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Do people still deny they are gay?

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Do people still deny they are gay?
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>>160541335
Butthurt hetfags need to move on and watch other anime. These two are gay, period.
I don't know what people try to accomplish by denying the gay.
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>>160542310
...This is a meme right?
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>>160542310
Fujoshit uterly BTFO lmaoo
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>>160542335
Some people will go to extreme lengths to convince themselves they're not watching something gay.
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>>160542335
Some people will go to extreme lengths to convince themselves they're watching something gay.
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>>160542310
>romantic friendship
It's not gay to fuck your friends, right?
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>>160541335
I have watched and read gayer things than Quality on Ice that ended up with a "just kidding, I want pussy after all". So yes, I'm not saying they must be het, but not gay unless confirmed buttsex or blowjobs.
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Do you think Legend of the Galactic Heroes is gay?
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>>160542557
When one guy fucks another one in the ass, their dicks don't touch, so it's not gay.
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>>160542310
>Soulmates can be platonic and romance can be platonic
Glad we got that sorted.
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>>160541335
I didn't get the impression that they were gay from the anime
>but muh staff interviews
Don't care, if you're not able to convey it through your storytelling then go fuck yourself.
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>>160542335
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>>160542656
My fucking god, the denial is real.
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>>160542630
>I didn't get the impression that they were gay from the anime
Did you guys watch YoI with your eyes closed?
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>>160542678
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>>160542596
So I guess you apply this reasoning also when you watch hetero romance, right? No matter if there's obvious attraction between a boy and a girl, if they don't fuck on screen they're neither hetero nor gay. And they are just buddies.
Or do you have double standards like all the hypocrites who master mental gymnastic to convice themselves that the homo is only inside fujos' heads?
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>>160542622
So the only sex act that's actually gay is frottage, because that's the only time when two men's balls will touch?
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>Japan
>ever making something gay
Kek, they want their population to procreate
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>>160542773
Fuck this gay earth.
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>>160542630
what anime were you watching?
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>>160542596
You do realize that this isn't some gay-ass hentai where they'll show a 5 minute scene of Viktor graphically fisting Yuuri's asshole just to satisfy your autism?
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>>160542819
>linking a 2016 random online article
Kek

This is from Kubo Mitsurou's twitter (author of YOI) some months before the anime aired.
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>>160542819
>tfw Japan will die in your lifetime
feel good
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This is a handsome Russian heterosexual dude ready to steal your gf.
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>>160542944
And none of this happened in the actual show lmao. Everything is just fujobait like it's the case in most anime
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>>160542773
Wait, did the latest gundam have real gay? Not just maybe-gay but actual gay?
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>>160541335
>babby's first fujobait
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>>160543008
sure
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Don't know if this is the new YOI thread but LOOK! They're releasing the old Saga collab art as bromide set. FUCKING FINALLY. Plus other cute shit.
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>>160543008
Yeah, whatever helps you sleep at nigh.
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>>160542733
Yes.
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>>160543091
>>160543159
see >>160542453
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was yuri on stage leaked yet?
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I want that tapestry.
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>>160542986
I'd let him cuck me just so I can burst out of the closet right as he's about to cum and force my dick into his butthole. A harmless prank between bros, after all.
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Yuri!!! on ICE x Youme cafe
only Hong Kong
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>>160543125
>>160543262
>>160543371
Fuck off with general thread bullshit. Go to the buyfag thread for your merch shit.
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Which YOI character has a fart fetish?
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>>160543467
JJ
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>>160541335
Just dudes being Bros with matching engagement rings engraved with a snowflake that can only be seen by putting the two of them together, ballroom skating to a gay love song together.
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>>160543467
None because it's fucking degenerate and only basement dwelling NEETs have this fetish. Everyone in YOI is too successful.
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>>160543551
Absolutely. It's exactly like >>160542433 said, some people's imagination really goes too far sometimes, geez!
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>>160543254
No. ;_;
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>>160543569
If everyone in YOI is too successful to have degenerate basement dwelling NEET fetishists then why does Victor have a foot fetish and is a chubby chaser?
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>>160543864
He just loves and and accepts all aspects of his Piggy.
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>>160543864
Feet and chubby chasing aren't degenerate like farting.
Also for some reason at least 60% of the YOI fics I find contain piss play.
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>>160543864
It's not fetish, he wants to take care of him.
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>>160542310

It's almost like those Homura threads.
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>>160543993
Realistically speaking the smell of those feet would be enough to knock the average person back.

My sister skates professionally and the smell of her feet is enough to flood a room.
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>>160543864
he likes him with a bit of tummy in the off season but don't be a tumblrina that believes he'd be okay with an obese piggy
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>>160543864
Not all fetishes are equal.
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>>160544108
Animu guys don't smell bad though
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>>160544155
That sounds pretty boring tbqh.

I don't think I could handle not being able to shove my whole face into my favorite animu guy's butt and take a long sniff.
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Is it so hard to believe his feet have been washed
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>>160542791
Still no answer from this >>160542596 faggot kek.
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>>160544258
>implying Viktor doesn't love Yuuri's feet even when they're unwashed
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Every now and then I remember that Piggy said he was finally able to feel that love existed around him thanks to Bald, and feel bad for his extremely nice friends and family.
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>>160543032
It was Mari Okada one sided gay love. Oscar from Fujiko all over again complete with tragic ending. Don't be baited, it was shit
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>>160544377
He can love Yuuri as much as he wants but he's still not getting blood on his new suit
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>>160544451
That's why he makes sure it goes directly into his tongue.
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>>160541335
I'm not into fujoshit and even I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are 100% totally gay.

>>160542895
This made me kek harder than I should for some reason.
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>>160544429
When you've been a single virgin until 23 we'll see how much you'll appreciate your two closest friends shagging and your parents enjoying that marital bliss right in front of you
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>>160544590
I might not appreciate it but I would still recognize that they loved me and supported my faggot dreams for 23 years instead of telling me to give up chasing famous gaijin cock.
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i like and Idolise Toma from Index and Shirou from Fate Stay Night. and if i was a girl i would probably write yaoi fan fiction about them and they would be my husbando.

but since i do fap to girls them i guess i am straight.
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>>160544590
are you saying he would've been happier if his parents divorced?

plus he claimed to be friendless meanwhile pichit can't stop saying he's his best friend, and it's not like pichit was shoving a happy relationship into his face.

piggy pre bald was an ungrateful little shit, accept it already
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Ironically, most no-homo-ers are people who like and are used to homobait bishounen anime like Free. Show this anime to a normalfag who doesn't usually watch anime and they will tell you that those two are definetly gay for each other.
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>>160544763
+1
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>>160544440
It wasn't one side love.
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>>160544701
kek His family doesn't really follow figure skating and his closest friends probably got really busy when they're children were born. Anyway Minako supported him in this sense but it was all very abstract to him till he discovered a more possessive kind of feeling. It's not like he didn't feel ashamed he let his town down and everything.
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>>160543008
>>160543071
Do people even know what bait it?
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>>160544736
Where does he say he's friendless though? I read that of the skaters Phichit is the only one he had some kind of feeling with.
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>>160541335
Are balls touching? Then gay

No? Then cheap fujobait
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Is this the current yoi thread or is this just elaborate bait
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>>160545007
Kubo said he doesn't have any friends in one of the BDs commentaries.
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>>160545147
It's both.
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>>160544763
Do normalfags aslo think YOI is a sports anime with a romance subplot?
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>>160544956
I just don't like the idea that all their love was abstract and didn't reach him until Bald came along with his dick. They weren't perfect but their support and acceptance is miles above the level of typical nip families and even though I can clearly see Pig has his own problems I can't help but feel sad.

>>160545156
Kubo also said somewhere that Phichit became his friend. He's obviously the exception.
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>>160544736
>>160545007

Pig says Phichit is his only foreign skater friend.
Yuko said pig doesn't have many friend (or was that he has a hard time making friends? I may need to rewatch)

No one ever said he doesn't have friends.
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>>160545436
Shut the fuck up retard
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>>160545436
I think they're referring to the "Phichit and Friends" joke. She said something along the lines of "it was be Yuuri and no friends." It was typical Pig teasing.
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>>160545358
Most normalfags don't even know that sports anime are a thing, but basically yes.
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>>160545363
I think it was in the sense his self worth was so low, and he didn't see any reason for his family, town, and friends to be proud of him. In that sense he just felt alone until Victor restored his confidence. That's a hilarious way to put it though.
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>>160545363
I love that he's still a bit selfish and used to live in his own little world where he was involuntarily unappreciative of the people who tried to support him, only a sudden abrupt change in his life chould shake him. Bless Victor's soviet cock.
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>>160541335
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>creators make explicitly platonic relationship because they know it prints money
>fans eat up the baiting fanservice scenes
>try to rationalize a m/m relationship even though they can see the writing on the wall
>creators inevitably feel disgust at having shied away from portraying an actual romance
>try to remedy the situation by producing yet more sidestepping fanservice
>fans eat it up again under the assumption that "the reveal is coming!!!"
If you guys want an actual gay relationship you need to stop rewarding this behavior. Follow the money and you'll find that the showrunners and fans are still scared to embrace gay relations in 2017.
Keep pretending though
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>>160545684
I agree with that, but it still sucks on their behalf.

