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Dōjin Circle Numbers Reveal Top Series at Comiket 92

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Number crunchers rejoice, the stats for this month's Comic Market 92 reveals some interesting trends for what series are burning up the charts, at least when it comes to fan-made manga. Comiket utilizes "genre categories" that can move around based on popularity. Some categories are just single series unto themselves, while others are based around subject and publisher like Jump sports, shōnen manga, or romance games. Taking a look at the first graph, analysis author, Meiji University Yoshihiro Yonezawa Memorial Library staff member, and Niconico Gakkai β executive committee member "myrmecoleon" measured the percentage of circles in each the categories. These categories include both the subjects the manga are based on and multimedia categories, like music.

The largest percentage goes to Games (21%), followed by Other: For Men (13%), Anime (11%), Original Work 11%, Galge (bishōjo dating sims) 10%, Dōjin Soft (self-made games) 9%, Manga (not Jump) 7%, Critique/Mecha/Military 7%, Manga (Jump) 6%, Self-produced Music, Sports, & Dramas 3%, and Fan fiction 2%.

Looking at the catalog closer reveals which specific works are the most popular. Kantai Collection remains the top contender, as it as for the last two years. The ship girls are followed by the Touhou Project maintaining the spot after previously losing it to DMM's Tōken Ranbu. The IDOLM@STER game is in third place followed by Tōken Ranbu in fourth. Fifth place is the entire Nasuverse, or Fate franchise.
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The rest of the the graph entries are: Love Live!, Yuri!!! on Ice!, Girls und Panzer, Granblue Fantasy, Haikyu!!, Mr. Osomatsu, Vocaloid, Tiger & Bunny, Kuroko's Basketball, Attack on Titan, Ensemble Stars, Yowamushi Pedal, World Trigger, Hetalia, Blood Blockade Battlefront, and My Hero Academia.

Blue bars represent popularity among men's circles, red as women's circles, and purple as both. The gray bar represents the amount at Comiket 91.

This year's event takes place from August 11-13 at Tokyo Big Sight, the second to last Comiket before the event moves to accommodate construction to prepare for the 2020 Olympic Games. Even though the event isn't moving yet, it's worth noting that the venue's West 1 and 2 Halls are closed for renovations causing a decrease in available space for vendors. Comiket draws huge numbers twice a year, but this year's will be the event's smallest in a decade. The event is losing approximately 3,400 circles due to the space closure.

Even taking this into consideration, myrmecoleon notes that the drop in Touhou Project and Mr. Osomatsu circles is more than expected. Fate-related circles also increased greatly, likely due to the popularity of the Fate/Grand Order mobile game.

myrmecoleon predicts, based on popularity on pixiv from June 1 to July 31, that Kemono Friends will see a huge increase at Comiket 93, from 90 circles to the 200-400 range. They also expect an increase in My Hero Academia thanks to the character Himiko Toga, as well as Mr. Osomatsu in time for its second season.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/interest/2017-08-09/dojin-circle-numbers-reveal-top-series-at-comiket-92/.119929
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Had granblue always been this popular? Do you happen to have the last few years for reference?
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Was this the year where comiket needs to find a new venue for C93 and beyond?
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>>160932335
Dumb Satania poster.
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>>160932212
KanColle 2329
Touhou Project 1320
The IDOLM@STER 1299
Touken Ranbu 1244
Fate series 1129
Love Live 576
Yuri!!! on Ice 552
Girls und Panzer 420
Granblue Fantasy 380
Haikyu!! 354
Osomatsu-san 318
Vocaloid 306
Tiger & Bunny 268
Kuroko no Basuke 267
Attack on Titan 266
Ensemble Stars 241
Yowamushi Pedal 219
World Trigger 158
Hetalia 147
Kekkai Sensen 122
Boku Hero Academia 107
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>>160932245
I feel so homosexual just reading that list of series, both in the /y/ and /u/ sense.
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>>160932212
>Kancolle still going so strong
Just....how? They have fuck all music compared to 2hu, and even the creator has long since moved on to a new series.
The only thing keeping it running is Kadokawa aka corporate jews who are still trying to milk it as much as possible.
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>>160932335
It has it's own event actually.
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>>160932212
>World trigger that high even with infinite hiatus

Nice
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>>160932212
>2hu barely above idolshit
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>>160932579
>and even the creator has long since moved on to a new series.

Which is?
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>>160932787
Both are cancer.
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>>160932212
>world trigger
That is still relevant ?
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>>160932335
it's meme
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>>160932212
>>160932480
Kancolle beating Touhou
Im@s beating Love Live
Touken Ranbu beating Fate

What the fuck is this timeline?
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>>160932591
>own event
Here are all the doujin type events upcoming planned
8/27 フレンズいっぱい!とうかいちほー (愛知)
8/27 こーべちほー (兵庫)
9/10 フレンズいっぱい!かんとうちほー (東京)
9/10 すっごーい!たーのしー! 3 (熊本)
9/23 フレンズチホー2 (東京)
9/23 フレンズいっぱい!ほっかいどうちほー (北海道)
10/1 ジャパリパークで大騒ぎ!3 (東京)
10/8 すっごーい!たーのしー! 4 (大分)
11/5 すっごーい!たーのしー! 5 (福岡)
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What's Kantai Collection's popularity all about?
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>>160932906
People aren't really into aqours as much they are into µ's
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>>160932212
I don't want Touhou to drop anymore than that, stop.
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Kancolle doujins are shit though, You find one good one out of 500 shit ones.
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>>160932930
Lots of girls to draw. It's not inaccurate to say a majority of the playerbase has dropped kancolle game itself due to unfun it can be.

A lot of Japanese players mostly play Kancolle arcade now a days
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>>160932928
Holy shit.
I thought there is only 1 upcoming Japariket
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>>160932930
Iku is literal sex on legs.
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>>160932906
Idolmaster always beats Love Live in Comiket. It just has way more girls.
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how are there still people not bored with kancolle
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>>160933006
Well they aren't really shit, it's more like they're all the same, it just gets boring.
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So... Boats, 2hu and fate.

