This side say it is not gay because they are attracted to the

>>161229400
Astolfo is a girl until we see dick

>>161229400
its a boy so its gay

>>161229400
Reminder that they gave this faglord a bikini.

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>>161229400
how about you just do whatever makes you happy bro

>>161229400
It has a dick, so it's gay

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Liking feminine boys is gay.
Liking masculine women is straight.

>2d
not gay
>3d
gay if you know its a boy

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>>161229400
When you have doubts on whether it's gay or not, it's gay. gay as fuck.

>>161229400
Does it matter? It's not like you're going to stop fapping to him.

>>161230711
What if I'm confident that it's not gay?

>>161229400
2D traps are not gay, because it is not a real dick and thus any perceived gayness cannot be said to have been founded in anything real.

3D traps are gay because it's an actual dick.

>>161229400
Yes.

>>161230761
By that logic, bara yaoi is not gay.
You fag.

There is no such thing as a girl with a dick, just a guy with tits.

>>161230780
Nah bara is just different entirely and is extremely homo.

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Can girls love girls?

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See this.
Do what?

Who cares about labels. Just jerk off to whatever you like.

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Why would a man, no a paladin wear garterbelts?

If your genitals matches theirs, then it's gay. No if or buts.

>>161229400
It's not gay to like traps so long as you think of them as women

>>161232212
FGO CEs.

>>161232234
I'm looking but I'm not finding it. Is it on the wiki? I didn't see it on danbooru

Even if it's not gay to be aroused by a male 2D character with feminine features (ie: draw a girl call it a guy) liking Astolfo is just downright criminal. He's a terrible character that is only defined by his need to please the audience with his trap behaviour. He makes even less sense than all of the gender-bending in the fate franchise.

Now excuse me while I go away to calm my autism.

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>>161232298
Your googlefu is even more gay than your taste.

>>161232409
Yes I know

>>161229400
Would lick his balls.
100% str8 no b8 m8.

It's gay because by saying it's a trap you immediately become aware that it has a dick so if you have a trap fetish then you literally have a fetish for dicks.
The only excuse is if you didn't know it was a boy in which case it can't be classified as a fetish because you didn't have knowledge.
So:
Being attracted to a trap before you know it is a trap is not gay
Being attracted specifically to traps is hella gay

>>161230528
I love /ss/ !

I'd feel so bad if I summoned Frankenstein, because I couldn't bring myself to make such a beautiful and pure girl fight to the death.

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I want to sniff and lick her feet.

>>161232063
What a puffy vulva!

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https://twitter.com/aiyoriakashi/status/874340883574931456/photo/1

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>>161229400
>This side say it is not gay because they are attracted to the feminine features.
>they are attracted to the feminine features.

>>161231329
Watch better anime.

>>161229400
traps r gay

>>161236412
Cute!

>>161229400

>2017

Are we still having this discussion? I thought you moved past this /a/.

>>161229400
does astolfo has a canon boyfriend?

>>161229400

>explicitly drawn as a girl
>if was said it was a girl no one would be surprised
>call it a boy

Not gay under the notion that it's a drawn character without any explicit distinction it's a dude, past "hey this is a bloke!"

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The fact that he's a boy is what turns you faggots on. The taboo makes it exciting, and if Astolfo was a girl most of you wouldn't give a fuck about "her".

>>161237863
Anon, she's a girl with a a penis.

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>>161237894
Girls have vaginas, even the vast majority of futanari has them with vaginas. I'm afraid that asspussies by themselves don't count.

>>161234040
What if you like traps because you want to be one without sucking dicks and taking actual dicks up the ass?

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I wanna make Astolfo orgasm!

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What did he mean by this?

>>161239817
Me in the middle

>>161229494
fpbp

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Part of me is glad that traps aren't real.

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Astolfo gives you this look and says he wanna top, do you accept?

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>>161240514
I tell him he'd have to take me

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>>161240550
Well he is a heroic spirit, it may not look like it but he is stronger than a human, if he really wanted he could bend you over and fuck you.

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>>161240742
He probably could, I just want to make it fun for him.
So long as it's only occasional and I'm his master the rest of the time, why not add some variety?

2D traps are more gay then most vanilla guy-on-girl stuff, but they are relatively tame fetish. The hentai hole goes deep.
It's very common for people who like 2D traps to not enjoy 3D ones. You know why? Because they are not fucking real, they are drawings based on ideal figures of girly looking boys.
Notice how trap cosplayers almost always hide their face, either with masks or by shooting pictures below the neck-level? That's because you can not get same kind of effect in real life. Investing in make-up and other shit to get their face looking right is just too much work for simple kink for most people. And even if they do it, they will never shoot video with voices, because boys sound different from girls, hearing actual dude's voice breaks the magic. How many hentai series actually make a note of trap sounding like a guy? I can think of exactly one.
Yes, boys can get their voices to sound like girls' with shitton of practice, but traps in manga and anime are never implied to be doing that, because they are not based on reality in any way. They are just incredinly cute and girly looking boys.

