Fate/Apocrypha 6

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>>160833816
thanks /fgog/

Jack is a cruel Servant.

>>160834001
You're welcome

>>160834016
I'm his mommy in FGO too. She's cute towards mommy.

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>>160833816
JACK IS CUTE

Did UTW already give up on this show?

>>160834053
But she is a Serial killer…

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>>160834016
She's young, has no real morality, which is why a good master must tell her right from wrong when possible. An evil master however will use her lack of empathy for their own advantage.

Basically, innocence can be a double sided blade.

>>160834109
they're putting extra work this episode because it's too good

>>160834109
Maybe they just don't care that much.

>>160834193
I think they care, this episode introduced fresh new Camelot-related character.

>>160834267
are they Seibahfags?

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I wanted to see Siegfried and Sieg more.
Higashide……

>>160834109
The subber seems to like mode red and was sad that she didn't appear in the last two episodes so I thought they would be extra motivated.

>>160834309
>The subber seems to like mode red
Exactly what made me sub this ep. Also Jack.

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Ok I'm leaving, try to keep this thread alive or something for people to see.

>>160833816
>tfw you're the best Assassin in the game

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>It works
Arigato anon

>>160834517
That's Shiki tho.

>>160834699
By the way for retarded people. You must put the RAW along with the ASS file in the same folder both with the same name and open the video with MPHC or VLC.

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>>160834131
I want to take all of them home.

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would you protect this smile

>got banned on /v/ for posting Astolfo's nipple
Mods on /v/ are retarded

Thanks anon. Aside from a few minor errors it was great.

>>160834109
No some people are busy.

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Saiba...

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Seibah can freaking wreck people when she feels like it.

>>160833816
You're a prince, anon-kun.

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Frank is a good waifu

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And to think, Mordred could actually have gotten her father's approval if she'd just learned how to cook instead of knight-stuff.

UTW FUCKING WHEN

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>>160837304
They dropped it

>>160837398
Is that even confirmed?

>>160837523
no

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>>160837523
Yes
You might as well download the subs that are out

>>160836457
Doing side work to Crunchyroll?

>>160836712
>my 'son' is slaughtering dozens of my men
>I'll just watch for a bit before stepping in and defeating him easily, soldiers are expendable

>>160838355
>my soldiers are soldiers, they fight with the sword, they die by the sword.

Why the fuck does Mordred keep calling herself Arthur's son? I can get behind the father thing because of the whole Merlin futa thing but... what.

>>160838577
Because originally Mordred was a man. They go with it.

>>160837523
They're dropping it, but they're doing it slowly.
Every episode is released later than the last one, and eventually it's going to be so late that no one cares anymore and they'll quietly stop.
Just spam them with pictures of dog dicks until they block you, then contact ICE and tell them that the owner of the site is in the US illegally.

>>160838577
Her mother kept telling Mordred that she was Arthur's son.

Why is Pale Rider the Fake Rider in SF? Isn't disease more of Famine's thing than Death?

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>>160838796
>nips in charge of Christianity

>>160836870
I'm gonna use this for reaction purposes

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>>160833816
Is Mordred more like a mentally retarded girl or more like an irrational animal?

>>160838822
So much ketchup!

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The horns on Mordred's helmet keep reminding me of Final Fantasy judges.

>>160834132
>>160834309
>>160834267
All of these faggroty headcanons make me sick!

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>>160838861
Why is mordred so retarded?

>>160839130
Hi, Zenos. Killing you was a pleasure.

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>>160839250
To be totally honest, Mordred is a 5 year old mentally handicapped child.

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UTW when. I'm actually looking forward for subs this time around.

>women
>father
>son
Why are japs stupid?

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>>160839543

>Chiron is a master of CQC
How the hell does that even work for a centaur?

>>160839506
https://nyaa.si/view/946988

>>160839714
Same as for a human except every 4 moves he gets a free attack where he slaps you in the face with his horse-cock.

>>160839714
Seems he can take on human form, since he chose to be summoned a human.

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>Chiron's first words to Mordred were not I'M FUCKING CHIRON
Could... they actually be learning?

>>160839950
What did this guy expect from spin offs.

>>160834109
The translator wasn't there the weekend.

>>160837523
No, he's shitposting

>>160839506
Sometime today it seems

>UTW: Untranslated Works

Seibah is kind of a bitch when no one feeds her.

>>160839543
It's less about the biological aspect of these terms and more about the implications behind it.

Seiba is a "king" as that is the only title a rightful ruler and knight of a kingdom could have. Hence her successor can only be her "son". That's why Seiba is Mordred's "father".

That's why Mordred gets mad when being called a woman while dressing like a slut: "woman" implicates that she could never be the rightful ruler of Camelot.

>>160840648
No, you faggot. That's not how it works.
Artura should be called the Queen and Lady of the Round table.

There is no justification for everyone thinking that a 5 foot nothing kid with that kind of a voice is a king with even more being damned sure that artura is a chick.

That's fucking retarded on every conceivable fucking level and the more they try to make this work and justify this idiocy the worse it gets.

>>160840772
The whole premise is kind of flawed to begin with. Female monarchs were nothing atypical at that time.

Gotta love Japan.

>>160840919
Unless you were the WRE.
>Irene get out REEE

>>160840648
>"woman" implicates that she could never be the rightful ruler of Camelot.

She doesnt care about ruling Camelot, she only cares about pulling Excalibur out of the stone to prove her dad wrong.

