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Why does it get so much excessive hate?
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>>160982214

Because he's about as bad as he is popular.
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>>160982214
There was almost nothing good about the show and it was very popular.
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>>160982214
It's not "deep"
It's not a "deconstruction of a genre"
There's no homosex
It's fun and its popular
It also fucks up a few things that would have been a lot better then the story we got.
But it's still good for what it is.

It's really just a bunch of jaded animefans and creeps being bitchy that something so generic and safe took off with the mainstream.
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>>160982214
Because its one of the main reason the shitty isekai genre become so popular nowaday.
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>>160982319
This.
Pretentious e celebs like digibro started to whine and people just jumped on the bandwagon
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>>160982319
Pretty much this.
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>>160982214
Because "hurr durr, many people hates this so I should just hop on the bandwagon to look cool"
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>>160982388
Most of its clones aren't as issue-laden as SAO so I'm not mad.
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It's shit and over popular. What else do you need?
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>>160982388
SAO is better than the majority of those shows though......
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>>160982319
>It's fun
No.

At no moment was it surprising or impressive. People who liked it have just never seen another battle shounen before it.
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>>160982287
from 1 to 14 chap was good anime (reason i guess it gain popularity), the remaining chapters were shit with the second season, movie and probably the third season.
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>>160982710
>...
How long have you been using this website?

Ignoring that, not really. Even Re:ZERO and NGNL are better by leaps and bounds.
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>>160982214
Newfag contrarians. Same reason people think Attack on Titan is shit. Most of those people haven't watched enough anime to understand that most anime is wrose.
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>>160982214
>something really shitty gets really popular and suddenly people hate it
The characters are the worst part of it, anyways.
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>>160982319
>its fun

To who, autistic man-children? You'd have to be really fucking stupid to enjoy this junk. It's treated like shit because it is shit, there's nothing to sugarcoat lmao. get your head out of your ass and quit trying to treat it like it was decent just because it's popular to hate, faggot.
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>>160982435
>>160982557
>>160982319
>samefag
SAO sucks and is for neets
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It is literal wish fulfillment the manga / anime, fucking pure unfiltered garbage

Like holy shit, it is fucking retarded and edgy as shit, who the fuck in their right mind actually enjoy shoving this shit down their throat? Are you 13 years old?

>HURR I ONLY WEAR BLACK THAT IS DARK AND COOL LIKE MY SOUL
>HURR SUPA SECRET UNIQUE TECHNIQUE THAT ONLY I HAVE BY CHANCE
>HURR SUPA SECRET UNIQUE WEAPON THAT ONLY I CAN HAVE BY CHANCE
>I AM ALSO COOL AND LONELY AND HANDSOME AND DARK AND SAD AND SUPER COOL

Seriously, are you of the same kind of people that enjoy Nurutu? Like what the fuck mang. Okay i will give you that it has / had an interesting setting, back in the day there wasnt much Isekai-ish manga/ anime and the idea of combining the element of RPG and advanture was something new, but holy shit the story line and the character are so fucking bad, it is near impossible to like it if you have half a brain
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Because it's not Shin Angyo Onshi.
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because the only thing good about this show is asuna's ass
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>>160983126
I dont like Sao but Shin Angyo Onshi was fucking garbage too, dont you fucking pretend otherwise. The manga was good at the first few chapters / arc but it went full pant on head retarded in the and
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>>160983071
>>160983092
>Triggerfags
Opinions discarded
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>>160983187
they're all degenerates so what's the fucking difference. my point stands
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>>160983187
My normalfag friends dropped it before finishing s1
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>>160983218
I CAN NOT HEAR YOU OVER YOUR SHIT TASTE

You need to watch / read more than 1000 anime / manga to post on /a/
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>>160983092
It'd be more enjoyable if it didn't take itself so seriously or had meme potential like Onii-sama/Ainz-sama. We've all heard the complaints about the writing but man, I don't even see the fun factor in it.
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>>160982214
they wrote off Sinon after one arc and butchered her ass in the anime
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>>160983245
Still getting S3. Series is still very popular.
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>>160983313
shit like this makes me wonder why I haven't just ended my life yet
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>>160983313
Teens love it.
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>>160983071
Unless you violently start murdering people for liking SAO your opinions mean jack shit.