Things are starting to get a bit stale.
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>>160932906
I thought there had always been more Im@s circles than LL circles?
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>>160933062
What is that some new boatslut?
That gets said about some new boatslut every year
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>>160932480
>Boku Hero Academia 107
that's why the sales and the ratings are low, the girls don't care about the series.
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>>160933105
That boatslut has the best scanned doujin out at the moment.
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Anyone worried about Touhou's "declining" popularity without considering Reitaisai is retarded.
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>>160933133
Which one would that be?
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>>160933029
Japariket 4 was announced recently. Japariket 3 took place last month.
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>>160933133
Too much boats so little abyssals.
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>>160933161
https://nhentai.net/g/110237/
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>>160933199
>nhentai
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>>160932906
>Kancolle beating Touhou
>Touken Ranbu beating Fate
Old news, are you living under a rock?
At this rate all of them will be beaten by Fateshit in C93 or C94.
>>160932983
Everything has big drops, except Fate, GuP and Vocaloid.
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>>160932212
>mfw everything listed there is shit
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>>160933145
Is there actually any numbers about Reitaisai? I don't lurk /jp/ enough to know.
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>>160933253
Dumb Miyazakiposter.
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Fuck kancolle
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>>160933199
Eh, this is actually kind of generic. Art's good but just eh.
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>>160933199
>not Saratoga and Souryuu

https://nhentai.net/g/115244/
https://nhentai.net/g/191691/
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>>160932480
>Touken Ranbu 1244
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF FUJOS
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>>160933199
>>160933360
Why are you faggots not using the panda?
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>>160933346
If I wanted a story I'd just find one with fat old men fucking Shimakaze-kun in the ass.

Story-centric Kancolle doujins, what the fuck man
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>>160933393
>normiehentai
geez, I wonder why
also the less people ask or even mention the panda, the better
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>>160933406
I think he meant generic art style
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>>160933417
>normie

Back to whatever shit board you came from
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>>160933417
>>normie
Hello crossboarder.
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>Fate doubling it's share
I hope there's some good stuff in there
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>>160932245
>>Boku no Hero Academia has more than 100 doujin circles releasing its doujins
>>We still barely have any decent het doujins

Suffering
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>>160933459
Enjoy more BL doujins thanks to FGO.
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>>160933393
Because my browser porn profile with logins isn't on, nothing wrong with nhentai.
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Any boat doujins have a more involved plot than "MUH TEITOKU"?
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>>160932212
>Source: ASCii x Digital via Yara-on!
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>>160932480
>Yuri!!! on Ice 552
I expected more, apparently nip fujos only care about swords.
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>>160933346
Kancolle doujins just suffer from being boring as fuck. There's good stuff but the majority is just boring
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>>160933523
Nah.
Maybe not translated.
Boatsluts are far off from reaching the amount of non-H or story-centric doujins like Touhou has.
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>>160932480
>World Trigger 158

Damn.
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>>160932576
And people still say that yurifags and fujos don't exist anymore and are dead.
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>>160932579
Silly Anon, Jews fear the samurai.
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>>160933578
Non-H Nasuverse used to be a riot long ago, what happened to those?
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>>160932579
>and even the creator has long since moved on to a new series.
What the fuck are you talking about? Tanaka is still dev director for the game. Or are you the kind of retard who thinks the anime is the source material.
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>>160933578
There is some good non H doujins, but I feel that most artists are latching on it for a quick bux.
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Where is Re:Zero?
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>>160932212
>This year's event takes place from August 11-13 at Tokyo Big Sight, the second to last Comiket before the event moves to accommodate construction to prepare for the 2020 Olympic Games. Even though the event isn't moving yet, it's worth noting that the venue's West 1 and 2 Halls are closed for renovations causing a decrease in available space for vendors. Comiket draws huge numbers twice a year, but this year's will be the event's smallest in a decade. The event is losing approximately 3,400 circles due to the space closure.
I didn't expect Olympia to kill otaku culture this early.

What's the new venue?
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>>160932212
Is fanfiction popular in Japan at all? Compared to the west, How big is it?
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>>160933718
>nips
>giving a shit about re:zero

It was popular in the west and average popularity in nip land
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>>160933161
https://exhentai.org/g/941979/425043e09c/
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>>160933268

I don't know the numbers, but its big enough to happen twice a year now.
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>>160932930
Porn. Lots of porn.
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>>160933655
Does anyone even remember any Nasuverse non-H that's not Hiroyuki or that [guaranteed replies] powerlevel one?
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Remember when haters claimed boatgirls was a fad that would only remain popular for a comiket or two?
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>>160932930
There is so many girls that there bound to be at least one girl that willl cater to your exact fetishes.
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>>160933764
Touhou's doujinshi scene is more non-H doujinshi than H-doujinshi. I think the same can be said for Kemono Friends now too.
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>>160934029
What about my touhou fetish?
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>>160934058
Are you telling me there's a lack of Touhou or something? 2 Reitasai's and fucking comiket, it still churns out the most fanworks
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>>160934058
You have Reitaisai for that. You're not one of those retards who thinks they can only like one or the other right?
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>>160933775
There were a ton of shitty Rem doujins the Comicet after that season
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>>160934001
That powerlevel one is a real joy to read even though it's nonsensical setting consistency-wise
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>>160933145
Just because there are more events doesn't mean there are more circles. I don't think many circles would just skip Comiket.
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>>160932212
these numbers are just a lie
it's better to believe thread popularity on /a/ to have an idea of what circles are watching also to make stuff for
so the best series to watch are dbs, love live, naruto, hxh, shingeki, jojos, etc
if you're watching otherwise, you and those in japan just have shit taste
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>>160934150
This is some advanced shitposting
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>>160934136
Some 100 doujins is literally nothing when you're going against 20k+ titans.
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>>160933764
i dont think anyone in the west has ever successfully sold fanfiction for money
(unless fifty shades of gray counts, since it was originally a twilight fanfic)
so it's automatically doing better in Japan
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>>160934199
Was that 90 or 89?
Because I remember it being the biggest series besides Touho and KanColle
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>>160932930
It's like 2hu:
- many characters
- most of these characters have only a basic character design and personality
- no plot, only what the game dictates

Doujin artists can fill the blanks with their own creativity. It's easier than starting an original work, because you have a template and an active community who could be interested in your work. The artists will also get the sense of contributing back to the community and interacting with it in a symbiotic way.
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>artist do some nice doujins of other series.
>Immediately move to boat because x or y stop airing or for some other reason.


