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New novel comes out today.
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>>160720336
Best boy
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>>160720585
>Mizuiro knew about the Royal Realm
OK, something is clearly up with this guy, this is even weirder than him knowing that Shunsui was Captain of Squad 8. He knows things no normal human should be able to know.
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>>160720760
It's a running joke.
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I hope they include this in the new anime, I don't want to read.
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>>160720930
>new anime
Please, like that's ever happening.
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All I want is a databook with all bankais and shikais revealed. And maybe some short stories of every Captain's exam showing off their bankais.
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>>160720930
>new anime
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Aizen backstory when
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>>160720336
>New novel comes out today.
Why do we care? We already read the digital release.
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>>160721164
H-his eyes anon, what's wrong with his eyes?
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>>160721252
Because the entire novel wasn't released digitally. It was the same thing with the previous novel. You have to buy it to read the entire thing.
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>>160720930
>I don't want to read
Neo-/a/, everyone.

Congrats for sinking lower and lower and reverting into an illiterate.
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>>160721252
Based retard
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>>160721302
>Because the entire novel wasn't released digitally.
How?
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>>160721164
Aizen there looks some average Joe one can meet one the street. It's kind of scary when you think about it
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>>160721315
>Reading
>In twenty-seventeen
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>>160721288
They are yellow, not brown like in the anime
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>>160721438
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>>160720760
He didn't exactly know about the royal realm though, all he said in the novel was:

>“Ah, it was about that special sacred place wasn’t it? The one that Aizen was aiming for right?”

some of the stuff summarised is over exaggerated I think.

The novel also said he was investigating things after his encounter with Aizen, he talked with Ichigo and went to Urahara's shop too. That's why he knows things, that's why Shino said something like "you're well informed even though you're a human."
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>>160721355
They only released up to chapter 5 digitally, to read the rest you buy the novel.
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Just starting to read them now
Anything about the Kuchiki?
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>>160721974
Is this recent?
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Spoiler info for the end of the novel alert.

There are two kinds of Hollows. Human born ones and artificial created ones.

The human hollows. The original variant was born centuries ago, when a young man visited a civilization where the “King” and his community resided. The “King” was known as the savior since he could perform miracles; curing illnesses, restoring limbs, and even bringing the dead back to life. Humans began to worship this savior like a god. He also taught the people virtues and morals.

The young man was said to have heard about the king and wished to learn his teachings. The king asked the young man his name and the young man said he didn't have one. The king told him that for something to truly exist, it must have a name. And the king granted his first miracle on the boy and gave him a name.

The boy spent 100 days in the civilization. In those days the boy witnessed the king's power and was amazed. After 100 days, the boy told the king he had to go back from once he came. He was in tears and thanked the king for his teachings and giving him a name Before he left, the king gave the young man a brush and ink, and told him whenever he were start to forget his name – write it down and say it aloud: Ichibe Hyosube.

When Ichibe left, the king told two of his loyal followers that the boy will return in 10 days, and noted Ichibe's tears weren't of joy and gratitude, but sorrow and regret. And said the world will enter a new era.
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>>160721562
Yellow.
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>>160722100
After 10 days, Ichibe did return, with an army, each made from the joint alliance between two leaders: Juro Tsunayashiro and Yoshinaga Shihoin. Icheibe was a peasant sent as an agent. The two fractions raided the civilization. A member of the Tsunayashiro fraction was a double agent of the rival Kuchiki fraction, and they appeared with their own army. All the people were slaughtered as the king didn't fight back and was killed. The souls of the king's dead followers continued to dwell in their civilization as it continued to be destroyed and could only watch in horror as their savior's corpse was ripped apart by the three fighting fractions – wanting the king's power for themselves, Tsunayahiro and Shihoin turned on each other. It was known as the first day a soul felt despair.

Days after the destruction of their society, after the three fractions finally left, the people there started to change, their hearts full of sorrow and anger. They started to turn into monsters. Parts of two rival fractions entered the destroyed civilization in hopes to take what was leftover, and even possible remnants of flesh from the king. Before another fight could break out, the monstrous people killed and consumed them. That was when a “Hollow” was born.

At a certain point, part of the world was “split” by one or more of the fractions, to banish the Hollows that kept targeting them because of the death of their savior and their desire to avenge him. The banished part of the world was cursed with eternal night and the land slowly dried up, with most of it turning to dust.
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>>160722136
The artificial hollows were created many years later as a weapon against the original hollows. The five fractions gained new abilities and formed an alliance to help battle the threat, as some managed to slip from their prison. Hollows eating each other wasn't a thing until the artificial ones were made. The artificial Hollows soon were unable to be controlled and sometimes packed with the human Hollows. The ones that were “born” in the prison now known as Hueco Mundo are the result of this means of creation.
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So do we get to see Aizens bankai or not?
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>>160722100
Wut.
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>>160722100
>>160722136
FUCK SOUL SOCIETY
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>>160722182
>>160722136
>>160722100

Source or your just that "fake spoiler anon".
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>>160722216
AIZEN DID NOTHING WRONH
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>>160722288
Just like Ginjo and Yhwach.
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Quincys did nothing wrong
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>>160722100
>>160722136
>>160722182
WHY COULDN'T THIS BE IN THE FUCKING MANGA
FUCK EDITORS, JAPANESE FLU, BONE INJURIES AND SHIT SLAVER'S SCHEDULES

Seriously, this is awesome. If true.
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>>160721974
>some retards were bitching about Byakkun's "death" on Kubo's twitter before the chapter was even officially released
Good times. He should have stayed dead.
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>>160722508
>WHY COULDN'T THIS BE IN THE FUCKING MANGA
Kubo can't write for shit. He just knows how to draw well.
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>>160720854
All the Espada except Aaroneiro and Zomari were VLs. Yammy was an unknown, so was Ulquiorra.
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>>160722508
It's not true it's the fake spoiler anon.
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>>160722586
Nigga the stuff you read from the last two novels (Rukia's and Hisagi's) is from Kubo's notes. Narita and Matsubara just structure it in a readable format and embellishe it, but the content, the core stuff is from Kubo.
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>>160722633
Shut the fuck up, anon. It sounds cool. Let's just WAIT and hope it is not.
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>>160721562
Bleach had the best covers for WSJ
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>>160722665
There is a difference between writing notes and actually writing your story in your work. He probably can make good shit on paper, but he can't size on it and make a good story.
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>>160720336
>Bleach
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Give me reasons why this place shouldn't be wiped off the face of existence?
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>>160722605
>ESPADA CERO
I was mad when it came out, but it really was the peak of le epin Trollkubo meme, much more than The Heart
I miss the shitty avatars and low quality gifs from the Onemanga forums
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>>160721315
>reading bleach
>not even by kubo himself
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>>160723018
The real world, full of innocent people completely ignorant of this would suffer. These bastards are effectively holding the real world hostage from a threat they themselves created. They have the ultimate job security, they can't vanish because they take the other two worlds with them.
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>>160723038
Those came from Narutoforums' telegrams section. Fun times.
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Kneel
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>>160722100
>>160722136
>>160722182
Oh fuck off. Aren't you tired of posting fake spoilers in almost every Bleach thread?
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>>160723278
But Shinji Bankai is next chapter.
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>>160722337
Ginjou really should have just explained himself better to Ichigo. Why did he bother going through the whole memory keikaku?
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>>160722785
I agree, he can't pace the story and much less fights aside from few.
Kenpachi is my absolute favourite character in Bleach, but the fight with Gremmy was just boring and was literally one volume of nothing. Same with Pernida and Mayuri.
But Kubo does create compelling characters with good backstories, that's what I meant.
The Rukia novel did justice to a lot of side characters like Komamura, whose fates were completely up in the air.
If Kubo had to put it into paper, just the aforementioned Komamura/Iba chapter would have taken 3/4 of a volume.

Kubo has great ideas, but poor realization (in terms of pacing, certainly not art) and storytelling.
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>>160723216
No, I Stand Ablaze.
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>>160723349
For fun. Kubo can't write.
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>>160723349
He didn't care for Ichigo, he just wanted his power to take revenge on Soul Society.
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>>160723411
Good one, anon. Have a sexy Aizen.
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>>160722605
Didn't one LN reveal that Szayel had degraded into an Adjucha and that was why he was a Privaron for a while?
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>>160723102
You know, there was a certain someone who had an idea once. An idea which could have solved that ability and removed any strangehold the Shinigami have over the universe.
I wonder what ever happened to that heroic, young mustachioed man?

