Who is the best sword and shield user in anime?

>>160698801
Swords are for nerds, polearm superior weapon.

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Wagner

>>160698835
Oh yeah? Well, how come there's no MC, real or fictional uses this "polearm" as a main weapon.

Swords 1
Polearms 0

>>160699021
Do you even Guan Yu?

>>160699069
Who gives a rat's ass about that blithering dumbass?
Lost to a country bumpkin, no less.

>>160699505
Different anon here, don't care much for Guan Yu, but 1000 years ago EVERYBODY was a country bumpkin.

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>>160698801
>GAY BULGE!
>ROUGE ANUS!

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>anime characters
>using shields
please. any anime character with a sword is either dual wielding or two handing a big sword. japan hates shields

>>160699804
Nobody likes shields because they don't make a good looking fight. It' a lot more aesthetically pleasing to parry.

Why the fuck do the nips hate shields?
Even in stuff about medieval europe or fantasy stuff with a european setting you never see shields or soldiers locking shields together.

>>160699990
It's not that they hate shields, shields were just never a huge part of their martial tradition.

>>160699705
Lu Meng was notably illiterate and a slightly above average officer (clever and witty in his own rights, but ultimately suffered from his lack of education) until about nine years before his invasion of Jing.

>>160699990
Fighting choreography is entertaining when it's like a dance rather than a realistic fight.

It's the same reason why spears aren't used unless they're bladed in such a way to allow slashing.

Slashes and parries = entertaining fight
stab spamming and effortless blocking with shields = boring fight.

>>160698907
Wagner is the cutest Inbirth

>>160699990
Western media has this problem too actually. Shields just look less cool despite their practicality

>>160699854
Also 1000xfolded steel somehow doesn't chip when you parry 20+ times in a single fight.

>>160700694
Because sword fights are inherently unrealistic in the first place. Swords are for poking peasants and HONARABU duels of 1-2 slashes before someone dies/injured heavily.

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>>160700270
So, you're saying that in the real world, its more likely that people use long stabby things with a shield instead of two handed slashy things or dual slashy things?

How will I enjoy things now?

>tfw Cap Murrika in anime
Fuck I want him to use FINAL JUSTICE

>>160700270
I see your post and raise you literally anything done by Jackie Chan that contains spear-work.

It is literally a stab spam-fest and is also really fun to watch.

>>160700823
In most wars spears and shields were preferable to swords because humans are in fact not like anime where they could stay calm and collective and not care about injury risks.

The reality was being a pussy and spamming stabs with your spears while hiding behind a shield.

Swords were just flashy dance weapons for killing peasants. They were also expensive as shit. I mean they were great weapons and some swords like middle eastern curved swords were amazing mounted weapons, but most soldiers preferred a bit of distance.

>>160698801
Not someone from that SAO shit, that's for sure

>>160700985
My problem with those spear tricks like those tiny rapid parries is it's just the opponents trying to almost gently knock the spear out of the others path so they can go in for the thrust. It doesn't come off as a genuine form of parry which you get from sword combat.

>>160699854
>Implying
Shield bashes are sexy, nips just have shit taste as usual.

>>160701054
Calm down. He's from the first half.

You're already an anon, there's no real need to try to fit in here.

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>>160699021
sup

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Do Gundams count? If so, then RX-78-2.

>>160700985
Time to end this and drop the atom bomb of spear choreography.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U6_Qk_Q2oU

>>160698801
Probably that guy from Record of Lodoss War.

>>160699021
Hime from YZQ's ultimate power is the dragon lance, although most of the time she is just using a staff. That's honestly the only one I can think of. It's a shame, I love polearms.

>>160701542
Also those shoujou with a knight side character guardian, there's like three of them now... Prince arslan senki or whatever was the first now there's like three faggot shows like that.

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Obligatory shieldpost

>>160699990
There are a few animes like Absolute Duo where the main character uses only a shield.

>>160701542
The Major's adventures in rice land.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1CpCfSEHo

>>160701947
Shield Bro getting animated soon.

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This mother fucker right here. He won the day against a threat powerful enough to defeat the gods.

>>160702043
Pile driver shield is best shield

>>160702068
I would have to agree. For a tank it is almost vital.

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>>160701820
I don't get it.
They're using poles with no spearhead.
They're mostly doing slashing motion rather than stabbing motion.

F-
See me after class.

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>>160698801
>sao

>>160700270
>what is Moribito

>>160698835
this fucking guy appears every time

>>160702043
>>160702068
>>160702086
Why the fuck did the second season suck so hard?

>>160702380
Honestly the first season sucked a lot worse. It was "Lol so random comedie" until the end when the stakes were raised. If you were a fan of guys going into the girls' bath house then I can see that the second season with its ever increasing threats to the party was not your style. However, for those watching it as a drama it really exceeded expectations and had quite a good payoff in the end.

