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>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5vb9al

Who will win the joker bowl?
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>>160492482
Realistically, none of them. They'll tease a romance between each girl a bit, never follow through with it, then Joker will somehow get beaten up on Valentine's Day anyway. Even with her massive popularity, I don't see them risking a canon romance with Makoto.
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Might be good, but P5 is my least favorite cast and A-1 is shit, so we'll see.
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>>160492541
They won't be risking one, period. Naoto didn't get shit, neither did Aigis.
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>>160492482
Sensei
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>>160492482
I hope one of them becomes canon just to see the shit show
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>>160492541
Aren't Futaba and Makoto equally popular in Japan?
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Yusuke
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>>160492967
No, I'm pretty sure Makoto is by far the most popular in nipland and the west
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>>160493009
I don't really understand Makoto popularity
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>>160493105
How is Morgana this liked? He's worse than Teddie.
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>>160492967
>>160493009
I thought it was something like
Makoto >> Futaba >>>>> everyone else
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>>160493135
>He's worse than Teddie.
No he's not. You hate him because go to sleep meme?
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>>160492967
An official popularity poll is coming out in a few days with the new Mainiax book releasing, but off the top of my head I think it's something like

>Japan

Makoto > Futaba > Ann > Haru > the rest

>West

Makoto > Futaba > Ann > Kawakami > Haru > the rest

I kinda hope they pander to western piggus by teasing Kawakami,
but that's a pipe dream
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>>160493135
Nah. The sounds and music drown out his constant talking in battle not mention him actually being a party member who's useful to boot.
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>>160493105
Japs are known for having shit taste.
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>>160493105
People have good taste for once
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>>160493105
>worse Kanji is in last place
At least neither of the worse Mitsurus were first.
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>>160493135
JOKAH KAKKOI
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>>160493171
His fit throwing pissed me off, he singlehandedly ruins September.
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>>160493321
Ryuji is worse. Does a complete 180 after Madarame and made the game suffer for it
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They better have Joker meow when Ryuji's freaking out over Morgana talking.
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>>160493321
Still miles better than Teddie who ruins every scene he's in.
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>>160493366
At least Ryuju didn’t try to kill the squad and sorry his way into forgiveness.
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>>160493156
Pretty much. These are results from one of the official polls

1. Goro Akechi - 201
2. Joker - 170
3. Makoto Niijima - 167
4. Yusuke Kitagawa - 163
5. Morgana - 103
6. Futaba Sakura - 95
7. Tae Takemi - 42
8. Haru Okumura - 41
9. Ryuji Sakamoto - 40
10. Ann Takamaki - 30
11. Sadayo Kawakami - 29
12. Hifumi Togo - 24
13. Sojiro Sakura - 22
14. Yuki Mishima - 17
15. Toranosuke Yoshida - 13
16. Twins - 12
17. Munehisa Iwai - 11
18. Lavenza - 8
19. Lala-chan - 7
20. Chihaya Mifune - 6
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>>160492482
>Who will win the joker bowl?
The oc donut steel girl secretly connected to the true story that the expansion will introduce.

Or Lavenza I guess.

