Tomo-chan

Misuzu is certainly not impressed

>>161217264
Is he saying he's gay or something, I'm starting to get bored of this manga

>>161217264
Looks like she's feeling identified or that she just realized about something with her other couple problem. Maybe she'll realize about Jun not wanting to lose a friend

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>>161217264
Title: Hard to tackle
Panel 1
Senpai: Carol is different from me. She's really strong. I've known her for a long time and I've never seen her show any weakness.
Panel 2
Senpai: I should have been attracted to that strength, but...when I thought about it turning into a deeper connection, I got scared.
Panel 3
Senpai: I wondered if, no matter how sweetly I whispered love in her ear, or how coldly I pushed her away, she would just take it like it was completely natural...
Panel 4
Senpai: It's not that I want her to be hurt...it's not that at all...
Misuzu: (So that's the problem...as I thought.)

>>161217710
>Whispered love in her ear
When did we get this lewd?

>>161217710
So, he's saying that Carol is crazy girl that never shows any kind of emotion. Something like a lifeless doll

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>>161217710
>>161217756

>>161217710
I literally skipped a lot of chapters/threads and now I came back it's still boring. Like I get it senpai you're gay. I want Jun and Misuzu banter again.

>>161217264
i have seen this before

>>161217710

welp, time for Carol to rape Jun again.

>>161217264
>they degrade the quality so far that the kanji pronounciation is basically unreadable
98.5% japanese my ass
there's jews over there

>>161217264
I actually don't get it

>>161217422
>starting

>>161217710
>Senpai: I wondered if, no matter how sweetly I whispered love in her ear, or how coldly I pushed her away, she would just take it like it was completely natural...
Oh my god, no guy thinks like this, what the fuck kinda upbringing did he have?

wheres tomo? havent seen her in forever beside that one where jun runs after carol scares him

>>161217965
You see, Tomo is ultimately about how humanity doesn't learn from it's mistakes and the hipocrisy of the people who claim to try to "help" each other.

They're all making the same mistakes while trying to fix it in other's lives...

>>161217710
>sweetly I whispered love in her ear,
damn senpai, you want to hold her had too don't you?

>>161218007
He was best friends with Carol for most of his life. That'd fuck anyone up.

So what I'm getting out of this is that Jun needs to make a direct move on Tomo and Carol needs to physically mount Senpai for any progress to occur.

I'll see you all in 500 more chapters.

>>161218205
nay, senator.
carol needs to cry in front of senpai.
same goes for tomo.
I wonder who could arrange that?

>>161218247
This
Tomo has to show some of her girly side towards Jun directly (and not wearing a costume) and Carol has to be less of a robot in front of sempai and show off more than one expression in her face

>>161217710
I don't get it. I DON'T GET IT.

>>161217264
Why do all the guys in this manga have fucking inferiority complexes? There can be other reasons for not making a move on a girl you like jesus christ.

>>161218328
>less of a robot
Man, she even had the same stupid look on her face when she was sitting half naked in that alley.

>>161218328
>>161218386
What if Carol stays strong in front of Senpai cause she thinks he's such a weakling?

>>161218380
>Senpai: It's not that I want her to be hurt...it's not that at all...

It's not even an inferiority complex, hell, he just explicitly tried to make sure Misuzu understood it wasn't. He just thinks Carol acting like a doll to everything is fucking creepy and not fit for a proper relationship.

>>161218353
I think he's saying he never confessed or rejected her because he's worried Carol wouldn't really care either way.

>>161218328
But the entire point of the last arc was that it's not Tomo's fault at this point but that Jun can't see her as a girl until they fulfill their "promise as boys".

Basically Fumita has found an excuse to keep status quo endlessly until they are suddenly able to get over their respective inferiority complexes.

>>161218457
>Wouldn't care either way
It'd probably be something like this
>Sorry Carol, I don't like you
>Okay!
>Yes Carol, I love you!
>Okay~!

>>161218472
well considering it was always the thing keeping them from getting together i dunno about calling it an excuse.

Fumita's attempt on making these boring ass character seem "complex", or to have any depth whatsoever, is absolutely laughable. Not only that, he is ret-conning this whole "senpai liked Carol all along" thing. None of that would make sense if we went through earlier chapters, everything pointed to him liking Tomo instead of her. This series is a complete joke, only saving grace is that the character designs of the main girls are absolutely delicious. Hopefully, one day Fumita draws a doujin with the characters of this manga, as an apology for making us go through this pile of shit. </rant>

>>161218443
>I should have been attracted to that strength, but...when I thought about it turning into a deeper connection, I got scared.
He literally says he's inferior to her.

