Would you take advantage of a drunken Daisy?
I will kiill anyone that tries to take advantage of my wife.
No, the reward is worth.
Okay so let me get this straight. Ange has been training and working as a spy for 10 years prior to their reunion, and is pushed on to do even more work by Princess which will take god knows how long. On the other hand, Princess hasn't done a single god damn thing for 10 years. She hasn't tried to make any political connections or reached out to anyone who might be willing to help her. Basically she's been sipping tea with Beato day in and day out, and when Ange shows up she lets her continue to do all the work.
Now the question is, what the fuck does Ange see in Princess that makes her willing to go this far? It seems like she cares more about Princess herself than about taking down the wall, which is just a way for her to be with Princess out in the open. What the hell is she gonna do if Princess dies or reveals some ulterior motives?
Is there really a pussy so good that you'd sacrifice your life as royalty and put your life at risk on a daily basis?
I am a lightweight, she would drink me under the table in no time
Chise darling, tonight in your crash course on western culture we will talk about one of the greatest poets of the greek era, Sappho.
Baby please hurt me
No. I'm so sick and tired of this kind of thinking. Just because a girl is a softie to someone she loves doesn't mean she's an overly emotional or fragile person and that her tough exterior is "fake."
God fucking damn it to hell. Had Ange (or Homura) been a guy, you fuckers would have thought of them as harden soldiers with feelings at appropriate time, not fakers who break down in secret.
There is one hint that she might be softer than she lets on. When she was asked whether she would kill the dude, she kept repeating No even as she shot him.
But otherwise I agree with you.
Dorothy is genuinely a good girl.
She says so herself that if she had not ended being a spy she could have ended marrying a local baker.
Can you imagine Dorothy being a cute dorky wife baker mom? She'd be so damn adorable.
Bless her heart, her dad was so shitty and she could still see past his flaws and remained loyal, caring and kind to him until the end.
That's not to say Dorothy is a passive girl, her patience does have limits and she does have a string will but she knows how and when to show force. Love live with her would be quite spicy.
In short i wouldn't take advantage of her, I'd seduce her and make her my woman, I'd marry her and enjoy giving her the life she deserves because she is 10/10 and I'd love to have her by my side all the way.
There is a difference between having feeling and being a softie. Do you think of Snake as a softie who die inside everytime he kills somebody? If you don't, does it mean he's a coldblooded evil piece of shit? No. Then you shouldn't assume the same for Ange or Homura either. She sympathized with Eric because he's not a bad dude, and that's why she was kind enough to help his sister, nothing more nothing less.
She's not a softie but she's not ice cold either.
Either extreme interpretation of her would be flawed.
Like soldiers Ange pushes herself to do difficult things like murder or deadly stunts like going through a giant fan.
Her fears and regrets do not dissappear. She merely pushes herself forward despute them and buries those feelings.
She "lies" to herself, closes her eyes, and does what she has to do.
And soldiers can still see their buried feelings come out when they can no longer keep them at bay, it's why so many of them suffer after war.
Ange is still a young girl and she's shown she still has one's heart in many scenes so the fact that she's a professional doesn't mean that she couldn't fall apart emotionally or let herself exposed later.
Far from the fragile maiden some think she is, but not a cold stoic either.
>still no preview
So it begins.
Homura fucked up the entire universe because madoka was kind and showed he the way to the bathroom. Autistic lesbos never again.
3hz at it again
Love is like a stick of Cavorite.
First it glows beautifully and you feel light like you can fly.
Then you fly higher and higher and feel ecstatic.
Then you penetrate yourself with it and orgasm like mad.
Then the Cavorite breaks and you crash down on the ground and die naked with shards of Cavorite in your mangled pussy that gets separated all over the place like the rest of your body on impact.
Beato raped me! No more missions with Beato!
Excuse me miss, but Beatrice is a pure girl who would never do such a thing.
Maybe next ep will tell us why Princess was doing her research.
>>I'd rather them just leave it the way it is if they know they couldn't get a split/s2
>If they do that Princess will never get any spotlight though.
Oh, there are other types of stories that could allow Princess the spotlight
Like have her do some high-tension negotiation. Or put her in a casino setting
My dad is 3hz. This season we get a flashback and Normandy killed by Gazelle. Sequel is a movie but live action with Scarjo as Ange and Ellen page as Princess.