>>160702027
How hype are ya

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You wouldn't use this kinda spear would you?

>>160702357
Sorry, he's an escapee from /tg/. He shitposts all the time and hangs out in /orsg/.

>>160703251
why not? you're using it to slay enemies, not to ask the girl of your dreams to a dance.

>>160700988
An arrow cost as much as a lance. If it were a good arrow that is. Or even a shitty one used at Agincourt.

Speaking of swords, I see the assertion a lot in this thread that it is only useful for killing peasants. But what about a situation where you have 2v2 or something similar. A polearm ins't going to be so useful since somebody can bumrush you and fuck you up. Would not a sword be the way to go here since it has capabilities both offensive and defensive?

>>160703251
context?

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>>160700988
Swords being expensive is more of an early medieval thing. When metallurgy became more advanced making swords became also significantly cheaper. Also it was not a matter of using either swords or pole-arms, in most cases people who used pole-arms also had a sword by their side because obviously a situation may arise where a pole-arm is the worse choice, e.g. when the formation breaks or is unluckily flanked, etc.

>>160704200
Swords are sidearms. Spears/polearms are preferred since longer reach fucks your enemy while not getting your ass fucked. Even in a 2v2 scenario ones with longer pointy stick has better chances of winning.

>>160704250
Spear hero wants to dick bird loli, but she's creeped out. So he falls into lust and unlocks the dick spear.

>>160704250
Motoyasu unlocks a cursed spear that has both the envy and lust series weapons power in it. It gives him a big power boost and it can amplify the feelings of lust and envy on people. He manages to overpower naofumi's inner wrath for a moment even!

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>>160704917
And the shield is protecting naofumi (and us) from the tip of the spear. which is shaped as you would expect

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>needing a sword when your shield can do better and more than a sword

>>160705089
To be honest the sword can actually grow to be the most powerful. if you're willing to put the effort though

>>160704200
>all these guys with shields and pikes
>1 guy decides to use a gigantic mace that smashes your shield and breaks your arm in one hit

>>160705361
I always forget that maces exist. Excellent weapon for excellent people.

>>160705361
If it was truly gigantic would it not just crush the person entirely instead of just a shield and an arm?

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>>160705089
I remember dropping this shit because of how offensively bad it was. Like it wasn't "so bad it's good" kind of bad, it was just plain awful. No idea why people are even hyped about this pos getting an anime.

>>160705361
mah nigga

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The Tankiest

>>160707059
Fullplate Mail
Tower shield
Broad Sword

If he got a full helmet, and some stat boosting rings and amulets, I'd main him in Diablo.

>>160701865
How many times did Parn actually use his shield? I can't actually think of any fights where he didn't just two-hand his sword.

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>>160708706
His sword is one-handed.

>>160708830
That's most swords in anime though, they alternate between one and two handed whenever they feel like it.

The point is that Parn rarely ever actually used his shield in combat.

>>160700871
Ever hear of DISK WARS?

>>160698835
I miss Grimgar threads.

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>>160708706
>>160708866
Sorry. I thought you were talking about Nao, the last posted character. I'm actually at episode 20 of Log Horizon.

About Parn. He never had a shield. Seriously, look at google images. But its accurate, because if you're wearing an armor, shields become redundant. You can still use a buckler to parry.

>>160705781

it's always like this with shitty isekai novels

>>160698801
well at the very least not that loser

>>160704200
That statement is highly exaggerated. Swords have always played a big part in battles throughout the history. Otherwise, they wouldn't be used often enough to evolve at the rate they did.

Polearm was the default weapon of choice, being easier to use, as anyone can just stab, and cheap to make. A basic spear is essentially an upgrade of a pitchfork. They were basic, but useful. Where they failed, however, was against shields and armor, and if someone got close. Any of those things meant death. That's why many kept swords as sidearm. Swords, especially the typical longsword, is an extremely versatile weapon suited for many situation. Different swords had different roles, for example, a Falchion would be useful against mail, the curved blade on horseback, and the rapiers against plate armor. They lacked a polearm range, but beyond that, they were great. Useful in almost every situation. Just that in a normal situation, a polearm is preferred to a sword.

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>>160698835

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>>160698801

>>160698801
this guy would be pretty close if only he didn't fucking cheat like a bitch

>>160709423
It's important to narrow down "polearm" to something useful. You can wield a spear onehanded but you need two hands for a halberd. You can smash armor with a polehammer but can't even scratch it with a hunting spear.

>>160710413
Yeah, but I'm only really talking about the basic spear and shield. Once you diverge into halberds and polehammers, the effectiveness begins to go down. Sure, a polehammer might break armor, but against the very basic soldier, someone with a spear, it's nothing special. A swing from a heavy polehammer is going to take longer to swing, wide swings are easier to dodge and a smaller swing can still be blocked with a shield before it gains momentum to avoid taking much damage. During any of that, the spearman can just stab.

