Why haven't you graduated to exclusively reading manga yet?

>>161154977
Everytime I try to follow a manga series the scanlators implode.

Because there's more to discuss on /a/ if you watch anime.

>>161154977
I did that back in 2010-2012. Then I realized I was being a pretentious cunt. Anime if adapted right is better. but I'm not gonna shit on you for reading the manga version.

>not enjoying both anime and manga
There's good stuff in both, why be an autist?

>>161155136
B-BUT MUH LOYALTY TO ONE AND ONLY FORM

>>161155030
日本語習った方がいい

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>>161155179
I know and I can only blame myself for being a lazy piece of shit.

>>161155198
You could blame me, if you want.

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>>161154977
Manga doesn't have this.

>>161155532
>Manga doesn't have crappy CG commissioned by some toy company to boost sales
Yes, exactly.

>>161154977
Manga is only good for dialogue heavy series like Detective Conan or Medaka Box. Meanwhile for action series, anime is the better medium.

I have. Not that I read much manga anyways. It's all isekai and moeshit nowadays.

>>161155115
>if adapted right
Yeah that almost never fucking happens.

>>161154977
I prefer LN's to be honest.

Because I'm not through my backlog yet.

>>161154977
Because I enjoy watching anime.

>>161154977
I don't have enough cash.

>>161154977
>exclusively
Why would I deliberately miss out on original shows?

Because hiatuses and monthly releases are less common in anime.

I did, now that I moved out, have a job and graduate school it's just alot faster to read the manga. 22 minutes per episode is alot more time than it use to be man.

>>161154977
Because the voice acting for manga is terrible, everyone sounds the same way and the people doing their voices have no skill at all. It's almost like they aren't there.
And holy shit don't even get me started on the soundtracks. They don't fit in at all.

>>161154977
Mangaonlyfags are a bunch of EOPs that think they're special, when in reality they read mostly shitty translations of a select few series that actually get picked up. Why haven't you graduated to reading manga and watching anime raw?

>>161155701
Unless the anime belongs to Toei.

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>>161154977
Objective tier.

>>161156314
You could always act out the manga's dialogue out loud so you parents think you've finally cracked. Seriously though listen to music while reading manga.

>>161156754
>WN
Literally the only medium on that list that has nothing to offer. You could have at least tried to be clever and put "doujin games" or something.

>>161156754
Where are drama cds? Are there even any series that exist purely on drama cds?

>>161154977
muh sakuga

>>161156874
>not making your own sakuga

>>161155115
Even id you feel this way it almost never covers all of the content. Im not going to shit on anyone here either but I dont see how people can stand knowing what they watched is unfinished.

>>161157159
Because so many manga have decisive endings that don't take a decade to reach, right? Most of the anime that leave things off are shitty LN commercials, and the only thing worth watching those for is comedy and girls anyways, so the story not finishing isn't really a big deal.

>>161157159
That's why the true patrician master race option is both watching the manga and reading the anime. Preferably doing the latter first in case it's something new to you, so you don't get angry at how content was cut from the adaptation, which also lets you later fully enjoy the source material.

>>161156314
I've been getting more autistic with trying to get every character in a manga to sound unique and different in my head when I read it. Its lead to me stopping in the middle of chapters.

>>161157235
>most of the anime that leave things off
Well this is wrong for any anime from an ongoing series. I'm not against watching anime, but you get more of the series content from the manga.
>>161157269
I'll usually pick up shows of something Ive read or am reading and as long as the adaptation is decent its like fanservice

>>161154977
I'm ESL however English is my fourth language. And my head hurts if I read English words for too long and often have to look for the difficult words in dictionaries. Manga isn't fun, but anime is often dubbed.

>>161156867
Maybe some series that amateur VAs did as doujin or reference work. Drama CDs are inherently more costly than everything there except anime, which is why drama CDs follow popular series rather than establish them.

Would kinetic visual novels count? I can imagine there a KVN series with full voice work that could be stripped of the novel part to leave a drama-esque audio.

>>161157648
>I'm ESL however English is my fourth language.
>ESL
>fourth
The proper term would be EFL.

>>161154977
Because Yoko Taro shit the bed with that edgefest.