>>161218595
man please fuck off with your terrible attempts at observations

>>161218595
Welcome to 95% of Japanese manga/anime writers.
Most are retards that don't know how to write shit, they can just draw a pair of tits and ass real good.

>>161218007
You sound like an underage faggot.

>>161218700
>He actually enjoys this pile of shit of a series

>>161218768
He should definitely stick to hentai.

Tomo-chans popularity was a mistake. Instead of fun daily pixiv chicken scratch about making a tomboy blush we get this garbage.

>>161218909
>he actually goes out of his way to shit on relatively good manga
man you think people can't know when someone's underage, this is how you can know

>>161218953
>>he actually goes out of his way to shit on relatively good manga
>>161218953
>man you think people can't know when someone's underage, this is how you can know
I sure CAN KNOW that this is bait, no one with a working brain would call this a relatively good manga.

>hurr hurr you are underage
Never mind, I see that you are most definitely his target audience. Carry on.

>>161218953
Just because you like it, doesn't mean it's good.

>>161219029
>this level of bait
is it still summer?

>>161219029
are literally every other shounen thread just tired of your shit?

>>161219029
If you don't like it, fuck off.

>>161219082
>>161219098
>>161219065
>All these butthurt Tomo fags when people call this pile of shit for what it is

>>161218007
He's basically just afraid that she wouldn't care either way about the confession. I'm sure that's a relatable feeling.

>>161219141
>>>/v/

I am honestly blown away that people actually think this manga is good. Even after the latest 3 chapters. Holy fuck.

>>161217710
>I love Carol
>but I want her not to be Carol
What the fuck?

>>161219291
she's obv a great girl, but she has a guard higher than china against the mongols.

>>161219291
he loves her boobs

>>161219325
yeah, but that's literally who she is.

>>161217710
It's interesting. Senpai's feelings towards Carol almost completely mirror Juns feelings for Tomo. Only Senpai actually can say it out loud.

>>161219327
that would actually be an interesting twist if senpai was just a piece of shit who was only sexually attracted to carol.

>>161219355
if she really was invulnerable, she wouldn't be looking for love.

>>161219370
well the problems are pretty similar.
Tomo has a side she never shows anyone, and it's so ingrained that she's forgotten about it.

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>>161219145
So he's just a spineless faggot who can't confess (like every male in this manga) at the end of the day.

>>161219433
>Tomo has a side she never shows anyone
what are you talking about?
>>161219401
Says you.

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>>161219436
>>161219145
his fear is probably correct, fwiw.

>>161219482
the part of her personality that's actually a girl. Jun's never actually seen it, only the physical part.

>Says you.
it's kind of the fucking point, anon.

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>>161219426
So he is literally worried she is an unfeeling sociopath?

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>>161219426
>I fell in love with Carol
>But then I realized Carol is a sociopath
>Now I'm just afraid

This seems incredibly rational.

>>161219533
>the part of her personality that's actually a girl. Jun's never actually seen it
It was literally manufactured by Misuzu. If Jun is in love with "girl Tomo", then he's in love with Misuzu + Tomo.

>>161219496
Carols mother was stunted mentally by having Carol at such a young age. Carol was stunted mentally by having such a young mother. Will the cycle continue?

>>161219547
>>161219543
Senpai is the most level-headed character, after all

>>161219644
Carol is already past her prime in terms of breedability.

>>161217710
It's actually hilarious that they're addressing how Carol is a literal alien

>>161219578
the outfits certainly were. she's shown the camera her girly side, but Jun has always either never realized it or was never there when it was obvious. No matter how similar the two of them are, they're still a man and a woman. Tomo has something she's never been able to show Jun.
Like I've said for two threads now, she needs to cry in front of him.

>>161218953
>relatively good manga
>tomo-chan
the series is literally pulled by the merit of its first 200 chapters because right now it has fuck all going on, and its felt that way for almost a year now

come to think of it I actually dated a girl a little like carol.
completely unreadable, she made it impossible to judge the situation. I don't envy senpai.

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>>161219547

Not to sound edgy, but aren't sociopaths the kind of people that view the murder and deaths of others as necessary means to an end if left with no ultimatum?

Seems like my kind of people.

>>161217264
NOT IN MY ASS YOU FUCKING HOMO

>>161219578
>then he's in love with Misuzu + Tomo.

What the hell are you smoking. Just because Misuzu goes out of his way to push her into doing things she wouldn't normally do, it doesn't mean she's pupeteering her.

never stick your dick in crazy.