...Though there might be some miss-communication happening here. If you are using the old term of "trap", that is, loading a picture of what you assume to be a sexy girl, boobs and all, but it turns out SHE HAS A PENIS OH NO! She's a shemale, you got TRAPPED!
Liking shemale porn is pretty fucking gay. Especially since lots of that involves hunky dudes being fucked in the ass by them.

>>161240888
Hey man, shemales can really get close to the 2D trap magic with all their surgery and hormones and crap.

For 10 years or so, there have been a handful of /b/ threads where people debate whether traps are gay, share trap porn, and post pictures of their shaved legs. Please use them instead.

Trap threads manage to be considerably more obnoxious than regular porn threads, because posters spam boypussy and girl (male), abuse spoilertext, punctuate with tildes, and ERP with one another. As far as OC to traffic ratios are concerned, they're terrible threads. They're cancer in the classic sense, something that spreads despite being generally considered awful.

They're also full of camwhoring and /soc/ content. A nontrivial number of the people behind them are moral lepers who get off on convincing seventeen year old weebs that if they don't take HRT they will spend the rest of their lives alone. Transitioning is not a solution to social isolation and pornography addiction, the five or ten years of free attention and affection before your looks fade don't make up for everything that comes after that.

/a/ is not as good as it used to be, but it still has a unique culture that produces some interesting things.

Trap threads never produce anything other than dating drama, gender dysphoria, and leg pics. Trannies, traps, and chasers are the most cancerous bunch on 4chan, and had a significant role in ruining /b/, g, and /r9k/, as well as continually lowering the quality of several other media boards. No other fetishists have killed boards like you guys.

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>>161241185
But are traps gay?

>>161241185
That is speaking from assumption that trap refers to real-life crossdressers.
Anime is not real, therefore 2D traps should not be held to same standards as IRL ones are.

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So many wrong opinions in this thread. Let me break this down for you niggas:

Traps are gay as fuck. Nobody who's straight would make sure they look this feminine.

Liking traps is the same as liking a female character, except if you like the fact that they're a boy. Remember: the formula is "draw a girl and call it a boy." Imagine if Aqua was revealed to be a trap.

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>>161229400
Truly the greatest debate man has ever encountered.

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>>161241240
It's impossible for a butt this lewd to be gay

>>161229400
It's the former but political activists will try to claim it's the latter because in 2017 every thing in existence is about politics.

it's a fictional character so it doesn't matter

>>161244195
I wanna kiss him for hours.

>>161244195
I love this pose or whatever you call it. Always makes the character look so submissive

>>161229400
It doesn't matter unless you're uncomfortable with your masculinity or are just looking for something to make fun of others for.

Otherwise, the question is simply whether or not you're willing to fuck it.

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Did you know he can play guitar?

>>161230753
Then that's not gay, but you are

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>>161229400

I think it's silly to be worried about your sexuality because you like a girly boy, and I think it's stupid to genuinely be worried over whether it's okay to like someone (even if that someone is an anime boy and it's a meme to most people anyway).
To me, calling yourself staunchy gay or straight is like saying you ONLY enjoy action movies. Sure you might mostly like them, but you're not against a romance every now and then. Maybe, I don't know your tastes. You can even like guys and not like penis if you want. That's how I feel about girls sometimes.
Plus, you know, bi/pan is a thing if you really want to label yourself that desperately

tl;dr don't deny yourself enjoyment because you're afraid of some label you/others might put on you

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>>161229400
I love it when the banner is appropriate for the thread.

>>161246098
>sincerity reeee
I know this is a sincere response to what is most likely a meme thread, but as long as there's a chance that someone on here is genuinely confused, I just wanted to give my opinion. I've seen people genuinely confused by things like these before

>>161232063
So the stockings don't keep falling down.

>>161229400
alrifght

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>>161237410
Maybe his cousin Roland

Who cares what's considered gay or not? Just enjoy yourself, for fucks sake.

>>161250309
Is he really his cousin?

>>161250605
Yes. Astolfo became one of the peers because his cousin was the captain of the 12 peers

>>161237410
Me

>>161237967
Feminine penis Anon

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>it's another weekly and OBLIGATORY "traps are not gay" thread episode
Seriously, never change, /a/.

>>161232409
That tight toned stomach is amazing

>>161232063
Skirts were originally used by the romans because they allow more mobility in the battlefield.

>>161229400
Neither

Astolfo is a retarded trap

>>161251123
These threads are pretty much here every day. Sometimes more than one at once. I don't mind though as people usually start posting images.