>>161157269
I did that with Koi to Uso. Originally,
I just started it just to see what it's all about since I'm too lazy to watch the anime but I ended up marathoning it.

>>161157601
>but you get more of the series content from the manga.
And most adaptations are from ongoing series without an ending in sight anyways, so you don't get an actual ending either way. You sound like a mangafag pretending not to be a mangafag because you watch 4 series a year.

I checked Kissmanga' latest updates every day

Got some pretty good shit from there

I can't stand reading online. I own around 2k volumes, not enough money for more.

>>161157428
Wow, are you serious? You really are autistic. You're reading.

>>161157695
More content is more content, even if it hasnt ended yet I cant imagine just stopping where an anime that will never get another season does when you have tons of series with whole new arcs and whatnot available to you if you'd just read the manga. I'm not pretending to be anything here, I mostly read manga and theres nothing wrong with watching adaptations, but you are only cheating yourself by not reading the manga.

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>>161155136
Because i find that 9 times out of 10, the anime discussion - which is often associated with anime only fags - is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DISGUSTING and cancerous of the highest faggotry order

Take Jojo for example. I remember back when Jojo didnt have an anime and 80% of /a/ didnt know what the fuck it was. The threads mostly consist of 5 fags comfortably circle jerking with each other. It took like 2 days for the thread to barely reach the limit. And then came the anime adaption

Boy oh boy, was everyone hyped in the sticky. And dont get me wrong, the anime was great. The voice acting fits the characters. The art was faithful. And the OP / songs are great. But then came the anime only fags, and along with them came to tumblr posting. It got to the point where i cant even handle to go in the threads now due to all the obnoxiousness in it

>>161155532
CG was a mistake

>>161157824
I read plenty of manga if I like the anime, but "more content" isn't always a good thing if a story just gets dragged out with no ending. "More content" by itself also doesn't mean anything if the execution of said content isn't good, and a lot of time animation and sound direction as well as voice work can take shows to a level the manga just isn't on.

I do sometimes, but it's mostly because I'm too lazy and would rather scroll through mangas while lying on the bed instead of watching anime while sitting in front of a screen.

Also sometimes it's because the manga has more progress and the later chapters have little to no chance of being animated...

>>161157919
>Because i find that 9 times out of 10, the anime discussion - which is often associated with anime only fags - is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DISGUSTING and cancerous of the highest faggotry order
No you're right, mangaonly is so much better.
>Shitty reddit memes
>People screaming about Korean raws
>People crying about scanlation
>Faggot circlejerk
Manga fanbases are mostly garbage. I translate manga, and most of the threads for series I work on are complete fucking garbage. The posts read like someone went to reddit, batoto and the kissmanga comments, rounded up every comment that was in broken English, and then posted it here.

>>161157986
The comments on Batoto and Kissmanga really are fucking terrible.

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>>161157986
I'd rather have my manga thread, which is a mix of mangafags and anime only fag than dive in the cancer concentrated anime only thread

>>161158017
Manga only threads are actually worse than anime only threads because at least the anime only shitposting has a shot at being funny sometimes. Manga only is a retard circlejerk of people who are more concerned with patting themselves on the back for reading manga than they are having anything that even approaches real discussion or even decent humor.

>>161158056
Hey, at least it's not LN-only threads.

>>161156839
>Literally the only medium on that list that has nothing to offer.
You realize that more than half LNs are just castrated commercialized WNs?

>>161157921
There are series that drag on too long, but in most cases the anime covers so little that unless you are looking at some generic harem series, then you get enough good content to outweigh what honestly ends up being mediocre at worst by the end most of the time.
It doesnt help that the anime original endings have a habit of ending things in a less than graceful way

>>161154977
This happened to me before I could even realize it. I used to be able to watch anything as long as it wasn't 300+ episodes now I can't even watch a single episode of anything. I'm not even some kind of manga elitist, I just vastly prefer it to anime at the moment. This doesn't mean that anime can't be good though, with a proper adaptation it can even be better than the original, though that is rarely the case.

>>161158090
And half of them aren't worth reading, whereas no WNs are worth reading.

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>>161158056
>has a shot at being funny sometimes

no thx. Their humor is literally redit. Atleast mangafags have decent power level

>>161158090
>castrated

You don't know how a lot of WNs are meandering as fuck.