>>160545731
Yeah, aside from my sadness for them I think it's more interesting than having a generic nice MC. I like Pig's callousness to Minami for one, it's just that his group in Hasetsu is such a nice comfy bunch.
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I dunno, did they kiss yet?
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>>160545897
>>creators make explicitly platonic relationship because they know it prints money
This never happened. If anything the only thing that prevent them from doing it explicit homo (as explicit kisses) is the higher-up.

>Keep pretending though
I hope you understand you are a minority. An insane minority of delude people who think YoI is straight and scream fujobait.

Most people are quite happy with the canon gay romance they got.
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>>160545970
Did Clannaman and his waifu kiss yet?
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>>160545970
yes
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>>160545897
In order to not embarrass yourself next time, I suggest you to post only when you learn the difference between "fanservice" and "essential element of the story". Then we can even discuss it.
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>>160545897
t. Person who hasn't watched the show and from homo thread.
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Yuuri is bisexual, isn't he? He liked Yuuko or whoever.
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Just because the creators won't outright say everything about them doesn't mean they're straight. Have any of you looked up the meaning of green carnations...
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>>160545970

There was a weird kiss where it wasn't shown 100% and could pass as just a hug but confirm in interview (iirc) to be kiss.

Japan has a weird relationship when it comes to gay stuff. They are more accepting in some ways but way more conservative in other ways. Just the way it is.
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>>160546163
Kek, how that scene could pass as just a hug. Not even the narrative of the story support it.
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>defending """""implied""""" relations so vehemently
I know you guys are flustered because your "gay" MCs were disallowed from love as early as the storyboarding stages, but please, at least convince me you've moved past the denial stage.
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>>160546313
0/10
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>>160545982
I honestly thought YOI was fujobait until episode 3, pic related scene.
It blew me away. I'd never thought a sports anime would go this far with 1) romance 2) between to men.
I'm more than happy also and I'm grateful for the wonderful work even though the flaws (especially the animation), now I hope the madwomen will deliever more in the movie.
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>>160543371
> no chink
> because they don't want to piss off Hong Kong
Wew
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>>160546254

Because it entirely censors the kiss so it looks like a hug?

Like you can say "the story supports a kiss" (and I agree its implied at least) but it doesn't actually show the damn kiss! They needed to confirm afterward there was a behind the arm. It is bs imho because I don't think they would be so shy with a straight couple (pic related) but like I said its Japan and they have different culture.
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>>160546367
It's pretty sad that you have to settle for a dubious "oh yeah it was a kiss, we swear."
You're unable to see the difference between the mentality of "what we won't show" and "what we will show instead"
It's a conscious decision on the part of the writers to manipulate you into giving them money
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>>160542986
>>160546489
Teen Bald's thighs were out of this world. They still are, but his nubile young thighs are something else.
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>>160546526
Funny to notice that most of nips didn't doubt that the kiss happened, and Kubo in interviews laughed at the baka gaijins who bombarded her with questions for several weeks.
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>>160546559
Why did the director have to fight to push through this "hug" when the others were no problem? Why are the rings being censored and having controversy if they mean nothing and it's just bait?
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>>160546559
>>160546559
>It's pretty sad that you have to settle for a dubious "oh yeah it was a kiss, we swear."
It's pretty sad people like you can't even realize you can't show what you want when it comes to two men.
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>>160546809
14 inches confirmed.
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>>160546559
>>160546526
>>160545982
>>160545897
Imagine if people performed all these kind of mental gymansis with straight couples who never kissed.
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>>160546579
but he's still nubile
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>>160546526
Please nohomosplain what is going on here
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>>160546714

This post was so retarded I had to look up what you are talking about and it turns out it was never even confirmed at all to be a kiss, and her comment about foreigners was them asking if it was a kiss.

>Regarding Yuuri and Victor’s scene after the FS, I was fine with it being interpreted in any way. However this is the part that had more response from overseas, I was even directly asked “which one it was”. And then I heard from Japanese people too that some had an argument with their friends over whether they kissed or not, or they just hugged. I was surprised that people would want to know the truth. Up until then I had always thought that people wanted to be able to interpret fiction how they preferred. But seeing the reactions that this episode received, I realized that even if it’s fiction, inside people’s mind this series exists as a world of its own and so they believe that there must be a correct truth, an exact answer somewhere.

So really whether or not is a kiss depends entirely on interpretation, and she's only laughing at nerds who think there is some "real world" where these people exist. They are just drawings and the drawings don't really kiss. This whole time I thought she had actually confirmed it.

I don't know how to feel right now, I'm kind of angry desu. But yeah it is just a stupid anime, it doesn't really matter. But still. Fuck her and fuck anime treatment of gay/bisexual.
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>>160546916
yeah i mean i love the ccs couple, but sakura and syaoran have never kissed despite having 2 different series all about them, these people should try being a clamp fan
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>>160546939
>nohomofag pretending to care about gay people

Hi Karice
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>>160546809
Is YOI the only anime which features males with thicc asses made for squeezing, breeding and face-sitting?

It just seems so rare.
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>>160546939
The only retard I see here is you.
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>>160546986
Bald is so manly and will always defend Pig's virtue
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>>160546924

Like....its Victor praying with Yuuri. What does that have to do with the fact that the kiss got censored? And was never even confirmed to exist?? Like are you saying "its okay the kiss got censored because Victor prays a prayer"? I also never denied that Victor is gay/bi and Yuuri is bi. I am saying their kiss got censored, and the author said it is up for individual interpretation.

>>160546916

F u c k o f f.
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>>160546939
There is such a thing as a wrong interpretation coming from a dumbass with the analytical skills of a remarkably stupid three years old, you know.
In context: Victor hugs Yuuri several times befire episodes seven. In the kiss scene, he states he wanted to surprise Yuuri. A hug would not have been a surprise.
That 'I wanted to surprise you' line was there for a reason.
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>>160546994

What are you even talking about? Like.....I never ever said "no homo" you fucking weirdo. I said gay couples are given 2nd class status in anime and they are. 100%. If you don't see that you are delusional.

Like...the author herself admitted its supposed to be up for interpretation, so now what the fuck is "no homoing" supposed to even mean?
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>>160547105
He's kissing his hand you dumb negro. That's not normal prayer etiquette.
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>>160546994
Kek, this is Karice level no-homo'ing.
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>>160547186
Ikr
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>>160547186
Or its just her.
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I can't wait for the movie to have an unobstructed kiss and BTFO the no-homos.
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>every scene has a "what can we get away with" mentality
>homos let that nonsense dribble into their mouths and beg for more
I get that you guys are marginalized and conditioned to expect shit treatment but come on, have some self respect
a normal relationship wouldn't even allow this type of discussion. You aren't concerned at all about that?
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>>160547022
Probably because Sayo has a good taste.
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>>160547150

Then why did the author said she wanted it up for interpretation, and is suprised that people "want to know the truth"? why even do that? If it was obvious why were people arguing on it on both sides of the pacific? Most people who read it as a hug read the running onto the ice part as being the surprise.

I always knew the kiss was censored but I was told that it was still canon kiss via interview. And I believed that and it was still stupid but whatever, Japan is more conservative so maybe she can't show the kiss all the way?

BUT NO WAIT, that was a lie. Not only is it ambiguous on both sides of the Pacific, but the author deliberately made it ambiguous. She can have her stupid cake and eat it too. And no, fuck her. I'm not "no homoing". I ""interpret"" them as being gay/bi, and that they kissed. Since that is what it comes to. But the fact that I need to "interpret" the stupid kiss is bullshit and I am sorry that you don't know that.
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itt: people blaming sayokubo for not restricting the audience of their first world wide success because they are too autistic to understand their intentions
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>>160547161

If you are praying for someone it is. Either kiss their hand or do a weird nazi salute gesture over them.