Is Kubo's biggest twist of all being that we've been supporting the villains since the start?
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>>160723349

probably something involving quincies that was written out because the fans hated the fullbringers
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>>160723349
>implying Ichigo's faggotry would let him leave Ginjo unmolested

The moment Ichigo finds out Ginjo's reasoning, his hero complex would force him to make Ginjo live his life correctly.
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>>160722100
>>160722136
>>160722182
Kubo and Narita said that they would reveal the origins of hollows in the novels. It is possible, would also explain the existence of the Negar ruins, the three prime worlds and oldest known hollow only being 1000 years old.
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>>160722605
>All the espada except aaroniero and zomari were VL

Source?
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>>160723707
Last Bleach databook.
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>>160723701
Why do you guys say "Negar" in here when it's "Negal"?
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>>160723736
I can't seem to find it online, I'v been looking up proof but no official confirmation.
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>>160723736
Damn, that's even more disappointing then.
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>>160723750
I didn't even know their name until a few days ago, all I knew is that it likely had some connection with Yama's world destroying bankai, the past of the quincies and the 3 worlds.
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>>160723736
All it said was that the Espada were Vastolord-level, which doesn't mean that they were Vastolords when they became Arrancar.

Considering that Nnoitra was only #8 originally, it seems impossible that he could have been a Vastolord. However, he and Grimmjow probably reached the Vastolord level of power after becoming Arrancar.
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>>160723687
Ginjou was right though. SS has just been using Ichigo as a convenient pawn to stop all the people who would bring justice on the nobles that fucked shit up in the past.
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>>160723018
>muh Courage
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>>160723840
It either belong to the Soul King or a master Hollow that ruled long before Barragan that Yamamoto had to kill that so won't be the next villain for a potential sequel starring Kazui.
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>>160723701
Barragan had a six pointed medallion with an eye in the middle.
Grimmjow said hollows and shinigami are at war for only a thousand years.
What is the actual timeline?
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>>160722605
Ulquiorra has a side chapter where he's shown in his VL form. So, nope.

>Starrk was actually the only natural Arrancar, as he split and has a broken mask before meeting Aizen. Possibly that means he was never powered up by the Hougyoku unlike the rest.
>Barragan was shown to be a VL.
>Harribel wasn't shown (I don't count that shit of an anime), but it was heavily implied she was, especially given her power ranking.
>Ulqiorra as I just said, was.
>Nnoitra is unknown.
>Grimmjow was only ever shown in flashbacks as an Adjuchas. Powerful one, but not a VL.
>Zommari was never shown
>Szayel was never shown to be, but the Spirits Are Forever With You novels retcon him into a VL capable of going Segunda Etapa. Meh.
>Aaroniero stated himself to be the only Menos to be an espada
>Yammy is indeed unknown
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>>160722100
ORIHIME IS PART OF THIS FALLEN CIVILIZATION
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>>160724024
>Himefags still thinking she can be important to the actual story.
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How does the asuachi and Hollowfication explain Tousen?

His sword has 2 spirits and 2 unique commands with separate abilities. His friend and his, he imprinted onto a asuachi that already had a spriit?
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>>160724074
What fucking story
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>>160724074
Someone sounds a tad bitter.
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>>160723883
They're way above that. Vasto Lorde are not superior in reiryoku to a gillian by much. What makes them dangerous is the fact that they have an ego, intellect and unique powers, unlike many other hollows. VLs are much smarter, craftier and more brutal than the others. Or else they never would've made it to VL status. Lillynette was a VL arrancar, yet according to Ukitake her cero is more immature than one from a gillian.
>>160724014
A VL is a vast collection of souls with one superior ego in charge of it all. Even after turning arrancar they still carry countless numbers of souls. Ulquiorra was one single retard powerful hollow who was part in a strange phenomena and turned arrancar.
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>>160723883
No the actual text was closer to
>The Espada was almost entirely comprised of the Vasto Lorde class hollows

I don't have the picture here of the raw text but it definitively said the Espada were made from Vasto Lordes and nothing about their power levels.
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>>160724074
Those spoilers are fake, and what story? If you're taking about the novel then no one form main gang will be important since Narita doesn't seem to care to write about them. At most I can see Ichigo and Uryu making an appearance, but that's it.
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>>160724182
Please source this
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>>160724206
>fake
Proofs
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>>160724109
Yes. Or remnants of his friend's reiatsu remained and bonded wity him.
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>>160724206
>Thinking I don't mean the story of the series overall.
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>>160724014
I love how people miss the point of the Grimmjow flashback this hard. It was never to say "Grimmjow capped out at adjuchas!" It was entirely about his determination to fight and grow, notice how it never ended with Grimmjow meeting Aizen and becoming an arrancar. It was purposely open ended to leave room for further evolution.

>>160724232
Some autist on BleachAsylum had translated the databook a while back but since the site shut down I dont actually have the raw nip version. This is the English version although I explicitly remember the guy translating it stressing the wording of "almost all of the Espada" as opposed to "most of" which leaves it open to interpretation here.
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If you think about it, Tousen's backstory in this novel completely makes Kommamura obsolete. I mean his entire character was centered around saving Tousen.

But apparently Tousen was already corrupted before they even met, Koma lost everything for nothing and now he's a stupid wolf.

Also his bankai was awful.
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>>160723907
Ichigo knew Ginjou was right, he still didn't care. That was the point of their last fight. Ichigo put himself in Ginjou's shoes and was still determined to cut him down.
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>>160724259
She more relevant than Uryu/Chad/Renji/Rukia after the first arc desu.
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>>160724613
He did save him when he killed him.
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Anyone got the "how much realer can shit get" pic?
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>>160724239
You're obviously a newfag because ever since the previews for this novel have been released there as been an anon in threads posting fake spoilers. It's obviously the same person.
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what are origins of wolf clan and Koma?
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Sure, a new Bleach anime would be expensive and time consuming but can't they milk the final arc with a new phone game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrfK7hysGD4
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>>160723801

Ichigo inherited Rukia's powers and gained, temporarily, Sode no Shirayuki. This blade remained with him all the way until the shattered shaft. Inside of his soul, Zangetsu told Ichigo to pull him out before his entire world crumbles, and so he does at the last minute.

Far later in the manga, at Phoenix's castle it's made official that a shinigami CANNOT birth a zanpakto without an asauchi. It is ALSO made fact that all asauchi are basically hollows with no element or characteristic.

When Ichigo calls on Zangetsu for the first time against Urahara, he uses Rukia's asauchi he inherited as a result of getting her powers in the first place, as a BASE to give Zangetsu form--and that blade is plenty strong enough until it makes contact with Zaraki. It's strength is still enough to fit off against a captain class shinigami at like 50% of his raw strength. However, the moment Zaraki's patch comes off, the reiatsu output completely overwhelms the maximum limit of Zangetsu made from Rukia's asauchi base. As a result, the blade breaks and Ichigo gets stabbed near his heart and nearly bleeds out.

AT THIS POINT, his Quincy half brings him back into his inner world and tosses him an Asauchi and ZANGETSU SHOWS UP. There Ywach's shadow tells him to fight the hollow (Zangetsu) and get back his own blade. Ywach tossing Ichigo an asauchi is symbolic, and him telling Ichigo to fight the hollow to get back his real blade is also symbolic. His soul is effectively forging a new asuachi for him using his own hollow powers as the BASE. This NEW BLADE lasts him all the way to Mugetsu, where the blade once again breaks--but only as a result of channeling his entirety of his powers in one final attack.

Then it goes through Xcution arc and he regains his shinigami powers, however his soul reaper badge acts as a BASE for his renewal.

1/2

Time to post it again.
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>>160725042

Because the badge stored a vast amount of his hollow/human/shinigami/quincy reiatsu. It all amalgamed into a "fake" BASE for his new Zangetsu--which is why it looked closer to his fullbring. This blade then lasted him all the way till he encountered Ywach, but only broke, when Haschwalt cut his bankai in half.

THEN we got the explanation about how broken bankai can't be fixed, only reforged. We then have Ichigo go to the royal guard, and goes through the steps where he learns of his heritage, blah blah blah; and Zangetsu is forged again using an asuachi PROVIDED BY Phoenix. As a result, Phoenix's asuachi being WEAK PIECES OF FUCKING SHIT can't handle Ichigo's reiatsu and the blade splits into the hollow and quincy half respectively. This blade lasts him all the way till he fights Ywach and the Almighty, only to have it break because ASSPULL CHEAT POWERUP.

HOWEVER, and this is the MOST important part. Zangetsu, when he has the conversation with Ichigo and gives him access to his shinigami powers once more from the get-go, being Ywach's shadow has come to have pride in Ichigo himself and instead of hampering Ichigo, instead helps Ichigo. HERE Zangetsu-Q runs his own gambit where he makes sure that Ichigo's bankai is FAKE. It's why his bankai againgst Almighty Ywach looks like his shikai. This is NOT his real bankai. It's why the blade shatters like a god damn twig against the Almighty--BECAUSE IT'S FORGED BY A SHINIGAMI.

