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Is the edgelord archetype literally dead? I feel like even if

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Is the edgelord archetype literally dead?
I feel like even if we'd get a good ol' classic kind of edgelord they would never be taken seriously due to the fact that emo culture is no longer a thing.
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>>161214878
>Is the edgelord archetype literally dead?
what the fuck was sasuke for 100
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Just because we don't have any recent series with a likeable edgelord it doesn't mean the archetype is dead.
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i blame sasuke
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>>161214878
Thinking a well-written character won't be received well just because you think they're an "edgelord" is stupid.
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>>161215183
>Eren
>edgelord

He's just angry
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Bakugou is a edgelord done right.
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>>161214878
>Edgelord archetype dead
>Arifureta is getting an anime
Nigga you havent seen nothing yet.
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There are plenty of series with several edgelord characters, it's practically a simple character trait at this point and not an archetype.
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>>161215303
Bakugou is a joke character.
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>>161215303
He's the most realistic type of edgelord, the one that's a cunt thanks to insecurity.
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Literally same character
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>>161214878
Togashi's edgelords are still in HxH
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>>161215303
Bakugou is one step above Mineta as the worst character in the series.
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>>161215504
And you have shit taste.

>>161215456
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>>161215039
These niggas been around since the 90s. I believe OP was talking about modern anime/manga that came out in the last five years not ongoing series that came out when being an edgelord was popular.
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>>161215757
>>161215303
>Stereotypical school bully is a edgelord done right.
What? Did you just say that?
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>>161215125
i stand with this guy. interesting digits too
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>>161215757
Dude Bakugou has no reason to be an edgelord. He's only one because Hori decided he is.(even his proto design was a normal guy with normal personality)
How you think that's "edge done right" is beyond me.
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>>161215323
>whitehaired redeyed edgelord dragging a practically naked loli around
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>>161215456
>nice kid who wants to spend time with his little brother and his friends
>edgelord
??????
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>>161215966
>How you think that's "edge done right" is beyond me

the only way i see it is the fact that you can see him grow out of it, he still spergs a lot but is not screaming kill and threatening everyone like he is vegeta that much anymore
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>>161216023
>the only way i see it is the fact that you can see him grow out of it

>literally hasn't grown out of it at all
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>>161214878
I hope edgelords are still a thing because I really love those characters. They tend to be sensitive and thoughtful unlike your typical manly brute.
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>emo culture
>culture
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>>161216146
The best ones are kinda like tsunderes but their version of dere is brutally murdering anyone who fucks with their homies.
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>>161216132
have you been reading it? after the rescue he has calmed a fucking lot
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>>161215966
>told your the best as a kid
>builds up ego
>sees others as weaklings
>the one you considers the weakest helps you
>makes you doubt if you're the best if you need help from weaklings
It's nice that the viewer isn't constantly reminded about this, causing others to view things from another perspective
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>>161216174
You know that's only a figure of speech, right?
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>>161214878
The reason edgelords are usually shit is because they almost always have no reason at all to be edgelords, like their sob story will be about something everybody experiences like a family member or friend dying tragically or something, they are never deserving of the sheer edgelordery they exhibit.

There are honestly a few brilliant edgelord characters out there, Ichise from Texhnolyze for example, but most are so badly written they are subconsciously dismissed by the audience before they even have a chance to explain why they are edgelords, because the reason is almost always fucking stupid and boring and gay.
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>>161216174

interesting
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>>161215757
>And you have shit taste.

