Saber vs Post-nuke Meruem

Meruem is okay. I'm not a big enough HxH fan to even remember what "post nuke meruem" even is but I watched the more recent anime. He was like a powerful guy who felt like a DBZ ripoff and played Go? I liked his pseudo romance/friendship with the human girl?

Saber is okay but also kinda the least interesting of the Fate girls. But I think she would be more interesting in the hands of a less retarded and/or misogynistical author. She has that kinda tortured leader kinda vibe. Played most of the VN and watched the Zero anime btw.

Overall I think Meruem is more powerful (at least if Shirou is acting as Saber's master), but Saber is a better character. Neither are great though.

Can post nuke meruem tank excaliblast?

HxH characters don't really feel as superhuman to me as servants

>>161628762
If Saber loses to a school teacher then she has no chance against a real King.

>>161628762
They both lose my interest

>>161628762
Saber with Rin as master wins. Saber with Shirou as master loses just about anything.

>>161628762
Saber without avalon would lose

>>161628762
A draw

>>161628762
Saber?

Christ at least give him the Alter version to fight. At least she uses her Noble Phantasm. Saber is a retard and a highly limited retard at that. She basically only has one Noble Phantasm and doesn't like using it until she feels satisfied. And when she isn't using it she's a super hero vanilla flavored sword fighter who gets tripped up by people who aren't pathetic one trick ponies and have multiple special abilities.

Saber is shit. Seriously any other servant but her would be better. Even Hassan or Medea.

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This guy would destroy both

>>161632825
>medea
>even
She's at the top tier in servants who most likely to win HGW.

>>161634400
No he didn't. He was dead if Youpi and Pouf didn't resuscitate him, and Excalibur is significantly stronger than a cheap nuke.

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>>161634400
>he tanked a nuke, so why not?

sure anon. He sure did kek

Saber lost to a regular guy with strength/speed buffs. Post-nuke Meruem also had basically instant transmission too.

>>161634505

>Regular huy
>Former assassin

Saber lost because she under estimated that "regular guy" who isnt regular at all.

>>161634475
And half of what reduced meruem to a dried husk would make Saber into a pile of ashes, so what?

Niggas, stop being autistic. Saber never tanked anything even remotely destructive as a fucking atomic bomb and Meruem post-bomb is much more powerful than he was before due to receiving the powers of his two sycophants. She wouldn't have a chance.

>>161634717
Servants are immune to conventional weapons, so you are wrong.

>>161634505
>>161634602
Once that Greek magic was gone, that teacher was unable to affect Archer in anyway, newfag, no matter how hard he attacked Archer.

If you don't have any magic, you're not gonna affect a Servant at all or are you forgetting how Archer sliced the teacher in half?

>>161634770
Something that causes damage on par to an atomic bomb then, you understood the fucking point.

>>161634762
You're fucking retarded, newfag. What is Avalon.

Meruem can't do shit to Saber if he doesn't have any magic at all.

Mereum is incapable of harming spirits much less the supernatural.

>>161634847
Lurk more, you retarded newfag piece of shit. Nasu already said nukes would be useless against a Servant unless nuke was a part of some noble phantasm.

Mereum has no noble phantasms. He's not gonna be able to harm a Servant.

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>>161632869
This guy is a big moron

>>161634888
Like that fucking human wasn't when he choked Saber, you dumb cunt? Even if normal weaponry is useless against a servant, Meruem survived the destructive power of a atomic bomb. Did Saber survive something that destructive that affected her? No? Then what's your fucking point?

>>161634816
>>161634858
Can magic beat nen?

>>161634926
Ancient Greek magic, you newfag piece of shit.

Once that magic wore off, it was like punching in the wind when that teacher tried to attack Archer.

>>161634958
Depends on the level of nen user and the level of the magic user, I think. A more powerful nen user would beat a weaker magic user, and a more powerful magic user would beat a weaker nen user.

It's honestly baffling how 99% of secondaries don't get F/SN.
Like, the first fucking episode of the UBW anime tells you that Servants are spirits, and therefore can't be affected by anything other than magic.
How can you even be this retarded?

>>161634989

>Source : My ass

>>161635092
Sure, a less powerful shitty mage who can't do shit would kick the fuck out niggers like Netero, because fuck the character level! His source of power is magic, even he being a weak ass faggot he is still more powerful.

Same with a more powerful mage and some chump like that hair nigger that got shouted to death. The source of the powers matter nothing disregarding the actual character strength and power, faggot. It's called fucking logic.

>>161635151

>Magic
>Logic

AHAHAHAAHAA

>>161635179
Are you this dumb or you're really applying yourself? You can't really think that character A would win against character B because of the source of his powers, disregarding his actual fucking power level.

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>>161635204

sure

>>161634926
That human was enhanced by magic from Age of the Gods retard.

