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All those times Naruto (series) lied about something

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>chidori is an assassination technique

Yeah, not with that loud ass buzzing noise that can be heard from the stands.
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>>161465080
it's fast and deadly
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>>161465080
Well, Kakashi successfully assassinated Kakuzu with it.
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>Itachi loves his brother
So much so in fact, that he traumatized his brother, made him obsess over killling him and guaranteed that he would defect to look for more power
B R A V O
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>hard work doesn't mean shit if you don't have supernatural powers and are the descendant of super famous super strong people.

gee, just like real life
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Could MUH CLAPPING beat Madara Uchiha?
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>>161465480
I actually just finished that anime. Lot of cool shit overall, but the clap is such a stupid move for a supposed Master assassin.

and the MC trap scenes made me feel funny
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>>161465528
They certainly made my dick feel funny too.
A "trap character" with an actual personality and backstory, really nice.

>that episode where they build a toy tank and try to look up the girls skirts
>that episode where they steal a rocket and go to space
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>>161465080
Given it's a lighting technique it is very hard to block. Even when you hear it coming it just kills you most of the time.
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>>161465080
Come to think of it, why did Kakashi teach an assasination technique to a kid who was gonna fight another kid? I mean, Chidori was Sasuke's trump card against Gaara, so using it on him meant killing him.
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>>161465080
>Naruto is even remotely decent series
biggest lie of them all
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>>161465378
I just finished reading naruto, now that I think about it, did it flip the popular shounen trope of "hard work and guts" on its head? As time went on and naruto began to one up sauske it wasnt cause of work, it was cause of his lineage and more and more of relying on the nine-tails. Sure he had to work hard to train it and such, as well as the nature mode or whatever, but in the end it wasnt just him out strength-ing everyone on just hard work alone
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>>161465989
>Naruto isn't vastly superior to One Piece
biggest lie of them all
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>>161466059
>shit is superior to piss
Sure thing, Narutard
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>>161465836
just shoot lightning
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>>161465080
> these people are real human beings with normal human emotions
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>>161466124
Well, electricity in general is pretty erratic. It requires a massive charge just to strike the ground, let alone make it go where you want. That's why you see so many techniques that enhance objects. Maybe a paired technique that charges your target, and then generates a huge burst of the opposite charge. It would never miss.
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>>161466183
ehehe sorry
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>>161466033
Everything in Shipuden is absolute shit, everything.
The original series was only good during chunin exams, then it became shitier every chapter.
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>>161465080
>tumblr

Even more reason to permaban Narutards
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>>161466033
At that point no one cared about what message Naruto was trying to say anymore. Maybe massacring your entire village because muh brother is the message
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>>161465080
ninja's are quiet assassins
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>>161465951
They saw what it took to get past Gaara's ultimate defense in his fight with Rock Lee. The Chidori was the best choice in terms of speed and penetrative force, plus it only works perfectly when used with the Sharingan.
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>>161465080
>you need a Sharingan to use Chidori because of how fast you need to move
>whole bunch of characters moving faster than genin Sasuke without a Sharingan
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>obito was the coolest guy
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>>161465989
I don't fault any series in Shonen Jump for having shitty stories. The work schedule alone makes it hell to keep a coherent story, couple that with the need to drag it out for so long and all stories inevitably go to shit.
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>>161467592
But sasuke wasn't nowhere near as fast as rock.

It was just a stupid power that he could have seen coming from a hundred miles away and negated because..well...sand beats lightning.

Gaining more speed so that he can dart around the ring and improving his fire breath so that it's more powerful and hotter and that he could cover him up completely WHILE throwing explosive kunais to keep him off guard would have been smarter.

Him just becoming as fast as rock lee after not even a month of training and copying his techniuqes was retarded.
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>>161465278
>implying the entire Kakuzu fight wasn't a bullshit asspull.
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>>161465951
Why didn't Kakashi teach Sasuke the Rasengan, a technique superior to the Chidori in every way especially in terms of chakra consumption?
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>>161465080
>ninja
Every time someone calls themself or anyone else a "ninja" in Naruto, they're lying.
They're all wizards who are in really good shape.
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>>161467804
Chidori was easy to learn, Rasengan was hard mode. Sasuke can't do that in a month.