>when Beatrice starts singing in Danny's voice offscreen
she fucked up the entire universe because she couldn't stand the fact that a girl as kind as madoka would have to endure all of that fucking work which wasn't believably something she liked
instead homura took it upon herself to endure that thing and to give madoka a good, normal life
homura did nothing wrong mait
Time to get friendly with the cyborg then.
Last time I saw one was in that animu about space lesbians invading Earth. They also chicken out of killing cute girls cause they are the face of the franchise, almost like idols. In the perfect world ppk would banish with PI forever.
Are they aware of the perpetual shitposting cycle that is inherent to 4chan or do they take everything here posted at face value?
Goofy axe notwithstanding, the episode was good. The people against it simply wanted more direct spy action or moving the plot forward as we're mid-way through. Easy as that.
Thanks, glad people acknowledge who the backup girlfriend is. Beato strong.
They laid the "HER DAD IS GONNA DIE" on super thick at the end, and the axe was pretty silly, but overall it was a good episode.
It's like how in episode 5 there were a lot of iffy, off model shots but it didn't really matter because the rest of the episode was so good.
It was a beautiful and well made gaze into the characters. We got so much closer to Beato and Daisy than before it's crazy.
And the story itself was well made and paced doing a good job balancing her dad between terrible and redeemable until the end.
They executed that sort of story very well.
Meanwhile Ange already sneaks into Princess' room every night. Sometimes Chise, too.
Yeah just mentioned how some people were unhappy it was different from the other episodes being focused heavily on drama and not being exciting elaborate spy action stuff. Also seemed to pickup on that guy who really hated the dad for being a child abuser with a passion and people calling it melodramatic.
I think Beato can last 5 rounds with Charlotte~
Before I send Chise for a lizard sandwich.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say? I was one of the posters complaining about episode 6. I think it was the worst of the show so far but the reaction on 2ch was mostly positive from what I have read.
There is such a meme? 3Hz has only done 4 shows, not nearly enough to predict what they do or meme about. And I thought S2 as a rule is rare in anime these days, regardless of studio.
S2s are not all that common, but they are obviously not a possibility with 3Hz as they always tank with their shows for one reason or another.
It's funny they ended up paired with Actas, the guys who are sitting on a gold mine with GuP and still can't catch a break.
Let me put it this way, the majority of posts expressing an opinion on the episode were positive. I noticed one poster say it was the worst episode yet and another agree. Besides that everything else I saw was saying it was good.
The only other choices are
>Leave the Queen plot open
>Use the last 5 episodes to rush the queen plot
>Something happens that deviates from the Queen plot
They have a decent amount of merch prepared for this show so I think that will be the deciding factor for S2 if It's not already split.
Also I definitely wasn't trying to make out it was like episode 5 either. Positive means just that, favourable, not incredible or best thing ever. Nobody was really going crazy over it like episode 5, but at the same time most expressing an opinion were on the positive side.
Didn't ACTAS lose money on the GuP film despite it being a huge success?
>Didn't ACTAS lose money on the GuP film despite it being a huge success?
Because they spent more on production than the budged they had, so they had to put money from their pocket to finish the movie. The payment for their contract is included in the budget, so they lost their payment plus whatever they spent to get the movie done.
This really bothered me too. I can't think of any satisfactory answer as to why Ange would feel so devoted to the Princess. What the hell could have happened between 7 year olds to make her this way?
Perhaps Princess gave Ange the attention and companionship that her family never did. That's also probably why she doesn't give a flying fuck about them now considering that moving Princess up will require eliminating some family members.
Something similar to what Princess did for Beato, most likely. Ange probably didn't have any friends and her family didn't care about her, and Princess saved her from her loneliness.
>story itself was well made and paced doing a good job balancing her dad between terrible and redeemable until the end
Indeed, which is why I was surprised when I saw so many posts about disliking the episode.
I guess some people got too triggered about Dorothy getting abused and/or got reminded about their fathers.
Her dad literally had not a single redeemable moment. Not selling your daughter should be the bare minimum of human decency, and I am still not convinced about how the events played.
IS IT SUNDAY YET?
We've been infiltrated by Horikawa's spies.
>tfw the show is great but the threads are kinda boring
>Her dad literally had not a single redeemable moment.
Well, he refused to sell Dorothy to the homo and his guards, and talked about how he was going to turn his life around and spoil Dorothy all he could.
Though I agree with you, it really wasn't pulled off well at all.
