Reminder that we failed to protect her smile.
Should've been a bit more proactive then, little whore.
Her God of Destruction was a retard, so I feel nothing.
>>161087260
You forgot to say Zamasu was right
>>161087422
Dumbo kind of deserved it, but Gowasu did nothing wrong
>>161087260
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
YAAAAAH ATATATATATATATATATATATATA
ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
>there are still people who prefer that over GT
>>161087774
>>161087774
>cherrypicking
>>161087774
>ss4 can barely hold up a building
>>161087774
Why does she make that fucking stupid noise anyway? Everyone else sounds fine with their kiai yells.
Universe 10 hate thread?
Do we have spoilers yet?
thoughts on this?
>>161092208
Pan time!
>>161092222
nani
>>161087260
What the fuck is this shit? All I said was that the survival of Goku, Vegeta, and everyone else is more important than protecting a loli angel's smile and now it's a fucking meme.
>>161087260
Hentais when?
Is Piccolo a strong contender in the ToP? It doesn't seem like most participants can even handle a super saiyan, and he was above that in the android saga
What's the best kind of beer?
/best girl/ thread,
Brianne, Mia,18 and all the other creatures that shouldn't be classed as women will be ignored.
>>161092277
>All I said was that the survival of Goku, Vegeta, and everyone else is more important than protecting a loli angel's smile
no it isn't
Eternal Reminder that Caulifla removed Loincloth's loincloth while he was sleeping.
>>161092288
He will probably do nothing until he gets ringed out by taking a ki blast for Gohan, who wont do much either.
>>161087807
>best form is back
I'm fucking crying
>>161092305
Hakai
Why is Kale such shit?
How far does Dragon Ball's influence reach?
>>161092305
If you compare them it's not even really hard to make Brianne seem superior, do you really want to do this?
>>161087774
>needing SSj4 to hold up a building
>magic pants outside of fusion
>A fucking lazer beam granting SSJ4
>TWO 17s
reminder
Fuck one
Marry one
Kill one
>>161092387
But she is the best girl anon
>>161092368
>you know botamo cant be damaged
No he doesnt, he wasnt there at all
Is Piccolo fucking dumb?
OK Toei, give me 1 (ONE) reason for Gohan not using his ultimate state all time since there's no ki drain at all. It's exactly like fight in base but better so why this much holding back?
>>161092500
Are they bros?
>>161092477
>>A fucking lazer beam granting SSJ4
Better than SSB jobbing to a laser on its introduction.
>we'll never get this back
>>161092531
Goku said right afterwards that he told Gohan about his fight with Botamo, are you fucking dumb?
>>161092557
So youre telling me Vegeta getting SSJ4 just because his wife shot him with a machine is better than Goku getting shot in the chest with a Frieza gook lazer?
Autism
>>161092502
Fuck Marcartia, kill Vados, marry Cus. Easy choice.
>>161092502
marry kill fuck
>>161092557
>>161092502
fk loli
marry vados
kill marcarita
Is Roshi really going to refrain groping?
>>161092532
>so why this much holding back?
Like father like son
>>161092602
>>161092584
You just don't like the official explanation in Gt for saiyans to evolve past the golden monkey and into SS4 itself.
>>161087260
Gowasu: Maybe there's still hope, we still have one fighter left. Who's he up against anyways?
Ramooshi: Gohan
Gowasu: It's time to accept defeat.
GODhan: Heh, Zamusu was right, you all ARE worthless trash, I'll make sure to finish what he failed to do.
GODhan: *drinks angel loli tears while laughing*
Vegeta using best form in the anime WHEN?
>>161092657
I like Vegeta getting SSGSS by himself.
>>161092644
>>161091844
>>161091999
>>161092039
>>161092091
>>161092137
I appreciated your autism, Anon.
How to improve this tournament?
>>161092532
Wasnt it on at all times?
Name one thing wrong with this picture.
>>161092248
You're stronger than I expected, Son Gohan. Now I'll finally have the chance to use this form after so many years.
>>161092694
And I'm done with this point.
>>161092502
Marry Cus, have sex for the sake of procreation with Cus, kill the others.
I don't get what's people's problem with Gohan, it's not like he's a living thing with his own actual character, it's the stupid writers. And they write everyone poorly. Whatever type of wuss he was in DBZ, is understandable, because even though he had a lot of potential, he was a sheltered little kid that never had to figure out the world on his own like the rest of main characters did. But he's supposedly smart, and you'd think he'd naturally figure stuff out now that he's all grown up, but no. Because the writers are sheltered little mental cripples themselves that don't understand what they are doing. The charicatures we see on screen are a mirror reflection of these people. It's all them. When Goku is retarded, even though he isn't because his weirdness was a result of living like a dirty isolated nomad, it's them. When Vegeta forgets his pride and turns into a little bitch in front of whoever or whatever sittuation, it's them. When little tingles on your back turn you from an irrelevant little shit into SSJ2, again, it's them.
Dragon Ball Super is nothing but a thinly veiled excuse for a cash grab by degenerate sheltered gooks that don't even care that the characters they show on screen are so poorly drawn the audience is barely able to recognize them, much less associate them with whatever the fuck merchandise they are trying to sell. And who the hell will ever even want to buy a Jiren toy? Or a rat/rabbit/whatever the fuck that thing was toy? Will people want the shitty SSB toys like they want the SSJ ones? No. Nobody will want this shit because it will never be as iconic, and it's simply because it's all made by failed chink jobbers that can't write, can't draw, and can't comprehend that they are in fact losing.
Direct your hate in the right direction.
>>161092716
>bracket style tournament in THIS kind of show
Fuck no.
Super couldnt handle it, especially with all those lietral whos
>>161092502
>Kill an angel
That's not something you can do you silly ningen
>>161092728
no thicc enough
>>161092767
It would be fine with smaller teams.
>>161092502
Marry Cus.
Love Cus.
Cherish Cus.
Adore Cus.Kill U10.
>>161092789
You think GODhan is finished with U10 yet?
He'll kill every angel and the grand priest before the arc is over.
How did Tien get his chest scar? I feel like I remember seeing it happen but it's been so long since I saw DB/DBZ.
>>161092777
I will just pretend Toei forgot about that like they do with everything else.
Angels are still around when a GoD and Supreme Kai die? So Whis was just lazy as fuck when he could have helped out against Buu and Zamasu?
>>161092841
Fight with cyborg Tao
What would you do if the recycled the Helles animation again?
>>161092831
>He'll kill every angel and the grand priest before the arc is over.
Ha, its funny you would make me think that.
Any last words, Cuckhan?
>>161092580
and? so what
>>161092881
Nothing because its a given. We will see it about 5 more times.
>yfw
>>161092841
His former master tried stabbing his chest to kill him after he realized that Tenshinhan was too strong for him to beat normally. So he tried to cheat in order to get revenge, basically.
>>161092580
>filename
>>161092882
Ya, I've got some last words.
KA ME HA ME HA!
*kills both zenos*Why did Gohan stop using the Masenko? And will Toei actually bring him back to his former glory during this arc?
>>161092580
They're cute together.
>>161092500
A reminder that 17' is now Chad Ku's best friend and that Krillin will now be retconned.
HAHAHA! All they whiners "Super isn't Z! Goku wasn't this dumb in Z! People who like Super don't know what good writing is!"
FIrst: So what?
Second:
Goku let Raditz' tail go.
Goku didn't kill Freeza when he had the chance.
Instead of stepping back when he knew there was a problem with his heart, he just kept fighting.
Goku gave Cell a Senzu bean.
Goku could have warped Cell out and came back if he had moved fast enough.
Vegeta was the one who suggested the Spirit Bomb for Kid Buu when Goku should have thought of it.
And don't even get me started on his fight with Piccolo (Jr.) from Dragon Ball.
You want to talk shit about Super and claim Z was better? Sorry kiddies, but learn your shit before you spew it out next time.
Third: Right, we don't know what good writing is. That's why Super is so popular world wide. There's that many WRONG people. Let's see... appropriate response image:
Now to sit back and watch the salty trolls go nuts!
It's official, blue was a mistake
>>161092882
Hey there, Zeno. Fancy meeting you here.
I've been waiting to try this technique out. You're gonna love it.
KAAAAA.... MEEE.... HAAAA... MEEEE........!!!!
HAAAAAAKAAAAAAAAAAAAI
Is this any better than the Kung Fu Master game for Nintendo?
