what would anime be like if japan won wwii?

>>160606708
Thats incomprehensible because there is no way in hell japan would have ever won WWII unless the US just decided to do nothing.

>>160606708
ok, so you have a japan that controls the entire pacific
now what?
the only difference would be the US treating them like china and "cool japan" never becoming a thing outside of it's borders

>>160606708
You would get more Nazi anime and china would be making lots of anime since it would be under jap control.

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The same these fuckers will still be cheap as fuck.
Also japs losing is a coverup, burgers never took over and the emperor wasn't killed.

>>160606708
no anime, but a lot of movies of incredible nip victories against the huge allied war machine.

>>160606708
Depends: Will America still have Disney animation to spark eastern animation?

If yes then just more anime with less gay people in it.

>>160606854
>Also japs losing is a coverup, burgers never took over and the emperor wasn't killed.
kek

>>160606819
Would anime made by Chines be considered anime or does it need to be made by elevens for it to be official?

>>160606708

Non existing, Anime come after WWII and influenced by Disney.

>>160606743
Except they almost did nothing.

>>160606854
go back to /pol/ if you want to post false history

>>160606854
>Soviet technology

>>160606946
Except crush the IJN and invalidate it as a military force.
Look I know people like to meme that the US did nothing in WWII as a reaction to people that say the US won WWII but don't be an idiot.

>>160606937
This is what retards actually believe.

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>>160606854
When it comes to that picture I would say there might be a difference between the atomic bomb versus a reactor meltdown.

When it comes to WW2 Japan lost everything that it wanted in the war. Japan had so much of east Asia under its occupation and lost everything at the end of the war. All of Japans attempts to land grab and conquer was erased. Basically no one won. Some countries got raped and some got bombed.

Anime wouldn't exist.

It evolved out of a hodgepodge of post-WWII sentiment:

-a sense of loss
-butthurt over the atombombs
-fascination with youth/cute
-hope for the future

Most of the early anime/manga's were very foward looking. Tezuka, Ishinomori, Yokoyama were like Walt Disney, if you had to look in the past, look before WWI and after WWI, otherwise look to the future. Or look to animals.

>>160606985
dumb frogposter

>>160607315
This

>>160606743
They were ready to go to war for several more decades against the allies, japan being near defeated is a joke.

>>160607315
I think there would definitely be an animation industry in Japan either way, as to whether it would be the same as anime today perhaps maybe not. There is already animation being produced in Japan before WW1 was over and then after WW1 being shown as shorts at the cinema before main features and such as was common in the rest of the world. It was only a matter of time with the popularity of those shorts and Disney works until a company like Toei came along and started making feature films in the 1950s that did well enough and were then followed by cheaper TV animation in the early 60s.

>>160607429
And they would have inevitably lost. You can have all the HONORABU spirit you want, its meaningless with no resources and no commanders because they all killed themselves over the last 4 years of war.

>>160607429
Japan was on the brink of famine in 1945 with industrial production at a stand still

It's because of WW2 that manga->anime even became a thing

>>160607617
It literally had no industry left. The American bombings sent an industrial economy back to the stone age.

>>160607315
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFeL9vFTVeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShzmzcJM7QIv=_rcIor2wG74

>>160607617
>>160607655
They also lost like 90% of their oil supply when they declared war on the US
They were doomed to lose from the beginning

>>160607429
This is a pretty spicy meme.

I'm sure someone somewhere believes the nips had a chance of winning unironically

>>160606708
We'd still see opposing political ideologies shoehorned into cartoons like American cartoon today. Values, morals, and sensibilities will still change over the 70 years, Japan or Axis powers winning the world war 2 is not immune to that.

>>160606708
>what would anime be like if japan won wwii?
Japan wouldn't exist anymore if it had won.

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>>160606708
>>160606819
>>160606927
We would finally get the non-existent Nazi propaganda anime that we so desperately desire.

>>160606854
Maybe because the Japanese cleaned shit up before it could seep into the soil?

(Also less material dispersed?)