Ywach said when Ichigo got out of Kirge's jail "a quincy cannot contain another quincy." Ichigo's real blade is a blade of harmony between Hollow/Shinigami/Quincy. It cannot be broken by another Quincy. But Phoenix's asauchi based version of Zangetsu DOES break.

And so his shinigami forged blade breaks again. Along comes Tsukishimi and using his Book of End sets the record straight that "his blade did not break". Ichigo then goes and fights Ywach again with his fixed "shinigami-bankai".

2/3
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>>160725084

Along with Renji, Aizen, and himself, they fight Ywach to the bitter end--and instead of his FAKE bankai breaking again--it only, instead, this time around, cracks.

WHY? Why did it not break? Simple, because of Zangetsu-Q's gambit.

Then Uryuu using the arrow head given to him by Ryuuken shoots Ywach and his powers disappear for a second. Ichigo, then attacks Ywach with this FAKE bankai, but the effects of the arrow begin to wear off and Ywach is able to summon barely enough power to stop the blade in his hand for a moment.

AT THIS POINT, the FAKE bankai shell (courtesy of Zangetsu-Q and Zangetsu-H) shatters to reveal the ORIGINAL Zangetsu forged from Ichigo's soul once more--and this blade then proceeds to cut Ywach in half.

Incidentally, when Ywach has a dream where he's cut down by Ichigo, the ZANGETSU that Ichigo uses is his original. It's NOT the new one.

And thus Ywach dies at Ichigo's hand using the blade forged once more from his own soul. Because it's a Zanpaktou: a SOUL CUTTER.

3/3
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>>160725132
Beautiful
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>>160724554
Just recently got the MASKED character book and the image that anon posted was a few pages into the arrancar chapter.
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>>160723907

Yes. However, the difference between Ichigo and Ginjou is that Ginjou recognized the truth and went to war with it. Ichigo recognized the truth, and tried to see beyond it; and realized that while he's probably one of the strongest shinigami in all existence, he still cannot fight an entire organization that has powers that can crush the world military beneath their sandals.

He's one man, further, he has friends within this dimensional military organization; so he chose the higher road. He recognized that Soul Society had fucked up in many ways, and that like any society/organization, corruption was no doubt ripe and rampant across various levels. But that it was better to change it from the inside than to fight it all.

When Ginjou decided that all bets are off, and that he's going to cut down Ichigo, that's when Ichigo decided "I don't want to kill you, but you're forcing my hand and endangering those who I protect and those whom I have bonds with; so I will kill you."

So he did. Neither Ginjou nor Ichigo are wrong, but Ichigo took the higher road.
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What about Kenpachi and his loli LT?
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>>160725481
To cut down with nothing but responsibility instilled in the blade.
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>>160725483
Yachiru was Zaraki's zanpakutou spirit.

That's why she disappeared right when he learned shikai. She has to live in the blade for him to be able to use his power.
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I'm surprised Barragan didn't hold a grudge towards Stark, It must be hard to go from number 1 to number 2.
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>>160725132
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>>160725779
>natural arrancar
>just another Vasto Lorde that had to be powered by the H.ball
It was never about the rank. It was about Aizen's stomping on him like he was nothing, while he was immensely prideful in his role as King of the Hollows.
Given how Starrk never gave a fuck about anything, including dying, I doubt Barragan ever saw him as a threat/enemy.
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All the sketches from the novel were scanned and there's only 9. We got more sketches the last novel.
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Just saw this and figured I'd post it here.
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Where I can read the novels?
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Dumping.
Slowly.
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Still looks like a faggot. Big surprise.
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>>160726687
Probably that's not all. The sketches in baidu only cover chapters that's been released in the app.
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"Don't raise your voice Kuros- yeah, whatever your name is"
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>>160726988
This hairstyle suits him well.

>>160727025
>draws this faggot instead of Hali & Nel
Kubo...
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A man and his boipucci
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>every villain was actually in the right
>the "heroes" were the villains all along
>the actual villains completely win

The LNs just make Bleach even more of a waste of time.
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>>160727032
It's all of them. Someone on r*ddit scanned his copy.
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"Motorbikes in heaven? What's next, talking hands?"
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"Welcome to Casting Couch. Have you ever done this before?"
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Poor PTSD-chan.
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Nobility really ought to step up their hat game.
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>>160727161
That shit was already in implied in the manga though.
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"I laugh at everything you lost, I orchestrated half of your tragedies, didn't do shit in the invasion aside from stealing stuff to make things even worse but please, join me in my Aizenesque revolution : 3"
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Last one, best one.
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>tfw no hallibel or nel sketch
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>>160727170
>Got the novel today, doesn't seem to be new information as it ends at the Tosen/Aizen meeting from Part 7.
Huh. So they did release everything in the app? Those sure don't feel like 276 pages.
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>>160727256
I like her hat.
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>>160727374
What the fuck? The novel ending on same chapter as the last preview makes no sense. The physical copy should have more chapters.
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>>160727310
I thought the SS was corrupt assholes, sure. But I didn't know they were outright evil.
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>>160727450
necessary evil
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>>160727310
Sure, we suspected they were venial and not as nice as they tried to seem. But we don't know that every villain, even Ginjo, was completely justified and that the soul society were irredeemable monsters.

Everything Ichigo did is a joke.
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>>160727398
It also makes no sense to release a physical copy since it won't sell well.
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What happened to him, /a/?
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>>160727630
Nothing. Ichigo has always stayed the same despite what idiots say.

He wanted the power to protect especially those most important to him.
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>>160727630
He saved the world and got a bangin' hot wife.
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>>160727374
He has an asauchi here. Hiw was he able.to confuse the guards then?
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>>160727778
This. Ichigo's motivations remained consistent. He just became more grown up as the series progressed.
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>>160727630
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>>160727828
Exactly. He wasn't going to stay the same fresh teenager.
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>>160727785
>He helped prop up a corrupt and evil regime and got a bangin' hot wife.

Fixed.
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>>160727778
So then why'd he save all those non-friend people during the first arc? Was he just showing off in front of Rukia?
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>>160727910
Read tge sand and rotator mini chapters.
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Are we EVER gonna finish this?
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>>160727882
Soul Society is corrupt and fucked up, but it's a better alternative to keep the universe in order and balance than to fuck it up and reduce it to chaos. Balance is one of the primary themes in Bleach after all.
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>>160727938
That doesn't explain anything.
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>>160727910
Because he wanted to protect. It's just that over the course of the series his whole motto turns from "muh protect" to "muh protect those most important to me". The beginning and first arc are the only times we really see Ichigo protect people he doesn't have ties with them because this lessens over the course of the series; in the HM arc he solely protects Nel and her companions but mostly Nel because he thought she was a defenseless child.
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>>160727256
Arbol is fucking beautiful. The whole Resurreccion thing was top notch
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there are still more questions unanswered....
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>>160728018
>soul society apologist

Keep your loser logic to yourself.
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>>160722100
>>160722136
>>160722182
damn this is pretty fucking good
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>>160727882
He didn't and honestly it's not his job to fix that corrupt system. Ichigo has done more than enough for SS over his teenage years. The Shinigami who are fucking 100+ years old should be changing the system if they really desire it.
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>>160728065
But why did his motivations regress so much even though he never really failed at anything?
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>>160728133
It's fake.
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>>160727374
Why is Aizen so amazing?
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>>160728229
SOURCE?
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>>160728065
He heals Ikkaku after their fight, he protects Grimmjow after Nnoitra sneaks him, and in the last arc he he tells T to get out the way when she was about to get hit. Ichigo's motto was to protect the people he cared about and the people in front of him just like his mother did for him.
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>>160728152
>Ichigo has done more than enough for SS

Yeah, that's the part I was referring to when I said he helped prop up a regime that should fall. I'm not blaming Ichigo as a character - nobody ever bothered to tell him shit even when they had plenty of chances to (like why the fuck did Ginjo never even try to justify himself?). It just turns out the actually heroic thing to do would be to help any of the "villains", and the best we can say about Ichigo is that he's a naive tool who got played. Storywise I'll never be able to go back and read Bleach and view Ichigo as a hero ever again.
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>>160720336
Liltotto.
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>>160727176
>heaven
We all know that Soul Society isn't Heaven, it is one of the worst afterlives imaginable. And really there is absolutely no reason for Rukongai to be such a shithole still stuck in Feudal Japan.
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>>160728286
He couldn't protect Aizen from Yhwach's goo.
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>>160728180
I don't think they regressed. The strangers that Ichigo has saved over the course of the series especially early on have always been in his line of sight, he never went out to try and find people in need of help which is something I think people tend to forget. He wasn't some angel that went out to find spirits or people in need of help, he simply helped them if he were to come across them; Chad is a main example of this.