Its still a sweet gesture and all but when people talk about "the kiss scene" that is not what they are talking about. They are talking about Ep 7.
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>THIS argument again

For the love of fucking shit they're gay why do so many people still dispute this? Now stop this pointless bickering and post some romanchikku shit to bring back the comfy.
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Please ignore the bait.
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>>160547105
>praying with yuuri
Does Bald even adhere to a religion?
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It's one sided gay for Yuuri only.
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>>160547390

Naruto showed a same sex kiss episode 1 and still became one of the most successful shows in the world. She can't do the same near 15 years later?

And her attitude in the interview of "durr why would anyone care? Interpret it however you want!! Its not real!!" is just obnoxious. Imagine any author of any straight romance pulling that. Has it ever happened?
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>>160547458
Bald is the pope confirmed.
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>>160547458
Actually come to think of it you're right. Presuming Viktor is Russian Orthodox (or at least grew up with Orthodoxy), he's probably used to intimate touches in the context of prayer since orthodox people are really fucking touchy.

I'm a Slav from an orthodox background and I constantly get kissed by my male relatives as a religious thing.
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>>160542310
This is kind of amazing.
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>>160547105
Also Yuuri kissed the ring right after that. Victor called them engagement rings, and that they would marry after Yuuri won gold. Due to the narrative you cannot deny the intended meaning of things. Same goes for the kiss. A hug never would have "surprised" Yuuri, let alone the audience.
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>>160547472
They're shrödinger's gay until it's confirmed in canon in a way that can't be hetfagged.
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Most handsome pig to date, I wanna be Fairy's hair tie
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>>160547619
That's surprisingly a gay for a Christian thing.
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>>160547341
This gotta be Karice or one of her cronies.
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>>160547341
Kubo isn't the sole creator of YoI
It's pretty much confirmed their relationship is portrayed in a romantic light so why reach so hard debate that it isn't?
Plenty of canon pairings haven't kissed on screen??
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>>160547653

I agree, like I said I do "interpret" it as a kiss, and I don't think their larger romantic relationship is deniable, they are romantically in love. I think its bullshit though that I am told that I should "interpret" whether or not they kiss by the author. You don't see that done with straight relationships. Why do I need to "interpret" the kiss at all?

So fuck her.
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>>160547922

You fucktard I am not debating that their relationship is not romantic. Can you not read.
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>>160547691
This is a world-class Pig indeed.
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>>160547551
"Yuuri gave me the words Life & Love"
By Victor himself in episode 10. Jesus just admit you like to suck dicks, Ledouche.
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>>160547921
It's her. I wonder how she thought people will not realize it's her when the way she talked bullshit about bald fat not even changed.
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>>160547341
weird... there's only two people who always go back to the "relationship without a name" bs. Which one of them are you? Tora or Karice? I'm guessing Karice. Aren't you tired of trolling around by now?
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>>160547920
For all their >le gays are degenerate ecks dee mindset, Russians are extremely fond of physical same-sex affection. In my community at least, it's perfectly normal for close friends to hug for extended periods of time and touch each other's face, thighs, chest, etc. Kissing outside of a religious context and holding hands is totally forbidden though. What's acceptable and what's not may seem very confusing for a foreigner but for me it's instinctual.

So I'm going to assume that Viktor was brought up in a similar way.
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>>160547927
Kubo doesn't want to spoonfeed interpretations on what is purposely portrayed in a certain way. I respect that you don't like it. Iirc she has also talked about how their relationship was leading up to that moment.
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>>160547920

No because kissing isn't inherently gay? Culture doesn't stop with American fratbros. Like look up Leonid Brezhnev's kisses or whatever, or those two Russian medalists who kissed on the podium and had to clarify to the American media that this doesn't make it gay.

Also its weird you would say "gay for a Christian thing" too.
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>>160548121
She's just sending her shills to troll people on twitter
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>>160541335
Traditionally/classically male friendship can be very intimate. But those relationships exist in the context of traditional male roles i.e. as a man you are just expected to have a family and children without a question and you don't really consider women (which are your property not equals) the same way you consider men. Since being gay is simply out of the realm of possibility, your friendships, as close as they are, can't be gay. But neither of these guys seem that type of traditional men, so it's unlikely that they have such an ambiguous friendship.
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>>160548121

Neither I don't know who they even are and its weird that you are obsessed about it. I also don't know what you are talking about with "relationship without a name" since I never used that phrase.

Only two posters ever talk about "fucking the iceskate". I know them by name and they are Lisa and Kandi. Which one are you????

>>160548156

I don't want to be "spoonfed interpretations". Why the fuck are same-sex relationships always up for some kind of "interpretation"? Fuck her and fuck you.
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>>160547927
She only said that after being back bombarded by homophobic nips too. Everything else she's said about that scene confirms it's a kiss. And it looks like a kiss if you have eyes. Sayo has never said anything is up to interpretation.
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>>160547314
And Sayo has full control now, Otsuka's words.
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>>160547341
Right after episode 7, the author compared the episode to an episode of a daytime drama where the lead couple did kiss on screen. She said the episodes paralleled. That was the confirmation.
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>>160547341
Look, I get that it would be better to have had an explicit kiss. But from the interview excerpt you posted, at least it sounds like Sayo changed her mind about it... It's not the first time she's done this in one of her works, and not just with romantic relationships.
From what I got with in her earlier works, she prefers to keep relationships ambiguous, not in the sense that she doesn't dare with this or that, but rather she wants relationships to mean more than just one thing for her characters.
With that said, I'm getting pretty tired of the US mentality of wanting to be spoonfed every fucking thing like it's meaningless if it's not dumbed down for the lowest common denominator.
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>>160548150
Be sure to watch the movie because my brother works for Mappa he told me Victor will heterosexually marry Medvedeva's stand-in
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>>160548314
We all know its you Karice. Fuck off.
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>>160548314
Yup. Karice. Hi there! Go back to twitter where there's still some fucktard who might listen to your ramblings. Let's ignore the troll and move on with the gay, everyone.

Where are my Yuri on Stage leaks? ;_;
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>>160548434
That's gay
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>>160548314
How is your condition after Otsuka's words in mind west, Karice? It must be traumatic for you.
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>>160548375
>>160548332

So if I am understanding this right, she sort of soft confirmed it (by comparing it to another episode where there was a real kiss?) but then went back on it after getting harassed? In that case I am being too harsh.
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>>160548354
Sauce on that? God, if that's true then the movie is going to be lewd as fuck.
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>ywn grope bald's delicious tits
why even live
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>>160548627
Don't do this to me, anon
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>>160548167
Slavs are foreign and strange to me. I must take a trip to slav lands and bear all the looks I'll get for my golden brown skin to learn about your people.
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>>160548108
It's so funny how she's two-faced. She made blog about all of this and calling people who call her out bullies and claims she doesn't engage on 4chan threads.
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>>160548695
>golden brown skin

If you're dark enough, prepare for qt Slav bitches come up to you, giggle shyly, and ask to take a selfie with you because they've never seen a person of your colour before.

I've seen it happen many times in Moscow.
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>>160546939
Death of the author and all that.
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>>160548762
That sounds weird and fun at the same time.
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>>160548627
When is Yoshi's next book, I'm dying over here.
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>>160541335
The real question is, which one takes it up the ass on the regular?
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>>160548354
full penetration confirmed
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>>160548440
>>160548456
>>160548544
nice meme

>>160548421

She might very well prefer more ambiguous relationships or whatever, but its not "dumbed down" to show an onscreen kiss and call it "a kiss". Same sex relationships aren't some deep theme that should be up for interpretation or spoonfeeding or whatever. They just are.