says the guy defending Bakugou
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>>161216252
First time I've heard of it as a figure of speech, after people kept using that it with anything negative on the western world.
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>>161216187
Yeah, I love the tsundere ones. I think my favorites are ones who grown cynical facing the darkness of the world but then soon finds characters he can truly be friends with and learns to open up.
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>>161215757
Hori can't write for shit and that's why Bakugou is shit. His and Deku's backstory is jury rigged together and only works if you ignore how dumb and improbable all the events that take place are. For comparison, Inasa's flashback was just as dumb as Baku and Deku's.
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>>161216588
Inasa'a flashback was absolutely embarassing.
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>>161216146
Yeah, same here. Edgelords are just simply people who are just too pure and attuned the world around them, hence their edginess
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>>161214878
Straight Outta Deviantart
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>>161216395
>edgelord gets a qt genki gf

this is my fetish.
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>>161216727
Reminds me of Vincent and Yuffie
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>>161216727
>IMG_
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>>161215183
nah that's not edgy, he doesn't even wear anything black.
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>>161216276

In no way would I consider Sasuke 'edge done right' but yet, I'm pretty sure having my entire family murdered isn't something that everyone has experienced. Your logic is flawed.
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>>161216727
>edgelord gets a cute genki gf and his edgy ways are kinda fixed
>she gets brutally murdered for a dumb reason
SEEEEEEDS
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>>161216918
Sasuke's problem isn't his motives, it's the lack of writing skills and the inconsistency of the development of his character
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>>161216955
>Muh Seeds
Fuck, the only bad part of that show. That was so fucking stupid.
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>>161216918
It obviously takes more than just a proper tragedy to write an edgelord properly but I'm saying the major stumbling block is the tragedy itself in most cases.
>muh parents died
>muh waifu died
>muh friends died
None of these are good enough to justify what most would consider being an edgelord, these things literally happen to everyone at some point, but for the most part edgelords are written with at one of these things as justification for being a perma-depressed psychopath.
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>>161216727
Any recommendations?
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>>161215303
Bakugou isn't even edgy. He's just an asshole.
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>>161216918
he's top 3 worst characters ever written in a big franchise(anime, vidya), there's nothing going for him, he didn't get a redemption arc, and now it's too late for him to get it, his predetermined love interest is borderline retarded and it's his fault, as soon as he had a shot of returning to the village and just try to rebuild his clan, he decides to destroy the village that his brother gave his life and all his clan's lives up to protect, disrespecting his wishes and basically spitting on his grave, jesus I can keep going but this shit is too old and this is something we all know, calling sasuke a good edgelord is like calling isekais the best genre.
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>>161217079
to be fair most people don't have their brother murder their entire family and clan for cartoonishly sociopathic reasons
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>Edgelords aren't popular anymore
>Violent bitch tsundere shits are as popular as ever

FUCKING JAPAN

STOP WITH THE DERANGED CUNTS
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Would this be a good egdelord story?
> two OP mages defeat apocalyptic beast; seal its power, one a total bro and the other a complete edgelord
>when everyone is celebrating, one of the 2 mages kills the other and absorbs his power and the apocalyptic beast's essence, becoming nigh-divine in power in the process
> declared himself God-Emperor, and says he is doing this because conflict alllowed the apocalyptic beast to escape its previous confinement, so by being civilization's immortal enemy, he will reduce the amount of conflict
>this is BS of course
>although civilization of the world is unified, two main factions emerge: those who want to accept the God-Emeperor's rule, and those who want to fight him
>among the 'war with God-Emperor faction' there is tension over who is responsible for the current situation
>eventually, as conflict with God-Emperor goes on, tension among factions reaches a breaking point; there is now a civil war between them
>Due to finally having some time to introspect and be alone God-Emperor calms down, becomes depressed and horrified at previous and current actions and what they have lead to
> Through introspection, God-Emperor's past is revealed; it is quite messed up, but I have not thought of the details yet
>God-Emperor struggles with trying to lead faction of civilization accepts his rule, clashes with destructive personality
> Eventually GE becomes so overwhelmed by situation and depressed that when he becomes aware of plot to assassinate him via poison, does not do anything to stop it
> final episode has him eating poisoned food, ambiguous wheather he lives or dies
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>>161217087
I consider Oreki as an edgelord but some might not agree with me.
Him and Chitanda are literal sex, anyway.
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>>161215861
>done right

He's a conceited asshole who strives to be number one and his potential to become a powerhouse paired with his audacity is feared by both friend and foe in his Universe
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>>161214878
>Is the edgelord archetype literally dead?

