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Stop discriminating Evil alignments.
All alignments are beautiful!
Renner will be celebrated as Hero and Savior of the Re-Estize Kingdom.
Don't drag TL quality flame here.
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>>160538115
What character am I if I do both good or evil things?
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Who is best girl and why is it Albedo?
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>>160538205
Depends on why I think, what was about that thought experiments where you have to let the whole orphanage burn or an army of demons will descend on world and destroy it?

Every alignment have a definition in DnD, I think Lawful Good won't be able to kill the orphans and keep the alignment, while everybode else will be.
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>>160538205
True neutral or chaotic neutral. Also, technically, all alignments can do both but they don't usually do so.
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>>160538222
It's obviously Shalltear.
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>>160538252
I think chaotic evil would lose their alignment as well if they did good things.
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>>160538296
Eh, how do you count a "good deed" in DnD?
If you save a ship of sinking refugees only to have more sacrifices fuel your city-wide magic ritual later - does first action count as good?
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>>160538326
How do you determine the quality if any deed? It's pretty much up to the DM.
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>>160538343
>up to the DM
>not letting dice to roll intensifies
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>>160538269
Chaotic part always confuses me. I know that lawful characters follow "the code" but how would not following it work?
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>>160538380
>not being a DM and using fake dice rolls just to psychologically torture your players or blame fake dice rolls for your completely shitty treatment of your players
The first thing I learned as a DM is to make fake dice rolls all the time. Players always start freaking.
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>>160538417
It's basically morality (individual gut feeling) versus ethics (established group rules).
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>>160538380
>rollplaying
>not roleplaying
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>>160538115
>Renner
>chaotic
>neutral
No. She is Lawful Evil.
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>>160538115
>No chaotic lawful group.
Shit alignments.
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>>160538485
>Lawful Evil
And what code she cares about?
I didn't get the expression that she cares about any rules at all.
Maybe only valuing Climb could count.
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>>160538115
anyone have a link to the old translated versions?
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>>160538541
>expression
*impression FML
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>>160538518
>chaotic lawful
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>>160538417
Basically it determines how the characters try to be good or evil. Lawful means they express their good, evil, or neutrality through a group or cooperatively. Chaotic means they do so individually. Neutral could go either way or both.
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>>160538541
So she's Deviant Evil?
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>>160538555
Are those old enough for you?
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>>160538577
>He doesn't know about the "Lawful" (only) alignment.
Try assembling the Rod of Seven parts and see what happens to your character.
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>>160538597
yes please!
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>>160538115
Did DnD abandoning the law-chaos/good-evil axis work out in the long run? I mean the biggest issues from it is Lawful Good being treated as Lawful Stupid, Chaotic Neutral being the "I don't care about RP" zone, and Chaotic Evil being Chaotic Stupid
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I want Clem back bad, when will So-bin magic finally deliver?
>CATCLEM FANFIC V1.2.1
https://pastebin.com/ih6M7QBf
>>160538696
You might want to read the fanfic until the very end.
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>>160538979
thanks so much
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>inhuman heteromorph only PK guild
>born out of resistance of heteromorphs to human Players PKing them
>Engrave hatred towards humans almost in every NPC in the Nazarick
>Create a human NPC
Why couldn't those no-lifers from AOG be consistent and create no human guild?
With Lastborn they created a precedent that allowed that hypocrite lizard gigolo Sebas to bring his throt Tsuare and drag her filth all over the glorious SB domain.
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>>160539265
>Create a human NPC
Who?
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>>160538879
Personally, I don't think the axis alignment system is all that bad as it is. DMs and players just have problems roleplaying a lot of the time. Sometimes that means getting too stuck in the idea of being boxed into your alignment, and other times it means not playing the alignment well. Really, in the end it is just a loose structure for identifying a character's morality and values in a world of definite moralities and values. A world that can affect you based on them too. Flawed, sure, but workable
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>>160539292
lastborn
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>>160539292
He's talking about Lastborn, but do we really even know her race yet? Do we know for a fact that she is human?
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>>160539292
Pleiades 7th sister.
Immortal 100lvl human, supposedly Cherry Blossom Area Guardian.
Looks like default Miko, never leaves Nazarick, chills at 8th floor, controls Teleport and Gates in Tomb, protects staff of AOG.
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>>160539334
>>160539339
>>160539364

You mean Aureole Omega? She's not a typical human. She's an immortal.
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>>160539339
Yes, it's been said somewhere in LN that she is human, albeit immortal one so everyone give her a discount for that point too.
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>>160539376
A humie is a humie, immortal or not.
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Reminder
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>>160539364
>100lvl human
>100lvl
Nice headcanon
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Stop it: >>160538316
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>>160539467
Pretty sure it was specified somewhere in LN too.
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>>160539467
Have you tried reading the bottom of the pictures >>160539364 >>160539532 ?
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>>160539485
Calm down and enjoy, Jircniv.
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>>160539618
Anon, even though I posted those pics - those are likely fanart, not official art.
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>>160539618
It is not specified who that is.
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>>160539755
>Maruyama constantly hints along the lines
>Miko there miko here
>Girl in cherry blossom garden watches you when you teleport
>She's an exception since she's immortal human
>You can't activate the 7-star pleiades without Ainz approval
>Cherry Blossom Area Guardian safekeeping AOG staff

You've got to be able to make conclusions on this level anon, don't be that "it's headcanon because author did not state it directly" kind of shit.
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>>160539364
You forget to add that she fuck kitsunes all day and have yokoi subordinates
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>>160540285
Probably most chill job of all guardians
>never leave Nazarick created by your beloved SB
>protect most magnificent and important item SB ever created
>control teleports in Nazarick so no one drags you into politics lest they end up in Kyouhukou den on their way to lunch
>get to fuck cute youkai kitsune shotas all day long
>enjoy Cherry Blossom all year long
>get to hang out with Rubedo, Victim and whatever the fuck else inhabits 8th floor

Albeit the interactions are probably limited to a few word you have time to say before they rush you.
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>>160539437
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Why does this pic make me so hard?
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What does the Empire being a Vassal State actually entail?
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>>160541153
Depends of the treaty. Can just be "no foreign policy without telling us". or it can be "you rule yourself but all our laws must be followed".
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>>160541153
Whatever the Empire wants. Usually it's obedience or tribute in return for protection.
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>>160541476
>Whatever the Empire wants
Did you mean SKAOG?
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>>160541580
Yes. My bad. But with Ainz who knows?
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>>160539659
Fanart art? So your saying that images is a fanart then?
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>>160539755
Why do you have to wait until the author say so. Some in his blog or interview, he was surprised that no one is shocked that Renner was affiliated to Nazarick since there was hint in Vol. 5-6, the readers wasn't surprised of this development.
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>>160540676
I like Overlord He-Man better.
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>>160540676
>>160542279
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Any confirmation on what day in august this book is coming out? I'll probably buy it and take shitty pictures with my phone if no one else does
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>>160542045
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2114075
>ainz ooal gown, albedo, aura bella fiora, cocytus, demiurge, and others (overlord (maruyama)) drawn by so-bin
>http://overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/File:Overlord_7_spread2.jpg

It seems to be official So-bin art, wasn't able to find it on his twitter.
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>>160542351
>Any confirmation on what day in august this book is coming out?
>on what day in august this book is coming out
>on what day in august
>august

You wish.
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>>160542542
isnt it? I thought it was august 2017, the last LN said
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>>160542579
It remains to be seen, but judging by the lack of any kind of PR or Amazin preorders - those were author's personal dates and publisher thinks different.
Maybe they'll wait for S2 and then release 2 volumes to boost the profits.
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>>160542644
>having to wait for an anime only just announced last season until another volume
Why live?
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>>160543069
S2 made by NUTS?
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>>160542493
It's from Vol 7, of course he wouldn't publish it on his twitter.

I remember that artwork being around when the translation started (around vol 8).
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One more month until volume 12. Anyone else excited?
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>>160545101
Yes. No. I don't know. Can you repeat the question?
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>>160545101
I am excited since it was confirmed that it will be a 2-volume-long arc.
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>>160545101
>1 month
How do you know?
There are no advertisement and August is tomorrow.
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Who were other two AOG members who came online on the last day of Yggdrasil?
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>>160545339
Herohero was one. Don't know the other.
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>>160545272
It's probably a full month from now or early Sept.
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>>160545546
>probably
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>>160545577
I cope by RP-ing as Ainz in games, took me ages to get a proper nick though.
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>>160545934
What games that might be?
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>>160545955
Master of Magic or Eternal League of Nefia(Can go wild with customization if you want)
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>>160546036
>nip rogue rpg
You have my respect.
I mostly recap and write shitty short fanfics.
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>>160539364
>>160539376
>>160540285

Actually, based on Yuri's thoughts, I believe a lot have changed.

Yuri was thinking about her as a cute little sister. My guess it she is now a loli miko.
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>>160546191
>tfw just started writing
>still don't have a story
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>>160547025
Yuri is Yamaiko's typical onee-san.
Everyone is little sister to her if they're not her superior.
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>>160546191
>spoiler
I do exactly that too, are you me?
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>>160547090
>everyone is little sister

>Thinks Lupu is a little puppy in her arms
>Thinks Narberal is a little egg face humanoid in her arms
>Thinks CZ is a little doll in her arms
>Thinks Entoma is a..well..uh..

Kinda funny if you think about it.

inb4 her orphanage gets burnt to the ground.
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>tfw vol 12 is an enri vol
>jaldabaoth kills fake ainz and turns the place into a hell to make people realize ainz's merciful rule
>in comes enri with her 5K gobs, go-gin, lizards, blue rose, momon and dwarf runes to save ainz's body
>enri levels up like crazy and even blocks a blow of jaldaboath with her superior muscles
>enri wins easily, jaldaboath is driven back and ainz is 'revived', he makes her a general of the sorcerous kingdom and gives her the holy kingdom as a reward
>demi falls into depression that his plan has been corrected by ainz again, 'sasuga' in a low key sad tone
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>>160548253
The Holy Kingdom arc will take 2 volumes, 2 VOLUMES.
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>>160548253

>level up like mad

Soon we gonna have a 15k army.

What monsters actually somewhat belongs to the goblin genome?

Orcs?
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>>160548364
It was said that the 2nd part will be a much shorter wait since it's all already written.
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It's almost august
NEW VOLUME WHEN
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>>160548531
Sooooo what? It's still 2 volumes! I was afraid it would get the treatment of lizardmen and dwarves (the standing army of 100, lol), you know.
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It's August now in Nips land. Leaks where ?
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You think we'll see any other players and non-native NPCs?

Watching them be OP is fun in all, but it'd be nice to see something give Nazarick a real challenge
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>>160549332
Maybe for the "final boss", but it stay a maybe. Overlord isn't really that kind of story.
I think we have better chance of Albedo being the final boss
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>>160548253
>enri vol
That's not half bad.
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>>160549332
>non-native NPCs
We've seen the Tree already.
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>>160539265
Nigga, Lastborn being (immortal) human had nothing to do with it.
Tsuare got allowed to Nazarick because she was Ninya's sister and Ainz decided Sebas bringing her was a karma or something.
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>>160548253
>Local defeating a level 100

It's not gonna happen.
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>>160549332
Aren't the armors in the Floating city NPCs or Golems? Also, some of the Demon Gods were just sealed, so there is a chance of Nazarick stumbling into any of them.
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>>160549451
I kinda had in mind something that can push back, so Ainz is forced to use genuine diplomacy to not start a war there's a chance he won't win.

Part of Aniz's appeal is that he isn't an idiot and knows things can't always be in his favor.
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>>160549512
>>160549596
I was thinking player created NPCs
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>>160549332
We might not see players but we definitely should see NPCs. Some of them that lived after their players died or whatever. Now that would be interesting.
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>>160549569
If it has a stat, it can be killed
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>>160546036
>DL Elona to try it out
>Go Lich race, Wizard class
>The Sorcerer alias pops up
>Start game
>Do what seems to be tutorial
>End up eating a human's corpse apparently
>Wasn't supposed to, tutor taken aback I actually ate it
>madman.png
>Continue
>Get my shit kicked in by bunch of putits
>hit up the game wiki, they're literally the 2nd weakest shits in the game, right above snails
>Exactly how Momonga had his ass kicked in Yggdrasil
I suppose I had to run away from those?
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>>160551098
>P O T T E R Y
Susuga, Ainz-sama.
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>>160549683
Not by these guys.
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>>160540809
If Solution had more levels could she be a ninja? How hard would you have to hit her to daze her?
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>>160549569
>defeating
>is suddenly equal to blocking one blow
Anon I
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>>160548253
>'sasuga' in a low key sad tone
Sasugas are never sad anon.
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>>160548435
Orcs and goblins are different species inb4 tolkien fags then there's hobgoblins which are bigger goblins and ogres are their own thing.
There's Trolls too but they're usually bloodthirsty evil so they don't get along, that doesn't seem to be the case in overlord though, Enri vs Troll Kingdom for another vol?
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>>160551787
I think ninja is a bit more combat-oriented class than her assasin, but sure, prerequisite for that class was 60+ level I think.
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>>160552194
Did you say goblins?
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>>160552264
>Solution wears an S&M outfit
>Homunculli maids are masochists
>Herohero enjoys being a corporate slave
Was Herohero a pervert?
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>>160552785
My headcanon is that he was IRL assassin or something like that. Sol is too damn professional and NPC tend to inherit personalities.
And she is not masochistic in the slightest(at least no indication so far).
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>>160553086
>HeroHero
>Assassin
Nah, he was just a diligent businessman with solid ethics.
But Punittoe Moe could've easily been some sort of corporate IT security architect or PMC intelligence officer.
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>>160553086
>not masochistic
She's a sadist so typical dominatrix, because he was a pervert who likes to be dominated.
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>>160553356
>Nah, he was just a diligent businessman with solid ethics.
Good cover. The reason why he showed up was the fact that Momonga was one of the few real friends. Well, that's my headcanon,
so no point to argue, I guess.

>But Punittoe Moe could've easily been some sort of corporate IT security architect or PMC intelligence officer.
Quite possible. He more or less had written full-fledged ROE for AoG members.
>>160553506
Fair point, but only it's explicitly written in her sheet.
If it isn't then he was a sadist.
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>>160553626
>PunnitoMoe a PMC intelligence officer
>TM was a high ranking police agent
>Ulbert was a revolutionary leader
>Peroronchino had connections in the deep web
>Blueplanet was an ecoterrorist
What if everyone was playing a complex 4D backgammon while Ainz was just role-playing as Skeleton?
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>>160553966
>And all the while they thought he was something even greater.
History is cyclic.
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>>160554290
>something even greater
He did get to the NW, maybe he's special in some sense? I mean parents died in childhood leaving him orphaned, tried to love a quiet and discreet life without socializing with anyone, that's like a special-one background.
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>>160554483
>love
*live
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>>160553966
The only reason why Nazarick NPS are so awesome is due to their creators being competent IRL badasses who played the game for recreational purposes.
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>>160554483
>It was all an experiment
>AOG were fake friends to Ainz
>They copied his personality over Momonga character in new-gen quantum simulation
>To experiment with morality and influence on power on individuals
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>>160554483
True. Maybe they were secretly sent to help him?
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>>160554581
>they spent all that time making Nazarick perfectly secure and runnable by one person was to set up Momonga for success
>the NPCs are all so zealous because they were intentionally designed that way it wasn't an accident
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>>160554483
>>160554581
>>160554682
>See you again somewhere
He'll drop in to check on experiment.
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>>160554581
>Albedo could tell it was a copy and rejected it
>Albedo found a way to contact the original world
>"Send us the original Momonga or else."
>blackmailed the developers to make it impossible for Momonga to log out last day
>use magic and quantum tomfoolery to bring him into the game
>only thing is she didn't expect him to stay on his own accord and alter her settings
>realized the other players were treating him like crap
Doesn't change the story too much but... well...
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>>160554682
>Yggdrasil was a psy-op to investigate people with unusual brain wave patterns
>The "special ones" had their consciousness stolen and set in a super computer for further analysis, their physical bodies we're disposed by special agents to cover the whole thing
What now?
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>>160554932
>What now?
I'll tell you what now. He already escaped the computer. Momonga found a quantum pocket and literally created his own world.