>>161250669
was his cousin and him were also hard gay too?

>>161230711
Wise words anon, wise words

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Is this an accurate depiction of an astolfofag?

>>161229400
It's not gay until balls are touching.

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>>161252420
Yes

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>>161230528
That got out of hand quickly.

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>>161241185
lurk moar.

Traps may be gay, but Astolfo isn't. Astolfo is everything but gay.

>>161245700
There is most likely a tag for it linking to many more images and names of whole series w/ heavy bdsm themes.

>>161246173
You are the cancer.

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>>161229400
Astolfo is a man! MAN!

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>>161253791

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>>161253791
Just because someone is a man doesn't mean he can't be a girl.

Either you're exclusively into women and accidentally find a trap hot for it's feminine features, or you're actively seeking out dicks, it's not rocket science. It's not wrong to like dick in the first place anyway.

>>161253889
Ok, I shouldn't be aroused.

>>161245999
Wouldn't be the other way around?

>>161230528
what happens if something that makes you happy in the short run makes you miserable in the long run

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS

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>>161254662
Well then you probably have poor self-control and should put that bottle down anon. Its only thursday and you don't even have anything to celebrate.

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>>161229400
I'm glad the doujins at c92 are getting scanned

I can understand having a pink hair, ok maybe you can't control that

I understand having long hair, that looks alright on some people

But why the fuck would you tie it with little cute bows, that's gay man

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Captcha: STOP STOP

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>>161256285
Yeah, he is man and is fighting in a grail war, he should look more menacing. Stop looking cute silly Astolfo.

>>161256285
It's part of his backstory, he got it from Roland when he crossdressed in order to calm the guy down. He considers the ribbons a "mark of friendship".

>>161229400
There's nothing gay about liking a trap as long as you're not sexually attracted to him.

>>161240324
Why is that anon?

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>>161229400
The correct side says that there is no such thing as gay, only what parts you have and what you happen to have fetishized.

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It doesn't exist, it has no sexual or age orientation. You can't be considered "gay" for liking a drawing you're perceiving as a female that was drawn with incredibly feminine features. If you like real traps, however, you're bisexual (Maybe even just full on repressed gay).

>>161257124
Sauce

whatever
sexuality isnt black and white, get off what you get off to.

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>>161253791
>>161253791
>Sieg rolled up the sheets, revealling the Astolfo that was wrapped around his legs. In spite of the turmoil that just ocrred, he was still soundly asleep, a far cry from the image of a Servant protecting his Master. But more importantly...

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>>161258801

>>161229400
thats a girl, question answered

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>>161231329
giving a boy a girls voice a face like this and a butt like that should not be allowed

>>161259140
who was this from anyway?

>>161259184
ranpo kitan she was a trainee detective or some shit

I want to see her go all crazy-eye and kick major ass. Will this happen?

I don't see why nobody makes X/Y chromosome differentiation.

I mean, if you have a Y, they have a Y, it's not too hard to make sense of it...

On the other hand, if you don't have a Y it's not gay.

Simple, right?

What chromosomes do hermaphrodites have again? Could explain futa.

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They want you to believe this is gay


>>161260850
The entire argument is just a way of getting free bumps for trap threads. Actually caring about it should be way behind you by now.

>>161260932

That explains a lot, actually.

Too bad I'm a sucker that can't handle seeing opinions stated without my two cents.

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>>161229400
I don't really care who's right, I just want to bugger Astolfo's butt.

The problem isn't that you though "X is cute" and got tricked, the problem is you keep coming back for it knowing full well it's a dude.

So yeah. Gay as fuck.

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>>161262007
>the problem is you keep coming knowing full well it's a dude.
Yup

>>161262007
The worst part is when they trick you and fuck your ass instead. I hate when this happens.

>>161262063
I heard Astolfo fucked Siegfried off-screen.

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>>161262007
It's not a "dude"; it's a drawing that looks like a girl you fucking autist.

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Free bumps!

I want to cut off the white strand he has in his hair

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>>161262145
I just noticed that the artist fucked up when they uploaded this image to pixiv

>>161229400
The answer is, who cares as long as its cute. Seriously, the concept of gay or straight is extremely primitive and stupid. Just think what our descendants will think of the idea in 10000 years. So, if they won't care, why should we?

>>161257124
I need to check if I'm gay by trying to fap to the full doujin of that. Sauce? For science?

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>>161262215
Why do you think the roman republic collapsed? The senate spent all their time arguing about traps instead of maintaining the empire

>>161229400
Trapfags are fucking faggots since the majority of them prefer a guy going on traps than a girl

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>>161262313
Yes, and?

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Dick or not , im into it
Gay or not, still into it

>>161229400
Easy: you have shit taste.

>>161229400
It's gay by definition, but by psychology is a different issue entirely.