>>160607937
Honestly though even taking the fact there was a Japanese animation industry around as early as the 1920s and the rest of the post I have made here >>160607527
If we are talking about anime as in the unique flavour of Japanese animation has today, the image people think of when you hear anime, I don't think it is necessarily too far off to say "anime" wouldn't exist. As in the content and target audiences might very well be entirely different due to the cultural differences and differences in world power structures. Though I think there definitely would have been an industry either way.

Like when you see an independent short abstract animation for example from Japan it might as well come from any country because a lot of it lacks anything distinctively "anime". Not that I want a debate about the definition of anime or anything if you are being strict about it we are talking about any animation from Japan using it in the western sense.

>>160606854
>Why didn't a nuke irradiate the area like a burning nuclear reactor did?

I hope that image is meant to be silly.

>>160606708
I like that pic

>>160606708
Non-existent.

>>160608206
I dunno anon, atomic bomb deniers are an actual thing
They are just as dumb as flat earthers

>>160608308
I wish I hadn't read that. I will have to go and read and listen to these people now. I find these kind of nuts fascinating.

>>160608308
I'm just going to chose to believe you are lying. It already hurts knowing a flat earther in person as it is.

>>160608308
Do they deny the existence of atomic weapons or do they deny the bombings of Ghettoshima and Niggasaki?

>>160608206
>japs walking around a couple weeks after being nuked despite muh radiation

Explain why there were survivors near the detonation area, I guess humans can survive point blank nukes now.

>>160609044
Are the people that think this the same kind of weaboos that deny nip warcrimes and want to believe that Japan never lost or are they just like regular conspiracy theorists?

>>160607429
> japan being near defeated is a joke.
I don't think sacrificing every man woman and child counts as a willingness to fight. The problem is they were used to the Chinese war theme of total genocide and were prepared to fight at such. Western culture gets bored with war after it becomes a foregone conclusion.

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>>160609005
Iirc correctly they deny the existence of nuclear bombs in general
All nuclear explosions were done with regular bombs and all the footage of nuclear explosions is edited in order to make the explosions look bigger
Its so stupid

>>160609361
6/10 the fact that there are people that actually believe that is both comical and sad

>>160606708
Nothing, Hitler would have turned on them and they would have gone into the camps wondering how they ever thought he was serious about the "honorary Aryan" shit.

>>160606743
>>160606946
>>160607429
Reminder that only the most ridiculously fanatic officers thought they could actually win a prolonged war. The more knowledgeable people like Yamamoto were hoping that America would just shrug and give up after getting beaten for 6 months straight, letting Japan keep their empire.

>>160607429
Yeah Japan realized watching the Europeans and Soviets rape their outgunned and starved soldiers in their remaining colonies while the US genocided the mainland from the sky was completely pointless and decided to survive instead of fighting to the death

Japan never thought they were going to win, they just thought they could beat the US in a Battle of Tsushima (a battle Japan has always had a massive hard on for) part two jiggalo and force them to the table to agree to terms

That never happened and the Japanese lost badly

>>160609756
What an idiotic hope that was.

>>160609948
Public Opinion could have swayed America as it did in Vietnam. Of course that would never have happened with Pearl Harbour.

>>160609948
well it's obvious in hindsight

>>160609756
>>160609948
It was less of a "hope" and more of a "this is a slight possibility but this is almost assuredly not going to work".
You'll find that the majority of the Japanese command structure was hopelessly moronic and completely lacked pragmatism

Think the nip that made Zipan was not butthurt?

>>160610065
The US was very hesitant to get involved, just as they were in WWI. The public opinion was that it was a European War/Pacific War and it had zero bearing on the US.
Hell, until the war broke out Hitler was a moderately popular figure in the US. A lot of people sympathized with Germany post war and saw him as a man that was trying to right the wrongs of what had happened.
That of course changed when the war broke out.

>>160610075
It was obvious beforehand too

>>160610174
So if the Nips did not attack Pearl Harbor they might get an armstice?

>>160610174
America's greatest weakness in war is Public Opinion. Look at the Copperheads in the Civil War, the opposition to WWI and WWII or of course the many peace movements in Vietnam and the problems with Iraq. America's military might has always been second-to-none, but it's shackled to a civilian society that can often hamstring it.