Do they think we are particularly triggered by child abuse now because of that one anon losing his shit over the dad?
My problem is that I have two questions that ruin any chance of me forgiving him.
Did he actually meant what he said about his daughter to Gazelle?
And why where the thugs waiting for them at the bar? I conclude that he wanted to meet them to give them the money, but why send your daughter there?
Questions that can't be answered.
Just finished watching the episode.
What the fuck is her problem?
>Did he actually meant what he said about his daughter to Gazelle?
Well, I guess this could be left to interpretation, but I honestly don't really see any reason why he'd try to lie to Gazelle.
>And why where the thugs waiting for them at the bar? I conclude that he wanted to meet them to give them the money, but why send your daughter there?
Pretty sure he was assuming the deal would go quickly and he'd pay off the thugs before they got there.
>Why is she sitting like that?
>Maybe her butt hurts.
I love how nips are going to read that and think we're stupid
>one of my posts is in there
Nothing, I would be pretty irritated aswell if some drunkard demanded extra money for the job while spilling bullshit about his future plans instead of just completing the exchange like normal human beings.
I did, but it doesn't fit with how they were sitting there and were not surprised at all to see her. In fact, what they are surprised is that he sent two girls and not only one.
He's closer to a child that hurts people around him, I don't think he tries to be good. Look at how he treated Beato, someone who tries to be good doesn't act like that.
He'd lie to Gazelle to ask for more money without looking like the villain.
That's not possible. They start from the same position, the girls go to the bar while he goes to Gazelle and then to the bar. How could he reach the bar before Daisy?
>set a fixed price for the old drunk's service
>he tries to start re-negotiating the agreed-on money
>forgets that it's a simple matter to clean up a loose end by murdering the old, debt-riddled drunk who no one will miss
Not Daisy's dad's best moment.
he just wanted to take her out and buy nice dresses for her
>it doesn't fit with how they were sitting there
It does, because they had an appointment with him.
>and were not surprised at all to see her.
They interpreted her to be the payment.
They even said as much after she beat them up.
>Know enough Nip to not feel like an idiot reading these.
>Find my own post.
>Couldn't follow it for shit despite knowing exactly what it says.
>Feel like an even bigger idiot.
It's truly a strange feeling.
>It is the first time that negative writing has become conspicuous so far in "Princess · Principal" thread of 4chan / a / (animated board).
>It was completely divided by Anon who tears of the royal road and Anon who cuts it as a story without twist.
>Another thing that I tried to bring to a good story with a child abusing father is that it is hard to accept for some people in the country where child abuse is not stylish compared with Japan I thought.
>(In this article, America was ranked second in terms of child abuse rate and UK in fourth place)
>Just as you guessed, 4chan is a place with many twists.
>I think that it will be different again if I put together my impressions on other overseas bulletin boards such as (redacted)
You shitlords are making our Oriental brothers sad. Be more positive.
I just felt like the script and the dialogue was really stiff and unnatural, and relied a lot on the characters telling the audience what they should feel. I didn't particularly care about the dad as a character. I guess he was redeemable or forgivable, but he'd done bad things and then never really done anything good enough for me to be sad that he was getting killed or that Dorothy wouldn't be able to restart her family life (though she's a spy so it's not like there was much hope of that anyways).
But children want to be good too. They are just not very good at it. Their self-control sucks, just like his.
I'm not making excuses for him. He's human trash. But every human being wants to be a good human being. Most people are somewhat delusional about their effect on the world. He is completely delusional.
He died hours before, note that Dorothy and Beato were already out of the job, the events at the church weren't happening at the same time, they already had happened.
He tries to be good, he treated Beato like that because he's an engineer and his inner engineer was curious and fascinated by the voice moduler.
Why would he ask for more money if he originally didn't need more than what he asked for? He needs more now because Daisy came back to his life.
>He'd lie to Gazelle to ask for more money without looking like the villain.
The episode has painted him as a rather unpleasant man, but never has it shown him as a dishonest one. It's perfectly possible to be a completely honest asshole.
The guy literally ditched his work shift to go make the deal. There was presumably plenty of time between him leaving and the work shift ending for him to make the deal and reach the pub.