Also >>160728286 points out scenes where Ichigo does lend personal help.
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>>160728433
That joke we always made is basically completely accurate: the Bleach afterlife consists of Hell, Super Hell, and Ultra Hell.
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>>160728442
So he's just a weak-willed thug?
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>>160727450
It's really just the nobles and Squad Zero.

Pretty sure if the rest of SS knew all the shit that goes down behind the scenes, there'd be riots.
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>>160728180
Did you forget the arrancar arc? He kept getting btfo constantly and was always getting saved by someone else. The only legit win he had without getting helped by something or someone was his fight against Dordoni and his last fight with Grimmjow. As a result of that all his friends and allies kept getting hurt.
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Well it's confirmed that the novel ends with the preview already released. I doubt it'll sell well since the entire thing is online already.
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>>160728018
>MUH BALANCE
I always found this to be a bit of a fallacy. The fact that there used to be a world without this "balance" where all the worlds were one proves that it's not needed.
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>>160728645
>Pretty sure if the rest of SS knew all the shit that goes down behind the scenes, there'd be riots.

They're already plenty OK with leaving the average souls to suffer in grinding poverty (some of them starving to death) and being preyed upon by criminals - when they're not going out there to randomly murder passersbys, like Unohana and Kenpachi did.
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>>160728643
He was never a thug. He simply got that label because of his hair color. It was mostly people picking fights with him.
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>>160728716
He solves every problem he has with violence and he loses his shit when it doesn't work. He's a thug.
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>>160728677
The balance stuff is basically damage control for the future generations.
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>>160728774
Almost every problem of his is related to some supernatural being so obviously he needs to turn to fighting. He's only violent with his dad from what I remember, but that's more of a running gag Kubo kept adding.
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>>160728713
Shame that Kubo didn't have Rukia and Renji try and change the system especially since they came from poverty and have raised their status in SS.
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>>160728677
It's more to save innocent souls and people from having to live alongside hollows. Probably.
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>>160728836
He's been solving his problems with fists way before the supernatural shit happened to him.
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>>160728774
I'd have to agree with you at the very least on Ginjo. Ginjo stole powers he gave Ichigo, and planned on leaving him alone after that, making Ichigo no worse off than he was before he met Ginjo. And Ichigo decided he was therefore justified in killing Ginjo. That was just a flat out murder.
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>>160728643
i don't get how this is weak-willed? explain.
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>>160729042
Falling into depression every time you lose a fight is pretty weak-willed.
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Ginjo should lead a peasant revolution of Rukongai. Odds are the vast majority of the population highly resents Shinigami since their corruption and indifference is why they're so miserable, and would eat up Ginjo's anti-Gotei speeches.
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>>160728923
I don't really remember Ichigo fighting on-screen with his fists that much, but my mind is hazy when it comes to early Bleach.
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>>160729108
The very first chapter was him beating up a bunch of skateboarders because they disrespected a ghost they couldn't have known was actually there.
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>>160729108
Ichigo defeated 3 Vice-Captains who had entered Shikai just by punching them.
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>>160729094
And what the fuck are they going to do against the captains?
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>>160723801
>>160725042
>>160725084
>>160725132
KUBOOOOOOOOOOOO
Even when Bleach is over, we still get KUBO'd
>>160725481
good post, you made that arc sound a lot better than it actually was
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>>160729178
>>160729178
Thank you for pointing that out.
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>>160729094
>SS turns communist
>all captains have to wear red berets and the zanpaktous all turn into hammers and/or sickles

Picked up.
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>>160725481
>it was better to change it from the inside

By "change it from the inside" you more specifically mean "do nothing" I take it?
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>>160729094
Those peasants are probably starving and weak physically. What in the world could they do against the Captains?
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>>160729310
They're not starving, and that's actually precisely why they can't do anything against the captains.
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>>160729182
And then it was revealed that Sasakibe was Captain-level and had mastered Bankai 1000 years ago. Kind of embarrassing for him.
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>>160729182
Because they were ordered to attack and they had pointy weapons pointed at him.
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Liltotto best girl
Megaman powers are cool
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>>160729338
Didn't Rukia and Renji have to steal food/water to survive?
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>>160729094
The Rukongai peasants need to get their shit together. Start building shoes factories and developing a functioning economy and infrastructure.
They could also use computers in order to create databases to help loved ones reunite.
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>>160729374
Only people with spirit powers need food.
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>>160729371
>Megaman powers are cool

You mean Kirby.
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>>160729383
>Implying Soul Society would let them do that.
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>>160729384
Was this stated in the manga?
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>>160729310
Only people with decent spiritual pressure can starve like Rangiku in that flashback with Gin. If you don't produce enough reiatsu or whatever you don't go hungry.
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>>160729411
Why not? The more work and money they make, the more you can steal from them. In fact, it would make more sense for the Sereitei to build their own factories there and use peasants as labor, better than just leaving them around all day doing nothing.
Makes you wonder how the Nobles got rich if they have nothing to exploit from the peasants.
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>>160729422
So they're just poor?
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>>160729471
For the same reason that SS does anything: just to be assholes.
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>>160728677
The balance stuff is true but in more of a SS setup things so that everything getting unbalanced would be disastrous. It's an entirely artificial problem that they created to basically hold everyone as hostages while pretending they're doing everyone a service.
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>>160729471
>Makes you wonder how the Nobles got rich if they have nothing to exploit from the peasants.

Maybe their ancestors just stole the treasures of the King.
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>>160729525
Then killed him.
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>>160729471
One would assume that there are farms out there where peasants work, since otherwise where does the food the Shinigami need to eat come from?
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>>160729087
He thinks he's just an ordinary kid who can see spirits but is then constantly being put in extraordinary circumstances and then losing your mother because of something he thought he did messed with him.
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>>160720930
>new anime
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>>160729483
Essentially, yes.
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>>160729383
>They could also use computers in order to create databases to help loved ones reunite.
The fact that SS can't even be bothered to do something like this shows how little they care.
Parakeet Kid will never find his Mom. Really, it's a miracle that all of the Fullbringers found each other.
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>>160728676
People will still buy it for
1. The illustrations
2. Narita

This Hisagifag for example bought 2 copies:
https://twitter.com/huzi1018/status/893416345223680000
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>>160729680
And what do they need money for if they don't even need to eat and drink?
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>>160729714
Shoes. Housing. Taxes.
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TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM
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>>160729696
>all of the Fullbringers found each other.
I suppose they can sense each other reiatsu?
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>>160729714
Well candy still tastes good and they use money to raise their standing potentially.
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>>160729779
Tosen was right too. His friend's husband really is an asshole.
Really, surprised Tosen never tried to murder him or begged Aizen to help him to it.
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>>160729779
so why did aizen touch orihimes lips and ichigos bare chest?
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>>160729864
Because Aizen has good taste.
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Aizen is the true hero

Bleach sequel with Kazui & Ichika allying with Aizen when

>MCs in Hueco Mundo clothing
fuck yes
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>>160729959
Kazui is too pure for that.
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>>160729471
In WDKALY, Nayura's reform include hiring Rukongai people as workers for the reconstruction of Seireitei.
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>>160729856
Aizen probably premised him that all of it would be taken care of once he becomes a god.
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>>160729997
Aizen is pure deep into The Heart

He wanted to be the Hero, but he had to play the Villain.

Because he's the hero the world deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
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I wonder if the reason Nanao's mother had Kyoraku hide the Ise Sacred Sword was because she knew somebody (a Tsunayashiro?) was going to steal it.
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>>160730326
It would probably the best way to kill the SK
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So I understand how Aizen and Ginjou were right, but how was Yhwach right?
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So does anyone actually know how much the final volume managed to sell? I know it didn't flop, but I know it didn't pass a million like Naruto.
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>>160730392
How was he wrong? How is a world where nobody dies worse than a world in which everybody dies and can only go to some variety of hell?
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>>160730535
courage
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>>160730685
>the many should have shitty lives so that a few can improve their own characters or whatever

Yhwach was right.
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>>160730685
This reeks of sour grapes.
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>>160730774
fuck the Many desu senpai
Why should the best have to cater to them
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>>160730906
>Yhwach caring about everyone, SS only caring about the master race
>it turns out the Nazis were actually Jesus and his angels, and the angels were actually Nazis

Full Kubo.
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So when are chapters for the next novel going to start coming out?
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>>160731056
Since the second part is out in winter then we should get previews probably around fall.
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I'm confused

So basically Aizen/Yawach were right all along and Squad 0 and the SS nobles are just huge fucking corrupt assholes?
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>>160731238
Yes.