I have no problem with boats but this shit piss me off.
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>>160934143
Not going to bother counting, but this is the circle list for the most recent Reitaisai.

http://s.reitaisai.com/rts14/block/

Touhou is doing damn fine.
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>>160934367
But boats decreased this comicet
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>>160934367
>artist makes really good doujins
>is stuck making boatshit for the last 3 Comikets
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If you're wondering what Kadokawa has been doing with the money get from KanColle, they built a 1:1 model of a beloved seaplane for KanColle players and had a collaboration with a big theme park named FujiQ to debut it.
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>>160934238
And Twilight was BtVS fanfiction. Also, everything written by Cassie/Cassandra Claire is her repackaged Harry Potter fanfiction.

Selling fanfiction is grand old tradition in the west. It's just that most authors go for the thinly veiled file the serial numbers off method.
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>>160934455
Behold, the might Zuiun in all its glory. May it have mercy on those who speak ill of it. ZUIUN = GOD.
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>>160934238
If by fanfic you mean using other people's characters to write an adaptation:
Wide Sargasso Sea is a fanfic of Jane Eyre. Dean Koontz Frankenstein series is fanfic of Frankenstein.
And there are so many more.
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>>160933520
>nothing wrong with nhentai
>pic related
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>>160934177
Some of what's listed in that post is pretty much /a/'s reality, and those threads are becoming more frequent without much resistance.
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>>160934559
But exhentai also downsamples their images. And you have to go through stupid shit to get the original. Like playing their shitty game just to get a zip.
Don't forget their fucking awful unreliable P2P "CDN".
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>>160932906
>KanColle vs. Touhou
KanColle is newer, but I expect some decline eventually. If this happens, it will lose out to KemoFure (pic related).
>im@s vs. LL
Im@s is a much bigger franchise.
>sword boys vs. Fate
Different audiences.
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>>160933393
>>160934559
exhentai is unaccessible from mobile devices and ipads
i've found that very inconvenient and just went with something else
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>>160934624
There are always torrents available...
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>>160934447
>one of the few artists dedicated to my waifu changes focus to boatsluts
I hate this so much, especially when there are so few of them out there.
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>>160934653
Dumb phoneposter
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How big is your collection friends?
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>>160934659
According to my local laws this would be literally a crime, because you distribute porn to unknown people who are potentially minors.
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>>160934624
dude, literally just buy the cheapest hath perk and you can set HD images for online viewing
anons sometimes give out haths for free if you lurked /h/'s sadpanda threads
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>>160934384
Are there any official numbers for past events? I'm getting just shy of 3400 circles here.
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>>160934716
not counting h animu
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>>160934559
that doesn't say much
everything has various uploads of different quality
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>>160934716
I'm not yet autistic enough to hoard it. I will maybe once I get a job.
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>>160934716
>>160934842
How sad are your parents?
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>>160934878
Not him, but..
I don't think they'd care, or know.
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>>160934878
Why should they care?
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>>160934716
0gb
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>japan overall have 0/10 shit tier taste and 75% of their market is geared towards the same fucking 5-6 series every year

Fuck Ja-

>Boku no Hero Academia 107

might be ok
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>>160934989
>90/107 will be about Bakugou assblasting sexventure
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>>160934989
>tells others off for shit taste
>likes Boku no Naruto Academia
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>>160935030
Yeah probably, and the people that draw really, really shit quality tsuyu stuff.
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>>160932335

#1 - Kemono friends is too young
#2 - the fanbase is focused on twitter/pixiv art and nico memes (not porn)

I would say its an equivalent of kamen rider, one piece or doraemon, insanely popular, but not for porn, hence no doujins on comiket.
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>>160935061
It has good girls that also satisfy a handful of fetishes by nature, what do you want from me. I didn't say it was a well written and developed 10/10 series.
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>>160935087
It's not like comiket is just for doujins though, touhou gets a ton of stuff like music, games and asorted material despite having reitaisai.
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>>160933363
A good bunch migrated to Fate
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>>160932480
>KanColle 2329 waifufag
>Touhou Project 1320 waifufag
>The IDOLM@STER 1299 waifufag
>Touken Ranbu 1244 fujoshi
>Fate series 1129 fujoshi/waifufag
>Love Live 576 waifufag
>Yuri!!! on Ice 552 fujoshi
>Girls und Panzer 420 waifufag
>Granblue Fantasy 380 waifufag
>Haikyu!! 354 fujoshi
>Osomatsu-san 318 fujoshi
>Vocaloid 306 waifufag
>Tiger & Bunny 268 fujoshi
>Kuroko no Basuke 267 fujoshi
>Attack on Titan 266 fujoshi
>Ensemble Stars 241 fujoshi
>Yowamushi Pedal 219 fujoshi
>World Trigger 158 fujoshi
>Hetalia 147 fujoshi
>Kekkai Sensen 122 fujoshi
>Boku Hero Academia 107 fujoshi
What a time to live in, I'm glad I don't give a shit about these series and I'm staying pretty safe with the rare finds of the more niche circles doing the series I actually like.
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>>160934653
>exhentai is unaccessible from mobile devices and ipads
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>>160934653
Maybe you should learn how to use your fucking device then phoneposter. I can get on ex from fucking android chrome, both emulated and on-device.
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>>160932212
>More Victim Girls boatsluts
This timeline is just fine.
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>>160935158
Oh shit. I almost forgot that the new Touhou game is being released this Comiket and I think Mine and/or Tatsuki himself (I forget which) has their own booth too.
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>>160935330
It's brown cirno season, can't wait.
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>>160934559
Eh, I only go to nhentai to see a quick sample of the doujin since it's faster to navigate, before downloading it on exhentai.
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>>160932212
THE BNHA LINE IS RED
NOT EVEN PURPLE
IS'T FUCKING RED