I think it was because he was greedy commoner basically. It shows us his life is worth less than nothing to people like her in the elite and the fact that he was causing her the slightest bit of grief was good enough reason to extinguish his pathetic life. This whole episode had a theme running through it of highlighting how poor and downtrodden some parts of society are. So Gazelle treating him like that only highlights how different Princess and Beato were as members of the upper classes when they say they want to help the poor in that one scene and show sympathy.
That comment isn't sad. Just commenting on the reality of the reaction. Some people were complaining. I found it amusing though that they think we are particularly affected by child abuse scenes compared to the Japanese and explained it was because child abuse more prevalent in the United States apparently?
Pretty sure a lot of it is cultural differences. Most western nations have at this point demonized child abuse for very obvious reasons and made it a very large issue of public concern.
Japan, meanwhile, operates under the belief that family issues stay within the family, and it's up to them to resolve their own problems.
>Tons. I have always assumed it is just random Japanese people who want to work on their English translation skills.
It's easy and interesting content, drives up traffic to their blogs. They do the same thing with Jap message boards.
My sides. They don't have autists or ip count there?
He was a good dad before.
Then lost his arm, lost his wife and finally his daughther.
His life went to full shit, that is enough to break anyone.
But he still remembered those times fondly, he accepted the wrong things he did and was sorry for it.
Then when his daughther came back and he got a chance to clear his debts he was ready to beg for forgiveness and try starting again doing things right.
Dorothy herself still loved him.
Don't you think he could have actually turned his life around now that he had a chance? It seemed like he might.
That is true but there is a particular fascination with outside reaction to Japanese things in Japan that doesn't seem present in western cultures so much. Americans don't really give a fuck what the Japanese think of hamburgers and the golden gate bridge. But Japanese would probably be interested in American reactions to equivalents in their culture.
Realistically speaking, it wasn't gonna happen.
The only faint glimmer of hope I had was because well, this is an anime. If they decided to keep him around, he might as well have turned it around because it's fiction in the end and happy endings are nice.
>That is true but there is a particular fascination with outside reaction to Japanese things in Japan that doesn't seem present in western cultures so much.
I can't speak for everyone but I always enjoy reading machine-translated Futaba threads.
I don't. He treats Beato a cruel kid treats a doll. He tries to use his daughter to get more money from a colonial with a musket axe. Nothing that has been shown to us is positive.
He would have blown through the money like an idiot if Dorothy wouldn't have been there for him every day, which she couldn't have because of her spy activities. We already saw at the morgue that he still had poor impulse control even sober and with Dorothy there.
>Americans don't really give a fuck what the Japanese think of hamburgers and the golden gate bridge.
Judging by the immense number of youtube channels centered around the notion of going around campuses or streets and asking random Japanese about Marmite, Canada, foreigners and what-not, I'd be inclined to disagree.
If the Daisydad had lied about wanting the money for his daughter, he would have phrased it differently,
He would not have emphasized what future with her he was envisioning, he would have spoken more of her hard work.
Meanwhile on 2ch
That is also true but that is us comparing western reactions to Japanese things to Japanese reactions to Japanese things. Rather than us going over to 2ch and seeing what they think about Game of Thrones or whatever.
I think they always meant to kill him.
Why else hire a drunk amputee with depression in the first place? So you can get rid of him after you are done and frame it as a casual murder without raising suspicion.
If I knew Japanese, I'd use that site to find out what they think about certain things. But I am not American, and honestly I check /a/'s archive to read what people say about my country.
I only use it because I am interested in what they think about anime because they are Japanese, anime is Japanese and I am interested in Japan. I never go looking around for what they think of the United Kingdom though really. I might casually click onto a video about it on youtube or something sometime though I suppose. Like that other anon mentioned.
>I check /a/'s archive to read what people say about my country.
>/a/ opinions on countries.
You mean finding out how high do fujos rank your country among the Hetalia husbandos?
This place isn't exactly the first to come to mind when it comes to opinions on non-Japanese countries, you know.
Speaking of countries, have any of the BDs promise to give us something like a map of the world yet?
We know Britain-Albion made it big and that Japan still exists. How about the rest of the continent, though?
I thought he was drunk when he started tweaking with Beato.
Also he used to be a technician so it makes sense.
He wasn't molesting a girl. He was fascinated with an interesting technical device. Also drunk so he got carried away playing with it.
Major scumbag but you don't get to choose your family, unfortunately. I thought it was a pretty realistic depiction of a relationship between an adult child and an abusive parent.
>Oh shit, you guys realize what this means, right?