>Agents find a way to get in.
>Attempt to kidnap Ainz.
>All literal hell breaks loose when the NPCs find out and realize there's a way back into Ainz's world.
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>>160555012
>They try to bring back his consciousness to put it on a quantum computer
>Bring the whole Ainz Ooal Gown back
How fucked is Shadowrun?
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>>160554932
Supercomputers don't have enough processing power.

>their consciousness are transferred into a digital space
>the purpose for the experiment was to create digital worlds and be free of the physical limits
>only take players that will not be missed by anyone even if they disappear
>ainz's influence grows way too big and they must now stop it
>squads of gov special ops infiltrate the digital space with their shut down cheats but little did they know that this space was already far beyond their control
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>>160555220
>They find a new NPC who washed up out of the ocean.
>Treat his wounds, even though his body seems to be made of crystalline cubes, and ask where his Supreme Being is and what happened.
>Ainz: What's your name?
>NPC: My name is Tron and I fight for the Users.
Turns out Ainz was in a simulation but not the type everyone thinks.
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When ?
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>>160555558
I think Climb will become a Paladin and eventually come to hate everything that isn't human.
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>>160556498
>Golden Princess
>Considers her a Goddess
>Suddenly learn divine spells
>Can cast "Golden" Series spells
>Breaks through 30lvl Wall
>Can fuck up Gagaran 1v1
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>>160556717
It's already been stated that he has no magical talent.
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>>160554290
>>And all the while they thought he was something even greater.
>They couldn't get anything on the dude
>Literally doesn't exist on the grid
>Only reference or lead is a bait or a trap in form of some run down apartment building
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>>160556957
EE admitted she can only gauge his potential for Arcane magic, for Spirit and Divine he'd need to consult with respective users.
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>>160557109
If EE goes to E-Rantel what are the chances she runs into Shalltear or Yuri?
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>>160557750
>Shalltear
Zero, her appearance is too widely known to let her stroll out in the open.
>Yuri
Eh, close to zero.
Security net around E-Rantel should take at least this much into consideration and hide Disturbance participants from anyone who saw their masked appearance.
I also think Yuri would wear a disguise similar to Narberal to hide her armamets.
Maids were masked when fighting in Capital, so EE shouldn't recognize any of them from afar.
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>>160557750
Shalltear is stuck in Naz now but Yuri could possibly run into her while getting things for the orphanage.
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>>160538115
Man, Overlord is pretty tragic.

It's that kind of show where you can sort of see inklings of a decent, cool show, and then you can practically notice the exact moments the creator realized "Alright, now I've gotta water it down with fan-service and fap-bait, or else it nobody will care."

And that's pretty much a good microcosm of the entire industry.
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>>160558016
To further expand upon this after having thought about it, should the Golden Princess come to E-Rantel she might want to see it and it wouldn't be a stretch for EE to go with her on the off chance of seeing Momon.
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>>160558016
>>160557920
Doesn't Shalltear run a dragon airline now? Maybe she also leaves Nazarick more frequently now.
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>>160558288
Don't see as to why she would leave. ATCs don't leave their cubes. She more than likely just authorizes flights and investigates should one be late or even then it might be one of her minions who do that.
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>>160558445
>why she would leave
She fucks the stewardess obviously, she probably organizes sex trips now, how would having Shalltear as captain work out?
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>>160558545
These aren't 747s. There is only so much room on it. It's almost certain that one of her minions with the [Message] skill actually captains one and then relays with another such minion what is going on while Shalltear keeps over everything.
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>>160558725
>747s
Just wait, Ainz will invent it or breed bigger dragons with the help of the Beast Ranger Cum Tamer
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>>160558545
>Be proud Frost Dragon Lord
>Have a nice harem
>Plenty of minions doing your bidding
>Have strong sons
>And one autistic one
>Your minions get fucked up one day by sone new allies of bearded stumps
>Weak-ass minions run to you with their tale between legs whining how it's your duty to protect them for tribute paid
>Annoyed, but decide to sent your hikki son do deal with it
>He can probably deal with whatever dwarves throw at him with ease
>And if not - it's not a big loss to the Family
>YFW a motherfucking Lich arrives on top of your son
>Little twat of a son announces it as an Overlord of some shit or the other
>But you can barely hear it over the luxurious brilliance emanating from the robe Lich wears
>Magnanimously offer Lich to fuck off with his un-life if he leaves the robe to you
>Told to fuck off in a regal manner
>Become enraged and rush the fucker
>Skellie puts up an arm and chants something about a heart - is the last thing you see before darkness fall on your mind
>Feel disgusting hand reaching to you in comfortable Nothingness
>It smells like great treasures so you accept it
>Wake up in a dark, damp basement lit by torches
>Chained down to the floor with bigass steel rings and chains
>A demon in tuxedo holds a 30cm glowing rod above you
>Your living hell as conscious skin graft donor began
>Sometimes they take a break and show you how a gargantuan dragons each a size of the castle fuck your former harem
>After what seems like an eternity you are released to roam the sky again
>Your broken self still finds the former pride inside to feel at least a little bit hopeful about flying once more
>Spend days as a fucking pack mule, darting between weird-ass SKAOG settlements and bases
>Few Vampire Brides mind to you and cargo at all times, together strong enough to fuck you up in no time
>Sometimes a smaller, scarier vampire girl of small stature joins the flight
>For a horrible orgies performed right at your back
>All Hail Ainz-sama!
>SKAOG banzai!
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I'm seeing a lot of Overlord threads these days. Does that mean new volume soon?
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>>160559332
What if flying by dragon becomes a normal method of transportation in the multicultural kingdom of AOG and Shalltear is tasked with running security checks?
>All of the undead please form a line on the right our captain wants to inspect you personally
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>>160559639
it was supposed to be released in august i think? but theres been no word from maruyama so who knows
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>>160559639
That means August is now, we have zero info on next vol and are growing ever desperate for new content.
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>>160559639
We have a "new content" but we're not talking about it here.
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>>160559713
Eh, wild undead is mostly filthy though.
All the nice ones we've seen so fare are Nazarick VBs.

I wonder if Ainz will ever discover a secret Vampire society in NW?
Natural Vampires as well as natural Werewolves should have considerable lifespans to grow strong.

Fluder, EE, ZZ, PDL and DDDL are strongest NW entities in existence described so far and all of them lived long lives.

Kaire also was able to use WCI dress, which probably works on XP, being and old hag she must have some experience to spare from her Job Levels she accumulated during her long life.
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>>160559639
We are going to enter the wait and delay arcs of the Volume 12 soon.
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>The screenings are showing an announcement video to reveal the new season.
Do we have the proof of that?
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>>160559963
>Ainz defeats Zuranon
>Ainz: now tell me why do you want to destroy the world?
>Zuranon Leader: destroy the world!? we just want to find a way to turn into cute loli vampires.
>Ainz: w-well swear fealty to me and your wishes will be granted. *hands them over to Shalltear*
How long would they last under Shalltears "care"?
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>>160560533
I don't think Shalltear likes dirty old men.
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>>160560707
What if they have SPIRAL dicks? I mean after they become vampire girls.
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>>160559332
Nah. Ainz is going experiment on him. A badass undead dragon.
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>>160558288
I rather she is in charge of a air ship fleet armed with dragon riders and magic canons. Now that is a real transportation. Those dragons better have some saddles otherwise is pretty damn uncomfortable. How is not like they can transport a lot of goods on their back.
>Shizu factory had to have some tech that can build something like this.
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>>160554852
Would Miyoshi-kun ever be able to turn into this?
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>>160561192
>A badass undead dragon.
His semen is valuable for impregnating lizardmen widows.
Such crossbreed is revered as sacred among lizards since ancient times.

All Ainz need to do for badass undead dragon is find where CDL is sleeping.
Judging by the BS operation area in Vol3 - they legit suspected CDL woke up and fucked up Nigun, so it should be somewhere near the Nazarick.

Ainz have a skill to control feral undead, so he should be able to bring CDL under control at least when wielding SKAOG staff.
Or alternatively kill it and raise it as Dragon Zombie.
Zombies are said to vary in strength depending on material spell used on.
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>>160561652
Would you like to bath in acid?
We're unclear on lvl cap in NW.
Evil Tree seemed to be able to level up somehow despite being regular mob in Yggdrasil.
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>>160560533
Loli vampires?
If they would not be inferior to VBs in terms of regenerative powers - possibly indefinitely.
I mean if Ainz guarantees them life and safety - Shalltear won't be able to kill them for good and going close enough to death at the hands of this beautiful little monster soon start to be an enjoyable experience.
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Demi ask Ainz for the sky after the world is conquer. What the hell is he going do with it? Put on ban on flying creatures, mages and collect flying tax?

Mare and Mare is probably gonna ask for all the forest there is.
Shalltear= virgins females (100% garantee she want that)
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>>160561652
Miyoshi-kun is absorbing all of Ainz pent up sexual energy, he will become the ultimate waifu (male).
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>>160561890
>Evil Tree
Maybe EvilTree is the descendant of an Yggdrasil mob and therefore doesn't have a level cap?
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>>160562223
>Ygg tree mob fucking wild tree
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>>160539364
whe
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>>160557920
If Yuri met Evileye all she'd have to do is say she and the others swapped sides cause he treated them like shit since they couldn't win. Now Evileye can't touch them and they can't openly touch her.
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>>160542212
What hints? I didn't see anything that implied that when I read them.
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>>160563068
Nani?
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manga renner and climb.

I think the sebas chapters will play out better in the manga/anime than they did in the LN
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>>160564051
why does climb look much more manly here?
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>>160548253
>demi would be sad at papa bones besting him again.

I'm pretty sure he'd have multiple orgasms like he did with the dwarf kingdom.

>>160564108
I think so-bin makes him look more like a child to match his mental state. But he is a soldier so he should be pretty built.
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>>160555558
Redcap is overkill. Even if Climb will level up to adamantine.
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>>160564191
>But he is a soldier so he should be pretty built.
He's also 15. Strong 15 year olds are generally lanky and wiry.
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>>160564297
yeah I do admit manga climb looks like he's in his lower 20s
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>>160564297
Maybe in your shoujo manga
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How do you imagine the 8th floor? I see it as desert with cherry blossoms oasis and a few building most part of which are underground or covered in sand.
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>>160564538
More like in reality. Most kids around 15 are not build quite like that, even the most athletic ones, unless it's not a natty build
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>>160564673
Maybe in your shoujo manga.
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>>160564697
Maybe in you gay fantasies. I'm a teacher. I literally teach 15 year olds. 99% of them aren't build like that, and people are generally suspicious of the ones that are, to the point where the PE instructor calls their parents and questions them.
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>>160564816
Sure thing Paco, nice blog by the way
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VOLUME 12 WHEN
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>>160564867
>Paco
What. Generally 14-15 year olds are all knees and elbows. Since lations are usually not lanky but have a stocky build and seem to go through puberty earlier, I don't even know what the fuck are you trying to imply here.
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>>160565042
>the little sissy boys I suck off after knitting class are twigs so surely this 15 year old soldier has to be
I'm implying you're a mexican, a nigger, a faggot, a retarded namefag and a fujo. Kill yourself
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>>160565245
>mexican
nope
>nigger
nah
>faggot
I post daily on a retarded imageboard so I guess you got me there.
>a fujo
you don't even know what that is
>a retarded namefag
Fuck me. I was about to create a thread earlier right before someone else made it and for some reason I put overlord in the name box and forgot to delete it. Now, a good 10 hours later, I finally realize it.
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>>160564641
A huge floor with nothing in it except the npcs.
The raid bosses and minmaxed npcs are just sitting there waiting, maybe they'll actually go complain to ainz that they're bored now that they have consciousness.
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>>160565590
No one gives a fuck Pedro
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>>160565628
Well, you obviously do. You seem incredibly upset by the whole conversation too, otherwise you'd stop replying. Anyway, thanks for pointing out the name thing,
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>>160564816
Em no, there are 5'9" 180lbs 15y/o nowadays, I see them a lot near local sport school.
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>>160565619
Why doesn't Ainz allow anyone in then?
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>>160567225
Supposedly some mobs there will attack everyone in sight indiscriminately.
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>>160564816
Do your students know you're such a horny faggot, lusting after their lanky bodies?
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>>160564051
is that my man gaius from dungeon meshi, damn nigga what you doin here
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Is august!! Where the F is v12?
I knew shouldn't have trusted that author interview crap.
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>>160571185
Go away, ESL-kun.
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>>160571185
Never trust those shady underground cave like interviews. I want videos.
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So we all agree this was the best scene in the series so far, right?
The anime did it okay, though it was better in the novel. But still easily above everything else when it comes to overlord.
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>>160571403
>But still easily above everything else when it comes to overlord
You mean aside from the scene where he slaightered 250.000 people with demon goats and laugh about it while the entire imperial army behind him literally crapped their pants? Or where Ainz yelled at some worker/adventurers because one of them tried to trick him by mentioning his friends so he decided to torture them forever?

Chapter 7 is the turning point in the series where Ainz goes on a one-way trip to the abyss and never looks back, and the reader realizes the MC is actually an evil monster and that he is observing the rise of a legitimately evil empire that will enslave humanity and probably no one will stop them, but you don't care because the female guardians and the maids are cute. It's the one thing that makes the series somewhat unique.
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>>160571403
Albedo departing in volume 10 was also great.
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>>160571797
>You mean aside
No, those scenes are cool and all, but the Mausoleum scene and the argument with Demiurge immediately after were brilliant pieces of character acting that are way more valuable than mindless powerlevel boasting.
Also I still believe that the whole invading workers mess was terrible.

>>160571802
I haven't read 10 in ages, departing where? Was that when she was undercover in the city?
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>>160563050
That's simple enough. It was LGBT dragon lord.
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>>160571911
>way more valuable than mindless powerlevel boasting
The powerlevel and boasting by themselves are meaningless. What's interesting about that scene and the workers chapter is that they remind you that Ainz really goes full nazi when it comes to furthering his Nazarick agenda, and worse than that he really sees humans as less than ants, which contrasts drastically with the lighter tone the series usually has.