That interview was from Kubo too, the "original creator". Someone here said she got harassed or bombarded before she said that(?) and in that case I was harsh.
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>>160548860
your mom
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The real question is which married man should Korea kiss next?
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Toshi accepted the gay, why people still so discussing this?
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>>160548860
They switch, obviously.
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>>160548920
JJ is next
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Posting for the resident pigslut and to save this thread

https://twitter.com/eug2nd/status/892010309115760642
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>tfw bald reminds you of that pedo from that harada series
Just fuck me up every which way familia
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>>160548898
Still butthurt when Otsuka said baldfat is renai Karice?
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>>160548986

n i c e m e m e
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>>160548664
its a soul crushing feeling
fuck I'm getting aroused/depressed just looking at them
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>>160548696
You know playing victim is one of her hobbies. Just like Tora.
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>>160548971
>JJ invites everyone to his wedding skating show
>Korea gets wasted at the reception and gives him a huge hickey in front of his 10 siblings
>JJ cries because he was saving himself for marriage
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>>160549028
>those perky, puffy nipples
I bet he could cum just from you rubbing them gently with your fingers, anon-kun
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>>160548974
why is this doujinka so mean to bald? i often think about that comic where he lists all the things he gets from/gives piggy and gets more and more depressed till he cries
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>>160549013
Next time change the way you talked about Baldfat if you dont want to be recognized. But since you are retarded enough seems you can't. And i know the midwest crushed all your no-homo hcs. Must be traumatic isn't it?
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>>160549050
Does Isabella forgive him even if he's not pure anymore?
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>>160548922
Cause we have nothing else to talk about now that the museum is over and there is no new content. Time to rehash the same things 100 times.
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>>160547683
>Implying bi-scumming isn't next
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>>160549124
Don't get me started; I hate bald abuse.
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>>160549193
Isabella will cry but then get a new kink.
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>>160548974
I want a Piggy to marry and gently pork all night...
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>>160549202
The museum is going on til September and there's still content from it we don't have yet: Bald/Makkachin audio track and the secret bromide that is apparently very lewd.
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>>160549160
>Next time change the way you talked about Baldfat if you dont want to be recognized.
Still dont know what you are on about.

>. And i know the midwest crushed all your no-homo hcs. Must be traumatic isn't it?

Except I never said "no homo" once in fact I came into this thread thinking the kiss was canon (dumb how they hid it behind arm but whatever), then I found out the creator said it was "up to interpretation" (fuck her) then I found out she had been harassed by homophobes before she said it (feel bad about saying 'fuck her').

All this is about the kiss btw, not their relationship, which I "talk about" as a romantic relationship since it is. Apparently that makes me Karice but Karice is also "no homo" at the same time? And something about "the midwest"? Does YOI fandom have the highest concentration of retarded memes of all time? Who the fuck cares
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>>160549373
>Bald/Makkachin audio track
was this confirmed or it's still speculation?
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If there was a YOI fighting game based on their programs how OP would Phichit be?
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Kek
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>>160549076
I want to suck on his nipples enough to make him cum just by breathing on them and then I'd paizuri those delicious titties
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>>160549478
Interpreter-kun is based.
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>>160549478
Not good enough for no homo translators. Can't be trusted
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If some nips were triggered by the ren'ai interview I can only imagine what alluding to the kiss did.
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>>160549383
>the creator
Kubo isn't the creator
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This was a great show, in a way the Japanese are more progressive than the west. This was a show about skaters who just happen to be gay, if it was made in the west it would be about gays who just happen to skate. Your sexuality doesn't define you.
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Once Victor and Yuuri were safely busy in Victor's room, Makkachin snuck to Yuuri's computer. His furry paws tap tapped along the keyboard, soon bringing up skype.

"Woof woof," his subordinate back in St Petersburg got straight to business. "Woof woof, woof?"

Makkachin took only a moment to decide on punishment. No, he could not afford to show mercy when he was so far from his base, lest the others start getting ideas and trying to take his empire from him. Vichan's fate was ample proof of were lenience got you. "Woof."
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>https://youtu.be/WgNacYp_ppc

>https://ogiuemaniax.com/2017/07/11/animenext-2017-interview-yuri-on-ice-staff/amp/

Staff interviews from AnimeNEXT
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>>160547331
>>every scene has a "what can we get away with" mentality
It doesn't. Plenty of scenes are unmistakably gay, like episode 8 airport scene, episode 11 scene in which they stroke each other hand and episode 12 scene in which Victor rubs on Yuri.

>a normal relationship wouldn't even allow this type of discussion.

Please. Straight couples get called canon for less.
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>>160549583

She's called the creator on ANN and MAL and CrunchyRoll. Like?
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>>160549490
How about attaching tiny remote control vibes to his nipples, then activating them when he's trying to skate and watching him double over with helpless pleasure, cum dribbling down his thighs?
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>>160547683
>They're shrödinger's gay until it's confirmed in canon in a way that can't be hetfagged.
So never. No one will ever state "they are gay", probably because it would be fucking retarded.


>>160547472
They are just the new Shinji and Kaworu. People know they are gay, but can't accept it because of their own bais. They'll get over it in 5-6 years
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>>160549655

I don't know of many straight canon couples who get their kisses censored and have the creators harassed by homophobes to the point where they say "its up for interpretation".
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>>160547586
>Naruto showed a same sex kiss episode 1 and still became one of the most successful shows in the world. She can't do the same near 15 years later?
Because the kiss in Naruto was a fucing JOKE. And because it's not an anime original but a fucking manga adaptation.

It's like you guys lack of context.
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>>160549677
she's not. you are just stupid
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>>160549712

Shinji, like Yuuri, is bisexual. Kaworu is an alien. Victor is gay (or possibly bi I guess).

I dont know why retards on both sides seem to forget bisexual exist.
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>>160549753
>It's like you guys lack of context.

Literally every nohomoer
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>>160549737
>I don't know of many straight canon couples who get their kisses censored and have the creators harassed by homophobes to the point where they say "its up for interpretation".
That's right, the world treat gay men unfairly, news at 11.
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>>160549779

OK I guess ANN, MAL and CruchyRoll are also all stupid too. You are the smart one here. Maybe contact all those websites so they stop crediting her.
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>>160549677
Sayo has been wanting to make a skating anime for years and came up with the concept, got it okayed from the higher ups and then asked Kubo if she wanted to write the story and do the character design because she was a fan of Kubo's radio program
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>>160549794
But Victor is an alien too
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>>160549712
They're not like Shinji and Kaworu though since those two never formed a romantic relationship. They had romantic feelings for each other, but like most canon m/m attractions in non-BL anime (Shin Sekai Yori, Kado, No. 6) their feelings never lead to anything and one or both of them gets cucked.
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>>160549903
>>160549794
>Kaworu is an alien.
Irrelevant. He has a male body, if he and Shinji fucked, it would be gay sex.
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>>160549822
No, you can't read because nowhere does it credit her over Sayo for anything other than original character designs. If they do, they are wrong.
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>>160549945
>No.6
>their feelings never lead to anything
They kiss twice and confess. Sure, they get separated in the end, but it's implied they'll meet again the future.

>SSY
Canon gay sex. Though SSY is not a love story, it's a sci-fi story in which everyone is bi.
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>>160549903
Exactly. It was never explicitly said that Victoru is human and the show goes to great lengths not to mention his parents/origins. Baldy is an alien. Canon.
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>>160549945
>hey're not like Shinji and Kaworu though since those two never formed a romantic relationship.
I mean they are like Shinji and Kaworu because everyone no homos them like retards.
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>>160548624
Sorry anon but it's taking me too much time to find it, it seems it disappeared I'm pretty sure it was translated by aki_the_geek but strangely she doesn't have the "moments" section anymore??
So take my words with a grain of salt if you want.
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>>160542773
Forgot one.
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>>160549990
Didn't the author attempt to no homo no.6? They said something about feelings being unclear if I remember correctly.
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>>160550128
Nah. That was one of Karice's no homo translations. She was already pretty infamous in other fandoms before she moved on to YOI. She gets off on no-homoing every possible gay couple, it seems
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>>160550128
No, she just said she thinks Shion loves Nezumi, but she doesn't know whatever Nezumi loves or is scared of Shion.
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>>160542310
>that freudian leap on slip 2
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>>160550189
>She gets off on no-homoing every possible gay couple, it seems

That's a weird hobby to have, she could just enjoy het series/ships in peace instead
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>>160550226
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>>160550189
Self-inserting females are 100 times worse than fujoshits, it seems.
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>>160549950

I don't think its relevant to Shinji's feelings (he attracted to both girls and boy in Evangelion), but I do think its relevant to Kaworu. (And Rei)

Like if its a genderswap hentai and the guy gets transformed into a girl and willingly gets gangbanged by a bunch of guys then its straight sex, the gangbangers are straight, but the guy-transformed-into-girl is gay. If its an alien and he takes a male human form and has sex with a boy its gay sex and the guy is gay (or bi in Shinji's case) but the alien is still an alien. This doesn't apply if the alien species already has a bs convenient male-female gender binary in place, but angels don't. My 2c.
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>>160549712
>They are just the new Shinji and Kaworu
Except Shinji and Kaworu had a canon love confession in the show and the creators directly confirmed they're fags for each other in the many interviews.

Sayo and Kubo don't even have the balls to do that. Then again, not everyone is as insane as Anno.
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>>160550526
Otsuka already did for Sayo.
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>>160550526
>Except Shinji and Kaworu had a canon love confession in the show and the creators directly confirmed they're fags for each other in the many interviews.
Yeah, that's why you fags no homo them for 17 years.