>>161092993
this better be an old pasta
>>161093012
>blue was a mistake
Was it? I thought Toriyama lovd it in RoF
>>161092873
>>161092917
Fuck me sideways, did this happen in DB? I don't remember that at all. Honestly, I don't remember much about DB, if I think really hard. I remember Goku and Bulma's relationship, Pilaf and the gang, a tower in the snow? I remember Tao, the tournament, and Piccolo. So many little details lost to time. I bet it's been eleven or twelve years now since I watched DB originally.
>>161093050
>>161093050
>E-Everything I d-don't like is pasta
What's the point of using god form at this stage?
>>161093073
It was in DB friend.
>>161093075
Thank you for confirming it is.
i was getting worried someone was actually this retarded
>>161092993
Goku WAS retarded in Z.
The reason Z was better isGohan
>>161093044
If this series doesn't end with either Gohan or Goku doing a Kamehamehakai I will fucking kill myself.
>>161093083
muh stamina
>>161093100
goku is
>>161093100
not him but, how is the content of that post, pasta or not, retarded?
>>161093044
yfw?
>>161092477
>magic pants outside of fusion
Seriously, out of all the fucking complaints THIS is the one that keeps popping up? How is this so ridiculous in a world where Piccolo has a clothes beam? Ki making clothes has been well established even outside of fusion.
>>161093083
They will probably pull the same excuse the manga did in that it gives him a powerup, but doesn't drain stamina like SSB does
Jesus is every universe's final blow gonna be dished out by u7?
>>161093067
He said he made blue on a whim and that when colors come to mind Red is a more stronk color.
I didn;t know what he meant by this at the time but Blue was obviously more stronk than SSG so I'm guessing this new form will be a transformation built of the foundation of actually SSG
Are the Saiyans worse than Freeza now?
>>161093172
are they dead inside or someshit?
What if we're getting another Escanor that totally crashes down the tournament by attacking and wrecking the Zen'o and grand priest?
>>161092966
Someone make the edit and replace Zeno with 17
>>161092375
Wasn't the power of SSG supposed to be incorporated into Goku's normal form and SSJB being the SSJ form of that god-power-upped Goku?
Isn't SSG supposed to be redundant?
Did they just forget about SSG until now?
>>161093224
Both inside and outside.
The tournament itself has been such a massive disappointment so far. Think about it in terms of whats actually happening... it massive competition between the greatest warriors of their respective universes to decide who doesnt get erased out of existance. This should be the grandest spectacle in the history of all Dragon Ball...
But what do we get? A bunch of FotNS rejects interupted by MASSIVE KI BLASTS.
Think about if we got budokai age level of fight coreography, or even cell gams or the early buu saga stuff before vegeta blew the place up
We should be shitting our collective pants over how awesome every episode is, instead we get a bunch of faggot ass wanna be trolls voluntarily calling themselves chads like thats a good thing pretending the manga isnt the only redeeming part of super at all
This shit is garbage
>>161093235
This
>>161093185
u6 is next
>>161093213
U6 will get one
Then U11 will delete U6
>>161093162
He defends supers shit writing with "T-TONS OF PEOPLE LIKE IT SO IT MUST BE GOOD WRITING"
that literally is not always the fucking case. thats like saying Rick & Morty has good writing cause its popular and that poster acts like people really mean it when they say Goku wasnt dumb in Z, goku has always been retarded but in Super they really take the cake with it. The only thing Z did better than Super so far is animation in most fights before Cell Saga
>>161093272
who the fuck made this
>>161093172
This ep caught my by surprise. I couldn't process what was happening and I got all teary eyed. Good bye gowasu (until goku bringsyou back with the super dragonballs)
I wish they would stop yelling and grunting while looking like they are passing a kidney stone or a gigantic shit all the time.
Also why does it always end up with someone getting in a fight every episode?
>>161093172
EASY PREY
>>161093341
>Why does it always end up with somebody getting in a fight in every episode
Boi
>>161093172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dItDV1DyWSI
Went out with dignity at least
>>161093314
Some ass blasted gohanfag.
>>161093341
>yfw Goku talk no jutsus Jiren into falling off the ring
>>161093341
>Also why does it always end up with someone getting in a fight every episode?
CHADhan let me join your harem I promise I'll be a good girl
>>161093341
This post really senzus my beans
>>161093412
>yfw Goku walks off the ring cuz "he wants Gohan to win it for his universe"
Will /ourguy/ re-upload Gowasu's videos?
>>161092368
If this doesn't get a stupid drawfag shitpost, I'm gonna be dissapointed
>>161093494
Beerus would hakai him right then and there
>>161093272
GT isn't canon.
Did Gohan ever even fight Baby?
>>161092500
if it weren't for the heart virus, #17 probably would have called it quits after fighting Goku long enough anyway.
>>161092916
>>161093172
>>161093512
Why don't you do it your fucking self? I'm busy.
>>161093172
>>161092557
SSB jobbing is exactly that. Demonstrating to the audience that this form is way more flawed than SSG
What the fuck is this retarded meme that goku """"stole""" all his techniques. Kaio TAUGHT the genki dama and kaioken to him. how in the fuck is that """stealing"""? Most of his stuff was LEARNED. IT, mafuba etc. He was not taught kamehameha, but he just looked at it and tried it in a GAG scene.
F-fucking chadliens
>>161092942
>Why did Gohan stop using the Masenko?
Better question that I was thinking about the other day: did he ever use it? I've seen him do the motion to fire a beam in the manga at least once but he didn't call it "masenko" at least on the translation I was reading.
>>161093172
>>161092916
>Here I go Zamasu...
>>161093688
Universe 2 is his personal harem. Haelles included.
>>161093731
He used the masenko against nappa I think after he kills picolo
>>161093688
I'm glad they are least trying to utilize the yadrat. If caulifla really did knock him out that would be one of the worst decisions toei could have made
>>161093666
how will buucucks ever recover?
>>161093236
>>161093236
Retcons are a bitch. The same happened in the manga and next we know Goku and Vegeta start abusing SSJ God due to its better energy efficiency compared to Blue. He is probably doing the same in the anime as well, since he has only been using Blue at short bursts and the battle against Dyspo will need a transformation constantly active
>>161093172
>>161093764
That is the time I'm talking about, he does a generic scream and does the motion, but doesn't even call it masenko and I might be wrong but I don't remember him ever using it after that.
>>161093780
I'm not a spic
>>161093172
>>161092728
>character does their own version of hellzone grenade (punching)
>a couple episodes prior a different character did their own version of hellzone grenade (rapid fire, electric blue)
>later episode had Piccolo use regular hellzone grenade
I thought DragonBall Room was meant to ensure the different writers of different episodes communicate more to avoid situations like that
Damb, U2 is full of whores thirsting for some teleporting dick
>>161087774
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Instead of Krillin they should have brought Flying Nimbus as the tenth team member.
Everyone but Frieza and possibly Roshi could ride it to save them from out of bounds.
This was an episode full of ups and downs. The lack of imagination in some places was abysmal, Gohan pondering on the fate of his opponent and #17 getting into the role-playing saved this episode.
The way they have been shoving down our throat how Goku needs to keep his guard probably means that's how he's going down. Although they actually have been using that with almost every character, even this episode with Gohan. So maybe the writers can't think of anything else to offer struggles to the characters.
The weird part is that, this episode, I didn't even thought Goku let this guard down. He was clearly playing around with his opponent and trying to defeat her with a strategy instead of brute force. I don't understand why #17 had to step in. It was just weird all around.
Piccolo finally does something and get's a crappy fight, which was just one of his most famous attacks.
I didn't enjoy this episode that much. Shame that there wasn't more Ribrianne. Next episode seems interesting in concept, hopefully the reused animations from the last couple of ones, allows for higher quality.
>>161092580
Not canon.
so Gohan's so awful at dodging he actually made a skill out of it?
Post yfw SSJGSSJ4 becomes a thing
WHERE ARE THE LEAKS
>>161093850
It's Sonic 06 all over again
"I WANT THIS TO BE IN THE STORY"
"AND THIS TOO!"
"AND LET'S PUT THIS IN TOO"
"THIS WILL BE FUNNY I WANT THIS TO BE IN THE STORY"
-"None of that will make sense together but because we're a Japanese business we must all agree with each other and we're all right in our own ways! Let's do all your ideas!"