With a confirmed run of only 1 cour and starting on case 16 for episode 1, it was pretty obvious a while ago.
Albeit they are doing a case 10.5 as a BD bonus so at least they don't throw the numbers around too haphazardly.
It means none of the remaining episodes can be case 18, right?
The disks have had release dates and pre-orders for a while now and slated only for 6 of them.
Second cour is definitely possible but they're definitely not working on anything of the sort at the moment nor were planning for it when the thing started.
A few weeks ago I never would have foresaw that Princess Principal would be outranking Fate/Shit
I make you queen for discount, miss dolothy!
The quicker the job is finished (get the tooth and dispose the destitute), the more time she has to find proper flushing victorian loo instead of the pleb pots or designated shitting bench.
>>forgets that it's a simple matter to clean up a loose end by murdering the old, debt-riddled drunk who no one will miss
But he literally just told her that he has a daughter.
Why haven't we seen a scene like this then?
Ah, right. Thought I was missing something.
Considering Russia vs British Empire was the main theme of the late 19th century for Britain, it's not that unexpected.
Even had that alliance with Japan over it.
Easy for Gazelle to assume that he is either lying about the daughter, or that since that daughter is the child of an old, debt-riddled drunk, nobody important is going to care regardless.
First of all, she didn't check what kind of family the guy she hired had.
Then, she didn't suspect about this daughter appearing like that.
Lastly, she didn't know what the daughter knew, and killing a man with a family is much harder than simply paying him at that point.
It's an important item retrieval job, she should have had a solid background check on the guy. She also should have had someone checking on what was going on, just to be sure.
If Gazelle believed that Danny's daughter was a spy it would make much more sense for her to let Danny go and follow him to his daughter then kill her than kill Danny. She clearly did not know who Dorothy was or care.
This is my fetish
If you were listening to the way the Duke and Gazelle were talking about Danny, you could clearly tell they didn't give two shits about him as long as he got the job done. As far as they were concerned, he was just one in a countless number of drunk, debt-ridden bums living in London's slums. Those guys are literally a dime a dozen.
>she should have had a solid background check on the guy
To find what? That both his wife and daughter ran off, never to be seen again? Also Gazelle didn't know that Danny's daughter came back until right before she killed him.
>That both his wife and daughter ran off, never to be seen again?
Yep. And then she hears about this daughter coming back, she thinks there are no coincidences, and tries to find out who she is. When she does, she kills Danny, because he could talk.
And.. the job WAS done. They got the cipher, just like they asked for.
They realistically had no way of knowing (or caring) that some random drunk's daughter turned up after ten years of separation and just happened to be an enemy spy as well.
All they needed was a guy who was in desperate need of money and wouldn't ask questions. Danny filled both those requirements. It's not like they were asking him to infiltrate the Commonwealth embassy or something.
Why should she think the daughter of the drunk asshole that works in the morgue because his life is ruined is anything but another drunk asshole that went to work in the morgue because her life was ruined?
Both Dorothy being used for the mission and Danny used for the mission are fairly transparent and illogical plot devices for the sake of allowing for a background episode for Dorothy. Why would they ever use a random guy rather than getting a good spy to do the job for them from their side? Control managed to infiltrate the morgue easily with their spies. Likewise there's no good reason it had to be Dorothy to do that job. One of their other spies could have achieved the same outcome.
I have to agree.
After reading everything else the anons here are saying here I still come to this conclusion.
If it actually was over the money then either of them are fucking retards.
There's just no way a random unintended and poorly motivated assassination could make sense in that content.
She'd have to improvise dealing with the corpse, make sure there is no way to trace it back to her and make sure no one else is left making questions about him.
What if the daughter he mentioned was around or knew where he was? What if anyone saw her around?
It's just a poor judgement as her first response to a request for more money.
If that was the reason and at least she had tried to negotiate with him then maybe it'd be understandable, if he had threatened to withhold the teeth or to blackmail them with a leak threat as well. But just for asking slightly more money?
The risks and burdens of taking that action do not out weight the costs and risks of it.
I do not doubt for a second that in the Duke's mind, his actual agents have better shit to do than combing through corpses. You can literally hire some random dude off the street to that and that's exactly what he did.
And the reason Control tasked Dorothy for the mission was because they had no idea how to find the body and they knew Dorothy was pretty much the only person Danny would let his guard down. Notice how after all this time, even after being chased by loan sharks who were basically on the verge of murdering his ass, he NEVER told them what he was doing? Danny may be a drunk asshole, but even he knows how to keep a secret.