I wanna see people kill SAO fans if they hate this crap so much. People threw bottles at Justin Bieber; I think killing some 12 year olds and Japanese manchildren is fine.
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>>160983463
Sure is school shooter in here.

Go back to school amerifat
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>>160983218
>"triggerfags"
newfag spotted, opinions discarded
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>>160982214
I think it's one the biggest falls from grace. People say it could have been great. Idk if it was that bad. I need to rewatch it soon.
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>>160982214
It doesn't. It gets a level of hate commensurate to its quality.
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>>160983581
edge-kun do you need a hug?
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I tried to finish it again after dropping it for years
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>>160982214
Because it had a decent premise and wasted every shred of promise.

Even the author acknowledges that and wrote SAO: Progressive
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>>160983638
SAO needs more hate.

I wanna sodomize one of their fans in a basement then slowly cut them to death and drink their blood.

>>160983650
SAO is universally reviled so what's wrong with talking about murdering and sexually assaulting their fans? The anti-Christ deserves extreme hatred. There's nothing with being an edgelord about a chuuni escapist story that plays itself too straight. I'm shitting on garbage because I'm on the right side of history like anyone sane
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>>160983661
Progressive is definitive proof the editors and publishers of Japan are retards fixated on rushing everything and/or making everything a harem.

It doesn't really excuse the Yui deus ex machina. No idea why he thought that was a good idea.
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>>160982287
The same could said about reddit:zero and memesuba, except those are actually bad shows
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>>160982214
SAO an odd beast, in which it's both overrated and overhated. The series is ultimately mediocre but ended up being disproportionately popular within the anime community, in turn caused its detractors to be vocal in their dislike. At least that's my observation, but then again, I gave up after the first arc.
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>>160982746
>At no moment was it surprising or impressive
Here's something you're going to have to accept.
All anime isn't for us.
We are the deeply jaded experienced shounen watching anime fans.
A lot of the stuff wasn't surprising.
But let me stop you there for one second. You're probably lying about not being surprised by anything. It was so off the rails and into pleasing the web viewing audience that it completely walked against most conventions in terms of plot and story paths.
I honestly wanted to see them go out and explore that world and fight bosses and have to find this and that, but the story we were presented did not give us this and simply did it's own thing that I did not really see coming.

You're not impressed because you're not the target audience nor does being impressed by it earn you big boy/girl points with the other jaded anime fans.

It's time to accept that the only thing you're going to allow yourself to like is niche stuff and navel gazing stuff made by fans for fans. And that is a very boring, heartbreakingly shallow way to live as an anime fan.
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>>160984046
You're just a shitter with no taste.

That's why you need to be violently raped and killed by enlightened fans with good (or passable at least) taste in anime
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promised great story with interesting character, then throws that all away for a shitty romance.
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If you guys like the concept of SAO but hate the execution, you should watch Smartphone wa Isekai. Not even joking. It's like if the SAO writers just threw their hands up and said "Alright we're not even going to pretend anymore. MC is going to be literally Jesus."
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>>160984270
Smartphone is a bit too Endride to autistically screech about.

Yeah its worse than SAO but usually the shows worse than Aldnoah Zero/SAO/Gundam Seed are the dead on arrival like Smartphone or Rebecca Black/Misha flavored shitposts like Mars of Destruction
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>>160984270
OP as fuck MC from the start is guaranteed for a shitty series, it leaves little to no room for development

I find it strange that although the series is set in a RPG setting yet the author doesnt seem to have any fucking idea how RPG works. Like, nigga, what kinda hole did you crawl out from? Unlike Korea, glorious nippon isnt that big on online game right?
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>>160982319
Basically this.
It's all the autistic Manchild faggots who sperged out because muh generic anime harem over powered MC got extremely popular with the normalfags
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>>160984270
>In Another World with My Smartphone
>Smartphone not a significant plot point
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>>160984408
Your point is moot because most of the niggas on /a/ didnt like it