Also, why was Sasuke on a fucking mountain that Kakashi tried to climb one-handed?
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>>161465080
Was Kaguya the worst thing Kishi ever wrote? He literally pulled her out of his ass at last minute because Madara was too strong.
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>>161467629
No, you fucking retard. You needed sharingan because you would get rekt otherwise not being able to see enemies attacks.
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>>161466033

Naruto is the son of the 4th hokage, and his mother is part of a prestigious bloodline. He is also a direct descendant of Rikudo-sennin's students.

So, actually yes. Hard work means absolutely fuck all. TALENT is how you get through life. Thanks Kishi
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>>161467629
>you need a Sharingan to use Chidori because of how fast you need to move
Wrong. You need a Sharingan to use Chidori so you don't get tunnel vision from the speed you're moving at.]
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>>161467732
Gaara specialises in a range combat though, he also has no probably simultaneously attacking and defending. His speed on the other hand wasn't that good. So Susuke charging head on with a powerful penetrating jutsu was his best shot,
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>>161467732
Never even thought of that, you could just cook Gara alive inside of his ball
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>>161467979
Why would a Chidori make you go faster? Just move at your own pace and normally stab the fucker once you're close
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>>161467979
>>161467936
>tunnel vision is only a problem for Chidori users
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>>161467969
Talent isn't the only thing that matters. There's also luck.
Like everything to do with Jiraiya. If Naruto hadn't decided to develop the sexy jutsu or Jiraiya wasn't a huge pervert, Naruto wouldn't have learned the Rasengan, how to summon toads, or sage jutsu.
None of that had to do with his bloodline. He just got lucky.
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>>161465080
Wasn't it supposed to get stronger the more distance you travel before connecting with it? God, naruto was the worst piece of shit.
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>>161468169
>Like everything to do with Jiraiya. If Naruto hadn't decided to develop the sexy jutsu or Jiraiya wasn't a huge pervert,
You honestly think Naruto's godfather wasn't going to teach him stuff?
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>>161468266
>godfather
yet another kishi retcon
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>>161468169
Why didn't Kakashi teach Naruto the Rasengan or any summoning techniques?
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>>161468266
You've got a point there, but Jiraiya was still only Naruto's godfather because Minato was put in Jiraiya's team by random chance.
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>>161467804
Because Chidori is really, really good at piercing walls and armor, both of which Gaara had.
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I think that the boost in velocity Sasuke had from chidori was more or less like a bastardized (and much, much weaker) Lightining Armor from the Raikage. So, as he wasn't accustomed to the suddenly jump in speed (and never will be, because it will always be a bit faster than his normal speed), instead of habitually training on that speed like Lee, he develops tunnel vision, hence the need of the Sharingan.
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>>161468492
Are you dumb? Jiraiya trained Minato like he trained Naruto (and thinking he would be the child of prophecy), Minato too was his successor with the Frog Contract and his disciple, it's more than just "a little guy I train with his team".
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Worst of Naruto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best of one piece
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>>161471642
you clearly haven't read the war arc

that was so disgusting it made me vomit
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>>161471642
you seem really desperate here have a (you)
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>>161467856
I have a theory about this. Near the chunin exams, Kishimoto was intending to make Naruto into an actual procedural show where ninjas did ninja stuff as in ninja lore (i.e. traps, shuriken, camouflage, standard missions) and a Sengoku Jidai-type war with the Land of Sound as the climax

But somewhere along the line, seeing the response to the chakra magic bullshit (think Naruto vs Gaara) his editors relegated all the real ninja stuff to the filler anime arcs and made him write more over the top DBZ-type bullshit. Eventually the bullshit started to blur lines between what is actually considered ninjutsu in the real world and """"""ninjutsu"""""". Add chakra, eyefags, DARKNESS, ayylmaos and you get the shitshow that is current naruto.
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>>161467928
yes

madara was handled very poorly too ("I'M THE MASTERMIND BEHIND ALL YOUR PROBLEMS HAHAHAHA")
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>>161465278
That entire fight was such bullshit.
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>>161465334
Uchiha's are not known for their good ideas
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>>161467732
Also Rock Lee lost to Gaara, so expending most of your training time to become as good as some dude that LOST against Gaara seems like a bad dea.
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>>161467969
So Neji was right.
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>>161465080
>Naruto lectures Neji that there's no such thing as destiny and you can make up your own path
>Naruto is child of prophecy
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>>161472845
lmao
shounen is such a fucking joke
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>>161471887
>ayylmaos
Wait