>>160841000
Caliburn, dood.

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>>160838861
>>160839377
Mordred has brain problems

>>160841020
Sorry

Could Fate/Apocrypha still work without Sieg entirely? Could there be other ways to setup up ancient dragon stuff without his character?

>wake up
>check my subs this morning
>a few of 1st grade tier typos
>missed some "our" instead of "I' for Jack
I feel ashamed.

>>160841253
Yea, the heart he gave the retard

>>160840772
>There is no justification for everyone thinking that a 5 foot nothing kid with that kind of a voice is a king with even more being damned sure that artura is a chick.
They all think he's stuck as a pubescent boy in his early teens because of Avalon granting him agelessness, which it did.

The only retarded thing about it is the battle ballgown she wears.

>>160841193
It really bothers me that the Servants are not lined up with each other.

>>160837285
100 photos taken seconds before disaster

>>160838577
You have to be male to become a King.

when you realize arthur killed by mordred

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butthurt kids!

>>160841383
You're a fucking retard

>>160839377
Incest Homunculus with SEIBA genes.

Mordred never stood a chance.

>>160841550
He tried his best anon, but I do agree.

>>160841534
Because Mordred is an edgy actual faggot who murdered her own father and destroyed his kingdom because she was a selfish and retarded little bitch. Not really heroin material. More fitting for the villain.

>>160841596
Mordred did literally nothing wrong except dying.

>>160841596
>More fitting for the villain.
That is why she was known as a villain after her actions.

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>>160841425
plot convenience armor + a random asspull bullshit

>>160841550
For what, telling you the canon explanation for why Artoria was able to pass as a boy?

Fuck off you whiny cunt.

>>160838861
She's mentally a child.

>>160841383
>>160841717
It's fucking retarded.
Pre-pubescent boys are not good sword fighters, I don't give a fuck how many shounen you watch.

The entire thing is stupid contrivancies and they should just stop strying because it insults litterally fucking everyone.

>>160840772
Merlin's magic, dude.
Have you even watched fsn?

>>160841792
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insult

>>160841792
>Pre-pubescent boys are not good sword fighters, I don't give a fuck how many shounen you watch
Damn, its a good thing she was trained by one of the best knights in the kingdom and the greatest living wizard alive from a young age then - and that she compensates for her low physical parameters by abusing her insane prana reserves and wielding the strongest sword ever created.

Its also good that she had a literal prophecy backing up her claim to the throne to start out with.

>The entire thing is stupid contrivancies and they should just stop strying because it insults litterally fucking everyone.
No, you're just a fucking retard who can't accept that its justified well in-universe. I mean Christ, its not as if teenage boys being impossibly fucking great fighters thanks to magic/their heritage isn't present in pretty much every mythology and a well established trope in legends.

>>160841689
Oh come on, there was a Saber near him and the servants had all good reflexes. Rin and Shirou have been saved from more dangerous situations.

>>160841827
Merlin gave her a dick at her request. Why didnt he just make her into a pubescent young man?

>>160841876
>its justified well in-universe.
A justification for something retarded on every fucking level doesn't make it not retarded.
You're going to have to accept that the concept of Seibah is fucking retarded and is only acceptable through rule of cool.

>>160841792
>The entire thing is stupid contrivancies and they should just stop strying because it insults litterally fucking everyone.
b-but muh deep and complex writing!!! ;_;

>>160841886
People can't tell she's a female due to Merlin, he didn't just help her get a futa dick.

>>160841886
>Why didnt he just make her into a pubescent young man?
That would be gay for the self-insert to fuck so that's a no-no.

>>160841916
>its fucking retarded that a 14 year old girl could ever pass as a 14 year old boy
No.

>>160841689
>Saber can protect her master against Assassin
That's neither an asspull nor a plot convenience

>>160841956
>>160841968
Forgot about that to be honest.
But let's be serious.
The entire camelot thing is just goddamned dumb and everything could have been solved with magical sex change surgery.

I think I'm growing old and senile.
Was it ever explained why Arthur was seen as a guy even though it's a girl?

>>160842044
It's neither dumb nor clever, it's simply that way.
There's no different between magical sex change and magic covering your real gender.

>>160842083
Read the thread. Everyone knew Avalon made her ageless so they thought she was stuck as a teenage boy whose balls hadn't dropped yet, since she got it when she was 14-15.

Also Guinivere, Merlin, and Kay were helping her keep it up.

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>>160841643
>Mordred did literally nothing wrong
awesome meme!
no one's taking your meme anymore after pic guy, so keep trying!

Lets not forget that Fate/prototype had Arthur as a guy, but was changed for muh self-insert sales.

Nasu is a fucking idiot for not pushing to keep the story how it original was going to be. He had a fine idea but he let it get shit on by the higher ups and gave in to their demands.

>>160842119
That makes sense. Thanks, anon.
It's still a little awkward seeing Mordred call her father.
But I guess that's anime for you.

>>160842133
>by the higher ups
Anon are you retarded?
Also Prototype is shit

>>160842123
Fuck off, cuck.

>>160841885
>>160841689

Oh come on, Jack is a professional assassin, while Mordred is a 5 year old mentally handicapped child.

>>160842163
Mordred doesn't know her real gender, why would she call her mother?

>>160842175
>Jack is a professional assassin
What?

>>160841886
I wonder why they did not just use Jeanne D'arc in Fate stay Night instead of inventing some kind pseudo-male Arturia bullshit?