Pic related is the book they wrote about Ichigo.
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>>160731238
Not really. Yhwach basically wanted to destroy everything and everyone so no one would experience death or something like that while Aizen stated that he wants to rule over SS.
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>>160720930
>new anime
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They forgot the fourth noble house.

Kuchiki
Shihoin
Tsunayashiro
???

Shiba is fifth, but banished or something.
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>>160731351
Our only hope is for the second part to reveal it. If not then we're never going to find out what it is.
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>>160731306
Ah I see. I at least get that Ichibee especially needs to get his shit wrecked since all he does is prop up a corrupt system and flat out wanted to use Ichigo as a new soul king apparently.

>>160731312
Yawach probably wasn't very justified, but I can go along with Aizen just wanting to kill those fucking assholes up top.
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>>160731351
Fourth clan will probably play an important role, otherwise why hide it for so long?
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>>160731468
>flat out wanted to use Ichigo as a new soul king apparently.

I mean I get that if Ichigo is killing in battle with Yhwach, you could use him as a last resort, and that would be a necessary evil. But judging from the novel it seems like Ichibee was flat out planning to kill and dismember him.

>>160731501
I'm crossing my fingers for clan Aizen.

Don't mistake Kubo's lazy disinterest in world building for purposeful secret keeping though.
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>>160731468
Would an SS under Aizen be better though? He's shady.
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>>160731528
Yeah it seems like Isshin and Urahara knew about it too. What a terrible father.

>>160731589
I have no idea. Aizen could very well just leave things alone after he kills all the corrupt people.
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>>160731468
An Unohana for you.
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>>160731661
Where was it even hinted that Isshin knew about Ichibees plans?
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>>160731711
I think it was said on the r*ddit posts that Isshin/Urahara/Old Man Zangetsu all knew about Ichigo being a potential Soul King. Unless I misread that somehow
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>>160731751
Some users on r*ddit tend to take their headcanons and try to fit it into the story. I've seen them get called out.
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>>160731711
The whole "giving him his powers could be stealing his future" is read as meaning Isshin knew. Seems like a reach to me, and even if Isshin knew it was a possibility, maybe he just had faith Ichigo would win.
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>>160731852
That was back in the FB arc though.
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>>160731792
>Some users on r*ddit tend to take their headcanons and try to fit it into the story

Yeah, we're lucky that NEVER happens here.
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>>160731351
It's either Yamamto, Aizen, Urahara, something new, or something completely out of nowhere like Matsumoto.
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>>160731881
We have QUALITY headcanons here. There is a difference.
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DAILY REMINDER THAT URAHARA THEORIES ABOUT HIM BEING A VILLAIN ARE TRUE. FUCK SOUL SOCIETY. AIZEN, GINJOU AND YWACH DID NOTHING FUCKING WRONG.
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>>160732039
What the hell are you going on about?
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>>160732039
>You realize Gin betraying Aizen wasn't him being on the good side, but being on the dark side.
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>>160725042
>>160725042
>>160725084
deepest lore~~
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>>160732135
He wasn't fighting for SS. He was fighting for his waifu. All Aizen had to do was promise not to bully her.
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>>160727960
Get KUBO'D. Also, seems it will need to be updated pretty soon.
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>>160728323
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If Bleach was popular today, would people deride it as crap for edgelords?
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>>160732763
Bleach isn't that edgy.

There's dark content/gore but Bleach seems more quirky than Akame ga Tokyo Ghoul
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>>160732521
I hope she gets to save her friends
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>>160732859
They can ask. After all they cooperated in the end.
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>>160731751
Isshin, coming from a prominent noble house, most likely knew the "original sin" and the SK's condition - an empty shell used as a linchpin to keep the worlds from crumbling, limbs torn apart to become further safeguards/powers.
Kuukaku's words when Ichigo was sent to the RR for the training were "even if that will make uncle sad". Add the whole "stealing the future" sentence from the TLA arc and Isshin knowing seems most logical.

Urahara either exorted the secret out of the Shibas or saw the "King" himself.
His last words with Aizen before got sealed at the end of Deicide were "so you saw it as well?".
Now, I'd be extremely interested how Urahara got up to the RR, it could tie in with the debt that Tessai mentioned in TBTP towards Yoruichi.

Old Man Zangetsu IS Yhwach. That's Ichigo's legacy, he's literally a descendent of Yhwach and the First King that got destroyed in the last arc, so of course he would know.
He expressed conflict in his mentor role and didn't want Ichigo to mature his full powers as he clearly stated back in the RR when Ichigo got his Asauchi.
OMZ knew his "live" alter ego, Yhwach, would either kill Ichigo himself or, in case he'd lose, Ichigo would have to face an eternity of immolation as a puppet.

I'm inclined to believe that's what Haschwalth saw when he got the Almighty's powers, and that's why in the end he couldn't bear to let Ishida and the nakama fail, but also why he didn't resent Yhwach for killing him - he was loyal, but the future he saw was too cruel to let it happen.
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>>160720930
The chances of that happening are very slim. I still think they're going to animate the rest of the manga at some point, but I can't really see the novels getting that treatment. Unless the reason the anime hasn't come back is because Kubo specifically wants the novels to cover all the things he wanted to include in the manga first and then animate the entire series.
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So what happened to the Cirucci, Luppi, Dorondi, and Charlotte?
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>>160725042
>>160725084
>>160725132
All according to keikaku.
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>>160721003
How has he not done this yet? He clearly had more powers to reveal before he had to end the series. Is he planning to reveal all of it bit by bit in the novels?
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How old were you when you started Bleach?
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>>160733885
It's fake.
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>>160734047
>He clearly had more powers to reveal before he had to end the series
What the fuck made you think that? You really believe Kubo plans ahead?
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>>160734187
Then what's true.
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>>160734161
very early teens
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>>160734161
Mid teens.
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Whoa, I just finished the manga and then looked it up and it ended today a year ago. What are the odds?
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>>160734161
15.
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>>160735000
It ended on the 18th.
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>>160735000
It ended August 22.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/weekly-shonen-jump-236-no-38-august-22-2016/4000-545905/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/weekly-shonen-jump-2375-no-38-september-5-2016/4000-545787/
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>>160735213
Also, FYI, Bleach's birthday is August 6.
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>>160735000
I had to actually check to see that you weren't memeing. Has it really only been a year? I could swear it has been at least 2, possibly 3. I guess it has to do with reading chapters weekly for years and then suddenly stopping so it feels like it has been ages.
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>>160733218
Does Isshin know that a candidate for Soul King need to have the combined powers of shinigami, quincy and hollow?

Did he stop and consider that before impregnating Masaki the first time? Or the second time?
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>>160735299
It definitely feels like more than a year
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>>160734261
Kubo does plan stuff out but it seems like most of the planning went into the first two arcs while the rest was basic ideas/concepts and few key moments.
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Finally read up on all the stuff we currently know. Could Ichibe/Shunsui even beat Ichigo on a 1 on 1 fight? I doubt they would have been able to make him into the soul king otherwise.
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>>160735907
Ichibe is generally the most OP character in the series. The only reason he lost was because Yhwach had an even more broken ability.
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>>160720585
>Two Lonely Souls’ Wild Drunken Night
Huh, I didn't know this existed.
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>>160722100
>>160722136
>>160722182
Wow, fuck the soul society, they pretty much ruined one world, created their own world and are holding hostage another one under the lie of protection from monsters they themselves created in their endless greed and bloodlust, how the fuck can anyone call this anything but evil? Even more evil, they have people who legit think what they're doing is good and jest
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Will there be other works after CFYOW or is Bleach done after this?
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>>160736766
Holy shit. Read the thread. That info is fake. Someone who has the novel and scanned the sketches already confirmed that it's fake.
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>>160736845
Oh. Well I'm still angry and now I have nothing to direct this rage at.
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>>160736888
The SS did canonically do a bad in the past, though.
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>>160736827
CFYOW is promoted to be Bleach's ラストノベライズ (last novelization).
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>>160736827
The live action movie, the new mobile game coming soon, and at least one more novel after the one that released today.
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>>160722100
>>160722136
>>160722182
So how does this relate to oridinary human souls that become Hollowified due to despair overwhelming them? Are human souls that become Hollowified the same souls that became the first Hollows, just passed through the Cycle of Reincarnation multiple times? Does this mean that Hollow corruption cannot be completely purified? That a sizable majority of the human population have in fact artificial souls?
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>>160736845
The SS is still a piece of shit and you know it. Nobles and the Soul King's myth.
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>>160737070
It's a shame that it's obvious that Hisagi WILL find out the truth, but will have to shut up about it because "muh balance".
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>>160737119
Do you think Byakuya and Yoruichi know about the original sin, there is nothing that ever suggested that but they were both the head of their clans. Ichibee is a little shit for sure though, after all the new info shown I wish the bad guys won.
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>>160737541
I think Byakuya probably knows. Yoruichi is confirmed to not.
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>>160736827
Live-action and new mobile game.
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>>160737049
>>160737604
Wow...Hooray. I'm SO excited...yeah.
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>>160737573
When was this confirmed? I thought she only didn't know if the sk was alive/dead.
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>>160721382
That's what made the reveal much more epic than it should and why future villains failed. He deceived everyone into thinking he was the reasonable authority figure and strike when their guards were down.
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Is the novel fully translated or just summaries?
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>>160738650
Almost fully translated.
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>>160737028
Does that mean this book, or does it mean this is the last series of books?
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>>160730783
He cant die and taste the sweet release of Death.
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>>160739166
>Aizen claims being able to die is great
>makes himself immortal

Good, consistent characterization there.
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>>160731944
Like Aizen's totally forgetable dick?
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>>160731312

I think Yhwach wanted to fuse both the human world and the spiritual world into one, perhaps if you died you would just reform into your spiritual form.

