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What does /a/ think of tsugumomo?

The manga, not the disappointingly poor anime.
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>>161077752
while the anime was poor i'd never know about the manga if not for it, so I have to be a little thankful. i wanted to see what happened at the end of episode 3 bad so I decided to seek the manga, and lo and behold what awaited me was a series with god tier art, good fight scenes, humor i enjoyed, and glorious fucking ecchi and lewdness.

This is in my top ten no questions asked, my only thing i don't like about it is waiting a month for new chapters (but i don't think it'd work as a weekly)
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It's pure shit. It's like Tenchi Muyo, but somehow manages to be even more vapid. It's softcore porn and that's all people "read" it for. Even worse, the mangaka cannot draw a female body to save his life. He draws male bodies and attaches tits to them, they look like fucking trannies.
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Havnt read the manga, but this is a cute wife
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>>161077926
>that voluptuous body
Jesus christ, i already fapped 2 times today
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>>161077996
She's dead though
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>>161077926
y-yeah just softcore porn nobody reads it for the good art and f-fight scenes...
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>>161078027
DON'T SPOIL HE'S AN ANIME ONLY FAG
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>>161077996
you need to read the manga, you get full blown tits. trust me, read it from the beginning, you will not be disappointed if you enjoyed the anime
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It's good, it has a good twist and cool designs, the art is really consistent and the battle choreography is really well done.
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>>161078027
not in the anime
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>>161078374
Not yet
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>>161077752
Nice art but I dropped the manga because I wasn't that invested in the story.
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>>161078585
You probably dropped it before it changed magazines. After it changed to a higher rated publication the author went balls to the wall.
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>>161077752
It would have been better if the tone stayed more lighthearted.
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>>161080144
He had this storyline in mind from the beginning. All that's really changed is the details and pacing; he's taking the time to give the story enough room to grow. He burned himself out on battle in the Mayoiga/Kanaka arc, and gives himself ecchi breaks to balance things out. (And flashbacks to keep his favorite girls in the loop. So many bubbles…)

Plus: It looks like he might be gearing up for a less-censored edition at some point.
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>>161077752
If he took out the loli we would be looking at the next big thing.
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>>161082641
Thank god the loli is still in it then. Riajuu appeal would ruin everything.
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>>161082729
Yeah, putting in pedophiliac content so people won't want to read it so you feel special is the ideal everyone should want to reach.
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>>161077752
I used to read it for the fanservice, but stopped around the time the anime dropped I think. Don't think there was anything else that really made me read it.
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>>161083085
It's okay anon, they're thousands of years old.
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Tournament arc started 8 months ago and theres 2½ fights left to go.
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>>161083240
Tournaments are made to stall, anon.
Be glad the pace of the tournament has actually been quite fast, it's only taken a long time because it's a monthly.
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>>161083240
its monthly bro and gives us more tiddies
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where is the new raws? isn't each 10th?
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>>161083450
mangeka is moving into a mansion so there will be some short delays
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>>161083450
No chapter this month.
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>>161083240
2 and a half? No, just 2.
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CHAPTER

WHEN

LAZY FUCKING AUTHOR
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>>161084431
30 days to go
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>comfy monster of the week ecchi shenanigans
>suddenly, plot and drama and shit going down in arc that never seems to be near it's end

why can't they take a clue from JoJo?
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>>161084639
Because Jojo is garbage itself?
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>>161084639
Because I want this to keep a good art
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>>161083240
>started 8 months ago

Yes. And now we're going into the "good fights" territory.
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>>161084639
>comfy monster of the week ecchi shenanigans

The manga got much better when they dropped that sort of nonsense and decided to have plot and drama. Before that the only reason people read it was to masturbate.
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>>161084639
before
> comedy with fights, lewd and serious stuffs
> now
> comedy with fights, lewd and serious stuffs