what
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>>161473028
Stupid name given to Ootsukis by some retards here, don't worry.
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Why didn't they just give Gai an artificial leg like they gave Naruto an artificial arm
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>>161474889
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>>161468266
>You honestly think Naruto's godfather wasn't going to teach him stuff?
If he wasn't going to be around for the first twelve miserable years of his life, why expect anything else?
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>>161465080
>Jiraya, Kakashi and Sandaime never told to Naruto who was his father
>Kabuto couldn't find Jiraya's corpse but managed to find Deidara's one
>Orochimaru struggles to acquire a Sharingan when Danzo has 10 sharingans on a single arm
>Shino: "I never lost a battle in my life"
>Gaara:"Behold my ultimate defense"
>Kakashi:"Oi Sasuke, you can't exceed the number of usage for Chidori"
>Genjutsu isn't the most powerful type of Jutsu
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>>161476742
>Genjutsu isn't the most powerful type of Jutsu

Idk about that. Eight Gates is pretty powerful.
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>>161476886
So powerful that not even ninja Jesus could heal Guy's leg after he kicked with it.
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>>161472104
That's why Tobirama tried to pacify those psychos by making them the "military police" whose only job was to look after themselves. Uchihas are literally and canonically insane.
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>This is a series about Ninjas
>Ninja tools are useful
>With enough training, anybody can become a great Ninja
>If a Jinchuuriki gets their Biju extracted, they invariably will die
>Opening the 8th gate kills you
>Eye prowess is a rare trait
>Jarring technological differences between towns and nations
>Ninja villages exist as armies for each of the large nations, when in fact individual members from those villages could single handedly overthrow any country
>the kages need to be the strongest Ninjas of their villages, when in fact they spend most of their time doing office work

Just off the top of my head. Impressive, specially considering Naruto was supposed to be a manga about food at some point.
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>>161476988
Should have just executed them all then and there.
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>>161476988
So how come Tobirama created so many forbidden jutsu but was never on par with his brother?
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>>161471642
Other way around, my friend.
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>>161472004
The world didn't kill Rin Obito I did muhahaha!
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>>161466237
This. Naruto had a good start. Zabuza, forest of death, chunin exam fights. Naruto constantly made Sasuke look like a bitch by showing some balls. Only got worse after the rescue bullshit.
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>>161476988
being task with the police force was a respectable position and they had their own patch of land
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>>161476988
>>161477470
The Uchiha are more trouble than they're worth.
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>>161477525
A simple mandatory lobotomy could probabaly fix all that
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>>161465951
BECAUSE LIGHTNING COUNTERS EARTH STYLE YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>161477525
in fairness it was all according to black zetsu's plan to revive Kaguya. I wonder if the Uchiha clan does die off then would indra or whatever soul go to a Hyuuga clan member?
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>>161467697
This is the smartest person on /a/
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>>161477664
gaara's sand is not earth style, it's a variation of magnet style
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>>161472845
>Naruto lectures Neji on fate and destiny
>Neji dies as a servant of the root clan

pottery
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>>161479738
>*as a servant of the root clan protecting a root clan member (Naruto)
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>>161467969
>talent
but naruto has zero talent
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>>161477280
He was the runt of the litter.
You can outwork talent, but when talent works hard, there's nothing you can do.
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>>161477358
I implanted the Rinnegan into Pain hahahahahah
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>>161477280
you're talking as if he was a complete weakass

even without being able to use wood, tobirama was still one of the strongest in history (confirmed by madara)
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>>161472031
not as much as Hidan's
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>>161479816
but guy with 7 gates is definitely more powerful than kakakakakashi at any point in the story
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>>161465278
Yeah after his fucking student did all the hard work.
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>>161479904
>hard work
lel

remember kakuzu forgetting the fact that he can use elemental techniques and going to fight kakashi with taijutsu instead?

it was one of the biggest retard moments in this shit series
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>>161477358
Obito was also a retard.
>It's not because of Rin I am doing this
>Okay it was
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>>161479902
Guy would be fucking nothing compared to Obito not he not been crushed by the boulder.

