Who is the best sword and shield user in anime?
please. any anime character with a sword is either dual wielding or two handing a big sword. japan hates shields
Lu Meng was notably illiterate and a slightly above average officer (clever and witty in his own rights, but ultimately suffered from his lack of education) until about nine years before his invasion of Jing.
Fighting choreography is entertaining when it's like a dance rather than a realistic fight.
It's the same reason why spears aren't used unless they're bladed in such a way to allow slashing.
Slashes and parries = entertaining fight
stab spamming and effortless blocking with shields = boring fight.
So, you're saying that in the real world, its more likely that people use long stabby things with a shield instead of two handed slashy things or dual slashy things?
How will I enjoy things now?
In most wars spears and shields were preferable to swords because humans are in fact not like anime where they could stay calm and collective and not care about injury risks.
The reality was being a pussy and spamming stabs with your spears while hiding behind a shield.
Swords were just flashy dance weapons for killing peasants. They were also expensive as shit. I mean they were great weapons and some swords like middle eastern curved swords were amazing mounted weapons, but most soldiers preferred a bit of distance.
My problem with those spear tricks like those tiny rapid parries is it's just the opponents trying to almost gently knock the spear out of the others path so they can go in for the thrust. It doesn't come off as a genuine form of parry which you get from sword combat.
Hime from YZQ's ultimate power is the dragon lance, although most of the time she is just using a staff. That's honestly the only one I can think of. It's a shame, I love polearms.
Also those shoujou with a knight side character guardian, there's like three of them now... Prince arslan senki or whatever was the first now there's like three faggot shows like that.
This mother fucker right here. He won the day against a threat powerful enough to defeat the gods.
I don't get it.
They're using poles with no spearhead.
They're mostly doing slashing motion rather than stabbing motion.
See me after class.
Honestly the first season sucked a lot worse. It was "Lol so random comedie" until the end when the stakes were raised. If you were a fan of guys going into the girls' bath house then I can see that the second season with its ever increasing threats to the party was not your style. However, for those watching it as a drama it really exceeded expectations and had quite a good payoff in the end.
Speaking of swords, I see the assertion a lot in this thread that it is only useful for killing peasants. But what about a situation where you have 2v2 or something similar. A polearm ins't going to be so useful since somebody can bumrush you and fuck you up. Would not a sword be the way to go here since it has capabilities both offensive and defensive?
Swords being expensive is more of an early medieval thing. When metallurgy became more advanced making swords became also significantly cheaper. Also it was not a matter of using either swords or pole-arms, in most cases people who used pole-arms also had a sword by their side because obviously a situation may arise where a pole-arm is the worse choice, e.g. when the formation breaks or is unluckily flanked, etc.
Swords are sidearms. Spears/polearms are preferred since longer reach fucks your enemy while not getting your ass fucked. Even in a 2v2 scenario ones with longer pointy stick has better chances of winning.
Motoyasu unlocks a cursed spear that has both the envy and lust series weapons power in it. It gives him a big power boost and it can amplify the feelings of lust and envy on people. He manages to overpower naofumi's inner wrath for a moment even!
>needing a sword when your shield can do better and more than a sword
I remember dropping this shit because of how offensively bad it was. Like it wasn't "so bad it's good" kind of bad, it was just plain awful. No idea why people are even hyped about this pos getting an anime.
That's most swords in anime though, they alternate between one and two handed whenever they feel like it.
The point is that Parn rarely ever actually used his shield in combat.
Sorry. I thought you were talking about Nao, the last posted character. I'm actually at episode 20 of Log Horizon.
About Parn. He never had a shield. Seriously, look at google images. But its accurate, because if you're wearing an armor, shields become redundant. You can still use a buckler to parry.
That statement is highly exaggerated. Swords have always played a big part in battles throughout the history. Otherwise, they wouldn't be used often enough to evolve at the rate they did.
Polearm was the default weapon of choice, being easier to use, as anyone can just stab, and cheap to make. A basic spear is essentially an upgrade of a pitchfork. They were basic, but useful. Where they failed, however, was against shields and armor, and if someone got close. Any of those things meant death. That's why many kept swords as sidearm. Swords, especially the typical longsword, is an extremely versatile weapon suited for many situation. Different swords had different roles, for example, a Falchion would be useful against mail, the curved blade on horseback, and the rapiers against plate armor. They lacked a polearm range, but beyond that, they were great. Useful in almost every situation. Just that in a normal situation, a polearm is preferred to a sword.
It's important to narrow down "polearm" to something useful. You can wield a spear onehanded but you need two hands for a halberd. You can smash armor with a polehammer but can't even scratch it with a hunting spear.
Yeah, but I'm only really talking about the basic spear and shield. Once you diverge into halberds and polehammers, the effectiveness begins to go down. Sure, a polehammer might break armor, but against the very basic soldier, someone with a spear, it's nothing special. A swing from a heavy polehammer is going to take longer to swing, wide swings are easier to dodge and a smaller swing can still be blocked with a shield before it gains momentum to avoid taking much damage. During any of that, the spearman can just stab.
I'm not downplaying the long reach, but those polearms are not as effective in a more general situation. Especially anything that forced you to drop your shield. They become very situational weapons.
This is your shield user for tonight, say something nice to her.
>first pick paladin because magic and honor
>second pick water because hydro pumps, tsunamis, walking on water and icicles
>can't do any of those
>third choice white knight because white best color
After 80+ post, there's only three real sword and shield user here. I'm disappointed at you /a/.
Wagner - Not anime
Archer - No Shield
RX-78-2 - It's a giant fucking robot
That guy from Record of Lodoss War - No one uses a shield in that anime
Jil (Tower of Druaga) - I've never heard of this anime, it probably sucked
Naofumi Iwatani - Not Anime
Grunbeld - uses a hammer, not a sword
Roan from Ragnarok. A game based anime, not bad, but not great. Just a middle of the road fantasy anime.
Roan starts out as a typical sword user, but later changes class and starts using a shield. And it's fucking awesome.
Okay. Show us clip about his top tierness. I'm sure there's lots of it floating around youtube, if he really is what you say he is.
Oh, wait. I already checked. It all suck.
You're probably just a troll anyway.
The time he slayed a dragon or the time he took down an evil god guardian or when he saved the world. Youtube clips aren't watching an anime and seeing the character develop from a weak ass bitch to a legendary hero. I took your shitty bait now post your smug anime girl reply.
Thanks for your addition.
I remember dropping this anime.
Yeah...let's just say, "good" characters in bad anime is better off forgotten. I'm sure everyone agrees to that.
What do you call this archetype?
We need more characters with some big ass maces. Fuck swords, they're useless against decent armor; blunt force trauma solves all issues
Surprised this wasn't posted sooner considering how popular it's gotten.
The plot evolved very nicely after the first few volumes, there was a lot of character and background development and other stuff like that, the ending was also pretty nice, if you like happy endings.
Not anime, but the fight between Hector and Achilles in Troy has great and entertaining fight coreography and they use mostly spear and shiled.
It's just lack of creativity and effort, really.
She forgot her shield in her world though.
The best swordman and the best sword at once.
You're fucking joking right?
Literally the first random names that my brain came up with
>Legends/tales: Sun Wukong
>Manga/anime: Ushio from Ushio to Tora
>History: Greeks, Romans
>Videogames: Gilgamesh, Kain from Final Fantasy
Right I forgot about that, yes at least the WN version was worth reading for me, I read it 3 times or so, I may give it another read when the LN is done.
>spear hero spinoff
On my way.