Tokyou Ghoul is keeping it alive, chapter after chapter, a new edgelord arrives
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>>161217508
He's not even an edgelord.
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>>161217637
what is an "edgelord"?

Shigaraki?
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Impossible to have an edgelord character because people will immediately want him to have character development to stop being edgy.
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>>161217765
>implying that's bad
>implying we cant enjoy his autistic edginess before he gets a development just fine
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>>161217765
Temporary or intermittent edginess is the only excusable edginess honestly. When it becomes a permanent trait it just gets fucking obnoxious and unrealistic.
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>>161217343

It might be a good YA novel but it'd make a shit anime.
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>>161217713
NOT a stereotypical school bully who flaunts his power around like a dick to feel better than all the losers and gets butthurt when he finds out that loser kid he's been bullying turns out to have a power as well.

That asshole is just pathetic.
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>>161216727
>>161217087
This happens in Rave and Kenichi (the strongest disciple or something like that) the edgelord gets beaten by MC, joins his crew and fucks MCs sister
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>>161218004
But he can still be edgy no? and if he's edgy and powerful, then he's an edgelord
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>>161216276
To this day I think one of the best Edgelords ever written is Akito from Fruits Basket

>be late teens
>part of a family curse that somehow you end up eating all of the shit from
>already dying because of said curse
>not even leaving your room, just sitting there wasting away & waiting for death
>become an absolute asshole to everyone because you're not even living
>eventually lose all hope
>secretly just scared shitless to die alone
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The only edgy character i ever liked was tomoko
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>>161218119
How is he edgy? He's never even shown any dark cynical beliefs?
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Wouldn't Kaneki qualify as a recent edgelord?
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I'm trying to think of a female edgelord, do they exist?
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>>161215456
Gon is edgier than Killua, he's just pragmatic
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I unironically like edgelord like Shieldbro
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>>161218411
Yes, but TG:re isn't over yet and I'm not touching it until all the threads have dried up
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>>161218476
here's a tough question. is there a character edgier than gon?
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>>161218459
AkG and its spinquel
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>>161218459
It's more important for male characters to show their sensitive side in manga, that's why we get more male edgelords.
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>>161218459
The overall attitude that comes with the edginess is usually very tough and manly, so obviously less suiting for females.
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>>161218287
He's always barking like a dog, telling people to go fuck themselves.
He told Deku to kill himself.
His expressions to beating people are always ominous.
He's edgy to the point where Shigaraki, the edge king, wanted to recruit him as a villain.
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>>161218717
That's just severe autism and being an asshole.
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>>161218777
Being an asshole is edgy, or to put apply it more specifically, being an asshole is a common trait in edgy characters
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>>161218834
The fact that Bakugou is actually tactical about his decisions already erases him from the edgelord possibility.
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>>161215757
>>161214878

Tokiyomi is "edgy". He sulks a lot, his room is like entering a medieval Hot Topic. But even if he's pretty "emo" I think he's only edgy on the surface.
He's a good boy deep down, so even if he has his dark brooding antics, Tokiyomi is not an edgelord, or a genuine edgelord like Shigaraki and Stain.
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>>161218891
>Bakugou is actually tactical about his decisions already erases him from the edgelord possibility.

So is Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho, and he's a classical "edgelord".
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>>161218928
Hiei is mostly doing whatever the fuck he wants.
He has killed a lot of people for simply annoying him and he was basically a fucking murderer before he joined Yusuke's group.
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>>161214878
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Is there a better edgelord, or is he the peak?
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>>161219160

that's bleeding edge my friend
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>>161218717
He's just an asshole.