>>161635239
>>161635239
>>161635239
... Superman has a weakness to magic, nigga, it's another thing entirely than someone being more powerful than him because they use magic. In this case, we aren't talking about niggas who have a fucking special weakness against magic.

Gods. You're really this dumb.

>>161635312
Well shit, fucked up the post. My bad.

>>161635312

So you are going to disregard Meruems and Sabers weaknesses? God you are so dumb.

>>161635351
Nah, I am responding the dude that asked "what is more powerful, nen or magic" and saying that it depends entirely on the level of the dude using it. Saber and Meruem is a foregone conclusion to Saber, if he can't touch her.

>ITT dumb people whose only argument is "muh saber can't be hit by regular things"

>>161635455
Well then, what's your argument, genius?

So which Cell forms can beat mereum?

>>161628762
>decently-written shonen villain, sentient bug pondering the morality of humans (good premise but shonen writing limits it)
>retarded waifufaggotry Mary Sue. author renounced making Arthur male because he knew waifufags refuse anything other than "muh pure spirit waifu"

>>161636452
All of them? Even Vegeta was a planetbuster at first appearance.

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Can shiki kill Meruem?

>>161636746
Yes
Shiki can kill Meruem

>>161636746
Instantly

>>161636594
>saber
>jobbed to almost everyone
>mary sue
At least try to make your bait less obvious.

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>>161636594

>>161634926
>Did Saber survive something that destructive that affected her? No?
she did get hit by Ea and keep existing- which is quite impressive

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A fan of both series. But let's face it. Servants are way more powerful than the HxH verse.
Even Archer can generate a nuke-like energy.

>>161637150
>>161637115
>"he badmouthed my waifu it must be bait"
I don't even know what fights she lost and won, I didn't watch recently

>>161634906
No, you.

>>161637805
>didn't watch recently
>recently
>watch
If you at least speedwatch fate, you would know that saber is a fucking jobber that lost most of her fights you dumb colossal idiot.
Even her memes are mostly about her losing against a school teacher.
So yes, that means you were baiting because you were provoking an argument that you couldn't even finish. Embarrassing.

Given how Saber can casually go Match 5+ can Meruem keep up?

>>161637715
humans can fight on par with servants though so that theory is stupid
the entire fate series never makes sense in terms of powerlevels

>>161639196
It's almost like Fatefags are finding some excuses so they don't need to say that Meruem wins the fight when, if the OP wanted someone to dumbly answer "who would win, nigga x someone he can't touch?", he wouldn't have created the fucking thread, yeah?
Oh. Found the reason why.

>>161628762
Meruem.

Pre-nuke gets owned though

Mereum is too fast tbqh

Congratulations, OP. Worst thread on /a/ right now and there are two trap threads currently.

>>161638456
fuck off waifufag. I remember everything it being shit and loved by waifufags, more than enough

Why people are trying to ruin Saber?

rubber nen

>>161639829
success breeds jealousy (and shitposting)

>>161628868
Except Meruem is neither retarded, slow, nor honorable.
He would never let that slow ass attack charge up.

>>161637715
>Archer can generate a nuke-like energy
Gif unrelated, right?

>>161640598
I think it is. Or the nigger don't have a fucking clue about the magnitude of a fucking nuke exploding compared to that little shit Archer did.

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Can any of them beat a high school teacher?

>>161640064
But the question is: can he tank excaliblast?

>>161640833
Yeah, I think he can.

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>>161640064
Excalibur isn't slow though. A swing of her sword is all she needs to get rid off the Cell copycat.

>>161640628
>>161637715
>>161640598
Yeah, that arrow is 50-100 tons tnt tops.
Minature rose nuke was in megatons.

>>161640628
What you expected from powerwank franchise fags?

>>161640974
>powerwank franchise
???????

>>161640934
>Source:My ass

>>161628762
Saber can barely beat fake assassin

>>161640987
Fate

>>161628762
>fatefags spam that Saber wins against a post-nuke Meruem
Can Saber survive a nuke to begin with?

>>161641004
https://youtu.be/bIQr62lZbsM?t=7 50
https://youtu.be/7VANyY87-_Q?t=80 100

Learn something about the world

>>161641037
Good job outing yourself as a newfag.
Nasu hates powerlevels.

>>161641054
Fatefags gonna reply like "muh servant can't be touched by conventional weapon"

>>161641054
With avalon, yes
Without avalon still yes but received heavy damage.

>>161640924
Any excalibur swing that has any respectable damage has her standing with a giant glowing sword for a while.

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>>161641054
And Meruem can?
She survived worse, a point blank attack from EA.

>>161632869
O

>>161635312

>... Superman has a weakness to magic
>have a fucking special weakness against magic.