I swear Japan has the most retarded working environment ever
>>161093688
the U2 girls are a lucky bunch
>>161093920
Goku's team has lost some faith in him and thinks he needs protection from himself. Goku's struggle is to look less like an idiot.
>>161093986
Kakunsa really didn't deserve to get knocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Tq7EmpqAU
thoughts?
>>161093688
I can't take him seriously after he got humiliated so hard by Caulifla.
Is that time of the month yet?
>>161093236
right before the ritual wore off, Beerus pointed out that Goku was still getting stronger
so basically the plug got pulled while God.EXE was still being installed, meaning Goku's ascension is incomplete.
Who's going to knock out Toppo?
Who will take care of her now?
>>161093893
Kuririn couldn't. If he couldn't, 17 and 18 probably couldn't either. Piccolo definitely couldn't. And it's easily destroyed.
>>161094014
She's my favorite U2 magical girl.
I'm sad she didn't have more time to shine.
>>161092619
>giving tits to a loli
Plague can suck a furry ass
>>161094055
For normies and spics who don't read based Tori-Toyo's manga.
>Red and Blue are pretty much paired (raw strength wise) but while Red is the most balanced form ever, Blue is like a burst mode which provides a significant increase of power by draining a lot of stamina so you can't use the form all time nor spam the initial burst like nothing.
>Also both Goku and Vegeta has been guessing how to defeat this weakness of Blue, Vegeta's tactic is to train to being able to spam the form in quick bursts so he becomes Blue in the exact moment he needs and then he backs to the balanced Red without losing his stamina. Goku's method is to seal SSB's overflowing ki inside his body, preventing the stamina drain like a "full power SSB". Yet, Goku has not been training his method so he can't use this "full power SSB" without injuring his own body in the process (yet)
Hit being 10 times stronger than SSGSS Goku, Botamo sending hits to another dimension through his belly, Goku and Vegeta being as strong as SSG Goku as SS... You can forget that crap you saw in Toei's sunday cartoon already.
>>161094050
Jiren
>>161094065
>>161094014
At least it got us Warrior of Darkness 17
>>161093986
>>161094014
wish both her and vikal would of lasted longer.
At least wanted to see Vikal fight.
>>161094056
It would be amazing if someone got disqualified from accidentally destroying the Nimbus.
>Nimbus takes out Jiren
>>161094084
>Gohanpedo
>>161093835
>tfw Underrat of the tournament
>>161094096
So what's with Goku's version being so overwhelmingly superior?
>>161093960
>>161094142
If anything, Kale would be the one to kill it during her rampage.
>>161094096
I would read the manga if they didn't do like make Hit a weakling, didn't give Goku hakai, didn't give Trunks pointless healing powers, and a bunch of other stupid shit worse then even some of the worst shit in the anime
>>161094154
Cus is like fifty billion years old, Caulifag.
You'll be allowed in my harem when you drop the gang life. Stay in school and study hard.
CHADhan has no need for criminal thugs.
>>161092584
the real vegeta would never want to have a power boost with a fucking machine
>>161094208
neck yourself
>>161094208
t. Toeicasualfaggot
There are better sites for you than here. Kill yourself.
>>161093835
Why is this guy so smug doesn't he realize that the more universes get deleted the sooner some people are going to pay attention to the fags in his universe?
>>161094216
>I-iits okay because shes 1000 year old loli in the body of a little girl
>>161094221
oh sure, but power boosts from magic and from exploiting genetics are A-okay
>>161094243
>>161094268
>unironically defending the shitty manga
>>161093770
>>161093666
>>161094243
>Criticize the manga
>Tells someone to kill themselves
Toyocucks confirmed Muslim and the manga is their Koran.
Can someone draw Gohan personally erasing the Unvierse 10 fighters and Gowasu/the dumb elephant while a beaten Cus lays on the floor crying?
Reminder
>Why Does Young Justice Have Miles Better Fight Scenes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqIP-gMZCfY
>Answer
Because it does........
>>161094221
But he uses machines to train every day.
>>161094208
>Goku needs "just" SSGSS to defeat him so Hit is a weakling
>also Toyo destroyed my headcanon about some technique that Beerus uses
>also Trunks' foreshadowed healing powers saved them several times but were pointless
Poor assblasted toeidrone...
>>161094305
i know your memeing but seriously
Name 10 ways the anime is better than the manga that doesnt come down to personal taste
>>161094286
She's a fully developed woman, Caulifag.
Are you jealous that CHADhan hasn't paid attention to your exposed belly button and parachute pants?
Neck yourself.
>>161094308
>beaten
Wrong. CHADhan treats his property with love and respect.
The rest is spot on, though.
>>161087260
>She's so pure that Dycasty made sumthin normal.
Cus best girl
>>161094348
>everyone i dont like is a caulifafag
Fuck off
i dont watch Dragonball for the girls or for anything sexual
Whats Son "The Universal Genocider" Gohan's real nickname?
>>161094279
Well he does have two invisible people.
>>161094402
I accept your concession.
>>161094408
CHADhan. Where have you been, little man?
Preview Reminder
Anyone have an updated version of the ToP roster with all the newest knock outs/unvierse deletion?
>>161094221
to train not to have a free magic power up
Leave The Alien Meat to Me
>>161094096
>Hit being 10 times stronger than SSGSS Goku
Nice headcanon, Hit uses his timeskip to get in a flurry of punches on SSB + kaioken Goku, thinks it took him out because Goku faked being defeated for a moment, only to get caught off guard with single punch to the face which makes him have trouble standing up afterwards.
Was a decent episode. I'm glad Rozie and Ribrianne weren't eliminated and are being kept around for later like Kale and Caulifla was. Ribrianne seems powerful enough considering no one she's faced including 17 and Ssj version of Vegeta has been able to top her in battle once so ever, at best they fight seemingly evenly with her.
Also people crying and complaining about Rosie using "hellzone grenade" is ridiculous. Her move is different enough to Piccolo due to her absolute control over her ki and she uses it in ways Piccolo couldn't. Vegeta's galactic gun is basically a kamehameha, along with various other moves being more or less the same in this series. For example Nappa's break cannon, to Piccolo mouth blast, to Arale N'chi cannon, and much more, yet no one's crying about that.
Obuni battle with Gohan was a great fight, which is shocking for me due to the fact I'm not a Gohan or Saiyan fanboy, and U7 going on to eliminate even more guys is slightly annoying. But despite that, and Obuni having a lackluster design imo, Obuni makes up for it with his refreshing respectful warrior like character, his great technique and fighting ability, being able to go punch for punch with Ultimate Gohan, etc. He was defeated, but it didn't feel like he was destroyed or embarrassed by Gohan, just felt like two warriors going at it until one achieved victory. I also enjoyed Gohan finding out how similar Obuni was to him, seeing Obuni family on his fallen locket, and Gowasu praising Obuni before everyone in U10 accepted there failure and fates.
The Zeno's annoy me, something has to give with them. Hopefully an argument between them that causes them to accidentally erase each other or something.
>>161094208
The Anime made Hit and Black Goku stupidly overpowered, it's the manga that made them weak.
>>161094305
>Toyocucks confirmed Muslim and the manga is their Koran
Kek
>>161094096
>Red and Blue are pretty much paired (raw strength wise)
please post a manga image or anime screencap confirming that
>>161094408
"Son Goku's Rather Mediocre" Son, Gohan
>>161093666
Based CHADhan pwning Buuirgin.
>>161094408
Son "One Man Holocaust" Gohan
>>161094568
> * it's not the manga
>Champa is going to antagonize U7 until the last second before he's erased just so his brother won't be so sad
>>161094545
Are you retarded or shitposting? Hit tanked Goku's punches when he was using fucking SSGSS+KKx10. Anime-Hit needs no gimmick, he's just a powerhouse because toei's writing is videogame's fights-tier.
>>161094568
Manga Hit still had potential to him. He was SSG level, but managed to push himself above it, although no to SSB level. He even dodged SSB's kamehameha, barely. That's not a small feat in the manga, as SSB is actually a powerful form. Then Goku noticed that he's still holding back, not power wise, but technique wise, as he couldn't kill, and gave up. So there is a chance that Hit can be SSB level in the ToP, but yeah, Goku is far above him now with perfected SSB, just like how Goku is far above him in the anime now.