>>160493366
The game in general felt like it changed writers after the Madarame chapter to me.
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>>160493424
>The oc donut steel girl
Whom?
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>>160493135
Apart from the September melodrama Morgana is a bro.
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>>160492482
Yuusuke
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>>160493424
Lavenza wins by default
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>>160493444
It's a joke about Marie from P4.
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>>160493424
>>160493444
Sophia.
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>>160493411
>Ryuji, Hifumi and Lavenza that low
Disgusting
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>>160493558
It's last year poll when the game still fresh and new.
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>>160493444
Mysterious female character the protag can connect with, Atlus likes adding those to rereleases of their games (P4, Strange Journey, Radiant Historia)
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>>160493526
Oh. Yea she sucks
>>160493543
Fuck I kind of want a FeMC route now
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>>160493411
Where is this poll from? The few I saw always had Joker at number one.
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>>160493504
Tfw the September drama actually
made me like Morgana more. His insecurity and his realization of seeing the PTs as his family were really nice.
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>>160493605
>tfw playing P3P as FEMC felt like playing a otoge
And this is why I play otome games despite being a red blooded heterosexual male, the heroines are too cute most of the time.
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>>160492625
Why would Naoto get anything?
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>>160493746
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>>160493791
Because Naoto has literally always been the most popular P4 girl?
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Pre-release magazine poll
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>>160493746
Fuck off you homo.
Except you're a grill like me.
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>>160493874
Ann’s really fallen far
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>>160493874
Post-release. The other official polls was the twitter one, and the new one coming out in a few days
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>>160493899
>btw I’m a girl
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>>160493925
>a great design like Arsene wasted on a persona you replace like half a hour into the game
Not like this, I know you can just re-fuse the sucker with a better kit but goddamn.
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>>160493925
Kinda surprised to see Yusuke higher than Makoto.
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>>160493853
>Koromaru 6th
Acceptable taste
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>>160493925
Yusuke confirmed best girl
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>>160493972
>Not keeping him all through the playthrough
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>>160493981
They have been pretty close in these kinds of polls since the game released. Their vote count was pretty close in the twitter poll >>160493411
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>>160493746
Of all MC of persona Joker probably the most fit.
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>>160493972
It's a shame, because Izanagi in P4 could be useful for a while (especially if you abuse skill upgrades via shuffle time in P4G), whereas Arsene gets outpaced very quickly. Having two natural weaknesses, and no natural nulls, sucks.
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>>160494107
Check again.
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>>160494107
>probably the most fit
Stop looking at fanart.
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>>160494107
Door-kun is the fittest
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>>160494166
>>160494195
Not that guy, but it's canon that he work out occasionally.
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>>160492482
All of them. A classy phantom thief gets all his women.
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Posting best persona.
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All things considered I hope the anime at least makes an attempt to match the art of the game with striking color tones and heavy lines, like the OP of the game, or during the fight sequence of daybreakers. P3 and P4 as adaptations of ps2 games could get away with its standard anime visuals, but with P5 it's just going to look completely inferior to the game.
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>>160494166
>Guy you lost to Yosuke
>fit
Joker would crush him
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>>160494275
The anime sequences within the game seemed pretty on par with current anime standards.
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>>160494275
I'm expecting quality similar to the OVA desu
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>>160493874

Ryuji's the best character what fucking faggots are they asking jesus christ am mad
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>>160494275
Didn't the reveal trailer just reuse the art from your image? I hope so too.
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>>160494270
This fucking asshole made the spaceport so much more annoying than it needed to be.
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>>160493746
Joker is sexy as fuck in his butler outfit, no, seriously. That one is probably the most fabulous outfits sets out of all the DLC outfits. It's kind of a shame that his mask and glasses usually hide his cocky expression more.
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>>160494378
To be fair he look fabulous in all costume.
Thank god for dlc content.
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>>160494378
>That one is probably the most fabulous outfits sets out of all the DLC outfits
>Not the dancing all night set
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>>160494311
And it was all pretty disappointing, I wished they did all those sequences in-engine. Just imagine how terribly underwhelming the Sataneal sequence would be with that animation?
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>>160494462
His DAN costume is good but not FAB like that anon was saying. On the other hand, his Christmas Santa outfit was fab as fuck.
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>>160494534
Why is Ann dressed as a demon for Christmas?
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>>160494462
It's cool and all but not the classy fab type.
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Lovers being Mc's gf is ALWAYS CANON. ALWAYS. So Ann wins by default.
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>>160494555
Before Haru basically just becomes Yukiko, Anne is supposed to be the crazy one.
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>>160494645
The only thing canon about Lovers is being a slut.
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>>160494645
Lovers arcana is for pump n dump.
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>>160494469
Yeah the cgi cut-scenes were always on point. And I hope someone at A-1 gets a clue that they're fucking up making Ryuji shorter than Akira when he's not slouching.
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>>160494645
Except Maya, Aigis, and Marie were all more canon then the Lovers girls.
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>>160493411
>a literal serial killer gets 1st place over mc
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>>160494669
Yukari is NOT a slut, the other 2 are
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>>160494771
>fangirls
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>>160494771
PANCAKES MOTHERFUCKER
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>>160494810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHjkcVkpWo0
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>>160494788
Remember when even Junpei, DA MAN himself, didn't know if Yukari had a boyfriend despite being such good friends with her? It's because when Door became a door, Yukari's vagina became one too. A revolving door.
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>>160494754
>this delusion
Yukari, Risette were the canon women. Don't kid yourself.
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>>160494839
Do you have any proof of this? Especially considering that two anime basically exclusively ship Aigis and Marie with their respective MCs?
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Man I wanna fuck a tincan.
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>>160494978
Which one?
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>>160494876
Anon, this is widely recognized. Just search it off google I'm too lazy to explain it to you.