He's not weak against it, he's just vulnerable to it like anyone else is.
It's like saying he's weak against being punched in the face by Darkseid.

Kyptonite is a weakness. Magic will work on him the same way it works on anyone else with his level of durability depending on the respective series.

It just so happens alot of magical shit tends to work on like an astral level or some shit, so it can at times bypass durability.

>>161641151
>And Meruem can?
Pre rose Meruem literally survived.
Nothing in fate was even close to hypocenter of nuclear explosion, including EA.

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>>161641107
That's wrong though. She doesn't need to stand still to charge Excalibur. She used it twice consecutively against Gilgamesh.

>>161628762
The one who didn't got grabbed by a school teacher.
Saber is a written jobber so Shirou can stand out.

>>161634888
NLF. Shown no proof they've tanked shit on that level before.

She'd die to the nuke.

>>161641259
Like I said, those quick draw excaliburs don't do much damage. The one that destroyed caster needed substantial charging and I'd say that was on par with netero's zero hand which Meruem tanked, although visibly damaged.

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>>161641251
EA is a world ending noble phantasm you dumb mongrel.

Are we talking about saber with avalon or not? Or at least it's passive ability.

>>161641359
Stop speaking out of your ass, faggot. There's nothing that indicates that saber needs to stand still like a fucking super saiyan and charge so that her attack can reach it's full power.

>>161641404
OP is talking about the strongest version of Meruem, so i assume we should also be talking about the strongest version of Saber.

>>161641376
So how many worlds in ended?
>inb4 reality marble of THE DUDE
"Anti-World" is not a description, it's just a cool sounding name.

>>161641359
What?
Zero's hand is not even close as full charged excalibur jesus christ.
Full blast excalibur will destroy the whole place into the smallest atoms.

>>161641376
A world ending noble phantasm who needs a fucking lot of time to charge beyond breaking some of the ground. So what?

>>161641471
There's literally nothing that Meruem can do to Saber if she has Avalon. It's the ultimate barrier. It managed to block EA, what the fuck is Meruem supposed to do against that?

>>161641151
With his aura fully concentrated in the chest, yes.

>>161641445
Then she's an extremely naive and garbage fighter to have ever lost a fight if she can just flick out full powered excaliburs.

>>161628762

Post-nuke Mereum went so fast that he basically stopped time, this was against people who can punch at the speed of sound. Pre-nuke would be more fair.

>>161641548
>"World Ending EA"
>doesn't end shit
>"Impossible to be evaded GAE BOLG"
>being evaded all the time
>"the ultimate barrier AVALON"
>???
Wait hol up I need to activate my almonds for this

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I'll just leave this here.

>>161628762
Saber can level a city right? Or at the very least a city block.

Meruem I'm not sure of his offensive capabilities desu but he can not survive a tactical nuke which I don't even think it took out an entire city.

Saber can literal tank nukes.

>>161641653
Go back to >>>/v/.

>>161628904
>HxH characters don't really feel as superhuman to me as servants
How not? They are faster than sight and move literal tons of weight around before even learning Nen.

>>161641686
>Saber can literally tank nukes
Source: the depths of your ass.

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>>161641653

>>161641653
Unless meruem has GER or he is an omnipotent god then he can't do anyting to saber with avalon.

>>161635035
When you put a character like that in a versus thread it's obviously assumed that they can harm each other, Captain Autism. The same way it goes without saying with Bleach characters.

>>161641756
Yep, meruem can defeat that

>>161641745
Two things: does she not need time to activate the fucking phasing ability of Avalon and doesn't she need to turn it off to attack?

>>161628762
This constitutes as a thread on /a/? THIS is fine by the mods?

>>161639196
She is stronger when she is not a servant

>>161641795
https://youtu.be/K4mZ86kCeVs?t=1h50m

>>161641902
Nigga, this fucking video is three hours long, at least signalize the correct time.

>>161641692
Your just using a shitty logical fallacy.

>>161641804
>how dare people discuss anime characters on the anime board

>>161641804
What part of this thread goes against the sticky if I may ask?

>>161641911
Just copy paste it in your address bar. Or just skip to 1 hour and 50 minutes if you're too lazy to do that.

>>161641941
No.
His post is just shitty bait that doesn't deserve attention.

Read the VN.

>>161641471
The strongest version of her ended the age of the gods

>>161641902
>"She is blocked from all matter of this world".
So she needs to deactivate it to attack Meruem, which open an opportunity to him, who is fast a fuck, to murderfuck her right in the head because he is kind of pragmatic with his fights. And Christ, that was awful to watch.

>>161641914
You think a high school random mage can supply her with enough mana?

Their magic circuits can not begin to compare to hers. She literally has dragon blood.

Not to mention when you summon her she gets reduced stats and weaponry compared to what she had while living.

Again her mana supply is severely reduced.