Other than that, I guess my favorite scene is his confrontation with Sebas. Took me a bit to realize that it probably wasn't him the first time around, but PA.
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>>160554581
We need to go deeper.
> AOG was full of competent government agents, terrorists, anarchists, and information security specialists
> It was supposed to be the government social experiment
> At the moment of transfer AOG security mechanisms hijack and distort the initial code via buffer overflow glitch
> The whole transfer process is now fucked
> Firewalls and main self-learning defence systems(aka Dragon Lords) being damaged in the process, losing so-called "Wild magic"
> Now NW is secretly Tron and AOG is a SKYNET trying to control all electronic systems in the world
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>>160564816
>99% of them aren't build like that
99% aren't training basically 24/7
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>>160572638
That wasn't the discussion though. The LN suggested that he looked like a kid, and with a lean physique. Also, just training won't make you bigger, diet is more important.
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>>160572853
Well, he has managed to live for a considerable amount of time while being an orphan, so it's safe to assume that he is a naturally tough kid.
And his meal is probably pretty decent, being palace guard and all.
And it's not the Earth. These humans can be a tad bit different. For example, Ainz took note that most of the inhabitants look beautiful, which is unlikely given the setting.
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>>160571403
For me it was honestly one of the worst moments in Overlord.
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>>160573034
>There exists an anon for whom up is down and down is up
The world is an amazing place.
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>>160543069
S2 was announced back in march.
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>>160573430
Can't wait for 6/13 episodes about LIzards.
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>>160573468
It'll be 4 out of 13, anon. That's how they did it for season 1, four episodes per volume.
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>>160573468
I didnt dislike the lizard arc so much.
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>>160573576
That's still too much, I hope it takes no more than 3. 2 would be ideal.
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Where I should read the novels?

I want to buy it but I wanna know where soo far the LN is
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>>160573627
Now you're just being unrealistic.
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>>160573689
Google is your friend, ESL-kun.
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>>160573701
2 might be cutting it close but 3 Is more than enough.
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>>160573822
4 Lizards 3 book 5 and 5 book 6?
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>>160572853
>That wasn't the discussion though.
It was though
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They wouldn't pass on the chance to animate Zesshi, right? Right?

I can live without the Intermission about the Kingdom (Volume 3) and maybe the one about Empire (Volume 6) but the rest of these are golden.
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>>160573900
Overlord S1 was 13 episodes long.
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>>160574059
They passed on the chance to animate Nigredo, so you never know.
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>>160573900
So 4,5,5 or 5,3,5 or 4,3,6?
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>>160574464
>4,5,5
Nice math, brainlet.
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>>160574569
>brainlet
You wouldn't make fun of a cute loli vampire, would you?
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>vol 1-10 a loyal cutie that loves animals and is easy going
>vol 11 - suddenly a sadistic bloodthirsty bitch that doesn't even take ainz's order seriously

What the fuck happened? at least I still have mare.
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>>160576216
What are you on about?
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>>160576216
She loves hunting and skinning them too. And dominating.
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>>160576216
Aura, like nearly all of Nazarick's NPCs, has never given a shit about non-Nazarickians. She's not sadistic or bloodthirsty, but she doesn't mind killing. Everyone who isn't a part of Nazarick is worthless to her.
>>160576406
Aura immediately began to genocide the Quagoa alongside Shalltear, even though Ainz wanted them to at least properly try diplomacy first.
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>>160576578
They already asked them to bend the knee.
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>>160576933
They gave the leader only one second to respond, and then ignored him when he said they surrender. That is not diplomacy.
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>>160576933
And they accepted, but Shalltear and Aura were like "lol no".
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>>160576933
Did you miss the part where he agreed to their terms, but they went full Hitler on his people anyway?
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>>160577121
It's been 11 Volumes, anon. Do you still think anyone other than Ainz in AOG knows how to play diplomatically?
They were given an order, make them bend the knee or reduce their numbers. The leader's hesitation was his own downfall, hence the "Why didn't you tell me sooner?". Shalltear and Aura were not at fault, their stance on any life outside of AOG was made very clear already. A lower lifeform who didn't respond immediately to the overlord request, instead asking more question to seek a better term of agreement was deemed expendable.


“Rule?”


“Correct. Our Lord has come to subjugate you. Bend the knee and bow before him.”


Then, what should I do? Riyuro thought fast.


He did not mind bowing and welcoming a new ruler. All they needed to do was grow strong beneath that ruler and then overthrow them.


The problem was that they could not submit to the opposition without knowing their power. They might have made that Dragon kneel before them, but that Dragon was not the Dragon Lord. For all he knew, after bending the knee, they might be made to fight the Dragon Lord.


“...There should be two more of you. What happened to them?”


“You do not need to know. You are only allowed to say if you accept our rule or not.”


They were not revealing anything to him. That would mean that investigating the enemy’s intentions ─ whether or not they truly intended to fight in earnest ─ was very important.


“...You say you want to rule us. However, it is very difficult for us to accept your proposal without knowing your strength. Does that make sense to you?”
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>>160577239
He disrespected the Supreme Ruler of Nazrick by taking too long to think about it.
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>>160577303
>>160577328
Shalltear and Aura disrespected Ainz by botching his orders.
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>>160577386
They didn't though, they gave them a chance to surrender.
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>>160577303
>>160577328
>I told them I was willing to bend the knee, but why couldn’t they make even a little concession? If they aren’t even willing to do that… does that really mean they view our lives as worthless…?
He already said they were willing to accept their rule. Shalltear and Aura are just retards.
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>>160577420
And he did surrender.
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>>160577469
>>160577447

According to >>160577303, he didn't.
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>>160577447
He said it in a roundabout way >>160577303
I agree with them being retards though.
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>>160577497
According to this >>160577447, he did.
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>>160577386
They asked him 3 times. The final time they even told him that they will reduce their numbers to 10,000. Riyuro was having a internal dialogue and that took too long.
>>160577447
>>160577527
He never said so directly, if you look at the dialogues. Perhaps this happened after they told him to go back, it was already too late.
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Quagoa sympathizers need to leave. They are literally Squealers.
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>>160577568
>He never said so directly
Yes, Shalltear and Aura are retards who don't understand basic implications. And sending him off while in the middle of discussing things without giving him any opportunity to clarify that they are surrendering is not diplomacy. Ainz would be disappointed at this poor display. They botched his orders.
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>>160577658
(You)
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>>160577706
His own fault for thinking implications are enough when swearing undying loyalty to Ainz Own Goal.
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I heard this show is fucking garbage, is this true?
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>>160577751
>it's his fault for assuming they weren't retards
Nah, I'm pretty sure the retards are at fault. Or Ainz is, since he was the one who sent retards out to negotiate in the first place.
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>>160577165
Because the quagoa king attached conditions to his people's surrender. it was a very simple condition of "we need to see your strength so our people can feel fine about surrendering", but it was not interpreted like that by Aura and Shalltear who were looking for absolute, unconditional surrender. In their eyes, NWers have no right to ask for anything, and should do as Ainz commands without a second thought or be put down
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>>160577827
You're pretty wrong. The Quagoa king offended the diplomats, and doomed himself and his people.
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It's like people actually thinks Ainz cares if the number of surviving Quagoas mattered.
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>>160577784
Yeah
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>>160577865
No, the retards are hyper sensitive tumblr tier Nazis that have no concept of diplomacy and can't follow simple orders. Their actions are completely unreasonable and would disappoint Ainz if he knew.
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>>160577898
>implying it's okay to botch simple orders given to you by the Supreme Being
Fuck off, humie.
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>>160577921
>"Woooow, how could I have known this impossibly powerful opponent wasn't fucking around when it demanded my unconditional surrender"
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>>160577921
Thats why i was rather disappointed in Aura pushing Shalltear towards massacre.

They were with Ainz when he skillfully talked with the dwarfs they could have learned alot about their lord and how he handles things.

Rather then trying to imitate him they outright ignore it.
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>>160578011
He didn't know they were "impossibly powerful" at the time. All they'd done by then was kill a few Quagoa.
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More importantly, can NPCs gain XP? They should've gained something after culling them.
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>>160578194
Nope, NPC levels are connected to the guild's level pool. Their levels are a constant value.
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>>160578194
Depending on the system, perhaps the level range is too big resulting in 0 exp gain.
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>>160578239
Would it increase now they have a much bigger area of influence? It'll be pretty cool if they have enough spare levels to eventually generate a new NPC.
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>>160578152
Then misjudging his position was his mistake.
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>>160574059
That priestess looks so pure and noble. I can't wait for her to get Nazarick'd.
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>>160578271
No, it was the retards’ mistake for not accepting his surrender, like they were told to do. They disobeyed Ainz.
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>>160578270
Their area of influence is not a part of the tomb, so no.
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>In tokyo last week
>go to Akihabara
>No Overlord stuff at all

;_;

loved Japan though, its as good as I remember. got to bring the family along this time too, which was nice.
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>>160576216
I had explained it in the last thread.
Nothing contradictory about that. You just used to an archetypical portrayal of evil people as gloomy and negative.
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>>160578351
They gave him 3 chances to surrender unconditionally, and he fucked them all up. The only retard is the Quag king. Ainz only told them to try diplomacy, not get them to join.
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>>160538115
whats up with that unfinished chart
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>>160578511
They gave him only a few seconds to make a decision, that is not diplomacy. In fact, he surrendered, but they weren’t willing to accept that. Shalltear and Aura fucked up. They disobeyed Ainz’s orders. Their retardation is an embarrassment to Nazarick.
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Why are you people even discussing Climb's physique?
Yes, manga style is tad different than LN arts, so what?
So-bin managed to fuck up twins eyes several times and anime Ainz is a giant compared to LN.
If you take a starving kid in early childhood from the street and put it into environment with enough nutrition and tough training regime - fucker can end up 5'11" 180lbs after puberty cuz he wasn't starving during growth spurs.

Childlike or not - the fucker diligently upped his level enough to be considered King of Scrubs among other Royal Army soldiers.
After the 9 vol culling it's even said specifically that murdering Renner would be a problem cuz Blue Rose and cuz Climb is now in the middle of upper tier of local humies.
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>>160577303
>Do you still think anyone other than Ainz in AOG knows how to play diplomatically?
Sebas, Demi, Solution, and Albedo. Cocytus is learning.
Yuri, Nigredo, Mare, CZ, and Pestonya are wildcards.
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>>160578597
>In fact, he surrendered, but they weren’t willing to accept that.
After he blew his repeated chances and soured the mood of the people who held his life in their hands. Face it, the cave rat was a fool and brought doom on his people.
You don't need a lot of time to decide between "surrender unconditionally or die".
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>>160578324
Next thing you'll say is that you want something bad happen to Hat-chan, you monster.

>>160578511
He is not a retard though, he united all Quagoa tribes under his rule and had plans of developing their society even further. He didn't rule a Kingdom in crisis that keeps a standing army of 100 dudes. You do know that unlike you, NWers weren't spoonfed Nazarick power levels, right?
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>>160578650
11 is a cutie.
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>>160578647
Shalltear and Aura immediately began making unreasonable demands without giving him any time to think, were either too retarded to understand that he surrendered or ignored it altogether, thereby disobeying a simple direct order from Ainz, and are therefore filthy, worthless traitors that should be killed on sight.
>You don't need a lot of time to decide between "surrender unconditionally or die".
He had no reason to believe that they could carry out their threats, since they weren’t even willing to demonstrate their strength, like he asked.
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>>160578650
didnt hat chan get popped by nazarick anti-scrying measures or was that another of them
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>>160578597
>They gave him only a few seconds to make a decision, that is not diplomacy
Am I missing something here? That's as Ainz Ooal Gown as diplomacy gets
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>>160578729
>Shalltear and Aura immediately began making unreasonable demands
Surrender and serve, or be eliminated.
Extremely simple terms, and they repeatedly told him there was no room for negotiation.

>He had no reason to believe that they could carry out their threats
"Wooooow, how could I have known that if I called their bluff and they weren't bluffing I'd be fucked"
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>>160578600
Manga Climb is pretty close to Novel Climb, when looking at Novel 10 illustration.

My dislike of manga lies more with how rushed it is, even though I know the reasons for the rush. Like when Gazef puts his hand on Brain's arm and comments that at least the guy was training. I am not sure if manga-onlies would know what he meant by that. Or when the anime portrays Gazef better than manga where he gets one-page offscreened by the Sunlight Scripture guys. Also he looks pretty ugly.
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>>160571937
>LGBT dragon fucking a tree
I see that he is feared among his kin for a reason.
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>>160578775
That was one of the maidens with artifacts that shatter your mind and turn you into a magic vegetable weapon/tool.
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>>160572371
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>>160578800
>I am not sure if manga-onlies would know what he meant by that.
I read the novel and I barely know what he meant, because the scans were in broken english with terrible typesetting.
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>>160573430
>S2 was announced back in march.
see >>160560080
What are your proofs?
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>>160578777
That's not the kind of "diplomacy" Ainz intended.
>>160578792
>Extremely simple terms
And he accepted. But they disobeyed Ainz and began killing his people anyway.
>they repeatedly told him there was no room for negotiation
That's not diplomacy.
>"Wooooow, how could I have known that if I called their bluff and they weren't bluffing I'd be fucked"
Shalltear and Aura weren't willing to accept a surrender. They are treacherous retards.
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>>160573689
Try visiting previous thread.
There was CATCLEM FANFIC.
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>>160574290
>passed
>all those 3d babies models
Budget nigga.
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>>160578838
Well, yeah. I don't remember it clearly myself but I think it was about him feelling up Brain's hard muscles.
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>>160578856
Nigga that's the kind of diplomacy he carries out
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>>160578856
>And he accepted.
Did not, he kept trying to bargain until the diplomats lost their patience.
>That's not diplomacy.
They weren't dead yet, that's diplomacy.
>Shalltear and Aura weren't willing to accept a surrender.
They gave him 3 chances to, and he blew them. That's more than the Quags deserved really.
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>>160574869
>make fun of a cute loli vampire
No need for that, that incompetent pile of fuck up got it handled perfectly well by herself.
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>>160578856
>That's not the kind of "diplomacy" Ainz intended.
Diplomacy for Ainz and his Domain means Ultimatums half the time.
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>>160578708
She is.
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>>160578891
>>160578928
No, Ainz actually talks to people. He listens to what they have to say. He makes compromises. He is reasonable, most of the time. Like his negotiations with the Dwarfs. That is diplomacy.
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>>160576216
Do you think people who perform atrocities for their agenda can't love animals and be good to their people and family?
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>>160576578
>Ainz wanted them to at least properly try diplomacy first.
Yes, and yes Aura stretched the borders of the order a bit and executed it by the word.
>Do you want to surrender?
>No?
>Prepare to be exterminated.

But the decision was spot on: Quagoa are dumb and rebellions, shit minions and don't deserve to enter SKAOG in full numbers.
Remember that Aura is quite cunning and can read psyche of beasts in command fights well.
I bet she felt general funny ideas Quagoa are having about their to be Overlord and decided to wipe them out.
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>>160578898
>Did not, he kept trying to bargain until the diplomats lost their patience.
He didn’t bargain for anything. He surrendered, he just wanted to see their strength. The retards couldn’t accept a simple surrender and went full Hitler on him.
>They weren't dead yet, that's diplomacy.
No, that’s not diplomacy. Ainz would be disappointed. Shalltear and Aura fucked up.
>They gave him 3 chances
They gave him a few seconds. That is not diplomacy. They even ignored his surrender.
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>>160572371
>Ainz is just a guy roleplaying a skeleton
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>>160577303
This.
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>>160578978
They surrendered though, they didn’t say no. Shalltear and Aura disobeyed Ainz by ignoring their surrender.
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>>160578852
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-10/overlord-tv-anime-gets-2nd-season/.113293
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>>160578935
>No, Ainz actually talks to people
When he's in the mood. Other times he just sends people on dragons to fuck up the royal guards to threaten his enemies and acts like he's being amicable.