Manga Black was stupid. He beats SSB Vegeta with SSJ2, and no sold his SSB, but then got beat by SSGod, a weaker form, somehow. I know about the stupid "form switching" shit, but he should have been outclassing SSGod to the point where Vegeta shouldn't have been able to even get close to him or open him up to attack with Blue.
>>161094514
Yup
>>161094494
What's wrong with Hit?
>>161094783
Not enough donuts
>>161094722
"Tanked" one of them and had trouble standing up after it. Shortly after that their fight gets cut short and Goku decides to exit stage. Maybe you should take the time to rewatch their fight instead of engaging in petty fighting over false points.
>>161093236
>he expected anything else from Retcon Ball Super
Who cares anon? There is no consistency anyway, at least it looks cool.
>>161094745
>He beats SSB Vegeta with SSJ2, and no sold his SSB
There was the excuse that Vegeta was exhausted while Black just got totally healed, but I agree that him in SS2 kicking Vegeta's ass was stupid, should just have happened in SSR.
As for Hit, he never got to use his killing techniques, so I don't see the problem. He's still at a very high level.
>>161094745
>Hit can be SSB level in the ToP, but yeah, Goku is far above him now with perfected SSB, just like how Goku is far above him in the anime now.
And we would know that how?
The nonexistant feats that they've shown?
Face it.
They squealed about powerlevels not meaning anything simply because they wanted an easier time throwing random assholes with technicolor suits hair and stupid powers into the mix to sell toys.
That's it.
Hit was good as a powerful tao pai pai/tien type fighter who had a gimmick that goku couldn't really defeat unless he used his trumpcard and even then he lost spectacularly.
>>161094756
This is like the 6th version I've seen of these kinds of pics, though its the first one that doesn't look like total shit
>>161094783
"TIME-U STOPPU NO JUTSU!"
>>161093172
>Cus' face
I couldn't protect that smile...
I liked this episode, it was very enjoyable, had good fights in it and especially good animation! I think we can all agree on that right? Also, i am glad another universe got erased, always nice to see that, that said, the episode had some pretty emotional scenes in it which i felt were handled amazingly well!, also cute how U10 Angel Cuz seemed emotionally affected and sad by her universes and GoD's erasure. And Gohan looking down on that thing with the picture of his wife and kid, that moment was handled pretty well too! and i especially liked Gowasu telling his latest fighter that he fought well, and how he wasn't dissapointed in him. It's a nice fresh air of change as opposed to the other Gods getting all edgy and violent over their participants losing.
That said, Gohan is still improving! Amazing! Gohan doesn't need to worry about tiring himself out (unlike Goku and Vegeta who can't seem to get any stronger) Gohan has AMAZING Potential, and literally grows stronger WHILE he's fighting! He should go all out from the start, since this guy has nothing to lose and can get stronger by the minute. (Remember he trained LESS than a day to reach God Level). Unlike Goku and Vegeta who had to train for 8 years straight and reach all kinds of transformations and whatnot. Every fight Gohan is in, is both a test and a training! amazing! I love it! Along with his white beautiful mystic aura!
This episode is definitely a 9/10 for me!
>>161094873
See, that would have been fine, but Vegeta ate a senzu bean in between the fight, and then continued to get his ass kicked even harder by SSJ2 Black.
>>161094888
SSB Goku matched Hit in that filler episode. Goku can now use Kaioken at will. He's stronger than Hit solely through Kaioken Blue. Hell, his God form might be on par with Hit if he jobs enough next episode.
>>161094756
While I know it wont happen, I wish it would come down to U6 vs U7 again, and both then just decide fuck it, and end the ToP with an even number of fighters.
It would be great to see them kinda redo how the U6 vs U& tournament ended, with both Hit and goku just saying fuck this
>>161095011
What manner of bait is this?
>>161091658
It's not that the crane school is better, it's that Roshi didn't want to teach his pupils any techniques at all so they wouldn't win the martial arts tournaments while they still were little squirts. By the time he was okay with them winning the title none of Krillin, Yamcha, or Goku were even training under him anymore (the first two under Goku's used goods in Karin, Goku under Kami). Some of Tenshinhan's techniques would end up getting copied by them anyways.
Also, Roshi's second student in Krillin grows over time so that he has just about caught up with Ten by the time they fought with Nappa, and then permanently surpasses him after his power up in Namek. Turtle school's style of not overexerting yourself and getting in the needed rest does add over time, see how it's even become one of Goku's canon advantages over Vegeta.
>>161093172
I genuinely liked Obuni even though we didn't get to know him that much.
>>161095076
Gohanfags get angry when he's not mentioned in more than 10 posts, so they start shitposting.
>>161094756
>>161087394
>>161087260
A dycasty draw that isn't shit?
>>161087260
Why is her shadow a dragon dildo?
>>161094348
She looks like a Smurf in this picture
>>161095056
>Hell, his God form might be on par with Hit if he jobs enough next episode.
Just to clear things up, God is not a weaker form than Blue. Goku has been stronger in Blue because of training. There is no reason to believe either form itself is stronger.
Blue has the advantage of no set timer whilst God has unlimited energy and also limited self healing. So if Hit is on par with God form it doesn't mean he's jobbing, it means God is not weaker than Blue. (Also, Hit may have improved, it's down to Toei really)
>>161092375
Isn't Blue supposed to be better than that?
Don't give me the "stamina" schtick that the manga pulled off. Goku and Vegeta were using Blue constantly and had it constantly active in previous arcs.
>>161094756
Universe 11 having 6 members lose so easily was fucking pathethic. And it seems like 2 others are falling too next episode most probably.
Jiren has been doing pretty much nothing since the start and Toppo will probably lose like a bitch too. I tought this universe was the main threat but they're fucking pathetic. Actually 2-4 aren't any better either, I can't see a single worthy fighter among them. And now Hit is being a bitch in the next episode too. It's quite something how they managed to make such a pathetic cast for the ToP.
>>161095202
Source? Otherwise nice pic related.
>>161094038
I think that he and the girls went for Caulifla and Kale, to get revenge for that sneak attack.
>>161095207
The only reason to use god form now is because it heals the body so it's an excuse for Goku to still be at his peak for the coming battles.
>>161095207
Read >>161095202
Blue is just a mastered version of God with divine ki control. Perhaps Goku is going to go God in order to preserve energy, because Blue does use a lot of energy. Shit has been retconned.
>>161095069
>Hey GP why have they stopped fighting? There's only 10 minutes to go!
>Maybe you should punish universes 6 and 7 for their insolence, Lord Zeno.
And now it's up to one of the four surviving universes to decide which one of them gets to use super dragon balls already collected. They decide to continue from the previous match between the GoD's, now with the one from U12 also taking part.
>>161092716
Swap U6 with U10, can't have 6 and 11 going at each other in the first round.
>>161095280
I have no source, but what I am saying is that no where in Super has it been stated that Blue is a stronger form, we have only seen that Goku himself has become stronger due to training under Whis. There is no reason to not assume that God is on the same level of strength, and next ep will likely help confirm this.
>>161094534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJ22lTXMe0
Oficial fucking release WHEN?
This arc is boring as fuck. So much time is spent on irrelevant filler universes.
>>161095377
>and next ep will likely help confirm this.
I can't take anything powerlevel related seriously in the Anime. Toei doesn't give a fuck about anything.
reminder this guy is stronger than ss blue
You know what I've always wanted? A mouth kamehameha. Nappa and Gotenks have shown it would be possible.
>>161093012
Been working on the theory that Blue isn't what most people have been claiming it is (The usual assumption that its better than Red) and just a variation on reg SS with God Ki instead of Normal Ki.
Really the only benefit this gives is that the Ki type works better, can be combined with Kaioken, and according to some can heal Goku/Vegeta. All the merits of SS with at least some of the merits of God, just not the same Power boost. I'm willing to bet that the only real difference between Blue and Reg SS is that it's like Full Powered SS or whatever, where it had a severely lessened stamina use, better Ki control, etc.
Pretty sure overall that its just another fancy upgrade to normie SS. Makes it possible for SS Blue 2 and 3 potentially.
>>161095420
Spending time on every universes isn't a bad thing, the bad thing is that they're all pure shit.
That last guy of U10 should have been stronger and should have lasted longer than that.
>>161095429
Well in that case it isn't worth worrying which form is stronger. Just keep in mind that God has unlimited stamina and some healing ability.