>>161642014
>this women is my waifu

How when you literally know nothing about her

>>161642210
You have any idea how fast Saber actually is? Especially when using mana burst?

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>>161628762
this BELLISIMO motherfucker can destroy them both

>>161642303
This.

>>161642290
>You have any idea how fast Saber actually is?
Fast enough to not job to a fucking teacher ot fake servant?

>>161642290
Not faster than a teacher

>>161642290
Do you have any idea of how fast Meruem is?

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>>161628762
>It's a power level discussion

>>161642384
kek

>>161642357
Dumb frogposter

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>>161642303
>>161642393
now the question is: who win
Madara VS GER

>>161642293
>>161642362
Oh so you're just trolling? Go read up on her abilities and lore then.

It's basically asking what's the difference between goku using his own power and him using a spirit bomb using only meruems power.

Of course theirs going to be a large difference when you have restrictions like that in place

Also been pointed out he was boosted by magic that no longer even exist at that time. There's a huge difference between modern magic and magic from the age of the gods.

>>161642506
>Go read up on her abilities and lore then
Part of the narrative, just like impossible to be evaded gae, which doesn't mean shit on practice.

>>161640064
>Neither
>3 options
>Shart in mart detected

>>161642582
>>161642624
Calling you out for what you are doesn't change anything. Put more effort into next time.

Me explaining why you're wrong doesn't matter if you're just going to give a low effort bait.

If you really care to know go look it up. But there are massive differences between Arturia as a saber servant, massive restrictions, and her as she was while a living mortal and not summoned into a grail war.

No one even mentioned her spear or the massive boost she receives for certain opponents.

>>161642651
>he didn't know neither is negative form of either

Hi esl

>>161628762
One thing people forget is that Meruem was at least somewhat exhausted and his shell was starting to crack when he got hit by the nuke. Had he been in tip top shape and aware of the nuke it probably would have slightly damaged him at most.

>>161642840
But either is also only used between two choices.

>>161642873
You have autism.

>>161642883
It completely incinerated his carapace and burned off his limbs. Not something a lack of a few cracks would have changed

>>161642840
>americans

>>161642873
Dude, I was arguing on the Meruem's side, but are you unironically retarded, autistic or something like that?

>>161642925
having his aura at full power would have changed everything

>>161642987
"He checkmated me from the start"

Netero wanted to test himself and fight, he didn't need to exhaust Meruem. That explosion was many times more powerful than everything Netero threw at him.

I'm saying that Meruem would beat saber if she didn't have avalon, but you saying that he could ever tank the nuke with minimal damage is just false.

>>161642582
Why?
>speed
Saber is faster than meruem that's for sure, since as confirmed by nasu average servants are at least as fast as jet fighter, saber is not an average servant, not to mention her prana burst will very greatly increase her speed. Meruem can only, what? He couldn't even dodge netero's "faster than sound" punches. Saber is already much faster than netero's punch.
>attacknpower
Full power excaliblast is most likely will destroy a city and perhaps even mountain into atoms as seen how massive excaliblast is in Hollow ataraxia.
>durability
She tanked for a brief of gil's enuma elish in fate route, an attack that much much much more powerful than excaliblast.
And that's still saber as a servant.

>>161643123
>at least as fast as jet fighter
Damn those teachers are sure impressive, faster than saber who is faster than average servant who is faster than a jet.

>>161643169
Yes she can

>>161643123
*cont
Saber with avalon will protect her against all kind of attack.
Even if he by luck able to hurt saber, her passive avalon ability will heal her instantfuckingly. Even if he destroy her heart, avalon will restore her heart into normal instantly
>>161643237
Yup magic from age of the gods are really impressive anon, too bad when he doesn't have the magic he is sooo slow that he couldn't even touch archer, someone who is much slower than saber.

>>161643240
How? The ability of Avalon is literally blocking her of all matter of this world (the video posted a bit above said that), so how she can interact with Meruem when Avalon activated, while he is literally "matter of this world''?

>>161643295
It blocks all destructive forces that dare to harm saber. It doesn't prohibit saber from attacking.

>>161643353
Anon there's absolutely no shit saying about "only whatever the fuck attacks saber", it says with all the words "all matter of this world is blocked", not "all matter wanting to rapefuck saber".

>>161643277
Very impressive speed animation anon.
Sure i'm sure i can find a line of how fast his speed is after the nuke, but i have trouble finding it.

>>161643386
Well, he can turn his aura into photons and is theorized that he can teleport to whatever the photons are because he does that sometimes, but only theory because he is fucking fast enough that the Ants seeing have no way to differentiate of teleport.

>>161643123
>Kuzuki sensei is now faster than a jet plane

>>161643473
he was enhanced by caster

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You know what? Fuck this thread. Can anyone in Fate / Type Moon stop this magician if he wants to reenact Doom World?