The setting and main cast changed, but aside from that, hardly anything else.
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>>161082641
It didn't stop dragon maid from becoming one
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>>161084958
Just need kyoani to take the source material, remove all lewd parts, change the tone and market it to children.
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>>161084923
>> comedy with fights, lewd and serious stiffs

fixed
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>>161077752
The art is good and the fights are fun for a bit, but then they all turned into the exact same shit. Every tsugumomo has the exact same attacks. BIG PUNCH WEAVE SHIELD DRILL CUT, the only thing that has been different is the chain cage shit. The softcore porno stuff is ok, but I really am beyond tired of the neutered vegetarian baby boy garbage in manga.
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>>161077752
I unironically like it, hell one of my favorites. Comedy, interesting fights with choreography, god-tier art, most of the lewds are boner inducing, etc
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What are the volume sales now like with the anime?
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>>161084923
Wonder how fast her tits are going there
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>>161088630
I'd estimate about 0.8 - 1 meters per second, since they traveled a distance of roughly 15-20 cm in about half of 0.37 seconds.
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>>161088630
So what chapter does it get to the lewd parts?
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>>161089292
Like... 2?
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>>161077752
I dropped the manga, never watched the anime. None of the characters really stood out to me, typical spineless beta MC with a bitchy main girl who hits him all the time.

The art is nice but that's about it.
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>>161090819
Did you really need to come here to spout your by your own admission uninformed opinions to people who don't care about them?
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>This will never happen again
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>>161091059
Kazuya having his emo crising?
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Is there a place where you can see the uncensored version of the manga?
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>>161091686
Yoshikadus home computer.
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>>161091622
Just a moment that shows Kiriha actually cares about Kazuya
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>>161091775
Sacrificing herself for him two times wasn't?
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Anyone know how much of a boost the anime gave to the manga sales?
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>>161091817
That moment just stuck to me, because it's the most tender one. She's just comforting him instead of saving him from danger.
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>>161091686
From what I understand, he streams himself drawing sometimes, and anons screencap them.
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>>161092079
What are Toshikazu favorite poses? I saw this one several times before.
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>>161084923
except i'm struggling to give a shit about any of the new characters
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>>161077926
i think he literally takes pictures of himself and draws over it as a girl
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>>161092628
That wouldn't work at all proportions wise. And no, check his videos, he shows doing them from nothing.

The thing you're thinking about was one time where he bought a complicated dress, took the pose and traced the dress while drawing Kiriha instead of him.

Tough recently, I remember him putting photos of Samurai poses on the wip pages in the streams for the next Sunao incoming fight, not sure if he traced over them or not, he probably changed the proportions at least.
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>>161092291
Pic related and leg splits come to mind.
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anime is good
Kukuri's voice is the cutest


managed to get to chapter 55 of the manga but I'm feeling kind of underwhelmed
once you've seen them all naked a dozen it kind of loses it's luster
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>>161077752
Its good
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>>161077752
I liked it.
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>>161077752
Was the anime that bad?
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>>161092079
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>>161097267
WEW.
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It was enjoyable for a while, but then crammed in a bunch of shit I hate.
>parent is the main bad guy
>deaths that mean nothing because you know they'll be revived
>battle academy
>tornament arc
I might pick it up in a few years, but I'm not really interested in where the story is going.
I miss the big titted bird
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>>161097267
This can't be real. My heart can't take it.
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>>161096982
They are just delusional and probably don't remember how the manga was at the start, the anime was a faithful adaptation with some censorship in the TV version.
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>>161098972
>deaths that mean nothing because you know they'll be revived

Yeah, they're TOTALLY coming back r-right?
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>>161077926
This cow is fat.
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>>161082428
>It looks like he might be gearing up for a less-censored edition at some point.
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>161097267
Post more anon, please.
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>>161098972
>>deaths that mean nothing because you know they'll be revived
Anon its been 3 years now, that's 30% of the total run time this manga had so far. Just let her go for the better.
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>>161102979
I didn't realize it had been so long since it had happened. I only read the series around a year ago. It still doesn't change that everything is in place for them to be revived after he defeats his mother though.
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>>161103459
For Kiriha, maybe, but for Kukuri, not really.
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>>161103543
He'll get the stone back from his mother and she'll be revived.
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>>161092291
He likes the starfish.

