Princess Principal

I'd let a drunken Dorothy take advantage of me.

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>>161234764
I will kiill anyone that tries to take advantage of my wife.

>>161234889
Do you think Ange cries inside everytime she kills someone

>>161234947
Probably.
But Princess gets off on thinking about Ange killing people.

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>>161234947
No, the reward is worth.

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>>161234764
Okay so let me get this straight. Ange has been training and working as a spy for 10 years prior to their reunion, and is pushed on to do even more work by Princess which will take god knows how long. On the other hand, Princess hasn't done a single god damn thing for 10 years. She hasn't tried to make any political connections or reached out to anyone who might be willing to help her. Basically she's been sipping tea with Beato day in and day out, and when Ange shows up she lets her continue to do all the work.
Now the question is, what the fuck does Ange see in Princess that makes her willing to go this far? It seems like she cares more about Princess herself than about taking down the wall, which is just a way for her to be with Princess out in the open. What the hell is she gonna do if Princess dies or reveals some ulterior motives?

>>161235593
da pussy is bomb

>>161235593
She'll study medicine and rebuild Princess.

>>161235593
Ange worked this much for Princess already, might as well keep going at this point. There was a name for this.

>>161235691
Sunk cost fallacy.

>>161235593
>single god damn thing for 10 years
Princess learned the art of smug.

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>>161235649
Is there really a pussy so good that you'd sacrifice your life as royalty and put your life at risk on a daily basis?

>>161235824
Her ass is also really soft and tight and smells nice.

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>>161234764

I am a lightweight, she would drink me under the table in no time

>>161235920
I want to drink her pee under the table.

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Chise darling, tonight in your crash course on western culture we will talk about one of the greatest poets of the greek era, Sappho.

>>161235920
I wouldn't mind being under her table.

>>161235824
Couldnt Ange just fap to her own pussy and her own face? They fucking look identical to each other.>>161235824

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Ange-san, what is love?

>>161236718
>Ange puts the wig and start masturbating in front of the mirror
>tries to do a smug, gets embarrassed and can't do it anymore

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>>161236808
Baby don't hurt me

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>>161236808
Baby please hurt me

>>161236808
愛よ

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=64468960
>you'll never brush Ange's secret place

>>161234947
No. I'm so sick and tired of this kind of thinking. Just because a girl is a softie to someone she loves doesn't mean she's an overly emotional or fragile person and that her tough exterior is "fake."

God fucking damn it to hell. Had Ange (or Homura) been a guy, you fuckers would have thought of them as harden soldiers with feelings at appropriate time, not fakers who break down in secret.

>>161237244
There is one hint that she might be softer than she lets on. When she was asked whether she would kill the dude, she kept repeating No even as she shot him.
But otherwise I agree with you.

Dorothy is genuinely a good girl.
She says so herself that if she had not ended being a spy she could have ended marrying a local baker.
Can you imagine Dorothy being a cute dorky wife baker mom? She'd be so damn adorable.
Bless her heart, her dad was so shitty and she could still see past his flaws and remained loyal, caring and kind to him until the end.
That's not to say Dorothy is a passive girl, her patience does have limits and she does have a string will but she knows how and when to show force. Love live with her would be quite spicy.
In short i wouldn't take advantage of her, I'd seduce her and make her my woman, I'd marry her and enjoy giving her the life she deserves because she is 10/10 and I'd love to have her by my side all the way.

>>161237162
This doesn't look hygienic.

>>161237244
Women are softer than men, get over it

>>161234764
That depends. Am I on guard duty when it happens?

>>161237297
There is a difference between having feeling and being a softie. Do you think of Snake as a softie who die inside everytime he kills somebody? If you don't, does it mean he's a coldblooded evil piece of shit? No. Then you shouldn't assume the same for Ange or Homura either. She sympathized with Eric because he's not a bad dude, and that's why she was kind enough to help his sister, nothing more nothing less.

>>161237389
It has nothing to do with the conversation, which is about double standard, dumbass.

>>161237244
She's not a softie but she's not ice cold either.
Either extreme interpretation of her would be flawed.
Like soldiers Ange pushes herself to do difficult things like murder or deadly stunts like going through a giant fan.
Her fears and regrets do not dissappear. She merely pushes herself forward despute them and buries those feelings.
She "lies" to herself, closes her eyes, and does what she has to do.
And soldiers can still see their buried feelings come out when they can no longer keep them at bay, it's why so many of them suffer after war.
Ange is still a young girl and she's shown she still has one's heart in many scenes so the fact that she's a professional doesn't mean that she couldn't fall apart emotionally or let herself exposed later.
Far from the fragile maiden some think she is, but not a cold stoic either.

>>161237561
Stop typing like a faggot. And read what I said again. Nobody is saying she's coldblooded so your lengthy rant is irrelevant.

>>161237162
That looks painful.

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>still no preview
So it begins.

>>161237890
They're just messing with us.

>>161237632
The scene where she shoots him repeatedly lying was obviously made with the intent to give the audience the impression that she was troubled by it.

>>161237890
I only hope they aren't trying to rush the queen plot. I'd rather them just leave it the way it is if they know they couldn't get a split/s2

>>161237303
What about when you lose a hand, starts drinking and beating her, and when she leaves you vent your frustrations on your daughter who looks a lot like her mother?

>>161237925
>I'd rather them just leave it the way it is if they know they couldn't get a split/s2
If they do that Princess will never get any spotlight though.

>>161238078
She's just a prize anyway.

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Show me your pripri, Charlotte.

>>161238078
Sacrifices have to be made sometimes

>>161237162
Man, that artist's got some great feet stuff.
Thanks, anon.

>>161238106
Maybe, but I hope not. It would be a waste, I think.

>>161238196
Cut your dick off if you want a sacrifice.

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Translation?

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>>161235593
Homura fucked up the entire universe because madoka was kind and showed he the way to the bathroom. Autistic lesbos never again.