>>161095459
I wanna see Vegeta do a double galick gun by making one with his hands and the other with his feet
>>161095459
>Goku's arms are broken
>he starts firing kamehamehas from his feet, then when his legs are broken he starts spitting and farting kamehamehas
>>161095459
Just saying Kamehameha and firing a mouth beam is the same, no? I mean, the kamehameha is literally just a beam, there is nothing special apart from the name. It is identical to the Galik Gun for instance.
>>161095499
>Just keep in mind that God has unlimited stamina and some healing ability.
With all the retcons so far I'm not even sure Tori and Toei remember that.
>>161095323
No, in Resurrection F (both the movie and the anime) say that SSG was mastered in his base form, and that Blue is the super saiyan version of that.
>>161095569
If Goku loses stamina in God I'm gonna be pissed, Toei need to get their shit together. I doubt healing will come into play because Toei writers are all senile.
>>161095377
>I have no source
Nice headcanon then
>Super has it been stated that Blue is a stronger form
That is true. I think everyone just assumes that it's more powerful due to it being a "super saiyan" compared to SSGod's "base form". Next episode will either prove or disprove your theory. I'm betting they'll go the manga route. SSGod has no stamina issues, but is less powerful, even though that's stupid in the anime.
>>161095527
we always have this
now we wait for Vegetas own Eyebeam
UPDATED
U10 UTTER SHIT
>>161094408
Not The Universal Genocider, his dad and his dad's boyfriend took out half a team by themselves to genocide a universe less than 10 minutes beforehand.
>>161093688
>>161093766
Yadrat is the final boss, don't you see? His people have been fleeing universal deletions by mastering their dimensional hopping techniques, all while harboring a lust for revenge against the OmniKing and his court. Soon the time will be ripe to put the eons-long plan into action.
>>161095623
I really don't expect Gouku having any stamina issues through the tournament. The writers of Toei can't write even a kid plot for shit, it's like they're doing it on purpose, anyone here would do a better job than them at that.
>>161095601
But this has always confused me, because if God is in his base and is as strong as God form, how strong is ss1, ss2 and ss3? Are they all multipliers of God? That would make Blue INSANELY powerful. It would be about 100 times more powerful than God, add on kaioken and it makes no sense.
And if Blue is just ss2 but with divine ki, would that not make ss3 viable? It would be one hell of a multiplier. It just all makes no sense.
>>161095541
Goku's done a feet kamehameha before back in DB.
>>161095666
If that's the case, Goku and Vegeta are universe genociders (not even a word).
>>161095726
But DB isn't canon
>>161095623
>I think everyone just assumes that it's more powerful due to it being a "super saiyan" compared to SSGod's "base form".
Like this guy >>161095601
No where has it been stated that the powers stack or if the multiplier works. I know my theory is headcanon but it just seems more sensible. Either way, I doubt Blue is 50 to 100 times more powerful than God.
>>161095726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpc30Hv63Pg
>>161095808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcpqYxQxL84
I can’t believe that Caulifla is walking into battle wearing nothing but a boob tube and genie pants, and yet she doesn’t feel like she’s being sexualised at all.
Probably because out of all the episodes of Super she’s in, I can’t think of a single instance where she’s being framed in a way that could seem like the male gaze.
You know. She’s wearing a low-cut top where it would make total sense for the camera to fixate on her cleavage at some point (because that’s how the male gaze works), but it never really does.
They actually treat a girl like an actual character and not as a sexual fantasy.
>>161095713
It just got retconned dude. It was supposed to be two forms, Base (SSG) and SSB, but obviously Toriyama changed his mind and introduced the SS forms back and dialed his base down back to weaksauce level.
>>161095859
yeah
>>161094014
Yeah she did, and she's even a sore loser about it. She sure likes playing the "victim". And don't even get me started on her man voice.
Posting the best girl now. (Of U2)
>>161095833
Doesn't mean the powers stack though. As I recall Toriyama said that the multipliers actual degrade as base form becomes more powerful.
>>161092916
>>161093172
>U10 didn't even get a single kill
Pathetic. Maybe if they hadn't spent all their time practicing Ryona for the amusement of Cus then they might have stood a better chance.
>>161095713
ss3 wasn't viable to begin with. Goku only used it on Buu to waste time, since he wanted Gohan or Goten to get to be the hero. Vegeta never even bothered, the same way he never bothered learning ultra buff super saiyan. Gotenks is the closest to being able to use it practically, but even then they can only use it for five minutes at a time, and then have to wait until they can re-fuse
>>161093272
Universe 4 is next... but yeah, your time is coming, Caulifla, Gohan will fuck you!
>>161095859
Who the fuck finds a stick with hair attractive?
>>161095713
>? Are they all multipliers of God?
Not him but yes.
>That would make Blue INSANELY powerful.
That is because it is
>>161095931
I like feisty sticks. They remind me of my second gf.
>>161095207
>Don't give me the "stamina" schtick that the manga pulled off. Goku and Vegeta were using Blue constantly and had it constantly active in previous arcs.
You do realize those two aren't incompatible, right?
Both Vegeta and Black at different points in the manga fight in Blue (or Rose, same shit) for extended periods without realizing they aren't pulling in the full power of that form, typical for the scrubs that they are.
It's for this reason Black is then surprised by Vegeta making full use of the power burst from blue by rotating out of it and to SSG. It's not like it made them unable to use the form or even shown any signs of exhaustion outside of getting beaten up, but they were wasting SSB's full potential.
What would be new for the anime would be the introduction of the short initial burst of power when one goes SSB, which if happens would be in retconning of Goku's SSBKK given how in the manga the stress on Goku's body when he supresses SSB's aura into himself to make full use of its power for a longer time is suspiciously similar to how it is first depicted when he nearly exhausts himself in the anime fight against Hit.
>>161095877
And this would make base not as powerful as God form, but it would also mean that God isn't necessarily much less powerful than Blue- maybe a bit because of the ss factor, but not THAT weak.
Either way, it is pretty unclear how powerful Goku's base actually is.
>>161095889
What man voice? I don't blame her being a sore loser though, who wouldn't be like that in a moment like this tournament?
>>161095859
>male gaze
>>161095207
>Goku and Vegeta were using Blue constantly and had it constantly active in previous arcs.
Time to realize that toei's writing sucks.
>>161093766
Worse than creating Kale. And making her and Caulifla a yuri-shit couple?
>>161095974
This basically means that during Goku's fight with Beerus, Beerus was only using barely a percent of his power, more of a fraction of a percent. Still, you have to wonder how powerful Beerus really is.
>>161096029
It's past time Anon
>>161094286
Try several hundred million, faggot.
>>161096031
Yes because that would mean he was knocked out with one hit by one of them
>>161095987
>Either way, it is pretty unclear how powerful Goku's base actually is.
Pretty clear, actually: as strong as the writers feel like it's supposed to be, because there's no fucking consistency in this series and one episode he can be portrayed as stronger than SS3 Gotenks while in the next he's jobbing to fodder #18 can take care of.
>>161095974
This is crazy though. This means Blue is minimum 50x more powerful than base and God form- so why the fuck is Goku going God next ep?
Gowasu was witness of Zamasu´s power and how SSJB Goku´s owned Merged Zamasu and outperformed SSJ Blue Vegetto, he also saw in God Tube the Hit vs SSJ B + KKx10 Goku fight... yet he is confident Obuni can win the tournament... seriously?
>56 fighters done in 6 episodes
How?
>>161093850
Also all the characters that either spin like Taz or roll around like a giant wheel.
>>161096011
It's more noticeable before she transforms. Like she smokes 3 packs of cigs a day.
>>161095207
>constantly
anon, we're five episodes into a 48 minute tournament and only 12 minutes have passed. Goku or Vegeta staying in Blue for an entire episode can and very often does translate into them staying in Blue for a mere couple minutes.
you gotta accept that time in these things doesn't make sense
>>161096184
It's not a "man voice" unless you've never actually talked to a woman.
Is the manga going with the battle royale shtick too or a traditional 1v1 tournament?
>>161096166
Jesus Christ, I knew the tournament felt rushed but I had no idea it was this bad.
>>161093983
I've heard they're super conservative too and don't like change or progression
>>161096284
You dumbass.
>>161093686
TFS.
>>161096313
I know.
>>161096310
Fuck off, retard
>>161096166
By getting knocked out, are you fucking stupid?