>>160609948
Despite all the advanced stuff Japan had (oxygen torpedoes, the world's largest aircraft carrier force, submarines that could launch aircraft, etc) they still had an ass-backwards mentality. A lot of this stemmed from Tsushima like >>160609913 mentioned where glorious Nipponese battleships destroyed the Russian Navy in a battleship brawl. Japan then decided that a tactic that worked in a relatively narrow area without any aircraft interference would work in the 1940s. You'll find that most of Imperial Japan's issues are a result of general retardation >>160610076

>>160610174
>>160610269
Yamamoto's plan for Pearl Harbor was for the US to get official word that Japan was done negotiating about 30 minutes before the attack hit so that it wouldn't be seen as a sneak attack. That obviously didn't work so all Pearl Harbor did was get America into the war, which Hitler then exacerbated by declaring war on the US even though he didn't need to. Japan might have done better if their attack hit anything important, like Pearl's oil reserves, the sub pens, any infrastructure, etc. instead of the obsolete battleships.

>>160610292
Doesn't matter. America had Midway. Guam, and many islands in the pacific. Anyone of them could serve as a new naval base. Heck, the Nips built their pacific headquater up from a fishing village over 1-2 years.

>>160610404
Pearl Harbor was the best naval base America had at the time and housed most of its power in the Pacific. It was just as much about taking out American ships as it was a show of force meant to demoralize. Some of the more crazy Japanese thought that the US would just give up instead of fight back since they lacked the honorable Bushido spirit and were more interested in gathering shekels. On the other hand, prominent US officials thought the Japanese were no better than literal rats and thus incapable of doing anything against them. Both the US and Japan were really racist, and that affected how they thought the war would go. It just so happened the US had more than enough resources to rebuild and were able to cure their retardation much sooner than Japan did.

>>160610292
Their desire for their big "Decisive Battle" ruined them. They took risks early on like Midway which got them BTFO for life and that made them terrified of being risky when they should have been (Taffy 3).

>>160610706
No one remember Coral Sea. Too bad. That was a sacrifice worth fighting for.

>>160610706
Or actually really committing to the battles of Guadalcanal. If the force at Savo Island had sunk the Transports, or if they'd sent the Yamato into the straight they would have forced the Americans to withdraw.

>>160610706
Even if they sank the carrier task force at Taffy 3 America got couple more fast carrier task force ready.

>>160610759
Why were we fighting in Guadalcanal again? We could just as easily go around Australia and hit them via Guam --> Saipan --> Iwo Jima.

>>160610656
So how we view ISIS?

>>160610813
Guadalcanal was a mistake. it sucked America into a long and costly campaign up the Solomons that actually delayed the end of the War by a good 6 months to a year. And the reason was because it was considered the bets place to strike back against the Japanese.

>>160609158

I think there is more then that, lets take Europe that been in constant conflicts for about what 600-700 years? Western nations seen war as a natural consequence of the political game and was something that also ended politically.

Now Japan on the other hand during the Tokugawa had a failed attempt to invade Korea and a handful of very small conflicts, with the Meiji Restoration they had a string of victories, they never really had something like Europe so they ended up viewing defeat as a "all or nothing", in Western nations losing mean you might lose some territory but rarely there was the case of total destruction.

Of course there are other reasons, Japan did tried to get the Soviets to work out a surrender to the Allies when the situation was obvious yet they allowed their own ego to get ahead to what should be the better of the country.

>>160610778
The IJN Center fleet could have thrown a massive wrench in the Philippines had they not been scared away by three destroyers, a tug boat, and a few slow ass tiny aircraft carriers
>>160610751
Agreed. The loss of the Lexington and the damage to Yorktown could have been capitalized on.

>>160610941
Yorktown should had been advertised as a hero - damaged but still fought in Midway and did her nation proud.

>>160606927
Anime as an art style is already becoming more popular across Asia. It will reach the point where Asian cartoons are just anime.

>>160610813
Solomon Islands were fought over for a vareity of reasons. The Aussies were fucking terrified of a Japanese presence within pissing distance of them, and what >>160610916 said. So the US spent a fuckton of time and resources there trying to get rid of them.

