What does /a/ think of tsundere characters?

They're absolute shit most of the time, and a cancer to the harem genre. Luckily, the industry is finally starting to move away from them.

Also, in before the delusional tsunderefag spewing his usual buzzwords.

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Everyday until you like it, THK.

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>Taiga
>good tsundere

>>160978703
And there he is, everyone.

>>160978601
>notice best girl in the picture (kirino) is on the bad side
>realize this guy obviously has shit taste
>notice asuka on a tsundere chart
>realize not only does he have shit taste but he doesnt even know what a tsundere is

>>160978601
>Kirino, Mine, Shana, Asuka
>bad
No.

>>160978601
I don't understand why Taiga is on the good side.

>>160978601
They're the best dere archetype when done right. The mediocre ones can still be good with proper execution.

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>>160978601

>>160978601
>Eri, Shana, Hina, Louise, Shion, Naru, Mine, Kirino
They should be on the right. The hell is wrong with you?

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>>160978601

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>>160978601
Here's the answer to all and any autistic matter.

>Yuuji

I don't remember Yuuji being tsundere, maybe awkward.

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>>160978601
Tsundere is a miracle of the universe that Japan has ever made. Bonus if the MC is tsundere too.

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>>160979265
He's kuudere

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>>160978703
This.

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>>160978601
Tsunderes are cute

>>160978601
>>160978978
I'm glad Erina is getting the recognition she deserves.

>>160979515
I wouldn't say Shampoo is a tsundere.

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>>160978601
They are the most distinctive and popular type of characters to come across in anime, manga, light novels, and games within this relevant and related industry. Also the most diverse and arguably the most complex in nuances among the numerous and continously expanding variations that exist.

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>>160979764
The best one.

>>160979764
Tsundere and tsunbaka are the best.

>>160978601
All tsundere are shit.
tsundere is just another term for a bitch.
Glad that for now they are straying away from the tsundere cliche. Let it die soon.

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>>160978601
Erina-sama a best

>>160978601
asuka is not a tsundere by any means.

>>160981631
>a girl who gradually warms up to you is a bitch
Okay then.

>>160981732
Tsunderes don't really warm up as much as they cool down from having constant eruptions. It's better to not get burned in the first place.

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>>160981732
>Accidentally touches a part of her body
>Punches the mc
>A friend did something wrong
>Blames the MC, gets punched
>MC is on the right
>Punches the MC anyway
>MC saves the tsudnere bitch
>still gets punched
>MC says "thank you"
>Bitch be like "I didn't do it for you b-baka!"
>MC gets punched
>Too many to fill this up I will be making a book

Tell me more about how tsundere bitches aren't a bitch and the worst.

>>160981676
Yes she is you fucking retard

>>160981634
>Himedere aren't the same Tsundere
>tfw people fanboys over Erina and doesn't even what she is

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Crab and Math are the two best tsundere of all time.

>>160978601
>Sayoran
>good
So whoever do these charts don't even watch anime yet come here to talk shit about anime? So the rumors were true.

>>160982105
She's technically a tsundere but only towards the food Soma makes, that's where she goes full dere when she eats it but is tsun to admit it's delicious.

>>160981920
>>160982045
Not all tsundere are like that. See this >>160978978

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>>160982045
>Watches shows with shit tsundere and tries to typecast all of them
>Remfag
It all comes together.

>>160982350
>Toradora is a good show
>Taiga still a shit
>Used Rem for the meme
>Not even a Rem fan
>Automatically thinks I'm a Remfag
Tell me more about how and why you're retarded?

Can I report someone for being too stupid? >>160982654

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Pinnacle of tsunderes right here.

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>>160983109
Yes.

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>>160982902
>Tfw a tsunderefag get triggered so bad he calls for back up

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>>160978601
>>160978703
>>160978760
>>160978763
>>160979037
>>160979460
>>160979764
Fuck You Miserable Shit

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>>160983608

>>160983608
>ESL-kun
All the usual shitposters are now here.

>>160983608
More trolling than OP's.

>>160979515
That cunt of shampoop isn't a tsundere

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the only good tsundere

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>>160982045
shut up fuck off remfag

>>160979764
I love all of them. Tsundere are love. Tsundere are life.

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>>160983643
>Not shitty tsundere
>Shitoge

>>160978601
Aren't the bad tsundere just tsun tsun with no dere?

>>160983657
And you are the same
Pathetic, Miserable, Unhappy, Stupid, Idiot, Autistic, Retarded, Ignorant, Hypocrite, Hater Faggot with Shit Taste

>>160983778
stay mad onoderafag or marikafag

>>160978601
Nowadays tsundere simply means violent psychopath.
Can be interesting characters if done right, though that's extremely rare.

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>>160983746
The stupidity when someone doesn't read the the comment thread.

>>160983681
OP chart design is shit

>>160983826
Nisekoi is shit all together. Wtf are you saying?

>>160983414
What is a tsunderefag? A tsundere only magic is the change from tsun to dere, there's nothing else and nobody would ever say "I like it because tsundere", being a "tsunderefag" is an impossibility.