His fucking eye haxes plus his own version of Susanoo is too OP.
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>>161471887
I unironically liked the Part 1 fillers. Naruto is better as a wacky MoTW series about Naruto doing wacky ninja missions with his friends.
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>>161479967
And being a fucking little shit all the while. Seriously, Naruto was a complete fucking brat when he was a kid, just awesome.
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>>161479936
>remember kakuzu forgetting the fact that he can use elemental techniques

The best part was during the war. Hiruzen's nickname was the fucking professor, yet the stupid dipshit when fighting Tobi, instead of using the counter element to overpower him, used the exact element to cancel it out.
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>>161479967
me too. it would have been cool to watch ordinary ninja take down akatsuki monsters with cunning and strategy instead of the bullshit asspull battle we got in shippuden

deidara vs gaara and sasori vs kankuro are my favorites though
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>>161479948
It's absolutely fucking insane to think that these supposed trained and hardened ninjas lose their fucking minds when a comrade dies in battle. Like they go into it knowing that is a possible outcome but when shit hits the fan they completely disregard their missions and mentally breakdown despite being trained for exact such scenarios.
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>Wanting a message in your shounen

You guys are the cancer killing shounen.
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>>161480015
hiruzen was a senile old idiot

he used the the fucking >>>shadow clone shuriken technique to try attack 10-tails obito

the retardedness of that act was beyond measurement
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>>161466033
Naruto cheated hard work by abusing shadow clones to train 200 times faster than everyone else. This was only possible because Naruto has a magic fox that gives him broken power.
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>>161479757
>>161479738
I will love the anime if Boruto ever points out the bullshit in Naruto's counter remark to Neji.

I bet it will come from Mitsuki.
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>>161480071
Well, if he began trash talking Naruto it would be just Mitsuki excellent genetic acting like it should. After all, he came from this absolute madman.
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>>161480067
Disregarding the Nine Tails we have it hammered into our heads over and over how massive Naruto's chakra pool is compared to other genin and even jonin and he is naturally talented in learning jutsu period. He mastered sage jutsu in days where as Jiraiya couldn't do that in years and even with the sage frogs he still got the frog features.
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>>161480035
not our fault kishi spent part 1 with the hard work vs talent concept and proceeded to completely dismantle that in shippuden
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>>161467804
Because Sauce already has experience with moulding elemental chakra (Katon), and it synergizes with his eyes (rather he needs it to use it properly). He also has to train his speed up to use it, which the fight with Rock Lee shows that it does work against Gaara.
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>>161480133
>naruto
>talented
>mastered sage jutsu in days

everyone including sasuke and boruto acknowledged that naruto has no talent. he literally had to use shadow clones to get sage mode and even then it failed to harm the tendo pain

if jiraiya had naruto's energy levels he would be more powerful than hashirama
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>>161480198
work ethic is a talent in itself
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>>161480133
That massive chakra pool is courtesy of his Uzumaki genes.
He is a fucking snowflake.

>had to use shadow clones to get sage mode
Jiraiya spent decades and still had to rely on the toad elders to use sage mode.
Naruto only had a few days and was forced to use clones because the male elder couldn't latch on to his back because of Kurama.
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>>161465080
>you must learn 1000 techniques before you're qualified to run for hokage
Or you know, our lord and creator could just laze the fuck out and give you one use god genes
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>>161480283
Perks of being Super Ninja Aryan Ubermensch Uzumaki Jesus with a chakra beast riding shotgun.
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Am I the only one who thinks Pain and Madara were totally right and justified in their actions?

Pain
>says humans have proved through their actions that they are incapable of understanding themselves and achieving true peace (correct)
>says humans are dumb and need to be frightened into pacifism (literally what happened during WW2, fear of nukes now stops a major war from breaking out)
>calls out five countries and konoha on their economically motivated warmongering (correct)

Madara
>as long as someone wins there will be a salty loser who will perpetuate hatred (objectively true)
>I'll use a genjutsu that will create a world where everyone wins and there's no hatred (objectively true)