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>>160842172
>cuck
ME

>>160842175
>professional
Jack has only ever killed a few prostitutes.

>>160842175
Mordred is stil a Servant with Instinct.

>>160842193
Because Nasu wanted a giant sword beam

>>160842223
Jeanne has a giant fire beam.

>>160842123
Fuck off AZ fag.

>>160842083
They just did.
No bewitching or voice change or anything.
They just thought the tiny barely 5foot tall girl was a boy because reasons.

>>160842115
Then why not keep the whole thing an even bigger secret by makig saber into a dude trough magic?
Shit has already jumped into uncomfortable queerness territory already.
Why not go full hog?

>>160842197
So are Astolfofags technically a cucks?

>>160842273
>Then why not keep the whole thing an even bigger secret by makig saber into a dude trough magic?
Because there's no point?
They can't tell she's a girl, that's enough.
Making her a dude would change literally nothing, since the result would be the very fucking same.
>>160842193
Because Arthur is cooler than Jeanne.

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>>160842273
>Then why not keep the whole thing an even bigger secret by makig saber into a dude trough magic?
Because Merlin is a dick.

>>160842170
Elaborate? I thought we didn't actually know who got Nasu to change from Prototype to what we have now. I'm only blaming the higher ups cause who the fuck else could have had the pressure to make someone change their whole story.

>>160842193
Because the story originated with a male Arthur, and then was changed. Nasu is a shit writer so of course he doesn't know how to change a character once he has designed a story around that character.

Also it probably has to do with king Arthur being the more popular myth of the 2.

>>160842175
Riiiight. Maybe it's better if you just tell us that the Loli is your favorite character and you want the Necro guy out of the picture quick.

>>160842308
>Because there's no point?
>They can't tell she's a girl, that's enough.
>Making her a dude would change literally nothing, since the result would be the very fucking same.
Lot of things that happened in that camelot story might have happened differently if saber had a magical sex change and an appearance that had false age.
Why not?
Would have solved multiple problems instantly.

>>>160842193
>Because Arthur is cooler than Jeanne.
Jeanne is a 20/10 and not a lez with magical futa powers and a bastard child she doesn't claim that she sired on her sister so....
LOL
She even had a greater impact upon the world then Arthur did.

>>160842413
>Lot of things that happened in that camelot story might have happened differently if saber had a magical sex change and an appearance that had false age.
You keep saying this, but it's not true, just stop it.

>>160842413
>LOL

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>>160842336

>>160842431
>You keep saying this, but it's not true, just stop it.
Give me one single reason why Merlin shouldn't have just made Arturia into Arthur and nipped all of that bullshit in the bud.

NO POINT STOP MAKING SENSE is not an answer.

>>160842489
Maybe old wizards are not so smart after all.

>>160842489
Give me one reason why he should've made her a male when no one can't tell either way and thus it would change fucking nothing at all.
You're just making shit up.

Changing someones gender has to be easier on magic consumption than changing the opinion of everyone that looks at Saber at any time in her life. Especially in the long run.

Before you even consider it, I am not >>160842489

I do not dislike that Arturia is a woman, though Fate Arthur seems to be infinitely superior and wiser, It's just that all of her story is handled in an extremely complicated manner.
It's all Merlin's fault because he's a futa faggot

>>160842566
The very close people to her knew and they knew it would be a problem
Why not just change her into a him. The people who are into the kind of ridiculous story of artura in camaelot are oft into magical sex change shit too.
Would be instant munnies.

And what am I making up?
I've created no headcanon This is all established canon and most of the problems that happened in arturas life(the woman who went out of her way to act like a man even taking a wife and getting a futa dick just to fuck her wife and then fucked and knocked up her sister)could have been solved simply by making her into a him and calling it a day.

>>160842621
Artura asked for the ability to grow a magical dick.

>>160833816
The Weeb master of Berserker had that Jewish lamp thing in his room.
Are they Jews? I know Caster of black is.

>>160842668
There were no problems with her actually being a female, stop creating your own fanfiction.

>>160842797
>There were no problems with her actually being a female, stop creating your own fanfiction.
What fanfiction am I actually creating here?

>>160842370
>couldn't beat Arash
>was going to suicide blow herself up against him
>only killed a tired and badly wounded Gawain after he had a long exhaustive fight with Lancelot
>is also dame dame level retarded
Still better then her "dad" though.

>>160842668
>Why not just change her into a him
Because it would make the sex scenes with the japanese schoolboy gay.

>>160842844
Can change her to her original/true form.

Also, she's a canon dyke who begged merlin for bible black powers to fuck her wife and her sister.

Any sex he's going to have with her isn't going to be 100% straight in the least.

>>160842797
Fucking Nasutard.

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Which one of you embarrassing faggots was this

>>160842829
That her gender was the root of the problems she faced.
It's not true at all.

>>160842899
Me. Fuck off faggot.

>>160842899
>>160842380
If he's being real, then that post is right.

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I don't know if this fight was really awesome or really dumb, but Dr Octopus was gorgeous.

so am I the only one who gets irritated that they say their names so casually in the HGW?
Who the fuck is the writer that made this anime so terrible.

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>>160838861
A bit of both.

>>160842935
99% of the fucking story is centered around figuring out how to make everyone believe that she was a dude even while she wore the fucking battle dress.

And one of the knights hated her because he had a thing against women, and there was this thing about her wanting to sire a child and to fuck her wife.