>>161643414
>However it is unclear whether it is really a part of this ability, or that Meruem simply catches up by covering extraordinary distances instantly with his immense physical strength.
>>161643430
That's what would the ants gonna see when they see saber's prana burst speed.

>>161643473
Way to ignore >>161643281 buddy

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>>161643603
Wait 5 sec, fate anon is too busy counting worlds destroyed by EA, hearts pierced by GAE and matter ultimately blocked by AVALON.
Please understand.

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You really REALLY don't want to know how hard Saber gets wanked guys, I'm serious.
Saber Proto's half sealed Excalibur is already above Ea in terms of power.

Powerlevelfags are the worst.
They're so retarded they don't even know about the actual abilities of the characters they're talking about.

>>161643902
I was talking about both sides.
That includes you.

>>161643902
You're not any better, cancer.

>Meruem is basically Jackie chun tier

Saber is probably like Vegeta tier during saiyan arc

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Dumb frogposter btfo, based Mods

>>161644054
Now that is some delusion. She has way more hax than he does, as Type-Moon is a hax-verse, but given that magic in DBZ-rules is just nonsense that stops working if the opponent is stronger than the user, I don't even know if that would do her any good.

Even then, Type-Moon isn't that strong from a hax perspective compared to some ludicrous shit in both western and Japanese media (like fucking d&d for example). And obviously, it's pretty weak when it comes to just powerlevel bullshit.

>>161644185
TM has some fun hax shit like Wallachia and some DAAs in general but most of all MEoDP.
Which suffer from the whole "you have to be somewhat fast to use them and be able to hit your opponent" factor. And don't give me any of the "they can cut the speed of their opponent so he can stop moving type and they can just cut away all of the opponent's advantages" shit.

TM is slow as fuck and gets speed blitzed by almost everything else. No amount of "Instinct" or Mind of Eye will help there.

>>161644185
Actually have to correct myself- sometimes it stops working when the opponent is stronger than the user, sometimes it doesn't, now that I'm thinking about it. So it's incredibly inconsistent, like almost everything in DBZ.

But yeah, Meruem is still far below Jackie Chun in raw stats (who blew up the fucking moon) and Saber is nowhere near Vegeta, even just by showings if you want to discredit powerscaling.

I don't really know why people like wanking Meruem so much when he's so much weaker than many shonen characters in even the big three. Ywach would be a much more interesting enemy for Type/Moon bullshit,
because he's actually way above them in physical stats and can keep up when it comes to bullshit "I win because I say so" hax.

>>161644378
Yeah, I know. In raw stats Type Moon is low as shit. Even compared to shit like Nardo (where a substantial amount of characters can outhax almost any Fate character and certain characters can just effortlessly speedblitz) or Bleach, which went insane with it's speed- and physical strength powerscaling and kept adding on more retarded hax for no reason. LOL I know your name so now I can rename you to ant which makes you one in all but physical appearance because that's so sensical

>>161644477
Try telling any of that /fgog/ sometime.
>but shiki can cut the hax away from the monk before it hits her because precognition and shit
>and she's in a servant container which means she can move at hypersonic levels

>>161628762
since we don't know how nen works against something like a servent, i'll give it to meruem. he tanked netero's zero without a nen barrier, he was pretty much the strongest character in the series except for maybe super gon

>>161632869
hisoka is weak though, he wouldnt have been able to kill any of the 3 chimera ants, he couldn't even kill chrollo dumbass

although he's bounced back stronger now, he can probably defeat chrollo but the ants are out of his league

>>161644641
Can he beat netero now?

>>161644516
I understand your point, but once again
>Speedscaling
Makes hypersonic levels almost nothing in comparison to Bleach's higher tiers. And precog doesn't mean anything if the user can't, you know, move before they get hit. Spodermang, for example, had that problems a few times before, even if his relatively weak precog gets wanked to hell and back (by writers and fans). The only time when the TM characters get really good physical stats is in CCC where they're faster than light and shit.

And that directly puts it in the late DBZ / Marvel / DC / SMT / who knows what else levels, which is even worse for TM.

>>161644641
Chrollo could have killed the king

>>161644680
hell no, his golden dama thing was just too fast and powerful for hisoka not to get fucked up, and zero would vaporize him

>>161644686
Again, try convincing /fgog/ of ANY of that.
Some of them legit argued that TM can keep up with Dies Irae.

>>161628762
I think Meruem takes this one, the reason for is I don't even see the Holy Grail being able to control him, like it does with Saber.

>>161644694
what makes you say that? i feel like with some kind of special ability it could be possible, but if you compare raw nen power, the king squishes chrollo like a tiny little spider

>hxh haters think Meruem is weaker than Master fucking old as hell Roshi.