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>>161237890
3hz at it again

>>161236808
Love is like a stick of Cavorite.
First it glows beautifully and you feel light like you can fly.
Then you fly higher and higher and feel ecstatic.
Then you penetrate yourself with it and orgasm like mad.
Then the Cavorite breaks and you crash down on the ground and die naked with shards of Cavorite in your mangled pussy that gets separated all over the place like the rest of your body on impact.

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>>161238501
>that day when Salt stole the PV

>>161238602
That sounds like fun.

>>161237244
What's wrong with people dudes included having emotions you fag?

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Beato raped me! No more missions with Beato!

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>>161238877
Excuse me miss, but Beatrice is a pure girl who would never do such a thing.

>>161238925
Kek
I like the hat

1. Beato
2. Dorothy
3. Chise
4. Princess
5. Ange

My want to fuck list.

>>161239353
Is this about teaching beato how to break into her room?

>>161239353
That looks gay.
Is it gay?

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>>161239421
Probably.

I don't know who I love more Daisy or Beato and it's tearing me apart. They are both so perfect.

>>161239563
You should just love 7 instead.

>>161239612
>dude can't even choose between two
>tells him to love seven

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Maybe next ep will tell us why Princess was doing her research.

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Jesus fucking Christ Beato.

>>161234764
i want to fondle her ginormous horse cock if you catch my drift

>>161239810
You think Okouchi would allow even that little bit of development?

>>161239810
>entry for Dorothy forgot to include "Best girl in show"

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>>161239814

>>161240024
Because Ange is the best girl. Dorothy agrees.

>>161240094
>Because Ange is the best girl.
Wrong
>Dorothy agrees.
Post proofs or GTFO.

They are all best girls.
Except Princess.

>>161238078
>>I'd rather them just leave it the way it is if they know they couldn't get a split/s2
>If they do that Princess will never get any spotlight though.

Oh, there are other types of stories that could allow Princess the spotlight

Like have her do some high-tension negotiation. Or put her in a casino setting

>>161240094
Lizardmen can't be best girls.

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>>161239994
My dad is 3hz. This season we get a flashback and Normandy killed by Gazelle. Sequel is a movie but live action with Scarjo as Ange and Ellen page as Princess.

>>161240170
The problem is pacing. Princess has potential but they still have a main plot to advance and they are already halfway through.

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>when Beatrice starts singing in Danny's voice offscreen

>>161238393
she fucked up the entire universe because she couldn't stand the fact that a girl as kind as madoka would have to endure all of that fucking work which wasn't believably something she liked
instead homura took it upon herself to endure that thing and to give madoka a good, normal life
homura did nothing wrong mait

>>161240170
>Like have her do some high-tension negotiation
I'm actually surprised Okouchi didn't even give her that much. It's like they really don't want to do anything with her at all.

They don't want people getting too attached to Princess because she's going to die.

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>>161240859
Time to get friendly with the cyborg then.

>>161240859
On the other hand, if people don't get attached, her death would lack emotional punch.

>>161240859
I don't think that will happen. Tragic yuri is out of style now.

>>161241193
Okouchi doesn't care.

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>>161235824
Why not, it's happened before.

>>161240421
That scene and then the shot at the morgue while Beato was singing got me right in the feels.

>>161241330
Izetta was doing fuck all before reuniting with Fine. Ange must have constantly been in dangerous situations while she was away.

>>161241877
I didn't like the singing, but that's probably because I don't like how Japanese people sing "western" songs.

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>>161239353

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>>161241193
Last time I saw one was in that animu about space lesbians invading Earth. They also chicken out of killing cute girls cause they are the face of the franchise, almost like idols. In the perfect world ppk would banish with PI forever.

>>161241922
So it's not gay.

>2ch talking about ep 6 getting mixed reactions here

>>161242003
>This is not gay
Of course not, it's yuri.

>>161242053
Who cares?

>>161241922
Thanks.

>>161242079
Them apparently?

>>161242079
Me, me, I care!

>>161241955
Litterally the only way Yayaka could have won the Coconabowl.
The worst part is that I would have been ok with it.

>>161242053
Are they aware of the perpetual shitposting cycle that is inherent to 4chan or do they take everything here posted at face value?

Goofy axe notwithstanding, the episode was good. The people against it simply wanted more direct spy action or moving the plot forward as we're mid-way through. Easy as that.

>>161242159
I would have preferred it if Mimi won.

>>161242193
There was literally nothing wrong with the goofy axe.

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>>161241922
Thanks, glad people acknowledge who the backup girlfriend is. Beato strong.

>>161242159
>>161242215
The patrician choice was the painter senpai.

>>161242237
He could've dodged it rather easily.
She should have just shot him with it.

>>161242193
>>161242237
They laid the "HER DAD IS GONNA DIE" on super thick at the end, and the axe was pretty silly, but overall it was a good episode.
It's like how in episode 5 there were a lot of iffy, off model shots but it didn't really matter because the rest of the episode was so good.

>>161242053
How?
It was a beautiful and well made gaze into the characters. We got so much closer to Beato and Daisy than before it's crazy.
And the story itself was well made and paced doing a good job balancing her dad between terrible and redeemable until the end.
They executed that sort of story very well.

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>>161241922
Meanwhile Ange already sneaks into Princess' room every night. Sometimes Chise, too.

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>>161242310
>implying

>>161242193
All the post said was that compared to previous episodes the amount of criticism was noticeably higher and then explained the complaints people were making here.

>>161242361
>People are calling doro daisy now
stop
we call everyone else by their code name

>>161242397
That makes sense for the reptilian twins because it would be confusing as hell to mix them up.
Daisy/Dorothy is not confusing.

>>161242388
Eh, sounds fair enough.

>>161242310
She screwed with her head and intruded into her personal matters. Unknowingly, but she still did it.

Painter senpai deserves better.

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>>161242369
>Sometimes Chise, too.

>>161242518
Yeah just mentioned how some people were unhappy it was different from the other episodes being focused heavily on drama and not being exciting elaborate spy action stuff. Also seemed to pickup on that guy who really hated the dad for being a child abuser with a passion and people calling it melodramatic.