But apparently guinaveire is into non magical dick + artura is a bad fuck so...she ended up getting that chad thundercock dicking from lancelot. Who apparently lances-a-lot.

Did servants have the same level of power in life? Even the normal humans?

>>160842971
DO YOU LIKE

MY CAR?

>>160842797
Being a woman is one of the reasons that led Camelot to collapse. Also being an untouchable and godlike "ice queen" was an attitude that Arturia had adopted to protect herself and her secret.

The point is, Arthura should never have become King. She would have been, rather, the greatest of all the knights because protecting people was her true vocation.

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Takeuchi does it again!

>>160843058
except for those heroic spirits that became meme-tier OP *ehem* Oda.

>>160841596
>More fitting for the villain.
Literally no serious literature has attempted to portray Mordred as a hero

>>160836947
How much of this was in the UBW anime

Honest thoughts on UTW? Did you donate to them?

>>160843096
It turns out strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords really isn't a good basis for a government.

>>160842133
Are you fucking retarded? If he had kept prototype, it would've been shit and wouldn't have sold.

At least FSN sold.

>>160842330
Now I know you're retarded. There are no higher-ups, it's a doujin group comprising of Nasu and Takeuchi. Nasu fucking agreed that he should change Arthur into a woman

>>160842489
Merlin is a Saberfag and likes his cute little Arturia. Kay said it best
>As soon as I saw her, I knew she was going to grow up to be a beauty

>>160843096
She used scorched earth tactics on defenseless villages. Thats not a protector. Thats a heartless warrior

>>160842330
>>160842133
Nasu: Fate was originally a story I wrote when I was in college. In it the gender of Saber and Shirou were opposite to now, but the essential theme had not been changed, it's the story about legendary heroes and "a boy meets a girl."

Takeuchi: I created it because I just liked it, and I wanted to make something like Tsukihime, but more sophisticated. I changed the character's gender, in order to have them fit in with the gamers today. As a product I do feel like it has grown much more than I expected. Whenever we said that 『Fate』 was over and done with, it would refuse to die. I suppose it’s only natural to love and revere something that you have spent so much time cultivating and being so fulfilled by, and to become so attached to it. I don’t mean to be obsessive, but I do want to treat this with utmost care, as we have done up until this point.

Nasu: At first I'd aimed for CCC to be something that can be enjoyed on its own, even more so with Extra. And that Extra can be enjoyed even more with CCC, like Fate/hollow ataraxia to Fate/stay night. But as I wrote the scenario, I became aware of a desire to state the "answer" of the Fate series, which has been continuing for almost ten years now. After ten years, I finally realized that "this is what I wanted to say with the Fate series." If I'm able to complete this, then there'll no longer be anything left for me to say.

Takeuchi: 『Fate』 is really interesting isn’t it? We have the room to think about new possibilities. We will not make a direct sequel, but we’ll go for anything that seems interesting.

Nasu: So the last entry to tie up the Fate series has been released, and I guess we finally close the book on the Fate canon this time.

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I am kinda liking this so far, but it seems a bit boring so far. The only interesting thing were Dr. Octopus and how the weapons of the necromancer looked like, like the heart grenade.

>>160843257
Type-Moon (タイプムーン Taipu Mūn) is a Japanese game company, best known for their visual novels, co-founded by author Kinoko Nasu and illustrator Takashi Takeuchi. It is also known under the name Notes Co., Ltd. (有限会社ノーツ Yūgen-kaisha Nōtsu) for its publishing and corporate operations. After creating the popular visual novel Tsukihime as a doujin soft circle, Type-Moon has since incorporated

>>160843242
Fuck off, it's not like there's a better system

>>160843159
I guess it really sucked back then to be one of the countries that didn't have guys who could move at the speed of light and shoot giant lasers.

>>160843207
None.
Saber is not the center of the UBW story and better for it.

>>160842330
Nasu is the higher up, retard

>>160843058
Generally divided into a few categories.

>Man
Historical person with a well documented history. They usually get buffed when they become servants.
e.g. Gilles de Rais, Spartacus, Alexander

>Earth
Person with his/her history based on legends. The average ones are the same as a servant as when they were alive while the stronger ones get nerfed.
e.g.Atalanta, Medea, Arthur,Siegfried

>Sky
Gods and demi-gods from myths. Almost every single one is extremely nerfed as servants.
e.g. Gilgamesh, Heracles, Karna

>>160843313
> It is also known under the name Notes Co., Ltd. (有限会社ノーツ Yūgen-kaisha Nōtsu) for its publishing and corporate operations
*After* it got rich from Fate. Hell, they fucking used the Tsuki funds to upgrade from doujin -> company to create Fate.

>>160843304
Gotta sacrifice the few to save the many man, as long as most people are happy, it's good enough

>>160843305
>and I guess we finally close the book on the Fate canon this time
NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>160843379
Do they still sell Tsukibako box set?

>>160836457
What is this? Translators having lives and translating my anime late? How dare they.

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>>160842330
This is the most retarded post in this entire thread.
Do you actually think Type-Moon had more than 2 people working in it back when Fate was released?

>>160842887
The dick was a prank from Merlin, not something Artoria desired. Get your facts checked

>>160843367
Don't be delusional, you really think Nasu had the final say in that change? You couldn't be more out of touch with how it works.

>>160843379
I don't know or care about what the conversation is; I wasn't involved in it before someone said "it's a doujin group comprising of Nasu and Takeuchi". That is false, therefore I posted the truth. That's all.