>>160606743
japan wasn't alone

>>160610916
>>160610813
Guadalcanal I've heard was more about denying the Japanese an airbase to attack Australia.

>>160609756

Yamamoto said that they had about 8 months to win the war, not that America would just leave then alone.

What he attempted was to put the US and the Allies in a position were negotiated peace would be more advantageous for them, for the UK the Pacific Theater was something they could not afford to invest until the situation in Europe was stabilized in their favor, the US also had a Germany First objective.

He wasnt wrong, the US would not sit and allow a Nazi Europe to exist just to win the Pacific War but things simply didnt worked out for Yamamoto.

>>160611139
>>160611073
But they had Marshall Island which could easily strike New Guinea?

>>160610992
>Yorktown should had been advertised as a hero - damaged but still fought in Midway and did her nation proud.
She, along with her sister Hornet, are often forgotten in favor of the Big E.
And those bastards in the USN got rid of her too.

>>160611186
Hornet died to a sub though. That is kinda a shitty way to go.

We would have no anime because being nuked gave them the spark to create degenerate cartoons.

We need to nuke them again to get the creative juices flowing.

>>160611252
They are doing it to themselves.

>>160611177
And the Japanese did attack New Guinea only to be held back by ANZAC.
They attempted both

>>160610832
Not quite, since there isn't much in common between Imperial Japan and ISIS. Imperial Japan had a Westernized army and navy, complete with all the equipment, ships, organization, etc. that ISIS doesn't have.

>>160611104
They effectively were, despite being part of the Axis with Germany and Italy. The countries were simply too far away from each other to send any materials and none of them had the ability to protect convoys like the US could. Japan also never bothered breaking the non-aggression pact they had with the USSR for a variety of reasons, which Hitler really wanted but never got.

>>160611166
Yeah, this is a better answer than what I had. I feel that the US victory at Midway helped convince the US that they could fight on 2 fronts, which I don't think anyone really expected in WWII.

>>160611267
The seasons surrounding the fukushima disaster were pretty good. At this point, its science.

>>160611303
We got the finale of Madoka, cute girls driving tanks, cute girl driving ships with bluefish.

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>>160611224
No, it was attacked by multiple dive bomber and torpedo bomber raids. The first one knocked out its engine, and when the USS Northampton tried to tow her clear of danger, a second raid came and crippled her.
Hornet is a cute boat

>>160611432
Did that quest writer ever finish his quest?

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>>160611347
And speaking of WW2, Gosick was pretty good.

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>>160606708

short answer was already given in-thread: not anime as we know it.
>>160607937

>>160609913
>>160610292
>>160610656
>>160610706
>>160610706
>>160610706
>>160610706
>>160611166

there are some smart cookies posting. awesome guys, i don't really have to post anything about the military side, you guys got that.
>thanks, anons

>Japan? Winning?
for even the plausibility of japan winning you need astronomical gains to happen.
---Japan gets better gains in East Asia, since the southern push was part of the PHarbor plan portfolio overall
---Japan declares war 2 hours before PH. this gives the americans time to laugh at them before the rape train arrives.
---at PH Japan takes gendo's advice and goes in for the 3rd run. there are losses, but the pic related doesn't happen.

that's just step 1

you need to have an actual major battle happen that Japan had a solid win on, to be a focus point to crush american morale and show them the japanese could do their part at war....
...nigh impossible, but it would be needed for Japan to win

>>160606743

If the navy better cooperated with the army and the army air force, they could have held their islands long enough that they could sue for peace. the goal of pearl harbor was to end the embargo and prevent war. they fucked up and ggd quickly at midway.

anything else is just hindsight bias. like if the navy abandoned battleship doctrine and mass produced the akizuki as originally planned.