>He didn’t bargain for anything. He surrendered,
He tried to bargain before surrendering, several times despite the warnings Aura and Shalltear gave him. Sorry, the only retard here is the guy who didn't understand what unconditional surrender meant.
>No, that’s not diplomacy. Ainz would be disappointed.
Ultimatums ARE diplomacy, and Ainz has given many.
>They gave him a few seconds.
He blew his chances in a few seconds, that's more on him than them.
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Half of >>160579050 meant for >>160578990
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>>160577706
He tried attaching conditions to surrender.
Aura and Shalltear were having none of that disrespectful shit.
>>160577827
Shalltear might be retard but Aura is not.
Remember that she's a commander type and master of team fights, she can read beasts intentions well.
Plus quagoa were being hesitant while Ainz order "surrender or cull to 10k" can easily be interpreted as "those mole fucks don't matter, tell them to surrender and fuck them up if they don't do it right away, don't waste your time".
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>>160577921
They followed the orders to the word.
Order was "ask Quagoa to surrender else reduce them to 10k".
This means 10k is fine too.
Ainz issued quite different orders regarding Carne and Dwarves, obviously valuing them more.
Quagoa were nothing to him so he allowed his NPC some leniency in decision making.
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>>160579050
>He tried to bargain before surrendering
Yes, and he did surrender. And Shalltear and Aura ignored that, like the massive retards that they are. They disobyed Ainz.
>Ultimatums ARE diplomacy
You know what isn't diplomacy? Ignoring when the other side accepts your terms.
>He blew his chances in a few seconds, that's more on him than them.
No, it's on them for being too retarded to follow simple orders.
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>>160578122
>Rather then trying to imitate him they outright ignore it.
Why would they do that if orders about dwarves implied alliance while orders about Quagoa implied either vassalage or outright slavery?
Quagoa were being uppity during negotiations so slavery it is.
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>>160579068
>Aura and Shalltear were having none of that disrespectful shit.
Yes, they ignored Ainz's orders. They are filthy traitors.
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>>160579098
>Yes, and he did surrender.
No, he tried to attach terms before surrendering, then tried it again when Aura told him that was not acceptable. Un-con-ditional.
>You know what isn't diplomacy? Ignoring when the other side accepts your terms.
You don't get to try to accept the terms after you refused the ultimatum and are about to get fucked in the ass. That's not what ultimatums mean.
>No, it's on them for being too retarded to follow simple orders.
They followed his orders with laserlike precision, and gave the cave rats more chances than they deserved.
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>>160578351
MALE VALKYRIES
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>>160578579
I posted it so that someone could finish it.
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>>160579132
>Ask them to surrender
>They don't
>Kill most of them off like he ordered
Seems like they did great.
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>>160578884
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>>160578729
>emissaries and army generals of glorious SKAOG
>unreasonable demands
Such a thing does not exist.
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>>160579157
it was finished over a year ago though, only a couple of threads after it was started
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>>160579135
>Aura told him that was not acceptable
Yes, she disobeyed Ainz. She was supposed to accept their surrender, she had no right to reject them. She is a traitor.
>You don't get to try to accept the terms after you refused the ultimatum
He didn’t refuse the ultimatum, he surrendered.
>They followed his orders with laserlike precision, and gave the cave rats more chances than they deserved.
They ignored and botched Ainz’s orders, and gave the Quagoa virtually no chance at all with their shitty diplomacy skills.
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>>160579160
>They don't
But they did surrender. That’s the problem. They failed.
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>>160579218
>Yes, she disobeyed Ainz. She was supposed to accept their surrender
He didn't surrender, so she killed off most of them like he ordered.
>He didn’t refuse the ultimatum
He tried to negotiate terms for the surrender, which is literally what rejecting an ultimatum means.
>They ignored and botched Ainz’s orders
No anon, they followed them to a T.

>>160579236
They TRIED to surrender, after negotiations had broken down. That's not surrendering, that's pleading for mercy after you fucked up.
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>>160579272
>He didn't surrender, so she killed off most of them like he ordered.
He did surrender, and she committed treason by arbitrarily deciding to kill them anyway.
>He tried to negotiate terms for the surrender, which is literally what rejecting an ultimatum means.
No, he did not reject anything, he gave into their demands.
>No anon, they followed them to a T.
They didn’t accept their surrender like Ainz ordered them to. They disobeyed him.
>They TRIED to surrender, after negotiations had broken down.
No, Shalltear and Aura ended negotiations even though they had already surrendered.
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>>160579352
>He did surrender
Repeating this over and over doesn't make it true. You don't GET to surrender after they switched from diplomacy to "killing your people".
>No, he did not reject anything
He tried to make demands before and ultimatum. Dumb rat should look up what Ultimatum means.
>They didn’t accept their surrender like Ainz ordered them to
Ainz ordered them to demand their surrender or kill most of them off. They didn't surrender, so they moved to killing them off, obeying his orders with the utmost care.
>No, Shalltear and Aura ended negotiations even though they had already surrendered.
They didn't surrender, though. They kept trying to negotiate terms for their surrender, which is what you do BEFORE you surrender. You don't get to surrender when the ultimatum is in effect, that's what the ultimatum was for.
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>>160578775
>>160578824
>Be Slane Theocracy
>Think they're US or something
>Decide to stop drug trade corrupting the pet Empire you're nurturing
>Decide to fuck up national deterrent level of a man
>Who protects the country which produces drug that fucks up your pet Empire
>Instead of helping JUST closing lid on distribution channels in within his own borders
>Send noobs dressed in Empire garb to slay villagers
>Followed closely by elites mostly specialized in goblin farmers extermination
>Even give them the Ultra Rare Angel Summon Gem just in case Gazef is stronger than goblin farmers
>whatcangowrong.jpg
>Your elites are MIA
>The Miko who monitored them is pulverized evenly across her room
>Appoint another "volunteer" Miko
>One of your best enforces goes rogue, steals Crown of Wisdom from new Miko, effectively turning her useless too
>And leaving you without large scale rituals that are equivalent of nukes in NW
>FML
>Suspect CDL awakening instead of another Player drop of which you have detailed reports for the last fucking 600 years
>Sent rest of the strongest enforcers to investigate and subdue CDL if it's up
>Your enforcers return half fucked up
>The only hag who could use the WCI dress is dead
>You've made an enemy of an entity capable of resisting WCI while shredding third of your best team to bits
>And of another entity who managed to kill the previous one too
>Decide to polish a room together with your buddies to escape from harsh reality
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>>160579047
>The screenings are showing an announcement video to reveal the new season.
Do you have that announcement video?
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>>160578935
>Ainz actually talks to people.
Blind underground niggers aren't people.
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>>160579123
They witnessed Ainz way of doing things.
The molemen wanted a prove of their strengh because strenght is their highest currency.

They could have just brought out the frost dragons lord corpse to show. Shalltear could have easly asked Ainz to retrieve the corpse from Nazerick with a Gate.
With that there would have been no doubt anymore for the molemen about the strenght.

Thats why i am a bit dissapointed, while Shalltear showed that she can learn, Aura seem to have no interest in it. It was the second time Aura accompanyed Ainz on a subjugation journey.
First time was with the giants and even their he only acted violent the moment negotiations broke down.
But spared the Nage...

She witnessed how he handeled the dwarf in the mines and witnessed the negotiations with the dwarf council. She picked nothing up from it.

While Demiruge/Albedo/Cocytus all showed signs of trying to better themself learn from Ainz or trying to act in Ainz best interest.

Shalltear tried to better herself after she failed Ainz.
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>>160579023
>>160579132
>>160579236
>>160579352
Male Valkyries?
Demiurge is commander class NPC?
EE spray does % HP damage?
Do I need to include your banter into my bait list?
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>>160579413
>You don't GET to surrender
Ainz ordered them to accept surrender, which they failed to do. And besides, they surrendered before the killing even began.
>He tried to make demands before and ultimatum. Dumb rat should look up what Ultimatum means.
Retarded midgets should look up what diplomacy means.
>Ainz ordered them to demand their surrender or kill most of them off. They didn't surrender
But they did surrender. How are you not getting this by now?
>They didn't surrender, though.
They did, Shalltear and Aura weren’t willing to accept their surrender. That is their failure.
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>>160579493
>blah blah blah
Quagoa did not matter to Ainz.
Did you miss the point how ore-eating race isn't exactly good for trade treaties Ainz planned with dwarves?
He came under Arzelisa mountains with a goal to strike deals with Dwarves and acqiore runesmith tech and he succeeded.
Quagoa and Frost Dragons were just an obstacle to be removed from his path and while Dragons are a welcome addition - Quagoa are not particularly interesting to Ainz.
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>>160579451
Neither are retarded vamps, elves, and skellies.
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>>160579559
True, but they're Ainz's non-humans.
While Quagoa are trash that were supposed to be eliminated completely at the dwarves request.
They should be thankful at least 10k survived.
That's 10k more than Ainz actually needs.
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>>160579523
>Ainz ordered them to accept surrender
No, he ordered them to kill them off if they didn't surrender. They didn't surrender, so they killed them off. I'm not gonna bother with the rest of your post if you can't get this simple fact through your tiny cave rat skull.
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>>160579593
Shalltear and Aura are filthy, worthless traitors that should be killed on sight.
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>>160579599
>he ordered them to kill them off if they didn't surrender
But they did surrender, and they chose to ignore that. They chose to ignore Ainz's orders.
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>>160578729
>He had no reason to believe that they could carry out their threats, since they weren’t even willing to demonstrate their strength, like he asked.

Thats pretty interesting you say that actually. I was in Hiroshima a few days ago with a few colleagues and we had bit of a debate with a couple of JSDF officers about the bombing. One of the points raised was that the US didn't give a warning of the power and scale of the A-Bombs, pointing out that given the intent was as a coercive force, the US did not correctly act according to coercive and signaling theory.

TBF, I doubt that Shalltear and Aura (or rather Maru) have any knowledge of coercive theory. But the principle here is that of a countervalue strike. Countervalue is a term mostly used in nuclear strategy that is opposed to counterforce. Counterforce is an attack on the military or martial powers, e.g. air base, army etc. Countervalue on the other hand is a strike on more (generally urban) civilian targets. With relation to coercive theory (and Shalltears and Aura's mission) the actual aim is to use the threat of force to compel your enemy to your will without actually having to use force. You do this by signalling to them your intention AND capability. You need to clearly communicate both if you want your enemy to comprehend and respond to the threat.

Shalltear and Aura communicated (or signalled) their intention, but not their capability.

with regards to the JSDF fellow,
the contextual situation of the bombing makes things murkier, as well as other issues that would take up to much time to go into.
But Shalltear and Aura both had the ability to display their ability, and didn't. They attempted to use coercive force but did not correctly follow the theory, and were forced to resort to force.
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I get it.
It's just some anon who is against comfy, slow-paced Overlord thread while there is no new content.
So he floods them with samefagging retarded topics like
>Male Valkyries
>Demiurge Commander
>EE %HP Spray
>[Low Tier Damage Nullification]
and so on.

That happens as long as I remember Overlord threads.
That anon is probably a pathetic, whiny peace of shit who can't hold the wait like a man and can't take being reminded about Overlord by 2 threads a week.

That's why he turns them to shit.
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>>160579641
>But they did surrender
After the surrender period was over. Again, you don't get to surrender when the ultimatum is off the table.
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>>160579669
No, they were not ordered to create a 10 second “surrender period”, they were ordered to not kill them if they surrendered, which they did. They committed treason by going against Ainz’s orders.
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>>160579714
>they were ordered to not kill them if they surrendered, which they did
Which they didn't in the time they were given. And since Ainz' orders stipulated that they had to kill them if they didn't surrender, it would be disloyal to stop killing them. The circumstances of the surrender were left up to Aura and Shalltear's discretion, and they were more patient than they needed to be, since they gave the Quags multiple chances to surrender.
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>>160579422
First off, they sent the Sunlight Scripture because of the prophecy about some powerful dragon appearing, which they thought might have been the Calamity Dragon Lord, so the Black Scripture was on the task and its members were too busy to be sent after Gazef. And the Windflower Scripture was busy trying to catch Clementing.

Secondly, Clementine went rogue undetermined time ago and she stole the crown of a different Miko Princess. Even Khajit knew about her and how strong she was compared to the top guys in his organisation, and that guy was holed up in the E-Rantel cemetery for quite some time.

Some of the knights were allowed to run away so they reported both Ainz and his Desu Naito.

We don't know if Kaire is the only one who could use the dress, most likely not, seeing how they discussed using it on Ainz or someone but voted against it.

Only 2 BS members died out of 12 sent, and they could resurrect them.

Polishing the room is a ritual.

They did say that they could recover from their losses in 10 years, so right now, they are the human nation that is the least affected by Ainz's arrival, if we exclude the ones with which Ainz didn't interact yet. At least for now.
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>>160579742
>Which they didn't in the time they were given.
But they did, and they were ignored.
>And since Ainz' orders stipulated that they had to kill them if they didn't surrender, it would be disloyal to stop killing them.
It was disloyal to ignore Ainz’s orders and start killing them after they had already surrendered.
>The circumstances of the surrender were left up to Aura and Shalltear's discretion, and they were more patient than they needed to be, since they gave the Quags multiple chances to surrender.
They were both extremely impatient and unreasonable. They gave the Quagoa virtually no chance with their shitty diplomacy skills. They botched Ainz’s orders so badly, to the point of treason.
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>Half the reason for the Journey to Dwarven Kingdom
>Is to comfort Shalltear out of her failure depression
>And see if she can actually contain her [Blood Frenzy]
>Aura is put in charge of Shalltear for that mission to monitor, command and advise
>Shalltear holds great during small skirmishes and captures forward troops for interrogation without any issues
>But what about big fight?
>BIG FIGHT WITH RIVERS OF BLOOD AND GUTS
>Aura: "Oh, these are those guys who Ainz sama said we can cull down to 10k if they don't surrender!"
>Aura: "What a great opportunity to test Shalltear, now I only need to guide that numbskull into massacre without actually breaking Ainz's order"
>Aura: "After all Ainz-sama emphasized how teaching Shalltear responsibility and restraint"
>Aura: "You, Quagoa! Bend the knee before our master! Do you surrender: yes or no!?"
>Quagoa: "We can't just be..."
>Aura: "Ok, Shalltear fuck em up, but keep yourself contained"
/Quagoa
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>>160579824
>But they did
Show it, or stop arguing. The text clearly shows the Quag trying to maneuver a negotiation despite being warned, and never actually surrendering until it was too late.
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>>160579783
>reddit spacing
>things Sunlight Scripture was sent after CDL
>While BS was supposed to be sent over Gazef
>And not the other way around like it actually was
>Clementing
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>>160579844
See: >>160577447
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>>160579832
What's next, go on a girls night out with Shalltear and Yuri and hope her cousin doesn't rape her best friend?
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>>160579824
>They were both extremely impatient and unreasonable.
Being patient or reasonable was not what Ainz ordered. He literally told them it was fine to enact genocide. If the stupid rats couldn't take a hint after several warnings and ultimatums, then they deserved what they got.
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>>160579870
See: >>160577303
Maneuvering and conditions, no surrendering. That alone deserves their response as is.
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>>160579871
That would be a good test, yes.
Shalltear is lusting after Yuri too, after all.
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>>160579875
To be fair Ainz just wanted an excuse to reduce their numbers as too many of them would put a strain on his resources.
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>>160579903
> deserves
>70+ IQ moles
>competitors of dwarves who already proved their future usefullness
They deserved nothing and should be thankful for getting more than that.
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>>160579903
No, that is a surrender. Shalltear and Aura were too retarded to accept is as such.
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>>160579864
>reddit spacing
"Reddit" spacing makes walls of text more easy to read.
>things Sunlight Scripture was sent after CDL
>While BS was supposed to be sent over Gazef
>And not the other way around like it actually was
I don't "thing" so, though. See:
>>160579783 >so the Black Scripture was on the task and its members were too busy to be sent after Gazef
Also, very funny of you to make fun of me because of the typo, deep thinger-san.
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>>160579943
>No, that is a surrender.
Negotiation conditions for surrender is not a surrender, especially when you're repeatedly told any conditions are unacceptable.
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>>160579964
No, talking about surrendering is a surrender. Shalltear and Aura ignored their surrender, along with Ainz’s orders, and chose to commit treason.
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>>160579948
Very funny of you to fuck up the timeline too.
BS were on "Red Alert", waiting for CDL to awaken, not fucking patrolling Kingdom territory in case it pops it rotting head from the ground.
Means Nigun was deployed to kill Gazef while BS remained in ST on high alert.
After Nigun failed to report and intel channel got severed - ST got restless and judged that only CDL should be able to wipe out Nigun in that region.
THEN they moblized BS.