>>161092860
I wish he learned how to draw feet better.
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>>161077752
It's crap but the art is pretty good.
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>>161092748
He bought miko clothing so he could wear it and draw himself cross-dressing. He talked about how expensive the clothing were.
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>actually enjoyed the story before it went full TLR:D
meh
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>>161103459
>I read the manga yesterday so I know they'll come back even though they haven't been in the manga for 30% of its run time
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>>161083180
Nice meme.
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>>161104080
>they've been dead for a long time
>therefore its impossible for them to be revived
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>>161090905
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>>161103459
You probably speedread, but theres a page where Kiriha explains if the gets serious injuries in human form she ded. And if her cloth form takes damage such as rip it apart or burn it to ashes shes gone forever too.
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Reminder that Kazuya wants to powerful every girl he's seen nude, but knows enough about women to understand that fucking any of them would ruin his friendships with all of them (and his life of free handjobs and "just the tip" shenanigans).

He's not some simpering Tenchi-clone; every single girl he likes/likes him has seen and/or played around with is cock to make him cum.
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>>161103653

Stones don't make a god. Stones are given to gods for them to protect. It just happens the only way you can take the stone is to kill the god. Kukuri is probably dead for good. I was actually shocked when it happened.
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>>161106189
>Reminder that Kazuya wants to powerful every girl he's seen nude
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>>161107453
Sorry,
Power fuck.
Kazuya wants to power fuck every girl he's seen nude.
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>>161108929
I don't blame him.
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>>161106189
Azamis too?
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>>161113531
Especially Azamis.
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>>161113531

Is there any way for Kazuya to save them?
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>>161113714
Defeat mom, tell her true name, take her virginity etc.
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>>161113531
He specifically designed them, so yes, they are the waifus.
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>>161077752
I really like the lewd art, but I absolutely hate everything else about the manga.
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>>161114678
Garbage tastes.
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>>161083240
Waaait a minute, why is the version I saved different?
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>>161101075
Yes, and?
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>>161116155
It's Kanaka's classmate who wakes up after jobbing, not Kiriha.
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>>161116262
Oh, I see.
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>>161077752
i like it. a bit generic but the art and paneling is pretty good.
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>>161077752
Yukimeeeeeeee!
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>>161116229
Pillow is definitely overweight, but not obese yet.
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>>161084431
>lazy
>literally draws for 12 hours a day
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>>161117309
He draws ineffectively for 12h a day.
The reader maybe spends 12 seconds watching this page yet he spends ages drawing it. He could prioritize plot over detailed art and please more people.
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I own all the volumes, so i love it.
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>>161117337
That's still a different thing from being lazy. Use words properly please.
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>>161117337
>waaaaaah he puts effort in his work i dont like it make it shit so i can like it waaaaa
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Yoshi is talking on his stream how its hell to work for Serializations, Jump IE. Since editors can skew what the author / artist truly wanted to do for a series turning it into something else entirely.
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>>161117495
He's not wrong. There is an argument to be made for efficiency and priorities, in any medium.
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>>161116229
Why he didnt make harem of female tsugumo
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>>161117647
He is though it has been years since that spread, and Yoshi has learned how to draw more efficiently, if you were to tune into some of his streams you would notice how fast he draws some pages.
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>>161078479
She's alive.
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>>161117647
>>161117859
I'm more bothered by why he doesn't have any assistants. Everyone does, why not him? He would definitely be way faster with 2-3.
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>>161117950
Some authors are just not comfortable with delegating work to other people. I think Nihei mentioned in an interview that people have preferences and varying ability in regards to what to draw, so assistants might do something in a way that the author doesn't like.
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>>161117950
He publishes digitally, Assisstants primarily help with the Inking, and he doesn't need to do that since it's all digital.
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>>161118099
Assistants also refine rough sketches, draw backgrounds, etc. Oftentimes the original manuscript is just paneling with outlines of the characters, the rest is done by assistants.
All of this can be done digitally, and arguably even easier than with physical drawing.
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>>161118099
Murata's three assistants does all their work digitally.

