New PV is out.
I actually felt intimidated, scared and worried for the cast whenever Reinhard appeared during Kei's and most of Marie's route, so that's understandable. Reinhard is an intimidating antagonist done well, because he's actually scary unlike most other antagonist who the characters just call intimidating when they're not.
>Anime that basically portrays half of SS esque nazis as sympathetic people with a dark past as an excuse for their actions
Not really. Their past is portrayed as a reason for why they ended up that way, but it is never used as an excuse. They're still awful people, albeit somewhat sympathetic. And the actual Reich is portrayed as something pathetic lead by an incompetent wanker and a bunch of pussies.
Man everything from when Reinhard appeared onwards in Kei's route was just one endlessly escalating ride. I just kept waiting for the point where it would finally just end with them all being killed, then every time that point seems to come it just escalates even more. By the time it was over and I switched over to Marie's route I was slightly burned out on Reinhard intimidation.
I'm not sure what caricaturization you're expecting but Dies Irae is a story about killing superpowered magical vampire/witch/zombie/necromancer/kung fu/genderfluid Nazis with an anthropomorphic French Revolutionary guillotine to stop them from murdering shitzillions more people as part of a satanic ritual to resurrect the leader of the Gestapo.
>Implying it's not pic related
They turned Lisa's pantyhose into stockings.
They also dialed back Eleonore's burn scars.
Fuck it. I'm gonna dump all the new designs that the guy at the start of the thread didn't bother with. Machina looks decent.
She did actually. The lacy design and garterbelts made them so much better though.
So I've not yet done Rea's route but I'm a little confused about something relating to that.
Kei said that the museum Swastika was opened by Beatrice dying 11 years ago, but that was evidently impossible since the fight between Beatrice and Cain took place nowhere near the museum and Beatrice's soul was stuck into Cain anyway, and everything Kei says is suspect because she's a puppet of Trifa. So how did the museum swastika open? Is this answer in Rea's route?
In Kei's she fled from the bridge to the amusement park and was nuked by Eleonore, in Kasumi's she died on the bridge but was supposedly close enough to the amusement park to open the swastika (but if you try to kill Kei on the bridge Trifa scolds her for not having the sense to at least die on a Swastika, so whatever)
You can "translate" anything if you just write your own story vaguely based off the original and cut all of the difficult-to-translate use of language, it's not like EOPs can tell the difference anyway.
i hope his VN gets translated at some point
Idiots like Kei are only good for bullying.
i hope they somehow fit best girl into it
Best Einherjar theme
If they're adapting Marie's route I hope they'll also use shade and darkness for the finale.
so, is this warhammer?
I forgot half of the plot after these 2 years but I still remember enough, do we know what route they are adaptation yet? what parts you would like to see animated the most?
For me: Bey vs Schreiber, Ren chopping off his brother's head, Cain killing everyone in that party, Rusalka going through the city in that big wheel while killing a shitton of people, Mercurius' awakening and if possible
Rusalka's footjob scene in an eventual OVA
This whole scene was great.
It look really bad, even the trailer is full of QUALITY.
Official power level list :
Reinhard / Mercurius / Ren >>>> The three battalion commander / Triffa >>>>>>>>>>> Shirou > Bey > Cain > Rusalka > Kei > Spinne > Lisa
Valeria isn't on the same tier as the battalion commanders
>nothing personal trash
What is it about Japan/Japanese that makes such over the top Chuuni nonsense actually good/doable?
Can you imagine an American trying to make something like Dies Irae work, and I'm not even talking about the Nazi imagery, just the powerlevels and the theatrics of the whole thing.
One more character design.
>translation never ever
>sympathetic people with a dark past as an excuse for their actions
what the fuck are you talking about? they're legit asshole pieces of shit, you might like them because they're fun but they're the epitome of human trash.
Shirou even says that he agrees Schreiber's story is sad but he's still a fucko
the subs are gonna suck ass
>tfw Ren vs Reinhard
I literally can't wait
>Shirou that low
Nigger are you fucking retarded, he's literally Naraka. Also read KKK, he's on Hadou gods level.
That's her name, of course it's because japs can't into L
What is your jam when playing the VN? When this one starts I lose my shit
The animation looks like it's going to be average at best so I hope they don't fuck the OST and the story
I can already read ANN jew reviewers ranting whenever Nazis get mentioned or when Bey starts talking about subhumans and other racist shit.
Let's not even think about the motherfucking main character being called Zarathustra UBERMENSCH
>ANN jew reviewers ranting whenever Nazis get mentioned
All the insert songs are pretty good.
Turning into living fire isn't any worse than turning into lighting, creating a poison swamp around yourself, literally shadow jutsu+Bathory's torture tools, turning into a literal vampire, being a necromancer, wearing your boss' corpse as armor, going fast, turning everything into a sea of fire or being one punch man.