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>160933764
I made some spreadsheets and statistics while bored as fuck when I was heading to a smaller event, for the top 5 pairings the percentage spread of comics/artbooks, fanfics and other (such as handmade keychains) were:
1st: 84%/15%/1%
2nd: 79%/19%/2%
3rd: 82%/18%/0%
4th: 63%/25%/12%
5th: 92%/4%/4%
1-4 were BL, 5 was the only straight pairing and it had less porn than the others (11% compared to 36-64%).
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How many Nier doujins got made? Hope there's at least a few good ones.
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>>160935403
You are getting 100 variations of Deku and Bakugou fucking and you're gonna like it.
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>>160934284
I'd argue that Touhou is basically nothing like that, but then I imagine you've only read doujins of it and listened to Bad Apple!! so I'm not even going to bother.
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>>160935388

sure you do
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>>160935403
>Red
Fujoshit
>Blue
otakushit
>Puprple
Both?
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What's the one doujinshi you are looking forward to the most?
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>>160934455
Noice.
Touken ranbu does things like that too, I think it's really nice.
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>>160935525
The new Fatalpulse work of course.
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>>160935087
i'm not even sure nips really get it
i've seen moon netizens wondering what brought it on without having much of a clue
it just became a thing without actually showing fan popularity in any normal noticeable ways
those confused don't seem convinced to take interest either
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>>160935525
pinvise doing something?
If yes then that
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>>160933764
What are web novels?
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>>160934284
Touhou shares a lot more in common with Kemono Friends than Kancolle.
Both have many cute female characters with simple, but effective personalities and a fascinating lore and backstory that supplementary works build upon.

Also both allow fan projects, unlike Cancercolle.

Cancercolle is wholly artificial while Kemono Friends and Touhou are more genuine and organic in the development and cultivations of their fanbases. Though the way either are able to interact with their bases and develop their settings are completely different.
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>>160935525
The ones with Ahegao, Nakadashi, mating press and :>=
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>>160935621
>Also both allow fan projects, unlike Cancercolle.
Did DMM crack down on doujin projects?
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>>160935525
I'm hoping Fushoku releases a fourth Kino no Tabi doujinshi that he won't mention anything about because that faggot likes to stay radio silent about everything until someone posts a screenshot of the cover a month after Comiket ends.

Also lewd female Kaban doujinshi. Mainly pic related.
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>>160935655
>:>=
???
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>>160935320
I thought this comiket is original characters for asanagi?
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>>160935744
Look it up on one of the boorus, you dummy.
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>>160935729
Kadokawa won't allow fangames
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>>160935320
Please no, we don't need another boatslut doujin from Asanagi.
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>>160935816
Of Kancolle, or anything?
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>>160935621
This pretty much. Kancolle lore is all speculation whereas Touhou stuff is more often than not concrete stuff. There's shittons of SFW stuff that tackles some of the themes even further because they are fun to write about. If Touhou is a template then it's a damn good one, it's as good as if not better than a Lovecraftian universe and every new game expands on already existing concepts and adds something new to the table.
It's wacky, the characters are quirky and fun, and the stories are always interesting and unique, and it's all done by a drunk asshole who's co-writing for like 5 different manga at once.
The fact that something as good as Touhou even exists is a fucking miracle. It's no wonder it's still popular so many years later and has its own conventions.
Don't dismiss it simply because you don't like it.
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>>160935817
>we dont need
you know you're still gonna fap to it 3 times at least anyways

>>160935864
Nope. Welcome to corporate jews.
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>>160935907
I never said I don't like it or that it's superficial. I just wanted to provide a better explanation than hurrr it's popular because porn.
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>>160935968
Sorry, I meant to quote >>160934284 afterwards but I forgot.
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>>160935580
Well you also have all the KF content going to its own events. Japariket 4 is soon.
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>>160935956
>nazi
??????
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>>160935580
>it just became a thing without actually showing fan popularity in any normal noticeable ways
People emptied the stores when they first started pumping products out and bought at least a million copies of the OP single. My Twitter feed is still full of Kemono Friends fanart (and Touhou fanart and MMD porn). Shit's still insanely popular man. The first episode broke Gochiusa's record of having the most views by a couple hundred thousand so far and it hasn't even been a year yet, while Gochiusa's first episode has been on NND for four years or so now I think.
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>>160936183
>MMD porn
show the way into this wonderful world of yours, anon-kun
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>>160932212
>World Trigger still not dead
Oh wow. I hope Ashihara returns soon.

Also, does anyone have the table stats on C90 and C91?
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>>160932579
you're surprised at kancolle going strong when fucking HETALIA is still on the list? That shit's approaching 10 years old at this point
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>>160936274
Be warned, anon. You don't know the hole you have unveiled.
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/tamamochang
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/modesto
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/古い
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/takaha4
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/esddp
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/Flim13
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/HK5dz3
www.nicovideo.jp/tag/JAX兄貴
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/arrowhead
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/osuimono
http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/blendy13
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>>160932245
> They also expect an increase in My Hero Academia thanks to the character Himiko Toga
I don't keep up with the manga or anime threads, is she really that popular?
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>>160936520
Also forgot http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/つんでれ伯爵, https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=64168117 and http://ecchi.iwara.tv/users/けだものフレンズ