It is hated because it is shit, not because it is popular. Its popularity with the shit taste normalfags and as a result - brought some amount of /v/ermin here was just a bonus
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>>160983092
Same with akame ga kill, edgy fucking shit. No one said anything.
All the other overpowered harem MC shows never got shit either.
Most anime is wish fulfillment garbage and moe trash.
I fucking hate e-celebs and everybody who watches them and jump on their fucking bandwagon.
Anime was a mistake.
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>>160984046
>It's time to accept that the only thing you're going to allow yourself to like is niche stuff and navel gazing stuff made by fans for fans. And that is a very boring, heartbreakingly shallow way to live as an anime fan.
You're completely wrong. I'm not camped out in 3X3 threads jacking off to LotGH and Princess Tutu, I like plenty of pretty mainstream anime.

Shaman King, Dragon Ball, Hunter X Hunter, One Piece, JoJo's, and even early Naruto all have merit, and most are wildly popular.

SAO really is exceptionally bad. It may be the worst popular anime I've ever watched. People who liked it were either tasteless kiddos who like anything as long as they like the premise or people new to anime.
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>>160984491
No one with some taste gave a shit about Akame Ga Kill, maybe you really have shit taste.
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>>160984553
Yeah I guess it's from the scat play I'd have with your mom every night.
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>>160984463
Not really.

No one autistically screeches about Asterisk on Hundred being low-quality. Hell there's tons of escapist tripe that gets a pass because their pseudo depth masked enough problems.

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>>160984553
Sure man. I believe you and all of your pretend taste
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>>160984491
Akame Ga Kill has interesting character development / archetype , and i will admit that using the sheer shock value of "lel i killed ur favorite character" was a bit cheap - but at the same time it was very fun and unpredictable

Side characters in SAO might as well not exist. They are introduced just so they can die like a dog later or lust after MC's dick, or both for DARKNESS TRAGIC LONELINESS
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>>160984644
Akame ga Kill is still a mistake on SAO's level.

Trying to be battle shonen Nuzlocke is just as bad as harem shit with chuuni drama
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>>160982214
it's okay, I didn't really like it but I see why other people do
this board is getting overwhelmed with /v/ crossboarders, they thrive on targets and this happened to be one of them
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>>160984644
>interesting character development
No.
Maybe if you are 13.
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>>160982761
That's wrong and literally the reason people hate it, though, the namesake arc is a complete mess in the anime

>>160983891
re:zero gets hate and konosuba is only moderately popular amongst normal people

And no, neither of them were as shit as SAO
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>>160984399
>OP as fuck MC from the start is guaranteed for a shitty series, it leaves little to no room for development

Development =/= just getting more stronger.
If you want that then go watch/read about one of the billion and one series out there with weak protags that get stronger as the series progresses.
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>>160984702
It is funny because when it was aired the only ones who liked it was /v/ermins
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>>160982214
People in the thread will tell you how it's bad so it's objectively right thing to do to shit on it, but in reality people shitting on SAO at this point just need to validate their superior taste. SAO is normies' anime.
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>hijacked by 12 year olds
>zero character dev.
>not enough sinon
>excessive plot convience
>lack of good and lengthy writing, but ironically many filler episodes

So, yeah, sao is pretty bad. But its entertaining at times.
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>>160984729
As much as I enjoy SAO as a guilty pleasure the only Isekai on SAO's level of bad is Smartphone, Re: Monster. and Danmachi
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>>160982319
Can you explain what's fun about it? I'm not saying you can't find it fun but I never real!y got it

I sort of liked the appeal of the concept especially since I was getting into GW2 at the time but I don't really get what people love about the delivery. Its pretty substandard in writing with phenomenal production values
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>>160983515
But anon, he is back in school.
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>>160984919
>implying sinon isn't a complete and total retard

it's official, you're a faggot. congrats
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>>160985152
>that picture
Nani the fuck?
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SAO would be better if Kirito looked like this
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>>160983075
>Implying /a/ isn't neets
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>>160986785
This.
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>>160986785
SAO would be hated the same way Fairy Tail is hated.