There is plenty to do even digitally, like simply modeling the background >>161117337 for example, there is no creativity for that.
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>>161106189
This is kinda what puts me off about the series as a whole. He's already ruined the purity of basically every girl he's met so far, the only right thing to do is marry every single one of them.
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>>161118500
>He's already ruined the purity of basically every girl he's met so far

Because most of them were perverts.
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this manga gives me an erection so hard it almost breaks my penis
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>>161117337
>>161117950
Assistants have to be paid by the Author. A Mangaka's studio is quasi a company that usually operates in the red until the Tankobon get's released. If he foregoes Assistants he needs to sell less to reach break-even.

(The Publisher can decide not to publish a Tankobon, though in that case the Author can try to get a different Publisher & Distributor for that volume. That might not work out if the original Publisher puts pressure on the Distributor.)
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>>161119801
Some authors do the necessary steps to increase their output, some are afraid or not enough of a businessmen to do it.
Like Ross Scott.
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>>161077752
It's really good
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>>161119801
Also assistants gets paid peanuts for that work.
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>>161120352
Who actually gets paid well in Japan?
I guess housewives are the real winners.
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>>161114172
>them
Only Kimono Azami, the other one took her form after possessing her.
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>>161120375
It's why the Western version of Feminism doesn't exist in Japan. They realized that they could game the traditionalist system to do whatever they want, because it would be shameful for a man to be out preformed by his wife and even MORE shameful for him to not be able to provide for everything she asks for, because that would imply he isn't a good enough worker. And since salarymen have to work away from home for long periods of time, she's basically got free room and board in a house someone else pays for that she can do whatever she wants in.
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>>161118500
>ruined their purity
With the TECHNICAL exceptions of Chisato and Sunao (who wanted that dick deep inside them when it was go time), not a single one of those girls was originally pure. A lot of them had already been fucked by Kazuya's mom anyway.
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>>161120858
Not only Kanaka is a molester.
Weird how theres zero adult male molesters who are supposed to the good guys.
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>>161121501
It's because he knows that people are reading it for the sex comedy of "Tenchi, but Ryoko literally jerks him off everyday, while Sasami and Ayeka flick their beans in plain view of it". Having good guy molesters would turn it into an average hentai, and no one wants to see Kazuya held down while some ugly as fuck Amasogi rapes one of the girls. I'm even willing to bet that he does girl's only molesting because no one thinks of it as "real" molesting.

This whole sequence made me really uncomfortable. Like, when it was a goofy joke that Kanayama was a creepy lolicon it was okay, but seeing her unabashedly jam her fingers inside of an incapacitated Kukuri during what should be pretty serious moments was not as funny.

The author really shouldn't have done the gender swap chapters, because now I can't get the idea of "If the genders were always reverse, this would be a manga about a magical girl who's constantly raped by ever guy she knows" outta my head.
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>>161121797
I'm admittedly not very far into the manga, so I don't know how much worse or better they get, but the mind-control segments also upset me for a similar reason of it feeling like straight up rape. Although moreso that in those instances it feels even worse because everyone leaves upset and violated feeling.
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>>161121797
I wasn't creeped out in the slightest by the gender swap thing and just found it hilarious if anything, so that's your problem and nothing else.
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>>161122726
Americans tend to self-censor their own thoughts because they're shit scared of being considered a pedo.
You should've seen some reactions to the ch89 when the old man molested granny, people are ridiculous hypocrites.
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>>161122726
I just find it odd that, with the genders reverse, boy-Kiriha doesn't just finger girl-Kazuya (as would be normal with their regular genders), he just straight up rapes her. And not comedicly rapes her, either. Kazuya stays pissed at her for it and that's part of why he uses her as just a straight up tool at one point, which she stayed mad at him for nearly all the way up until she died.
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>>161122936
Are you implying that its a regular thought for most people to finger little girls but don't want to be shamed for it, so they lie?
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It used to be one of my favorites, but I quickly lost interest after what happened to Kukuri and Kiriha. The lame possession stuff happening again and again with the flute as well as that tournament being announced was the nail in the coffin for me, and I haven't touched it since. According to what I've heard, not much has changed since then, so I see no reason to pick it up again.
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>>161122990
Whats the point of sexual assault unless you get an orgasm out of it?
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>>161123116
Never seemed to be a problem with Kiriha before. The only time I think they ever showed her get anything sexual out of Kayuza herself was a side chapter where he's washing her pussy and she moans when he goes over her clit.
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>>161084431
He publically streams himself working almost every day
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>>161122936
Yeah, I don't really get how you can get that creeped by the old man molesting that fails hard in the extra chapter,that shit was fucking hilarious, and especially since we're talking about Tsugumomo where molestation is a near chapterly occurence. The hypocrisy is off the charts.
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>>161122990
>boy-Kiriha doesn't just finger girl-Kazuya (as would be normal with their regular genders), he just straight up rapes her.

