This should have been Frieza's final form

>>161727599
The second form is pretty uninspired when you compare it to his final form.
It's literally just his first form but bigger and bulkier.

>>161728331
Whereas the final form is just a simple ayy lmao

Frieza was the last time the villain truly felt an order of magnitude stronger than the heroes.

Ever since then it was mostly inferred through the fact that the heroes were getting punched up or explained via dialogue, but visually it never really got bigger after frieza.

>>161727599
Artists would have complained abut the lines on his arm then.

Toriyama's entire thing was "appearance isn't everything" even from the beginning of Dragon Ball, heck even in Dr. Slump. He's always had the idea that smaller or less menacing than the standard=better. Goku as a kid especially exemplifies this. Even the Nappa/Vegeta power dynamic is like this as well (taller, balder, rugged guy is significantly weaker than the smaller and thinner twink next to him).

Heck he still does this in modern times with Super Saiyan God looking like a downgrade visually from SS3

>>161728623

The approach from the start was different with Frieza, with every other villain the cast was training and preparing to defeat them, it seemed like a reachable goal, Frieza on the otherhand terrified the fuck out of everyone and everyone did their best to avoid him, even Vegeta only considered fighting Frieza after becoming immortal with the dragonballs.

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How can Frieza even compete?

>>161727599
Cool tweet.

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>>161727599
Patrician tastes. Freeza's second form is real classy for a lady.

>>161729033
By not being dead?

>>161728863
Theoretically, if a Saiyan got immortality from the dragon balls, would they be able to get zenkai boosts? After all, they can't get near death if they can't die in the first place.

>>161729033
By being canon.

>>161729152
but Frieza is dead

>>161729097
Is that you Pineapple? Who's manning the radars?

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>>161729277
But Cooler is DEDDER DAN DED!

>>161729175
if you look at how immortality is handled in super, it's basically unlimited and perfect regen

TOKUSENTAI!
TOKUSENTAI!!
TOKUSENTAI!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyAEB8TPs1g

>>161729033
B-but muh recolor

Fuck off

The rules of fiction dictate that transforming villains operate as follows

>Normal form
>Super mode
>Monstrous form
>Sleek, attractive, minimalist final form

>>161729508
I actually love that "trope" where the final form is all of their previous power condensed into a compact smaller form, like bleach or d.gray-man for example.

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>>161729033
> Freeza manages to land a few good hits on SSJ Goku
> Cooler couldn't even scratch Goku and would've got immediately BTFO, had he not forced Goku to push back his Supernova

Bet dende could have helped somehow

>>161728623
True, but they probably changed it later on because power levels became bullshit. The Freeza saga was bullshit. Goku had a power level of ~150,000 when he fought Ginju, while Freeza had a power level of over 1,000,000 in his second form.
But then Goku goes in the healing pod, and gets a power boost and can fight almost evenly with Freeza in his final form. Wtf?
Vegeta even literally told Krillin to injure him, and then Dende to heal him, so he will get a power boost.
In the Buu saga, it seemed like Buu, Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku were about even-ish in terms of power, but Buu had the upper head due to his regeneration and because he could absorb people. So imo there's less power level bullshit in the Buu saga (except for Mystic Gohan)

>>161729508
Reminder that Toriyama was the one who invented that.

>>161729508
this guy gets it

>>161730147
Gohan was stated to have fallen behind because no training. He then gets way more powerful than them with the ritual.
Goku was literally holding back in their short (in the manga) fight with majin-buffed Vegeta and the next time Vegeta reappears after his sacrifice he is shown to be very angry about it.

>>161727599
you just don't get it

>>161728331
His final is the same as the original but with no detailing. The most "original" is the one no one likes, and was stolen from a movie.

Why dont they just fight in their strongest form right away?

>>161729337
>Is that you Pineapple? Who's manning the radars?
I don't get this reference.

>>161730497
Freiza's henchmen were named after fruit.

>>161731500
>Freiza's henchmen were named after fruit.
Ohhh right. I remember now. I'm ashamed I let that slip passed. I loved that movie, even the TFS dub.

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>>161729033
I fucking love Cooler's design, especially his robot form.
Shame both of his movies sucked.

>>161731500
the biggest fruit was zarbon and he wasn't even named after one.

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>>161732217
>He is an elegant warrior who serves alongside Dodoria as one of Frieza's top two highest ranking Generals and right-hand men. His name comes from the Japanese word for the pomelo fruit (ザボン, or 朱欒).
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Zarbon

>>161728615
That was the point. They thought his final form was going to be horrific but it was his tamest in appearance. His power was off the charts though.

>>161730147
He had a power level of 180000 and he even says to ginyu "If you think this is impressive, this is nothing compared to what i can put out in short bursts" which the scouters couldnt even pick up. Gokus power level in short bursts easily surpassed 1 million by that time.

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>>161729448

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>>161732299
well now i know better.
thanks for the info.

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>>161732299
Always assumed it was a french BonBon myself, how informative.
>>161732841
>he cried tears as all good men do

>>161732926
>"I'm better that you because I pay money to flaunt my e-penis on this disgrace of a website until it begins to chafe!"
That's you, you're that guy right now and you need to consider what that really means.

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>>161733000
What?

>>161727599
>Jaco vs Hotel Mini-Fridge

>>161733021
In me defense harty, the muscle reflexes to type 'that' over 'than' be awww screw it you know my finger typed below the 'H' key instead of above. I sure hope this won't affect how Lord Frieza determines my grade average at the end of the year...

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Posting the best designed Dragon Ball villain.

>>161733625
objectively correct

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>>161733625
He was the only villain that was legit scary. Only the first form/imperfect Cell was good. DBZ in general barreled downhill the second he transformed to Semi-Perfect in quality. It never recovered.

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More importantly, why is he always in Final Form now?

He literally spent his entire life in one form, then magically transforms multiple times and stays like that

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>>161733920
Ur asking the hard questions now, anon.

>>161733920

Easier to draw and more iconic with people is what I would think.
Those gooks are always looking for the easy way out.

>>161733000
>>161733121

srsly wat?

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>>161733920
>More importantly, why is he always in Final Form now?
>He literally spent his entire life in one form, then magically transforms multiple times and stays like that
He said he did intense energy training in hell because Goku showed him his weakness in Golden form. Now he can stay Golden/Final without any impact to his energy consumption rates.

Basically like Goku did with Gohan before the Cell games.

>>161727599
>Creepy pink shit
No

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>>161733625
ohai lavos

>>161730147
>In the Buu saga, it seemed like Buu, Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku were about even-ish in terms of power

Only Goku, because of Super Saiyan 3, and Gohan, because of Mystic. Majin Vegeta couldn't contest Fat Buu at all in a straight fight which is why he had to try and go for a double KO by blowing himself up.

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>>161729033
Cooler is SEXY af man