>>160550526
>Sayo and Kubo don't even have the balls to do that. Then again, not everyone is as insane as Anno.
Must be easy when the homo is dead.
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>>160550600
99.9% of the Eva cast is dead.

Anno called them fags 20 years ago and Sayo didn't. What's your excuse?
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>>160550526
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>>160541335
People don't deny they're gay. They're just reminding the Western fanbase that it's 100% fujoshit and not for LGBTBBQ+ like they seem to think it is.
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>>160550643
Easier for a man to call homos homos than a woman to do it. They get called delusional fujos if they do it. Otsuka said they were romantic.
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>>160550526
>Except Shinji and Kaworu had a canon love confession in the show and the creators directly confirmed they're fags for each other in the many interviews.
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>>160550643
>99.9% of the Eva cast is dead.
Except Asuka and Shinji. Oh, and Kaworu appeared only in one episode.

>Anno called them fags 20 years ago and Sayo didn't. What's your excuse?
Except Sayo and Otsuka did it over and over.
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Sayo has already said their relationship is ai but muh "different interperetations of love in nipponese!!!".
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>>160550643
And Sayo has to fought hard so the kiss scene can be inserted. Even all the sides try to stop her.
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>>160550643
Kek you act like Anno talks about kawoshin all the time. He was pretty offhanded about it in one interview and only one supplemental book referred to him as a love interest.
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Can we all agree that Yuri on Ice fans are the biggest cancer /a/ has had in years?
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>>160550526
when i watched eva years ago i was more of a normalfag and the love confession flew right upon my head, i don't think normalfags could watch yoi and don't think it's gay
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>>160550705
>They're just reminding the Western fanbase that it's 100% fujoshit and not for LGBTBBQ+ like they seem to think it is.
And that's fine.
But there is and there will always be who desperately grasp at straws to prove their heterosexuality.
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It's easy to say Kaworu and Shinji were courageous, but you also have to put them in-perspective. Sure, it was pretty ballsy, but at the end of the day, the homo only appeared in one episode and it was fucking DEAD.

You can't escape the homo in YoI, Victor and Yuri are central characters.


Also Jesus Christ, do people understand artists DON'T have freedom of expression? They have to deal with producers, sponsors, TV rating. Yuri and Victor are actually far more explicit and sexual than KawoShin when it comes to the sexual side of things.
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>>160550957
Then let them? You're not going to change them and it doesn't effect you.
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One episode from an Anime more than 20 years ago is gayer than all of Yuri on Ice combined. Fancy that.

Women writers have no balls, they just pussy around with fujobait.
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>>160550705
Everyone knows Japan doesn't have an opinion of homos. Like when Kubo said she doesn't tolerate homophobia
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>>160550705
>Update
So... denying the gay?
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>>160551018
nice bait
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>>160551018
>One episode from an Anime more than 20 years ago is gayer than all of Yuri on Ice combined. Fancy that.
No, it isn't.
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>>160551018
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>>160550905
Yeah, they should get a containment board.
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>>160550980
Yol was made and catered to fujoshits from the start. There's nothing courageous about putting pandering bait in it.

Whereas something like Eva with a huge otaku and waifufag fanbase getting suddenly hit over the head with canon gayshit in the final episodes is the biggest ballsy middle finger an Anime director can give.
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>>160551091
And yet, here you are :)
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>>160551083
underrated scene
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>>160550663

Nah angels are never suggested to have a binary. How Adam produced its children is left up in the air, but its never implied to be sexual unless you think there was another angel out there who fucked Adam pregnant before sending it to Earth.

And in that case Adam is now a girl alien??? And if Kaworu is Adam's human vessel now he is a girl alien in a male human body? That seems to make things more complicated. In fact Adam is sexless and Kaworu is a sexless alien in male human body.
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Why are you idiots still circlejerking whether it's gay or not gay?

They're fucking homos, end of story.

Hetfags: Just stop.
Homofags: Seriously, just stop as well. Your defensive behavior is what feeds the hetfags, Be smarter than this.
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>>160551123
I can assure the otaku and waifu fanbase didn't even notice the gay shit
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>>160551091
These bait threads don't help do they?
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>>160551178
This is what happens when tumblr finds /a/ and doesn't notice they're feeding trolls.
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>>160551183
Biggest lie in this entire thread thus far
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>>160551123
So ballsy they killed off the gay interest in one episode. Yep, real courageous...
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>>160551158
Adam and Lilith produce their children asexually

Since Kaworu is supposed to be a bit inspired from Ryo I wouldn't put it past Anno to claim he has a female soul, but that doesn't change the fact that Shinji sees him as male and fell in love with him as a male.
So while Kaworu's sexuality may be technically up for debate, Shinji is without a doubt bisexual.
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>>160551225
No, they definitely do not.
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I always put expensive Chanel lip balm on my best friend's chapped lips because we're bros and he would do the same for me.
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>>160551299
It's even more courageous. Apparently Anno got yelled at by the TV producer for showing a 14 year old boy getting beheaded on prime time television.
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>>160551123
So ballsy, fans are still denying the homo 20 years later. hmmmmm
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>>160551243
Most of the people I discussed Eva with irl only argued about Asuka vs Rei, Kaworu who?
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>>160551341
Does Bald do that before the Pig blows him?
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>>160551401
Of course, who wants chapped lips on their dick?
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>>160551394
Did you not see the picture of fans no homoing No.6?
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>>160550914
It's about as gay ass Free. In other words, not at all.
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>>160551459
Any form of gay will always be no homoed in some way.
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>>160551459
That's the point. Idiots will always no homo anything that could be gay. 20 years from now, some asshat will still deny baldfat is canon. So why are we still wasting time debating this?
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>>160551559
Because baldfat isn't canon. It's fujobait.
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>>160551459
Have you not been on /a/. I see the Eva Rei or Asuka which is better for shinji. Why do none of those threads have the Kaworu option if Eva is such a shining example of gay rep that the fan base recognizes.
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>>160551592
Found the asshat.
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Boy if I knew the next thread was gonna be this unfathomable I would have made one
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>>160551162
i love andou but why does bald look like he's wearing a wig in the second panel, don't feed the mean rumors!
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>>160551299

I think it was important because Kaworu was like this weird ideal, a literal alien who represented a totally alien form of love. Asuka I think shows much harsher and messier (uglier?) reality that Shinji needs to struggle with. Kaworu plays an important role but he had to die.

This is just the original series btw where Asuka/Shinji was endgame, the movies might end different but Kaworu still died who knows.
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>>160551599
It's only about the waifus.
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>>160551592
Explain. Kek
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>>160551599
>gay rep
Fuck off tumblr
I just said it was more ballsy, because it is.

Putting gayshit in a show for waifufags is a hundred times different from putting gayshit in a show for fujoshits.
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>>160551592
>>160550814
Sure they aren't.
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>>160551317

>So while Kaworu's sexuality may be technically up for debate, Shinji is without a doubt bisexual.

Yep I agree here, that was my original point.
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>>160551636
Because he's an old fuck.
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>>160551662
BaldFat are praying to eachothers dicks
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>>160551646
>getting choked is endgame
Kek.
In the original series Shinji only ever says he loves Kaworu.
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>>160549478
Did he secure the Hot Topic merchandise? If so he's absolutely based.
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>be gay
>sex in anime disgusts me
>drop a series the instant sex happens
>refuse to watch most yaoi for that reason
>mfw you fuckers are triggered, meanwhile YOI is perfect for me
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>>160551662
Because they haven't had sex on the ice yet. When they do they'll be recognized as actual gay.
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>>160551646
Biggest hunk of bullshit I ever read.
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>>160551762
Hot Topic had to get permission to make the gay shit so I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved.
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>>160551599
Because /a/ is majorly heterosexual males, of course they're gonna talk about the waifus you retard.
It's also why they hate you Yolfags so much and say you don't belong here.
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>>160551789
>"it's only an analogy!"
>"it's about how much they love the ice!"

Nothing will be enough
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>>160551863
Liking traps is gay.
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>>160551675
Flashing gay in front of hetmales and then killing it off 5secs later I s not ballsy it's weakass. Lol you want ballsy you keep the fag and not kill off the fag
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>>160541335
people just want to see the autistic fans get their panties in a bunch
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>>160551884
They could just, you know, say they love each other or kiss or something.
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>>160551884
>>160551789
D-do you think they like to play with ice and icepacks in bed?
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>>160551884
Yuuri will have to fuck Victor with an icicle
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>>160551939
You could just watch the goddamn show or something.
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>>160551918
The entire ending of Eva TV was so ballsy Anno got death threats.