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>>160978601
>not posting the best tsundere

>>160983608
All the characters in the top are garbage compared to Hana.

>>160983880
yes was a shit, and?
>>160983846
>remfag believes be the winner
Pathetic

>>160983913
>>160983725
>>160983608
What does tsundere even fucking means anymore.

Is Maki a good tsundere? What about Nico?

>>160983970
Shit Taste Fag as Fuck

>>160983608
Haruhi isn't even a tsundere.

>>160984019
Maki is a good tsundere, nico is still a child but she is top tier

>>160978601
>shitrina chick from shitty cooking manga
>good in any way
What type of garbage shit hole do you live in where your ideal girl is a spoiled rich brat who would go out of her way to try and deny some fuckers education who she doent even know?

>>160984028
tsunshit

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>>160983913
Maybe not best, but she's up there.

>>160983979
You're retarded. Here I'll guide you to where it is you illiterate fuck,
>>160982654

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The true classic of tsundere example.

>>160983911
If you find violent tsun to be an acceptable part of a relationship, you are a tsunderefag.

>>160984513
Why wouldn't that be acceptable?

>>160984513
Your butt must be extremely sensitive and projective as fuck.

>>160984575
Because well-adjusted people don't hit people they like.

>>160984513
>can't handle cute and comical violence
Soccer mom pls go.

>>160984626
>well-adjusted
>in fictional anime
You're joking, right?

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>>160984630
It's not cute anymore when they send people flying or bring out horse whips.

>>160984649
Why would a violent bipolar bitch be any less annoying just because it's anime? If you're going to go for 2D, there's no reason to accept 3DPD behavior like that.

>>160984626
You obviously know nothing of Asian culture.

Tsundere is a mistake. Must be the most cancerous thing brought upon by the nips for their character. People liking tsundere are just reatarded masochists who likes women to handle them. Betas.

>>160984706
Knowing the difference between 3D and 2D is the first thing you learn and understand. Are you seriously going to ask stupid questions like that?

>>160978601
>Shana
>Bad Tsundere
>Literally grows as a character to the point that she is no longer a tsundere at the end of the series.

Stop.

>>160984710
The ideal women in Asian culture are demure housewives (i.e yamato nadeshiko), actually. Stronk womyn bitches like tsunderes are the polar opposite of that.

>>160984658
Source? Ended up getting a hentai gender bender series instead.

>>160984765
>Knowing the difference between 3D and 2D is the first thing you learn and understand.
Exactly. In a dimension of ideal women, there's no reason to put up with abusive bitches unless you're a masochist, and then the dere just gets in the way.

>>160984826
You're dumb. That's like saying emotionless, autistic, batshit insane, frigid cold, or super infatuated 2D girls are all bad because IRL they're annoying and not cute. There's a clear difference and if you don't get it by now then it means you're new.

>>160984772
Why is someone allowed to be so fucking stupid? The only good thing is that you leave without a doubt the kind of people that shitpost about tsunderes, if we can call one or two guys "people".

>stronk womyn
Fuck this, i'll report you and see if god exists.

>>160978601
but anon Akane is a classic tsundere.

>>160984956
No, most of those other than the batshit insane (which is basically what tsunderes are) actually have some kind of appeal IRL too. Tsundere is the only personality so bizarre and irrational that people had to make up a completely new word in order to push it.

>>160984975
>e-everyone but me is one person!
Sure thing. Not like tsunderes haven't been constantly bashed everywhere for decades due to how insufferable they are.

>>160985090
If you think they have some kind of appeal in IRL, but the bitchy/abusive girl that warms later somehow doesn't? It's clearly as day you're biased. Yandere or yangire are batshit insane, tsundere are not. Cure your ignorance please.

>>160985250
That's literally a battered wife syndrome you have there if you think a violent partner is acceptable.

>>160983643
>Haruhi
>Tsundere
But she's not...

>>160984796
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_a_lie_is_not_told_it_cannot_become_yuri

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>>160983970
>garbage
>Eri
>Hakua
>Hinagiku
I return that word right back to you.

>>160985340
Not anywhere near being the same thing in 2D. You're reaching.

>>160984772
Asian in general and not just one of nips' one ideal version. In Asia drama and literature, the violent heroine who gets into agruments and fights with the MC at the beginning and later turn into lovers is as old as dirt. For Japan, there are generations of people who are sick and tired of living a slave life to society after high school. Always polite and submissive and meek with the same routine that devour their life. This is why the concept of otaku has become a liberating phenomenon that allows people to escape from reality by consuming entertainment, hobbies, or a belief founded in anime/manga/games/LN/etc to break away from normal society. The rise of tsundere's ever growing permeating popularity that contrasts yamato nadeshiko is a factor in all that.

>>160978601
would change shitty taiga for that girl from sao

>>160978703
Second post best post.

>>160984826
>>160985090
This ngga. Nobody likes doormats or bitches in real life. But in fiction where realism is stretched and distorted, they can be appealing and likable because authors are literally capable of pandering to people's fetishes in a safe and flawless fantasy without ugly aspects founded in reality.

>>160985390
Literally the same thing. Stay mad.