He really is as strong as perfect cell

>>161642471
doesn't GER still win because it basically breaks the rules (of reality)? all he has to do is "reduce madara to zero" and he's just completely gone

>>161644790
10 years of prep.

People actually think Saber is faster... kek

Meruem is at least as fast as Cheetu, who should well faster than Saber. And that's pre-nuke too.

>>161644835
explain

>>161644812
If he was really that strong, then why didn't he just nuke everyone that could be a problem for the ants from space and destroy their cities and shit? Why did he get so fucked up by a nuke?

why isn't he part of the tournament of power, but Muten Roshi is?

>>161644877
I'm not him, i was shitposting

>>161644812
okay, master roshi is pushing it, but meruem is absolutely not as strong as perfect cell. perfect cell was stronger than freiza, who was perfectly capable of destroying planets with little effort, and cell was at least twice as strong.

meruem was strong as fuck but no character in hxh so far is strong enough to destroy the planet

>190 replies
Fucking why

>>161644922
it's fun to discuss powerlevels for a lot of people, even if it's largely pointless

why are you on 4chan in the first place, and why did you feel the need to comment?

Fucking Why

>>161644828
Depends. Madara is mostly just powerlevels and shit, with theoretical huge levels of hax and huge regen, but GER could technically do that, if it does its react on its own outside of time move again.

It's not unbeatable, though. It got punked by Over Heaven, for example.
Ah yeah by the way, Over Heaven DIO and Jotaro are the two strongest characters in Jojo now, because they just couldn't fucking let Jonathan beat DIO because "muh part three"

>>161644956
Madara has sharingan and rinnigan.

>>161644956
>saying a non canon character is stronger than a canon character

huh?

Meruem couldn't even defeat above average fighters in one piece, let alone naruto or bleach.
Saying meruem's power is comparable to any fighter after piccolo's arc in dragon ball is genuinely retarded.

>Meuem razed a small mountain with a random blast
>Strongest thing we've seen of Excalibur is of that range
imagine if Meruem actually used full power in that state

>>161644999
but theoretically, GER can just reduce the sharingan, rinnigan, the effects, and madara himself to zero, because that's what it is. it's literally a 100% broken power.

>>161645038
You don't understand the full scope of sharingan then

>>161645006
this is correct but this is him vs saber not him vs dbz chars

you should seriously ignore anyone who compares meruem to dbz, he's nowhere near as strong as even freiza

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Could be a good fight. They are both kings but one is human and the other is not. No one has actually tried cutting down Meruem only smack him around. So I'd like to think Excalibur the blade itself could harm him. While her Noble Phantasm Excalibur would be useless for obvious reasons.

Fucking idiots, the whole deal about Kuzuki and Caster is that the dynamic of the master and servant were reversed. Most masters are magicians and most servants are warriors. The subversion was that the Caster isn't a fighter, so she got someone who was and buffed them to be able to fight other servants. IT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT.

Meruem would lose to many servants. Fake Assassin might have trouble, but true Assassin would have his heart easily. Gil and Emiya summoned as Archer's aren't the best for melee fights but EA is a sure kill and UBW's strength depends on the Noble Phantasms he has stored.
In F/SN and F/Z Saber takes an attack from a Lancer that gimps her future performance. It's not until Rin gets ownership of her in UBW of when she goes Alter in HF we see her not handicapped by Shirou's lacking prana supply.
Meruem's pure powerlevel isn't enough to block the Gay Bulge, and Diarmuid's own Meruem full stop.
Both Rider's NP's are questionable, but Medusa's other abilities such as Blood Fort and Petrification makes her a legit threat even without riding. F/Z caster is shit, and Rule Breaker is either useless or incredibly broken.

Not counting other shit, like how Nero hax or Robin Hood's 2 hit would kill him just like he died in HxH.

>>161645071
>>161645006
>>161644915
Then why does he look like perfect cell?

Don't you retards understand that it's a deconstruction of shounen big bads? That's what he is. A perfect cell in the middle of HxH.

>>161645061
i've read the manga but it ended what, 3 years ago? i don't remember exactly what you're referring to that could beat ger.

no rinnegan power couldnt be reduced to zero, and no sharingan power i remember couldnt be reduced to zero. izanami (the internal trance thing itachi used on kabuto) would work, but knowing giorno's mental strength he may escape. then all he has to do is reduce madara to zero.


GER can literally just delete anything. it's
B R O K E N.

>>161644999
So? He doesn't really use his rinnegan for many things outside of Limbo and Chibaku Tensei, I believe, while he could abuse it much, much more. Same problem as Sasuke, really.

Further things in his arsenal are the TSB, which would kill Giorno on impact, but he doesn't really need them given that a single punch or even a thrown shuriken would do that just fine. Same story with the Staff.
EMS just gives him Susanno (same story as TSB), Amaterasu (once again, same story), super Meteors (third time's the charm) and Tsukiyomi, which might be his best bet.
Maybe those sealing items, if he didn't just throw them away for no reason.