Check your facts before presenting your shitty opinion, speedreader-kun.

Also
>thing
*think
Is a typo, but
>Clementine
>Clementing
Is retardation, same as your disgusting spacing.
Paragraphs are spaced by meaning, not every fucking sentence you OCD cunt.
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>>160579964
Stop :>>160579994
He's retarded. Just let it go
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>>160579994
>No, talking about surrendering is a surrender.
Taking too long after an ultimatum was issued gets your cities nuked.
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>>160580026
No, Shalltear and Aura disobeyed Ainz’s direct order. They did not have the right to ignore their surrender.
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>>160580073
Well, guess what?
Ainz knows and he doesn't give a fuck, so shut your trap:
>“Ainz-sama! As you ordered, we’ve finished the selection from the quagoa. There are 4’000 males, 4’000 females and 2’000 children.
>The rest are all corpses. Also, we allowed them to recover the intact bodies and place them elsewhere.”
>“I see. So they rejected my compassion, but now they cling desperately to their final chance for survival. What a bunch of fools.”
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>>160580073
>They did not have the right to ignore their surrender.
They clearly did.
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>>160580148
Actually, Ainz doesn’t know that they botched his orders. He thought they didn’t surrender, when in fact they did.
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>>160580187
>they had the right to ignore Ainz’s orders
No, they absolutely did not.
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It's hard to take anything in this series seriously when you consider how powerful Nazarick is. I read a bit of the light novels and then the manga up until now and Ainz pretty much just spends all his time coming up with pointlessly intricate plans when he's practically unbeatable. If I remember correctly his motivation in the first few chapters was trying to find out if any of his friends had also been transported to the new world so he becomes an adventurer and does some other things, but instead of doing that he could literally just take over every country and just have like a bunch of slaves run around screaming "YO WHERE MY NAZARICK NIGGAS AT? SINCERELY MOMONGA."

Recently it seems like there MIGHT be some kind of new threat with Shaltear being mind controlled but I half expect whoever did that to just be blown the fuck out in ten seconds later on.
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>>160580203
>reporting on "finishing the selection"
>Ainz doesn't even ask if they surrendered or not
He clearly doesn't care.
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>>160579909
>Aura chaperoning Shalltear
Can she learn to restrain her libido?
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>>160580203
>when in fact they did.
Prove it, find the exact quote in the novel where they surrender unconditionally. Protip: they don't.
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>>160580243
He assumed that they didn’t surrender, since Aura and Shalltear told them they had culled their numbers to 10k. He didn’t realize they had fucked up his orders.
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>>160580233
>but instead of doing that
He changed it to make AOG eternal legend you twat.
>Shalltear getting mind-controlled
People with WCI running around, interfering with Ainz recon units is what made Ainz go public, announce the SKAOG foundation and then make surrounding nations recognize its sovereignty through force.
Cruel?
Modern IRL superpower is no different.
>Shalltear getting mind-controlled
>Recently
Fuck ouuta here filthy secondary!
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>>160580280
>He assumed that they didn’t surrender
Rightly, since they didn't surrender.
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>>160580256
The moment he started talking about surrender, Aura and Shalltear ended negotiations. That is not following Ainz’s orders.
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>>160580280
They didn't surrender.
Aure presented terms of surrender, Quagoa did not meet them.
Post the citation where Aura disregards the "We surrender" line.
Quagoa did not voice it hence did not surrender.
Don't you have anything better to do?
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when did the intermission between black scripture regarding ainz killing 180k happen? Ive been searching for it and couldnt find it

volume 10 but where?
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>>160580305
But they did surrender, so he assumed wrong.
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>>160580296
First of all I straight up admitted to being a secondary. Secondly your whole posts reads like you have a legitimate mental disorder so I would consider rewriting it.
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>>160580313
>The moment he started talking about surrender
Conditional Surrender, which they made very clear wasn't acceptable. As such, he didn't actually surrender, meaning Aura and Mare followed the next step of their orders, the culling.
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>>160580313
He was not talking about surrendering.
He was negotiating conditions to an ultimatum.
Ultimatum can have no attached conditions from the party facing it.
This is why it is an ultimatum you dumb fuck.
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>>160580318
See: >>160577447
They ignored his surrender, which goes against their orders.
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>>160580331
You keep claiming it, I don't see you posting it. Feel free to try to any time.
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>>160580334
>I would consider rewriting it.
Rewrite it yourself and then consider suicide.
Then stop posting stale shit from 7 volumes ago for self-satisfaction.
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>>160580340
>Conditional Surrender, which they made very clear wasn't acceptable.
They do not have the right to reject that. Ainz ordered them to accept surrender.
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>>160580358
>See: >>160577447
You see it yourself, it clearly states he was asking for concessions. As such, his surrender wasn't given.
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>>160580358
Citation you dumb fuck: he didn't say the words "I Surrender".
He was trying to weasel out a deal for his people out of ultimatum.
This is dumb, you are dumb, you should join those 50k dead moles.
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>>160580378
There was no surrender.
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>>160580378
>They do not have the right to reject that
They did, Ainz allowed it. He didn't tell them to negotiate their surrender, he told them to give them an ultimatum or kill all but 10k.
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>>160580345
What Shalltear and Aura present as their terms are irrelevant, their ultimatum is meaningless, because it does not fall in line with Ainz’s orders to accept surrender.
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>>160580006
Maybe, the fact that the Sunlight Scripture was sent because the Black and Windflower ones had other important missions remains, Nigun himself wondered why they sent him and not someone from BS. The knights still got back and reported both Ainz and his Death Knight, even if they did it after the BS had been dispatched to catch the CDL.

>Clementing
Nope, it's a typo. You can see Clementine in the very next sentence.
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>>160580374
>Rewrite it yourself and then consider suicide.

No seriously most of it just doesn't make any fucking sense.

>He changed it to make AOG eternal legend you twat.

What the fuck do you mean by this?

>People with WCI running around, interfering with Ainz recon units is what made Ainz go public, announce the SKAOG foundation and then make surrounding nations recognize its sovereignty through force.

I'm assuming these acronyms stand for something and that this is something that happens later in the light novels I said I didn't read.

>Cruel
>Modern IRL superpower is no different.

I assume you meant to quote a different post here? Or something?

>Then stop posting stale shit from 7 volumes ago for self-satisfaction.

Self satisfaction? I'm posting it because his plans are fucking pointless compared to his military might in those volumes, I don't give a shit if you decided to slog through 10 volumes of poorly written poorly translated shit but I didn't so at least learn to fucking read and acknowledge that I said I was only referencing the beginning of the story. What he did at the beginning seems pointless.
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>>160580406
>They did, Ainz allowed it.
He didn't allow anything. He's been kept in the dark about the fact that they did surrender, yet were killed anyway, which is a violation of his orders.
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>>160580425
Ainz did not order them to accept their terms for surrendering. He ordered them to offer them the chance to surrender, or kill them. As such, they followed his words in both letter and spirit, and they deserve promotions and headpats for their perfectly accomplished mission.
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>>160580425
>their ultimatum is meaningless
The order was unconditional surrender or cull.
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>>160580459
Shalltear and Aura immediately began making unreasonable demands without giving him any time to think, were either too retarded to understand that he surrendered or ignored it altogether, thereby disobeying a simple direct order from Ainz, and are therefore filthy, worthless traitors that should be killed on sight.
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>>160580454
>they did surrender
They didn't. Go ahead and prove they did, if you still disagree.
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>>160580250
>Shalltear
>Restricting libido
Picrelated from Rainbow Metal would do the trick.
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>>160580472
No, it wasn't. Ainz never said anything about "unconditional".
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>>160580474
>Shalltear and Aura immediately began making unreasonable demands
That made 2 demands. The first was their immediate surrender, as per Ainz's order. The second was the demand they cull their numbers, as per Ainz's orders. So as you see, the demands were as Ainz ordered, and they did not deviate from the orders one single iota.
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>>160580477
See: >>160577447
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>>160580496
>No, it wasn't. Ainz never said anything about "unconditional".
Ainz never told them to listen to the Quag terms for surrender. He made it very clear the alternatives were "surrender or die".
That is what unconditional means, you dumb Quag.
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>>160580507
The deviation was when they ignored their surrender, which goes completely against Ainz’s orders.
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>>160580508
>but why couldn’t they make even a little concession?
Thanks for proving me right, anon.

>>160580531
They ignored their conditions to surrender, as per ainz's orders. Nice try.
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>>160580447
>What the fuck do you mean by this?
It means read the fucking LN.
He wants to spread AOG fame throughout the world so that any AOG members who ended up in NW would hear the news and come join him.
>I'm assuming these acronyms stand for something
World Class Items are episodes 10-13, go rewatch them if you're a cripple who can't read.
>his plans are fucking pointless compared to his military might
And I'm telling you for the tenth time to go read the fucking LN.
There is foreshadowing of greater conflict and even internal strife in the future.
>poorly written poorly translated shit
Then refer to >>160580296 and get the fuck out if you don't like the story.

At lest stop being a cunt who rages when get told to GTFO out of Overlord thread for not liking Overlord.
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>>160580522
No, retard. Ainz said to not kill them if they surrender, which they did. He never said anything about "unconditional".
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>>160580496
Quagoa did not surrender.
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>>160580554
See >>160580565
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>>160580551
>They ignored their conditions to surrender, as per ainz's orders.
No one cares about Shalltear and Aura’s conditions, Ainz’s conditions are the only thing that matters. And his condition was that they surrender, which they did.
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>>160580590
>which they did.
See >>160580565
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>>160580590
>And his condition was that they surrender, which they did.
See: >>160580565
Aura and Mare had no conditions.Surrender or die.
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>>160580598
Quagoa did surrender.
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>>160580494
That would just make her hornier.
>Aura: you can come out after you promise you won't try to rape Yuri again.
>Shalltear: I promise!
>Aura: she's lying.
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>>160580616
See >>160580318
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>>160580611
>Aura and Mare
t. retard
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>>160579647
I find this whole Quagoa massacre to be somewhat similar to Katze' battle, where Ainz also didn't communicate his capability to the kingdom until the last moment.
Granted, in Ainz's case it was deliberate, because he wanted a large a number of people in one place to proclaim his power on a more global scale and(whatever he knows it or not) destabilize Kingdom in one clear hit.
230 000 vs 70 000 are kinda ridiculous numbers for a medieval war though
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>>160580616
Show the page and the line.
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>>160580624
>dumb Akko butt
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>>160580611
>had no conditions
No, their condition was that it had to be an unconditional surrender, which is not what Ainz ordered. He said any surrender was to be accepted.
>>160580636
See: >>160577447
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>>160580635
>spoiler
Fully equipped Gazef could probably slay those 70k alone, provided Four and Fluder won't join the fight.
It's different warfare mechanics.
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>>160580659
>which is not what Ainz ordered
Post citation.
>>160577447
It's what Quagoa king things, not his words.
Post "We Surrender" citation.
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>>160580654
It was the only picture of lesbians I have in here, think we'll have another onsen chapter but with the female guardians, Enri,Renner, and Pleiades?
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>>160580659
>which is not what Ainz ordered
It is exactly as he ordered. If they didn't surrender, they would die. Those are the terms.
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>>160580700
And they did surrender, but were ignored.
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>>160580553
>He wants to spread AOG fame throughout the world so that any AOG members who ended up in NW would hear the news and come join him.

Yeah and my point was he's so powerful he doesn't have to do it in such a roundabout fucking way. That was my only point of bringing that up, are you seriously fucking retarded or something?

>World Class Items are episodes 10-13, go rewatch them if you're a cripple who can't read.

Dude this series is literally nothing but terms. If you think I remember the specific stupid fucking Isekai label they give everything especially if it's not referenced that often which I know it isn't in the manga, you're dead wrong.

>And I'm telling you for the tenth time to go read the fucking LN.
>There is foreshadowing of greater conflict and even internal strife in the future.

And I'm telling you that everything that Ainz does from the time the manga begins from the time Shaltear is brainwashed, is completely fucking pointlessly complex for what his group is capable of. If that changes then fine, but he literally assrapes everything he even tries to fight up until that point and clearly has no need for caution.

>At lest stop being a cunt who rages when get told to GTFO out of Overlord thread for not liking Overlord.

Stop being such a butthurt little faggot that I criticized your favorite series. And yes, you are allowed to criticize a portion of work if it doesn't make sense in that isolated portion, which it doesn't.
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>>160580706
>And they did surrender
No, they came up with conditions for surrender, which were rightly ignored, as per Ainz's direct orders.
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>>160580696
Enri would be terrified of Renner though.
Have a pic of 7 lesbians.
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>>160580706
>>160580717
Guys you seriously need to stop arguing about this, you've been saying the same thing for like 11 replies now. You're not going to agree by just doing this more.
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>>160580747
I'm just wasting time, I know he's shitposting. Seeing him backpedal in circles is kinda funny.
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>>160580717
No, Ainz did not say anything about ignoring conditions for surrender, which naturally lead to a surrender. Aura and Shalltear botched the negotiation process and failed to accept the surrender that was right in front of them. They failed.
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>>160580724
Enri is great at judging character, I bet she could read Renner like an open book and decipher her twisted mind, also she's already been in two major battles and interacts with Lupus on a dailiy basis, shell be fine. Enri warning Ainz about Renner and keeping her at check when?
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>>160580635
Magic and Super warriors make it more equatable to modern conflict. e.g. 70,000 western trained and equipped forces, with tanks (elite warriors), Gunships (Mages) and cruise missiles etc (powerful mages) vs 200,000 farmers with rusty old guns. in open battle on an open field, not in an insurgency.
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>>160580717
>No, they came up with conditions for surrender, which were rightly ignored, as per Ainz's direct orders.
>as per Ainz's direct orders.
[Citation Needed]
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>>160580796
>>160580821

>No, Ainz did not say anything about ignoring conditions for surrender
He did not tell them to accept any conditions for surrender. Since Aura and Shalltear don't have the authority to decide on nor negotiate terms of surrender, the surrender must be unconditional. As the Quag ignored the ultimatum repeatedly and never once voiced his intent to surrender, he failed and paid for it. Great success.
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>>160580679
>>160580811
I don't doubt that.
Well, let's ignore the real world examples, overlord world is a fantasy that works partially like a video game, so i will accept that some things might be different.