I hate ponyfag herkz as much as any other commie hating anon, but I think his editing is better than anything Sekai Project could do.
Reminder they literally sniped the project at 99% and gave it to some pinoys to translate instead. Anyone is fucking better and herkz spent 4 years working on it, and knows all the intricacies of the text/wordplay.
If you start at his first tweet here you can get an understanding of how much Sekai Project will fuck it up. There's a reason they're loathed by everyone but casual Steam weebs.
>tfw Kei is your favorite heroine because she's completely useless
That's quite hard to answer. Probably whoever gets the first hit, so Saitama
But this is one match where Saitama's joke character status is against him as much as it helps him
Yeah, he could use the joke of defeating Machina in one punch
But, being a joke character, means he's a character from an story, so Machina's Midgard Volsung Saga should be able to erase Saitama if it connects
Yeah fuck my bad, I meant Frontwing USA and the garbage TLs they'll hire for it.
it will still be shit unless they use the herkz's team's work though. They'll get the cheapest translators possible who won't have the time to understand the script like his team did.
OPM is a comedy, doesn't mean he's a joke character. Arale is a joke character, Saiki is a joke character.
Saitama is just funny. Joke characters = gag, OPM = not gag
Dies Irae characters are meta as fuck anon.
Saitama can't just one hit kill anyone, and he is up against a guy who can literally end people's story and has reality warping and a bunch of other hax not to mention he has godly regen.
>oy vey, those filthy chinks are depicting the natsocs of the era like actual human beings instead of the image we want the hordes to consume.
>SHUT. IT. DOWN.
>somehow we are the paragons of freedom
What ? I haven't read Rea's route yet but so far he killed Bey and Rusalka and hit Schreiber without any Ahnenerbe, how is he not stronger than any of the non commander ?
He managed a double kill against full retard Bey.
In fact Beriah-Wilhelm is the only one he can even harm.
Rusalka is a completly different matter. And hitting Schreiber really doesn't do anything besides triggering him
I like the Spinne memes japs have going on
I tried reading the manga but the first two chapters were insanely boring. It didnt make me care about any of the characters or what they were doing at all.
Does it get better?
Is there any serious chance of a good ending in the future of the Kei end?
They're basically the same story which is part of the whole meta-narrative about visnovs as a whole
>Rusalka= Crazy Illya
>Rea = imouto Illya
>Kasumi = Fate and UBW Sakura
>MC teams up with shady priest to save the sacrifice of the ceremony to bring out the bad guy
>Fatefags: it's not about the battle royale, it's about the characters and philosophy!
>DIfags: it's not about the battle royale, it's about the characters and philosophy!
The parallels obviously have mixups and aren't 1:1, but it's astounding how similar these two VNs are. The locations and setting are also very similar, and Ahnenerbes are basically Noble Phantasms. Beri'ah Degree or 'Creation Figment' are basically Reality Marbles
They have literally nothing to do, nothing that you mentioned makes any sense and you're talking out your ass while giving no arguments. Also in case you didn't know Assiah(world of action)/Yetzirah(world of formation)/Beriah(world of creation)/Atziluth(world of emanation) are kabbalah jewish bullshit
If anything it's more similar to Bleach than anything else, also Reality marbles are not related to noble phantasms, they're not some sort of evolution they're just different powers and if you think reality warping is something Nasu invented then you're braindead
Except that Ren wants to be normal while Shirou wants to be abnormal. If anything Ren=Shiki
Except for the fact that Saber is stuck up and stubborn while Marie's character is finding out about her own personality because she simply has none. Marie is gentle while Saber is not
Literally nothing to do, Kei acts hard but she's a mess. She's not a special snowflake nor does she do things for the thrills, Rin is special, she's playful and she likes being better than the rest. Not to mention that Kei literally murdered thousands of people for her own benefit
Where the fuck do you even get this, Lancer is a guy that likes fighting and only ever tries to kill Shirou because Kirei orders it. Wilhelm is a racist prick that has an inferiority complex and wants to change his blood to be reborn anew, Lancer doesn't regret being who he is
>>Rusalka= Crazy Illya
Any character can be anything if you put it "she is this character, except different, i'm so smart"
>>Rea = imouto Illya
Same as above, and they don't even have the same personality.
If we go by the simple fact that they're both maddened warriors then yeah but Cain has a whole arc while berserker is just crazy during the entire VN with some miliseconds of thought.
. Reinhard wants to destroy everything, he represents Asura. Gilgamesh is just poorly written Izaya
Since when is Archer god?
"They're priests, they're the same guy!" Trifa is a hypocrite coward murderer that thinks himself righteous and hates himself so much he changed his body, Kotomine knows full well he's evil and he enjoys being so.