The way Aizen talks, life would continue after Yhwach changed things, only it would be very different, and there would be no need for the shinigamis either.

This also could be a bad thing, death is a thing to be feared to be sure, but for some people death means release from the pain, living in a world where you can never die and never escape your suffering would be its own kind of hell.
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>>160739265
He makes himself immortal then says dying would be okay later on. I guess spending a couple years in the darkness of muken gave him time to think.
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what happened to Mayuri's arrancars?
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>>160739351
>living in a world where you can never die and never escape your suffering

How can people escape their suffering when the afterlife is complete shit in the Bleachverse?
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>Disrespecting a deceased woman he loved
>Disrespecting his deceased best friend

Can Shunsui please be the one to kill Tokinada?
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>>160739684
It's either him, Hisagi, or Hikone going traitor that will kill him. Or maybe Shunsui AND Hisagi tag team him.
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>>160739684
Shunsui has lost so much in his life

>Lost his brother
>Lost the woman he loved
>Lost Yamamoto
>Lost Ukitake

Had he lost Nanao, I have no doubt in my mind he probably would have given up on life entirely
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>>160739880
>>160739684
Honestly what? Shunsui didn't love Nanaos mother.
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>>160739639

Even in the afterlife you can still "die" and go on to reincarnate as another human, the only ones who get to live forever free from the cycle of reincarnation are the shinigamis.

In the word of Yhwach even reincarnation would not exist.
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>>160739999
He clearly loved for her

Hell it was because of her that his relationship with his brother got better
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>>160740157
Nice headcanon.
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>>160740529
>Nice facts.

Fixed it for ya
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If those spoilers are true, then they're the most stupid possible explanation they could have given to the SK, Hollows and Ichibei. It kinda makes me wish they stopped doing more novels, if only to prevent Bleach's corpse from being shat on.
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>>160740102
Awesome. So you can cycle around the shitty worlds.
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Why the fuck is Ichibei such a dick? Also is it ever explained where he comes from? Like was he a captain that got promoted ?
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>>160740656
Literally proves nothing. Nice headcanon.
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>>160740897
Proves he had love for her, whether it was romantic or not is an entirely different ball park

Here's your (You) though
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>>160740157
So is Nanao truly the niece of Shunsui?
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>>160729418
Yes, during the Gin and Rangiku flashback Gin mentions that she passed out because she has powers.
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>Aizen willingly goes back to jail for 20000 years
>gets stronger
>is freed after doing his time
>nobody can stop him anymore
>he finally achieves his dream of being on top of everything
Reminder that at the end, Good will triumph over Evil.
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>>160740751
They aren't true.
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Did Rangiku ever got her thing back?
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>>160740952
Exactly. You can love someone, but not be in love with them. It's that simple. Thanks for agreeing.
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>>160738984
Series. We know that a 2nd vol is due out on winter.
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>>160740751
Protip: Bleach should have ended after Aizen.
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>>160741031
>he finally achieves his dream of being on top of Ichigo
ftfy
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So assuming those spoilers are fake, what do we actually know about the original sin, if anything?
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>>160741473
It has something to do with the noble houses.
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>>160739880
He hates that everyone entrusted something important to him and then die.

He absolutely cannot lose Nanao-chan as well.
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>>160729711
This fangirl bought 6 copies
https://twitter.com/syu_moe69/status/893662381338906625

And made lots of pics of Shuuhei with her self insert.
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>>160743824
What is the japs' reaction so far?
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>>160723701
Wish this was true, I always thought that Barragan was wasted potential as he could be the key to the history of Hueco Mundo, being potentially the only Hollow old enough to remember the world before it was corrupted.
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>>160723736
The databook is full of bullshit claims like this one, which was taken word by word from what Aizen said about Arroniero being the only Gillian as if it meant the rest were VL.
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So how many o you guys can't really care this much for the novel because of the epilogue/WDkAKY? I mean, we know that nothing significant will happen outside of maybe HM, no one will die outside o maybe quincy who were already dead before the start of the story, we'll enter 10 years of peace after Tokinada is taken down etc. I don't really see anyone aside of Hisagi really developing from it, and even him likely not that much.
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>>160743824
would/10
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>>160743824
Don Kanonji wasn't popular enough to have some cover, or illustration in color, in the novels Spirits Are Forever With You, even though he was the protagonist. He doesn't have fangirls. It's a pity,
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>>160741031
I was on the fence before but after reading this novel's summaries I am thoroughly convinced now that this entire manga was about Good vs. Evil with the perspectives flipped. We didn't know we were cheering for the bad side until it was too late. Up to Deicide, I saw Aizen as this insane omnicidal god complex villain and was rooting for Ichigo to stop him. But Aizen winning there was the best chance of having the corrupt system be destroyed and Ichigo ruined it all. If Aizen got to the SK palace and killed that little shit Ichibe and freed SK from his pain the world would be a much better place by now. Holy shit, reading this makes me regret ever rooting for Ichigo's side back then. Aizen should have won.
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>>160727352
How did Byakuya react to Tsunayashiro talking shit
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>>160720336
do the novels have any relation to Shonen Jump now? Legally is the series still going to be connected to it from now on or is Kubo free to continue the series on his own terms?
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>>160721315
I never read novels, I'll read them when I learn Japanese otherwise I won't bother.
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>>160727630
He never wanted anything for himself, which made him a non-character, not even not wanting anything for himself in the cool way like Kotomine from Fate, he was just genuinley to boring to be his own character.
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>>160747961
The novels are published by jump-J-books that it belongs to Shueisha, and Shonen Jump belongs to Shueisha too.
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>>160747961
Jump j-books who publishes the novels is also a Shueisha company, they still own the rights
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>>160746197
If you think it's a pity why don't you become Don's fangirl yourself
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WAIT is this novel or a confirmes future one gonna tell us about HELL
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>>160748332
Because I like the character and I'd want that he had a cover in the novels where he is a protagonist. It's a pity that he didn't have a cover (not that he doesn't have fangirls), probably because he is not popular, unlike Hisagi, it shouldn't mind that he is popular to get a cover in novels where he is relevant
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>>160748520
I like hi too, but I think that using covers for the only two major characters whose looks we didn't know was a good idea.
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>>160735338
After the first time there was no threat.
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>>160748038
Ichigo is a massive shitter. I never realized this before.
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>>160727960
>>160732452
>When did you fall under the impression that Bleach has ended?
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>revisiting old Burichi stuff and remember how invested I was in it
It's a layered feeling.
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>>160749956
He's hot.
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Sells at the end of next week?
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>>160735273
>Embodiment of Apophis
I remember that card
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>>160748421
No.
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>>160750127

This chart is of course wrong, because the "Zangetsu" that Ichigo gains after shattered shaft is pretty week overall and is incapable of cutting Zaraki. Furthermore, the blade itself breaks under Zaraki's real pressure. The base that forged it was not the hollow, but something else; and that something else is the remnants of Rukia's blade.

