Chronological v. Broadcast order, which do you prefer?
I watched it in chronological and there was nothing wrong. I don't really see any benefit that could come from watching it in the broadcast order but I guess next time I rewatch it I'll try that to see what all the hubbub is about
Broadcast is more satisfying. I love Haruhi forever!
Broadcast makes sense when you're only watching season 1, now that there's a "season 2" and a movie chrono makes more sense. Just make sure you watch the so called "s2" episodes in between the original episodes and not afterwards.
I watched it in broadcast first because I didn't know about it. I don't see the point in broadcast order, it doesn't add anything, so I prefer chronological. I prefer Someday in the Rain as the final episode too.
If you only watch cronologically, you're missing out on the great buildup of season 1, ending with episode 16 (6 chronological) and THAT KISS.
On the other hand, there IS no broadcast order for season 2 alone, since it aired with season 1 episodes interwoven. You can watch season 2 on its own, and I did when I rewatched the series, but it's not recommendable.
So the best way to enjoy the full Haruhi experiences is:
1. watch season 1 alone, broadcast order.
2. wait a couple of months or years
3. watch season 1 and 2 together, new broadcast order = chronological.
4. watch the movie
5. only faggots skip E8
both have pros and cons. in broadcast order, story are tell in non linear narrative you are given small picture in arc after arc, when you gather all of the small picture assembling them allow you to see the larger picture. self realisation/discovery made the show more satisfying than being spoonfeed in chronological order. but this might complicated the plot and confuse viewer.
watching in chronological order make more sense as we watch the show in linear order where the story flow seamlessly but it also remove the self discovery part and made the show a little bit dull. thus, chronological order is best recommended when rewatching the show. a perfect example of non linear narrative is monogatari series which have high rewatch value if watch in chronological order.
tl/dr i watch in both order if its a show that i really enjoy.
My fav moment every day was kyon almost buying yuki a mask but her buying a different one each time
Was relatable to me hesitating so much I guess, always made me melon collie
As for order I watched chronological and still didn't really know what was happening but would recommend it
i'm starting this show today
what are you guys talking about?
there are 28 episodes in the series (14 for s1 and 14 for s2) and a movie right?
could someone explain to me
>pic related are what i was gonna watch
First season didn't have chronological order order; second season had season one in chronological order with new episodes in-between to fit the timeline. More here
I've watched it years ago, so I can't really tell by your images what order are your episodes in. Watch the beginning of the first episode and tell me what you see.
Still, watching adventures of Mikuru any other way than as first episode makes no sense.
Most downloads have it in chronological, but looks like your is separated by season. Just try episode 1, if it's very strange and surprising with low quality images it's probably in broadcast order, the right order. You'll know what I mean if it's the episode I'm talking about.
Broadcast is infinitely better if this is your first time with Haruhi.
Nah. Endless Eight and Sigh are unessential side stories and can be watched at any point. Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody is important to the movie though. It fits in perfectly with S1 broadcast order if you insert it before or after Mysterique Sign.
When S1 was coming out they aired the episodes out of order to give the season a better sense of narrative flow as the second half of the season doesn't have a lot of tension. However, as I said here >>161634348 this doesn't work now that S2 is out because some of the S2 episode take place between S1 episodes, and there is no way to watch S2 other than chronologically.
Plus the Movie solves the problem of the series ending on an anti-climax, so broadcast order is completely irrelevant in nowadays.
Season 1 only -> Broadcast order
Season 1 + 2 + movie -> Chronological order
The broadcast order made sense when it aired because it had the climax at the end, but now the movie is the climax which goes last one way or another, so chronological order is better if you plan on watching more than just Season 1.
I did, in four blocks of two episodes each over two days. And I honestly found it much better than Sigh. The stories are still mostly unimportant.
My main point is that you should watch BLR alongside S1.
I should add Season 1 + Season 2 -> Season 1 in broadcast order and then Season 2. Although there's no point in watching Season 2 and not watching the movie.