I mean, for example, just how much food and other stuff you need so you can field so much people without going bankrupt?
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>>160580635
>>160580679
Pretty sure it was "only" 60k. Gazef was also afraid of Kingu getting hurt if he was let loose on the battlefield. Still, imagine how much he could level up from slaughtering a number of those 60k elite knights.
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>>160580707
>he doesn't have to do it in such a roundabout fucking way.
Yes, sending Guardians without WCI gone well.
Interrogating Sunlit Scripture members went well too: they died to unknown spell after 3 questions.
DDDL posess WCI, killed Player in the past.
ST plan to use CDL to tank remaining Dragon Lords so he can't be far below 100lvl either.
Fluder says Ainz is "Strongest caster on the continent", implying world is not just 1 continent.
Nfirea can wear Touch Me armor and use guild staff of AOG through Natural Talent: another NW-specific fuckery Ainz still knows little about.
Steamrolling human nations around Nazarick would work out really well if tomorrow Seraphim guild, consisting of human supremacists with a rageboner for PK-ing fuckers from AOG, will land in Nazarick yard tomorrow.
They will definitely understand why Ainz killed half the world for fame.
How did you even missed that part: about need for Casus Belli to justify his actions if other, more powerful Players face him?
>If you think I remember terms
>13 episode series
I think if you do not - you're in no position to hold a discussion here and get the fuck out.
>fucking pointlessly complex for what his group is capable of.
You're just pointlessly stupid and ADHD to comprehend why MC threads with great care and Casus Belli, at least read what I wrote above.
>clearly has no need for caution.
>Someone wielding WCI almost captured one of his 100lvl NPC, one of the strongest one at that
>If they succeeded - it would be used against him
Clearly as a reader you understand that better than Ainz, but still wrong because read the LN.
Also stop self-inserting without 3rd wall: reader always knows more than characters.
>if it doesn't make sense
It does make sense, you're just retarded.
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>>160580796
Post citation.
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>>160580806
>Enri
>Decipher
>Read Renner
It's just her commander-class gut, anon.
She'll know something is amiss, but wouldn't be able to pinpoint it.
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>>160580843
There were no terms beyond what they had the authority to do, all he asked for was a demonstration of their strength. Ainz never said anything about it having to be an unconditional surrender, he clearly said to accept surrender, period. Which they failed to do, thus betraying him. They fucked up, big time.
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>>160580854
> just how much food
They know [Preserve] magic, which is akin to canned food.
Which allowed armies by the hundreds of thousands IRL.
They also have agricultural spells and other stuff that simplifies logistics and stapling.
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>>160580861
>ST plan to use CDL to tank remaining Dragon Lords so he can't be far below 100lvl either
Nope, they only thought about the possibility of having him against Ainz.
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>>160580903
>Ainz never said anything about it having to be an unconditional surrender
He did not give them the authority to negotiate terms for surrender, therefore the only authority they had was to either accept a surrender, or kill them. Deciding on their own which conditions were acceptable for the Quag surrender would have been disloyal and treasonous.

>he clearly said to accept surrender, period
No, he said "accept surrender OR KILL THEM". He never said anything about negotiating, so Aura and Shalltear were correct in their judgement.
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>>160580854
>>160580917
>just how much food
Enough to cripple Re-Estize beyond recovery in several years!
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>>160580928
Well if they judge that it can tank Ainz - surely it can tank Dragon Lords too.
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>>160580967
Sound logic, but still headcanon.
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>>160580960
>He did not give them the authority to negotiate terms for surrender
Demonstrating their strength is not beyond what they have the authority to do. Don’t be retarded.
>No, he said "accept surrender OR KILL THEM".
Yes, and they failed to accept surrender.
>He never said anything about negotiating
He never said anything about unconditional surrender either.
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>>160580894
>Albedo tries to start conversation by urging everyone to talk about their desired ones
>Renner creeps everyone and it gets awkward
>And you?
>Enri: ehh? I'm married ...
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>>160580999
>checked
It's just Dragon Lords were dormant and in deterrent parity with ST while Ainz is a restless neighbor.
It's easy to see what they would prioritize.
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>>160581015
>I'm married ...
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>>160581010
>Demonstrating their strength is not beyond what they have the authority to do
It is, unless they had moved to the culling part of the orders. Which they did.
>Yes, and they failed to accept surrender.
Because the other side asked to negotiate, which they were not authorized to do.
>He never said anything about unconditional surrender
He offered 2 choices, surrender or die. That's the very definition of unconditional. To assume they had the authority to accept Quag conditions is putting words in Ainz's mouth, a crime of the highest order.
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>>160581010
>Yes, and they failed to accept surrender.
No, they didn't.
>He never said anything about unconditional surrender either.
>Our orders state that if you will not accept our rule, we are to reduce your numbers until you are forced to bend the knee.
Quagoa didn't accept his rule so Chair proceed to reduce their numbers as ordered.
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>>160580861
Can you explain why you think the series even implies that there might be something more powerful than Ainz in existence before Shaltear is mind controlled?

It never sets that idea up. Literally every single person he meets or place he goes he completely dominates in a way that everyone reacts to like they've never seen it before and think it's impossible. Everyone talks about how the only magic they've ever seen is tiers below what he uses, and these aren't just random people, they're leaders of armies and people in positions of power. Maybe the light novel decides it's time for conflict and throws in some shit later because the writer realizes it will be boring otherwise, but you're fucking delusional if you think Ainz has any reason to even suspect that there's something more powerful than him anywhere on that planet. And by the way, he already is murdering massive amounts of people, but occasionally for some reason he pretends that he needs to be cautious and it's completely stupid, which is my point.

>If you think I remember terms
>13 episode series
>I think if you do not - you're in no position to hold a discussion here and get the fuck out.

Dude I said I read the fucking manga, and not even that recently. I think you're overselling the idea that I should remember these autistic fucking acronyms that the series throws out like candy to try to strengthen your retarded point.
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>>160581015
>>160581052
Did Ainz ever get invited to the marriage? You'd think with how they pretty much worship him he'd get a invite.
Sounds like something Ainz would have a hoot with.
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>>160581054
>Because the other side asked to negotiate, which they were not authorized to do
>"Ainz-sama, we were not sure how much of your kingdom, riches and bitches we were supposed to give away for a surrender of few thousands filthy dumb moles so we decided that 80% would be a suitable compensation"
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>>160580635
>230 000 vs 70 000 are kinda ridiculous numbers for a medieval war though
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it says somewhere that humans grow faster in the NW for some reason, which could explain the numbers. I think it was around when they were talking about the lizardman children. I could be wrong about that though.
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>>160581112
Found it
>That said, his investigations revealed that the human children in this world developed faster than those in Suzuki Satoru’s world in all aspects, be it in terms of teething, speaking or walking on their own. Of course, that was merely something he had come up with after comparing his observations to his recollections of what Touch Me had said in the past.
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>>160581054
>It is
It isn't. That's like saying breathing is beyond their authority to do. Don't be retarded.
>Because the other side asked to negotiate, which they were not authorized to do.
negotiation: discussion aimed at reaching an agreement. Shalltear and Aura negotiated, that comes naturally with the order they were given. The problem is that they refused to accept surrender, which they were ordered to do.
>He offered 2 choices, surrender or die.
Yes, and he said nothing about that surrender having to be unconditional.
>To assume they had the authority to accept Quag conditions
To ignore Ainz's order about accepting surrender is literally treason.
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>>160580635
>in Ainz's case it was deliberate, because he wanted a large a number of people in one place to proclaim his power on a more global scale and(whatever he knows it or not) destabilize Kingdom in one clear hit
What are you talking about?
It was all JUST fault for asking Ainz to start the battle with his strongest spell.
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>>160581152
It’s Ainz’s fault for voluntarily participating in that war in the first place.
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>>160581133
You keep repeating the part about not accepting surrender but it's bullshit. Riyuro never said they surrender during "negotiations".
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>>160581025
Well, the CDL might not be enough for the PDL. They are ready to charm the CDL but are afraid that their super-weapon won't work on Tsar. Add to this the fact that there are other Dragon Councillors, at least one of which is a Dragon Lord too (though not a true one, it seems) and other unknown factors like army and maybe some special agents, and I don't know if they would be ready to take on the Republic even with a new pet.
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>>160581073
> there might be something more powerful than Ainz in existence before Shaltear is mind controlled
Are you legitimately retarded?
It is an unknown, alien world.
Sure peasants might get squished under half your filnger easily, but what if their lord is 10 times stronger than you?
What then?
You're dead because you were stupid and impatient, that's what.
You can extrapolate that Lord to be a beings sleeping 20km under bedrock and you better learn about their existence first before you bend the world.

You sound like a typical teenager cringelord and would suit role of 8GK well.
They too thought they could fuck'em'all and rule NW, now they're all dead and PDL sits at the seat of their power.

>Dude I said I read the fucking manga
Then I already answered all your questions with "Read the LN".
Because then there would be no torrent of idiotic questions from you, but you still refuse to GTFO or read LN and instead expect me to answer all your questions.
>I think you're overselling
I think we're done here, read the source, then we can discuss.
Untill then you lack the base for a discussion interesting to me.
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>>160581104
>invited
What super spell would he cast to entertain the guests?
>Enri: it would be an honor if you could come to our wedding your majesty.
>Ainz: yes, I also had friends and they also would get married, I'll never go to such magnificent events again *keeps looking into the distance*
>Enri: a-are you alright your majesty?
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>>160581193
But he did. >>160577447
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>>160581188
But is wasn't Ainz plan or anything. Emperor asked Ainz to open the battle with spell and Ainz, after seeing so many people in one place, decided to go for Goat record.
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>>160581133
>It isn't.
It is. A condition for surrender is a tacit rejection of your rule unless conditions are met. Conditions which, they were neither inclined to consider nor ordered to. There was no negotiation, the terms were clear. Surrender, or be culled.
>Yes, and he said nothing about that surrender having to be unconditional.
He also didn't say they couldn't give them 80% of his riches and bitches. Without explicit instructions to negotiate, they weren't allowed to negotiate.
>To ignore Ainz's order about accepting surrender
His order was to accept their surrender or kill their majority. Since the rat did not surrender but instead tried to negotiate, they were authorized to kill. I mean, I know we're just going back and forth here but don't you feel a little shame that your entire argument hinges on a surrender that was never stated?
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>>160581073
Manga might be a worse source of information than the anime though.
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>>160581104
>invite
I think he was the Priest.
Or maybe not, maybe Enri x Enfi wanted low-key ceremony and Lupu did it.
A dog cleric is fine too.
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>>160581223
His exact words were the following:
>“...You say you want to rule us. However, it is very difficult for us to accept your proposal without knowing your strength. Does that make sense to you?”
Nowhere does he say he surrendered. Since he didn't surrender, they moved to the next phase of Ainz's orders, as they were expected to.
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>>160580854
>foodstuff
we had a really good discussion about the logistics of farming and stuff. And the feasibility of fielding massive armies at that level of bureaucracy and stuff. overlord threads have a habit of massively over analyzing it.

>>160581054
see >>160579647
Clearly demonstrating their power lends credibility to their demands for surrender.
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>>160581230
>It is. A condition for surrender is a tacit rejection of your rule unless conditions are met.
Wrong. He did not reject anything.
>Surrender, or be culled.
And they did surrender, but it was not accepted.
>He also didn't say they couldn't give them 80% of his riches and bitches.
Don’t be a dumb faggot. All they asked for was a demonstration of strength, that was their only condition. They asked for nothing of value.
>His order was to accept their surrender
Which they did not.
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>>160581194
I thought they could defeat PDL as it is, but it would leave ST so devastated - it wouldn't worth it.
Maybe with CDL they can pull through somewhat in one piece.

Also place bets which vol best girl Leinas will join SKAOG.
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>>160581246
See: >>160577447
Shalltear and Aura were too retarded to accept surrender.
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>>160581241
I feel like Lupu would skip the whole marriage ceremony and get straight to the consummation
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>>160581223
I just thought about fucking a girl.
Does that mean I had sex?
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Can we talk about male valkyries now?
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>>160581285
I think even author doesn't analyse his work as much as we sometimes.
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>>160581347
Learn how negotiation works, retard.
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>>160581285
>Clearly demonstrating their power lends credibility to their demands for surrender.
Do you take SKAOG equivalent of a ministers for fucking jests to do your biding filthy mole?
Surrender or die, there is no other options
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>>160581324
>“…You say you want to rule us. However, it is very difficult for us to accept your proposal without knowing your strength. Does that make sense to you?”
>In other words, he was implying that “if you tell me how strong you are, I don’t mind being ruled by you.
That's not saying you surrender.
Also
>I told them I was willing to bend the knee, but why couldn’t they make even a little concession?
They were ordered to fuck moles until they surrender not making "a little concessions".
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>>160581340
>Consumation
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>>160581216
>Everyone is used to it at this point and awkwardly yet politely waits till the king snaps out of it.
>I guess there really are downsides to living forever?
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>>160581206
>Are you legitimately retarded?
>It is an unknown, alien world.
>Sure peasants might get squished under half your filnger easily, but what if their lord is 10 times stronger than you?
>What then?
>You're dead because you were stupid and impatient, that's what.
>You can extrapolate that Lord to be a beings sleeping 20km under bedrock and you better learn about their existence first before you bend the world.
>
>You sound like a typical teenager cringelord and would suit role of 8GK well.
>They too thought they could fuck'em'all and rule NW, now they're all dead and PDL sits at the seat of their power.

Did you just not read the part where I say literally nobody he meets has seen any of the magic he uses and reacts to it in a shocked way? Did you not read the part where I say that includes extremely powerful government official and leaders of military might? Did you miss literally everything I typed so you could imply that it's possible that he just missed all the people with power even though that's obviously not the case? Seriously fucking off yourself you retarded faggot.

>Then I already answered all your questions with "Read the LN".
>Because then there would be no torrent of idiotic questions from you, but you still refuse to GTFO or read LN and instead expect me to answer all your questions.

All of my points are present in the light novel. I only read that autistic drivel until up to about the part where he defeats a WHOLE FUCKING ARMY but telling me to read the light novel isn't going to help you here buddy.

>I think we're done here, read the source, then we can discuss.

I think we are done, since all of your arguments from now on are going to be "but what if l the military doesn't know about these super powerful people? And the adventurers guild doesn't? And the peasants don't? And the guy Shaltear defeated who gets mindbroken who literally devoted his life to honing his skills doesn't? Which is of course autistic drivel.
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>>160581285
>Clearly demonstrating their power lends credibility to their demands for surrender.
Unimportant, since Ainz never told them to demonstrate their power.
>>160581289
>And they did surrender
They did not, and you have still not shown where the Quag leader said they did, only his inner thoughts.
>All they asked for was a demonstration of strength, that was their only condition.
Their orders were to accept surrender, not to accept conditions. Since the Quag king offered conditions instead of surrender, they followed Ainz orders to kill them.
>>160581324
No surrender was offered, only conditions. As their orders were to accept surrender, not conditions, they followed their orders to kill them.
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>>160581370
Answer the question.
You use a citation from LN that have Quagoa King thoughts in it, not words.
He thinks that he surrenders.
You insist that this proves that he did.