Going from boy Stu to Erza/Rey is just as bad
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>>160983822
>>160983661
Speaking of which:
http://mangapark.me/manga/sword-art-online-progressive-kawahara-reki/s5/c31/4?zoom=2
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>>160984172
Literally the greatest love story ever told desu
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>>160987357
Dump?
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So anons, I've seen Alicization in my library and remembered that it's supposed to be the best part of SAO. I feel like giving it a second chance and reading it, but what do you guys think about it ?

Is Alicization actually good ? Or is it only good in comparison to all the shit that came before it ?
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>>160988004
It's not the best arc, and it's fucking slow to get going. The starting village part in particular was really boring. Just read the whole thing from the start, then you can meme with the rest of us.
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>>160985048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQVAidHnBo4
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>>160988167
Say what you will, at least SAO had the MC kiss the main love interest. I'm so sick of the no-kiss meme.
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It had awful characters, an incoherent plot, and worldbuilding that made little to no sense. Because these are the metrics usually used to measure the quality of a show, a lot of people hated it. On the other hand, it did basically everything else right: look, sound, "feel", premise, etc. were all top notch, so it definitely had some appeal, which allowed it to grow wildly popular. The people who hated it got really mad that it was so popular, because by conventional standards it sucks, so a bunch of flame wars erupted and people on YouTube realized they could get popular bashing it, and it all spiraled out to where we're still talking about it today.
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>>160982214
Because every medium needs a boogeyman

/a/ consumes mindless moeshit every season, which are worse in every way compared to this and loves them
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The (fan)art is great.
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3825578
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>>160982214
/a/ is contrarian by definition.
Though I might understand wanting to shit on something so mediocre being hailed as the coming of anime christ.
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>>160989352
Yeah, it's not even top 20 anime of all time. The manga is a different story, in progressives case at least.
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>the original narrative only had Asuna as its heroine
>introduce three new characters in a side-stories novel written after the original
>they're obviously better written and Reki could be more focused on their character without the imposed word limit the web-novel had
>decide to include them in the anime
>it only further accentuates how boring of a character Asuna is and how every other girl has better chemistry with Kirito
I honestly think the contrived romance ruined it. Asuna is such a shit character. Good design and fighting style, shit character.
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>>160986951
>implying erza is the MC
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>>160989790
Her asspulls annoy me more than the rest of FT's asspulls.

Something about them feel really tryhard even if FT is friendship always wins
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>>160988167
>Mother's Basement

He's human garbage worse than SAO. His opinions don't matter.

>>160988571
At this point I'm amazed violence hasn't broken out. Or doxxing.
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The king's avater was so much better than SAO...nThere was more action and better story than sao...
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>>160989889
What makes you think those haven't happened?
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>>160989889
>He's human garbage worse than SAO. His opinions don't matter.
What did he do?
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>>160982214
It doesn't, at least not any more.
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kek haters gonna hate xD
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>>160989928
No news recorded

>>160989933
He unironically hypes garbage like Re: Creators and makes SAO clickbait shit.

Crapping on garbage yet consuming garbage is hypocritical and should be looked down upon.
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>>160989635
Yeah it does feel that way. Asuna is boring, really can't remember a time after beating the first boss where I was rooting for her in any of the later episodes or seasons
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Asuna is an imouto. Her oniichan failed.
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>>160990113
shes was most likely molested in her hospital bed as well
any doujins?
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>>160989635
>good design and fighting style
And that's all that matters, Kirito and Asuna fight perfectly together, it's like someone took Asuka and Shinji's synchronized combat, made it a million times cooler and put it in an MMO
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>>160990272
Let me put it like this, while her design is rather singular and, dare I say it, iconic, her otherwise great design is quickly outshined by almost every other character. Lisbeth is a prime example of a character who's aesthetically interesting in and out of game, her hair in real life being different from that of her in-game avatar is especially striking.
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Because newshits.