Because it's an amazing coincidence? like, we are searching for this cipher, and the daughter of the man we tasked with the job showed up.
Like, the more I think about the more I realize that the told (the cipher is important) and the shown (half assed job by a drunkard) don't fit.
Even if Gazelle hates poor people, she's in a position where she should act much more logically.
Why do you type like that?
There's nothing to do with the corpse. Dude's a drunk shitter that got a machete to the face after a fight with some other drunk shitter, who cares. And to anyone who wants to ask questions, who are they going to ask them to? The police? lol, the Duke of Normandy owns the police, bitch.
>I do not doubt for a second that in the Duke's mind, his actual agents have better shit to do than combing through corpses. You can literally hire some random dude off the street to that and that's exactly what he did.
You can literally hire some dude off the street but if it is important work then why would you?
>And the reason Control tasked Dorothy for the mission was because they had no idea how to find the body and they knew Dorothy was pretty much the only person Danny would let his guard down.
The only reason they had to do that was because the Kingdom side had hired someone who it makes no real sense to hire to do important work. Even then do you really think another spy couldn't have convinced an in debt man to tell them how to find the body. It's a simple case of "what are they paying you? we will double it and make sure you are safe".
steampunk london seems to be a pretty shitty place, corpses aren't likely to be uncommon. especially since everybody who deals with the spies ends up a corpse so far. i bet she just moonwalked out of the church as cool as Jack the Ripper and didn't give it a second thought after Dorothy's dad.
This is all predicated on the murderer actually having to worry about the police or actual legal consequences.
Except this is Victorian London, where drunk deadbeats are killing each other all the time.
And the murderer's boss literally owns the police.
There was literally no downside for them just killing the guy and wiping their hands clean of the whole situation.
That just insists on the point that she's a moron with short term plans. What if the daughter saw the cypher? what can we find out about this potential spy? should I kill this man knowing that his daughter might be a spy?
Gazelle should be competent.
Gazelle did not jump out of the show and watch the episode, she doesn't have the perspective we do.
Except they never told Danny what exactly it was he was retrieving. All he was told was grab the tooth. An untrained eye is never going to recognize a cipher as anything but gibberish.
>You can literally hire some dude off the street but if it is important work then why would you?
Maybe because the Duke didn't think it was that important, especially if he had no reason to think the Commonwealth knew about the cipher.
>The only reason they had to do that was because the Kingdom side had hired someone who it makes no real sense to hire to do important work. Even then do you really think another spy couldn't have convinced an in debt man to tell them how to find the body. It's a simple case of "what are they paying you? we will double it and make sure you are safe".
Because then that risks Danny become suspicious and asking questions, or he might go back to the Duke and use that as a bargaining chip to get MORE money, except now Duke DEFINITELY knows somebody is after the cipher and will actually start paying attention.
If you were watching the episode, the Duke was basically treating the whole cipher recovery as an annoying house chore he has to take care of.
Her backstory and the spy themes of the show are not entirely disconnected though, and the episode was otherwise great.
It showed that spy work can sometimes be mundane, and it also showed that it's a dark thing that puts people at risk and often loved ones can become collateral damage. It followed the theme of exploring different aspects and layers of the spy theme but in this case it focused on something that's not the usually glamorous part.
And fleshing out Dorothy was a great move not only because now we understand the character better but also because we saw the sort of life she had before she came to be a spy so we can already have an idea that she isn't exactly a normal person.
It showed us a bit of what sort of life circumstances can lead someone to following that sort of life where they are forced to be lonely, at risk and in constant dangers.
Princess Principal seems to be comfortable shifting between genres from episode to episode, going from dark noir stories to a ball room political drama, to an all out action movie, to a sort of heist operation, to a Japanese ninja/samurai action movie, and then to a bitter tragic family story. But it remains committed to the spy theme with all of its episodes.
It just explores different aspects or angles of that theme.
>Maybe because the Duke didn't think it was that important
I don't see why the Duke wouldn't think it wasn't important if Control thought it was important enough to intercept and why he would get his top agent to run the mission if it was unimportant either. It makes no sense.
>Because then that risks Danny become suspicious and asking questions, or he might go back to the Duke and use that as a bargaining chip to get MORE money, except now Duke DEFINITELY knows somebody is after the cipher and will actually start paying attention.