>>161242845
What did they think of the episode?

>>161242885
There were a few posts complaining about it and noting than the animation was a bit worse but majority positive.

>>161242518
Hey, at least it helped Iroha for the better.

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I think Beato can last 5 rounds with Charlotte~

>>161243010
Before her mind gives out or before her body is in shambles?

>>161242922
>majority positive
It's cute how much you try to damage control.

This show is actually doing pretty well on the charts. Do you think the "3hz doesn't do S2" meme will finally come to an end?

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>>161243010
Pathetic. Chise can last 50.

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>>161243054
Before I send Chise for a lizard sandwich.

>>161243130
I'm not sure what you are trying to say? I was one of the posters complaining about episode 6. I think it was the worst of the show so far but the reaction on 2ch was mostly positive from what I have read.

>>161243135
There is such a meme? 3Hz has only done 4 shows, not nearly enough to predict what they do or meme about. And I thought S2 as a rule is rare in anime these days, regardless of studio.

>>161243010
Hey Princess, where is your screentime?

>>161243215
They hardly talked about the episode, just meming and mostly ignored it after feeling a bit sorry for Dorothy. A completely different reaction from ep 5.

>>161243166
Chise, they are talking about a specific type of round. It's an albionese thing.

>>161243416
>a specific type of round
.455 Webley?

>>161243234
S2s are not all that common, but they are obviously not a possibility with 3Hz as they always tank with their shows for one reason or another.

It's funny they ended up paired with Actas, the guys who are sitting on a gold mine with GuP and still can't catch a break.

>>161243387
Let me put it this way, the majority of posts expressing an opinion on the episode were positive. I noticed one poster say it was the worst episode yet and another agree. Besides that everything else I saw was saying it was good.

>>161243135
The only other choices are

>Leave the Queen plot open
>Use the last 5 episodes to rush the queen plot
>Something happens that deviates from the Queen plot

They have a decent amount of merch prepared for this show so I think that will be the deciding factor for S2 if It's not already split.

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Royal toilet.

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>>161243752
Royal bed warmer

>>161243752
Can I be one too?

>>161243849
Sure, for some minor Russian prince.

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Princess using her toilet.

>>161243440
You have no idea how the anime industry works, do you? Actas doesn't own GuP, so they don't get any money from BD sales or merch. And this show belongs to Bandai, not 3Hz.

>>161243942
That's not how you use a toilet.

>>161243752
Roylet

>>161243387
Also I definitely wasn't trying to make out it was like episode 5 either. Positive means just that, favourable, not incredible or best thing ever. Nobody was really going crazy over it like episode 5, but at the same time most expressing an opinion were on the positive side.

>>161243977
Didn't ACTAS lose money on the GuP film despite it being a huge success?

>>161243983
Chise pls.

>>161243827
I bet Beato has a warm blaket function.

>>161243977
I know they only get contracted to work on it.
It's still a juxtaposition to see one of the poorest studios around working on the most valuable IP of the last 5 years or so.

Wonder if I can find any of the ACTAS guys on twitter. Only have the 3Hz ones. Maybe there is a clue about where the preview is somewhere out there.

>>161244020
>Didn't ACTAS lose money on the GuP film despite it being a huge success?
Because they spent more on production than the budged they had, so they had to put money from their pocket to finish the movie. The payment for their contract is included in the budget, so they lost their payment plus whatever they spent to get the movie done.

>>161235593
This really bothered me too. I can't think of any satisfactory answer as to why Ange would feel so devoted to the Princess. What the hell could have happened between 7 year olds to make her this way?

>>161244325
That much is obvious.

>>161244366
Perhaps Princess gave Ange the attention and companionship that her family never did. That's also probably why she doesn't give a flying fuck about them now considering that moving Princess up will require eliminating some family members.

>>161244366
Something similar to what Princess did for Beato, most likely. Ange probably didn't have any friends and her family didn't care about her, and Princess saved her from her loneliness.

Who would win in a 5-girl free-for-all?

>>161244366
Ange probably didn't like her life as a noble,and Princess showed her the goods of being a commoner and affection. Like titanic minus the lewd parts.

>>161244566
The audience.

>>161244566
That could be only Princess or Chise.
Dorothy and Beato are not strong enough.

>>161244566
Princess makes Ange and Beato fight for her, makes them fight each other and then stabs Ange in the back.

>>161244566
Is the prize my heart? If so Beato.

>>161244647
That's not a prize worth fighting for.

>>161235920
Think of how much of an experienced drunk she must be in order to confidently drink that much hard liquor just for a bit of courage.

Just like daddy.

>>161244687
What a mean thing to say.

>>161244729
>just for a bit of courage
For the smell.

Does Beato trim Princess's pubic hairs?

>>161244807
Nobody trims Princess.

>>161244638
>makes them fight each other and then stabs Ange in the back.

Whoa there. You're assuming Beato would lose against Ange.

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>>161242361
>story itself was well made and paced doing a good job balancing her dad between terrible and redeemable until the end

Indeed, which is why I was surprised when I saw so many posts about disliking the episode.

I guess some people got too triggered about Dorothy getting abused and/or got reminded about their fathers.

>>161242361
Her dad literally had not a single redeemable moment. Not selling your daughter should be the bare minimum of human decency, and I am still not convinced about how the events played.

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IS IT SUNDAY YET?
FUCK

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http://mkmk.main.jp/anime/princess-principal/ep6r

We've been infiltrated by Horikawa's spies.

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>tfw the show is great but the threads are kinda boring

>>161245004
>Her dad literally had not a single redeemable moment.
Well, he refused to sell Dorothy to the homo and his guards, and talked about how he was going to turn his life around and spoil Dorothy all he could.

Though I agree with you, it really wasn't pulled off well at all.