Watching it air 2012 was fun like almost everything back then. Then came s2 and it was even better until cour2

also [Ignite」
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>>160990195
Many.
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>>160990367
Hair being different is nothing special in SAO. Suguha, Shino and even Kirito in GGO arc.
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>>160990367
And it makes no fucking sense
One of the things about SAO was that your ingame avatar was your real appearance
Besides Asuna is a fantastic battle maiden and nobody comes even close, except AIDS girl
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>>160990463
I feel like Lisbeth's hair being two different shades in and out of game, despite having the same hairstyle, is just way more interesting than looking at Asuna and her painfully drab wardrobe and color pallete. Honestly, they even gave Lisbeth fantastic complimentary colors and accents.

And it's something special when they gave Asuna blue hair in ALO, and she still manages to look generic and uninteresting. She's rather muted, possibly as a result of her dead as fuck personality.
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>>160990498
Nobody? How about Alice? Suguha?
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>>160992330
ALO isn't SAO
SAO, and I mean the actual SAO game has avatars match their real appearance
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>>160983397
Fucking do it already then
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>>160990272
>Implying anything in SAO is a fraction as good as that synchronized dance in Evangelion

Please kill yourself
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>>160982214
because it gets so much excessive love frrom plbians
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>>160982287
>There was almost nothing good about the show and it was very popular.

haven't you seen asuna's body ? she is Literally a perfect waifu
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>>160992641
>Implying NGE is good

SAO is bad but pretending to have taste by liking NGE is laughable

>>160992742
But most of the plebs these days keep their yaps shut so I don't have a problem.
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>>160992901
>Not liking at least one half of NGE
>Having the nerve to call someone else a pleb
You are literally retarded
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>>160992641
Nothing in Eva is close to this scene
Maybe Shinji's red eyes from Rebuild 2
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>>160992991
>Liking the rebuilds
Opinion discarded
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>>160983165
To say your taste is shit would be the understatement of the year.
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>>160993025
Rebuilds are better
Better music, better visuals, better action, better characters, better production, and with Utada Hikaru songs at the end
Only nostalgiafags and contrarians prefer the original
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>>160992984
>Liking overrated deconstruction garbage only kept alive by waifu wars

Escapism is bad unintentional or otherwise.

>>160993052
>Shin Angyo fans
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>>160983661
Progressive and the video game timeline are pretty good.
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>>160993127
>Better production value
Yes
>Better music
Debatable
>Better Characters
Fuck No Are You Actually Retarded
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>>160992851
Did they give her the cousin's tits?
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>>160993426
>OVERRATED LOL XD
Truly a response worthy of a plebian.
Tell me why Eva is bad.
I'll tell you why its good. Good characters who are well fleshed out interesting setting good direction good music and (in areas)great animation and choreography.
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>>160993778
Shinji's very existence is a mistake.

I'm not advocating abominations like Kirito but Shinji is one hell of an entry barrier.
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>>160993679
Gods gift alone is better than anything in NGE
Mari's great in a series full of characters that take themselves way too seriously, Asuka has a fantastic entrance and her second plugsuit is beautiful, eyepatch Asuka is also amazing, Rei is finally shown with some actual feelings in Rebuild 2 and has huge potential for growth in Rebuild 3 and the next one
Shinji actually grows some balls in Rebuild 2 when his eyes go red
The characters are loads better
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>>160993697
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/6262146
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/6072070
They're almost the same.
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>>160982214
It's popular is one of the many reasons. Just enjoy it for what it is anon, you shouldn't care about what anone said on here, also progressive and alicization are top-tier, better than 99% of isekai shit that get shilled on here.
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I want Sugu to sit on my face
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>>160993937
Nigger.

Did you actually imply Rei never showed emotion in the show?
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>>160982214
Bandwagon effect. Most people haven't even seen it. It's gotten to the point where you can create a YouTube career by complaining about the series.
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onahole
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>>160982214
Because you need to watch the Abridged Series.
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Because Kirito is a tool, and the worst MC since Shinji.
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>>160982842
>NGNL
>Muh gamer MCs always win xD
>haHa pantsu
>haHa lewd
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>>160995398
Going from bad to mediocre isn't a real improvement.