He might do but he shouldn't be getting used in the first place if things made any sense. And even then that was literally the first thing that came to mind. Why couldn't Control just watch Danny and then steal the cipher before he gets to Gazelle?
For the fucking nth time.
She should know the guy had a daughter that run away.
Now the daughter appears exactly when we are searching the cipher.
Gazelle should in no way brush this off as a coincidence.
It was a case of the plot deciding what the characters do and not viceversa.
What if she killed him to close any leaks?
You can't question a dead man. They know there are enemy spies operating in the city and if he's asking for money he might talk to them later and he could give off information about Gazelle or how he was in contact with her or the nature of his mission.
Killing him means he can't be interrogated.
>Gazelle should in no way brush this off as a coincidence.
The odds of her daughter being a spy are so low the thought wouldn't cross her mind.
It was all just a massive massive coincidence.
Because coincidences are rare.
In this case, Gazelle should ask herself why a daughter that run away from his father is back to him.
Does she need to work? prostitute, illegal moonshining, there are other options for the desperate.
Just because Gazelle is a spy does not mean she's Sherlock Holmes or a goddamn psychic.
From the perspective of an agent working directly under a BRITISH NOBLE who has direct blood ties to the BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY, neither she nor her boss could give less of a shit about the plight of the commoners. This was still the age where it was not just socially acceptable, but EXPECTED that you literally buy your way to the top of society.
Princess is practically the only British noble who gives any sort of thought for the common person.
What part of
>ruled by nobility
>literally buying your way to the top
do you not understand? The real life British Empire had a HUGE amount of fuckups exactly because for centuries they valued bloodlines and money over meritocracy.
Well we know that the Germans involved with semi-auto pistol designs are doing their thing since we see P-08s and C96s.
What I find interesting is that the airships are equipped with some sort of Gatling gun instead of a Maxim/Vickers.
I disagree, a daughter running and then returning isn't that rare. It's in fact pretty common in broken families for members to separate and get together and separate multiple times.
And working with her dad wouldn't seem that unusual either, often family members help each other get jobs together.
Then perhaps he was killed not for the money but because asking for more money than agreed made him seem like a potential liability later down the road.
In that case killing him might not have been a sudden act of improvisation but working according to a plan?
She might have been under orders to finish the deal properly if possible but if he seemed otherwise suspicious or unreliable to kill him since he was still an unstable drunk after all. Asking for more money meant he was looking for money and that means he could end selling the information to someone else if he didn't have it his way later. Which would fall under the parameters set to kill him.
Yes, yes there fucking is.
Jesus how can people not see that they just gave an important mission to a random drunkard with no guarantee he would get the job done?
How can people see that Gazelle is treating this like she doesn't give a shit when it doesn't make sense.
You're right. In a perfect world, the Duke and Gazelle SHOULD have done their due diligence and vetted Danny more thoroughly.
But this is Victorian London. Nobody with an ounce of royal blood in them has time for that shit.
If you are interested in weapons then this tweet from the mech designer might be of interest.
Saying that they decided pretty much anything between 1890 to the first world war was OK for guns. Then mentions something about BAR I don't quite get.
I think this is actually a good and interesting discussion about the show for once. People genuinely engaging in actual debate about the content rather than just shitflinging, insults and repeating themselves.
That's exactly what's happening you sod.
>i think gazelle is dumb for not investigating!
>gazelle she has no reason to suspect danny's daughter to be anything special (or to care about it)
>BUT SHE SHOULD HAVE INVESTIGATED
>but why should she
>but why should she
>but why should she
Is Ange better with or without her glasses?
I think people when they get really into points like this are just expecting way too much from the show to be honest. I have said this time and time again but there are lots of little things that if it was more realistic and better thought out just wouldn't be part of the script. That isn't to say I think it is bad or anything it is perfectly entertaining. But to me it will never make sense to use Danny in the first place if the work is important and even if they made it make sense to use Danny it still doesn't make sense to get Dorothy to do it. They could have easily just taken the cipher from him when he found it by watching him.
Why are people in Japan memeing this show with Pringles?
I see it as Control giving the task to a team that's already proven to be reliable and highly successful.
As we've seen in Case 9, one of their non-PriPri spies was outed pretty easily and that nearly torpedoed the entire mission.
Well we don't know the real position of the Duke.