Also, watch as much of Endless Eight as you can. Make sure to watch at least the first, second and last episode of it.
Just do what you like, Frenchie. In my opinion, broadcast order is better than the chronological because later you put the pieces together in your brain to create a whole, coherent story.
Here. Take your pick. Your folder is the 2009 rebroadcast, aka chronological order for the whole thing (the right column in my pic)
Whether you chose chronological or broadcast, I suggest watching episode 00 - the adventures of Mikuru Asahina before anything. It's the 2009 - 12 one in your folder.
I saw it in broadcast order.
>Kyon keeps referring to "that" moment in closed space
>constantly wondering what is it he's referring to
>see the "final" episode with the talent show
>be a little melancholy that the show is over now, but what a perfect ending
>oh wait, no it isn't, there's still one episode left!
>feels like finding $20 in a pair of jeans you haven't worn in a year
>season now ends with Haruhi admitting she likes Kyon by doing her hair up in a ponytail
>now that's a perfect ending
That's a good climax, but the movie does it even better.
don't take that watching order too seriously, some people like chronological others like broadcast, but everyone love the movie
Broadcast order is what it is for the specific reason of keeping new viewers in suspense. You can only watch it in broadcast order for the first time once. Don't ruin that experience for you by going chronological, save that for some later rewatch.
It's the one you should watch first. It simply looses most of its charm once you know everything. Also, if it's like this, then you likely have first season in chronological order, then second season in chronological order. The worst way of seeing it.
Watch the episode starting with cute girl and a song first, then use wiki to either go with broadcast or chronological.
I watched in in chronological order the first time and I wish I didn't. It really made everything after melancholy VI feel like useless filler. Definitely broadcast is the best way to view it the first time.
I've already seen the series several times, but most people don't go into a series intending to watch it more than once.
And what you just said is stupid. If someone were to follow you advice they'd be watching season two in a pants-on-head retarded order.
Not him, but season first is generally considered to be significantly better than "season two". Therefore enhancing your experience with the former might be much better for the overall enjoyment.
Good chart and good post.
I still recommend broadcast order for season 1 to understand it's impact and how the story narrative of that season works, but I can definitely understand why someone wouldn't want to go through the trouble having to reorganize everything since most torrents and DL only have the chronological order for some dumb reason.
I already posted about putting BLR next to Mysterique Sign since it chronologically plays just before that. (MS first, then BLR would follow the example of Sagittarius and Live a Live)
You could try fitting Sigh around the school festival episodes, but it doesn't add as much to S1. Just watch it as a block.
I marathoned the second season overnight without knowing anything about what was in it. I resisted the temptation to look up what people thought of this horror and how many episodes there were, but by ~ #5 in the loop I suspected it would fill the remaining season.
There was some very mild nausea, stockholm, and beaten dog syndrome but I guess it was still a good show, really made you think.
broadcast order made s1 harder to watch in one go than s2, weirdly enough
I think it's a waste getting episodes like live a live and the adventures of Mikuru so fast. S2 will feel poor in comparison if you watch in that broadcast format. Chronological is the only way to go and the first arc being the entire melancholy will get you hooked with the series unless you're one of these anons with shit taste.
Placing the first season finale at about the end of the first quarter of the marathon would kill the flow and pacing for me and I probably wouldn't have been able to slog through the whole show at first watch.
>but I wish there was more nagato
You're lucky. There is an entire anime about Nagato.
Always broadcast. It's the way they original inteded the show to be seen. You could end up spoiled on events and characters that the show doesn't want you to now until later if you go with the chronological order. You could also end up knowing more about the plot that the main characters, which could leave scene of them tapping in dark frustriating instead of suspensful. If the show is made in a non-chronological order, then it was also paced and directed that way, having the climax of the show happen mid-season can't be good for your oroginal impressions. If you wanna rewatch it in chronological order that's fine, but I don't see why youwould ever go out of your way to watch the show in a way it wasn't intended.
>It's the way they original inteded the show to be seen.