>>160611461
No. He claims he's going to and is currently planning it out, but hasn't yet.
Whether you choose to believe that is a different story.
Also Strike Witches Quest is NEVEREVER unless he does what he wants to do and just write out a conclusion like a fucking fanfic

>>160610292
Japan should have been useful and attacked Vladivostok, force Joseph Stalin to draw troops away from the Western Front, and pray Hitler beheading a weakened Soviet Union by taking Moscow successfully defeats them

Knocking the Soviet Union out cold was the only hope the Axis had in WWII, with the Soviet Union gone, America would have had to resort to nukes eventually to fight the Axis, which would have dramatically changed world history and killed a shitload more people

But the Axis were never really fighting together anyways, so they all looked out for themselves and were defeated

>>160611624

THIS.

nice insight.

>>160611624
Nips know what we know - never get into a land war with Soviet Union.

>>160611624
Japan's line of thought about war with the USSR was that it would've been too much. They were already busy with China, which had been a grueling slog for years, the various other islands/nations they were conquering/trying to conquer for their Co-Prosperity Sphere (read: oil and rubber because the US cut them off), and eventually the US itself. Even the craziest generals and admirals didn't want to open yet another front, though they thought about it before they saw that the Eastern Front had stalled out. On the other hand, the USSR really didn't want a second front to open up since they had their hands full already. Their survival on the Eastern Front was far from assured at that point and a second front would've put them in a really tight spot.

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Sure sounds like there's a lot of discussion about anime in here.

>>160611904
WWII is the greatest seinen ever created

>>160611853

They also attempted to invade Mongolia that ended up pretty disastrous for them.

>>160611904
Zipang is so fucking good what the FUCK. S2 when?

>>160611904
Mirai was the best song.

Too bad it went pants on head retarded in the end.

>>160611923
>all those endless side stories that will never be told
>the shitstorm that was the entire eastern front
It was also far better than its immediate sequel.

>>160611985
Cold war is more drama less war.

>>160611985
Now I want to play a WW II game but HOI4 is slightly disappointing.

>>160611976
This shit gets me so pumped!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uulNyuV0DM

>>160612034
And these days War on terror is just a clusterfuck.

>>160611541

That image reminds me of an argument I had with some idiot who thought that Pearl Harbor was an inside job or some shit because the "casualty numbers were too low" and "not enough ships were sunk." I ended up showing him a bunch of casualty figures for the attack on the French fleet at Mers-el-Kébir and the attack on the Italian fleet at Taranto, both of which had far fewer casualties and ships damaged or destroyed. Harbor attacks in general don't seem that decisive on paper, it's really just the morale shock or the message they send that seems to be the big factor.

>>160611602

After falling behind on it, I've had the SWQ archive open in a tab in my browser for years with the thought that EVENTUALLY I'll finish reading it. Now I've lost a lot of motivation to finish that. SWQ'89, on the other hand, appears to have a conclusion, so maybe someday I'll finish reading that one.

>>160611624

>Knocking the Soviet Union out cold was the only hope the Axis had in WWII

It's sort of telling, in a weird way, that the best and perhaps only way of winning the board game Axis and Allies as the Axis is to do the same.

>>160612107
There could be fun stories from the multiple factions fighting Syria, like Tactic Ogre: Let Us Cling Together.

>>160612138
I still think never starting a land war in Asia is the best strategy.

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>>160611819
>>160611853
>>160611965
Nips would have won Khalkhin Gol, but they had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting the Soviet general that would someday single handedly stop Hitler at the gates of Moscow and then go on to conquer Berlin

Without the Future Hero of the Soviet Union Georgy Zhukov in Mongolia at the time, Nips would have won

>>160612199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mTlnrXFAXE

>>160612247
A shame Zhukov basically was forgotten and ignored, sidelined by Stalin after the war.

>>160612138
Strikers '89 is Mary Sue haremshit cancer.
It was still an enjoyable ride until it became stupid as fuck. Even unfinished you should either just ignore everything or read SWQ.

>>160606743
FDR wouldn't have done anything if Hawaii or the Philipines were left alone. The Secretary of State got pissed at him multiple times because if Hitler just did submarine warfare like WWI then the US would have been at a severe disadvantage. FDR was really hoping to get dragged in because his election platform was not having Americans die in Europe.

>>160609744
Hitler didn't have a navy for invading Japan and he wouldn't win a land war in Asia either.