Yukari is the canon lover.
Rise (arguably) is the canon lover.
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>>160493105
>I don't really understand Makoto popularity
She's made to be likeable and P3-4 fanbase eat waifushit
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>>160493874
>>160493853
>Boring ass gary stu is first
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>>160494876
you realize that anime aren't written by Atlus, right?
In both adaptations it's just Kishi going on a rampage, and that guy's track record is all around terrible.
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>>160495152
>calling your self-insert boring
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>>160495109
The point is she's not all that likeable. I don't hate her and she got few cute or cool scenes in the game but generally she's party pooper.
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>>160495056
>tfw Metis is gone forever
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>>160495080
But I know I won't find anything because there is no canon girl.

>>160495171
Of course
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but will it have the QUALITY of P4A?
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>>160495235
This can't be real
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>>160495206
omorashi fetishist appeal
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>>160495235
Of course it will, the real question is if all the fighting will be dumb Pokemon battles like P4A had.
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>>160495206
Even though it provides zero gameplay benefit at that point, you get the most notes from Makoto during romance scenes if you pick teasing options.
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>>160495235
No, and it won't be as sexy either.
https://youtu.be/duGMGrDw6Ig
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I want to see Makoto unstealthely following around joker with her comic book.
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>>160495304
How retarded do you have to be to draw, color, animate these frames without noticing her?
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>>160495206
I'm a fan of her, but how can you not see how everything about her is basically designed to pandwr waifufags?
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>>160495171
Like Persona writing is much better.
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Fuck this weeb western pandering shit, I'd rather get Nier: Automata adaptation.
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>>160494344
Cocksuckers like Yousuke. He is the worst bro and is the most popular one.
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>>160495346
That's literally every female character since P3 at the minimum. Those same archetypes were then reused for two more games.
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It's either gonna be Makoto or nobody
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>>160495440
So....what's the difference?
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Kawakami or we riot
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>>160495508
Near A tomato is a deep and mature game for deep and mature gamers such as myself.
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>>160495510
The worst thing about P5 was Kawakami not having her normal hairstyle when she wore her maid outfit.
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>>160494978
The other game tincan.
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>>160495503
How about everybody.
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>>160495565
And it still better than Persona 5.
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>>160495510
At the very least Kawakami will have a lot of screen time compared to other side characters.

>>160495575
Tell me about it. Her twin tails are shit compared to that godly sex hair.
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>>160495639
>romancing Futaba

absolutely disgusting
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>>160492967
Nah it has always been Makoto > Futaba >>>>> the rest of the girls.

On the boys side, If I remember correctly, Akechi was the popular one in the beginning, but then Yusuke and P5MC reigned supreme in the end. Poor Akechi, still a pancake till the end.
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>>160495503
I'm almost positive this is pre-release.
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>>160495639
Hifumi looks more confused than angry.
Tae looks disappointed, like she almost expected this.
Makoto looks like she's about to go nuclear.
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>>160495694
She's one of the qtest.
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>>160495703
It is. The post release poll is here >>160493925

Also there's a new poll coming out next week with the release of the Mainiax book.
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>>160495694
I agree, it is disgustingly cute.
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>>160495639
>tfw can't date Morgana, Sojiro, Iwai, Yusuke and Ryuji
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Nobody will win, but I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle Futaba. I'm sure whatever episode they dedicate to her will be cute as fuck. Just hoping that the MC is smug.
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>>160495781
I wanted to date Yusuke so bad
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>>160494555
Because the store only had leftover halloween costumes.
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>>160495503
It's gonna be different Niijima.
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>>160495825
Wait for the remake, it'll let you play as a girl.
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>>160495887
I wanted to date him as Joker tho
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>>160495508
Nier fanbase didn't go "muh university setting" "muh american highschool" "muh white people mc transfer student in japan".
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>>160495346
Unlike Futaba, the gamer girl little sister that's a social retard without you?
Or Kawakami, the christmas cake sensei that's also your maid?
Or Ann, the beautiful, fair and just foreign enough model whose true nature can only be seen by you?
Every female character is made to appeal to some demographic.
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>>160495440
Nier doesn't work in other mediums unless you got a extremely competent director.
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>>160495916
So it's weeb western pandering by not complying with the demands of western retards? The devs have implemented none of those requests.
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>>160495973
Nier: Automata movie adaptation by Kei-tai director Makoto Shinkai, out in 2020.