An episode in front of "hetmales" is more than pandering to fujoshits. They even showed the gay scenes in the Yol trailer so people knew what they were getting into. Nothing courageous about it tumblr.
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>>160551918
Still way more ballsy than putting it in a show for fujos.
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>>160551963
They put ice cubes in each other's butts then suck out the melted poop fleck water
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>>160552013
I did and it was nothing but pussyfooting and being explicitly vague.

Don't even talk about censorship because there was a gay kiss in another anime airing that season.
Sayo has no balls and she's pulling all the fujoshits by a string.
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>>160552017
>got death threats

Which wasn't about homo
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>>160551939
Didn't they do that already, though? Oh, wait. It wasn't in your face obvious, so it doesn't count. Man, why didn't Sayo dumbed down the gay so the insecure hetfags could understand it
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>>160552033
>implying they don't do enemas before fucking
>implying they don't do it with ice water
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>>160551507
>It's about as gay ass Free. In other words, not at all.
What the fuck.
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>>160552033
>>160552089
2D boys don't poop.
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>>160552089
Does using ice water strengthen their spincters?
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>>160552105
Shut the fuck up retard
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>>160552064
>Vauge
Yeah the airport scene is so vauge.
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>>160551939
They have to say they love each other in at least 20 languages. One or two is not enough to be seen as canon.
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>>160552126
Don't take away the opportunity for Bald to develope more degenerate fetishes, you monster.
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>>160551863
>comes in thread saying Eva homoed better and fans recognized
>gets pointed out lack of homo talk in series just claimed had homo
>says of course only going to talk about het in series I just said was better with homo. YOI can take their weaker homo to /y/ even though it's a sports animu
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>>160552154
Or they could just say it in one.
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>>160552079
Because it's aimed at fujos, who like that kind of vague thing.

You know YoI isn't supposed to be some kind of revolutionary gay thing right? Nip gays don't even give a single fuck about the show. It's pure fujoshit.
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>https://myreadingmanga.info/heilari-matter-love-duty-eng/
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>>160552192
Not enough proof.
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>>160552154
>"they're studying more languages and learning phrases to use on future girlfriends!"

Still not enough
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>>160551939
>They could just, you know, say they love each other or kiss or something.
>Show about characters expressing their feelings on ice
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>>160552148
Yeah, actually. Just vague enough for fujos but safe enough for pussy Sayo.

>>160552189
I don't speak ESL, try again.
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>This whole thread
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>>160552201
>who like that kind of vauge thing
hetfags are so retarded
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>>160551863
> It's also why they hate you Yolfags so much and say you don't belong here.
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>>160552243
>let's use these arbitrary vague means to give fujoshits the impression that it's gay
Yeah, we saw this in Free already.
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>>160551730

Yeah getting choked is literally endgame, did you see the original? Well technically then she lifts up her own hand to caress him and Shinji starts to cry. They are both desperate for love, support and acceptance from each other but continually clash with each other.

Its great that Shinji "says he loves Kaworu" but Kaworu dies. And he kind of needed to die to fit the themes of Evangelion, because real love doesn't look like that, at least not in Eva.
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>>160552064
>Don't even talk about censorship because there was a gay kiss in another anime airing that season.
>Joke kiss is the same as gay kiss in your original anime series about two gay men
OK
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>>160552246
Just admit you didn't even fucking watch the show. Nothing about that scene is vauge.
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>>160552201
Oh, it's you Karice. Didn't recognize you. Sorry, gonna ignore from here on

(you really should change your discourse if you don't wanna be found out. What a retard)
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>>160552250
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>>160552201
>Because it's aimed at fujos, who like that kind of vague thing.
Not again.
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>>160552220
I-is that it? What a shit ending.

Him pissing on the pregnancy test was pretty hot though.
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>>160552339
Literally fucking who?

>>160552358
What does this image from a fujo magazine have to do with anything?
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>>160552301
>Vague
lol
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>>160552339

lol I thought I was Karice though?? Are we both Karice? How many Karices out there??? How can multiple people be Karice even though our opinions are different?
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>>160552234
Kek. Reminds me of that fic where Piggy got off to people no homoing him and Bald.
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>>160552392
>What does this image from a fujo magazine have to do with anything?
>Show put character homosexuality in plain text to the point hetfags can't deny him anymore
>He spike on popularity poll and all his merchandise get a boost

It proves you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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>>160552339
>discourse
tumblr pls go
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Both Eva and Yoi have gay shit in it. Its not a competition you annoying fujoshits.
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>>160552302
>Yeah getting choked is literally endgame, did you see the original?
Yeah, I saw Kaworu get choked first so I guess he's endgame.

>They are both desperate for love, support and acceptance from each other but continually clash with each other.
Which is true for every main character in the series. Nothing about the ending said they're endgame or romantic. Hence why the staff only ever talk about Shinji with Kaworu in a romantic light.

>And he kind of needed to die to fit the themes of Evangelion
Then why did Anno say he didn't have to die?

>because real love doesn't look like that
Look like what? Kaworu loved Shinji for who he was. The world isn't so black and white that everything is shitty and everyone is horrible. Anno never had the intention to show Kaworu as unrealistic, that's why Kaworu is one of the three people to convince Shinji to leave instrumentality in the first place as the symbol of love itself.
Nice interpretations but it doesn't fit with the canon show.
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>>160552201
Nip gays don't even give a single fuck about the show. It's pure fujoshit.

https://twitter.com/Mineko_TB/status/866252414944514048
https://twitter.com/izzyisozaki/status/866268259485724672


Gengoroh Tagame is an openly gay Japanese manga artist. Try again
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>>160552459
Eva's gay shit is actually canon though
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I've decided to add things to this collage, but it looks like I don't have enough Bald touching Piggy pictures. Can you give me official art that's not here?
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>>160552521
>Nip gays don't even give a single fuck about the show. It's pure fujoshit.
Woah, did you talk to all of them?
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>>160552525
>>160550814
I know you are blind.
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>>160552525
>Canon
>Dead
>Never got together
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>>160552521
What does this prove exactly?
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>>160552525
Not again
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>>160552611
Still gayer than Fujobait on Ice
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>>160552521
Wao! One whole opinion! If I went by the word of one burger does that mean they rep all of us. The Borg mind is real
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>>160552525
I'm pretty sure they are. Creator wanted to develop a romance between them, there's proofs here right in this shithole of a thread.
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>tfw you lived enough for people to accept Shinji and Kaworu as canon enuough to use it to troll another canon homo pairing
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>western yoifags actually think yoi is gay rep and not fujoshit
how cute
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Yuri on Ice wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Eva

>Anno greenlighted it
>Hiramatsu was forced to work on it

Say your thank yous, fujoshits.
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>>160552632
Except you can argue Kaworu and Shinji are pure fujobait. They confess, but never get together and Shinji ends up with Asuka.
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>>160552677
no one but dumblr thinks that
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>>160552579
It was a >quote
Read the actual post
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>>160552617
We're going around in circles. Let this thread die.
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Reminder the creators or Yuri on Ice are fujos and at least one of them does BL doujins.
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>>160552477

> Nothing about the ending said they're endgame or romantic.

The ending, by definition, is endgame. That is what "endgame" means. It doesn't mean "which ship is the most romantic" it means "what ship remains at the end". And Asuka/Shinji is what is left at the end, and their relationship is what the series ends on, as messy of a relationship as it is. What does Evangelion end on? Asuka caressing Shinji and Shinji breaking into tears. That is endgame of the original series.

Movies might end differently though, they are still ongoing and they made some differences to Asuka's characterization.

>Then why did Anno say he didn't have to die?

Who knows, maybe he just loves killing Kaworu?? For a guy who "doesn't have to die" he consistently gets killed in every version. Either way, death of the author who gives a shit.

>Look like what? Kaworu loved Shinji for who he was.

Love isn't one sided like that. Love, at least in Evangelion, is demanding and it is difficult. You don't just get that kind of love and support for doing nothing. The love offered by Kaworu is literally an alien love, one destroyed in the same episode it appears.
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>>160552717
It can't be fujobait if they confess, because that actually confirms their feelings.

>Shinji ends up with Asuka
KEK, literally how? By choking her? Try harder.
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>>160552781
Yeah, it's just flat out fujoshit, not fujobait. There's a difference.
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>>160552762
Who does the BL doujins?
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>>160552781
>It can't be fujobait if they confess, because that actually confirms their feelings.
Sure it can't. If nothing in YoI counts then the "confession" in Eva doesn't too.