>>160612298
Can't let your war heroes get too big for their britches.

>>160612247
I respect Zhukov but Chuikov was the better general IMO, he could do more with less.

>>160612626
What did these generals do that is different from other generals?

>>160612654
Zhkuov and Chuikov crushed Nazi Germany allowing the Allies to win.

>>160612750
So did Patton and Monty and Bradley and the rest. What was so good about the commie generals?

>>160612107
The war on terror is just a rebranding of the war on communism. It's all the same thing. We buy leaders that love burgers and hate everyone else. Russia and half a dozen other spy agencies/corporate strategic nets do the same for their ends. When too many sides clash, they turn into terrorists. Rinse, repeat.

>>160612802
75% of Germany's military died on the eastern front that's what happened.

>>160612813
This proxy war thing is not working out well for us since the cold war.

>>160612802
Zhukov and Chuikov were responsible for leading the troops that had to hold off the vast majority of Germany's army. Without the Eastern Front tens of millions of German soldiers would've been freed to do other things in Europe which would've been a disaster for the Allies.

>>160612802
https://youtu.be/DwKPFT-RioU?t=4m29s

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Is there any fighter plane faster than the Zero?

And I’m referring to Mitsubishi A6M Zero (model 21) with the Nakajima 14 cylinder, air cooled engine and top speeds allowing them to outmaneuver waito piggu fighters at 534 km/h (332 mph for you lazy Americans) equipped with two 7.7mm machineguns and 20mm cannons, a complete operating range of about 3,100 km, with 92 quality octane fuel flowing through their float-type carburetor equipped engine so they can out perform the Grumman F4F Wildcat at higher altitudes as well as being extremely proficient kamikaze units and fighters.

>>160612964
Zero had shit armor.

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>>160612964
Not so fast nip

>>160613006
Kehehe, you don't need armor when you have speed. *teleports behind you and sheathes katana*

>>160609044
>Knowing this little about nuclear technology in the nuclear age.
Dirt and stone makes excellent insulators against the heat of the nuclear blast.
As for the force of the blast? Any sort of pit or basement would protect you or a VERY well supported structure.
The Nagasaki strike was an air blast which produces very little fallout as the radioactive particles cannot embed themselves in any dirt as it was detonated well above it ( 1,650ft to be approximate)

>>160613006
The Zero was very emblematic of Imperial Japan's mindset, which was to attack very fast and very hard, and if that didn't work then do it again and hope that it worked out better. Just like the rest of Japan's ideas it didn't work out in the long run, especially since they were both unwilling and unable to create new planes fast enough before their industries were ruined and the war effectively over.

>>160612960
What the fuck did the Yugloslavia done to get so many post-invasion death?

>>160612964
Kek you know the zero got outclassed by planes like the corsair, p-38, and hellcat later on int he war

>>160612580
I'm assuming he wouldn't try until well after the war with the allies was finished, though given the Russia situation maybe that's a foolish assumption.

>>160613173
>He doesn't know that Yugoslavia liberated itself

>>160613173
Well when you resist the Nazi occupation they would kill random people from the civilian population. Yugoslavia resisted quite a bit.

Why can't burgers just fuck off? They're annoying with their bullshit patriotism and talking while they are actually fatties sitting on a fucking chair

>>160613285
Shut up weeb

>>160613215
>>160613218
Now I have mad respect for the Yugoslavs.

>>160613331
Yugoslavia was unified when Tito was alive. But like all well liked, well established dictators, everything went into the shitter when he died.

>>160612960
16% Polish - So is this more deadly than 30 years war?

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>>160612964
Not so fast nip

>Teleports behind you
>Unsheathes 6 'Ma Deuces' from our lord and savior John Browing
>Pssh...nothing personal kid
>Unloads 1400 rounds of .50 caliber

>>160613331
They slaughtered each other. Croatia and Slovakia were Nazi Puppets and the Croatian Ustaše were so blood-mad even the Nazis were horrified. Yugoslavians did to each other what they did in the 90s, only a lot worse.

>>160612960
Now I am curious what Asian numbers such as in China would compare against European losses.