It's just stealing things from SAO Progressive/the LN in a "humorous" context (because no one reads supplementary content from a demonized bad show for understandable reasons)

>>160995424
Never understood how he was anything other than boring (anime) or autistic (Progressive and Abridged)
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>>160995359
It's a known fact that fairies are elastic and indestructable.
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>>160982214
Bandwagon. It's bad in many ways, but hardly the worst. Not even the worst stuck in a game setting Isekai.
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To keep it simple. Boring as hell but praised by a bunch of people.
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It's not actually that good. But it isn't really that offensive either. It is so controversial because ecelebs constantly make videos about it shitting on it. Over time, for whatever reason, SAO became an instant way for them to draw attention to themselves. Some channels have exploded into the limelight just by one SAO vid. Furthermore because most people who watch anime in the west are normalfags/newfags/casuals they take whatever an eceleb says at face-value and accept it.
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>>160982214
The author never played any MMORPG.
SAO had premise and it was a new concept the problem is how it was executed and how people started perceiving that it wasnt even close to be a good game to begin.
There was the drama of dying in the world would also mean death in real life but the problem is.
Aside from poor character design, the world design is also shit, there's no ranged class, the only form of magic is used with crystals that cannot be used in a lot of places and boss rooms, only the last hit get drops, no sense of progress whatsoever, loner player soloing bosses and leveling faster than group parties in a game that is supposed to rely in cooperation, since there are crafting involved aswell.
Stupid Traps and so on...
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>>160983071
>Autistic man-children
>Lmao
Ahhh the summer breeze is so nice.
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>>160982214
Excessive popularity.
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>>160984046
>A lot of the stuff wasn't surprising.
No, it wasn't that it was predictable, it was that it achieved mainstream faggotry with some of the world's creepiest, Author self insert writing

>Oh it's okay to want to dick my Brother, I mean, "Cousin" I am in no such way related to
>OH NO SANDWICH KUN, YOU'RE ONLY 14 YEARS OLD AND BEING RAPED BY A CREEPY NEET
>I have an idea, I'll fucking hack into an AI using my 733T bucks and instead of changing a 0 to a 1 to let everybody fucking get out and not fucking die, I'll compress a fully sapient AI, made of terabytes of terabytes of data, into an item for muh waifu
>HEY LETS JUST FUCKING KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU DIE IN THE GAME YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE, Of course, ignoring we're like 17, and we've killed something like 200 people

The second any of this happened, the second NotFamilyFucker should have gotten thirsty, that should have been it. The second that happened in the Anime, Manga, fucking whatever, should have been the nuke alarm for the normies that ate this shit up, to fucking get out of dodge. It should have been the moment when the editor, reading the Manga's name, would put it down, and seriously consider taking out the writer with him when committing suicide.

Like, how fucking deluded do you have to be to not see that the MC was not just a reader self insert, but an Author self insert, that wrote a story where his fucking "Sister" thirsts for his dick, and justifies it by saying, "Well we're technically not too related, maybe..."
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>>160997381
It's fiction, you're demonizing fiction
And it's fucking tiring to see people have PTSD from killing people, I want to see heroic people killing the bad guy and saving the girl instead of "I did morally questionable things and now I feel bad about it" again and again and again
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Suguha should've won. More female relatives should win in anime.
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It's popular so it's bad meme. I enjoyed it though
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>>160983776
>There's nothing wrong with being an edgelord about [...]
That's wrong you fucking retard, being an edgelord is ridiculous is childish.
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>>160997381
It's actually completely fine to want to dick your cousin. It's legal even in the States.
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People are saying that it's bad because of the escapism involved, but as one who likes escapist media, I say that it fails even at that, mostly because the game itself is SO DAMN SHIT.

Seriously, I wouldn't play it even if they took out the death game bullshit and paid me.