>>161154977
I've transcended manga for the superior isekai web novel

>>161158092
What was the last anime you watched adapted from a manga where the anime didn't finish the story and had a shitty ending, but the manga continued on and did everything better

>>161158114
>Their humor is literally redit.
Not really. Mangaonly threads are 100% offboard central, though. Just look at the way those retards type.

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>>161158122
>>161158090
>>161156754
>>161156839

I cant bring myself to read web novel / light novel. Everytime i try i feel like i was reading some tumblr fanfiction shit, the wordings are far so fucking simple as well - like something written by / for elementary kids

>>161157269
thats how I do it. Watch the anime, pick up the manga if I get curious and realize how much better it is than the anime

>>161158194
most LN authors are like 19

>>161158173
Not him but
Owari no seraph.
Ao no exorcist.
Medaka box.
Though i make a point to not pick anime based on manga at all. And every time i were tempted in i got disappointed.

Because fight scenes in manga are uninteresting and boring as fuck to follow

literally have to spend 2 minutes analyzing what the fuck is happening 80% of the time because of the clusterfuck it is

>>161158194
You read it for plot and pandering, not for wording. No matter how beatiful writing is, it will never compensate for shitty infuriating plot.
Example: *gatari series.

>>161158236
>Owari no seraph.
Congrats, you managed to have to reach 2 entire years back to find a single example.

>>161158261
That's only if the mangaka can't draw and panel properly, like Oda.

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>>161158261

k

>>161158286
Ask me how I know you've never actually read that series. No, the shitty translations available don't count as reading them. Prose in writing is as important as scene composition and directing in anime, and is essential for actually understanding the work.

>>161158173
I dont watch much anime anymore, but I think a really good example is something like Negima. I'd take the shitshow we have now knowing I got the rakan fight than to have left it at like ch 50 or wherever the anime ended. Now I know its an unfair example in the sense that it was just a poor adaptation but you can take pretty much any comedy like ANYTHING done by Aho girls author which has a lot of content that wont get animated. Also Im not up to date on reading Blue exorcist but I find it hard to believe the manga has gotten worse than SATAN UFOS.

Now a somewhat different side to all of this is all of the good content that flat out never gets an anime.

>>161157919
>ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DISGUSTING
>Take Jojo for example
No fucking shit.

>>161158292
Doesnt invalidate it, 2 years isnt going to suddenly mean they only make complete adaptaions with the required number of seasons now.

If I could read and understand Japanese I'd read manga. A lot of manga don't get translated or are X chapters behind the JP version which is always a pain.

>>161158362
>I dont watch much anime anymore,
Then why would I take your opinion seriously?

>can take pretty much any comedy like ANYTHING done by Aho girls author which has a lot of content that wont get animated
And yet the stuff that does get animated is head and shoulders above the manga because decent animation and art trumps the 4koma format, and the voice acting takes the series to a level that the manga can literally never compare to.

>>161158419
>Doesnt invalidate it
If you can only point to a single example of the thing you're complaining about across ever 200+ shows that air, then maybe the thing you're complaining about isn't really a big deal and you're just complaining because you feel the need to pretend you have a point.

>>161158570
In these 2 years there were at least one anime based on manga that is complete plotwise and isnt some SOL comedy?

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>>161158415
Because it is one of the most extreme and obvious case of a manga only fanbase went to literal shit because of it getting an anime adaption

I literally said it in the post. Do you have brain damage, anon?

>>161158570
Because even with saying I dont watch much I still provided current and old examples. Also to say it's head and shoulders above is a matter of opinion. I'd say its good but something is lost by dragging out the simplicity of a 4koma. Even then we are taljing about more content that even if you enjoyed the anime, will most likely never get an anime thus yoir only way to enjoy it is by reading it.

And you've been presented with examples from a variety of times. Did manga rape you as a kid or something?

I wonder when Otaking Okada not the other guy graduates anime like everyone knowledgeable and starts exclusively reading manga.

>>161158637
Ushio to Tora. You're still also under the impression that "more plot" is all that matters. Take stuff like Aho Girl, Demichan, Gabriel Dropout or Konobi. All of them are good manga, but the anime just completely improved on all of them. Execution is more important than just having more content. If a manga has a great ending and the anime never gets to it, that sucks, but that also doesn't happen very often at all.