Okay that's simply not entirely true, it was intended to be like that when only Season 1 was out. There's a reason why it was aired on chronological order when Season 2 was going to start.
>aving the climax of the show happen mid-season can't be good for your oroginal impressions.
That's only true if you consider Melancholy the climax rather than Disappearance.
Season 2 and the movie destroyed every argument for broadcast order, no one should ever watch it that way except as a novelty.
>Okay that's simply not entirely true, it was intended to be like that when only Season 1 was out.
Yes it is, originaly means intially, at first, at the time of origin, at the start. Later happenings aside s1 was originaly meant to be seen in such as way. I was talking more in a general sense. And considering Haruhi's, popularity by the time s2 aired everyone has already seen s1. Plus they probably wanted more exposure for less work, which is why they aired both seasons instead of just the new ones.
okay i'm gonna go with what this anon said >>161636264
Watch the episode starting with cute girl and a song first then watch it in chronological.
gonna watch that ep now and tomorrow go by chronological. see ya
It's still the climax of s1, the pace of the show and cliffhangers depend on you not knowing certain information. Having more information than it was intended could hinder your enjoyment of the show. You're basicaly spoiled for certain scenes because you have outside knowledge.
Well if the problem is outside knowledge then it's a moot point since by now, more than a decade after S1 finished airing, everyone already has that knowledge. Haurhi is hardly obscure, and people who are even mildly interested in anime have absorbed everything via cultural osmosis by now
Are the adaptations made for general audiences or exclusively for the one that already read the novels? Is there knowledge in the novels that is crucial for me to have before watching the show?
By that logic you could argue that it's okay to watch them in reverse order since the audience already has the knowledge of the events it would make no significant difference. If scenes, reveals, cliffhangers are paced around certain knowledge why would you watch it in any other way?
if i don't end up enjoying this to it's full potential, then it's fine. it's just one anime
i'm not gonna make the effort to try and find the the "right order". i have it in chronological and that's how i'll watch it. if i had it in broadcast, i would've watched it that way too
>You can enjoy them just fine without reading the novels, most do
But then your point is moot. If the show's director intended for me to watch without knowledge from the novels. Then it is the originaly intended way for watching the show.
And after S2 came out they intended you to watch S1 and 2 together chronologically. That's why they played them together, and every DVD/Blu-Ray release since then has had both seasons.
That different enough for me to separate them. If a s2 of some show featured 2 flashback episodes that explain events during a time skip that happened durng s1. Would go go out of your way to watch them chronologicaly and recomend others to do so. Or would you watch them the way they were aired?
Yep, I did. I found there were plenty of differeces between the episodes and found the whole thing entertaining, especially the response from some anons on here. I'll be watching the whole thing again soon, and that will include endless eight.
Only prior to the release of S2, since then they've expected you to watch them at the same time.
That depends, was there a later airing where those flashback episodes were put correctly into there place in the timeline? Does every DVD/Blu-Ray have them in that position? If so, I'd tell them to watch it chronologically.
Are you telling me they never expected anyone new to come into the series ever, and just watch it in the order on the DVDs? Or even expected that the reairing was anyone's first experience with the show?
it doesn't matter what they wanted, what matters is which way is more enjoyable
i was planning on watching s1 in broadcast then in a year or so watch s1 and s2 in chronological
would you say that's a good way to go about it?
Ok, let take the baseball episode,for example. It takes place after the Melancholy 6, but was aired right before Nagato explains to Kyon the deal with Haruhi. The entire episode hinges on you guessing what's going, there are event referenced that you have no knowledge of, Koizumi appears out of nowhere, suddenly the world is in danger. Watching it in chronological order that episode is filler, and a retread of the previous plot, the situation gets defused before escalating, nothing happens. Watching it in broadcast order first and rewatching it later it becomes one of the best. The show staff made a concious decision to show you that episode in such a way, why would you watch it any other way. Same goes for episode 0 for example.