Now, give me a game like Log Horizon or Infinite Dendrogram and I'll kiss the real world goodbye.
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>>160997381
>HEY LETS JUST FUCKING KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU DIE IN THE GAME YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE, Of course, ignoring we're like 17, and we've killed something like 200 people

What?
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Simply put, SAO was trash because of the blatant disrespect given to all other characters besides generic godmode MC. Kirito can fuck up however he wants, but he has plot armor and is never punished. The second half of the first season was just the most disgusting trash, with the rest of the series being slightly less offensive trash.
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>>160982214
Because it gets excessive love.
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>>160982214
It's to counter the excessive hype from casuals that blindly parade this to an amazing anime.

personally is was okay.
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>>160982214
Because it caused the isekai's infestation.
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>>160982214
Actually being somewhat emotionally engaging ep1/2 made the drop feel much more intense. This exaggerated the following points, among others:

>author doesn't know shit about MMOs, while writing about them. Consequences are to numerous to count
>story only exists to serve the main character
>characters don't feel alive, side characters don't have any chance to engage
>MC triest to be the batman. He ain't the batman
>villains are boring and only serve as a wall for MC to climb
>obvious sex pandering with candy-colored girls
>ongoing plots become nothing but backdrop for MC to expand his harem
>the games, literally everything about the games. It's all the bad of the show but worse

On the upside, the Progressive manga is basicly an apology letter to all the side characters. It's still less than mediocre at best, but it's something. Also elf tits.
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Klein should have been the MC.
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>>160982214
The fact that S1 isn't particularly great in the first place makes its popularity worse considering how much worse S2 is.
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>>161001424
SAO is not isekai though
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>>161002769
This
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>>160985011
>Danmachi an Isekai
Its not part of the Isekai genre. Its a straight up fantasy/adventure and it wasnt that bad. It was decent to watch.
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>>161001424
It's not that bad.
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>>161003355
Not strictly speaking but it works the same way,
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>>160983661
>Because it had a decent premise and wasted every shred of promise.

This is why I hated it. Stupid yellow midget should have played his story straight instead of the stupid idea of leapfrogging between different games. That "final boss battle" was so out of left field that I thought the show ended halfway through the season. Then he scrubbed the original cast, added in a bunch of new characters, removed any feeling of risk or urgency in the battles, and didn't even have the stones to give us that tasty incest to make up for it. I couldn't make it past the second game, and I highly doubt this shit got any better
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Because it's masturbatory to insane degrees. There is one part where he drives a motorized tricycle and is told that "sugoi kirito-kun. Nobody has ever been able to drive this before" on a fucking motorized tricycle. Now I may just be miss remembering the exact vehicle but it's retarded. It's like imagine if nobody in the work had driven a car, than you drive the car and are suddenly told by everyone that holy fuck you are the chosen one. When in reality it's just because you aren't a retard
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>>160998387
Because the Fiction in question, had a group of edgy teenagers who went around MURDERING People, when you rarely if ever see that happening.

And they weren't fucking neets sick and tired of life being shitty, so they cut off mommy's head and stole her fucking AR, they were just normal shitheads that killed dozens of people, to the point of fucking starting a guild.

They weren't adults

They weren't fucking psychologically deranged

They were fucking edgy asshole teens going around AND MURDERING PEOPLE BY THE DOZEN

NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T CONSIDER MURDER TO BE ENTERTAINING, LET ALONE SOMETHING THEY'D WANT TO DO
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He had sex with a hot big boobed girl and us weebs became jealous/spiteful.
That's the truth.
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>>161004192
>They weren't adults
>They weren't fucking psychologically deranged
Some of them were. The guild leader was.

>They weren't fucking psychologically deranged
They literally go around killing people for fun. You said it yourself, normal people don't consider murder entertaining. How are they not deranged?