>>Kasumi = Fate and UBW Sakura
So you didn't read her route or sakurai's when she saves everyone right?
>>MC teams up with shady priest to save the sacrifice of the ceremony to bring out the bad guy
Except that literally never happens in Fate, also stopping the big bad from appearing is just a cliche in stories. Even Harry potter has it.
Let's be fair.
Wilhelm and Lancer are both Blood Knights who love fighting.
>while berserker is just crazy during the entire VN with some miliseconds of thought.
Fuck you and read the VN
>Gilgamesh is just poorly written Izaya
Gilgamesh predates Izaya by a lot
Also that guy missed the most obvious stuff like Ahnenerbe= Noble Phantasm or Beatrice being literally Nazi!Saber
I'll let you know that every proper French household ought to own a tiny family guillotine to cut saucisson when you're inviting friends.
>Except that literally never happens in Fate
>Wilhelm and Lancer are both Blood Knights who love fighting.
I guess they're ripping off Goku!
>Fuck you and read the VN
He has just a few seconds of lucidness which all come down to Illya for one reason or another or that time when he kills Archer.
Cain is a bizarre thing made of corpses that is only a controled puppet when restrained by someone else, otherwise it just doesn't give a shit unless Trifa is passing by or when it wants to consume the next wielder.
>Gilgamesh predates Izaya by a lot
Nasuverse Gilgamesh has nothing to do with his myth and the gil from prototype has nothing to do with him. The whole chunni shtick is Gilgamesh has is just a poorly written Izaya because unlike Narita Nasu justifies his actions while Narita makes everyone know that Izaya is just a fucko.
>Ahnenerbe= Noble Phantasm
So they're literally Zanpakuto! wtf why do these chunni VNs keep ripping off bleach? i hate vn now!
Other than her looks Beatrice is literally nothing like Saber, her entire thing is being playful and cheery in comparison to Eleonor's stoic bs.
Keep trying to compare them but they're just different stories that have some chuuni ground in common just like literally every other chuuni vn. Fate is just Nasu rehashing half the stuff from tsukihime and knk while making it more generic fightan anyways.
So you've never read the VN? Kotomine fights Shirou and tries to stop him from destroying the grail. Trifa on the other hand doesn't want Reinhard to come into the world, just like Ren.
It's literally the complete opposite, retard.
I really want to know how Sui Ishida got away with ripping off Schreiber so blatantly
>MC teams up with shady priest to save the sacrifice of the ceremony to bring out the bad guy
You said this doesn't happen in FSN. It does, in the scene pictured right there. Stop moving the goalposts.
>DI has a character named Shirou
>The MC even likened him to swords
It's a shameless ripoff.
Dies Irae it's a more retarded version of Fate anyways.
Pretty sure she said it during that scene.
>Where the fuck do you even get this, Lancer is a guy that likes fighting and only ever tries to kill Shirou because Kirei orders it. Wilhelm is a racist prick that has an inferiority complex and wants to change his blood to be reborn anew, Lancer doesn't regret being who he is
They have a similar personality, are very unlucky and die in a very embarrassing way in most route.
Also don't reply to pasta.
The credits song is so fucking chill. Like breathing in fresh air after a long time.
Hope they use it for the anime's ending, though Reinhard/Mercurius duet for the regular ED sounds amazing.
It's established in Kasumi's route that all human souls start degrading by themselves after about a century, regardless of their owner's power and quantity of consumed souls; it's what's called soul apoptosis, if I'm not mistaken. Some people, such as Rusalka, can buy another century's worth of time by distancing themselves as much as possible from their humanity, but the apoptosis itself is inescapable.
Since it's basically impossible to kill Reinhard without using Marie, probably not. At best they delay things more actively than in Kasumi's end where they just ignored the problem.
All of Ren's chants are the best、IMO. You can't argue against it. They're just badass and stopping time is a cool as fuck power.
Second to those is probably Machina's.
The VN starts off better than most VNs. The common route has a pretty strong 'mystery' atmosphere and pulls you in from the start. Like, the game starts off with you suddenly dreaming that you're getting executed by a guillotine and a bunch of nazis hunting you calling you "Zarathustra" and explains none of it. It's pretty cool.
The german text is usually something referenced from a play or some shit. In Ren's case, i think all of is chants are pretty much quotes straight out of Faust. The japanese text is a kind of loose translation of it.
Nah. He completely denied Shirou's entire existence as an individual by telling him how he is connected to Ren. Shirou's entire thing is wanting to break out of the script, to escape the foreknowledge that's been haunting him ever since his accident, but Mercuris denied that very notion in and itself and made him understand that him trying to tear up the script is the script in and itself and all he did, does, and ever will do isn't a free choice he makes as an individual but simply something Ren's existence forces onto him while only giving him an illusion of choice. The realization of it completely breaks Shirou mentally.