>>161245102
>あとは児童虐待するような父親を使って良い話に持っていこうとしたのも、日本と比べて児童虐待が洒落にならないレベルで多い一部の国の方たちにとっては受け入れ難いのかもなあとも思ったり。
>(こちらの記事では、児童虐待の割合が高い国として2位にアメリカ、4位にイギリスが挙げられていました)
ただお察しの通り、4chanはひねくれ者が多い場所ですからね。

Do they think we are particularly triggered by child abuse now because of that one anon losing his shit over the dad?

>>161245139
My problem is that I have two questions that ruin any chance of me forgiving him.

Did he actually meant what he said about his daughter to Gazelle?
And why where the thugs waiting for them at the bar? I conclude that he wanted to meet them to give them the money, but why send your daughter there?

Questions that can't be answered.

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>>161245102
>どうして彼女はこんな座り方してるんだ？
>多分お尻が痛いから。

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Just finished watching the episode.
What the fuck is her problem?

>>161245111
You are boring

>>161245248
>And why where the thugs waiting for them at the bar?

Have you considered that maybe they were just hanging out there?

>>161245248
Yes and that's the only decent bar in the area, easy to answer.

>>161245286
Couldn't find a place to shit

>>161245248
>Did he actually meant what he said about his daughter to Gazelle?
At the time, yes. He's the kind of person who wants to be good, but fails every time he is tested.

>>161245248
>Did he actually meant what he said about his daughter to Gazelle?

Well, I guess this could be left to interpretation, but I honestly don't really see any reason why he'd try to lie to Gazelle.

>And why where the thugs waiting for them at the bar? I conclude that he wanted to meet them to give them the money, but why send your daughter there?

Pretty sure he was assuming the deal would go quickly and he'd pay off the thugs before they got there.

>>161245286
She's just doing her job.

>>161245215
It would seem he thinks that we take child abuse much more seriously here than the Japanese do because apparently the US is ranked number 1 in the world for child abuse?

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>>161245102
>Why is she sitting like that?
>Maybe her butt hurts.

I love how nips are going to read that and think we're stupid

>>161245102
>they posted my post

neat

>>161245286
She just found out about an extra leak.

>>161245346
Well, we are.

>>161245341
Sorry number 2.

>>161245369
this, desu.

>>161245248
>but why send your daughter there?
Convenience. He intended to pay off the loan sharks before Dorothy got there.

>>161245391
It's not like the lowest of their "group mentality" is any better.

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>>161245102
>one of my posts is in there

Nice feeling.

>>161245286
Nothing, I would be pretty irritated aswell if some drunkard demanded extra money for the job while spilling bullshit about his future plans instead of just completing the exchange like normal human beings.

>>161245324
Why though? She could just have given him the money without having to plant an axe in his head, did they simply feel the need to show us how evil she and Normandy are?

>>161245301
I did, but it doesn't fit with how they were sitting there and were not surprised at all to see her. In fact, what they are surprised is that he sent two girls and not only one.

>>161245319
He's closer to a child that hurts people around him, I don't think he tries to be good. Look at how he treated Beato, someone who tries to be good doesn't act like that.

>>161245323
He'd lie to Gazelle to ask for more money without looking like the villain.

>>161245323
>>161245419
That's not possible. They start from the same position, the girls go to the bar while he goes to Gazelle and then to the bar. How could he reach the bar before Daisy?

>set a fixed price for the old drunk's service
>he tries to start re-negotiating the agreed-on money
>forgets that it's a simple matter to clean up a loose end by murdering the old, debt-riddled drunk who no one will miss

Not Daisy's dad's best moment.
he just wanted to take her out and buy nice dresses for her

>>161245102
I recognize several of my posts there.

>>161245490
>it doesn't fit with how they were sitting there
It does, because they had an appointment with him.
>and were not surprised at all to see her.
They interpreted her to be the payment.
They even said as much after she beat them up.

>>161245455
>Know enough Nip to not feel like an idiot reading these.
>Find my own post.
>Couldn't follow it for shit despite knowing exactly what it says.
>Feel like an even bigger idiot.

It's truly a strange feeling.

>>161245507
And then beat the shit out of her in an alley.

>>161245475
Do you actually think she didn't suspect who this daughter that conveniently appeared was? he was a liability and had to be removed.

>It is the first time that negative writing has become conspicuous so far in "Princess · Principal" thread of 4chan / a / (animated board).
>It was completely divided by Anon who tears of the royal road and Anon who cuts it as a story without twist.
>Another thing that I tried to bring to a good story with a child abusing father is that it is hard to accept for some people in the country where child abuse is not stylish compared with Japan I thought.
>(In this article, America was ranked second in terms of child abuse rate and UK in fourth place)
>Just as you guessed, 4chan is a place with many twists.
>I think that it will be different again if I put together my impressions on other overseas bulletin boards such as (redacted)

You shitlords are making our Oriental brothers sad. Be more positive.

>>161244945
I just felt like the script and the dialogue was really stiff and unnatural, and relied a lot on the characters telling the audience what they should feel. I didn't particularly care about the dad as a character. I guess he was redeemable or forgivable, but he'd done bad things and then never really done anything good enough for me to be sad that he was getting killed or that Dorothy wouldn't be able to restart her family life (though she's a spy so it's not like there was much hope of that anyways).

>>161245490
>were not surprised at all to see her. In fact, what they are surprised is that he sent two girls and not only one.

He literally explained that, you dumbass

>>161245490
But children want to be good too. They are just not very good at it. Their self-control sucks, just like his.
I'm not making excuses for him. He's human trash. But every human being wants to be a good human being. Most people are somewhat delusional about their effect on the world. He is completely delusional.

>>161245490
He died hours before, note that Dorothy and Beato were already out of the job, the events at the church weren't happening at the same time, they already had happened.
He tries to be good, he treated Beato like that because he's an engineer and his inner engineer was curious and fascinated by the voice moduler.
Why would he ask for more money if he originally didn't need more than what he asked for? He needs more now because Daisy came back to his life.

>>161245490
>He'd lie to Gazelle to ask for more money without looking like the villain.