You also say they aren't neets sick of life and are just normal shitheads, but you don't know anything about them, because they have no characterization other than wanting to kill people.
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>>161004192
And?
You keep using your personal POV to judge people
People were killing people in a videogame, I've killed thousands of people online, many many thousands
They were in a lawless world where murder is part of the game, I loved laughing coffin precisely because it didn't shy away from this
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>>160982214
The actual SAO part was "okay"
ALO was boring
Stopped after the 1st season.
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>>160982214
Because its popular.
Of all the isekai shit, parodies like Konosuba aside, its definitely one of the more enjoyable ones.
Also the cabin arc was unironically adorable even if it was odd as fuck and deserved no place in the show.
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>>160982214
Some shows are good, and some shows are bad. In entertainment, being boring is worse than simply being bad (because bad can still be entertaining). What's even worse than that is having interesting ideas but failing to deliver on them.

SAO falls into the latter category. The first one or two episodes had such a great and atmospheric setting, but then it dropped it all by episode 5 or so in favor of wanking of Kirito, who is utterly bland in all respects other than being OP and a pussy magnet. I understand why it's popular with the target demographic (15 year olds boys?): it's the ultimate self-insert fantasy for shy and geeky guys who like vidya.

In the end I'd say that it's a disappointing but harmless show. Why it gets such excessive hate from e-celebs is simple: it's a deeply flawed show that's also highly popular. It allows these e-celebs to tear this show a new one with the guaran-fucking-tee that they'll get tons of views. This is why SAO is the show everyone loves to hate, even though I'd call it mediocre at best, subpar at worst.
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>>160983092
>HURR I ONLY WEAR BLACK THAT IS DARK AND COOL LIKE MY SOUL
It's just an outfit being black, not a big deal. Maybe if it had spikes and bandages on it.
>HURR SUPA SECRET UNIQUE TECHNIQUE THAT ONLY I HAVE BY CHANCE
What, you're upset that it's unrealistic? Otherwise it's pretty standard shit, except we know his power ahead of time, instead of it being pulled out of his ass at the last minute
>HURR SUPA SECRET UNIQUE WEAPON THAT ONLY I CAN HAVE BY CHANCE
See above
>I AM ALSO COOL AND LONELY AND HANDSOME AND DARK AND SAD AND SUPER COOL
Appealing characters are standard fare. Kirito decides to be a loner because of the reaction after people find out he's a beater. Even then he tries to connect to people by hiding his level/status, but you know how that goes. Being shunned and then indirectly causing the deaths of several people is enough of a reason for a character to not want to interact with others.

He's edgy and the writing appeals to a younger audience but it's nothing to get assblasted about. The storytelling and animation are pretty good. It's honestly not nearly as edgy as it could be for a "death game" setting.
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>>161006027
>What, you're upset that it's unrealistic? Otherwise it's pretty standard shit, except we know his power ahead of time, instead of it being pulled out of his ass at the last minute
What pisses me off the most about this is that Heathcliff appeared to be another gamer with a unique ability. It made Kirito look incredibly strong compared to the average chump, but near the bottom of the elites. That's a very interesting place to be for a shonen protagonist: it makes him look competent, but with room to grow.

Of course Reiki retroactively ruined this by making the only guy stronger than Kirito the end boss programmer cheater. Because nobody is allowed to be better than Kirito under any circumstances.
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>>160982214
>"Let's take a unique MMO/action type anime with probably some of the most interesting mechanics ever seen for an MMO and turn it into a harem anime with shoe-horned in romance and incest implications."
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>>161005624
>Caring for e-celeb cucks

made in shit in the worst show of the season hands shown, no amount of youtuber shilling will change that.
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>>161006121
Yeah he rarely struggles with competition 1 on 1, but a lot of the show doesn't revolve around that, which is good since a show focusing on power levels falls into a pattern of characters constantly one-upping the others because of arbitrary reasons and strategy. SAO does a good amount of focusing on problems that can't be solved by simply overpowering enemies in the digital world, which helps to make it compelling. That said, there's still a good amount of wish fulfillment, because Kirito is a bit smoother, stronger, and lucky that things go his way than the average avatar.
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>>160982214
Because it's popular and my favorite KyoAni SoL show is so much better!
Just weebs being weebs as always.
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