If he had an available full time reliable and trustworthy guy and enough extra money to pay him to be full time at the morgue checking corpses then yeah of course he should have gone for it.
But what if he didn't?
There's enough plausible scenarios where hiring someone who is just barely reliable-enough for the job would make sense.
At least Dorothy's dad wasn't smart or ambitious or sneaky enough to try and blackmail or deflect or take advantage of his position, he wasn't really involved with any of the Duke's other activities either so it's not like he could accidentally fuck things up by connecting him to himself or accidentally exposing some sensitive information, the fact that it was a stranger in some ways made him a safer pick for a job and the fact that he was a drunk lowlife made him somewhat safer and easier to control as well.
Also this guy was going to be working at the morgue constantly so it couldn't be someone who was a known ally of the Duke like Gazelle herself or they would have been exposed if any of their enemies decided to go and check there.
Delegating a mission with all the requirements of that one down to Dorothy's dad does seem potentially reasonable.
I think you can easily read lots of explanations into the situation to give motivations to the characters that make the story make sense I wouldn't argue with that. But I think it is fairly clear they wanted to do a Dorothy backstory episode with her father and then came up with a story to allow them to do that and it probably wasn't the best thought out way of doing it they could have come up with. It seems a little flimsy when you probe it past the surface and actually think about it deeply and leaves a lot of questions about the competency, motivations, logic and so on of the characters and their organisations that I don't think are really intended to be raised by the episode at all.
Honestly I'd rather have something that lacks details but has the door open to many possible scenarios that would make sense over something that's poorly made and tries to explain everything but falls short from being interesting or making sense.
I agree with you, you're right. It's clear they wanted to write a Dorothy focused episode first, a Dorothy x Beato bonding episode second and left the logic behind the plot as possible last priority. But I didn't find the actual episode bad because it executed well what it what was actually the focus of it and it was still plausible and fit as part of the greater narrative and context of the show and I don't find their choice of priorities objectionable because it was an interesting experience to see the characters from the angle of a more emotion-driven story.
Fee fo fug, I smell the blood of a queer mouse.
I'm sorry for being a brainlet but what was Chise lying about
It's actually pretty loose by one piece suit standards.
It also makes me wonder have we ever seen Beato's whole body? Her legs, her arms, her tummy, her chest?
Just what sort of cyborg secrets is she hiding huh?
She's already stolen my heart.
Yeah she's a bit out of her element when it comes to cocksmokers, as you're demostrating.
Beato's for an Ange and Princess sandwich. Dorothy would beat her up aftter losing an arm in a mission.
Going through our old thread is fun. I remember all those things I saw in the show and we then discussed again.
Like that time Beato began singing, she sure was cute.
Or that time the girls were making fun of Ange and Chise and they actually reacted in a somewhat self aware way about it and they knew they were being mocked a bit.
Girls don't have penises. Stop talking about penises
>I'm... an imposter. That girl is the real Princess Charlotte!
I am so mad, like unbelievably mad, at all of you anons for the mean and hurtful things you say about Beato. she is a beautiful, nice, kind-hearted girl. it's not her fault that her dad put a machine in her throat. it's not her fault that she's part cyborg part girl. it's not her fault that she has a built-in mute switch and that her dad probably installed that so nobody could hear her scream. she's a beautiful and kind and sweet girl who just wants to protect her best friend. every one of you would be lucky to meet a girl who cared half as much about you as Beato does for her Hime-sama. it's not her fault that she's like the loli equivalent of Microsoft Sam. her dad did that to her. it's not her fault that she has to oil her neck to keep her head from falling off. it's not her fault that she can't pass recaptcha. it's not her fault that she can't go clothing shopping because she sets off the magnet detectors at Forever 21. it's not her fault that her favourite type of music is Heavy Metal. she's a beautiful girl and you all should be nicer to her. it's not her fault that her gynecologist is Mr. Lube. she's a lovely girl with a heart of gold.
Chise wants to sumo wlestre Ange like Hime-sama.
>Bottle in hand
What does it mean
Updated with whatever the fuck else I found
ALL ABOARD S.S. DAITTO !
We're sailing beyond the wall and leaving the black lizards behind.
Sexy old dork + cyborg loli=purest love.
Victorian nannies. Beato's taking care of ange and princess' cavorite hellspawn in casablanca.
I WON'T HESITATE MOTHER FUCKER