Noted here: >>160725042. When this blade breaks, Ywach's shadow enters, gives Ichigo an asuachi in the inner world and reveals Zangetsu to him. Then tests him to awaken the instinct to forge Zangetsu and manifest it in real life. Which Ichigo passes, and does. Zaraki is greatly confused by this for a moment, because until that time, Ichigo was on the ground bleeding out. His spiritual energy was nearly gone and his soul had almost expired; only to suddenly bounce back eclipsing all previous strength indicators. Further, with a single swing, not only was he not hurt by his own blade, his blade proceeded to cut Zaraki, who has been noted to have one of the strongest heirro's in canon.
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When Kubo wrote this, did he already know that there will be a novel in which major shit goes down in SS within those 10 years?
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>>160748038
>He never wanted anything for himself, which made him a non-character
That's bullshit. What he wanted for himself was the power to protect those he cared for and those in front of him that were in danger. This is motivated out of his sense of survivor's guilt from his mother sacrificing herself to save him from the Hollow Grand Fisher when he was still just a boy. You bring up Kirei from Fate/stay night to accuse Ichigo of being a non-character, but ironically Ichigo's motivations and background are not too different from Shirou. How about you actually read the manga next time you try to shit on it dumbass?
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>>160727960
Anyone have any ideas to finish it?
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>people think the anime isn't coming back
The reason the anime ended was because it caught up to the manga and they didn't want to pull a Nardo and have years of filler episodes. The anime never resumed during the final arc because the nature of the arc prevented any kind of side adventures from happening so if the anime had caught up to the manga again it would've been forced to do reruns or some completely unrelated dumb filler. Kubo was planning to draw the manga for a lot longer but then starts developing health issues and decides to call it quits and so the manga suddenly ended a little less than a year ago. The series is not dead yet, as evidenced by all the novels, the game and the live action adaptation. I'm expecting to hear from the anime around the time the movie comes out, maybe slightly after it so the movie can be used to gauge interest in the series. Pierrot has also been busy with stuff like Naruto/Boruto and now Black Clover but that stuff should sort itself out sometime next year as well.
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>>160754435
Most of the things happening in the novel are all behind the scenes. The people involved are nobles, Kyoraku, squad 0, people who don't want anything to do with the seireitei like Kukaku and Ginjou, and other randoms. I wouldn't be surprised if most people don't find out about what's going on but we'll see.
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>>160755045
I'm liking how the novels get into the obviously important stuff that the manga never got around to, like the Shiba clan and Ukitake. I hope they also reveal the bankai of the zero squad. I'm still salty about how they were hyped up so much and then just instantly jobbed.
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>>160754529
Ichigo's just a dumb, shortsighted thug. His motivations are half-hearted and unimpressive.
>wants power to protect people
>eventually becomes incredibly powerful and does absolutely nothing with it that doesn't involve something in his immediate line of sight
>falls into depression whenever he can't beat a problem to death instead of even attempting to seek a solution that isn't direct violence
He's a run of the mill shonen protagonist. His motivation can be summed up as "leave me alone." That would be fine, but the first couple of arcs tricked me into thinking otherwise.
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>>160755830
I miss the Mexico edits.
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>>160756338
Ichigo never had any grand overarching goal. He didn't even want to become a soul reaper in the first place but he kept getting placed into situations where he had to act. His power was great but even still if you read the arrancar arc you would know that he kept getting btfo. Also soul reapers aren't exactly good guys. You really think he could've talked his way through soul society? Especially will people like Kenpachi and Ikkaku around. Then the arrancars that kept attacking his town and kidnapped his friend. Talking his way out of fighting Grimmjow who wanted prove himself or Ulquiorra who has a strong loyalty to Aizen would've been damn near impossible. Then his first contact with Aizen didn't exactly leave much time for conversation and when he meets Aizen again, he's killing all his acquaintances. What exactly were you expecting anyway?
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>>160756338

>everyone targeted him thinking he was a delinquent
>got good at fighting
>by the end of the story, his motivations and behaviors, are those of a delinquent

Maximum KUBO.
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>>160755803
I'm wondering if we'll see Hisagi's Bankai, I mean he is the MC of these novels.
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>>160758562
I generally miss Bleach having such a huge following that you would easily find actually thought-provoking theories, great doujinshi and fanarts and funny fanbase inside jokes
Fake Karakura Town arc was when Bleach started to consistently get irredeemably bad/stupid/boring, but at least it had entertaining surrounding material because of all the cute designs and hinted lore
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>>160754435
>Toshiro's surgical scars aren't shown in this panel, but his painkiller addiction is
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>>160732859
>>160732521
>>160728323
I'm both mad and intrigued that she just turned out to be an Aaronierro rehash. But I want to see her use The Love and The Power at the same time. Muscular apathetic love slave commanding loli best girl
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>>160758781
>killing
Aizen said he will kill only Yamamoto.
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>>160759526

>One Piece
>intensely detailed art
>intensely varied characters
>many lovable, many despicable

>Naruto
>highly detailed art
>highly varied characters
>they all pretty much fucking suck
>they mostly go nowhere
>by the end, no one gives a shit

>Bleach
>highly minimal art
>highly varied characters
>many are memorable, many are not
>some achieve what they started out to do, many don't
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>>160759526
Nice nitpicking. HM is suppose to an isolate world so it's fit.
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>>160761424
>being this assblasted at an old harmless joke picture
It's a meme you dips
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>>160761878
>ywn scream KUBOOOO again
;_;
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>>160763015
Wanna bet?
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>>160761082
Yeah, he said he would only kill Yamamoto but do you not remember him slashing every one right in front of Ichigo as soon as he shows up to FKT.
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>>160763379
Most people only care about Rukia.
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>>160763743
Nah, the nips like the shinigami in general. Sure she along with Toshiro and Byakuya are undoubtedly the most popular, but that doesn't mean the others aren't popular in their own right. Especially since this was back during the second arc when Toshiro won first place in the popularity poll.
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>>160763999
Well no one cares about what they care about.
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>>160724024
That'd help explain a lot. Hopefully the real spoilers talk about her.
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>>160764086
There are no real spoilers. The novel ends on the same part of the released preview which means we got no new info with the physical copy. Also those spoilers posted above are obviously completely fake since like I said we got no new info.
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>>160764086
>That'd help explain a lot.
How?
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>>160764512
What part do you not understand?
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>>160764512
N E G A L
R U I N S
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>>160765013
Ruins what?
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>>160722100
>>160722136
>>160722182
>people still don't understand this info is fake
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>>160765161
They know.
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>>160765050
It's this place ancient place in Hueco Mundo where Urahara was stationed at with Orihime and Chad in the manga, it was said to look manmade in the novel.
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Bleach Next Generations soon.
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>>160765050
One day.
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>>160765306
no thanks
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>>160765306
It's already out. It's called Black Torch. With an MC that looks like he's the child of the proper endgame pairing.
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>>160765306
Stop getting my hopes up.
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>>160765383
>Ichirukifag still this bitter
Holy fuck. Almost a whole year, and you guys are still at it.
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>>160765490
Sorry that IchiHime is still shit.
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>>160765564
>Ichirukifag calling Ichihime shit
I have never come across a bigger meme pairing than Ichiruki.

>muh black moon/white sun
>muh she stopped the rain
>muh colorspreads
>muh fillers
>muh merch
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My ship didn't become canon too, but I'm not bitching about it.
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>>160765745
Don't forget shojo bubbles and stickers.
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>>160765745
OK, fuck, this artwork is cute.
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>Ichirukifags are still mad and will likely eternally be
What a time to be alive.
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>>160765383
>With a female lead that looks like she's the child of the proper endgame pairing.

Fixed that for you.
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>>160766461
I've been on these boards for a long time. It was pretty great to watch the shippers slowly lose faith. I think the first time IchiRuki shippers lost genuine faith was the irreplaceable nakama posters.
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>>160768762
I remember those threads. They kept trying to make up excuses as to why Orihime got "love and friendship" on her page and how it means nothing.
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>>160766461
Ofc I will be eternally mad, why shouldn't I?
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>>160769099
There was even some dumblr irfag that pretends to speak nip when it's obvious they can't who tried to make it look like lightverse on dumblr (who translated the stuff on those pages) was an anti-irfag and was twisting what it said on the Ichigo, Rukia and Renji page.
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>>160769217
Don't ship a meme pairing next time.
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>>160769099
I remember ESL-kun in those threads. He tried to show the IR fags the light, they all ignored him.
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>>160769502
IRfags should've seen the light when Kuo stated in the interview their relationship wasn't romantic. It's their fault.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-u3fkgZkO0
Still the best OP for me. Not the best from a musical standpoint nor had it the best videoclip, but it just gives me chills and encapsulates the feeling of being 17 to me
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>>160767763
I find it weird that Bleach Ichika will grow up to be tsundere just like Black Torch Ichika even though Bleach Ichika showed up before Black Torch Ichika did.
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>>160766461
The first anniversary of Bleach ending and final chapter in a couple of weeks.

>>160768762
Which posters were that? I only remember things getting worse and worse for them when Ichigo and Inoue tag teamed Yhwach.
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>>160765383
I just read the 6 chapters of it and its fucking trash. Why would you lie anon?
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>>160761878

I dare say this: >>160725042, >>160725084
, and >>160725132
; all qualify as level 9.
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>>160769217
Back to Bleachasylum you go Saiyan
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>>160772322
>and its fucking trash.
You're bigger fucking trash.
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>>160761100
Kubo's art is still the best when it comes to the characters and attacks. I rather see that than beat my dick to backgrounds and landscapes.
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>>160774543
His weapons/powers are the best imo as well

If you asked if I wanted a Devil fruit, Jutsu or a Zanpakuto then I'm clearly choosing the Zanpakuto
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>>160774543
I agree.
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>>160774605
His art and character design is simply one of its kind.