Really, he should have much more hax than that, given So6P + Rinnegan, like the double helix sword that can apparently destroy the moon, but he doesn't really use them, which was the point of my first post anyways.

>>161645159
>Then why does he look like perfect cell?
Because Togashi is a DBfag.

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>>161645159
>he looks vaguely like cell
>he has origins similar to cell
>he must be as strong as perfect cell!

(you)

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>>161645038

>>161645191
>>161645170
But yeah, I guess Izanami / Izanagi could work.

>>161645208
It's obvious he's being ironic anon

>>161633000
Herc walls her hard

>>161645191
whoever moves first wins. if madara decides he wants giorno dead, he can move waaaay faster than him and just off him. not sure if ger saves him.


but if GER comes out, madara is deleted. that's what it does.

>>161645143
He literally took thousands of hits from Netero's Buddha (that hits harder than any servant) and was unscathed. How will an Assassin even pierce his skin, lol.

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>>161645229
>irony

>>161644641
chrollo cheated anyways

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>>161645256
Like this, you dumb shitposter.

>>161645284
i won't deny it but i still strongly think he couldn't defeat any of the top 4 ants

Here's my own question: Could super gon have defeated meruem? He defeated pitou with practically no difficulty, which makes me think he might have been able to defeat the king as well.

his arm was only cut because he didn't care, and his gaurd was 100% down

>>161645256
Assassin creates a copy of his heart which is then magically switched with the real deal before being crushed.
Or was it the copy that affects the real deal when crushed? Either way, he loses his heart due to hax. Not even he survives that.

>>161645347
No. He was only as strong as the old guy

>>161645256
By using zabaniya dumbass.
He doesn't need to touch meruem's skin to crush his heart.

>>161645373
It's the copy that affects the real deal.
Just like a voodoo doll. Hence why it's called a curse.

>>161645377
why say that?

meruem took tons of hits from golden buddha and barely ached, pitou took one hit and got knocked back what would have been very far, but was for the most part unharmed.

gon defeated pitou in like 6 blows total, and was able to completely trounce her in speed

>>161645300
this is a magical ability you retard, I'm talking about striking power (because that's what Saber will rely on)

>>161642471
You know what I really want to see, though? Madara break dancing his way through the HGW, punking everyone, even his master and the BTFO'ing the bitchy little corrupted cup.

And somehow still getting his wish, because there's no reincarnations of him or his mancrush here to stop him, and no theoretical alien grandma and her weirdo shadow child either (that is technically his uncle?).

>>161628762
Saber is not a threat, Meruem would effortlessly speedblitz her. Bitch got choked by a schoolteacher.

>>161645382
Exacly how does this apply to Saber again?

>>161645433
You were talking about assassin retard.

Who from HxH could defeat Kid Goku?

Starting Goku from the first episode basically is as strong as a hunter.

>>161645422
Wait, I'm wondering: What'd happen if, for example, Mayuri from Bleach was his target, but Mayuri pulled that move where he replaces all his organs with dummies beforehand? Would it still affect his real heart? Or his dummy heart? Would it even work? Or would Bleach rules be in power here, where enough Reiatsu makes hax attacks unusable?

>>161645475
You were saying that Meruem is weak because even Assassin would rip his heart. My question was to make a point that it doesn't mean Saber or any other servant would be capable of doing the same using an actual strike He's way too durable for them.

>>161645433
>How will an Assassin even pierce his skin, lol
You were just talking about assassin you retard.

>>161645504
hmm. are we talking goku right after bulma found him or goku post king piccolo. when

honestly the top 4 chimera ants and netero could probably kill him either way, noone weaker than that i'd wager

>>161644922
HxHfags and StayNightfags that's why.

>>161645504
Goku pre-22nd Tenkaichi Budokai could be defeated by Netero or Meruem, probably even Razor, after that it becomes tricky with him moving faster than the eye can track

>>161645544
That wasn't me.
Also he was saying that true assassin would have his heart easily, not ripping it. Jesus christ learn to read idiot.

>>161645562
That was the fucking point, I was referring that he could only do it with magic, not with an actual strike... because he was using his vulnerability to Zabaniya as a point to prove he's "too weak for servants"

>>161645544
>He's way too durable for them.
No he's not. Anyone can beat that bitch ass ant faggot.

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>these retards still argueing about assasin and meruem 2 hours later

losers just shut the fuck up

>>161645652
Show me anything that isn't Ea or Excalibur that hits harder than Netero's Buddha

>>161645677
You're wanking Netero's Buddha too much, when it's pretty much piss tier compared to servants.
Hercules for example, would rip apart both Netero and Meruem.