Naruto
>NO UR WRONG N000B I WILL NOT GIVE UP CUZ IM FINNA BE HOKAGE N SHEIT

this was the point when I started hating naruto
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>>161466033
Naruto didnt flip anything, kishi just threw his story away for scale. And dont forget, Naruto is actually a talentless hack DESPITE having all the bloodline bullshit, an insult to his father and his mother through and through
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>>161480322
Everyone knows that the only one truly correct is Orochimaru.
>I will do whatever the fuck I want
>look I fucked your village
>look I fucked your hokage
>look I killed some children
>I am too useful to be killed now
>let me just dick around on your village
>I have a child now, see this fucking kid? It's mine, and will learn how to be a ninja in a village that I killed one hokage and waged a fucking invasion against.
>kek

Still a better father than Sasuke, though.
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>>161480322
>akatsuki with pain's rinnegan was the only way the small, constantly bullied nation of amegakure could threaten the five countries
>ends up dying to revive people of one of those 5 countries that ravaged his own for years

kishimoto is fucking heartless
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>>161480322
So you're saying Madara is a communist? Can't be war if there are no people left.
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>>161480391
orochimaru is the true gangsta

>have all his horrific crimes pardoned because jobbed around for five minutes in the war
>the true strongest ninja of this generation are incapable of killing or harming him

toppest kek
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>>161480027
If I remember correctly, there were some panels where it was explained something about Uchiha brain chemicals and their connections to the eyes. It was something that Uchihas have stronger feelings of love than normal and that was linked to the Sharingan.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>161480426
I'd say trapped the world in a matrix full of positive events is the best way to create guaranteed peace
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>>161480027
it's almost like using poorly trained children in war is a terrible idea
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>>161480463
yes tobirama researched it and told sasuke about that when he was revived
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>>161480443
>one of the worse traitors of Konoha's entire history
>just strolls on the Hokage's office unannounced and with a smug smile
Truly an absolute madman.
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>>161480019
deidara was the best akatsuki. sasuke should have rightfully died right there
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>>161480495
Yeah, so that's why Uchihas goes mad when they lose someone they love.
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>>161480525
OG as fuck

>you two little bitchmade faggots aren't even on my level yo
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>>161480391
don't forget him coming to congratulate the kid he nearly murdered several times on his wedding
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>>161467969
Did all you forget the absolute best part of Naruto?

This fucker right here was on par with Madara. He worked hard and because of that was able to stand up to what was essentially a god.
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>>161480342
this

>his father has the highest scores in the history of the ninja academy, and is a greater prodigy that itachi
>the son is a dead-last loser who can only do one technique

imagine how much people would make fun of naruto if the fourth stayed alive
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>>161476742
>Orochimaru struggles to acquire a Sharingan when Danzo has 10 sharingans on a single arm

Orochimaru not only wanted the eyes you fuck, he also wanted the body of an Uchiha because without it the eyes fuck you up. Well that was the case at first with Kakashi until the time skip, he then could abuse normal Sharingan as much as he wanted and only Magekyo fucked him up, though in the ninja war he abused Kamui without side effects.

Also Danzo had access to many eyes because he was part of the conspiracy to kill the clan.
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>>161480636
did you forget guy dying from the after effects
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>>161480595
The best part: the one recording that shit is the grandson of the man he was responsible for making kick the bucket.

Top kek.
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>>161466033
>>161466237
>>161467245
>>161467969
>>161480342
>retards thought Naruto was about hard work

It was literally never about that you mongoloids,Naruto wasn't about power it was about people accepting you for who you are. You do realize that nobody liked Naruto because they thought he was the fox? the most powerful creature they knew of? Yet they never cared about him.

It's funny that you fuckos can't realize that Naruto MATURES as the series advances and stops spouting trash like "i'll become hokage and everyone will respect me!" because it doesn't work that way, Sasuke himself in the final fight portrays early Naruto's ideal while Naruto who has grown up and matured tells him that the world doesn't work that way.

Naruto was about bonds and hatred, the hard work and power thing was a small part of an arc and Rock Lee himself says that he was conceited thinking that hard work>talent because Sasuke worked fucking hard too and he copied his taijutsu in 1 month.