The episode has painted him as a rather unpleasant man, but never has it shown him as a dishonest one. It's perfectly possible to be a completely honest asshole.

>>161245490
The guy literally ditched his work shift to go make the deal. There was presumably plenty of time between him leaving and the work shift ending for him to make the deal and reach the pub.

>>161245538
Wait.

It doesn't fit refers to "they were just hanging there".

It's confusing, so read who I am replying to or this turns into a mess.

>>161245475
I think it was because he was greedy commoner basically. It shows us his life is worth less than nothing to people like her in the elite and the fact that he was causing her the slightest bit of grief was good enough reason to extinguish his pathetic life. This whole episode had a theme running through it of highlighting how poor and downtrodden some parts of society are. So Gazelle treating him like that only highlights how different Princess and Beato were as members of the upper classes when they say they want to help the poor in that one scene and show sympathy.

>>161244729
Smallbrain.
>>161244773
Actually got it.

>>161245558
How? She's a trained spy. And he's 10 years older and weaker than before.

>>161245632
The point still stands.

>>161245676
And he's her dad. She won't do shit.

>>161245566
That comment isn't sad. Just commenting on the reality of the reaction. Some people were complaining. I found it amusing though that they think we are particularly affected by child abuse scenes compared to the Japanese and explained it was because child abuse more prevalent in the United States apparently?

>>161245718
She can easily evade and block any possible hits, she doesn't have to do shit to him.

>>161245102
How many sites like these do they have?
I think I've seen at least another 2 where they also translate 4chan threads

>>161245786
Tons. I have always assumed it is just random Japanese people who want to work on their English translation skills.

>>161245726
Pretty sure a lot of it is cultural differences. Most western nations have at this point demonized child abuse for very obvious reasons and made it a very large issue of public concern.

Japan, meanwhile, operates under the belief that family issues stay within the family, and it's up to them to resolve their own problems.

>>161245826
>Tons. I have always assumed it is just random Japanese people who want to work on their English translation skills.

It's easy and interesting content, drives up traffic to their blogs. They do the same thing with Jap message boards.

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>>161245566
My sides. They don't have autists or ip count there?

>>161245004
He was a good dad before.
Then lost his arm, lost his wife and finally his daughther.
His life went to full shit, that is enough to break anyone.
But he still remembered those times fondly, he accepted the wrong things he did and was sorry for it.
Then when his daughther came back and he got a chance to clear his debts he was ready to beg for forgiveness and try starting again doing things right.
Dorothy herself still loved him.
Don't you think he could have actually turned his life around now that he had a chance? It seemed like he might.

>>161245613
It couldn't have been too long before, compare the sky when he leaves the morgue and when Daisy reaches the bar.

>>161245853
That is true but there is a particular fascination with outside reaction to Japanese things in Japan that doesn't seem present in western cultures so much. Americans don't really give a fuck what the Japanese think of hamburgers and the golden gate bridge. But Japanese would probably be interested in American reactions to equivalents in their culture.

>>161245896
>and try starting again doing things right.
By throwing a tantrum on the job and molesting some girl?

>>161245896
Realistically speaking, it wasn't gonna happen.
The only faint glimmer of hope I had was because well, this is an anime. If they decided to keep him around, he might as well have turned it around because it's fiction in the end and happy endings are nice.

>>161245935
>That is true but there is a particular fascination with outside reaction to Japanese things in Japan that doesn't seem present in western cultures so much.

I can't speak for everyone but I always enjoy reading machine-translated Futaba threads.

>>161245896
I don't. He treats Beato a cruel kid treats a doll. He tries to use his daughter to get more money from a colonial with a musket axe. Nothing that has been shown to us is positive.

>>161245896
Can go either way with drunktards. Felt bad for him but bitch had it coming.

>>161245896
He would have blown through the money like an idiot if Dorothy wouldn't have been there for him every day, which she couldn't have because of her spy activities. We already saw at the morgue that he still had poor impulse control even sober and with Dorothy there.

>>161245935
>Americans don't really give a fuck what the Japanese think of hamburgers and the golden gate bridge.

Judging by the immense number of youtube channels centered around the notion of going around campuses or streets and asking random Japanese about Marmite, Canada, foreigners and what-not, I'd be inclined to disagree.

>>161245248
If the Daisydad had lied about wanting the money for his daughter, he would have phrased it differently,
He would not have emphasized what future with her he was envisioning, he would have spoken more of her hard work.

>>161245566
Meanwhile on 2ch
>理想は全世界に大絶賛だけど基本は日本のオタの評価が第一だからな

>>161246016
That is also true but that is us comparing western reactions to Japanese things to Japanese reactions to Japanese things. Rather than us going over to 2ch and seeing what they think about Game of Thrones or whatever.

>>161245286
I think they always meant to kill him.
Why else hire a drunk amputee with depression in the first place? So you can get rid of him after you are done and frame it as a casual murder without raising suspicion.

ep7 preview when?

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>>161246086
5 minutes

>>161246071
>a man who wants money is the most predictable kind of man

>>161245786
If you enjoy this kind of thing, do a google search for:

の海外反応 4chan

Then I recommend hitting "images" so you can look for stuff you recognize.

>>161246068
>>理想は全世界に大絶賛だけど基本は日本のオタの評価が第一だからな
So basically "We liked it and our opinions are most important so who gives a fuck what foreigners think"

>>161246086
Considering it's super early in Japan at the moment, I think we'll be safe waiting a few hours without checking on it.

>>161246086
In four days.

>>161246023
That's just 2 things out of context in the episode.

>>161246068
If I knew Japanese, I'd use that site to find out what they think about certain things. But I am not American, and honestly I check /a/'s archive to read what people say about my country.

>>161246282
I only use it because I am interested in what they think about anime because they are Japanese, anime is Japanese and I am interested in Japan. I never go looking around for what they think of the United Kingdom though really. I might casually click onto a video about it on youtube or something sometime though I suppose. Like that other anon mentioned.

>>161246282
>I check /a/'s archive to read what people say about my country.