Well, that happens after a whole day of build up, and that's his only chance to do it, see it that way.
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>>161123274
Kiriha was abused by Kanaka and toddler Kazuya so she was punishing Kazuya for that or it just gave her thrills to dominate over him after he lost his memories.
I suppose most female abuse is to get mental satisfaction rather than physical release.
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>>161123571
I almost feel now that the author wrote out the Shrine gang because you can make a case that all of the sex hijinxs come from everyone being stockholmed by a fucking rapist. Because, aside from definitely being a sociopath, Kanaka's only way of bonding with ANYONE was molestation.
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>>161121797
How much of a fag are you anon?
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>>161122936
Go into any Made in Abyss general and you see the same thing, 1/4 of the posts are spent whinging about child abuse or sexulization as if they are moral champions for opposing it.
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>>161127513
Is that the NEET version of when black guys say they've paid child support, like you should be proud of doing something you're supposed to do?
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>>161103811

Those feet are fine, there's no better way to draw them especially at that angle.
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>>161118209

There's plenty of creativity in that. Are you serious?
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>>161129831
Its just that in general Yoshi is bad at drawing feet relative to everything else.
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>>161129965
> there is plenty of creativity in modeling an existing structure as accurately as possible.

No. I myself do 3D, something like that is the opposite of creative.

I was talking about the gym room mind you. Something like the tournament place is already more creative, but still not all that much, the ship of Mayoiga would already be more interesting.
Yoshikazu could just give them sketches or guide them about it, he could totally give this kind of work to someone else, or at least the least creative ones.
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>>161130104
I've seen better, but they're nowhere near "bad".
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>>161091755
That is probably a dangerous place to go. I don't know what you could find there
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>>161130776
lots of uncensored ponos and vagoo.
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>>161117309
If he wasn't lazy he'd be able to publish on time even though it took him a few days to move all his stuff
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>>161117461
>there will never be a western release because it'll be tagged "child pornography"
>we will never see the series released in full uncensored glory

Are the French into manga more than the Americans? Don't they have lax censorship laws?

PLEASE!
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>>161117635
Meanwhile, the first 20 chapters are "monster of the day" stuff which is generic as fuck.
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>>161132024
setting was generic but it was still well done and there was already the lewdness and Kiriha's character that made it much more interesting than the usual "generic" series with this setting.
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>>161131577
>Are the French into manga more than the Americans? Don't they have lax censorship laws?
>PLEASE!

Meanwhile in Germany:
The Aunt & Cousin in Minamoto-kun Monogatari got downgraded to make things easier for the publisher. Even if those relationships are legal in Germany.

I guess Tsugumomo is out of the question. ;_;

(unless published by leftists)
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>>161132922
So is she just his father's "friend"?
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>>161077752
I heard Kiriha is dead, or absent, for a good few of the later chapters so I kind of burnt out since I like her design and character a lot.
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>>161133201
No. Just a "family friend".

I guess no moral outrage can be generated about him fucking his not-Aunt.
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>>161084923
my gif has the exact same tiddies

wish she wasn't so embarassed of their size and had the face to match as well
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>>161133459
It's more about being embarrassed about everyone seeing them nude rather than their size. She was seemingly fine with Kazuya seeing her nude.