>>161645527
I don't know about this mayuri girl and her power, never read bleach. But if the heart is still working like usual albeit in other place i think it will still affect the real one. Maybe.

>>161645677
Are you trolling? netero's buddha isn't even as strong as a nuclear explosion. Of which Gilgamesh's personal pimp plane has at least 500 stored under the fucking seat.

Hercules could beat meruem
Atila could beat meruem
Lancelot could beat meruem
Gawain
Arjuna
Karna
Tamamo
Iskander

Hell fucking Astolfo could beat meruem. Meruem's strength/durability even after surviving the nuke is barely C rank for a servant.

Not to mention he sucks dick at dealing with poison/toxins so any caster or even Robin Hood would stomp his shit in before he knew what to do.

>>161645769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ye2IMmWa7g

0:25-1:00
No servant can hit this hard and Meruem tanked like they were nothing (not even a scratch)

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>>161645804
>Mayuri
>Girl

I mean, sure, if he so wishes.

He's basically Mengele and just gets away with being a horrible monster because he happens to be on the right side.

I asked because he goes against a voodoo dude in that instance that also does the whole organ crushing thing, but Mayuri beats that because he decided to replace all his organs with dummies as a precaution thirty minutes before hand. No further explanation as to how or why he really did it, he just did.

Then he gave the voodoo dude a lecture on the concept of perfection and administered him a drug that made him perceive time at a slower rate, meaning his victim had to sit there for tens of thousands of years waiting for a blade to hit his face and kill him.

>>161645932
So you ARE trolling?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfTGkrSSpZA

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>>161645932
Am I supposed to be impressed?
That shit is fucking weak. Rider's Bellerophon make's Netero look like a joke. Hell, Archer can pull much more impressive shit like Hrunting and Caladbolg.
Oh and btw
saber beat them both

>>161646084
>20-30m wide explosion
>Meruem tanked thousands of the the attacks that were posted (literally felt like a child's attacks to him)
>Meruem got even stronger post-nuke
ok

>>161646219
>Any of those attacks, nearly the same radius or intensity as caladbolg
>Implying

Meruem would be ripped to shreds by caladbolg. Any proper servant with a strength above D would destroy him in a 1 v 1 fight.

>>161628762
Saber speedblitzes the living fuck out of Meruem

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>>161645932
Is that impressive? If it's just enough power to punch big holes in the ground,the start of Apocrypha had those golems pulling the same strength and a B average servant takes them out effortlessly. HxH fans, is this guy like the Jetfag of your threads?

>>161646332
Mereum is faster then Goku lol

>>161646505
No he isn't.

>>161646605
Kid Goku is no where near his speed level

>>161646498
Imagine being delusional enough to believe the golem's attacks are equal to Netero's, lol
Also what does the weak golems being defeated have anything to do with this one

>>161646293
The radius and crater the 99th hand caused was just as big, intensity is irrelevant because it's a physical attack while Archer's is an explosion. But the end result is the same. It's worth mentioning that by "thousands" I mean it's the number of exchanges similar to the one in the video, not the punches themselves, lol.

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this thread is a shitshow

post-nuke Meruem dishes out Excalibur-level blasts while not even aware of it (imagine him going all out)

>>161646884
video related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAeeY8MO4dk

>>161646865
Reminds me of that Shinji vs Meruem thread from a while back.

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>>161646865
At this point I'm sure everyone here is just shitposting.
>powerlevel threads

>>161646884
>>161646920
weak

>>161647083
it's literally just as strong as Excalibur, so unless you also think it's, u r dumb

also
>Meruem can casually spam it, blast shown wasn't even his full power
>Saber needs to charge to full power to pull off a feat of this magnitude

>>161647202
nah it's weak as fuck
weak to the point that it's making me sleepy

>>161647202
this is excalibur's power, exact copy of Meruem's blast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zDt40QiY_4

>>161646704
Not nearly as big or nearly as intense, as mentioned above golems from fate could create a similar effect and weren't even a challenge for a B rank strength servant. LOL Mereum is literally worse than a golem.

>>161647291
it ain't the same

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Meruem


http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Saber_(Fate/stay_night)


Thank me later

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Nen is magic so yes, Meruem would destroy Saber. However, Shiki could beat Meruem.

>>161647346
Meruem: City level durability
Saber: Mountain level attack potency

interesting

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>>161647346
>vsbattles wiki

>>161644680
Kek, Netero's buddha is wayyyy too fast for Hisoka. 99th hands would solo the entire ryodan including Hisoka and Chlloro

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>>161647346
>vsbattles wiki

>>161643603
solomon could most likely

but solomon is big G playing self insert so hes cheating

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>>161628762
Meruem has no chance. Outside of some of the more complex abilities HxH universe is weak as fuck.