>>160613469
Nigga I just like Japan because they give me cute anime girls, but they got fucking BTFO in the war

>>160613464
China lost 10 Million as I recall.

>>160613464
Well they cover the asian theater in the video but not in as much detail

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>>160613421
>tfw ywn be a Hellcat pilot

>>160613469
wehraboo sighted
>idolizing the true cucks of history and the losers of ww2

>>160613512
>>160613522
Then 40 mil post war in China.

>>160606708
Favorite 40's anime OP? Mine is Americas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8

>>160611972
i wanna fuck the chubby nurse.
she gave me the ability to love real women again.

>>160613776
It is oddly catchy.

>>160610656
I remember reading that some american tacticians thought nips being squinty eyed would make it so they couldn't see well enough to dogfight once

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>>160611252
no, they've been degenerates for centuries.

>>160613866
And some British tacticians believed they couldn't fly fighter planes because they lacked a sense of balance from being carried on the backs of their mothers as infants.

Better! The Jews fear the samurai

>>160613776
Not an OP, but Vera Lynn's insert song is GOAT. Too bad it's overused nowadays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvgM_xcx2GI

Here's a 1939 version for good measure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvgM_xcx2GI

>>160613866
>>160613961
And Japan didn't invest in nightvision because they believed that their superior eyesight would allow them to see in the dark better than gaijin.

>>160613932
>cross-species shota
Jeez he's getting a blowy joey at his age.

>>160614469
that's a woman you newb

>>160613464
China effectively lobotomized itself with the staggering amount of people dying during and aftter the war, with only the people who could dance to the tune of the government surviving

>>160606854
>Air burst nuke meant to make as little radiation as possible
versus
>Literally a giant steam cannon showering the entire area in radioactive particles
Jee anon I don't know man.

>>160614953
>giant steam cannon showering the entire area in radioactive particles
it was the world, actually. if you saw old articles about the Chernoby.l explosion, it showed the wind charts and their effect on radiation.

http://users.owt.com/smsrpm/Chernobyl/glbrad.html

certain CITIES in the world had emergency lock-down day happen all of a sudden because of that shit.
the civilized world was shitting themselves

>>160610076

It wasn't exactly like this, tough.

More on the lines of something like this
1) Pearl Harbour the motherfuckers (i.e. cripple the americans for some time)
2) secure the Pacific the way we want
3) Basically repel americans/britons 'till they say "fuck this shit, I'm outta there"

The interesting fact is that they kinda got point 2: the only part of perimeter they didn't get was New Guinea and the east of that, and only partially. The rest was astonishingly well done, all considered (in retrospective, mostly because in London there were some real morons in command, but I digress)

What didn't work that well was PH. Tough it is worth mentioning that no one at that point saw the carriers as something that strategically important, it was more luck.
The real problems tough were two things:

1) China. They didn't forsee that quagmire and the massive resources it sucked - and when they were winning there it was too late.(tough it is worth mentioning they WERE winning, it that means something)
>yeah, I know Yamamoto and his 9 months thing, but honestly the only thing they could've done was probably winning at Midway -even Guadalcanal didn't meant that much

2) The tendency for japanese naval commands to search out the perfect plan that meant all or nothing. See Midway for the most known example. It's not something you can really go for in the navy on a strategical level, because you can't replace a fucking carrier or battleship that easily. THAT was the stupid part on them.

I'd say that was their real mistake: thinking "persuading" americans to... accept their victory in the pacific was more important than taking the counterblow.

>on the subject of anime, the question is pretty absurd: we can't really say what woul've happened of a winning Axis nation. Social changes and all that. If we go for what they seemed to want to be at most you could've got something like victorian/ww1 england children literature, some kind of escape fantasy for some adults

>>160606708
>>160606743
What if instead of monkeys, repiteles had evolved and become smarter.

>>160615251
Then they killed by the ice age!

Japan made the same mistake every empire makes.
They attacked America.

The only way to defeat America is to trick America into attacking first. Then they launch a war, and then eventually get bored and go home. Only Canada ever succeeded in attacking America, but they didn't succeed well enough for it to matter.

