolution. Only salty oldfags think the 90s looks better and only for nostalgic reasons.

>>161860737
k

>>161860737
No. The old designs may be ugly, and some certainly are, but they have more detail. This detail has been lost in time.

>>161856033
Etotama.

If there's one issue I feel is worth pointing out, it's age. Recent characters don't look their age. Most of it is
>draw a 10 year old
>eventually slap some tits
>call it a high schooler
The problem is even exaggerated in, say, New Game.

>>161861030
What are he 2012 and 1974 ones from?

>>161850675
Because having a huge nose is an inherently unattractive feature.

>>161861607
how new

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>>161861030
That's not even a spaceship.
This is a spaceship.

>>161861614
Oy vey.

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>>161859715

>>161861757
Even in this all the new ones look pretty gay

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Caw caw caw? Caw caw caw caw.
Caw caw.

>>161861829
Is this /poeg/?

>>161861757
It looks like the right side barely changed

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>>161842241
>a bit of filtering
Is that what you call that shitty bloom kyoani and every studio trying to copy them is plastering all over anime? It's a lazy and pretentious attempt to seem more like a film but really it just looks like someone smeared a layer of grease on your monitor. Look at how the colors bleed everywhere, that makes us a film!

>>161862362
And it works!
Don't forget to add some bokeh.

>>161862223
>Kaiji
madhouse was just very faithful to the 90s artstyle, checkmate atheists

>>161862362
I'm ok with light amounts of filtering, but they often go too far.

Ufotable needs to go back to KnK or F/Z style.
They are overdoing it with filters and fucking eyecancer amounts of bloom.

>>161862405
>bokeh
Gotta hide the equally lazy 3dcg/photographed backgrounds somehow.

>>161862689
It's cheap but looks decent.
Hey, as long as it works!

>>161844444
knock knock knock

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>>161847240
>>161838561

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>>161838561
>>161863059
>You unlock this door with the key of imagination

>>161862506
>F/Z style
zero backgrounds looked dead somehow. they overdid the lighting on them. everything was blue during night time or green underground. Only K is worse.

>>161861030
>nips build the literal biggest target in the world and still can't get over it 70+ years later.

>>161863666
they're just waiting for railguns to work to build another one. maybe they could put one of the gundam statues as superstructure on it

>>161842075
To put things into perspective, we still haven't even mastered normal CG yet. Pixar's Inside Out was supposed to have all five main characters glow softly, but Pixar just didn't have the technology to do it without causing a fuckton of conflicts with their lighting engine. After a long struggle, they barely got one of them to glow and their solution wouldn't work with more than one on-screen object at a time. Full length CGI features have been around for over two decades and they still run into technical limitations.

Even if we have the basic technology by 2020, it'll still be decades before they can do it without "cheating". There will be a lot of things that simply won't work in software for a long-ass time and early works will try to skirt around. They'll either do 2D+Pseudo2D hybrids that draw attention to how off the early psuedo2D looks or just make it a point to only animate things that are easy to animate (like how early CG films avoided water).

Am I the only one who likes the 10s style best?

>>161860364
>Just look at illustrations of recent LNs and you'll get a decent idea on current art trends and the direction it's going in
>current art trends

I'm having trouble codifying what the trend is overall, what 's your take on things so far? Which pixiv artists embody the trends best?

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>>161847240
The future's lookin' bright.

>>161860826
>detail
The artists know better. They simplified what needed simplifying, rounding up what needed rounding up and removed all unnecessary shading and textures. Relatively minimal designs and using flats for coloring look better.

>>161865474
No, you're not. The only ones who think that older is better are hipster """patricians""" and oldfags who grew up with them so they're biased.

>>161863059
10/10

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>>161863059
Perfect.

>>161852465
Nothing wrong with yuto though

>>161842085
>putting 00s that low
don't you remember haruhi came out in the 00s? that at least bumps it up to on par with 90s

>>161860102
aren't you supposed to be getting ready for school?

>>161856165
>communists
>memed
>waifus

Either go back to your cancer ward of a board or stop writing like an underage fresh out of youtube comments.

>>161863104
Gash Bell was ahead of it's time

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>>161861829

>>161865785
>the Most Dangerous kemono

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>>161838561
There.

>>161868426
Finally, the time of eyebrows has come.

>>161851477
It's a very old /v/ meme comparing console to PC.

>>161838561
When anime becomes entirely CGshit, I'll know it's time to die.

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>>161838561
>What will 20s anime look like?

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>>161868533
It will be glorious.

>>161863059
Someone needs to edit another row into >>161838561 with that image.

Good job.

>>161869074
>row
Column, I meant.

They don't make the thumbnail as small as another row like in >>161868426.

>>161861757
>naruto in then

this on is my favorite

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>>161861757
>naruto
>then
>Jojo
>now

>>161850675
The mouth, nose and ears are inherently disgusting, which is why the mouth and nose on anime girls is made tiny, and ears are often hidden behind hair or changed into cute cat ears. This also explains why Jews are considered unattractive.

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>>161863059
>>161868426
>>161869119

>>161869886
kanpeki

>>161869725
That is entirely a japanese culture thing, western culture always focused on actual realistic proportions.

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>>161870109
>western culture always focused on actual realistic proportions

>>161870187
That is degeneracy, not western culture.

>>161869886
Noice.

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>>161868426
I could see this

>>161870267
Are you going to make me say it?

>>161870267
>Everything I don't like is degeneracy
>by /pol/, age 12.

>>161856033
It doesn't exist. CGfags think "lots of motion and camera movement" means it looks good. It doesn't.

>>161859519
Which there was an abundance of thanks to the bubble economy.

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hopefully this.

>>161854191
what search is this?

>>161869886
>nose
No

>>161861144
This

>>161861144
But they all look their age in new gane except the two that are acknowledged in storu to look like kids. Do you think 20 year old women have wrinkled faces?

>>161872251
Etotama and, evidently, PriPara are the only pieces of evidence that lead me to believe CG will be OK.
We all saw the first episode of Alice to Zouroku where the CG was god awful, yes?

>>161873466
Etotama looked like an early 2000's video game CG cinematic.

>>161855737
Why haven't the magicans behind Team Red started making anime yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scAw2YxwZEM