But you're not supposed to solve it. It's not a Sherlock novel, for fucks sake. It's a fun and wacky show about a science fiction plot being shoved into a school club, narrated by a jaded teenager that thinks himself above it all while also falling for the titular girl. How the fuck did you come to Haruhi expecting your intellect to be challenged.
>Then don't make a mystery.
Creating a mystery creates suspense and excitement we sure don't want any of that in our show. This is not a show where mystery is the center focus, but it does help it. You came to the show for wrong reasons.
>where things made sense
How is Haruhi a show where you find it hard to make sense of things.
>Creating a mystery creates suspense and excitement we sure don't want any of that in our show.
There are other ways to do that.
>How is Haruhi a show where you find it hard to make sense of things.
I'll admit I phrased that badly. Let me try again.
>I didn't. Because I watched chronological order where there weren't any fake mysteries.
What the fuck would those be? Mysteries where you thought you didn't know something, but you actualy knew all along? Again, this is not a mystery show, taking points away from it, because it wasn't a proper mystery story is like criticizing a horror for not being funny. The show gives you just enough information to have you guessing around and speculating, but the plot is so absurd you obviously weren't supposed to guess it. It's supposed to create confusion, and comedy because of how absurd it is.
>season 3 happens
>gets mixed with season 1 and 2 and the viewing order changes again
Just watched it the way my streaming website presented it to me. Chronological I guess. I'm a newfag, I know.
>Endless 8 airs again
>gets expanded with 8 more episodes
Damn, I already admitted I'm a newfag. I only started watching anime half a year ago. Since then I also lurk /a/. Why don't you just explain?
Because spoonfeeding is bad for the condidtion of the board as it encourages newfags like you to be newfags instead of lurking like they should.
As a side note, if you want to stream your chinese cartoons don't let anyone meme you out of it, the quality is usually worse but if you don't give a fuck then go ahead.
>the are people on /a/ right now that suggest people to watch anime on anything other than the way it is intended
Lurking you mean you're just observing and not posting for a certain period of time. That behaviour is encouraged from newfags because would hopefully mean that by the time you started posting you would have picked up what behaviours are acceptable and what not. And that in the meantime you would also ahve watched a sufficient ammount of anime to develop some sort of critical thinking, because when you have only seen a small ammount of shows you're more likely to be attached to them despite their flaws. Some people will stay obnoxious no matter how long they lurk and how many shows they watch, but that's their fault
Broadcast is 100% better, even if it means you just do all of season 2 in a row afterwards
Adventures of mikuru asahina is maybe the single best first episode of an anime ever in how it at the same time tells you nothing and everything about what the show is like, having the show effectively gutpunch you with "superpowers are real" in the middle of the baseball episode and briefly showing more stuff is way more interesting than just having everyone rant at kyon for 15 minutes about this stuff one after another, and seeing the contrast between pre melancholy ending and post haruhi (aka when she's not a giant bitch) is a better take on the character than just going from one to the other
I could probably come up with more reasons but I'll stop there, the only benefit to chronological order is that the idea of seeing an entire year of events play out is kinda cool, but from an episode to episode basis broadcast is way better
>And that in the meantime you would also ahve watched a sufficient ammount of anime to develop some sort of critical thinking, because when you have only seen a small ammount of shows you're more likely to be attached to them despite their flaws.
I get what you mean. How many shows would that be though? I've watched ~20. I dropped Your Lie in April because the first episode was packed with clishes, but if it had been my first show I wouldn't even have realized and would maybe have loved it.