>>161219747
>memes
It shifted, it didn't go to shit. Embarassed tomboy shenanigans don't push the story forward.

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>>161219426
I seriously don't understand what his problem is. He doesn't want to confess his love because its too natural?

>>161219773
Tell that to the dead threads. There's clearly no point in arguing with you though, you're that guy that defends Fumitas writing to the death.

>>161219769
>girly tomo = tomo who does girl stuff
>girl stuff introduced to tomo as a way to win Jun by misuzu

shut up kike, how is that difficult logic? She'd never do girl stuff if she wasn't coerced. She didn't even want to wear a yukata.

>>161219776
>>161218507's post sums it up pretty well. He basically feels like Carol doesn't seem to give a shit about literally anything either way from everything he's seen, and that would include him even if they became a couple.

>>161219806
good manga and HYPE HAPPENINGS aren't mutually inclusive.
second part, back at you.

>>161219761

Not really, they're not even necessarily a 'means to an end' mindset, sociopaths are just unable to sympathise with others, so it's more like 'means to MY end' in terms of what they do.

>>161219862

Sorry, *empathise with others.

>>161219426
So the author is trying to say that there's a downside to being invincible?

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>>161219773
>I can't walk and breathe at the same time
Read Ojojojo or some other 4-koma, kid. You don't need to change the character dynamics to progress the narrative. Characters can retain their personalities and humorous interactions while still growing and developing.

>>161219547
This would be way too interesting for Fumita to have actually thought it through. If Fumita actually intended it, then I would be legit impressed.

>>161219426
>dropout

>>161219945
Why even argue with him? He's convinced Fumita is a literary god.

>>161219962

Hard to imagine she's a sociopath since she was able to notice Misuzu's feelings + the fact that she is at least somewhat attracted to senpai beyond his looks.

>>161219773
>push the story forward
>tomo-chan
???

>>161219832
You're being too extreme. Just because someone receives love advice doesn't mean they're faking their personality. And if Jun and Tomo got together, it'd already mean they see each other as man and woman, so there wouldn't be need of further 'girlifying' Tomo, which is only a thing they're doing to get Tomo out of the friendzone. Also, more importantly, Jun liked Tomo since chapter 1, so.

>>161219945
amano megumi technically has, but the story is like one-note.

>>161219761
You're thinking of psychopath, which tends to go hand in hand with sociopath.

>>161219970
anon i know you're salty but there's no reason to lie

>>161219962
I'd love to see Fumita take a page from fruits basket or karekano and have early-manga gag traits end up being caused by deeply traumatic psychological scars.

>>161220064
>Fruits Basket
Seriously? I thought it would be a generic shoujo manga, I need to finish that manga.

>>161219999
Yeah, but he doesn't know that yet. We only know it because we are the readers, but on his eyes, she could legit be a sociopath. Obviously, this isn't the reason, this is Fumita after all, senpai is just being a typical faggot.

>>161220064

> I'm actually always so bright and upbeat because I've been consciously copying my dead father's positivity so my mother would pay attention to me and stop acting suicidal.

Fruits basket was pretty hardcore later on.

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>>161220021
Personality? Fumita doesn't like doing girl stuff. Period. Claiming she has a "girly side" is retarded. She went to the batting cages on her date for fucks sake. Misuzu and Carol just occasionally dress her up and push her into doing something she doesn't want to do. Misuzu cops to it in a page

>>161219945
> You don't need to change the character dynamics to progress the narrative.

???????

How do you even progress the narrative of a character-driven manga without changing character dynamics? Are you retarded? Do you even read what you write?

I miss Tomo.

>>161220131
>Seriously? I thought it would be a generic shoujo manga
It drops the reverse harem cliche garbage and goes through a pretty radical shift into full insanity around volume 14.
FeMC's Misuzu-ish friend A was literally forced to swallow a live frog as a child

>>161220196
Not him but how do you explain Misuzu? And more importantly Carol? She's been stuck with the same face and the same personality since she was introduced. Not only that, the manga shows us she's been stuck like this since she was a child. Literally nothing about her has changed, yet she's supposed to be a major character. Are you implying this manga has no progress?

>>161220203
Not gonna read your spoiler, but I appreciate it famalam. I will legit get to read it.

>>161220196
>How do you even progress the narrative of a character-driven manga without changing character dynamics?
Easily? Is Tomo-chan the only manga (or story in general) you've ever read? I've seen plenty of (most) manga where the couple gets together with their original personalities intact dumbass.