>>161158718
>Also to say it's head and shoulders above is a matter of opinion.
Nope. If you honestly think the manga version even holds a candle to the anime, then you're a retarded mangafag who just wants to pretend they're special for reading manga.

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>>161158415
I can think of another one off the top of my head

>>161155870
Have a pity (You) for your sad bait.

i just played steins gate 0 which VN's would you lot recommend (preferable for the ps vita)

>>161158777
>nope
Alright, done here. Whether you are shitposting or just stupid at this point doesnt matter.

>>161158921

Kill yourself

>>161158939
>Literally too stupid to appreciate good voice acting and execution of a show
Remember, saying "everything is opinions anyways so one thing can't be better than another" translates to "I'm too stupid to form a valid point so I'm going to try to back out."

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But I have. I watched anime for a year or two and then went straight into manga, never looked back. I do still watch some shows but if its from an manga then Il skip it.

Still cant get around reading LNs or VNs. I couldnt even finish the worst route from FSN as Japs cant write for shit. The style is horrible, clunky and just poor form compared to western writing. Im not talking about plot or anything but the structure of writing itself

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>>161158966
suck my tail

>>161158972
Sounds white.

>>161158972
>read an English translation of a language structured completely different than English that has different literary devices
>surprised that it doesn't flow as well as English written by a native English speaker that isn't a translation
What a revelation.

>>161154977
I prefer the original version

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Manga has better pace, better art and better execution most of the time. So unless you are watching some original anime / one shot movie then it is not worth it. Dont be the kind of brainlet that can only enjoy something "becuz it haz pretty color and it movexddd"

>>161158720
It's the opposite. Liking exclusively manga and believing you're superior for that is nothing other than proof of how low your power level really is. Both anime and manga have their own advantages and disadvantages, and you need to be into both if you're any serious at all about this hobby.

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>>161159136
>Manga has better pace, better art and better execution most of the time.
Yeah, manga does art and action so much better. Fucking brainlets, when will they learn that saying "I read a thing" makes you smarter.

>>161156281
I'd take hiatus over filler all day everyday

>>161158777
Gabriel Dropout's anime studio is great, they seem to do this in lots of adaptations.

because light novels are better,..

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>>161159101
No shit anon, its still unreadable though. Just fucking look at this, it has poor structure and is a shitty wall of text

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I can't find an e-ink reader with a proper screensize for reading it, at a good price. That is my only roadblock.

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>>161159356
Dogakobo is a fantastic studio. Also, stop using spoilers like that.

>>161159389
Fate is garbage regardless of the language, but my point is that if you want to enjoy a Japanese text based medium, then you should learn to read Japanese text.

>>161157919
But we're not talking about discussing anime, we're talking about enjoying anime. So what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Because anime has pretty visuals, and the thing that I love the most about anime/manga is OPs/EDs.

>>161159534
Because if you are on /a/ then discussion is part of the reason why a medium / series is so enjoyable

Like atleast 50%

>>161159517
Life doesnt have enough time for it

>>161159594
You are the "I only watch a few stuff but mostly just like to post on /a/" cancer that is killing /a/.

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>>161159230
Most of the time i said

Not every adaption get good art / animation. In fact, most of the time they dont. You can play cherry picking all you want but it is an absolute fact

>>161159636
You're full of shit. I did it in my free time while working full time. If you have time to read manga, VNs and LNs while also posting on /a/, you have more than enough time to open a textbook and learn.

>>161159637
>a discussion board about anime is dying because people are discussing anime on it
wow

>>161159657
>Tell someone else they're cherrypicking
>Post a long running Toei adaptation
Super getting a new and competent director aside, try actually looking at all the series that are adapted from manga that air each year. "Most" are most definitely not better drawn as manga.

