Why are so many hentai artists drawing the men in their work

Japanese men jack off to other people have sex rather than themselves having sex

It's so fat old men can self insert better or its some sort of cuckoldry/humiliation fetish to see a beautiful woman defiled by a fat old man.

>>161693095
Good question. Drawing sexy or even cute males would improve the whole experience.
I am not gay, just saying that what i said would be better than the generic fat, old, hairy, shitskinned man.

>>161693095
Self-insert

Self-insertion. They're just drawing the audience.

Because it's not about eroticism, it's about channeling bitterness and resentment. They're not aroused by the sex, but rather the defilement of a representation of beauty, purity, or just the women who they feel spurn them.

As a bitter KHV, the least of what I need is to see attractive men getting women. I can't see anything vanilla or consensual without feeling terrible anymore

Degradation fetish. The men are fat and ugly to make the woman as helpless and broken as possible.

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>>161693095
What about something with a fat, ugly old man with a cute girls but it's actually sweet vanilla instead of rape?

>>161693095
100% degradation, most pornography is very bitter and disgusting. Japan just has 'old fat man maymay' for the West's 'bbc maymay.'

Look up stats for porn. Very enlightening to know the user-base, while massive, is full of losers past their prime. It's also why everywhere with easy access to porn has an aging population and age-mean of above 40.

Never use porn, you are by definition never in a good position, no pun intended. Even lesbian porn makes you a loser.

>>161693095
It's way easier to for me to cum to a girl getting fucked by an old fat man than by some hot ripped dude or whatever. It's hotter because it goes against common sense and also I think it's easier to self insert as the lowest common denominator than as an attractive person.

Probably so that the reader doesn't hate himself soo much. Afterall a fat gross old losers is probably worse than 90% of hentai readers. That way they can still feel superior.

>>161693543
God, kill yourself.

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>>161693655
No gay but if the man has great personalities sure why not

>>161693095
Long ago, I wondered the same. Keep reading vanilla with good looking men, and soon you'll start craving something different. That's when this comes in. For me, it was a slow journey, where I started wanting to see a single, good girl character from a certain series be humiliated. It spread, I started wanting to see more characters humiliated. Degraded. It went from rape, mind break, to gang rape, rape, dirty old men and dirty, fat monsters. I even got to a point when I liked Orc/Elf doujins. It's really just a matter of time. People get bored of seeing the same thing.

Once you've experienced it all, though, you'll be back where you started, reading vanilla, but now you'll be a better, wiser man. A man who has seen the world and all its evil. A man who appreciates the goodness you see even more than he did before. A man who understands.

>tfw never had this problem because you're attractive
Sometimes I seriously forget everybody isn't like me. I'm still a loser but at least I don't have problems when it comes to my chinese porn, thank god.

>>161693655
There is that two image set of some mafia looking thug buying an elf slave, but ends up being kind hearted and cooks a warm meal for her, and the second image is her making a flower crown placed on his head as he's dozing off under a tree

>>161693095
Did you ever consider that troll-like men are way more fun to draw?

>>161693795
>wanting to see a single, good girl character from a certain series be humiliated
>from a certain series
Is this a clue?

>>161693797
>I'm attractive so that means I like old bald fat men in my doujins
I'm having trouble understanding your train of thought.

>>161693655
Acceptable, tends to turn out really sweet. Related, there's quite a few eromanga/games in recent years that feature gyaru sluts seducing a lonely fat ugly (old) man for enkou, and ends up falling for the old guy as the old guy rekindles his sex drive and fucks like a beast.

>>161693095
It's degrading

>>161693095
I am ok with faceless men but when the guy is exceptionally ugly and the works focus on his body and face constantly against hers its kinda fucking weird like are people actually jerking off to the ugly dudes and not the girls?
some bizarre fetish

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>>161693095

Found the pornfag who whines about Ron Jeremy or paying more attention at a dude's ass on camera than the girl

>>161694666
but why would someone want to see a good character humiliated? I can understand if the character is a bitch but if they are genuinely really friendly why would you want to see them brutally gang raped and abused? Are you guys just somewhat evil and trying to keep yourselves in check?