Post the citation where he says it faget.
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>>160581383
>They were ordered to fuck moles until they surrender not making "a little concessions".
No, they were ordered to accept surrender, but they were too retarded to do so.
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>>160581351
Ok
Would you this cute?
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>>160581285
>Clearly demonstrating their power lends credibility to their demands for surrender.
And demonstrate they did: by killing 50 thousand Quags, then accepting their surrender.

>>160581414
But they DID accept surrender: after demonstrating their power by killing 50,000 moles, as per both Ainz's orders and the Quag king's request.
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>>160581414
But he didn't surrender.
He said he's willing to surrender after they show him their power.
Which they did by fucking up his minions.
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>>160581241
>ST agents at the wedding
>Ainz singles them out as the only ones alone gets melancholic and starts spewing real stuff about him and his friends
>"H-he knows who we are!, he's making fun of us!!"
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>>160581316
We don't really know the PDL's power.
We know that Rigrit thinks that he is holding himself back and could be the strongest in the world if he wanted to.
We know that he can cast nuke spells, the equivalent of which would force a far weaker Wild Magic user to sacrifice about one million human souls beforehand.
We know that he is a child of the Dragon Emperor, whose title sounds befitting of the strongest Dragon Lord.
Plus he sits on a treasury of powerful player artifacts.
That's about it.
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>>160581398
>Their orders were to accept surrender, not to accept conditions.
[Citation Needed], where does it say they were to only accept an unconditional surrender?
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>>160581397
>extremely powerful government official and leaders of military might
Of humans, who are weakest race in NW.
>All of my points are present in the light novel.
And you miss half the others because you're a dumb fuck.
>but what if l the military doesn't know about these super powerful people
You also don't know jackshit about PDL, BDL, DDDL but still refuse to read the source materials to support your claims.

You off yourself filthy secondary.
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>>160581424
Is this a man?
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>>160581439
>>160581440
But Aura and Shalltear disobeyed Ainz and committed treason by killing them instead of accepting their surrender.
>inb4 it has to be unconditional!!!
Prove it.
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>>160581464
Where it says that they are to accept surrender, instead of conditions for surrender. Pretty simple, right?
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>>160581464
Quagoa were to submit, not surrender.
If you make demands then you've not submitted yourself.
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>>160581424
There are clear boob lines, this valkyrie is not (male) enough.
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>>160581493
>killing them instead of accepting their surrender.
They accepted their surrender, though. The Quag king asked them to demonstrate their power, which they did by killing 50 thousand Quags, and then they accepted their surrender.
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>>160581494
Nope, Ainz says nothing about only accepting an unconditional surrender.
>>160581509
Semantics.
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>>160581493
They were told to accept surrender, not conditions.
No surrender means death.
Conditions mean death.
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>>160581522
>They accepted their surrender
No, they didn't. Accepting their surrender would mean to not kill 50k of them. Demonstrating their power would obviously mean in a non-violent way. Let's not be retarded, anon.
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>>160581528
>Nope, Ainz says nothing about only accepting an unconditional surrender.
His orders were explicit: Accept surrender, or kill them and then accept surrender. They didn't surrender but instead asked to see their power. Aura and Shalltear showed them their power by killing 50 thousand Quags, then accepted their surrender.

They were so brilliant they both obeyed Ainz' orders to the letter, and gave the Quag king his conditions.
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>>160581522
This.
Quagoa King asked them to prove their power and 50k is minimum number that Nazarick Floor Guardians can slay to prove their point.
Anything less would be disrespectful towards SB and Ainz.
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>>160581340
She would ask for proof of their virginity or she won't marry them, Clerics have standards
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>>160581529
Ainz says nothing about only accepting an unconditional surrender.
>>160581558
>>160581560
See: >>160581556
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>>160581556
>Demonstrating their power would obviously mean in a non-violent way
Neither Ainz nor the Quag king said anything about non-violent demonstrations of power. He only asked to see their powers, and they showed it.
If the quag king had made no demands and surrendered, their power would not have to be shown, and so his people would have been spared.
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>>160581569
>proof of virginity
There's proof for males?
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>>160581599
>Ainz says nothing about only accepting an unconditional surrender.
Not a problem, since they accepted the Quag King's condition to surrender and fullfilled all of Ainz's orders, all at the same time.
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>>160581603
>>160581622
Excpet, that’s not all what happned. They refused his request, which they understood to mean a non-violent demonstration, because they’re not as retarded as you. They ignored his attempt to surrender and committed treason by disobeying Ainz.
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>>160581556
>Accepting their surrender would mean to not kill 50k of them
That's just what you're saying.
>Demonstrating their power would obviously mean in a non-violent way.
Good one.
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>>160581475
>Of humans, who are weakest race in NW.

So what, because they're the weakest they don't know anything about who is strong? They've got people exploring the world and they're building countries but for some reason they just have no idea about anything going on? Does that seem like a rational thing to say to you?

>You also don't know jackshit about PDL, BDL, DDDL but still refuse to read the source materials to support your claims.

So I looked up that first acronym, and apparently it stands for Platinum Dragon Lord, and although I'm not surprised they started adding in shit to try to keep things interesting, you're a complete fucking moron if you think it was ever implied that something stronger than Nazarick existed. But of course, you're going to keep acting like there totally could have been some secret super duper powerful things that existed that all the people Ainz met at the start of the manga totally just didn't know about. Even though once again I reiterate that he talked to many people that should have an understanding of the going ons around the world. But I guess they just had no idea about any of this shit.
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>>160581340
>Enri asks Lupu for a low key ceremony
>"Leave it to me!"
>Wedding day
>Lupu and Enri in Enris house, ready to head to meet the groom
>Leave house
>Gobo and troll marching band, full military parade of the entire Gobo army
>Beasts of the forest lined up to salute
>literally the biggest wedding ceremony the NW has ever seen.
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>>160581640
>They refused his request, which they understood to mean a non-violent demonstration
Prove he asked for a non-violent demonstration.
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>>160581641
>That's just what you're saying.
That's what Ainz said, speedreader.
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>>160581556
>Demonstrating their power would obviously mean in a non-violent way.
You're saying they ought to hold a fucking friendly olympics inside the WCI with moles?
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The whole bloodthirsty child monsters vs moles business didn't end as beneficially for Ainz as it could is also because the Quagoa King sacrificed his best troops in that whole affair, which means that the survivors are not the best of the best, barring a few exceptions like the King and that one named Red-furred officer.

Ainz doesn't have to rip his non-existant hair over the problem of feeding a huge number of metal-eating humanoid moles, but he still has to do something with remaining losers.
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>>160581662
It doesn’t matter anyway, since they refused his surrender, and chose the cull option, ignoring Ainz’s orders.
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>>160581669
But they had to fulfill the conditions of the Quag king, which was a show of power. And they had to fulfill Ainz's orders, which was to kill them until they surrendered.
They fulfilled both, by demonstrating their power killing them until they surrendered. As you can see, there can be no complaints about this elegant solution.
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>>160581674
He probably means blow some shit up that isn't 50,000 moles.

But this argument is getting hilariously off the rails, I've been reading this whole time and it's just becoming more ridiculous.
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>>160581608
Lupus can sniff out virgin males but it only works on Shotas, for Enfi she wouldn't have to worry, for Enri she would have to make a full body check, a mamarie inspection, taint inspection, anal rigidity test, prolapse, hymen inspection, urethra play and enema capacity test.
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>>160581689
>since they refused his surrender
He didn't surrender. He asked to see their power before he would surrender, which they showed by killing 50 thousand moles. Once that was out of the way, they accepted his surrender, as per his terms and ainz's orders.
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>>160581674
I’m saying they could’ve have just used a high-tier spell in an abandoned area, thereby demonstrating their power harmlessly.
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>>160581686
>he still has to do something with remaining losers
He already has the airlines.
It's time for subway.
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>>160581721
They could have, but the Quag king did not ask for that. He should have surrendered in the first place instead of asking for stupid shit.
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>>160581699
Except, that’s not what happened. They reused his request.
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>>160581699
Shut the fuck up, Shalltear, Ainz ordered you to target only bandits and other such low-lives who won't be missed but you went after adventurers and fucked up so hard that you got mind-controlled.
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>>160581745
His request was to see their power. They demonstrated their power. Thus, they did not refuse his request.
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>>160581771
>they did not refuse his request
But they did, and chose the cull option.
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>>160581644
>They've got people exploring the world
Who are mostly never come back, you'd know that if you read LN attentively.
In most of the world humans are slaves, cattle or do not exist as ethnicity within a nation at all.
>if you think it was ever implied that something stronger than Nazarick existed
Others Players and guilds you dumb fuck.
Those are the things Ainz wary the most.
And if they're not here now - Ainz was not in NW few years ago either.
There were 8GK and 6GG and 13 Heroes, all were Players and all are now DEAD.

Also Nfirea under NW-specific invisibility spell can walk into Nazarick, take SKAOG from Cherry Blossom Guardian and disband the guild.
I'm simplifying it, but subtle unknown NW-specific fuckery, that Ainz knows nothing about, is even more dangerous that some Dragon Lord that can probably fuck one of your guardians in 1v1.
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>>160581739
>the Quag king did not ask for that
He did not ask for 50k of his people to be killed. They did not grant his request.
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>>160581797
>and chose the cull option.
As per Ainz's orders.
>>160581818
He asked for a show of power. 50k of his people dead is a show of power. They granted his request.
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>>160581798
>but subtle unknown NW-specific fuckery, that Ainz knows nothing about, is even more dangerous that some Dragon Lord that can probably fuck one of your guardians in 1v1
But the true Dragon Lords are the ones who are most likely to have such a thing at their disposal, since their magic is native and doesn't work by Ygg rules.
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>>160581797
He didn't submit.
Ainz told them to keep killing moles till they submit.
It was never about his request.
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>>160581721
>they could’ve have just used a high-tier spell in an abandoned area
>thereby demonstrating their power harmlessly
Nobody believed "Iä Shub-Niggurath" was a reality happening to them until they were staring up at the hooves of Dark Young trampling them.

Quagoa would not simply believe magnitude of power Aura and Shalltear wield, so it would require much more than 1 simple AOE spell at empty area to convince them.

Which brings us back to the point:
Do you take Nazarick Floor Guardians for a fucking circus to entertain worthless moles?
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>>160581837
>As per Ainz's orders.
No, Ainz's orders were to accept surrender, which they did not do. They ignored surrender for culling. You cannot do both, it's only one or the other.
>He asked for a show of power. 50k of his people dead is a show of power. They granted his request.
No, that was them culling, which had nothing to do with his request, by their own admission. They ignored his request, they ignored his surrender, they ignored Ainz's orders.
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>>160581658
>Everyone but Ainz was invited
>She didn't think it was important enough for him
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>>160581730
>subway
Will there be Adamantium tubes, filled with demons?
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>>160581754
No bully bloody loli!
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>>160579545
>Ignoring how Ainz played with the thought about giving the Quagoa prismatic ores to eat and seeing the resuslts....
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>>160581905
Adamantium tubes with hundreds of Quagoa pulling fuck huge sleds filled with demons.
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>>160581883
>Quagoa would not simply believe magnitude of power Aura and Shalltear wield, so it would require much more than 1 simple AOE spell at empty area to convince them.
No, I'm pretty sure one powerful AOE spell would do the trick.
>Do you take Nazarick Floor Guardians for a fucking circus to entertain worthless moles?
So you prefer that they ignore Ainz's orders, you mong? Aura and Shalltear are worthless traitors.
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>>160581896
>No, Ainz's orders were to accept surrender which they did not do
They did though. They accepted the surrender of 10K Quags.
>They ignored surrender for culling
No, they accepted the terms of the surrender, which was a show of power, via the culling.
They did, in fact, do both. Aren't they simply amazing? They fulfilled every condition set upon them to negotiate the surrender of the Quags.
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The thing with the Quag debate though is that they are not like the lizards, with a basic society and culture that can be incorporated into the SKAOG. Unlike the Lizards, dorfs and Humies, they're not easily folded into the SKAOG. Dwarfs produce weaponry and cultivate the mountains, Humans manage the greater society and the lands, (and let Ainz have his fun Larping as Momon). The lizards do the same for Cocytus and the swamps. Ainz doesn't actually seem to intend to rule as a king of the ashes, so these subjects, insignificant as they may be, are actually critical if he wants to achieve his goal of creating a prosperous kingdom.

And thats the key - While pretty much every other citizen race of the SKAOG ultimately works within his new society, the Quags provide nothing more than a drain on resources and provide little. Especially when compared to the Dwarfs, who create functioning cities. They have little value beyond fodder. Military? Not what Ainz needs.

The goal that Ainz has set for Nazarick is actually pretty difficult, because its something that can't be obtained with pure force, which they have in abundance.
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>>160581194
Shouldn't there be some kind of level requirement for all his shit? Or is he actually level 70+
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>>160581958
>ignore Ainz's orders
>"Kill moles untill they surrender."
>"Do you surrender."
>"No, but blah blah blah something blah blah."
>"Ok."
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>>160581965
>They did though. They accepted the surrender of 10K Quags.
No, that was culling, were they are required to keep 10k alive, regardless of whether they surrender or not. Accepting the surrender is in regard to the 70k Quagoa.
>No, they accepted the terms of the surrender
Nope. They chose culling, by their own admission. You can't cull and accept surrender at the same time. Aura and Shalltear are shit.
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>>160580324
if you use the "fanfic" its probably pretty much on the top because it was "written" as a extra.
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>>160581857
That's true about DL
But, say, a syndicate of individuals with unique powerful Innate Talents, NW-specific Spells and Martial Arts could avoid taking Nazarick head on and instead lead a successful guerilla warfare or hit a critical by permakilling some crucial NPC or infiltrate Tomb undetected thanks to talents, spells and martial art, destroying AOG staff, posessing Ainz or other unexpected shit that was not part of Yggdrasil mechanics.

Is that plausible?
Entirely: world is huge and every in 200 inhabitants said to have a talent, that's 25k for 5mil population.
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>>160580324
In the intermission.
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>>160582006
>No
They never said no, speedreader.
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>>160581937
>implying Ainz would waste enough precious Yggdrasil materials on 60k Quagoa
>Instead of feeding few test groups totaling 15 moles
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>>160581956
>SKAOG Olympics
>Underground Death Bobsleigh
>Featuring volunteer Quagoa
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>>160582014
>No, that was culling, were they are required to keep 10k alive, regardless of whether they surrender or not.
No, the purpose of the culling was meant to convince the quags to surrender. 50K killed was the minimum number Ainz proposed to convince the quags of surrendering, if they didn't do so in the first place.
>You can't cull and accept surrender at the same time
Of course not, but the Quags didn't surrender: they asked to be shown the power of Nazrick before surrendering. So by culling, they accepted the terms of the surrender, fulfilling both objectives perfectly.

I love that while trying to paint them as traitors you only succeeded in showing everyone how brilliantly they handled the situation, anon.
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The author has boner for dragons. Where's my undead dragons at?
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>>160582105
One is probably sleeping in Ainz's back yard.
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>>160582046
>"However, it is very difficult for us to accept your proposal without knowing your strength"
They asked to see their strength before accepting their proposal. They saw their strength, and accepted their proposal.
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>>160582046
You should try rape and then pleading same argument in the court of law.
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>>160582115
Hope so. We already have enough bone creatures, we need an actual corpse.
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>Ask once

“...There should be two more of you. What happened to them?”