>KEK, literally how? By choking her? Try harder.

By ending up on the beach with her as last living humans.
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>>160552803
I think it's the fat one. Kubo or whatever.
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>>160552781
>By choking her? Try harder.

but the scene didn't stop there, try harder
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>>160552643

It was a response to the generalization of nips
One of the gayest of all nips complimented YoI
Conclusion: It's not mere fujoshit
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>>160552064
Sayo had confirmed in her interview that she must fought hard so the kiss scene can be inserted, retard.

Go Yuri go page 62.
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>>160552762
this is a sjw argument
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>>160552847
"Better but still disconnected from everyday life" is barely a compliment.
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>>160552906
>"Better but still disconnected from everyday life" is barely a compliment.
You act like this is not true for most romance.
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>>160552693
>Eva invented homosexuality
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>>160552922
Still makes no sense to see it as a compliment.
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>>160552397
That's gay Yuuri.
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>>160552947
Because there isn't homophobia in their world
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>>160552847
By that logic, all the gay men liking BL and buying BL doujins means all fujoshit is not mere fujoshit. A gay magazine recently had a spread on recommended BL manga, I suppose they're also not fujoshit anymore.
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>>160553008
Still not making sense. Not addressing homophobia is a staple of BL.
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>>160552947
He only wants series with fat gay people experiencing homophobia, which is ironic coming from him when you look at 95% of his work.
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>>160552779
>The ending, by definition, is endgame
No, it literally isn't.
No ship remains at the end because Eva isn't a fucking harem.
The ending is a message of hope that people can make even the smallest step towards understand each other. There's nothing romantic or shippy in that and the ending is the farthest from that.
They were never the endgame and they never will be. Eva is not that kind of show.

Kaworu, like Kaji and Yui is part of the three romantic interests in the show to our main characters, and fulfills a similar role and dies in the same quick way as them. And Misato, Shinji, and Gendo have to continue forward despite their loved ones dying. (Even though Gendong doesn't and gets shitted on for it).

>death of the author who gives a shit
Excuses. Kaworu was never meant to be interpreted in that way, or else he wouldn't be side with Rei and Yui telling Shinji to leave escapism and instrumentality.

>Love isn't one sided like that.
Oh, I guess the love of a mother or father doesn't exist then.
If you actually paid attention to the episode, Kaworu tells Shinji he is flawed and tells him if he doesn't change he'll literally end up alone. Kaworu betrays Shinji, which is the eptimome of demanding and difficult. Shinji even compares him to his father. But Shinji still continues to love him even after Kaworu hurt him. That has nothing to do with alien love, that's the exact kind of love Eva encourages through its themes. To make contact and form relationships despite the possibility of being hurt. And Shinji does exactly that with Kaworu, and that's why in the show and Manga, Kaworu is the only one Shinji ever loves.
There is no endgame, but there is always Kaworu as Shinji's sole romantic love interest.
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>>160552781
>>160550814
And the staff already confirmed the romance between baldfat but I guess you just skip this and scream bait all the time right? Not like you have an actual argument here.
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kawoshin panders towards fujos so its fujoshit too. canon or not if its gay it will be marketed towards them.
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>>160553018
Kek the gay nips I know prefer bl that's written by fujo
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>>160553018
He is openly gay and won an award for a manga about the acceptance of gay people

Just admit your nip generalization is shit
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>>160552798
It can't be fujoshit, it was made by a man

>>160552820
Except there was no confession in Yol.
And that's not endgame. That's just two people surviving.

>>160552840
Ah, yes, she calls him disgusting.
So romantic. Much endgame.
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>>160553118
But what did you prove, exactly?
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>>160552882
And she still covered it up and called it a hug-kiss scene.
No balls.
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>>160552935
Most gayshit in Anime the past 20 years is at least somewhat inspired by Kaworu and Shinji.
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>>160553169
>hug-kiss scene

Sayo has never said that dipshit
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>>160553059
>Not addressing homophobia is a staple of BL.
Who gives a shit. This isn't BL, it's a sport anime.

There are enough stories about gays being miserable.
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>>160553106
>kawoshin panders towards fujos
Nope. 20 years ago Eva's fanbase was a bunch of otaku, there were no fujos watching. Anno put it in anyway because he gives no fucks and wanted it there.
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>>160553222
It might as well be BL, since it was made by fujos and aimed at fujos.
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>>160553066
>No ship remains at the end because Eva isn't a fucking harem.

I'm a Kaworu fan, but you gotta be a retard if you think people give a shit about Kaworu. To them, Kaworu dying was the best thing because then they could ship him with Asuka again.
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>>160553167
That it's not true gay nips didn't notice YoI

Admit you're wrong already
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>>160553204
It's in the official book as a hug scene.
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>>160553201
Yeah right. I won't deny that Eva was influential but Reiko Takemiya even more so.
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>>160553233
Why are you suddenly forgetting all the female fans that would write nice letters to Anno throughout the original airing. Very selective memory.
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>>160553115
>Kek the gay nips I know prefer bl that's written by fujo
I mean, the whole argument is idiotic, it's not there is a difference between gay overseases and here.


>>160553129
>Except there was no confession in Yol.
All those times Yuri said he loved Victor and talk about Victor love.
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>>160553233
Nowadays it does
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>>160553282
>a mangaka keeps up with anime and manga
Wow. You sure showed them.

Even in his response he barely cares about it and barely complimented it.
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>>160553257
I never said anything like that?
What does that have to do with my post?
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>>160553247
>It might as well be BL, since it was made by fujos and aimed at fujos.
This is like saying every romance is Hentai.
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>>160553288
>actually believes Saying Kubo wrote and edited all the content
>forgets this is the same publisher that censors the rings
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>>160553344
What? You realise not all BL is porn, right?
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>>160553293
They weren't fujos. They were just females, dude.
The Eva staff even said they weren't even considering Kaworu would be popular with the females because the schedule was so crazy, they didn't have time to think they just shat out content.
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>>160553329
So you're just going to ignore he called it a love story between two men in the world of fs kek

Gtfo already
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>>160553169
Thats Kubo not Sayo retard. Even Otsuka have different opinion. And Kubo already said in her Twitter about that scene linked to a Japanese drama when the couple got their first kiss. Until people harrased her and she being coy.

You know you dont have any argument when you repeatedly scream bait and no balls.
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>>160553314
But back then it wasn't, which makes it more ballsy and courageous than Yol will ever be.

>>160553364
Oh yeah, the club member rings. So gay.
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>>160545897
>explicitly platonic relationship
literal what

Are you one of those tumblr people who talks about platonic dating and fucking?
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>>160553247
But its not tagged as BL so it's not. No matter how retarded you want to be about it.
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>>160553416
You're not even making sense.
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>>160553393
>They weren't fujos. They were just females, dude

They weren't otaku, they were only men!
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>>160553433
>club member rings
She said it's a representation of everything including their status as soulmates.
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>>160553247
BL (and love stories in general) is at its best when there is a separate plot than just "will they or won't they" and a universe that acts as a catalyst to the love story.
>yoi (ice skating)
>saezuru (mafia chess gang war keikakus)
>eva (kaiju of the week with mechas)
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>>160553425
Even after that she was cheering about the kiss in the commentary. She shitposts are the homo all the time but one vague tweet somehow makes everything else moot?
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>>160553476
Eva had a huge waifufag following though.
There was no fujo following big enough for Anno to suddenly think up Kaworu.
Anno had planned to add in Kaworu since the proposal.
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>>160553444
>looks like BL
>written like BL
>marketed like BL
Even if it's not "tagged", the intentions are pretty clear.
>>
Wow this thread is horrible. Just let it die already, people. We don't even need a YoI thread until more new leaks from the museum come out.
>>
Can you retards stop being baited and ignore the troll already?
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>>160553295
>All those times Yuri said he loved Victor and talk about Victor love.
I could point out the same exact lines in Free. The way they stated it was pure fujobait and it never went anywhere.
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>>160553508
not sure who I meant to quote but it wasn't you, my bad.
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>>160553527
>Marketed as BL
No its fucking not. The gayest shit Victors ever done in promos was hold his shoulder, they have to be babysat by a 16 yr old half of the time.
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>>160553541
tell that to the tumblrinas that want to prove to trolls that their shitty anime is revolutionary gay rep
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>>160553455
> ignores the overall reaction to the show and proof that even a big name gay nip considers it a love story between two men, simply restricted to the context of figure skating cos no shit it's a sports anime
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>>160553557
Yeah Victor saying they'll get married means nothing
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>>160553574
>advertised in fujo stores and fujos magazines instead of regular otaku places
>not marketed like BL
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>>160552836
No she doesn't.
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>>160553527
>Canon gay romance that plays an integral role in a sports series
>directed by a woman

"It's BL!"