>>161694915
I was simply curious if he was talking about a character from Raildex when he said "a certain series".

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>>161694915
>Are you guys just somewhat evil and trying to keep yourselves in check?
What makes you think so?

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>>161693095
Literally an MC like me

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>>161695057
>This is the japanese alpha male. You may not like it, but this is what peak perfomance looks like.

>>161694915
You're replying to Satan. What do you think?

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>>161695072
my inability to understand your ability to take pleasure in the corruption of an innocent person in a grotesque manner

>>161694901
Someone took the extra time, several hours per doujin, to make several panels specifically showing a grotesquely ugly male character. There's a reason for that and it's not "so you can ignore them".

>>161695247
That my friend is a surefire way to waste time overthinking stuff.

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>>161695242
In time you will understand.
You will become one of us.

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>>161694915
Why do you watch porn? For pleasure. So let me ask you, anon. Why must you see pleasure in such a narrow sense? Where is the contradiction in treating suffering and tragedy as forms of pleasure? Pleasure doesn't come from one form. You're confused because you don't understand that.

>Are you guys just somewhat evil and trying to keep yourselves in check?
Let me ask you something first. When you play a video game, why do you play the ones that involve fighting, conflict and murder? Why are those games popular and prevalent? There are many ways two people can have "fun" in the real world without murdering each other, yet in most games, that fun is derived from conflict. From fighting. Let me give you the answer myself. Because it excites you. Your soul craves it. It makes you feel superior. You enjoy ruining others for your own pleasure. You're a weak man, so you can't actually deal with the consequences of destroying someone's life. This society is full of weak men, so they even punish you for being stronger and seeking pleasure. So you turn to games.

It's the same in this case. If, in the end, you're going to see the same action, see someone get fucked by another, why not add the extra context of domination? Why not have the girl resist and struggle pointlessly, crying and begging for forgiveness? It adds extra excitement to the scene. It makes the reader feel superior. It makes the reader feel above other life, which gives them pleasure. What you deem evil is what excites them.

>>161693095
Fuck off back to >>>/h/ instead of copying and pasting your posts and images.

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>>161695242
I remember when I used to think like you, you fall deeper into the rabbit hole with time

>>161695498
Clearly your fetish is pleb tier and the rabbit hole is filled to the brim with normalfags, us patricians stand on the ivory tower where there's considerably fewer people of superior taste.

>>161695196
>good guy saving slaves by buying them
>he has to dress and act accordantly for the situation or the sellers won't take him seriously
I want to see an anime with such a plot

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>>161693095
Probably something to do with light degradation. Otaku probably don't want to watch a handsome, clean cut, put together guy fuck a girl he has no chance with tenderly, he'd rather project a gross fat fuck like himself raping and degrading said girl as a sort of fantasy revenge

>>161693543
Become bisexual and fap to both the men and the women.

>>161693512
This, it's all about defiling her and punishing the reader in the process. Same reason ntr is so popular in Japan, their culture is very masochistic and encourages the endurance of pain and humiliation with dignity.

>>161693095
i really hate that shit since im not obese and actually have some muscle and im far from being ugly, it really upsets me watching gross men fucking women, both in hentai and porn

at least get some average guy who looks calm and well mannered, or I simply end fapping to girls masturbating (wich is the best type of porn)

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>>161697432
Fuck off back to your containment board >>>/h/

>>161693095

It's mostly self insert. They appeal to the average Japanese otaku. Usually unattractive, overweight. etc

>>161697558
Fuck off back to /reddit/

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>>161693095

Obligatory

>>161695196
Cute

It's more debasing for a beautiful woman to get fucked by a guy who should be beneath her.

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>>161693095
Feels a little bad knowing Japs use the eldery for degradation.
Old people need sum fuk time to time as well.

>>161693543
Somehow I dont think that has anything to do with hentai.

>>161695559
Well, There was a manga similar to that but it was a good looking guy with money buying slaves(women in debt?) for "art".