>>160843440
It was a group of around 8, if I remember right. You can see the staff in the fate/complete material books if you really care.

>>160843449
>spawns an autistic retard who REEEs at you, kills your dudes and you
JUST A PRANK, BRO

>>160843304
>>160843242
I personally think that many things would be better if Arthuria did not have the responsibility of being a King and had only to worry about being a guardian for the people.

>>160843449
They fucking said that AFTER because they didn't want their pure saber being that kind of queer and slut.
Even if that were true, it still doesn't change the fact that she fucked guinevere and her sister with it and didn't immediately ask merlin to remove it.

>>160843466
Except context matters retard. If I said Rome has the largest empire in the west right now, I'd be wrong, but turn back about two millenia, and I'd be right.

>>160843025

Agravain loved his king though, you literally don't know what you're talking about, stop

>>160843374
>Gods and demi-gods
Full-on/'true' gods are never summoned as proper Servants. You'd be better-off writing that category as simply "demigods".

>>160843522
>the fact that she fucked guinevere and her sister with it and didn't immediately ask merlin to remove it.
Dude what the fuck are you talking about there is no fucking source for this

>>160843532
The statement "it's a doujin group comprising of Nasu and Takeuchi" was not applicable as true when it was posted nor is it applicable as true now. Stop trying to be 'right'.

>>160843440
Before works are complete you show them to your backers, in this case it would have been the suits in charge of type-moon. They would have specified that the work would sell better having with this and that, and then tell Nasu to go back and change accordingly.

If he continued with what he originally had in mind, it would have been a flop. Type-moon execs would have known this from very early on, and of course they don't want to be sinking money into something they can see making a loss with profits.

>>160843540
We have Quetzalcoatl and Ishtar in GO which is were these categories came from. Karna and Herc both also became gods so they fall under both the definition of gods and demi-gods.

>>160843466
>>160843379
>>160843577
heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html

Mordred being the illegitimate son is a subsequent theory. In a lot of older stories, Mordred was Arthur's brother-in-law or nephew. In fact the true degree of kinship has always been open to discussion.

>>160843671
>Mordred was Arthur's brother-in-law or nephew
That's what I would tell my son too if he were named Mordred.

>>160843695
Which leads to the question, why should you call your son Mordred?

>>160843671
The Scottish stories even has Mordred as the rightful heir with Arthur as the illegitimate one.

>>160843514
Nobody said Merlin wasn't a dick. He also bailed out to Avalon and let Camelot fall even though he predicted it.

>>160843522
She only spent one night with it and asked Merlin to remove it promptly. Morgan took advantage of it at the time and took the material necessary to create Mordred. She didn't fuck Gwen with it.

Futa magic is something relatively simple in Fate. Scathatch even offered to give one to GO's FeMC in the Summer event of last year

>>160843746
Mordred means uncertain, so the reasoning here may be because he was an illegitimate son of Arthur.

>>160843746
Would you tell your autistic daughter that's she's a boy until she believed it?

>>160843096
>Being a woman is one of the reasons that led Camelot to collapse
You mean cause women are dumb?
If so you're right.

>>160843829
People have tried, and it normally ends with the child committing suicide during the teen years or early adult hood.

>>160843599
Holy shit, you're retarded. Nasu and Takeuchi were the owners of TM. They were relatively small until Fate and Fate itself was changed from it's original version because of the two.

Q: What are the fans requesting a lot these days?

Nasu: The Sakura scenario from Fate/stay night, which is called "Heavens Feel". Unfortunately, that's quite difficult to do. There are a lot of hurdles in the way of adapting that. (laughs) But in all seriousness, I haven't been asked to do that, so don't read too much into my comments here.

>>160843646
There is a reason why I used the term 'proper Servants'. Those are pseudo-Servants. The system by which Heroic Spirits are summoned into the world is entirely unrelated to the system by which gods are made manifest.

>>160843899
I thought they wanted to use the movie format, they should not have any rating problems.

>mordred getting gimped by CQC
>the cripple bitch is Doc. Octopussy
>based kairi runs her over
Also
>hey, better chase this assassin servant that can mask its presence and leave my master completely alone
Jack should've ganked kairi at this point. But I guess the writing is kinda meh. And Jack needs to be thiccer.

>>160838861
>not playing with cats

>>160839377
she attac

>>160844187
Mordred had everything under control before Archer.

>>160844185
>no cat butt
So close to perfection

Give me one reason why Grand Order is bad.

Hard mode: no gameplay mention.

Why is 44go so based?

>>160844300
Wants your blood and your money

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>>160844277
If running blindly after something that can vanish and leaving your master alone, just waiting to get ganked like he was about to get earlier is being in control, sure.
>archer shoots from below her
>doesn't step back so the arrows don't hit her
She's not the smartest, is she?

>>160844354
Who the fuck is 44go

>>160844300
>tell me why this game is bad
>don't mention the gameplay though

>>160841596
Once in Artoria's life, she didn't take responsibility. That was the biggest mistake she has ever made.

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>>160844185
>bran

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>>160844187
>And Jack needs to be thiccer.
Blaming Jack for kairi's plot convenience and lazy writing.

/a/ has seen better times.

>>160844086
Ishtar and Jaguarman are Pseudo-Servants, Quetz is not. She's probably getting around it by being summoned in the body of one of her previous incarnations, but it's still 100% Quetz.

>>160837066
"This is going inside me tonight".