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>>161159637

Mate, i have been reading manga / watching anime ever since i was a little kid. You dont wanna play that power level card with me, most of you fags on /a/ havent even read / know of classic shit like Bakabon or The Three eyed one

And i am pretty sure that i have been on here longer than most of the fags in this thread

>Discussing shit on a shit discussing forum is cancer

>>161159717
>A board for people who love anime to discuss anime is dying because people who don't like anime all that much come here for a sense of belonging and to feel "in" on the inside jokes, prioritizing they're participation and (lack of) contribution to the community over the actual hobby itself
Yes, that's correct.

i have no problem with anime adaptions i just read faster and i feel i absorb the story more when reading so i kinda prefer it.

also the art is better 9 times out of 10 in the manga's

>>161159755
>You dont wanna play that power level card with me,
I'm fluent in moon and watch and read things you haven't even heard of. See
>>161159775
and then stop trying to play the powerlevel dick measuring game with someone you literally can't win against.

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>>161159739
I can do this all day

>>161159775
I don't like anime that much, but I just come here to shitpost about the latest thing I have watched.
Am I the cancer killing /a/?

The only use I have for manga is to satisfy my curiosity if I don't want to wait after an anime cliffhanger. Every time I've tried following one it has always ended with me forgetting it existed and losing all interest. How am I supposed to be satisfied by and keep up with bite-sized amounts of story that take forever to go anywhere? Stories that could at any given moment get cancelled, indefinitely suspended or destroyed by greedy publishers or the authors themselves trying to milk it. I'm not going to turn reading your shitty manga into a weekly or monthly habit for the next 5-10 years of my life.

>>161157919
> the anime discussion - which is often associated with anime only fags - is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DISGUSTING
Have you fucking been in any of the manga generals? Also
>Why not enjoy both anime and manga
>because the discussion of anime is bad
You're an autist.

>Jojo
>80% of /a/ didnt know what the fuck it was
Never happened.

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>>161159824
Me too.

>>161159921
>Am I the cancer killing /a/?
Very much so, yes.

>>161159929

Mate, you can roll back and check the sticky, beside a few fags, most people were all "why did this get a sticky, what manga is this, should i read it, it looks gay...etc"

The old shitty Jojo scanlation filtered lot of fags out

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>>161159818

Unless it is some obscure shit from literally who than i have read it all

>>161160106
>i have read it all
American Imouto.

>>161159929
Is there even any manga only general on /a/?

The only ones that get a "general" are anime threads

>>161160205
>American Imouto.

I dropped that shit as soon as i saw it. Couldnt handle that ugly ass art

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>>161155215
I'm not even part of this conversation and yet I can imagine the anon illiterate in Japanese blaming based Japanese literati anon for all of his life's woes from laziness to his self-esteem issues. The illiterate anon will eventually start beating literati anon's chest and crying out of an impotent frustration. Based Japanese literati anon will then nestle the illiterate in the crook of his chest and sing a Japanese lullaby to whisk the frustrated anon to a deep dreamless sleep.

The only thing I don't understand is why I'm so hard. The scenario I envisioned is not even sexual!

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what about about anime originals though?

if i stop watching anime completely then I miss out on great shows like Tsuki ga Kirei

>>161160269
Back in what 2013,2014? I dont really remember

>>161154977
I already did years ago, I don't have the patience for bloated episodes with worse storytelling.

>>161160278
Your /v/ is leaking, anon

>>161160269
You "dropped" it because no one translated it. Have you watched Dororo Enma-kun? No? Of course not.

Because it's such a fucking hassle to find the majority of it. Nips don't upload, and chinks destroy the original scans in 2 seconds so they can pump out their translations. Even when you find something, the quality is often so bad that it's barely worth reading.

One of the few reasons I wish I could live in Japan, and just spend a few bucks to go through a dozen tanks in an hour at a cafe.

>>161160024
>you can roll back and check the sticky
As far as I know, there's currently no archive with a functioning search option for mid-2011 - mid-2015, so we can't do that (unless you know of one). However, I can roll back to nine years ago, and what we find is:
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/jojo/start/2008-08-14/end/2008-08-15/
41 posts in a day
vs.
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/jojo/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
104 posts in a day
Clear huge increase, but 41 posts in a day in 2008 is nowhere remotely near "only 20% of /a/ has heard of it."