>/a/ opinions on countries.
You mean finding out how high do fujos rank your country among the Hetalia husbandos?
This place isn't exactly the first to come to mind when it comes to opinions on non-Japanese countries, you know.

Speaking of countries, have any of the BDs promise to give us something like a map of the world yet?
We know Britain-Albion made it big and that Japan still exists. How about the rest of the continent, though?

>Last episode was Case 18
>18

Oh shit, you guys realize what this means, right?

>>161246509
What do you think it means?

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>>161246509

>>161246509
Next is 16 so don't get too excited.

>>161245961
I thought he was drunk when he started tweaking with Beato.
Also he used to be a technician so it makes sense.
He wasn't molesting a girl. He was fascinated with an interesting technical device. Also drunk so he got carried away playing with it.

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>>161245896
Major scumbag but you don't get to choose your family, unfortunately. I thought it was a pretty realistic depiction of a relationship between an adult child and an abusive parent.

>>161246509
>Oh shit, you guys realize what this means, right?

With a confirmed run of only 1 cour and starting on case 16 for episode 1, it was pretty obvious a while ago.

Albeit they are doing a case 10.5 as a BD bonus so at least they don't throw the numbers around too haphazardly.

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>>161246509
It means none of the remaining episodes can be case 18, right?

>>161246612
>With a confirmed run of only 1 cour

Since when?

>>161246625
Unless they are doing it from a different character's point of view.

>>161246625
erementary, my dear chise

>>161246632
Since they put this on the website in the products section.
各巻2話収録／全6巻

>>161246632
The disks have had release dates and pre-orders for a while now and slated only for 6 of them.

Second cour is definitely possible but they're definitely not working on anything of the sort at the moment nor were planning for it when the thing started.

>>161246782
>only 12 episodes
>we already had case 13 and 18
The website is lying to you.

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>Those legs
>Those thighs

>>161246883
Dorothy is perfect.

>>161246860
You are not funny.

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A few weeks ago I never would have foresaw that Princess Principal would be outranking Fate/Shit

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>>161246883
I make you queen for discount, miss dolothy!

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>>161245286
The quicker the job is finished (get the tooth and dispose the destitute), the more time she has to find proper flushing victorian loo instead of the pleb pots or designated shitting bench.

>>161247026
Disposing of a corpse is usually more work intensive and risky than just paying off a drunk.

>>161246963
Not hard when
>A1
>Fate/Apoc
>300 dollar BD box

>>161246883
>dem titties
>dem lips

>>161245507
>>forgets that it's a simple matter to clean up a loose end by murdering the old, debt-riddled drunk who no one will miss
But he literally just told her that he has a daughter.

>>161247196
Look at all the other shows that are outranking it too.

>>161246883
Looks like Beato was right and we really should thank Danny for this miracle.

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>>161246883
Why haven't we seen a scene like this then?

>>161246467
A marriage to Russian royalty to smooth out relations in Europe was mentioned.

>>161235649
This is the correct answer

>>161246883
Dorothy likes em big. I mean, her guns of course.

>>161236718
The tragic fact is that Ange can't even top herself.

>>161247345
Bigger is better, when it comes to guns.

Why is this show so anti-dad?

This is sexism

>>161246883
She's so beautiful.

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>>161247272
Ah, right. Thought I was missing something.

Considering Russia vs British Empire was the main theme of the late 19th century for Britain, it's not that unexpected.
Even had that alliance with Japan over it.

>>161245560
Gazelle has no idea about the daughter. She killed Danny because he asked for more money. This was officially confirmed.

>>161247235
Easy for Gazelle to assume that he is either lying about the daughter, or that since that daughter is the child of an old, debt-riddled drunk, nobody important is going to care regardless.

>>161247483
Then either Gazelle or the writers are morons.

>>161247514
Don't see what's so "moron" about what she did.

>>161246963
It may be outranking but it's not outsolding

>>161246467

I think at least France and Switzerland are mentioned in episode 2.

>>161247483
>Gazelle has no idea about the daughter
Danny literally told her that she should pay extra because his daughter helped him.

>>161247560
First of all, she didn't check what kind of family the guy she hired had.
Then, she didn't suspect about this daughter appearing like that.
Lastly, she didn't know what the daughter knew, and killing a man with a family is much harder than simply paying him at that point.

>>161247659
It's easy to say those things from our perspective, but Gazelle didn't have a reason to suspect anything.

>>161247592
Not yet. Give it a couple of weeks though if things stay the same and it will be. PriPri has gained 300 points in the last 7 days compared to Fates 200.

>>161247719
It's an important item retrieval job, she should have had a solid background check on the guy. She also should have had someone checking on what was going on, just to be sure.

>>161247514
If Gazelle believed that Danny's daughter was a spy it would make much more sense for her to let Danny go and follow him to his daughter then kill her than kill Danny. She clearly did not know who Dorothy was or care.

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This is my fetish

>>161247785
If you were listening to the way the Duke and Gazelle were talking about Danny, you could clearly tell they didn't give two shits about him as long as he got the job done. As far as they were concerned, he was just one in a countless number of drunk, debt-ridden bums living in London's slums. Those guys are literally a dime a dozen.

>>161247919
You being deleted is my fetish.

>>161247785
>she should have had a solid background check on the guy
To find what? That both his wife and daughter ran off, never to be seen again? Also Gazelle didn't know that Danny's daughter came back until right before she killed him.

>>161247935
This shouldn't prevent them from actually being sure that the job was being done.

>>161247481
So when do you think Germany is going to try to rival their Airfleet?

>>161247977
>That both his wife and daughter ran off, never to be seen again?
Yep. And then she hears about this daughter coming back, she thinks there are no coincidences, and tries to find out who she is. When she does, she kills Danny, because he could talk.

>>161247977

>>161248025
>implying that wasn't just the drunkard lying to get more money

>>161247984
And.. the job WAS done. They got the cipher, just like they asked for.

They realistically had no way of knowing (or caring) that some random drunk's daughter turned up after ten years of separation and just happened to be an enemy spy as well.