An edgelord is a character who is consumed by darkness and must walk the dark path. They feel outside the normal society who can be happy and have friends. They feel too distanced from that, their life has become one about vengeance and gaining power to achieve their ambitions.
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>>161214878
>>161215323
check out Dungeon Seeker. MC is pure edge, it's terrible.
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>>161219475
You can have a sliding scale of edginess.
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>>161217099
This.
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>>161218834
Bakugou is way too sociable to be an edgelord though. He doesn't walk the dark path.
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>>161218900

Tokoyami is chuuni, that's a whole different stereotype.

Stain is the edgelord.
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>>161215456

Wrong one
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Yukio Okumurura has been so edgy for years that last chapter he literally went out on his best friend's front step after she tried to comfort him and shot himself in the head

And he's the most popular character in the series
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>>161218476
>>161218545

Please, stop. I hate having to discuss why Gon isn't an edgelord every single time someone confuses his downward spiral in chimera ants and makes Gon to be an amoral character.
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>>161215303
>>161215446
>>161215757
>>161216223
>>161218119
>>161218717
>>161218834
>>161218891
Edgelords are supposed to be about the dark side of the world and being consumed by it. Whether it be the absence of love or falling into despair, their life has become one of cynicism.

Bakugou is just a bully who wants everyone to suck his dick. He's still able to live a normal, sociable life.
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>>161220261
He tells deku to kill himself
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>>161220326
yeah, because he's a bully. I understand now that being a dick alone does not encapsulate the term edgelord
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>>161220326
Fact is, if you can still live a normal, happy and sociable life, you're not an edgelord
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>>161217099
Tell that to the retarded fanbase. They don't seem to know what words mean.
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Name a better edgelord.
Protip: You really can't.
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>>161217099
Seriously. He's an insecure cunt, not an edgelord

Tokoyami's chuuni syndrome is closer to being an edgelord than Bakugou
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>>161220642
Oh, and on Tokoyami's edginess, it's clearly a joke/gag, like most of the things in that manga
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>>161216727
Literally nothing cuter.
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>>161219160
Nah >>161220634

Dufaux was way more edgy than Brago. Brago threatening an old man to force a teenager to fight so he could achieve his dream vs. Dufaux wanting to see Japan nuked out of sheer boredom.

Which do you think is worse?
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>>161214878
Anime is a parody of itself these days. Until you get a series that plays everything straight, you will not see an edgelord that isn't the butt of a joke featuring itself.
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>>161220808
By "best edgelord" I mean "best character that is an edgelord", not "most edgy character"
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>>161221101
Brago is the better character, but Dufaux was the more edgy one.