I'm not downplaying the long reach, but those polearms are not as effective in a more general situation. Especially anything that forced you to drop your shield. They become very situational weapons.

I mean, Grunbeld has a shield...

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>>160700871
This is your shield user for tonight, say something nice to her.

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>>160709632
>long reach
Every time.

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>>160709632
>first pick paladin because magic and honor
>can't fuck
>fuck
>second pick water because hydro pumps, tsunamis, walking on water and icicles
>can't do any of those
>third choice white knight because white best color

Fuck you.

>>160701820
>> spear
It's an entertaining fight though.

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After 80+ post, there's only three real sword and shield user here. I'm disappointed at you /a/.

Finalists:
Heathcliff
Joey Wheeler
Naotsugu

Disqualified:
Wagner - Not anime
Archer - No Shield
RX-78-2 - It's a giant fucking robot
That guy from Record of Lodoss War - No one uses a shield in that anime
Jil (Tower of Druaga) - I've never heard of this anime, it probably sucked
Naofumi Iwatani - Not Anime
Grunbeld - uses a hammer, not a sword

>>160713122
Just because you've never heard of it does not disqualify Jil from being a top tier sword and shield user. If anything it just disqualifies your opinion.

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Roan from Ragnarok. A game based anime, not bad, but not great. Just a middle of the road fantasy anime.
Roan starts out as a typical sword user, but later changes class and starts using a shield. And it's fucking awesome.

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>>160699804
Oh yeah?

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>>160713272
Okay. Show us clip about his top tierness. I'm sure there's lots of it floating around youtube, if he really is what you say he is.

Oh, wait. I already checked. It all suck.

You're probably just a troll anyway.

>>160713637
The time he slayed a dragon or the time he took down an evil god guardian or when he saved the world. Youtube clips aren't watching an anime and seeing the character develop from a weak ass bitch to a legendary hero. I took your shitty bait now post your smug anime girl reply.

>>160713412
Thank you for reminding me of my worst anime experience of the mid 2000s. That fucking opening almost made my ears bleed.

>>160710899
He couldn't even kill a lowly human with his hammer and shield before discarding them and transforming.

>>160713412
>but not great.
you must suffer from deafness. Although I must admit the OP and ED are only for patrician tastes.

>>160713122
>shield hero not anime
Oh, he will be.

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>>160713412
Thanks for your addition.

I remember dropping this anime.

Yeah...let's just say, "good" characters in bad anime is better off forgotten. I'm sure everyone agrees to that.

>>160714882
Oh, the character isn't particularly good. It's boring. Only the shield is awesome.

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the sexiest

>>160705781
To fair im split 50/50 on the idea of an anime even though i love the series. Considering what hapens to popular shit on /a/

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>>160709632
Pimpknight all the way

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>>160715209

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>>160702000
The Major
Balsa
Mari Kusakabe

What do you call this archetype?

>>160715974
Maternal I guess.

>>160698801
Definitely not this guy. He is a cheater.

>>160715974
MILF?

We need more characters with some big ass maces. Fuck swords, they're useless against decent armor; blunt force trauma solves all issues

>>160720270
Surprised this wasn't posted sooner considering how popular it's gotten.

>>160720500
not anime

>>160720549
I figured manga was more or less implied to be ok.

>>160705781
>>160709369
The plot evolved very nicely after the first few volumes, there was a lot of character and background development and other stuff like that, the ending was also pretty nice, if you like happy endings.

>>160720831
It lost all appeal when he started collecting his loli harem in full force. Would have been 100% better if it was just him and raccoon girl against the world.

>>160720831
You read the LN right

>>160700270
Not anime, but the fight between Hector and Achilles in Troy has great and entertaining fight coreography and they use mostly spear and shiled.

It's just lack of creativity and effort, really.

>>160720500
Maces?, what about flails?

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She forgot her shield in her world though.

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The best swordman and the best sword at once.

>>160721148
I thought so too, Raph is still best girl for me, but as the story progressed I started to like those other characters too.

>>160721244
Yes, the manga is still going, isn't it?

>>160713419
>No sword
what are you trying to prove here.

>>160721740
Yeah. i was a bit confused since you said it ended, but it hasn't ended yet. Perhaps you meant the WN? Also, spear hero spinoff is a thing so you should go read that.

>>160699021
You're fucking joking right?
Literally the first random names that my brain came up with
>Legends/tales: Sun Wukong
>Manga/anime: Ushio from Ushio to Tora
>History: Greeks, Romans
>Videogames: Gilgamesh, Kain from Final Fantasy

Retarded summerfag

>>160721828
Right I forgot about that, yes at least the WN version was worth reading for me, I read it 3 times or so, I may give it another read when the LN is done.

>spear hero spinoff
On my way.