All they needed was a guy who was in desperate need of money and wouldn't ask questions. Danny filled both those requirements. It's not like they were asking him to infiltrate the Commonwealth embassy or something.

>>161248025
Why should she think the daughter of the drunk asshole that works in the morgue because his life is ruined is anything but another drunk asshole that went to work in the morgue because her life was ruined?

>>161247984
Both Dorothy being used for the mission and Danny used for the mission are fairly transparent and illogical plot devices for the sake of allowing for a background episode for Dorothy. Why would they ever use a random guy rather than getting a good spy to do the job for them from their side? Control managed to infiltrate the morgue easily with their spies. Likewise there's no good reason it had to be Dorothy to do that job. One of their other spies could have achieved the same outcome.

>>161248127
Adding to this, even if she did think Danny's daughter was someone important, there's no reason for her to give a damn. She got the cipher, mission accomplished.

>>161247514
I have to agree.
After reading everything else the anons here are saying here I still come to this conclusion.
If it actually was over the money then either of them are fucking retards.
There's just no way a random unintended and poorly motivated assassination could make sense in that content.
She'd have to improvise dealing with the corpse, make sure there is no way to trace it back to her and make sure no one else is left making questions about him.
What if the daughter he mentioned was around or knew where he was? What if anyone saw her around?
It's just a poor judgement as her first response to a request for more money.
If that was the reason and at least she had tried to negotiate with him then maybe it'd be understandable, if he had threatened to withhold the teeth or to blackmail them with a leak threat as well. But just for asking slightly more money?
The risks and burdens of taking that action do not out weight the costs and risks of it.

>>161248207
The whole conceit of the spy work in the episode was just a thinly vieled illogical excuse for backstory for Dorothy to be honest.

>>161248151
I do not doubt for a second that in the Duke's mind, his actual agents have better shit to do than combing through corpses. You can literally hire some random dude off the street to that and that's exactly what he did.

And the reason Control tasked Dorothy for the mission was because they had no idea how to find the body and they knew Dorothy was pretty much the only person Danny would let his guard down. Notice how after all this time, even after being chased by loan sharks who were basically on the verge of murdering his ass, he NEVER told them what he was doing? Danny may be a drunk asshole, but even he knows how to keep a secret.

>>161248127
Because it's an amazing coincidence? like, we are searching for this cipher, and the daughter of the man we tasked with the job showed up.

Like, the more I think about the more I realize that the told (the cipher is important) and the shown (half assed job by a drunkard) don't fit.

>>161248151
This too.

And >>161248207
Even if Gazelle hates poor people, she's in a position where she should act much more logically.

>>161248207
Why do you type like that?

There's nothing to do with the corpse. Dude's a drunk shitter that got a machete to the face after a fight with some other drunk shitter, who cares. And to anyone who wants to ask questions, who are they going to ask them to? The police? lol, the Duke of Normandy owns the police, bitch.

>>161248297
>Because it's an amazing coincidence? like, we are searching for this cipher, and the daughter of the man we tasked with the job showed up.
>>161248193

>>161248288
>I do not doubt for a second that in the Duke's mind, his actual agents have better shit to do than combing through corpses. You can literally hire some random dude off the street to that and that's exactly what he did.
You can literally hire some dude off the street but if it is important work then why would you?
>And the reason Control tasked Dorothy for the mission was because they had no idea how to find the body and they knew Dorothy was pretty much the only person Danny would let his guard down.
The only reason they had to do that was because the Kingdom side had hired someone who it makes no real sense to hire to do important work. Even then do you really think another spy couldn't have convinced an in debt man to tell them how to find the body. It's a simple case of "what are they paying you? we will double it and make sure you are safe".

steampunk london seems to be a pretty shitty place, corpses aren't likely to be uncommon. especially since everybody who deals with the spies ends up a corpse so far. i bet she just moonwalked out of the church as cool as Jack the Ripper and didn't give it a second thought after Dorothy's dad.

>>161248207
This is all predicated on the murderer actually having to worry about the police or actual legal consequences.

Except this is Victorian London, where drunk deadbeats are killing each other all the time.

And the murderer's boss literally owns the police.

There was literally no downside for them just killing the guy and wiping their hands clean of the whole situation.

>>161248391
That just insists on the point that she's a moron with short term plans. What if the daughter saw the cypher? what can we find out about this potential spy? should I kill this man knowing that his daughter might be a spy?

Gazelle should be competent.

>>161248017
Depends whether Germany exists or not.
German unification is 1871. Give or take, cavorite could have changed that or we might even see events from a time before then.

>>161248440
>tfw PriPri's Jack is going to be in the next episode but we still don't have the preview

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>>161248485
>potential spy
Dude.

Gazelle did not jump out of the show and watch the episode, she doesn't have the perspective we do.

>>161248587
Don't worry, preview will come at 22:30 JST on Sunday.

>>161248485
Except they never told Danny what exactly it was he was retrieving. All he was told was grab the tooth. An untrained eye is never going to recognize a cipher as anything but gibberish.

>>161248428
>You can literally hire some dude off the street but if it is important work then why would you?

Maybe because the Duke didn't think it was that important, especially if he had no reason to think the Commonwealth knew about the cipher.

>The only reason they had to do that was because the Kingdom side had hired someone who it makes no real sense to hire to do important work. Even then do you really think another spy couldn't have convinced an in debt man to tell them how to find the body. It's a simple case of "what are they paying you? we will double it and make sure you are safe".

Because then that risks Danny become suspicious and asking questions, or he might go back to the Duke and use that as a bargaining chip to get MORE money, except now Duke DEFINITELY knows somebody is after the cipher and will actually start paying attention.

If you were watching the episode, the Duke was basically treating the whole cipher recovery as an annoying house chore he has to take care of.

>>161248268
Her backstory and the spy themes of the show are not entirely disconnected though, and the episode was otherwise great.