I have more links but I think that's a good enough start for now.
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>>160934001
I miss Archerko.
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>>160935499
>Butt mad 2hu fan
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Friendly reminder that people who argue whether Touhou or KanColle are better aren't fans of either series, they're just outsiders who like to falseflag so that people start shitting on each other's stuff as if it's inconceivable to like both.
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>>160933588
I'm honestly surprised it's charting and has more than BNHA, feels good, but weird at the same time, especially considering the fact the author is effectively dead atm
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>>160936659

Eh... she's fairly popular and has built up a decent fanbase. She's probably one of the more standout females in the cast. I don't think she's more popular than frog girl or gravity girl tho.
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>>160936520
That fucking clipping.
What happened to that pixiv like site where you could view 3D models?
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>>160937002
Bold statement there. It's completely fine to defend something from an ill-conceived accusation like >>160934284.
If anything, it's the exact opposite of your statement. It's actually false-flaggers like him that try to shit on other series because they have their own "superior" preferences that won't allow room for discussion.
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>>160937017
there's a lot of good looking boys
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>>160936183
see that's not what they expect
it's like love live, it "sold" but didn't have a buildup of support compared to something like cg
cg alone has like double the fan activity of love live and is backed by netizens(the per season bd buying kind)
when you look at moonlanders involved with love live, their other interests are just things like naruto/bleach - and then don't spend on anything else
kf looks to have grabbed its own unrelated crowd
not saying there aren't those of the "season bd kind" of netizens that take interest, but it's rare
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>>160936686
>I'm already following these people
I'm just too far down this hole
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>>160932212
>>160932245

Only Girls & Pansu and Fate gained this Comiket. Interesting. Fate doubled though. Maybe they can fight Kancolle next year.
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>>160932787
2hu has it's own event.
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>>160937320
The Love Live devs built up their fanbase for years before the first anime, though.
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>>160937966
> Build up fanbase for years focusing on specific characters, etc.
> Dump those characters completely and create an entirely new cast that they had to rebuilt interest for/etc.
I'd understand if they created Aqours while still maintaining μ's, but dropping μ's completely seemed like a strange decision.
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>>160932245
>: Yuri!!! on Ice!, Haikyu!!, Mr. Osomatsu, Vocaloid, Tiger & Bunny, Kuroko's Basketball, Attack on Titan, Hetalia, Blood Blockade Battlefront, and My Hero Academia.
DELETE THIS
>>160932329
granblue has always gotten a ton of doujins
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>>160937966
the buildup was meant for the netizens
there's little overlap, so love live was on its own
cg can overlap with og, 2hu, vocaloid, kancolle, granblue, aikatsu, etc
cgfags can be listening to dead artists involved with old chinese cartoons that the list of overlap watched, while it's questionable if love live fans will continue listening to the series' music
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>>160938154
One of those series doesn't seem to belong.
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>>160936520
>F-ERO
My fucking sides
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>>160937320
>>160938309
> cg
Cinderella Girls? Code Geass?
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>>160935621
>Touhou
>fascinating lore and backstory
So this is what secondaries believe?
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>>160937291
I love world trigger as much as the next guy, but character design is one of its worst traits. And more importantly, why is there so little of its doujins available online.
This is heresy
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>>160938442
Could ask you the same question.
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>>160938372
cgfags can watch cg and cg sure
it's better to say
>the specific netizens overlap
though, cg can be just one of their interests
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>>160938553
What the fuck are you smoking buddy? You're incoherent.
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>>160933764
Japanese fans write a ton of fanfic. You can look on Pixiv for a taste of how much is out there. Many of these fanfic writers also participate in doujin circles.

I read a lot of Japanese fanfic, and for the series I like, the quality is generally better than the ones in English. English fanfic writers seem to have a hard time writing dialogue that actually sounds like something the characters would say, probably due to the language barrier. The often incorrect use of Japanese words in English-language stories doesn't help things any.
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>>160938635
CG has spinkicks and cute girls, nothing confusing about it.
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>that emotion when doujin output for my fandoms has slowed down to nothing, even though anthologies came out as recently as last year
Being a fan of mainly older series is suffering.
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>>160933129
The correlation between doujin count and sales/ratings have never been true retard or else we would be seeing a lot of Your Name doujins.
>>160937017
Its an older series and circles tend to remain loyal regardless of the status of the series (see Hetalia, Tiger and Bunny)
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>the sales and the ratings are low
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>>160939211
>or else we would be seeing a lot of Your Name doujins
don't remind me anon, I'm still frustrated I can't rub one out to Mitsuha
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>>160938442
Stop looking at porn
Touhou's lore and characters shines best on its Non-H
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>>160939302
>rub one out to Mitsuha

You better not, mate. Mitsuha is Taki-only. You best only be reading vanilla Your Name doujins only, too. Anything else does not exist.
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>>160935061
>Naruto
People still can't get better bait can they?
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>>160939421
https://exhentai.org/g/836061/0c64cf7123/
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>>160935087
>#1 - Kemono friends is too young
Yuri On Ice
>#2 - the fanbase is focused on twitter/pixiv art and nico memes (not porn)
That's virtually everything listed. Its not just about porn.
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>>160939421
Not only secondary but also newfag who doesn't know what the term means.
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>>160939677
Anon was wrong
KF had its own event. A LOT of events>>160932928
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>unironically posting Asatsuki Dou
kill yourself mate, the light hearted SoL/yuri non-H doujins are the BEST