>>160844300
I miss the narration that is featured in stuff like FSN it Extra

>>160844354
>not Golion

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>>160837066
What do I have to do to make this qt my wife

>>160844417
You could say she ignored him because of Mordred, but she was clearly going for him before that. And imo, it should be the intended way of using an Assassin - to gank other masters while they're doing shit.

>>160844185
But what the hell with Mordred facing off with that cat in the street there, That was totally ridiculous and retard.

>>160844517
Synthesize a suitable body, maybe one of those dolls or a blank homunculus. Call up your boy Angry Manjew and tell him to bring her ass over. Now bind yourself to her so she can have mana, then proceed to mangle her vagina.

>>160844573
It was supposed to be funny/cute. Guess some people didn't get that.

>>160844573
Just like her

And people give Saber shit, despite the autists that surround her

>>160844418
So, there's one exception. It's to that end that I say just writing it as "demigods" makes things simpler. Otherwise, people will ask things like "which gods have been summoned?", and you'll have to awkwardly backtrack and explain how all of that works and applies for the purpose of answering the question with just "Quetz".

>>160844611

It's literally stupid and retard. Guess some people didn't get that.

>>160844616
yeah, Mordred has down syndrome

>>160844683
It's supposed to be retarded. Guess ESL retards didn't get that.

>>160844625
The whole mesoamerican pantheon uses people as vessels.

So no subs today?

>>160844770
The make-do subs are comparable to UTW.

In fact they might be better because I didn't notice any obvious typos.

https://nyaa.si/view/946988

>>160844770
OP's subs are pretty good. Just watch those.

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Honest thoughts on Extella? Are you ready for the sequel?

>>160844814
>>160844804
I'll trust

So Arthur and Modred are genderfluid?

>>160842193
I grew up to stories of Arthur, Excalibur, sword in the stone.

I know Lancelot is the greatest of Knights and brought down fall to Camelot because he had an affair with the queen, Galahad and Percival and their quest for the Holy Grail, Mordred the Knight of Rebellion, Merlin, Lady of the Lake and Bedivere who returns the sword at his 3rd visit.

I only know Joan as that saint who fought wars and got burned at the stake who prolly looks like Milla Jovovich.

>>160844842
They are not bad like the rushjob subs with earlier episodes, don't worry.

>>160844573
>That was totally ridiculous and retard.
It was supposed to be funny. There's nothing retarded about adding some humour. Its either amusing or dull.

>>160844815
Only beaten Nero but it seems nice enough, it's also actually a bit difficult too, if only because it constantly feels like I'm in danger of losing territory while I'm off conquering, and when I'm defending my places it's like at any time another invasion will start forcing me to waste time on that than earning my rank EX area control

Bitch Tamamo's also pretty hot, as for Extella 2 I'm interested to see what that would be about

>>160844848
More like male-wannabes.

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>>160844863
there are genuinely people who find it funny.

>>160844897
That's why you take a while, then go kill the plant right before it goes capturing shit. Then take that space, and move on. Or sometimes let it start invading, since it can't keep invading if that territory is contested. Yeah, Tamamo wants the D bad.

>>160844860
It depends from what country you are writing and your type of education. If you are English, or European in general and you have no idea about the Hundred Years' War, then it's not something you should boast about.

>>160845218
To be fair, it's not actually very well taught. Because it's one of those complicated conflicts.

Just try explaining what caused it to disinterested kids/teens.

>>160843435
>that kind of drama
I thought UTW where mature at this point.

>>160845278
Jeanne is literally the most interesting thing about that part, but i'm french. I suppose that for the British she was just a pain in the ass.

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>>160844815
Please fix it.

>>160845372
They're past mature, UTW is a corpse that returned from the dead.

>>160844300
it's bad but I like commanding my waifu so it's alright

TLfag here, what did you think of my subs? Sorry for those typos, but I believe the important scenes are ok.

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Where did Jannu manage to find food out in the woods?

>>160845613
If there are typos, it's not okay.

>>160844300
Fate/Grand Order a mobage about "waifus".

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>>160833816
Jannu got bored of Seig and now became a pornstar.

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>Illya, with double l(L), is literally in the title.
>subs spell it Ilya
How incompetent can you be?

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Incest babies, not even once

>>160845658
But I did those at 3am for you guys.

>>160845680
>Read: I have not played or seen anything about Grand Order outside of 4chan or from links from 4chan

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Will he do it?

>>160845710
Quality is always more important than speed.

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>>160842621
Why are these comics so good

>take away Sieg, Jeanne and the homo
>everything suddenly becomes cool
Mysterious

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>>160845696

>>160845749
Onii-chan will save the day probably

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>>160845613
You did God's work, anon.

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Our girl

>>160845613
Decent enough.
But in the second half the grammatical errors get annoying.
Also Jack calls herself "I" a couple of times.

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>>160845895

What happened that so many posts got deleted?

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>>160846017
Where was a fight here

>>160846017
Memes.

>>160846017
The usual.

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>>160846017
poor slut

Desustorage count says that five posts were deleted. How is that a lot, to any of you?

>>160834109
Good riddance. The UTW tranlator doesn't even know that "kanojo" is a female pronoun. Ultimate Translation my ass.

>>160845931
Isn't he otouto?

>>160845749
never

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>>160846188
nope, he's a megane-kun

>>160845966
Yeah I fucked up with Jack there and I reali. I'll fix it after I get home. For myself at least.

>>160845614
The RPG way.