It showed that spy work can sometimes be mundane, and it also showed that it's a dark thing that puts people at risk and often loved ones can become collateral damage. It followed the theme of exploring different aspects and layers of the spy theme but in this case it focused on something that's not the usually glamorous part.

And fleshing out Dorothy was a great move not only because now we understand the character better but also because we saw the sort of life she had before she came to be a spy so we can already have an idea that she isn't exactly a normal person.
It showed us a bit of what sort of life circumstances can lead someone to following that sort of life where they are forced to be lonely, at risk and in constant dangers.

Princess Principal seems to be comfortable shifting between genres from episode to episode, going from dark noir stories to a ball room political drama, to an all out action movie, to a sort of heist operation, to a Japanese ninja/samurai action movie, and then to a bitter tragic family story. But it remains committed to the spy theme with all of its episodes.
It just explores different aspects or angles of that theme.

Gazelle is black so she has lower IQ

>>161248686
>Maybe because the Duke didn't think it was that important
I don't see why the Duke wouldn't think it wasn't important if Control thought it was important enough to intercept and why he would get his top agent to run the mission if it was unimportant either. It makes no sense.
>Because then that risks Danny become suspicious and asking questions, or he might go back to the Duke and use that as a bargaining chip to get MORE money, except now Duke DEFINITELY knows somebody is after the cipher and will actually start paying attention.
He might do but he shouldn't be getting used in the first place if things made any sense. And even then that was literally the first thing that came to mind. Why couldn't Control just watch Danny and then steal the cipher before he gets to Gazelle?

>>161248612
For the fucking nth time.

She should know the guy had a daughter that run away.
Now the daughter appears exactly when we are searching the cipher.
Gazelle should in no way brush this off as a coincidence.

It was a case of the plot deciding what the characters do and not viceversa.

What if she killed him to close any leaks?
You can't question a dead man. They know there are enemy spies operating in the city and if he's asking for money he might talk to them later and he could give off information about Gazelle or how he was in contact with her or the nature of his mission.
Killing him means he can't be interrogated.

>>161248833
We were told she canonically killed him for the money.

>>161248790
>Gazelle should in no way brush this off as a coincidence.

Why not?
The odds of her daughter being a spy are so low the thought wouldn't cross her mind.
It was all just a massive massive coincidence.

>>161248877
Not for the money, but because he asked for the money.

>>161248880
Because coincidences are rare.

In this case, Gazelle should ask herself why a daughter that run away from his father is back to him.
Does she need to work? prostitute, illegal moonshining, there are other options for the desperate.

>>161248790
Just because Gazelle is a spy does not mean she's Sherlock Holmes or a goddamn psychic.

From the perspective of an agent working directly under a BRITISH NOBLE who has direct blood ties to the BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY, neither she nor her boss could give less of a shit about the plight of the commoners. This was still the age where it was not just socially acceptable, but EXPECTED that you literally buy your way to the top of society.

Princess is practically the only British noble who gives any sort of thought for the common person.

>>161249035
It's not about caring for the commoners, it's about being professionals and competent for fuck sake.

>>161249000
Yeah and working at the morgue, too.

What's your problem, man?

>>161249066
What part of

>ruled by nobility
>literally buying your way to the top

do you not understand? The real life British Empire had a HUGE amount of fuckups exactly because for centuries they valued bloodlines and money over meritocracy.

>>161248489
Well we know that the Germans involved with semi-auto pistol designs are doing their thing since we see P-08s and C96s.

What I find interesting is that the airships are equipped with some sort of Gatling gun instead of a Maxim/Vickers.

>>161249151
So wait, you are telling me that Gazelle is a moron who bought her way to the top? because then you agree with me.

>>161249035
The Queen cares too. She setup the school Princess attends to encourage social mobility.

>>161249115
My problem is that there is a huge difference between what we are told and what we are shown about the whole mission.

>>161249000
I disagree, a daughter running and then returning isn't that rare. It's in fact pretty common in broken families for members to separate and get together and separate multiple times.
And working with her dad wouldn't seem that unusual either, often family members help each other get jobs together.

I miss the patricide guy.

>>161249214
I'm just saying that in the context of the show and the time period it's set in, Gazelle straight up murdering a dude because he gave her lip is not surprising at all.

>>161249243
After 10 years?

>>161249239
There's not, you're just a retard.

>>161249267
It's not surprising, it's stupid and we go back to the fact that either she is a moron or she's written by one.

>>161249251
You can bet he's the one anal about Dorothy's dad

>>161248926
Then perhaps he was killed not for the money but because asking for more money than agreed made him seem like a potential liability later down the road.
In that case killing him might not have been a sudden act of improvisation but working according to a plan?

She might have been under orders to finish the deal properly if possible but if he seemed otherwise suspicious or unreliable to kill him since he was still an unstable drunk after all. Asking for more money meant he was looking for money and that means he could end selling the information to someone else if he didn't have it his way later. Which would fall under the parameters set to kill him.

>>161249308
Yes, yes there fucking is.

Jesus how can people not see that they just gave an important mission to a random drunkard with no guarantee he would get the job done?
How can people see that Gazelle is treating this like she doesn't give a shit when it doesn't make sense.

>>161249313
You're right. In a perfect world, the Duke and Gazelle SHOULD have done their due diligence and vetted Danny more thoroughly.

But this is Victorian London. Nobody with an ounce of royal blood in them has time for that shit.

>>161249168
If you are interested in weapons then this tweet from the mech designer might be of interest.
https://twitter.com/fumihilo/status/898120764875878400
Saying that they decided pretty much anything between 1890 to the first world war was OK for guns. Then mentions something about BAR I don't quite get.

>>161249251
I think this is actually a good and interesting discussion about the show for once. People genuinely engaging in actual debate about the content rather than just shitflinging, insults and repeating themselves.

>>161249368
how can people not see gazelle etc.

>>161249378
So yeah, she's a moron.
Why did you even argue with me when you agreed with me?

>>161249290
Still possible but slightly more suspicious, did he actually share that detail with Gazelle though?