I really hate how ret/a/rds think they're so clever when they don't even understand shonen manga, it's pathetic.
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>>161480681
Chill the fuck down, anon, we all know what really Naruto is about, and it's the keikaku of the Master Eugenicist being fulfilled.
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>>161480681
>bonds and hatred
the bonds and hatred shit only appears after sasuke leaves the village you retard

it's about naruto's dream to become hokage which any normal person would have to work insanely hard for but he cheats the system with his chakra monster
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>>161480670
that was fucking cruel
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>>161480681
>stops spouting trash like "i'll become hokage and everyone will respect me!"
shut up faggot

he only stopped spouting that when Itachi lectured him about trusting others

now go back to rddit
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>>161465194
It's only as fast as you can run.
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>>161477241
the entire series was full of lies
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>>161466033
"The chosen one" is also a common trope used by shitty writers dating all the way back to religious writings.
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>>161480681
TL;DR
Dont care why Naruto is your favorite animes
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>>161480681
>You do realize that nobody liked Naruto because they thought he was the fox? the most powerful creature they knew of? Yet they never cared about him.

I get that with only one person knowing the entire rumor could spread out to the entire village, but then how did anyone else find out that he had the fox inside him if only few ninjas saw what happened? That shit should have been kept secret.
If it was spreaded by the ninjas who witnessed the whole thing, then Sarutobi better have done something about it.
They knew he had the fox inside but they didn't know who was his father nor why he had the fox? and if they knew then that only makes it worse.
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>>161465080
>Akatsuki is full of elite criminals that even five Kage are frightened of
>Sasori killed by the most useless character in the series
>Deidara fails trying to kill a genin
>Hidan sealed by a chunin
>Kakuzu killed by 1 genin and 1 jonin
>Itachi dies from AIDS
>Kisame defeated by 1 jonin

only Tobi, Zetsu and Pain were somewhat impressive
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>>161479789
People tend to forget that without his magical fox bff Naruto is absolute garbage
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>>161480923
To be fair, Kisame got rekt by the hands of Might fucking Guy. It isn't a real demerit.
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>>161480925
he can't do shit without the fox and acts like he's some kind of self made superhero
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>>161480945
guy is still one (1) jonin and kisame had overwhelming territorial advantage

I wonder why he didn't just disappear deep into the water given that guy cannot hold his breath forever
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>>161480923
deidara was a teenager killed by another teenage prodigy who had a hard counter to his jutsu

Hidan was an idiot outsmarted by a genius.

Kakuzu and kisame weren't killed by any random jonin they were killed buy Guy and Kakshi who are borderline Kage tier.


Itachi was the reason the Akatsuki were hyped up in the first place, everyone thought the whole group was going to be as cool and badass as him.
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>>161480925
>>161480948

Naruto without the fox is above Kage level.
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>>161481028
top kek
>can't do anything but shadow clones and mediocre taijutsu
>without fox his clones are limited to 5

even rock lee would pound his ass into the ground
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>>161481011
>deidara was killed

lol no

sasuke ran out of chakra at the end and asspulled to teleport out of the C0 blast
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>>161481028
are you saying that because of sage mode?
he was only able to master sage mode thanks to Kurama giving him enough chakra for clone abuse and same for Rasengan
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>>161481011
>the insidious warmongering village of iwagakure is afraid of one teenaged former member of the explosives unit when they have countless other members with the same ability

deidara was the true prodigy, sasuke is just an eyefaggot
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>>161481041
>without fox his clones are limited to 5
Where is the proof of that?

Even if his limit was 5 clones he can still learn sage mode, it would just take longer.
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>>161481028
Naruto is a talentless hack. His fox chakra was the reason he could work harder than other genin. He only gained exp because of clone abuse which is a direct result of his fox chakra. Naruto would grow up a fucking bum without his fox.
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>>161481093
Not all of that was from the fox, anon, he still was an Uzumaki from birth, with the shit ton of chakra and stamina that comes with it.
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>>161481092
boruto is more talented and has the same genetics yet is limited to five

>>161481092
>sage mode matters
good luck fighting pain with just the sage mode and no fox to save your ass from chibaku tensei
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>>161481052
I'm still fucking pissed about this. At the very least, that fight should've been a draw.
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>>161481122
Boruto has inferior stamina reserves compared to Naruto, remember he is 1/2 Hyuga.
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>>161480821
and it wouldn't really be deadlier than a big knife would it?
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>>161481052
Why did Kishi even make that scenario?
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>>161480525
Uh, it is actually snakeman's lab in the middle of nowhere.
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>>161481154
Naruto is also 1/2 Uzumaki anon

his stamina isn't that great either, when orochimaru stopped 9tails from mixing chakra with naruto's he became totally and utterly useless
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>>161481154
And Naruto is 1/2 Uzumaki, the fuck are you talkin bout
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>>161481144
>>161481170
because he wanted to make sauce look cool and setup the stage for more eyefaggotry
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>>161480765
Except it comes out in the first chapter with Iruka, then Konohamaru,then team 7.