>>161160224
>The only ones that get a "general" are anime threads
Not true. Things without anime don't tend to get generals, but the generals don't die with the anime. SnK had a general for four years in between seasons. HxH's anime ended three years ago. Even the JoJo thread that guy is complaining about persists in the absence of an anime and is full of tons of completely cancerous shitters who have read the manga, in addition to the cancerous anime-onlyfags. It's not that the anime watchers are worse than the manga readers, it's just that having an anime advertises it to the worst casuals of both groups. To avoid that (assuming you only watch/read stuff if you can talk about it on /a/, like he seems to be suggesting), you have to not just be "an exclusive manga reader" like OP says, but actively avoid/drop anything that gets an anime.

>>161160302
>anime originals
They're mostly shit.

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>>161160395
>Dororo Enma

That one about that one hell king shota kid? Mate i had a fucking copy of it

Do you even know of hello michael, Kaibutsu-kun, Ekiben? Hell i will even throw in an easy one for you , what about Qtaro

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>>161154977

Why haven't you graduated to exclusively reading doujins yet?

>>161154977
Because comics are fun, too.
And you can't read manga in traffic, only listen to audiobooks or radio shows.

>>161160642
>doujins
You are like little baby. Here's a few more steps you have yet to go through, they're off-limits for EOPs like yourself.
>games
>artist CG sets
>erotic web novels

>>161160757
>erotic web novels
Literally why.

>>161160757
>erotic web novels
Fuck no, this is absolute trash. At least games and artist CG sets have pictures that distract you from god awful writing.

>>161160631
>Mate i had a fucking copy of it
Hit me with a picture of it. I'd love to see your copy of that anime.

>>161160631

These are all classic series by the way, some more famous than other but they should be on the same tier as Phoenix

>>161154977
Because I don't speak Jap and waiting for translations is painful.

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>>161160833
I said had

It was back in the 90s, who the fuck keep shit like that?

Go read all the series i listed with your "fluent nipponess" by the way. Your power level is fucking disgusting

>>161154977
Manga has no voices.

>>161160930
>It was back in the 90s, who the fuck keep shit like that?
Just keep pretending you actually watched it.

>Your power level is fucking disgusting
日本語ができないキチガイに言われたくない

>>161160833
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the manga. This whole fucking thing is retarded, anyway, you're both just trying to list shit the other hasn't seen, which is both stupid (of course you're both going to have read some things the other hasn't), and irrelevant to the original point, which is that "I follow anime/manga at least 50% for /a/, and I don't watch anime because I don't like the threads" is a retarded, cancerous attitude. You fags' powerlevels do no change that.

I ____have____

>>161161030
>Go Nagai series
>Only reading the manga
I knew he was stupid, but not that stupid.

Reading manga is an awful experience, chapters take way too much to get released in english. I tried learning nihongo following /a/'s recommendations just for reading manga (and light novels) but just right when I was getting motivated some mod banned the /a/ nihongo threads.

>>161161110
>some mod banned the /a/ nihongo threads
Oh, no, how can I possibly learn a language if the resources are no longer posted on the same imageboard?

>>161161110
Following that same reason, anime would be an even shittier experience

>>161161110
go to /jp/, it has the exact same general.

>>161161150
>Promoting crossboarding

>>161161164
Wait, what? Anime gets released in English as soon as it airs nowadays.

>>161161194
>What is season

Fucking dipshit

>>161154977
because most Manga writing is complete shit and it's the anime script treatments that makes most of it bearable. Manga is essentially written by high-schoolers with minimal real-world experience. What surprises me is how many don't realize this.

>>161154977
>Tfw don't know very many kanji

>>161157919
MUH SEKRIT CLUB

>>161161191
>I literally cannot learn Japanese unless I can talk about it in the DJT
Come on. This is a dumb-ass excuse, no matter how he puts it.

>>161161226
That's clearly separate from coming out in English, and most of the time it's over after one, anyway.

>>161161110
>right when I was getting motivated
There's no such thing. Language learning isn't something you wake up and think "oh boy, I can't wait to learn today!". It's a chore. You put in the work every day, and you attain your goal.

There's nothing that requires motivation about that. Either you want to learn Japanese and you will, or you don't and you won't.

Motivation only plays a role in how quickly you progress.

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>>161161228
Que?

>>161161251
Man sometime i wish /a/ still retain its "muh skrit " mentality instead of retards with their " if you ignore it then it will go away" /v/ mindset

Shit should be so much better

>>161161228
>What surprises me is how many don't realize this.
It's more that people don't care. Shitty writing is generally more popular and gets more sales than good writing.