>>161093983
>Sonic 06
Like the comic?
What's the info about that?
And also
>Capping this!
>>161096198
I said previous arcs.
Sanka Ku...
Sankaku Complex...
I fucking knew it. The truth is out there people.
>>161095813
>>161095726
And just like him spinning his tail to fly like an helicopter and avoid a ring out in his fight with Jackie Chu, it's conveniently forgotten by the time he next gets in the finals against Tenshinhan and doesn't use it there when if would have been real useful at the last moments. A big point of the training he had undergone since the previous tournament had been him toughening up his tail, even.
[raffs]
@161096366
Fuck off retard.
1.-Botamo vs Gohan
First of all, Botamo has NO effects on his body from any attack, is in a sense, kinda like Cap America´s shield where he nullifies every attack, he can be grabbed and thrown as Goku or Vegeta did, but he can´t be moved or pushed from attacks and even less be launched in the air (both, melee and energy attacks), so what Gohan did had absolutely no logic. To not even flinch is Botamo´s GIMMICK.
Also Botamo´s arms are enormous so it makes no sense that he couldn´t hit Gohan, and it makes even less sense that he was pushed away by a Kame Hame Ha, even in the air it should have no effect as Goku tested himself in the U6 vs U7 tournament.
This is yet another fight where some enemy´s gimmick mysteriously doesn´t works just to build up artificial tension, like Bergamo´s gimmick magically not working in his final battle.
2.-Obuni vs Gohan.
Another fight without any sense. A rusty Gohan just fought Lavender (the poisonous yellow Wolf from U9) while being poisoned, blind and being unable to sense lavender´s ki, and he did all this with only using his hearing sense with his enemy´s steps and feeling the air moving, no ki involved.
For a now trained Mystic Gohan (well he trained like 2 hours) that fight should be a piece of cake, as what Obuni was using is no other thing but the multiimage attack... a crappy early DB attack that has some interesting properties that works even against high tier enemies (remember Omega Shenron vs SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta trying to do the fusion with the multi image technique), but for a match like this, Gohan should have no problem.
>3.-Fatassbriane breaking Android 2017´s barrier
As we saw, any of the androids are SO superior than non-SSJBlue Goku and Vegeta, so... are you telling me a fodder Fatass who wasn´t even on par with SSJ Vegeta was able to shatter Android 2017´s super barrier that could resist a SSJ Blue´s Kame Hame Ha before???? and in a single hit?? what a joke
Cont'd in next post
>>161096166
>>161096284
>>161096366
Except the anon is wrong, its not 56 fighters that have been knocked out, its 36
He pulled 20 knockouts out of his ass
>>161094096
>Hit being 10 times stronger than SSGSS Goku, Botamo sending hits to another dimension through his belly, Goku and Vegeta being as strong as SSG Goku as SS... You can forget that crap you saw in Toei's sunday cartoon already.
Feels so fucking good to be able to finally say this based Toyobro. We've won
>>161096449
>all this headcanon
>>161096252
Battle royale. The arena and basic premise come straight from Toriyama.
>>161096166
Why do you assume the tournament will end in 6 episodes? It clearly will be longer than the recruitment arc. Probably will last two cours.
>>161096449
We all know Super is shit anon, especially the animation and fights. There is no need to post about it anymore.
>>161093148
>Not headbutting someone
it is the true ultimate technique
>>161092993
>Goku let Raditz' tail go.
Goku's sense of mercy, aka how he got all his friends.
>Goku didn't kill Freeza when he had the chance.
Mercy, faggot. And he learned his lesson for the rest of Z (Super/RF aren't canon)
>Instead of stepping back when he knew there was a problem with his heart, he just kept fighting.
And let the androids kill his friends and son? He had no idea Vegeta would show up and become Super Saiyan, retard.
>Goku gave Cell a Senzu bean.
Because he knew Gohan could beat him in a fair fight. Misplaced saiyan sense of battle and faith in his son.
>Goku could have warped Cell out and came back if he had moved fast enough.
Conjecture. Plus, you expect Goku to leave King Kai for dead?
>Vegeta was the one who suggested the Spirit Bomb for Kid Buu when Goku should have thought of it.
Vegeta is more strategic. And the spirit bomb had never worked for Goku until then.
>And don't even get me started on his fight with Piccolo (Jr.) from Dragon Ball.
You mean the fight in which he spared someone who would become one of his greatest allies?
Get fucked Superfag
>>161096449
LOL
>Toei needs to be exposed on their non constant writing flaws
Didn't they say not to fly or float?
>>161095859
>Cauli
>actual character
> Not counting that Caulifa and "FemBroly" have different hair, face, and outfit
There are ACTUALLY people that think the smug, barbaric girl on the top = the shy, timid girl on the bottom
Remember when people thought Gotenks was Black
>>161096508
Yeah Toyobro, instead we can have better powerscalling like
>SSG Vegeta > SSR Black > SS Black > SSB Vegeta > SS2 Vegeta > SS Black > Base Black > SS2 Trunks = SS3 Goku
Awesome!
>>161096556
Yes, but you can still use blasts of energy to propel yourself.
As seen several times already
>>161096510
The bit about Botamo is from his first battle in the anime. There he had some kind of barrier that absorbed his opponent's attacks. Jaco speculated it sent the energy to another dimension.
They clearly ignored that here though and he was just manga Botamo.
>>161095859
So is this thread full of tourists or?
>sand
Based Garow Lee use the canon version of Hakai too.
>>161096556
what are you grasping for with this picture?
>>161094568
Toyotaro makes every villain weak and ineffective because he's a GT fag who can't stand to ever see Goku at a disadvantage. How convenient that he skipped the end of RoF where he couldn't avoid making Goku eat shit.
>>161096609
Jaco can speculate all he wants, his speculation is just that, speculation.
He was obviously wrong.
>>161096595
Are you this stupid or everything you ever saw about the manga are the raw leaks on 4chan?
>>161096595
Holy shit Toyocucks BTFO
>>161096548
>You mean the fight in which he spared someone who would become one of his greatest allies?
So he already knew that?
ATATAATATAATATAATATAATATAATATAATATA
DJATDJATDJATDJATDJATDJATDJATDJATDJAT
Can We Just Pray The the Manga Version Will Do A Superb Job With This Arc??
>>161096620
What is that from?
>>161096595
Vegeta only acknowledges Black having enough power to beat Trunks when he creates a barrier that stops his blasts, and right after that Vegeta goes Blue. For some dumb reason, Black was holding back against Vegeta even while going SSJ initially.
>>161096636
>Toyotaro makes every villain weak and ineffective because he's a GT fag who can't stand to ever see Goku at a disadvantage. How convenient that he skipped the end of RoF where he couldn't avoid making Goku eat shit.
>>161096595
>>161096663
Retards exposing themselves
Lmao, try actually doing research before you post incorrect memes
>>161096679
Given how the manga fucked up the U6 vs U7 arc, and the Goku Black arc, there isn't a good track record
>>161096694
Last chapter of the Yamcha manga.
>>161096510
>headcanon
everything I said was stated by the episodes themselves retard
>4.- Gowasu´s optimism
He was witness of Zamasu´s power and how SSJB Goku´s owned Merged Zamasu and outperformed SSJ Blue Vegetto, he also saw in God Tube the Hit vs SSJ B + KKx10 Goku fight... yet he is confident Obuni can win the tournament... seriously?
>>161096636
What? Fused Zamasu ended up beating him tough, even if it was a cheap way.
Reminder that Toyocucks are for ignoring, not for talking to.
>tfw mine looks like shit compared to everyone else
Reminder
>>161096727
Wait, Yamcha isekai seriously goes that far? Interesting. Is that the only page available so far?
>>161096636
>Toyotaro sticks with the outline so antagonist aren't ridiculous powerhouses and this sucks because I want to see flashy lights and "epics" ATATATATATATATATATAs
We know, Pedro.
>>161096679
This arc is pure dogshit, but since the manga saved the previous arcs I'm sure the ToP will be at least a little better.