Fucking retard
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>>161481236
no you retard, they were the first people to acknowledge his dream

go read it again
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>>161481052
>asspulled

In the fight against Gaara Naruto summoned Gamabunta when he ran out of chakra.
Also during his training, Jirayia made Naruto deplete his chakra for the summoning jutsu
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>>161481154
Nigga do you even math?
Naruto is 1/2 Uzumaki and 1/2 Namikaze.
Hinata is 1/2 Hyuuga and 1/2 whatever
Boruto is 1/4 Uzumaki, 1/4 Hyuuga, 1/4 Namikaze and 1/4 whocares
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>>161481221
>because he wanted to make sauce look cool and setup the stage for more eyefaggotry
>By making Sasuke run out of chakra, but making him able to summon Manda, hypnotize him, and climb into his mouth to protect himself from Deidara going kamikaze right in front of him.
Kishi could have done ANYTHING but this.
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>>161481011
>genius

so smart that he made his team suicide itself for the sake of sauce

so smart that he was about to be killed by the mind control dude in shikamaru hiden
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>>161481267
>hinata is 1/2 hyuga

wut?
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>>161481297
I don't really remember if her mother was a Hyuuga, was she?
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>>161481287
It's the tragedy of trying to write characters smarter than you.
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>>161481259
>implying naruto can ever run out of chakra

lol retard, he created a 1000 clones with a fraction of the 9 tails power to counter madara's mokuton forest
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>>161481185
>>161481267
>>161481154

Boruto is exactly 1/4 Uzumaki, 1/4 Namikaze and 1/2 Hyuga. Naruto is 1/2 Uzumaki and 1/2 Namikaze.

Naruto has greater chakra reserves and
stamina than Boruto. Nothing Boruto has done indicates that he has chakra reserves significantly above average.

Oro's seal didn't reduce Naruto's reserves it just fucked up his chakra control. Kabuto even remarked at how much stamina Naruto had after Orochimaru sealed his belly. Did you guys even watch to show at all?
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>>161481325
>Kabuto even remarked at how much stamina Naruto had after Orochimaru sealed his belly
not him but this is wrong

Kabuto says
>Master Jiraiya may have taught Naruto-kun to tap into the power of the Nine Tails Fox
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>>161481287
They didn't suicide though did they? Anyways the Sasuke retrieval was a kneejerk reaction mission, not much time for him to plan.
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>>161481041
>can't do anything but shadow clones and mediocre taijutsu
Naruto with just Sage mode, frog kata and rasengan with it's variations is literally above most Kages. We know this because that's all he needed to destroy most of Pain's bodies, which were enough to kill Jiraiya, who's more powerful than most Kages.

>without fox his clones are limited to 5
First chapter Naruto (with a Kyuubi seal intact) pulled off like twenty shadow clones, so stop making shit up you speedreader.
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>>161465278
He successfully assassinated Rin too. :^)
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>>161481314
I'd say Kakashi alone plans better and executes better than any of Shikamaru's """2000""" ""strategies''"

Shikamaru is desk job-tier, he deserves to be a salaryman for the rest of his life
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>>161480636
And he still jobbed.
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>>161480791
Grandpa forgave so should he, dattebayo.
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>>161481390
there is a difference between forgiveness and incompetence

there is also a difference between forgiving someone and being borderline scared of them
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all of this nonsense could have been prevented if akatsuki members just used transformation justu

>transform into kakashi
>put kid naruto in a genjutsu to stop him from noticing its a transformation
>using zetsu to disappear underground

nine tails captured ez
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>>161481426
Now that's not flashy and flamboyant, anon. You might as well say why didn't Obito take baby Naruto after Minato and Kushina died because he already had the fox sealed inside of him.
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>>161481344
Not him but that doesn't matter. Kakashi specifically stated that Naruto's chakra reserves were ten times bigger than his own. Now, I know you're going to say Kakashi's chakra pool is shit, but in reality it's about average or above but it's constantly being drained by his sharingan.