>>160939426
If I had the skills I'd draw one where Mitsuha gets roofie'd and then Taki wakes up in her body in the middle of getting his (her?) cervix pounded. When he passes out from erotic asphyxiation, they switch and now it's Mitsuha's turn to get ahegao'd
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>>160939824
Entire Touhou lore is canonically dark and gritty. Just like Pokemon
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>>160939824
MORINOHON VANILLAFAG DETECTED.
Good taste if so
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>>160932212
C92 is this weekend. Prepare a thread.
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>>160940196
Is that Chino? Also C92 starts tomorrow.
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>>160940284
Yes. and yes, I know.
Tomorrow = Friday = Weekend
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>>160940012
>Entire Touhou lore is canonically dark and gritty.
Touhou lore isn't grimdark you secondary pizza shit.
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>>160940536
Still mad Reimu didn't kill Kosuzu.
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>>160940012
>that pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpo4kAdMPfY
it's a good song
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>>160940536
It is when you're a faceless villager.
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>>160940671
>great harvests
>cute, weird girls visiting the village from wherever everyday
>that cute waitress with the red hair and cape down the road that's a total recluse and never talks to anyone
>great crops
>that cute silver-haired teacher that works at the school teaching all the young kids of the village
>did I mention crops because the crops are fucking wonderful
If you're not from the Human Village and you're a powerless fuck, you're youkai food unless you somehow manage to make it to the village. Youkai are strictly forbidden from harming the people of the Human Village and in return they are given faith. The Human Village provides faith and in return are protected from foul weather and natural disasters that would otherwise greatly harm or even destroy the village.
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>>160940536
Yuyuko is a suicide girl
Marisa was outcasted by her family
Sakuya was a vampire hunter turned slave by Remilia
Flandre was locked up
Byakuren was sealed after trying to make peace with youkai and humans
Koishii and Satori were shunned upon for their cursed gift. Koishii sealed her third eye to escape in but in turn became completely apathetic and no one can remember her

And then the hundreds or thousands of youkai who canonically eats villagers
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>>160940881
>Sakuya was a vampire hunter turned slave by Remilia
This is fanon.
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>>160940881
Yuyuko is now a well-respected princess ruling over the land of ghosts and spirits.
Marisa left her family and their business behind of her own volition due to problems with her dad.
The stuff about Sakuya is speculation, may as well be fanon.
Flandre isn't locked up now so it's daijoubu.
Byakuren's teaching people the joys of Buddhism from her flying ship-temple now so it's daijoubu.
Koishii and Satori are still the royalty of old Hell and Satori's a bad sister for letting her imouto mutilate herself but things are peaceful in old Hell and Satori isn't really harming anyone so it's daijoubu.

Rumia doesn't really eat people so much as she NEETs it up in Gensokyo and lazily drifts around in the air all day. Mystia formed a band with Kyouko and plays rock music that they write together for other youkai at night. The youkai of Gensokyo don't target the people of the Human Village because Reimu will literally murder them as hard as she did the Fortune Teller as soon as she finds out. Really, the ones you have to worry about are the fairies who'll play pranks on you (but you can easily overpower them and bully the HECK out of them anyway).

Seija may or may not be dead now depending on how you think ISC ended. She's somewhere in Gensokyo and everyone hates her but she prefers it that way so that too is daijoubu.
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>>160941111
That justifies nothing.
Their pasts shows that Gensokyo is only a Utopia until you started questioning it

Just because the fans refuse to discuss it doesn't mean it does not exist
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>>160941254
You really need to read Forbidden Scrollery.
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>>160941254
Gensokyo is really the only real place they can exist. It's far from a utopia and its existence is actually very fragile, but it's the only home they have. The outside world is losing faith in the supernatural and with scientific progress on the neverending march and logic and reasoning kicking spiritual belief and superstition to the curb, those same supernatural beings can do nothing but spirit themselves away to Gensokyo or other similar realms. That being said, despite its fragile nature, its state is kept well under control by the Hakurei shrine maiden and those that live there to ensure it will still be around for the next thousand years.

No one ever said Gensokyo was a utopia. It's a chaotic place and everyone's an alcoholic country hick too ignorant and apathetic to worry about scientific advancement.
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I wonder if LL would have more if it didn’t had dedicated doujin events.
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>>160940881
>Byakuren was sealed after trying to make peace with youkai and humans
>he actually believes byakushit dindu nuffins
don't get me wrong, i love byakumom but canonically she's not only allied with youkai over humans, but she's an absolutely terrible person
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>>160932212
>>160932245
>Granblue that high
All of them are shit except that one magisa doujin
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>>160941820
Cag doujins are pretty good.
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>>160941820
>forgetting Asanagi's Cagliostro doujin
oh god I beat my dick raw for 3 days straight
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>>160939421
>>160938442
The funny thing is, I was a Touhou primary years ago, all I cared about was playing the games and of course fapping to the porn on the side, but I never had any interest in the non-H content. I lost interest in the games around Ten Desires and shortly stopped caring about Touhou at all (even the porn) unless it's new Mystia art.

On the other hand I played Kancolle around 2013-2015 and yet I still follow it and buy non-H doujins as well as H, so go figure.
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>>160942238
>I was a Touhou primary years ago
>I never had any interest in the non-H content
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>>160942238
Eeww
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>>160942295
See >>160939751
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>>160941551
Byakuren would rather save youkai than exterminate them, and likewise would avoid harming humans since to her, they shouldn't be treated differently.
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>>160935087
Kemono Friends has got several own events separately. It's true though most fans don't like porn of the friends.
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>everyone's an alcoholic country hick too ignorant and apathetic to worry about scientific advancement
The Kappa exists
So was the Nuclear reactor
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I hope Gochiusa gets enough doujin. I know it's fairly popular.
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>>160943659
Everyone referring to the humans, I mean. The Kochiya schemes fail horribly and caused several incidents so they should fucking keep their hands to themselves and stay up on their mountain.