>>160985398
>Asian in general
Nobody cares about your manwha or whatever. Japan is what's relevant.
>For Japan, there are generations of people who are sick and tired of living a slave life to society after high school. Always polite and submissive and meek with the same routine that devour their life. This is why the concept of otaku has become a liberating phenomenon that allows people to escape from reality by consuming entertainment, hobbies, or a belief founded in anime/manga/games/LN/etc to break away from normal society.
Nice, but that doesn't mean being tied down to an abusive relationship would be desirable. Maybe women would enjoy self-inserting as tsunderes, but a man has no reason to like them.

>>160978734
More tolerable than Louise at least.

>>160985580
It's not and you know it isn't. You're just reaching.

>>160985580
>Japan
Majority of Asia culture derives from China, Japan, and of late Korea in that order. You don't get to nitpick and be selective when the concept akin to tsundere in question applies.

You don't know anything. Change is one of the most important things people desire and love about tsundere. The other is the personality that constitutes them (mainly playfully willful, headstrong, quarrelsome, and/or standoffish) and the pleasure of enjoying the warm/endearing interactions and bonding that's involved in changing a hostile relationship into a romantic relationship one. Given that, there's no reason for you to think guys can't like that. I'm a guy and I love that kind of thing, especially so since I like girls that are fun, engertic, lively, mischievous, bratty, playing hard to get, a spitfire fighter.

>>160983608
I agree with this chart

>>160986031
Well said.

>>160986031
>You don't get to nitpick and be selective when the concept akin to tsundere in question applies.
Actually, yes we do. Stay mad. Yamato nadeshiko is literally the Japanese ideal by definition, by the way.
>Change is one of the most important things people desire and love about tsundere.
No need to have a change from bad to good when there can be a change from good to good instead.
>(mainly violent, bipolar, quarrelsome, and/or standoffish)
Fixed that for you.
>changing a hostile relationship into a romantic relationship one
So, literally a battered wife syndrome, then.
>there's no reason for you to think guys can't like that
Sure, guys can enjoy getting hit, if they're masochists.
>I like girls that are fun, engertic, lively, mischievous, bratty, playing hard to get, a spitfire fighter.
You can get just about all of that with a genki girl too.
>>160986198
Nice samefag there.

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>>160986386

>>160978601
I largely agree with that image, but I have to say that Sinon wasn't that bad of a tsundere. She's pretty average, but she's not bad.

>>160986406
>if we can call one or two guys "people".

>>160986386
>no u
>my opinion that's fact > your opinion that's wrong
Not him, but you're mad as hell.

>>160985580
Well said.

>>160978601
Misaka isam the perfect example of a shitty Tsundere. She is a mature character when she is by herself and is clearly strong enough to take the trauma (at least for some time)of seeing her clones die, but get her within 10 meters of Touma and she turns into an autistic child. This is what happens when you write characters and archetypes first and as humans second.

>>160978601
The prime example of a perfect Tsundere will always be Taiga
>She is always at the offensive because deep inside she has many insecurities
>Will always remind you who she is with little physical violence and small taunts like dog, showing that you are her property, but would never harm you on physiologically level.
>She likes to show her dominance and ownership to everyone around, but you both know it's is mutual, she will always be yours.
>Acknowledges you are a person and you still deserve your personal space, but would always love to hear your problems and help with them.
>Even though she will always try to rule on the realtionship, she has no problem if you take the initiative and the guide her through new experiences.
Everything else is based off her or its just an attempt to be a Tsundere.

>>160986934
>Everything else is based off her
How new are you? She's literally a clone of a clone.

>>160986386
I've explained why you can't. And YN is an ideal from an old traditional era, and frankly outdated save for career housewives in traditional families in present real life. It's actually unrealistic. Most modern Japanese girls would resent that old restrictive and stuffy way. But I digress
>goid to good
Good to good is not change, that's static. But more importantly it's not about good or bad when change is concerned. Flaws that can be appreciated and appealing because a person without any may be boring or too perfect or due to the desire to see them develop, even if a little as sometimes it's the little things that have big impact.
>Fixed
Violent is redundant and bipolar is a buzzword that has no meaning and relevance since it's inaccurate and doesn't describe tsundere at all.
>battered wife syndrome
A simple google can tell anyone it's not the same thing, much less what tsundere is about at all. I dare you to give at least 5 couples that exhibited and went through such mental disorder.
>masochists
Not at all. I myself am not. There's already sadistic and femdom archetype that differs and caters to those who are M. But either way, you're backpedaling.
>genki
In some ways, yes, and I quite like genki. But genki types aren't willful, aggressive, feisty, and serious.
>samefag
The old others who agree means same person meme, eh.

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>>160986934
I wouldn't consider Taiga a base model, but she's perfect and great.

>>160978601
It's always the same shitty OP. At least put in the effort to make a chart that doesn't look like shit made by an 8-year-old made in MS paint.

People just call any girl with bantz a tsundere and then make sweeping generalizations like >>160982045 based off the worst examples of the trope. This thread is going nowhere.

>>160987850
It's supposed to be ironic for le ebin shitposting.