>>161220272
>>161220203
Nvm, I couldn't contain it, and read it. What the fuck?

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>>161220269
what you guys are citing as reasons that the girls don't have to change themselves to progress, are literally the reasons they can't progress.

>>161220197
>when the main character is absent from her own manga
tomboys can't win

>>161220269
I'm not going to say anything you don't already know, it does, but it moves at the pace of snail. Probably because it's a 4-koma, and the focus other than the romance are the jokes.

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>>161217264
Soon

>>161220328
>because it's a 4-koma
Stop using this as an argument.

>>161220276
I'm sorry, I'm missing something, how do you think Tomo and Jun changed since the beginning?

>>161220303
I'm not saying anything of the sort. I'd love it if Tomo was actually a girl inside, but as the story is written, she's not.
Ideally, if I were writing this manga, I'd have had Tomo becoming girlier, and Jun unconsciously reacting to that with raw sexual instinct; eliciting cute blushing and doki from her.

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>>161220307
The power of worst girl overcomes that of the tomboy. If a tomboy is worst girl, she may still win.

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>>161220383
>how do you think Tomo and Jun changed since the beginning?
Is this a joke?

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>>161220409
>I'd have had Tomo becoming girlier

>>161220354
It's not an argument, it's a guess, I don't care why there's little progress in this series. A manga doesn't need to have a reason for not having actual plot development, as long as it's not boring. Which in this case is debatable, whatever.

>>161220448
It's time-tested. I can name a half dozen or so lengthy romcoms where the girl starts all boyish and ends with everyone wanting to fuck her because of gap moe.

>>161220423
I'm now starting to remember how annoying Suzuka was. What a horrible FMC, her bitchyness never went away.

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How much longer?

>>161220409
it doesn't matter what you want it to be, the page you were citing is showing why she needs to not do that on a date.
>>161220448
she doesn't even need to become more girly in general, but she needs to show jun something about her personality that isn't like a guy.

>>161220441
Are you?

>>161220496
>its not an argument
You're saying the progress moves at a snail pace because of its format. You wouldn't praise the story doing great because its a 4koma, so why blame its format for when something goes wrong? It's a shitty cop-out.

Who's Tomo?

>>161220670
What's a tomboy?

>>161217798
Source? Google just gives me a bunch of hand holding memes

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>>161220501
Yamato's penis is magic. It came inside worst girl and out came best girl.

>>161220550
If you're assuming Jun has already been in love with Tomo since before the manga began, then he likes her because she's like a guy.

>>161220695
>implying he didn't purposely crop the picture so you couldn't find it

>>161220710
is she the one that got claimed by truck-kun?

>>161220695
prototype 40100 or something

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>>161220723
That particular picture has been around for a while with various variations of text

>>161220710
How could Seo fuck this up so hard?

>>161220754
Yup. Then another girl with the same looks and same name was introduced later. I haven't read it lately but from my understanding yet another girl with the same looks and name was introduced.

>>161219999
Sociopaths can understand and accurately estimate other people's feelings, they just don't feel anything in particular because of them.

>>161220626
I said 'probably because it's a 4koma', I wasn't blaming the format, I was just suggesting that a format focused on comedy where every page is formatted as a 4 paneled joke may not be the kind of format you should complain about when there aren't grand developments in a long time. Either way, it's not like I'm a 4-koma savvy, so I could very well be wrong. But the thing is I wasn't really trying to argue anything with that sentence.

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>>161220149
>She went to the batting cages on her date for fucks sake

>>161220722
not even, he thought he was gay for years after they met. it fucked him up hard when he found out.
he likes her because she's his idol. nothing to do with how girly she isn't.

>>161220814
although i should say, the fact that he made it so he has to be 'the better man' kind of fucked him up even harder.

>>161220687
Miserable pile of secrets

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>>161220900
But enough talk, have at you!

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>>161220867
>cucking Yamato
fuck off

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>Oyakodonfag is Seofag
Not surprised, both have jack shit to do with the matter at hand.

>>161220867
I never thought I could start to hate a word after seeing it being repeated so much

>>161219375
What kind of hentai-tier writing is that.

>>161221075
This. I've been tracking you fucker for months and every fucking time you samefag. No other person uses that word except you.

>>161221075
Hey oyakodonshitter. You're all over /vg/ too https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/Oyakodon/

>>161221075
What if I hate the oyakodon faggot but like Seo mangas?

>>161221190
Fuck off samefag. We already know you're >>161221075
>>161220867
>>161220334
>>161218595
Can you please fuck off?