>>160845891
No, it doesn't. It become a borefest of predictability.

>>160845891
>>160846816
But what if both parts are fun but in different ways.

>>160846816
>bland harem MC
>interesting

Siegfags are retarded

>>160846816
>tournament between historical/mythical figures
>boring
One day I hope we can get Fate where Holy Grail war is actually plot's focus

>>160847389
SF

>>160847389
Even Imagawa was like "actually just doing a tournament would be really boring" when directing G Gundam. And that's fucking Imagawa.

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>>160845891
everything suddenly becomes boring and predictable like a generic shounenshit with stereotypical characters

Mysterious

>>160847587
Because G Gundam is 49 fucking episodes
That's like 4 seasons for Type moon

Why does Fiore want to heal her legs if she can just walk with her mech?

>>160836886
-Teleports in front of you-
Pssh... nothing personnel son..

>>160847718
It's not a length issue, it's a "it's actually not very interesting just watching people try to win with flashy shounen powers" problem. You need some other story otherwise you may as well go watch an arc of dragonball, at least there you have established characters you care about already.

You either have an actual story or you turn it into a big character piece and no one wants to spend the amount of time you really need to do a character piece when they could be having flashy battles.

Christ look at how much of Shirou's story was left out of UBW.

>>160847630
Who is the Saber of Anime? That guy in the front with Goku-like hair. I think I recognize everyone else.

>>160845499
How so?

>>160845705
What's wrong with UTW?

>>160846151
How bad are UTW's translators?

>>160847898
>Christ look at how much of Shirou's story was left out of UBW.

Explain.

>>160846151
It could just have been a pun/turn of phrase that doesn't work in english so they chose to scrub it from the script entirely.

You shouldn't focus on an individual word but an entire scene and context when judging these things.

You're probably not wrong that it was a typo or laziness but still, you should do things properly.

>>160847299
>Anyone who doesn't think Apo is trash must be a Siegfag
>Anyone who disagree with me is a Siegfag

What is the matter with Siegshiters in these threads? You don't even reply to actual Siegfags any more. You just come off as rambling incoherently and probably imagine insulting invisible fanboys.

>>160848162
Read the VN.

You don't learn nearly enough about Shirou in the anime to claim you even half understand him or even his story in the anime.

>>160848212
Nasu prefers the anime.

>>160848183
>astolfofag

Even worse

>>160848250
back up this claim. The only time I even heard him talk about it was him saying he was writing scenarios for it.

Why was this episode so good? Is it because no Jeanne/Astolfo/Sieg?

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How did he manage to find a car so fast and break into it, /a/?

>>160848452
Cuz they didn't need to spend any time setting up characters or events and could just get on with the story.

>>160848122
He's being an idiot. Ignore him.

>>160846151
Then translate shit yourself, fucker.

I don't want to be "that guy", but Nasu himself does imply Zero is a serious work over FSN.

>Nasu: I told Aniplex's producer that I wanted the Fate/Zero novels turned into an anime. It was a good suggestion. Many anime fans want there to be a lot of cute bishoujo characters in the work, and while they work hard to meet those needs, Iwakami, an important producer at Aniplex, wasn't satisfied just by doing that. I suggested that he tackle Fate/Zero, a dark and serious story full of raw emotion. He had the resolve, and that's how they ended up adapting Fate/Zero.

Context for this: Iwakami turned down to adapt FSN because he didn't want to adapt a bishoujo harem series, so Nasu proposed Zero. You'll notice UBW was changed to follow Zero mood too, with all Saber's waifu scenes modified and portrayed as Shirou's surrogate "mom". The "dark mature stuff" isn't a secondary meme, it's Nasu's description of Fate/Zero.

>>160848483
>>160848510
The UTW translator doesn't even know that "kanojo" is a female pronoun. Rocco is telling Kairi about the rules he says some shit instead of "seven allies, seven enemies". They also fucked up Flat's song. Caules clearly says "D rank" instead of B. The explosion is supposed to be C at the center, D near the edges. Translating "Let's go" as "Fall" doesn't even make sense. They don't even sound close in Japanese.

Remember when these guys accepted $4,000 in donations and then just vanished. Ultimate Translation my ass.

>>160848357

Nasu: That's right. To put it another way, the Saber Route at this point, we ought to make some significant alterations. If we want to keep the plot as-is, the Rin Route is more suitable, and it will seem fresh. It's the most solid of all Fate/stay night, with combat and buildup, and unorthodox approaches. And on top of that, if we could present the themes of the Rin Route across two seasons as a single, long story, it would definitely be worth doing. It's suitable for a weekly format where the story would build up episode by episode, but I also want the audience to occasionally see it as "a long story that deals with a single theme." Mr. Miura, the director felt the same, so we decided to give it a shot even though the bar would be set pretty high.

http://pastebin.com/8zPfKaNd

Nasu
>I want FSN and Zero to be different things
Miura
>I'm striving for a F/Z sequel

read his interviews. however, he is known as a common liar.

>>160848551
Very funny
I stood up and cheered

>>160848600
>I think UBW is the best fit for an anime
>I like the anime more than the VN

These things don't mean the same thing.

>>160847820
Because she wants to walk normally and not lose mana over being mobile.

>Nasu to ufotable's team: "stay night and Zero can respect each other but they are different works. This new anime will be Fate/stay night."
>Miura once UBW ended: "I tried to make a Zero sequel, hope you liked it xD!"