The river kappa dedicate all of their development toward cucumber harvesting and to find new ways to fuck with people. The mountain kappa do their own thing. They like beating (off) on each other. Also despite how Nitori looked in the first game she appeared in, kappa are basically Gensokyo's equivalent of dorfs but with a collective cucumber addiction instead of a collective alcohol addiction.
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>>160932212
When will touhou stop reclining?
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>>160943811
>dorfs but with a collective cucumber addiction
Hrmmm....
Hrmm...
Hrm...
Bruh, I just got enlightened
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Why is Tiger and Bunny on there still but Free is gone? Wasn't there a Free movie this year?
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>>160933559
I'm disappointed.
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>>160944399
I'm surprised at T&B's popularity too.
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>>160932212
I'm surprised granblue isn't purple. Theres a huge fujo base for that one
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>>160932480
>GuP
>Kekkai Sensen
Surprised by this
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>>160944847
All of Kekkai Sensen is gay shit though.
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>>160944444
What a waste.
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>>160945385
Except for the ones where they keep giving Leo tits and a vagina, but it's still female circles writing them.
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>>160944291
> This is getting a new season
Didn't the first one flop?
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>>160944731
>>160944399
>underestimate the allure of Barnaby/Kotetsu
One of the few homo couples that is loved by everyone. Even had hentai doujinka doing doujin for this series at one point.
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>>160932480
>Tiger & Bunny 268
How is this still popular with fujos, I don't get it.
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>>160933559
>>160944444
I think it's the eleven billion doujin events that may be muted the numbers somewhat. It doesn't seem to slow down even though it's nearly 8 months since the show ended.
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>>160947010
>a legitmately great show with great characters
>see >>160946944

I still hope for a S2 6 years later. ;_;
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>>160932480
>no kememe furriends
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>>160947140
It has 90 circles this year and is projected to have 400 next year. Let's not mention the 10 or more doujin events it has in succession. It's big, alright.
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>>160932480
No wonder why Ufo cucked Aposhit for TouRanbu.
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>>160947140
Has it's own events. Japariket 4 soon.
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>>160932212
Is it all porn/erotica or does it have some well written fanfiction and the like?
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>>160947607
>well written
>fanfiction
Pick one.
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>>160947607
70% is non-h
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GuP went from big enough to huge just because of one movie.
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>>160947803
GuP blew up in the same way Kemono Friends did, but on a tinier scale.
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>>160934624
What the fuck are you talking about? Viewing and downloading images in original size is free.
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>>160947803
>one movie
Dude it's getting an entire season's worth of runtime of OVAs next.
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>>160948122
I still haven't watched the original season's OVAs. Maybe I should get around to that.
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>>160933764
Aren't doujins literally just fanfiction?
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I really want 2hu to be #1 again.
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>>160934653
retard.
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>>160948273
Not yet, those are probably digital releases/prereleases.
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>>160932212
>Fifth place is the entire Nasuverse, or Fate franchise
And yet there's so few actually decent fate doujins, maybe apocrypha and grand order will get some decent writers interested
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>>160935621
But you can always fine KanColle lore material in history textbooks.
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>>160932212
>a university studies Comiket trends
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GuP is that popular?
Never really noticed it
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>>160949015
If you're not into the genre of military cute girls or just the military itself, you would hardly notice.
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>>160949314
I'm actually really like GuP, but never knew it was that big, it seems like not a lot of people talk about it
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>>160949438
It's huge, it still has constant discussion on 2chan and it literally put a dying town on the map.
Their Anglerfish Festivals are big now.
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>>160947607
Yes, a lot of doujinshi include fanfics or are entirely fanfics, especially in joseimuke (female-targeted) genres.
>>160947643
Some of the Japanese ones are.
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>>160949015
Its way more popular in Japan than in the west.
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>tfw u don't know if the series u want doujins for will get more than one
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>Started playing Granblue for the doujins
My time investment is starting to pay off
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>>160934630
>sword boys vs. Fate
>Different audiences.
a lot of fate doujin is BL, has always been this way. hetero romance (geared to women) comes next.
The doujins have always aimed to women over guys, unlike the franchise ironically.
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>>160935228
Fujoshi seem to spread themselves thin.
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>>160935228
>Granblue Fantasy 380 waifufag
No? It's fujoshi/waifufag.
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>>160946559
it's backed by Big Dagashi
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>>160948218
Doujin basically means "indie" or "self-published". If you write an original work but you're selling it out of a stall at comiket instead of working with a publisher, it's still a doujin.
Things other than manga can be doujins as well. There are a lot of doujin videogames, such as the original Cave Story and La-Mulana.
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>>160951959
Clearly I meant non-H and the porn, why would I mention music and video games on /a/?.
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Well there are some people who think doujin literally just means "h manga"
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>>160947140
Will furrfags ever recover?
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>>160932212
Whatever happened to the quality of the Touhou H-doujins? It feels like I haven't seen any particularly good ones in years, maybe the good ones just doesn't get scanned. But even if there is a good number of them, very few of them are of note.
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>>160932212
>Attack on Titan that low
Wasn't it really huge with fujos? What happened to that?
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>>160932480
>Hetalia
when will it die for good
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>>160946944
Several of them, in fact. I recall one porn dude who suddenly started doing cute shipperfags drawings of them after it finished airing. Was pretty big on pixiv.
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>>160954012
Hetalia is like boatsluts: many characters, only basic traits, no real plot. Any retard can do doujins of that.
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>>160935525
Titmonster(Fate)
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>>160954074
just coming in the thread to saw this pic, from the thumbnail, makes it looks like she's on her back with her legs up
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Day 0 pictures from free workers in C92.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5265228106?see_lz=1
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>>160932480
I don't get the appeal of touhou why do people like to so much
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>>160954202
What happened with Break Blade?
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>>160954318
It was created by an alcoholic savant.
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>liking beer is now alcoholic
You know that actual alcoholics consume wine or hard liquor, right?
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>>160954640
Actual alcoholics consume alcoholic beverages, one being beer in excess.
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>>160954323
10th anniversary, who knows will there be anything new other than this poster.
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>>160934653
I can access panda using firefox just fine anon.
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>>160934716
This is after i cleared up ~60 gigs of doujinshis because i was running out of space,there was a period when i was autisticaly hoarding everything porn related i have stopped now because no HDD space.
Now i hoard info in text files only.like 500 MB of .txt.
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>>160934653
Even /g/ cant help your soul at his point.
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>>160932212
>Kantai 2320
>Touhou 1320
I have ben out of the loop. How did it havven?
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>>160956244
2hu circles have been moving to Reitaisai for a while now
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>>160956244
It's easier to draw for Kancolle when there isn't much canon to worry about.
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>>160932906
All the touhou circles go to Reitaisai
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Comiket is only half the equation.
What most people don't realize that the extremely big fandoms have been creating their own circles for a while now.
For example here in Osaka, there's a yearly cycle of events aimed at men and women:
http://www.akaboo.jp/
https://www.aoboo.jp/
held at Intex Osaka. There are GuP and Type-Moon exclusive events held at Kobe.
There are numerous small events going on every month just outside Tokyo too.
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>>160934721
>the law
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>>160933486
Only 10 out of those 107 circles will release het doujins the rest are fujo stuff. kill me pls
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>>160956244
2hu has gotten more self sufficient so a lot of the music and comic makers moved to the 2hu specific convention as >>160956334 pointed out. If it wasn't for that then they'd still be number one.
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>>160935525
I just want more eromanga sensei lewds as I want to translate a full-color doujin from that show.
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>>160956693
Comiket is going the way of E3. Completely irrelevant because everyone is doing their own events.
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>>160946944
the only reason it's popular because it's those turning straight guy gay kind of fetish garbage.
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>>160956703
You should be happy fujos kept the series alive
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>>160956781
You stupid or something?
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Any news leaked anyway?
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>>160934653
How does it feel being this wrong?
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>>160956764
It really is for the best that a single franchise doesn't hog all the room for a single event like Comiket.
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>>160932212
>im@s
this is pretty much all cinderella shit, right?
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>>160932212
Kantai Collection is the cancer killing anime.
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>>160951767
GF fujoshits are negligible
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>>160951706
Not true. Only Fate Zero was popular with fujoshits. Most fate stuff aimed for women are otome shit.
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>>160956827
>Barnaby or Kotetsu
>either of them straight
Anon. Did you actually watch the show and follow interviews with the writers, director and producers?
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>>160935525
EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c
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>>160949015
Are you serious? It's big.
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>>160938442
spoken like a true secondary
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>>160957053
I'd say it depends on the device or which updates he has.
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>>160940536
It actually is. However, the atmosphere of the series is lighthearted.