>bl themes in a mecha series that only lasts 13 mins and is killed off
>directed by a man

"Wow so brave and real!"
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>>160553257
I'm not a Kaworu fan, if anything I'm an Asukafag.
OP asked about Yol being gay and I'm giving my honest opinion.
It's not and never will be.

Leave the gay to Eva.
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>>160553610
Its not if the couple has to stand far apart and not be all over each other.
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>>160553606
And Yuuri denying it means everything.
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>>160552693
Hiramatz has been giving us gay gold for 20 years. He's the true hero of the free world
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>>160553610
You do realize Animate advertises all animu right? As it's an anime store.
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>>160553631
>There can only be one homo anime in existance!!
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>>160553548
Nope, every fucking times it always end likes this.
I don't know they are that stupid or just bored and want to play with troll.
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Please just learn to ignore bait.
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>>160553618
It's not canon and it's extremely fetishized.

At least Kaworu and Shinji were based off of Anno's own faggot fantasies.
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>>160553586
>overall reaction to the show
The ones losing their shit over things were Westerners. Even Kubo was confused by Western reaction. Literally irrelevent,

Nothing you have said has proven anything about the original point. The Japanese see this show as regular fujoshit, not some great LBGT work that some people here seem to think it is.
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>>160553654
Yuuri denied it before when Phichit said they were married, not after you dipshit.
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>>160553654
He never denied it
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>>160553557
>I could point out the same exact lines in Free

Please do.
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>>160553669
Hiramatsu likes Kawoshin more than Baldfat
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>>160553686
>fetishized

Funny hearing that from an Annofag
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>>160553686
Yeah lets ignore the staff saying its canon.
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>>160553732
Anno basically just animated his closet homolust experiences

Sayo and Kubo just let out their unrealistic fujoshit fantasies onto two male characters that act like PMSing girls.
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>>160553731
Wow, even Hiramatsu's Kawoshin drawings are gayer than his Baldfat ones
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>>160553731
Kawoshin was his past. Baldfat is his present and future!
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>>160553686
New Ikuhara anime when?
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Why does /a/ suddenly care about fetishizing shit? Take that shit to tumblr already.
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>>160552220
I was hoping this was a Peachy P and Bike doujin. This is just shit.
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>>160553850
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>>160553695

http://gogoeeg.tumblr.com/post/157324907104/roundtable-interview-with-sayo-yamamotos-friends
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>>160541335
never browsed yuri threads but this one caught my attention

did anyone in those threads ever actually denied them being gay? wew lads thats hilarious
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>>160553885
>tumblr
>not even translated, just their word
Sure. Also should have known I was dealing with a literal tumblrina.
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>>160553882
Lets hope bald doesn't die a tragic death ;_;
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>>160553964
I hope he does just so I can watch the hilarious fall out.
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This thread is hilarious.
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>>160553795
Figure skaters and athletes are emotional beings with their ass on the line. Of course they express emotions.
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>>160553917
Yes, every times.
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Imagine being so retarded that you spend 477 posts falling for bait
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>>160553957
>Spouts a lot of bs as if it where facts, doesn't even give sauce when asked for it.
>Calls others tumblrinas

HI-LA-RI-OUS.
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>>160553991
This.
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>>160552906
>>show a realistically homophobic world
>Fuck off, you're homophobic because you're writing a world where gays are treated as trash!

>>show idealistic homophobia-free world
>Fuck off, you're whitewashing the violence and oppression experienced by gays!

>>homos fuck
>Fuck off, you're stereotyping gays as sex obsessed perverts!

>>homos don't fuck
>Fuck off, you're playing it safe and making them no homo friends!

>>market only gay stories written by homos for homos
>Fuck off, you're keeping gays out of mainstream media to please homophobes!

>>market gay stories written by anyone for everyone
>Fuck off, you're fetishizing gays as fap fuel for straighties!

Westernshits, you literally can't win with them.
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>still responding to hetfags
>all this eva discussion
>484 posts
what the fuck did i wake up to
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5OXON8vIaA
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>>160553957
They're a translator on twitter that everyone here knows, just the post is on tumblr. Are you that afraid of admitting you're wrong?
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>>160554051
B-But... who would give the piggy all the love he deserves then? ;_;
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>>160554078
They should get hired to do official art
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>>160554095
a bait thread with no purpose but to stir shit and let out rage
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You're all missing the important things in life, like the coming of this.
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>>160554135
Kaworu.
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>>160554142
They should, just for the fact they draw Pig so slutty.
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>>160554026
At this point I think they're just having fun trolling the trolls desu. No one can be that retarded
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>>160553885
>this is different from most awful BL in the lack of discrimination and it avoids how BL likes to play discrimination [homophobia] for laugh as if it’s ~funny~

You know, I read a lot of BL, including in Japanese, and I can't remember the last time I've seen something like this in a BL work.

Most of it is similar to how it's approached in YoI, where everyone is blissfully living gay without any of the RL problems of being gay. That's one of the biggest criticisms of it from gay folk even.

When people go on about this type of thing, I always wonder what they're using as reference, or if they're just talking by stereotypes they've heard of the genre or only a few things they read.
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>>160554172
Can't. He's dead too.
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>>160552572
What about this one? Sorry for the ant quality
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>>160554172
Does he has 14inch dick to satisfy the Pig? Its minimum requirement.
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Kill jj where are you?
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>>160554329
Does his dick become 24 inches when it becomes fully erect?
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>>160554169
>Footfagging
Wew. I hope he's kissing Piggy thighs afterwards.
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>>160554329
He's a bit larger than that.
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>>160553917
Of course. For pretty much as long as it aired.
Now it's almost certainly all bait though, but "back in the day", it didn't sound like it. But then again even the most hopeful of us had no idea the gay would go all the way.
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>>160553964
Kubo said no tragic shit like injuries would happen. Vicchan dying is as graphic as it will get
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>>160554282
Perfect. This was one of the first ones actually.
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>>160554366
Last thread said to let JJ live and looked what happened. I hope we all learned a valuable lesson that JJ needs to been killed at the end of each thread.
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>>160554366
He hasn't been around for a while, I hope he's okay. I tried to kill JJ once and killJJ anon blasted my impostor ass.
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>>160554255
I can't even remember any anime let alone BL implying homophobia is funny. I don't feel like reading the post but are they one of those people who think joking *about* a topic equals calling it funny and don't realize it can be a way of fighting back?
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>>160553115
A lot of Japanese gay men in general don't really have much of a problem with BL beyond "it's kinda girly".

http://takureinoroom.com/2016/09/14/wn-4-gay-men-boys-love/
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>>160554492
It was pretty impressive to watch
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>>160554396
I can't even see the dick. You know you should have at least 14inch and as thicker as soda can to satisfy the Pig.
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See you Next Level
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>>160554553
Free us please.
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>>160554402
There are too many no homoers to all be trolls though. Face it, hetfag goggles are just welded on in some cases, even supposed fujos.
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>>160554521
I respect him a lot. He should come back.
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>>160554574
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>>160554553
>jean-jacques
Is this real life?
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>>160554561
It's about the size of 5 empire state buildings when Kaworu is in giant form
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Kill JJ please
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We
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>>160554730
See you guys that was a nice thread
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Were
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>>160554728
And he can't fuck the Pig in his giant form.

14inches or never.
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Born
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To
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>>160554935
Make
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History
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>>160554515
interesting. westerners really are just a bunch of piss baby faggots.
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>>160545869
bless you anon, that's hilarious
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>>160541335
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>>160545897
that's why free should stay in the trash it belongs to be
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>thread is more about Evangelion than YoI
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>>160555545
Yeah, it's pretty hilarious how tumblrinas take anonymous bait "denial" seriously.
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>>160554515
Here's an interesting follow up:
http://takureinoroom.com/2016/09/22/wn-5-fujyoshi-boys-love/
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>>160556156
more of a circlejerk over who's show is gayer
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>>160554282
Fairy's hair really has grown. I wonder how often Vitya gets is hair cut.
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Last for Kawoshin
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>>160554515
>the insensitive type that worship the idea of “lofty, pure love” and try to force this ideal upon real gay men

Interestingly this sounds just like SJWs that freak out over "problematic" shit.
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>>160557030
yeah the "my ship is more pure and wholesome than yours uwu ur morally evil for liking flawed characters" types.
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