>>161096712
The manga is better in every way possible
>>161092368
He is trained in the way of Soda Popinsky
>>161096661
I was meme'ing a bit, but it's still shitty powerscalling
Super Saiyan Black was beating down SSB Vegeta. At best, they were even. You're saying that Vegeta become ridiculously stronger (reminder than SSR is at least over 8x stronger, since SS3's multiplier is 8x SS1) in 6 months (or was it one year, in the manga? Still too short of a timeframe anyway) to beat Rosé Black in God? Yeah yeah, he was switching between God and Blue, that's irrelevant, he was still dodging hits in God and still got over 8x stronger to be able to beat Rosé Black regardless of the form.
As for the rest, obviously I emitted that Black got a zenkai, which is why he went from weaker than SS2 Vegeta to stronger than SSB, but it's still retarded how SS2 Vegeta was stronger than Super Saiyan Black in the first place. Base Black was stronger than Trunks who was comparable to Goku. And Goku is comparable to Vegeta. So Vegeta should have been stomped in every form besides Blue.
>b-b-but Black was holding back so he could get a zenkai
So why didn't he fight against Zamasu and "hold back" and getting healed and just keep repeating that until he's as strong as he needs to be?
>>161096768
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/13932016480028958400
>>161096671
You're missing the point, you idiot. Watch Dragon Ball. Oloong, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Chaotzu and Piccolo Jr. and Vegeta were all his enemy at some point and all became his most trusted allies. Not to mention the main reason Goku spares Piccolo is because if he killed him, Kami would die and the dragon balls would cease to be. He had it all figured out and even says so. Watch the fucking show.
>>161096768
The full chapter is already out, and no, it ends at the Cell Game but at the end it was all a god game. Isekai-Yamcha is Beerus' player and the other one is Champa's.
>>161096636
His defeat in RoF is pretty much the same kind as his defeat against fused Zamasu tough, was winning but got beaten because of a cheap strategy.
>>161096747
Is this basically the "two base" theory? Honestly even though this get's a lot of shit I think it is the only way to actually power scale properly
>>161096776
Let's not forget the manga is basically how the story would play out if Toriyama was doing it himself. It has the same flavor the original manga did towards the Boo arc.
You think Zamasu had the balls to fight any of the GoDs or do you think he just waited and attacked the kais
>>161096846
> all that Isekai thing was just a play between Beerus and Champa
Okay, that was pretty cool.
>>161096747
I wanna see SS4without pants
>>161096831
>this much headcanon and inaccurate info debunked by the same manga chapters you are talking about
>"I was meme'ing a bit"
>"A BIT"
>>161096636
>who can't stand to ever see Goku at a disadvantage.
Stop talking out of your ass Toeicuck. Goku lost to Beerus, Zamasu and merged Zamasu in the manga
>>161096831
>So why didn't he fight against Zamasu and "hold back" and getting healed and just keep repeating that until he's as strong as he needs to be?
There's a line about how Vegeta was strong enough to give him a boost, which implies some kind of strength requirement. It doesn't explain why he was holding back against SSJ Vegeta though.
>>161096995
t h i c c i s b e t t e r
>>161096995
Yes Beerus we all know you want the monkey dick
imma be the first toeichad to say that the manga has more consistent writing but for the love of god is it boring as fuck.
Literally no suspense what so ever and most of it is really rushed with tons of traced choreography from the old manga.
Current anime ToP arc is already shit and pandering to the main cast so I cant even imagine what kind of shit they will get.
>>161097016
>doesn't counter any of my points
>h-h-h-headcanon! d-d-debunked!
Fucking Superfags, here's your (You)
>>161096646
Jaco speculation or not, Botamo clearly had some kind of barrier in the anime that was completely missing from this tournament, like that shot shows. Every attack he took created that wave effect around him.
>Reminder that Toeishills got owned so bad they started claiming they were victims
>>161097064
Another retard who clearly didn't read the manga. Can Toeishills not read or something?
>SSJ
>>161094311
maybe better then super, but it will never reach the hype of dbz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWYWC7iiBUk
>>161096609
thats just toei being lazy and not animating the punches.
>>161092916
>>161096983
He killed the Supreme Kais.
Black isn't strong enough to go toe-to-toe with the GoDs
>>161093666
Man I wish they had just finished that arc there and skipped all the convoluted bullshit that followed.
Goku saving Mr. Satan instead of Gohan btw at the end, literally just needed to grab Gohan and wait for him to wake up and Kid Buus done.
Tell me Goku wasn't retarded in Z lol.
I just want to hug Botamo and sink into his jellyrolls, I bet that would be one of the comfiest sensations in the world
>>161093770
by absorbing him and becoming Super Chaduu
How come all the Gods of Destruction knew each other and Shin didn't know Roh?
>>161097247
On top of that, Goku or Shin could have teleported to earth and grabbed Gohan for the fight with Kid Buu
>>161097268
>>161087774
>"What the fuck is this SSGSSKK shit, Toei..? I swear I'm tired of your crap"
>"SSG again instead beyond god you say? Sasuga, Toyotaro-san! It's better that way, I guess I'll include it in the outline in the future."
Based Toriyama.
>>161097324
>PLEAE DONT STOP THE MUSIC
>>161097268i wanna fall asleep on his belly
>>161097247
Kid Buu would've beaten Gohan.
The ones circled are going to be secretly overpowered. Dyspo probably isn't very secret though.
>>161097309
it always looks like it i zooming in wtf
>>161097369
Goku wouldn't fight Super Buu and avoids him like the plague, meanwhile Kid Goku fights evenly with SS3 Buu. Kid Buu is far weaker than Super Buu.
>>161097063
Why is Beerus such a slut?
Reminder that Black would win the ToP and beat Jiren!
>>161097126
>Toeishills got owned so bad they started claiming they were victims
Wait what
Really? I need screencaps for... scientific reasons
>The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them.
We did it, Toyobros
>>161097559
>little bit
Its like an arc and a half ahead, and unless he super rushes this whole thing, he will never be able to catch up
>>161097505
Because cum is the tastiest earth delicacy.
>>161097534
Goku+Zamazu fusion is the most powerful creature after zeno right?
>>161097559
>Brought the show to a screeching hault for almost a year
>The big payoff is writing quality going lower than we can possibly imagine
>Toei can't even grasp how time travel works on DB
I wish we had based Shueisha putting them in their place before
>>161097627
Lewd.
>>161097627
Figured You Would Know Anon
>>161097652
Shueisha did jackshit. The anime is still terrible.
I can't wait for Universe 6 to be erased. I hate Champa.
>>161095652
Reminder that the fatter/larger/heavier/more muscular the angel, the stronger the universe is.
>>161097379
seems legit. I think the guy with the monocle is about 50/50 of being secretly op
>>161097477
>Kid Goku fights evenly with SS3 Buu
So Goku was holding back THIS early?
>>161097697
I hate everything about U6.
>>161097697
I'll miss Hit, but I wouldn't mind seeing the rest of U6 being erased
>>161097701
>Korn
>>161097731
Calm your tits. It's not like they're the main characters anyway.
>>161097593
The arc trailer had panels from the manga, he was ahead since January
>>161097763
Dude's tall as fuck. Tall people tend to be heavier than they look.
>>161097369
Kid Buu is probably about on par with Super Buu so no, Gohan would have won that one
Reminder that
>The anime is shit
>The manga is shit
>Toriyama's napkin ideas are shit
You're an idiot for arguing which pile of trash is the best. Thank you and have a great day.
>>161092916
>that small burst of hope he had before sinking again
>>161097841
then leave retard
>>161097841
t. Toeipablo
>>161097841
Yup!
See >>161094311
>>161096548
Yet this "mercy" and "faith" you speak of is seem as idiocy in Super.
>>161087260
Zamasu did nothing wrong.
>>161097856
I can enjoy watching or reading garbage. I just don't pretend to be superior to idiots for finding one piece of trash better than another piece of trash.
Are Saiyans hairless furries?
>>161097768
I'm calm, I'm just saying I hate them.
>>161097926
No.
>>161092248
How do the Spanish have so much time to make these things?
>>161095889
Even more cute in her transformed state.
What if Legendary Super Saiyan is actually just another form of SSG?
SS = SSG = SS Red
SS2 = SS Blue
SS3 = LSS = SS Green
SS4 gets renamed SS Black
A major difference between the battles in DBZ and Super is that the former had layers to it. They were like self-contained stories; each had a beginning, middle, and end that did not just consist of tatattatatata and beams for 30 minutes.
Example using, arguably, the best fight in the entire franchise (i.e. Vegeta vs Everyone):
>Goku fights him 1v1, but quickly realizes that Vegeta has the upper hand.