>>160848452
There is literally nothing wrong with Jeanne and Astolfo

>>160848357
>>160848639
>Kinoko Nasu: With anime, I think power balance that is shown objectively is ideal. This is just the image that the creator has in his head, but the ideal Shirou as a character study is a guy who doesn't crack one smile through the whole show. But in contrast, to get players to enjoy themselves during the long game, I had to pull off comedy bits as well. I personally couldn't think of what to do about that contradiction in this anime adaption. So even as I explained to the staff that Shirou was a character who didn't smile, I was resigned to the fact that it would be difficult in anime, which reflects more of general public. Anyway, when I saw the finished product, lines that perfectly captured what I wasn't able to put into words were integrated into this human being named Shirou. What they made was so ideal it made me flinch. (laughs)

>Kinoko Nasu: When I reread that old material, I thought, "Ah, I'm looking the users straight in the eye. Look at how frankly I'm laying out what I want to say through this story," and I got this weird feeling of, "So that's the sort of person Old Me was". It's embarrassing, but it's like I'm admitting defeat, that it's something that Current-day Me can't do. That said, shoving your main theme down the audience's throat is bad in terms of anime structure. After all, it's entertainment. It's transmission that's going out to hundreds of thousands of people with different dispositions and tastes, so I want to start by gradually tuning them in to my wavelength and getting them to enjoy this anime. So I think the ideal outcome would be that they'll stick with us on this slow burner, or "long single story," and the theme will ultimately get across. Game and anime are different in that respect, too.

>>160848600
I wonder what he'll think about HF, since he thinks that UBW is the most suitable for an adaptation.

>Nasu: I had absolutely no confidence in the erotic bits back then. I didn't even feel the need to put erotic parts in my own stories, so I never even thought about them. When I realized that the game's genre would be in that area, though, I realized it needed sex-related scenes. The thing I feared more than anything else was whether or not I'd be able to write something that would actually turn people on. ... "Writing" is actually a very weak force in the doujin world. If you really want people to read your writing, then you need to come up with a few tricks to pull them in. So the way I looked at it was if I added visuals, made it a game, and then on top of that, added erotic elements, then I'd maybe get 1 out of 10 people to look at it.

>Nasu: I had no confidence. I told Takeuchi, "I'll leave the erotic bits to you. You can think about the situations, the flow, everything." So Takeuchi would sketch something up and show me. "It's going to start like this, continue like this, and finish like this." "Yes, sir!" I said, and just wrote what he told me to. Erotic parts are hard.
>Editor: Interesting. So Takeuchi really did all the erotic parts.
>Nasu: He also thought up the themes and everything else.

>Nasu: We thought about whether putting an erotic scene in during a life-and-death situation would make it more arousing. Shouldn't both Shiki and the player be thinking "Now isn't the time for this!?" It had the possibility of ruining the flow of the story. But, on the other hand, there would be no point to an erotic scene if it wasn't in character. People often say that the main character in ?To Heart? suddenly turns into a perverted old man during the erotic scenes, and I understand what they mean. It has to be erotic, but if it's too erotic then it destroys the story.

2001, about two years before Stay Night's core parts were fully written. Takeaways: Takeuchi ruins everything, 'erotic' parts really are/were tacked-on.

>>160848719
Again. You're posting things that don't mean "I think the anime is better" it's "I wouldn't write it the way I did" and "it's not the kind of thing you can put in an anime"

>>160847898
>Christ look at how much of Shirou's story was left out of UBW.
If by "much" you mean same staments being autistically repeated over and over you can shove them up your ass for all I care.

>>160848719
>but the ideal Shirou as a character study is a guy who doesn't crack one smile through the whole show
Does that nigga just look stone cold while he cooks and eats with Taiga and Sakura then

>>160848466
magic

>>160846017
My posts got deleted and I was warned because apprantly I had given out spoilers without using this when I was reviewing the episode and all I'd done is give out info that wasn't explained in the episode.

>>160848452
Please aporager, stop reposting the same shitposting at each second.

>>160845708
Was it incest though?

>>160848916
Mods give a shit about spoilers now?

>>160848790
>>160848777
As I understand, the way that UBW is adapted leaves out a lot of the detail from the game. People who watched F/Z first also thought UBW was a sequel even though it came first.
As a guy who recently played the entire VN before having watched any adaption, I can say that if you've have even the slight interest in reading VNs, you'll be doing yourself a heavy disservice if you haven't read F/SN before watching any adaptations. Watching the anime adaptation of UBW feels like watching a really fast playthrough doing everything 100% correct. What's great about the VN for example is that you have to choose what action you take to survive. I remember vividly that one of the best parts of the entire F/SN VN was when you were taken prisoner by Ilya in her mansion. Thanks to recent depictions of her she's seen by most of us as a kawaii loli character but in the VN she's a creepy devil child that would literally take your soul and put you inside of a puppet for the rest of your life if you fucked up. Just her appearance was scary enough because of the threat of Beserker who earlier in the VN tears your insides with just one swing of his axe sword. All the gameovers made the VN a lot more satisfying as each was incredibly detailed.
>one where Caster severs your head and puts it in a test tube only to be put out of your misery by Rin
>one where you ask one of the students that live with Caster for info only for him to be controlled by Caster as an automatic trigger puppet and stabbing you in the gut before committing suicide
>one where Rider has caught you in her trap and she severs all your limbs, orgasming from your screams..

Shit was great.

>>160848943
Mordred's parents are half-siblings.