>Ask twice

“...You say you want to rule us. However, it is very difficult for us to accept your proposal without knowing your strength. Does that make sense to you?”

>Ask thrice
*Thinking*
“W-wait─”

Put on your Nazarick hat and think about what you'll do when a lower lifeform failed to answer a yes or no question directly from AOG 3 times.
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>>160582086
>No, the purpose of the culling was meant to convince the quags to surrender.
The culling was to only be done if they refused to surrender, which they did not.
>the Quags didn't surrender
But they did. Ainz never said anything about the surrender needing to be unconditional.
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>>160582046
My post was an obvious exaggeration, humiefag.
But here, let me fix it for you.
>"Kill moles untill they surrender."
>"Do you surrender?"
>he didn't surrender
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>>160582165
Learn how diplomacy works, retard.
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>>160582195
Diplomacy don't force a choice between slavery or genocide to the opposition, retard.
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>>160582169
>which they did not.
>"However, it is very difficult for us to accept your proposal without knowing your strength"
This is not surrender.
>Ainz never said anything about the surrender needing to be unconditional.
That's fine, since their condition was a show of power. Perfectly fulfilled conditions.
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>>160581980


>>160582105
>>160582159
>implying you've had enough Death Knights in your life
Wait for Ainz to summon many of the dreadful Death Knights against a low-tier Demon King in volumes 12 & 13!
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>>160582116
Nope, Aura and Shalltear refused their surrender condition and by their own admission chose the cull option. You can't accept surrender and cull at the same time.
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>>160581980
Sorry, didn't want to link you here >>160582239
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>>160582247
>Nope, Aura and Shalltear refused their surrender condition
The cull option perfectly fulfilled the surrender condition, so how can you say it was refused?
They accepted the surrender after fulfilling the condition of the surrender, which was the cull.
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>>160581798
>Who are mostly never come back, you'd know that if you read LN attentively.
>In most of the world humans are slaves, cattle or do not exist as ethnicity within a nation at all.

>They've got explorers but literally none of them make it back or live long enough to send a pidgeon or give any indication of what they've seen! It totally makes sense that the entire human population and every other population in the beginning of the series has no idea about any of this shit!

Yeah that makes sense. Mind showing me the earlier parts in the manga where everyone makes a big deal about the fact that an entire part of the world is just totally unexplored and everyone who has ever visited it has died? Also mind explaining why everyone is shocked to find out strong things exist when their guys are constantly being murdered by incredibly powerful things they've apparently found no way to measure? Also care to explain why those strong beings have never made some sort of move that would indicate they exist?

>Others Players and guilds you dumb fuck.
>Those are the things Ainz wary the most.
>And if they're not here now - Ainz was not in NW few years ago either.
>There were 8GK and 6GG and 13 Heroes, all were Players and all are now DEAD.

Care to explain why Ainz thinks taking the name Ainz would be covert when other players would know the name too then? Care to explain why if these players entered the same way as Ainz ONCE AGAIN THE HUMANS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE INTERACTED WITH HAD NO IDEA THAT POWEFUL MAGIC EXISTED YOU RETARDED INBRED FUCK WITH 50 IQ ARGUMENTS. Not that I'm upset that you're ignoring inconsistancies in logic to try to prove your moronic point though, not at all. Keep doing it all day, I love shooting down these fucking completely stupid arguments in seconds when you could have just thought about it yourself.
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>>160582230
>The cull option perfectly fulfilled the surrender condition, so how can you say it was refused?
Because you can't accept surrender and cull at the same time.
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>>160582306
>Because you can't accept surrender and cull at the same time.
They didn't surrender, they had conditions before they surrendered. The cull option fulfilled those conditions, after which the Quags surrendered, since their conditions were met.
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>>160582330
They did surrender, but were ignored. Shalltear and Aura refused the surrender condition and chose to cull them, against orders.
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>>160582277
Manga skips tons of exposition in order to go through volumes. Stop treating at as a credible source of information, it even skipped Slane Theocracy intermission which showed one real powerful being native to the New World.
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>>160582083
>SKAOG Olympics
>1 Flight amulet per 10 skydivers mid-air free-for-all
>Speed Evil Trees branch hacking
>Disqualified if it wakes up and kills you
>Black Capsule, Venomous Cave & Kyouhukou room Fort Boyard
>50m Kyouhukou Free-Style swimming featuring speed roach-eating
>Severed zombie head football
>Undead-infested Maze athletics
>[Delayed Drifting Mine] badminton
>Quicksand volley with severed zombie head
>Precision voicebox extraction on live target
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>>160582387
>They did surrender
>"However, it is very difficult for us to accept your proposal without knowing your strength"
This is not surrender. This is a condition for surrender. The condition was fulfilled with the cull, since killing 50 thousand Quags showed them their strength. Once that was done, the Quags surrendered.
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>>160582419
>no whack-a-mole contest
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>>160582469
Who's the mole?
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>>160582481
DDDL
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>>160582460
A surrender was presented to them, as Ainz never said that only unconditional surrenders were to be accepted. Cull and accept surrender are exclusive actions, they cannot be performed at the same time. By choosing to cull, they refused the surrender of the Quagoa, which goes against Ainz's orders.
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>>160582552
>A surrender was presented to them
False: a condition for surrender was presented to them, which they fulfilled with the cull. The cull was, by Ainz's order, a tool to convince the Quags to surrender, if they didn't surrender unconditionally. Since the condition the Quags presented was a show of power, and the cull is exactly that, they fulfilled the conditions with the tool Ainz authorized them to use, and secured the surrender flawlessly.
And no, cull and accept surrender are not mutually exclusive, because the cull was meant to convince the Quags to surrender in the first place.
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>another Overload thread
>another topic that causes lots of trolling and shitposting
Bait.
Bait never changes.
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>>160582613
>False: a condition for surrender was presented to them, which they fulfilled with the cull.
Wrong. A conditional surrender was presented, which is a surrender.
>Since the condition the Quags presented was a show of power, and the cull is exactly that, they fulfilled the conditions with the tool Ainz authorized them to use, and secured the surrender flawlessly.
Absolutely wrong. The cull was only to be done of they did not surrender, which they did.
>cull and accept surrender are not mutually exclusive,
Yes, they are. Ainz said so.
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Less focus on the molemen and more on how perfect she is.
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MALE VALKYRIES
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>>160577469
Who cares about if he surrender or not. The girls did a damn good job breaking down this king ambition. Sobbing like a child. To dominate your enemies,you need to break their pride down. Just like how Jerky got mind break in chapter3. The guy practically gave up on resisting. Just look at him in the end.
>Former king: we will grind ourselves into dust to serve you!
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>>160582878
She's a traitorous retard who can't follow simple orders.
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>>160582897
>Who cares about if he surrender or not.
>Who cares if they bothered to follow Ainz's orders?
Fuck off, humiefag.
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>>160582897
t. lower life form
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Aura and Shalltear fucked up, they followed the orders but handled it badly, Ainz would have been upset if he saw how they handled it. It doesn't matter about the quagoa but the fact they couldn't come close to how it should have been handled.
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>>160581674
Trash a large patch of land using a powerful spell.
Demonstrate the dragon corpses.
Challenge the strongest fighter one on one and utterly humiliate him.
Mass hold species on elite mole squad and gorge one eye from the each one, including the king.
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>>160582892
% HP DAMAGE
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>>160582878
Yeah. The main focus was about Shalltear getting her confidence back anyway. And the way Aura and her acted is just perfectly suited for their age. Naughty naive children with OP power that like destroying weak little things. They don't need to think too hard about what Ainz said and just show show him that they work really hard.
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>Nips still butthurt about getting 200,000 civies wiped out
>US: We were just proving out strength lol
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O
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>>160582481
>>160582534
In Soviet SKAOG, the mole whacks you.
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>>160582788
>Wrong. A conditional surrender was presented, which is a surrender.
Only if the condition is met. If the condition is not met, the surrender isn't valid. Therefore, until the condition is met, there is no surrender.
>The cull was only to be done of they did not surrender
The cull was used to meet the condition of surrender, which it did. Until the condition was fulfilled, there was no surrender.
>Yes, they are. Ainz said so.
Ainz specifically says the cull was meant to convince the Quags to surrender. Since the Quags specifically asked to be convinced to surrender, the cull did just that.
So they fulfilled Ainz's order, which was to kill them until they agreed, while simultaneously fulfilling the condition to surrender laid by the Quag king. It was the only course of action which would have satisfied all conditions. Ainz never forbade them from killing the Quags to facilitate surrender, in fact it was the direct purpose of the cull itself.
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>>160583047
>% HP DAMAGE
Wouldn't that mean it's not gonna kill anyone at the end?
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>>160583033
And your point is? Overlord was never about doing things perfectly according to the plan. Is these little misunderstandings that makes Overlord so awesome. The end result is what important.
>Moles knows that they can never rebel again no matter how long they endured
>less mouths to feed(which Ainz was worried about)
>made the dragons ever more afraid seeing the slaughter
>Shalltear get to have fun and show her power instead being use for opening portals.
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>>160583187
That they're incompentent here? Is it really that hard to understand?
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I'm proud of this thread.
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>>160583290
It was a good thread
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>>160583277
>Fulfilled every condition set by Ainz, and the condition of surrender set by the King, in one move
>Incompetent
They're so competent they created a paradox of fulfilled conditions.
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>>160583277
>Ainz wants 10k moles
>Ainz gets 10k moles
>incompetent
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>>160582959
Moron. They did follow his orders. Which npc's didn't follow his order but misunderstands anyway?
>cocytus:was order to attack with a crappy army. Which he did without even thinking how to command the troops
>demi:order to collect skins. Which he did by using humans
>Sebas:collect information. Which he did but started to play hero in the damn city
>Albedo:gave her permission to create a black OP squad. Which she did but planning to use it for something else.
>Aura:conquer the forest.Which she did but left the leaders of the forest alone before Ainz show them their place.
There is not a single NPC that actually follow his orders the way he wanted anyway.
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How high is the chance for Albedo, Aura and Shallter to enter E-Rantel for a shoping spree?

Probaly with Tsuare as a guide htrough the city now that she is about to become the headmaid in E-Rantel
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>>160583177
It can if it is % damage relative to the initial HP pool of the target.
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>>160583367
What would they want to buy in E-Rantel?
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>>160583372
Do I hear Male Valkyries?
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>>160583356
>There is not a single NPC that actually follow his orders the way he wanted anyway.
Aura and Shalltear did.

>Ainz wants 10k moles
>Ainz gets 10k moles
>Ainz wants them to show the power of nazrick, if they don't swear loyalty
>Mole wants to see the power of Nazrick before he swears loyalty
>Mole sees the power of Nazrick, then swears loyalty

There was literally no better way to fulfill his orders.
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>>160583304
But we shouldn't probably create another one.
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>>160583376
Clothes ect? If i remember correctly they talked about it in Drama 2 how they wished they had more clothes. Albedo only had alot of underwear but only her one dress (and alter the one Ainz gave her vol 10) and shalltear has alot of different clothes for pervoronchinos fetishes.
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Sweet dreams
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>>160583277
And who is actually find them incompentent? You? Ainz said they did a good job. And that is enough. Who are you to judge if it was good or not? Ainz was pretty happy that they have their own personality. We don't need machines doing perfect work.
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>>160583356
This brings me back to what I was saying the other day. Nazarick has a terrible command structure.

>>160583367
>Meeting of the guardians
>Ainz mentions he saw a cute dress on sale in E-Rantel when he was walking through as momon, but is pretty vague about it.
>Aura, Shalltear and Albedo descend on the city and desperately hunt for what they think is the cutest dress.
>On their best behavior because Ainz sees them as momon and "warns" them to behave.
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>>160583309
>>160583325
Sometimes you have to think about how to do things well.
>get told to cook a egg
>overcook the egg till it tastes shit
>its ok, I still cooked it, job done perfectly

If you're going to do a job, do it well.
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>>160583402
I'm not going to
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>>160583424
I don't think E-Rantel have something to offer to compliment Albedo's wardrobe.
And Tsuare is on Shopping DragonDicks Trip in capital with Sebas as it is.
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>>160583438
They did an amazing job, though.

>The moles saw the power of nazrick, as they wished
>Ainz Got his moles.
>None escaped
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>>160583430
This pic makes me sad.
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>>160583438
You're trying to hard.
>overcook the egg till it tastes shit
You could say that if there were only few hundreds of moles left.
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>>160583451
But I am.
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>>160583367
Keep dreaming. Albedo would splatter the street with those insect blood. Shalltear has all the stuff she need from her creator. At most she would kidnap a few virgins to play with.
The maids are planning to go have some fun in the city. The males are probably gonna go wild from that
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>>160583488
This whole thread has been him running in circles trying to play doubles advocate by pretending a trying to set conditions for surrender is the same as surrender.
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>>160583474
>>160583488
He didn't get all the moles that he implied he wanted when he asked them to surrender. Not getting them all is fine as he asked for that as a backup incase they failed to get them to surrender.
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>>160583514
Sameperson?
In Overlord thread!?
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>>160583390
Just answering that other anon, you memester.
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>>160583464
Since Vol 6 they left the capital aka Re-Estize.

And Sebas& Tsuare will stay in E-Rantel to maintain the mansion for Ainz together with some human maids while Tsuare will be the headmaid. Check out the pleiades sidestory.
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KOTAE WA DOKO EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>160583397
It turn out pretty good at the end didn't it. Ainz should send them to E-rantel and have Mare build a underground city for them.
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>>160583554
But they're on honeymoon in the capital with Nabe cockblocking them, are they not?
Was it really E-Rantel?
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>>160583433
Can't be help. Technically the npc's still have the mindset of children anyway.
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>>160583537
>He didn't get all the moles that he implied he wanted when he asked them to surrender.
He got the exact amount of moles he wished in his orders. “If they are fools who will not swear their loyalty to me, then reduce their numbers to around 10’000 or so".
Meaning if the moles did not swear loyalty, he only wanted 10K moles. He got exactly that, every single condition he set in his orders was perfectly executed.
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>>160583588
Yes did you forget how all operations in Re-Estize were finished in Vol6 returning Sebas and Tsuare to Nazerick where she undergoes maidtraining, and Sebas asked at the beginning in vol 7 i think about taking Tsuare for shopping to E-Rantel?
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>>160583651
>shopping in E-Rantel
That sound like vacation to Moldova
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I wonder what happen to that scribe that Jerky left behind in v9 chapter 1 anyway? Is he doing well? Or is he experience some heave experiment from Demi and Ainz?
I kinda want him to serve loyally to Ainz and help him govern his city.
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>>160583690
He is sucking on Shalltear's huge boobs all day long.
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Shame on Sebas
>>160583845
Where are levels in cuck?
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>>160583871
If cucks were like Sebas, NTR people would be an endangered species.
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>>160583647
>Aura and Shalltear, you are to face the Quagoa and have them submit to my rule.
>If they dare to refuse, then show them the power of Nazarick!”
There are 2 parts here, Aura and Shalltear did not make the Quagoa submit, they didn't even try, they just gave a ultimatum.
>If they are fools who will not swear their loyalty to me, then reduce their numbers to around 10’000 or so".
Thats a IF there, yes he's fine with it but its not his original plan, its a backup plan.
If you can only implement backup plans you can't say you did it perfectly, you can only twist things by saying you followed orders.
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