And what's the problem with the face?
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>>161077926
Agree.
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>>161131577
Im in burgerland i literally just bought them on Amazons Japanese domain, US never checks those.
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>>161133891
But I want to read it in English and uncensored.
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>>161131577
The series isn't available in France either tough. Don't think it ever came out of Japan.

Still, with the recent Anime maybe there is a chance. The ecchi series with that loli vampire is available, so why the hell not.
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>>161134727
Cant get what you want always.
Just tune into the stream.
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>>161134831
Does the loli vampire get naked? If it does, Tsugumomo MIGHT get a release.

But the manga is so niche...
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>>161135823
Found the title, it was dance in the vampire bund, from what I remember there were lots of nude and naked legal loli.

Niche doesn't means much for french release. There was a recent series I read the other day that was 3 volumes long, it seemingly got cancelled, and it doesn't have any english (or other) online scans. It's definitely WAY more niche than Tsugumomo who got an Anime.

It's really just about being more or less lucky for french official releases, like for example Cage of Eden still ended up coming out way after the end of the series in Japan (and series was more than 20 volumes long, so something like Tsugumomo who has less than that wouldn't so much of a problem), and it's not like it had anything like an Anime it back it up, it just ended up happening.

Still, some series still ends up pretty badly in France, I was following Hakaiju but the editor began releasing it at nail pace at some point to totally drop it halfway in the end, I had to buy the digital jap volumes to read the rest. From what I heard that's still pretty rare tough.
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>>161077926
Ok fag.
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bluerays added nipples, praise the fucking sun
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Best echhi that To Love Ru, better fights than most seinen and plot.
Fuck comfy fags.
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>>161135733
We need more anons screencapping uncensored panels so we can paste it on top of the English translations.
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>>161128086
Nah, lolicons just want masturbating to children to be normalized, so when people are disgusted by it, they get up on their crosses and act like they're being persecuted.
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>>161077752
>>161077926
I read it for the story and battles, I just enjoy battle shounen that uses youkai or spirits in their story, I loved Shaman King and early Bleach for the same reason.
The ecchi fanservice is just a nice extra.
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>4chan as a whole is pretending to be hard alt-right constantly
>Still are mad that masturbating to lolis is illegal, but know better than to go in the court of law and argue their rights for it.
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>>161137094
Pedophilia is the only type sexuality thats really still being repressed by goverments in the west. Even in this thread people wonder is it legal for tsugumomo to be published in their countries because of the way things are. So you can say they are persecuted.

>so when people are disgusted by it
If people really dont like MIA or Tsugumomo no ones forcing them to consume them.
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Is the uncensored version of the anime out yet?
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Tsugumomo are merely tools to be used by their masters as their masters see fit
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>>161137576
I was talking more about the people who are mad that no legit publishers who'll release things like this 100% uncensored in physical copies.
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>>161138091
Say that again to my face and see what happens
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>>161138091
How bout I fucking spiral-weave your shit in?
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>>161138444
Merely Tools
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>>161077818
same
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>>161100225
i'm not sure
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>ill never be a shota again and never have a cute relationship with loli granny
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>>161138883
Say that shit to me at Tsuzura and see what happens, faggot
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>>161077926
>Even worse, the mangaka cannot draw a female body to save his life.

Probably one of the dumbest opinions I've ever seen. Actually, I can't even consider it an opinion. It is an objectively wrong perception of reality. You are an idiot and should be ashamed.
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>>161077752
It's good. The current, generic-as-fuck tournament arc notwithstanding, it's genuinely good. It's like To Love-Ru but not horrible. Shows what you can do with a story when it isn't filthy haremshit.
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>>161118209
He has a video somewhere that's a time lapse of him creating that room. A crazy amount of effort went into it.

(Although the video did make me notice that the background characters are completely ignoring the shadows :-/ )
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>>161130104
The problem with him is that he draws man feet on qt girls.
But Im not a footfaggot so that doesnt bother me.
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