Brago was also still somewhat edgy in the end, while Dufaux lost all of it after that epiphany he had in Africa.
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>>161218459
Does pizza count?
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>>161216727
This is the most beautiful thing to witness. I think it works so well because their extreme autism (Two sides of the same coin) makes them perfect for each other.
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>>161219121
She wasn't edgy, she was a tomboy
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>>161219121
She wasn't too edgy at all. At least she fought for good and was all righteous about it. True edgelords are normally side characters. Close to the MC, but not the MC no matter how dark the show is. Usually. I don't fucking know.
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>>161220033
Gon is a heartless bastard that lets serial killing terrorists live and get away with their crimes but kills the sweet catgirl for his own selfish reasons.
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>>161218411
Not really, he doesn't even kill humans still but has no problem cannibalizing other ghouls.
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>>161221432
Never the MC you say?
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>>161214878
>Hiei
>Edgelord
Wannabe edgelord maybe
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>>161221478
Ain't that almost everyone in hxh? Same think can be said about Kurapika.
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Its alive and well
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>>161221797
Actually he fits the archetype perfectly, a fake edgelord would be Zelgadis.
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>>161222044
Zel tries to be the Heartless Magic Swordsman, but he's too much of a softy to pull it off.
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>>161222007
Black Haired Kaneki would have made a better king than the pussy whipped bitch we have now
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>>161221797
He slaughters his enemies with no shred of mercy. He also loves his dragon of darkness flames. He only smiles when his enemies are in pain. He's literally a demon
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>>161215039
emoblob
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>>161214878
>what is accelerator for 100
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Sasuke is better than any character in wan piss, fact
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Darks.
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>>161214878
I think that the core personality trait for this type of character would be genuine nihilism.
Pic related is fucking terrifying.
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>>161215757
Bakugo isn't really an edgelord. He's more like a hyper-aggressive societal tsundere
A real edgelord would've joined the villains when they offered - Bakugo is just so much of a cunt he circles right back around to being a good guy, and tells them to fuck off
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>>161226395
Forgot the image.
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>>161215757
bakugo is loud obnoxius and generally an idiot- hes everything edgelords hate/try not to be since they arent "cool" traits
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>>161214878
Pic related and Drifters had a bit of traction last year so there is an audience for comically dark characters at least.
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>>161214878
>Edgelord
What does this even mean ffs?
I am not an American so I don't even understand what Emo means
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Is Blackswordman arc Guts an edgelord?
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>>161214878
Hiei was not an Edgelord.
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>>161226423
>The Villians are literally calling themselves villains
Wew, rather than seeing themselves as people who's interests are against the government and society they see themselves as evil
Literally a spooked manga
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>>161226395
>>161226456
He believes his ambition has more value then everything and everyone else, that's not nihilism
He was briefly suicidal but only because his dream became impossible
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>>161226943
Yes he was. Yusuke even makes fun of him for that at one point.
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I miss Edgelords: the manga. I still think Kuro and Sera is the right kinds of edge, though.
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>>161215183
Eren is a ragetard, not an edgelord.
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>>161218476
Killua went out of his way to save the life of someone who had been trying to murder him minutes ago, so yes Gon was edgier.
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>>161214878
Fuck Hiei was badass.
>I hate that a direct clone killed my waifu with a less badass dragon of the darkness flame
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>>161221741
He wasn't an edgelord, he was just totally corrupted by absolute power. The part with him losing his memory and reverting to his innocent teenage self was meant to show that.
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>>161219160

True Edge: Master of the Sword Element.
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Pretty sure all the edgelords posted here have been posers compared to the OG Devilman
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>>161229413
>implying that it wasn't the humans and demons that were edgy
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>>161218215
iirc the Mangaka originally planned to have him end up with Tohru but decided against it in the end. I would have like this outcome better, Kyo was kind of a brat.
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>>161229958
>the Mangaka originally planned to have him end up with Tohru but decided against it in the end.
Wat, isn't akito female.
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>>161230004
Manga version only. In the Anime he's a dude and Takaya said that she debated with herself whether to make him female/male in the manga and that if she had chosen male he would have ended up with Tohru.
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>>161230077
I'm calling doubt. Because even in the beginning of the story there's hint of drama between shigure and akito.
Unless that's actually the usual yaoi stuff from shoujo writer.
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>>161230077
Honestly I liked that she didn't, especially given the fact that Akito would have been male. Mistreats most of the people in the series thanks to our regular dose of male lead angst and abuse and all he would have needed is some Honda pussy.

That last scene near the cliff would have been unbearable if it was for Akito's romantic love as well as his wellbeing.
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>>161230200
Calling doubt on what? Him being a guy in the anime?
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>>161215183
Eren is underachieving rager, not edge. Edgy don't smile or have hopes.
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>>161230288
On the premise that Akito might end with Tohru.
Because if that actually happen, rather than debated with herself, to me it sounds like she got an idea out of nowhere or just regretting her past premise.
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>>161230380
She was probably only stating that the option had crossed her mind at some point. It doesnt really matter because the manga ended on a happy ending for everyone. It's the anime Akito that felt forgotten in terms of closure, maybe that's why.
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>>161229216
This.
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>>161218459
Yes, she was perfect and deserved a show that wasn't awful.
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>>161214878
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>>161232765
Bakugou. Isnt. An. Edgelord. He's. Just. Autistic.
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>>161222102
Zel was more antihero than edgelord though
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>>161233337
Stop. Typing. Like. A. Nigger.
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>>161235261
No. White. Boi.
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