>>161159926
Here's my approach to manga. Find something new. Read it until caught up with the scanlations. Don't think about it for at least six months or usually much longer. Catch back up when I remember and want to read the manga again. I end up dropping a lot of manga through sheer forgetfulness but if they were that good I would remember to read them. Which reminds me I should catch back up on Umi no Misaki.

>>161161110
fyi, what DJT told you was bullshit. you don't learn jap by doing 8k Kanji in Anki.

>>161160526
>41 posts
>104 posts
>Most of them are in the same thread
>On a board with a gorrilion posts a day

20% is still huge

>>161161371
How do you essentially learn Japanese?

>>161161576
Read textbooks and use anki, but actually fucking talk to Japanese people. There are guys in the DJT that know 3500 kanji and read lots of VNs, but have literally no idea how Japanese people actually talk and probably couldn't ask for directions to the train station.

>>161154977

Already am. I watch occasionally but this season is pretty shit so I'm not watching anything.

>>161161627
>probably couldn't ask for directions to the train station.
Fuck, I can't even do this in my own language.

>>161161407
The 104 posts is from yesterday, anon . And we can safely say that 99.99% of people on /a/ yesterday had heard of JoJo. If you need some more comparisons, then here are yesterday's results for:
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22tokyo%20ghoul%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
"Tokyo Ghoul" - 8.
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22opm%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22one%20punch%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
"OPM" + "One Punch" - 21.
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22bnha%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22mha%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22boku%20no%20hero%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
"BnHA" + "MHA" + "Boku no Hero" - 34.
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22re:zero%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
"Re:Zero" - 39.
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/%22madoka%22/start/2017-08-14/end/2017-08-15/
"Madoka" - 53.

And, again, 99.99% of /a/ has heard of all these. JoJo was a popular manga series on /a/ even before the anime, I'm not sure where you got the idea it was little-known.

>>161161576
Learn the basics of the language and start reading as soon as possible. Read low level stuff (anything aimed at kids/teenagers with furigana) until you're comfortable with that grammar, then work your way up.

Always have Jap tv on in the background, dramas, news and chat shows preferably (doesn't matter that you can't understand it). You have to treat it as if you're a child learning to read, write and speak for the first time; the way a child learns a language is by being bombarded by their parents talking to the point that they understand them. It's harder as an adult, since you're set in your ways and you other-analyse things, but it still works to a degree.

Doing flashcards can help with kanji, of course, but unless you can hear the usage and use it yourself, it's pointless. Even the Japs themselves don't know 8k kanji, since most of it is irrelevant to their daily lives.

Until you actually speak to other Japanese speakers, your dialect is going to be utter shit and you're going to be trying to constantly translate what they're saying in your head. Forcing your way through a language by speaking to people is the best way to get fluent.

>>161161847
>Even the Japs themselves don't know 8k kanji,
Most know about 2-3k, not even close to 8k. I don't even think chinks know 8k.

>>161161627
>but have literally no idea how Japanese people actually talk
Anyone with more than a single VN under their belt knows how nips talk, it's hardly a massive leap.
>and probably couldn't ask for directions to the train station.
This I could buy, but who cares? If you aren't planning on going to Japan, why do you need to know anything like this? Even if you are, being able to say "eki" and "doko" puts you above 98% of gaijin.

What you're saying is that if a person learned English solely through fantasy fiction books, they'd be completely lost in an English speaking country. You can get by just fine with literary language, people will think you're weird but they'd think that regardless.

>>161161847
>>Always have Jap tv on in the background, dramas, news and chat shows preferably (doesn't matter that you can't understand it). You have to treat it as if you're a child learning to read, write and speak for the first time; the way a child learns a language is by being bombarded by their parents talking to the point that they understand them. It's harder as an adult, since you're set in your ways and you other-analyse things, but it still works to a degree.
This is pretty much the dumbest statement you could ever give. If you want to take 5 years to learn what concentrated effort could do in 1, feel free to blast the radio and pretend it's helping. Listening is an intermediate skill, you can progress much faster with reading and develop a very solid base.