>>161221232
Is it time for falseflagging already?

>>161221146
Do you think he's behind the addition to it as a tag on sadpanda?

>>161220203
Ok I read that spoiler with edgy-psychological-manga glasses and I am legitimately scared. Do they actually play it as serious traumatic event, or as a gag?

>>161221257
The oyakodon shitter can be anywhere. I tracked him down so many times to tell him to please fuck off. See https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/Oyakodon/ that's all him.

>>161217777
This just makes me like Carol more.

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>>161219999
You're confusing Sociopath with austitic, Sociopath actually has a better understanding on human emotions that they can actually manipulate other people for their own gain.

In this case Misuzu could be the Sociopath but she has a conscience.

Is actually debatable if she is or not.

>>161221341
Really fucking serious. force-fed by her entire elementary school class

>>161221030
Well who else is there? Eba is worst girl so as much pain as it would cause Haruto, that's out of the picture. Aoi was already NTR bait when 3.0 arrived.

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>>161217710
So he's just insecure of how Carol feels about him?
If anything, this is Carol's fault. Why doesn't she just say I love you to him?

>>161220334
>>161220423
>>161220710
>>161220813
>>161220867
>>161221000
>>161221075
>>161221405
Can you please fuck off?

>>161219776
Because she only ever shows that one side of herself while around him so he's worried that she's emotionally retarded and wouldn't fully understand what he meant but accept anyway, and wouldn't treat the relationship seriously.

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Can we go back to tomboys yet?

>>161221363
I don't have to track the Oyakodon faggot to find him, he's been everywhere on /a/ for the last past month which is why i'm sick of his shit. He posts Oyakodon on threads that have nothing to do with it, he's like a bot posting for a daily quota.

>>161221526
Fuck off oyakodon shitter. We know it's you falseflagger

>>161221550
>capitalizing oyakodon
You're not even trying. Stop falseflagging and fuck off.

>>161221489
He already knows it. But it's impossible to tell how sincere she is.
After all, she basically just almost arbitrarily fucked her best friend's crush, and acted comfortable with sex and men in general. It's only thanks to Jun's derelict testicles that Carol didn't get her puss crushed despite already being "in love" with senpai.

>>161221438
When Saki was a child, she was being bullied for having her "power" and was constantly teased as being a 'witch'. For instance, a boy forced her to eat a newt, thus making her very angry and causing her to wish that the boy would die. The boy collapsed on the ground moments later. Ok pretty terrible but not infuriatingly so.

>>161221575
You have issues, my man.

>>161221526
The real question is can we go back to our man yet

>>161220137
I mean it as either the first or second volume when we learn her entire father's half of the family hates her due to sins of the mother. A.nd then all the shit with Hattori. Though I guess you could say that's typical shoujo angst, it does set up part of the tone of the rest of the backstories.

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>>161221600
You just can't trust Carol. Literally nothing has changed that fact since day the first time he appeared.

>>161219547
A bit too rational actually, not something you'd expect from Fumita.

>>161221190
>liking seo mangas
Probably even worse

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>>161222234
Operation Rain Man will start very soon.

>>161219029
>>161218909
>>161218595
See you next thread.

WHERE ARE THE TOMBOYS

>>161224373
Okayama.

>>161219426
>impregnable
well, she's definitely fertile

Fuck you Jun

I hate you!

Fuck you Jun

I hate you!

Fuck, this thread made me hungry, I'm gonna go make some oyakodon.

>>161220334
O

>>161221086
You realize Tomo-chan is literally written by a hentai writer, right?

>>161221416
Mizusu isn't a sociopath, she's just a meddling girl pretending to be aloof and cool.

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>>161219945
>Ojojojo
Fuck that shit,it ended too fucking early.I want more hipster and rich ojousama shenanigans.I'm satisfied with the ending alright,but that shit jusg won't cut it.Wished the author made it even longer

>>161219776
Don't bother with it. I can't understand 80+% of the pages in this manga. It's weird drama that makes no sense.

>>161222705
The other backstories are way darker though. Even when it came time to explain why here father's family hates her, it was a pretty lame excuse.
>look at that young slut with no social standing!
>my heavens!

>manga went so shit that derailed threads are now a norm
wew

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>>161227924
Except derailed threads are the natural state of Tomo chan threads. It's 4 panels and less than a paragraph of writing. Back in late 2015 derailment was the only way to keep a thread bumped before the translation.

>>161230338
Replace >>4 with that truck pic and it's still accurate.