I'm also glad that a large majority of his cast is able to actually develop and learn or at least realize their mistakes instead of taking ten steps back like everyone in Naruto.
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>>160774730
Source
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>>160767763
>>160769872
Bleach Ichika better hope that this is untrue and that Renji's genes have big tits in it if she wants to grow up like Black Torch Ichika.
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>>160720336
So uh, Kubo is now novelist?
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>>160776139
https://mobile.twitter.com/b00_br/status/893976269389316096
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>>160774730
>Orihime in Harribel's outfit
>Orihime in Soifon's outfit
Muh dick
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>>160776090
I still remember the cotton-eye Joe jokes when that was revealed.
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>>160765383
that shit is getting axed. its been ranking low on SQ since chapter 2
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>>160779470
But it's good.
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>>160770086
These posters. Rukia and Renji shared one while Orihime got her own.
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>>160779743
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>>160720336
Lets be honest here, Will there ever be another animation? they had been doing pretty well up until it went to shit after the soul society arc.
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>>160776090
>Dangai Joe

What exactly did this do for him?His bankai is the same except it has less armor so it has less defense.
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>>160780596
It and him were immortal for a limited time.
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>>160780505
The Hueco Mundo arc was pretty popular, but it all went to shit during the Fake Karakura town arc, the latter part anyway.

I firmly believe it would have done better had Kubo ANSWERED SOME FUCKING QUESTIONS that fans had been awaiting for years.

But we got a DuesExMachina Mugetsu
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Would you?
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>>160780851
I love Soi Fon!
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>>160779851
Is there a translation like the other one?
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>>160780995
Oh, didn't realize I posted the raw.
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Why can't we let go anons?
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>>160781204
Imagine a hot girl jerks you off for 10years straight and every time you're about to cum she goes to do something else.
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>>160781298
thats pretty hot desu
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Full artwork of Ichigo's new form when?
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>>160781204
I'm not sure but this probably isn't to far off.>>160781298
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>>160779699
It has nice art but is fucking boring.
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Having just read the novel summaries, it seems that Shunsui is the only one with some moral conscience in Bleach
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are the quincies going to be in the mobile game, because if so it gives me reason to boot it back up again. Jugram is a pretty man
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>>160784681
Here are the only confirmed TYBW characters as of now. 14 characters are planned for now, and people are speculating that they won't introduce anyone without an existing VA which technically doesn't rule out Yhwach
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>>160785008
>shinigamis only
OF COURSE
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>>160785008
RIP Yamamoto.
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>>160785008
>no rukia bankai form
>no renji bankai form
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>>160785621
14 are planned and I would bet that Ichigo, bankai Rukia and bankai Kenpachi are guaranteed to be among the not-yet-revealed 10.
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>>160781166
The tears, rage and delusions after this page got translated...
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>>160781166

What nothing said of Chad, the best character?
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>>160729266
and then everyone died anyway because communists are retarded
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>>160725042
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>>160787038
>We'll never get any alternate tales
>Like one where Ichigo never realized his true power and instead mastered Rukias
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>>160746358
Aizen achieving his goals and becoming the soul king is like trump winning the presidency. It is NOT a goodguy winning. It's just trading evil for evil.
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I miss aizen bros ;_;

Does it get any easier?
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>>160788020
Never
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>>160729779
conveniently misses the parts where he moves to kill his own subordinates or erases a man from existence
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>>160776090
it helps when mangastream isn't mangling his lineart. He had really distinct brushwork and a dynamic pen work among jump's lineup at the time that really well together. The rotation on his med nib is what gives it that change in thickness. It's evocative of the kind of flux you get with a brush when doing calligraphy, which is what makes his actual brush work with the big broad strokes on stuff like sound effects, title work, or in this case the big shinto shimenawa ropes look so at home. He's certainly not the only artist to do it broadly speaking but the distinct japanese aesthetic of the zapakutou and shihakusho and various shikai and bankai motifs really benefits from it.
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>>160780851
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>>160788492
I genuinely really like Kubos artwork. I just wish he didn't go through the typical strain and end up sick and with medical issues because of the crazy schedule. Also he has the same problem as a lot of artists. IE sameface.
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>>160739880
Lisa is still around
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>>160788565
>That Piccolo rapeface.
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>>160780851
>>160788529
>Sorry Soi-Fon. Just because I'm a cat, doesn't mean I like tuna.
What did she mean by this?
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>>160785008
>won't introduce anyone without an existing VA
oh shit, i hadn't thought of that. that's a good point. So who does that really leave as an option?
1 Byakuya
2 Hitsugaya -adult bankai
3 Komamura -dangai joue
4 Shunsui -bankai
5 Ichigo -at least one if not a few
6 Rukia -bankai
7 Renji -new bankai
8 Urahara -with bankai
9 Yoruichi -thundergodmode
10 Unohana -killmode
11 Zaraki -unnamed bankai
12 Yachiru -with shikai ...maybe?
13 Uryuu -sternriter uniform
14 ???
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>>160788565
I'm actually fairly convinced that Kubo's sameface issue is self inflicted. Look at all his side characters over the years and you'll notice he loves drawing random goons and villains with ugly or deformed faces and he really goes out of his way to not just have them appear and be unique looking by design, but really find excuses to have them be expressive and weird. I think he really prefers less conventionally attractive characters, but he knows he can't get away with not having some generic shounen archetypes in the spotlight. I think he very intentionally uses the same 3 or 4 male lead faces because he knows they'll be well received. Like, Renji, Grimmjow, and Bazz-B all being practically identical (same with Byakuya, Ulquiorra, and Juugram) seems less like a failed attempt at creativity and more like him going down a checklist of fan bait.
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>>160788936
he even did it in Zombie Powder. the whole core cast was almost nondescript facially but all the background characters were actually pretty distinct
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>>160788668
Rose went bankai and then Grimm, Nel, Riruka and others showed up. A character changing attire is more than enough reason for Klab to put out a new version.
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>>160780851
>>160788529
I would any Soi Fon.
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>>160788492
spilled ink jokes aside, there are definitely times when Kubo made the giant swatches of solid black look pretty good
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>>160789206
Not if I get her first.
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>>160728433
in the original draft of Bleach it was implied there existed different Soul Societies as Rukia mentioned she was from the Far East Branch of the Soul Society.
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is there ANYONE who actually fucking cares
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>>160779743
>even the official poster has to desperately try to wedge Renji into Rukia's story
>"Hey, r-remember that one time Renji sort of helped too, after Ichigo rescued her?"
Sad
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>>160789926
none
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>>160788659

The best woman in all of Bleach. And bestest onee-san.
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>>160790214
Best at being worst.
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>>160787038
KUBOOOOOOOO
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>>160786070
I'll never forget all of the irreplaceable nakama posts. Those were good times.
>>160786117
He's a boxer, anon. That's all we need to know.
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>>160788936
>Renji, Grimmjow, and Bazz-B all being practically identical
Not, they have different eyeshape and eyebrows, at least Renji
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>>160789957
>even the official poster has to desperately try to wedge Renji into Rukia's story
Renji an Rukia have a history of many years. Ichigo and Rukia's relationship history is of a few months
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>>160787754
Oh, just fuck off to wherever your safe space is.
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>>160788020
I miss him too
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>>160788159
He only slashed Harribel, which saved her actually. And he warned the guy to not get any closer.
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>>160791595
Kubo bothers to make different eyeshape and eyebrows for many of his characters, apart, of course, of different hairstyles, and he also bothers to make different body types. Of course, with so many characters, some are going to share some characteristics, but with drawings you can't do much more to differenciate the characters. What he should do is more different face shapes, because he do usually uses the same, except with some characters
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>>160788492
Indeed.
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>>160788668
Muken Aizen
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>>160727025
He's hot.
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>>160788936
Time constraints also. It's faster that way.
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Do you think this is legit?
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New thread:
>>160792453
>>160792453
>>160792453
>>160792453
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>>160792083
Kubo drew the characters more carefully before, so the different details of each one were noticed more and made them more different. People started to complain of same face around the Hueco Mundo arc, not before
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>>160781166
I still had a little hope after this, all because of Urahara's "last words." Got Kubo'd...
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>>160727025
What a lewd image.
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>>160792594
But his words didn't imply anything romantic
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>>160792735
I know, but I was expecting at least some sort of tag team.
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>>160792766
She is useless though.
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