Reminder that Reimu canonically lets outsiders die by untold number, knows they're there, and doesn't do a single thing to help them because it's not her job. There's a lot of fucked up stuff.
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>>160935228
Trying too hard to be cool, anon. Why would you even produce something there if not a fujo/waifufag? What? You want LoGH porn? Still would be fujo, you know.
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>>160941111
Junko's son was murdered by her husband.
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I just want my Vivid Strike doujin
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>>160957267
FGO is popular with fujoshit or are you colorblind?
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>>160944399

fujo here

japanese BL fandom tends to go for whatever pairings are least canon. as an example, free! has plenty of haru/rin support in canon, so the most popular pairings in the fandom are mako/haru and sousuke/rin. "the show already gave you plenty of content, so fandom will focus on feeding those who weren't served by the canon" is the typical attitude. this attitude of "providing what canon lacks" means that the gayer the source material is on its own, the less likely it is to have a strong BL fanbase.

tldr - Free! was too gay
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>>160958380
T&B most popular pairing is Kotetsu/Barnaby which is supported in canon. YoI is even more gay with 552 circles and most are of the canon gay pair Victor/Yuuri.
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what makes boatslut so different from others?
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>>160958656
Its fascinating setting, lore, music and vast array of characters with interesting personalities and the various memes and fanworks Japan pumps out involving the franchise.
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>>160932579
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>>160959200
>sea ships in space
Fucking retarded.
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>>160959620
You just don't get it
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>>160958625
Hell, Kotetsu/Barnaby is pretty much the only pairing there. Everything else is barely a blip.
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>>160958656
It has a lot of girls. Having a huge cast of girls works very well. This is the only reason.
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>>160936659
In the west, yes; she was even 3rd behind only Bakygou and Deku. In Japan, she's about as popular as Shiggy.
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All I care about is knowing whether Ryukishi is there. Even if When They Cry 3 (or 5, whatever) isn't released at this Comiket, he could announce the release date for episode 1 as being December.
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>>160932212
>>160932245
>99% of these will be gayshit
Why bother?
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What are the genres/categories for day 1, 2 and 3?
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>>160934653
There's an app
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>>160932480
>Kekkai Sensen
What the fuck, how?
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>>160934028
To be fair the boatsluts were bland a few years ago. But when they start making boatsluts like Kashima then it stops being bland.
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My dick is ready.
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>>160954074
Disgusting cow
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>>160932212
Is there a breakdown for how much of each property is porn? I remember seeing somewhere that, for example, 45% of im@s is porn while only around 15% of touhou is.
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>Touken Ranbu beating Fate
Picked the fuck up.
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>>160934527
Not to mention all the Ctulhu Mythos stuff. Hell, you could argue that both the NT and Quran the Old Testament fanfiction.
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Bumping solely to say:
>>160934653
Dumb phoneposter.
I didn't even read the thread.
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How to check the number of circles for each series?
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>>160934716
>>160934842
>>160955702
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>>160966866
Seriously? I'm still hesitant to waste my time on something that is essentially just pretty boys and no story.
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>>160932212
>2329
>99% is boring shit with no plot and no characterization
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>>160967718
implying I'm not picking up the doujins for the pretty boys
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>>160962923
I dunno, BL potential considering the abundance of male characters?
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>>160967665
I really should start getting into making torrents.
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>>160932906
It's the end of an era.
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>>160967718
>no story
Characters actually die. Ask in Symphogear general, which doubles as a Touken Ranbu general, they'll confirm.
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>>160966950
And the Old Testament is just a collection of a bunch of folk tales.
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>>160968192
/sgg/ is on /m/.
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>>160932212
>produce so much indie shit
>it's all porn or shitty comedies
Possibly the most creatively bankrupt industry on the planet.
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>>160966950
*are
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>>160935525
Made in Abyss
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>>160968451
A lot of professional manga and LN artists got their start with doujinshi and fanworks. Don't diss the power of (possibly erotic) fanfiction.
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