Idon't know, people used to say 100 or so, but with the ammount of shows availavable that doesn't seem that much anymore. The exact number is trivial, what maters is that it reduces the chances of you being shept up by hype or mass opinion and form your own. And obviously that you can argument and defend your opinion instead. That creates quality discussion, even if you disagree with the other person. Even if you're well versed in other types of media, seeing certain tropes, character archetypes, or plot threads for the first time can cloud your judgement if they feel novel or unique to you. Anyway, watch more stuff, form opinions think about things, actually talk and disscus things with other people, don't just go around yelling:"this show suck/is great you're wrong faggots". This is off-topic as fuck so we shold probably stop with this
>season 1 in production
>only have 14 episodes to work with
>have to choose which stories to adapt carefully, skipping some of the more underwhelming ones
>they wanted the end of the first book to be the story's climax, so they intentionally played the episodes out of order (which also worked surprisingly well in creating a sense of added mystery, since you could see the aftermath of the climax before it happened)
>series is a huge hit
>want to adapt one of the best books into a movie
>oops, there was a story that the first season skipped that was vital to understanding that book
>create a weird addition to season 2 that adapts all of the (mostly underwhelming) stories that season 1 skipped to fix the problem
>don't want to touch events that happen after the upcoming movie, so they pad out the episode count with the infamous Endless Eight
>the new episodes take place in the middle of season 1 and were made to be watched intertwined with the first season and not on their own
>now the series is in an awkward position where you're forced to either watch it the way season 1 was meant to be watched or how the 28 episodes were meant to be watched
Bamboo is great, but Sighs just feels like the author was struggling to come up with the plot for the second long-form book. There are some good character scenes scattered throughout, but it's pretty understandable why it was skipped in the first place.
>Is good but arc of suspense is kinda off
>Watched in in the wrong way
Suddenly everything makes sense.
The thing about light novels is that most anime adaptions can only cover the first two books and the second book is almost universally one of the worst in the series, because the author hadn't really planned how to stretch their stand-alone book into a full series. Hence, they kind of end on a weak note. Haruhi is one of the very few to realize that and find a workaround.
>Haruhi is one of the very few to realize that and find a workaround.
That is, skip the whole second book (Sigh).
And then they still had to animate it three years later because the author is a lazy ass.
Chronological has shit pacing for S1, since Melancholy is full of pretty boring infodumps and philosophical discussion about a character we just don't know that we'll yet. Followed by the climax in ep 6, which still leaves us kinda indifferent, followed by endless filler.
Broadcast fixes that but has a really unsatisfying ending (Sigh) which doesn't lead that well into Disappearance either.
>>161641882 is honestly the best of both worlds. Wish I'd seen this post before I showed him Haruhi in broadcast order. He still didn't watch Disappearance, maybe I'll show him Someday in the Rain again to prepare the mood.
One of my favorite scenes from the series. Great atmosphere with great animating of character acting.
At the end of the day the show is about being a mindfuck and you'll never get the real experience without chronological order, full EE, and then the movie.
It's an anime where the titular and presumably main characters aren't even in the first episode and no explanation for said episode is given for many hours of air time. And that's the tip of the iceberg.
In short, there is a "Kyon order" and a "Haruhi order" for a reason.
Donating pic related for general use, not as a dig at you, OP.
PLEASE let this happen. Endless 16, the tears of EE already broke anime fandom in a way that hasn't been healed.
Honestly though I don't get the big deal. People watch the same movies or episodes of things all the time. And those are literally the same every time. Every EE episode is in fact noticeably different in several ways, including the entire tone, the mucis and stylization etc. not just costumes or trivial details. It amazes me that some people are so Kyon about that fact.
I like the way you think, Anon.
How many times would you need to watch one episode of Endless Eight to have watched it for the amount of time Nagato lived it? Assume that each repeat is the same length even though in actuality they vary by a minute or two.
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Please though everyone, give AOL and the pre-2000's it's terminology back. "Lurk" used unironically in 2017...are there History of the Internet classes being taught in schools now that triggered this resurgence?
Read other posts, save images and participate. Don't shut up with your thumb up your ass while shitposters repost the same undeleted threads for months. The people who already America Online'd have no particularly insightful things to say due to "lurking moar". The opposite, if anything.
The voice acting is also entirely different each time. It's as if they gave the same script to eight different directors with no input as to whether the script was meant to be comedic, suspenseful, have creeping dread, or be whimsical, or what.