No. Kei's Route is a straight up dead end and will inevitably be reset since the circumstances make it impossible for Mercurius to accept his own death. The only route where all the conditions for that are met is Rea's, every other outcome will eventually be annulled as Mercurius will always crave to encounter Marie one last time for the first time on his deathbed, climbing onto the throne and completely overpowering whatever other hadou is currently in place through his paradox
He's literally just singing the fucking church chant anon. How is that cool? he needs to have his own chuuni chant otherwise it doesn't count
Ren doesn't give a shit about his classmates and Kei doesn't so much enjoy school life as she just longs for a normal life that isn't full of death and the occult.
At least pay attention, anon.
Which Heavens would you like to live in /a/? Mine would be the original before the Throne with space opera.
Since Kasumi's kid dies in Kei's route Reinhard and co are basically stranded and can't fully materialize, but then Ren's soul goes kaput after a century or so and Cagliostro resets the world again so it all ends up being moot.
It's about wacky superpowered magical literal Nazis running a satanic death ritual to sacrifice all of Tokyo to resurrect the commander of the Gestapo who is also Satan, so the MC goes around killing the Nazis with an antique guillotine from the French Revolution which is also a little girl, but that's also part of the plan which was designed by God who is friends with Satan, and also I think at one point the MC draws on the power of the souls of the six million Jews murdered in the Holocaust to win.
>Verweile doch du bist so schön. Das Ewig-Weibliche Zieht uns hinan.
Based on the picture: I came up with these meaning.
Beautiful moment! Do not pass away. The eternal feminine draws us on high.
A beautiful moment will never pass away. The eternal woman/female will draw us on high.
He killed Bey as humans and kicked his ass again in marie route after he gain Rusalka Holy Relic, Bey was raping Kei in her route during their battle and Shirou just got his Holy Relic and he barely know how to use it at time, it took Ren about two week to achieve his braih while freaking shirou did it in like 3 days
>DI ain't deep, don't let anyone sell you that nonsense.
It's not as deep as some people make it out to be, but by anime standards it's quite deep. At least moreso than most shows this decade.
Her ending felt like you hit a bad end.
Serve her right
Between dies irae and muramasa, which one is more difficult to read in japanese?
>they turned the Holy Grail into "Divine Vessel"
>they make every japanese teenager say Ahnenerbe instead of a normale "holy relic" even though only the Nazis use it and only a handful of times
>they changed a lot of perfectly normal japanese terms into the hebrew equivalent despite the fact that they never get explained and as a result they have to modify lines switching between the hebrew term and the actual meaning
>they made every mention of actual divinity into "demigod"
I thought DI translators were supposed to be good
Muramasa is insane, it's one of the hardest visual novels I've read.
If you read and finished dies irae you can probably handle muramasa, just don't expect it to be easy.
>hurr duuuuuuuuuuuufrrrrrrrrrr. title drops are bad. watch me complain becaue I'm a retard following retarded memes. I'm so ebin memelord llmmmaooooooo
Kill yourself and your cancerous meme. I never got and never will get this shitty meme about complaining when any kind of title drop happens
Is the VN worth it?
Am I going to get bored by the MC?
Note that I can't stand Yuuji from Grisaia and dropped it after the few scenes.
Yes. Clannad is probably one of the best and even it's first season was pretty lacking. I would say S;G, but I haven't read the novel and I've seen plenty of vehement opinions against the anime.
Do you not know what Nietzsche's book with that title is about?
Even if you don't plan on reading it yourself, usually people have some basic knowledge on that stuff be it from pop culture or conjecture.
Every single character in the VN is both an amalgam of three different personal characters/literary works ontop of having a counterpart in each of the three core stories that are fighting to define reality (The Ring Cycle, Faust, and the Odyssey).
For Rusalka her own worlds are The Opera Rusalka (as the Siren/Witch/Nymph who wanted love but was betrayed.), The Opera Anna Bolena (as the "star that has already set", the "sacrifice".), and The Opera Maria Stuarda (persecuted as a witch, executed by the hand that she had hoped would save her.). In the core worlds she takes the place of a Rheinmaiden and water spirit like Rusalka in the Ring Cycles, in Faust she is a victim taking a Faustian bargain, obtaining witchcraft and joining the LDO yet doomed to ultimately be sacrificed, and in Ren's Odyssey she is one possible solution for his Penelope.
A pic from the artbook. No scans sadly.
Marie route for the anime is a good choice since onle Rea's route is a bigger redpill. Too bad I won't get to see Beatrice in action but Marie is good too
Who else was just waiting for Reinhard or his commanders to kill all the main characters from the moment he showed up in her route? It just didn't feel like there was any logical way they could make it out alive and it was heading toward a bad end even worse than Kasumi's.