Bin Laden thought America would get bored of the sand and mountains eventually but they violated the sovereignty of no less than 8 nations just to kill him.

Now Putin thinks he'll get away with it but the missiles are in South Korea and Japan, the eastern border of Europe has more guns pointed at Russia than ever, all Russian assets in America are frozen and will ultimately be made into American patriots, and DARPA is literally building Ace Combat rail guns and laser weapons.

Everyone makes the same mistake. They attack America first.

>>160606708
WE

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Japs lost ww3 cause they were to naive from being isolated for so long, their spy network was complete dog shit and they didn't know about (((them))).
They're teaming up with Turkey this time it seems so I hope it works out.

>>160611624
But anon the soviets literally had an army with over a million men on the Siberian Front in case the Japs ever wanted a Khalkhin Gol: Electric Boogaloo throughout the entire time Operation Barbarossa was happening.

>>160615104
Point still stands though. Both jap nukes were airburst meant to maximize damage while limiting radiation while chernobyl was an accident that had the hallmarks of a ground burst nuke.

So, is it true that the US literally had to invent a new math system to figure out their logistics?

>>160617259
I think he agrees with you, just pointing out that the damage of of chernobyl was actually a lot bigger than some people think

>>160612138
>Harbor attacks in general don't seem that decisive on pape
Because you can refloat most of the sunk ships relatively easily.

That, and none of the carriers were in port that day.

>>160606854

Image is about reactor core being domed in- Radiation in the area has decreased not increased. The core is a different matter - There is a significant difference between a nuclear explosion (most of the energy is released all at once - the devastation is an example of that) . A nuclear meltdown of fissile materials is something entirely different. - further it's being contained by that construction. Read up on the Elephant's foot.

>>160607429
What the fuck does ready mean in your brain?

They didn't have the food or the oil to fight a war. Had America simply continued it's blockades against Japan they would have lost the war without being able to remotely put up a fight.

>>160618697
Being cornered just makes them more dangerous, chemical and disease warfare would be used and it's not like every country in the world is fighting them.
Some middle east country takes advantage and grows into a big enough threat or the nazi build up their forces again.

>>160619097

The Middle East was shackled under British dominion and the Ottoman Caliphate was destroyed after WWI. There is no hope of a Middle Eastern nation becoming a world power, even the Saudi's. They don't have the human resources, they rely on terrorist activity to hit civilian targets.

Japan was beaten. They had the Soviets to the north and Americans everywhere else. Nukes just expedited the process and saved the lives of many soldiers.

>>160606854
If japs didn't lose why have they mean America's cuck for the last 70 years? Murican Muhreens have raped 100's of japs while based their and the Jap government doesn't do shit

>>160619243

>Nukes just expedited the process and saved the lives of many soldiers.

Just to give people an idea of the expected casualties: we're still issuing purple hearts manufactured in 1945 for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. At the high end of estimates, the US expected to double it's full-war death count from the FIRST 90 DAYS ALONE. And that's just the projected American casualties, the projections for the Japanese were far worse: they would have doubled, tripled, quadrupled, or even quintupled their final casualty total for the whole war. At the highest estimate, this would have put them on par with Poland for the percent of prewar population lost. Even more horrifying was these estimates included mass suicide of Japanese civilians, taking to what happened to Okinawa (which lost 50% of its prewar population).

>>160619522
That's chump change compared to nanjing you weeb apologist. And they aint japs if theyre Okinawans.

>>160606708
propaganda and child brainwashing, look at how the soviet union push propaganda and brainwashing in about everything.

>>160615251
What are you talking about? Of course we got smarter.

Waddup with all these weebs thinking japan had a chance of winning? For fucks sake.

>>160619243
You say that like the soviets weren't having their own troubles and germany was still a player.
The US not killing the emperor after they were deadset on it even rejecting every offer means they didn't want a prolonged war.

>>160619522
>Murican Muhreens have raped 100's of japs

That's nothing and all were sluts throwing themselves on the marines anyways.

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>>160620077

Get out of here, Ange.

>>160606708
Better.

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>>160606854
>radiation increases every year
Funny considering that thousands of people work at the Chernobyl plant every day.