There's also the fact that you NEED high chakra reserves in order to become a Jinchuriki in the first place, otherwise you simply die like Rin.
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>>161481363
YOU SICK FUCK
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>>161480869
It's not bad writing, because God really has chosen humans to be his instrument in the past. Fiction is supposed to imitate life.
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>>161480198
You're retard that doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>>161479904
No, I mean the first heart.
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>>161465080
Does Naruto realize that violence, conflict and war are still going to occur in the future?

I honestly wish Madara would have succeed in his gay plan.
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>>161483013
In that case, everyone would be zombie fighting a war for some hot alien bunny without any say on the matter. In reality nothing would have changed since the violence,concflict and war were guaranteed to continue.
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>>161479789
>but naruto has zero talent
>tree walking in a week, same as sasuke
>water walking in a day
>rasengan in a month
Yeah no he was a talentless hack, it wasn't because he was a lazy little shit at all.
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>>161483331
>it wasn't because he was a lazy little shit at all
He wasn't. He was working hard even back in the day. He lacked tutoring, if anything.
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>>161483444
He worked hard, in very short bursts. But going off his incredible rate of improvement after he graduated on very little real instruction from Kakashi, he had to have skived off of 99% of training at school.
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>>161466033
Naruto is a story about eugenics.
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>>161482225
You're acting as if God is real, christcuck.
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>>161466033
Neji was right that's why Kishi killed him.
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>>161467856
Kishimoto originally wanted the series to be about wizards
Naruto is basically Japanese Harry Potter
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>>161483581
Are you just understanding this now?
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>>161480636
And then got BTFO and put in a wheelchair for life where. If he had known his pace as Naruto's genetic inferior, none of this would have had to happen.
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>Kiri is an awful place where people with hereditary abilities are hunted, students have to slaughter each other in order to become gennin, and the people who flee from the village are killed and their remain destroyed by oi-nin.
>Lel it was all because the Mizukage was manipulated and Terumii fixed everything in the few years Naruto spent training, Kiri's a good boy now.
A classic :
>Byakugan is the grandad of dojutsu.

>>161484266
I can't wait for the manga to reveal that everything was planned by the (((Hyuuga))).
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>>161484326
>Byakugan is the grandad of dojutsu.
I'm still mad about this lie/retcon. I thought it was good lore building that the Sharingan evolved from the Byakugan which might explain why the Sharingan had more bizarre powers while the Byakugan just was more primitive but still useful. Then that all got shat on. Fucking Kishi.
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>>161483581
>He never heard of Hiashi's master plan
You missed the best part about the whole series http://imgur.com/a/gc6Cc
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I still think Puppet Master Jutsu is the coolest shit.
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>>161465080
>Orochimaru did something wrong
He didn't do anything. That's why he's able to walk away free.
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>>161486491
Well, if even the Hokage thinks so who am I to disagree?
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>>161471642
Gay
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Naruto should have stopped at Sage Mode so it'd show his hard work prevailing over birth and shit. Especially since the fox actually hindered his Sage Mode

And Naruto would become Hokage with his own effort and strength (well actually nature's strength but that's thematically fitting in a way, something about opening up I don't know) rather than the fox
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did anyone care at all when this fag died?
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>>161480906
Nothing about that made sense. They completely kept a secret that Naruto was Kushina and Minato's son, which wasn't really important and if revealed would only make people softer on him, yet everyone knew that Naruto had Kurama in him. Also supposedly everybody in the village hated him, except we see exactly one actual character who hated him at first, the rest are just faceless mob of nobodies, while all the known kids from other teams had nothing against him and hanged out at times.
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>>161488574
Yeah, Shikamaru, Kiba & co never did any bad shit to him. You have to wonder where are all those guys who supposedly hate him in the first place.
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>>161481006
Guy is one (1) jonin that can bust open a Madara with Ten Tails inside him. Let's not pretend like he's a normal ass ninja.
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>>161481363
Fuck you, motherfucker. I loved Rin. She didn't deserve that. Kakashi is such a loser.
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>>161465080

>The Rinnegan was the original Doujutsu and only the Rikkudou Sennin had it
>Pain had it because he was born with this godly power, but ended up as fallen Ninja-Jesus
>actually nah lol, Pain got it transplanted by Madara who awakened it right before his demise
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>>161492184
Go to afterlife, Obito.
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