>8k kanji
And here's where you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you know nothing about Japanese. I get that you think you're hot shit because you found a westaboo on Skype or you're actually dumb enough to live in Japan, but you're so far beneath the people you're belittling it's actually just sad.

>>161161672
What?
I can't into japanese (I only learnt kana), but I'm sure if I say トレインステーションは、どこへ？ everyone will understand this shit. Your language couldn't possibly be more difficult.

Very simple answer: animated titties.

>>161161939
Found the guy from /jp/ who just reads VNs and thinks he's fluent in moon.

>Anyone with more than a single VN under their belt knows how nips talk
See this is just wrong.

>>161159249
>I'd take hiatus over filler all day everyday
>Watching shounenshit

>>161162083
I know train is densha from my 1 week of anki experience

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>I can't read manga because it's in Japanese
>Learn Japanese then
>But if I learn Japanese, I will only know how to read manga and VNs

>>161162297
I know train is densha from my 0 minute of anki experience and the existence of Densha Otoko.

>>161162160
>>See this is just wrong.
I'm sure you're now going to go off about how I must only know "anime Japanese". But let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say you'll whine about dialects instead, which I suppose is a valid complaint if you happen to be someone who wants to live out in the boonies, surrounded by people who are the most likely to be xenophobic.

The whole concept of "Anime Japanese" is just ludicrous. It's like saying that if I only went to the theatre, I couldn't possibly learn English from it, because everyone talks like a posh cunt there and real people slur their words.

The worst you'll pick up is feminine mannerisms that only matter for speaking, which will make you seem like an imbecile for the first month. But you'll look like a fucking retard to any native for the first month, talking like a little girl just increases the number of instant refusals.

>>161162222
>Complain about hiatus
>Willing wait for seasonal anime

My little anon cant be this retarded

>>161162325
>>But if I learn Japanese, I will only know how to read manga and VNs
This is what I don't get. If your goal from the start is consuming media and you don't care about interacting with other people in that language, then what's the problem?

>>161162362
>I know you're going to tell me that I only know how exaggerated cartoon characters speak as opposed to normal people, which includes different phrasing, expressions and entirely difference cadence and slang in their speech, but that doesn't count because I say so
Ok, glad we cleared that up.Try learning Japanese from anime and VNs and let me know how long it takes Japanese people to stop commenting on how strange some of the things you say are, and you to not have trouble understanding your coworkers or friends having a normal group conversation.

>>161154977
>he doesn't realize that /a/ is actually casual as fuck

The true neckbeards that read manga and VNs in Japanese are on /jp/

Have any new manga readers come out in the past few years or is it still CDisplay Ex, HoneyView etc.

>>161162362
Would you be able to come into my Skype call right now and talk with Japanese people? VNs don't give you this ability.

>>161162325
>>161162443
It helps with comprehension like you wouldn't believe, even when just reading manga.

>>161162481
>The true neckbeards that read manga and VNs in Japanese are on /jp/
Nah, that's just creepy idolfag SEA monkeys who wish they were Japanese.

>>161162510
Tachiyomi or MangaRock?

>>161162585
>Nah, that's just creepy idolfag SEA monkeys who wish they were Japanese.

The idolfaggotry is annoying as a non-virgin but all the manga and VN discussions are infinitely better than they are on /a/.

>>161162624
I'll give you the VN threads, but even those are filled with people who don't know moon. You're taking the good part of like 2 threads on the board and then ignoring all the unadulterated garbage there. That board is horrible, and I do my best to avoid anyone from /jp/ when they come to Tokyo for comiket or concerts and such.

>>161162614
I just want something to view manga on my Windows PC.

This is equivalent to asking VLC vs MPC-HC

>>161162466
Man, how did all those kids growing up watching Doraemon ever figure out the language? It must be so hard to have to learn 2 practically different ones if any of the bullshit you're spewing was true.

People don't learn languages in a bubble. Even full on wota who have turned off the Korean propaganda machine probably watch some cunts online talking in "normal" Tokyoite. Your hypothetical Japanese studier who only watches anime and plays VNs doesn't exist.

>>161162572
I doubt it, I've never tried and I have absolutely no desire to. I could understand your normalfag westaboo friends just fine though.

>>161154977
Because I have graduated not to care about japanese media at all outside of waifus.