>Goku uses kaioken and mops the living hell out of Vegeta. You can see both the physical and emotional pain Vegeta endures as a low class is beating him.
>Vegeta becomes impatient and decides to blow up the entire planet. Cue the greatest beam struggle EVER, as Goku sacrifices his body to save the planet and beat Vegeta.
>Vegeta transforms into an Oozaru > Goku is outmatched > he decides to flee and gather energy for the spirit bomb > Vegeta catches him and starts torturing him.
>Krillin and Gohan try to save him, but are helpless and forced to watch Vegeta continue harming Goku. Yajirobe surprisingly cuts off his tail.
>Goku is incapacitated, so it's up to Krillin and Gohan to beat Vegeta, but they are effortlessly stomped.
>Goku transfers spirit bomb ki to Krillin > he tosses it to Vegeta > Vegeta dodges > Gohan rebounds it back to him.
>Vegeta surprisingly survives > notices Gohan regrew his tail > attempts to kill him before he can transform > Yajirobe distracts him long enough for Gohan to do so.
>Oozaru Gohan vs Vegeta > Vegeta manages to cut off his tail, but not before Gohan falls on top of him!
>Krillin attempts to kill Vegeta before he leaves, but is stopped by Goku.
>>161098010
Not sure
>>161093321
>>161093642
>>161093615
>>161093739
>>161093796
>>161093172
Yeah I don't understand why people get upset when someone dies. They died, get over it. You're going to die some day too, it's nothing special. We shouldn't even give people attention when they die, it's like putting a spotlight on someone for taking a shit. Death is nothing, and it comes for us all, so why congratulate people for it?
>>161098010
slave labor
>>161098084
So many different events happen in this one fight, making it like a mini-story arc within the overall story arc, and keeping it fresh without feeling like it's dragging on too long. So it's not really a case of just animation; it's intriguing because of all the layers that make up this one single fight. Strategies, teamwork, cool fight sequences, and genuine tension all encompass this one battle.
I can't think of anything in Super that comes close to this. And I don't just mean this fight (which, to be honest, DBZ never surpassed either, imo), but the overall notion of multiple building blocks making up one battle. You see this a lot in the past.
>>161097688
Toyo and the manga got more power now and the differences between manga and anime are slowly disappearing. Don't be hasty anon
>>161098032
Is it weird that I want to jizz on her face and stain her goggles?
>>161098107
aesthetics
>>161098107
>Yeah I don't understand why people get upset when someone dies. They died, get over it.
>*tips fedora*
>>161098107
>this whole post
>>161092387
There is so much sexual tension between those two. Cauli will be pregnant by the end of the tournament
>>161092916
Kami was a mistake
F
>>161092728
My dick is not in her.
Reminder
>>161098090
Honestly Toriyama should just hire Mexicans to do all the writing. At the very least it would be an entertaining shitshow.
Was frieza recruitment episodes the only good eps in Super?
>>161098165
I would do that all day.
>>161097477
Ok and? All that shows is Goku was weaker than Gohan. Kid Buu was stronger than Goku, Gohan, and Super Boo. Goku underestimated Kid Boo and got toyed with
>>161098228
the baseball episode was the only good episode of Super
>>161098228
Pretty much.
>>161098228
Not if you had good taste.
>>161094408
Saiyaman of Murder.
>>161098284
Would you say the baseball episode the Super equivalent of the driving episode of Z?
even though based Toyo is fixing the shitty writing of the anime, Toei will still find ways to screw it up. So the manga will always be necessary
>>161098391
I haven't seen any of the Z filler
Why are these threads so predictable?
>Shitposting as usual, with some actual discussion mixed in
>Toyocucks want to start a fight
>Toyocucks try to get noticed by promoting the manga and shitting on the anime
>Toyocucks are ignored by Toeicucks, so they create a mini circlejerk to bash the anime and blow Toyotaro
>Toyocucks get noticed because of the mini circlejerk
>At least one Toeicuck is dumb enough to take the bait
>The same Toyocucks roll into the thread with the same exact pictures
>The few Toeicucks dumb enough to engsge the mini circlejerk are "btfo"" according to Toyocucks
>Toyocucks claim victory
>>161098492
t. assblasted toeicuck
>>161097559
Based Toyo
/our guy/ saves Super once again
It's time to wake up
>>161092248
The sad part is that this short little animation made by some spics is better animated than the entirety of Super
>>161098586
but the thing is that's wrong you complete and utter dumbass "super sucks" band wagoner.
>>161098550
You know this is true.
The manga is better! Look at me you dumb Toeicucks! I said look at me!
Normal people: Let's ignore this retard. Hey, did you like that part of the episode where Goku and Vegeta went Blue?
Hey, nobody's taking my bait. Mangacucks assemble! Talk as much shit about the anime as possible and try to be noticed!
if you post a single thing about some retarded childish muh manga vs anime 'war' chances are the world would be a better places if you stopped breathing
why dont goku & friends just use the thingy that lets him predict the future when he powers u?
>>161098586
It's so easy to do that when you can trace shit Toei does
>>161096590
Cauli didn't exist.
The first apperance of Kale upset so many people in the world premier opening that they pulled Caulit out of their ass at the last moment to..I don't know..Fix things?
Also, it should have been Goten.
>>161098586
But its a trace.
>>161098586
its called tracing retard
>>161098713
>places
>>161098684
>toeicucks are normie pretenders
Pathetic and disgusting
>>161098763
>The first apperance of Kale upset so many people in the world premier opening that they pulled Caulit out of their ass at the last moment
Source?
>>161098763
Post a source or fuck off.
>>161098811
>he doesn't exist on multiple planes of reality
pleb
>>161098492
Man you're as delusional as ever
>>161098492
i hope you dont actually believe this
>>161098867
lol
>would be a better places if you stopped breathing
place
I actually hope Gohan is the first to unlock SSGSS2
>>161098829
Cauli didn't exist till after they saw the backlash from the japanese world premier opening where they showed proto kale. The protokale to broly transormation was taken out but her shebroly form was left in.
Meaning that something was going down.
Unless you can show me any mention of TWO female saiyajins or a direct mention of cali before then.
>>161098107
>>161099069
I dont.
Hope Vegeta does it and gets to laugh at Goku for being at a higher level
We all know whats gonna happen at the end of the arc. Freeza's plan fails he gets erased and the others wish back the erased universes and their people
>>161099172
You can't wish back what gets erased senpai.
>>161093731
Twice against frieza, both times called it by name
>>161099202
nice hea
>>161099202
Super Dragon Balls can do anything
>>161099202
just you watch aniki
>>161099243
A-Anon?
>>161099114
Headcanon guy, shut the fuck up.
>>161099172
Nah, they'll want to do it, but the Grand Priest will point out that they just erased them because they were unworthy and they obviously can't undo that. Cut battle against the angels arc. Like Saiyan -> Freeza.
>>161099202
N O L I M I T S
>>161099114
How did it feel to smack the door on your dick? And when are you posting the video?
>>161093731
Saiyajin saga, namek saga where it was his signature move, cell saga.
Only stopped using it because he's goku jr. now and has to be a shitty knock off of him instead of being his own character.
>>161098090
did spics were responsible for coming up with these theories?
>>161092502
Marry Vados kill the other two. I want her support in me getting healthy.While having a massive hard-on from her words
>>161099457
>>161099213
Do you guys have the chapter number? I can't find it. Chapter 303 in the translations (both english and spic) I'm finding online he doesn't call it masenko.
>>161099114
>"Caulifla and Kale are the same character!!" fags still assblasted
HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Who will defeat the grand priest?
>>161099382
>battle against the angels arc
LOLOL
Nigga, NO ONE in that tournament can make the lowest level god stand up from their chair.
How in the fuck do you think they're going to beat let alone take on the angels?
They control fucking time!
They are hundreds of times stronger then gods
They are millions of years old and know techniques that can obliterate people down to their fucking souls
The fuck are the mortals going to do?
They can't even meet up on a single world because they'll just nuke it from afar and kill anyone that can breathe in space IF they survive the attack in the first place.
>>161094096
That's retarded as fuck, yet another shitty explanation in a poorly made manga
>>161099700
Watch Toei fuck that up somehow and make angels actually punchable because fuck powerlevels.
>>161099700
The same they said about every new villain that shitted on the ones of the previous story arcs. They will asspull something.