>>160495978
The series got a new director though, who to say it won't happen?
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stop talking about groo holy shit
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>>160496011
You're being retarded. Fuck off and die.
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enough about how Makoto's the canon love interest
lets talk more about her figure
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>>160495938
What's the Ohya demographic?
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>>160493853
>Yosuke 2nd
This alone makes the whole list shit. Fuck you Japan.
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>>160496080
Too hung over to be posting on 4chan at this time.
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>No Sae romance option
I'm still sad.
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>>160495973
And even then the only way it would work is if the adaption tells a different story or alters the original story a whole fucking lot.
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>>160496078
I want to hot glue the bike
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>>160496080
The margin of error.
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>>160496078
>tfw they never made her mask a motorcycle helmet because they realized that she'd only wear it whenever she wasn't riding her persona which would be stupid.
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>>160495819
Same, I'm looking forward to Sojiro & Futaba's S link fully acted out.

>Awkward bonding after the fight
>Sojiro's "dad" moment
>Depressing tour around Shujin
>Calling card being discovered
>rank 10 "You gave me my life back"
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>>160496078
I'd rather this smelly neet.
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>>160495645
Go fuck yourself, bandwagoning scum.
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>>160495832
>does nothing but berate you and everyone around her for most of the game
>fags still fall for her
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>>160496078
>>160496281
For all its popularity why does Persona always get such average looking scales? That Makoto pose and proportions are weird af and Futaba's face is kinda off.
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>>160496234
>Can you please not get together with Futaba?
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>>160495508
His mom and dad won't laugh at him so hard for still watching cartoons.
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>>160494771
Is Akechi's VA still popular? Maybe the ghost of Kira Yamato is afoot.
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>>160496394
>does it anyway
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>>160496375
Because gamers don't buy shit and attempted to pirate even the models.
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>>160496375
Atlus is cheap
very cheap
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>>160492482
Will the Joker be OP and choose the idiot anwers?
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>>160496457
>>160496463
Think of it like drug dealing. Dealers give the good stuff (P5 itself) to first-time customers to get them hooked, but palm off inferior product (spinoffs and shit merchandise) to repeat customers because they're too addicted to know better.
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>>160496457
How do you pirate models?
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>>160496372
She's the sexiest.
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Reminder
Makoto > Tatsuya = Akira > Yu > P1MC
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>>160496581
Hell if I know, but gamers won't let that stop them because they laugh at giving any money to people that brighten up their lives.
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>>160496605
>Makoto only cares about Aigis and Ryoji
>helped Ken kill Shinji
>somehow the best
yeah, no.
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>>160496703
>Ken kill Shinji
>The movie is canon
Uhhh
Anyway, Makoto is canon the strongest persona user
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They'll probably waste 90% of the budget in the seiyuus and then fund the animators with a sandwich and two coke cans.
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>>160496703
>>160496605
This was fucking with my brain.
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>>160496119
Wait for P5: 2nd version
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>>160496723
You are using his movie name, so yes I'm assuming that's the version of MC you are talking about.
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>>160496605
I agree Makoto is best girl, but why is the rest of the rank is a protagonist?
That's not how you rank character.
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>>160496723
Maybe with universe card. Tatsuya and Joker are much stronger and base level.
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>>160496755
>He still thinks P3 MC is called ""Minato""
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>>160496725
God I hope so. I honestly only care about it for all the QUALITY it might have.
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>>160496699
Those kind of fuckers need a change of heart.
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>>160496750
People like to call him Makoto rather than MC all the time. who knew?
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>>160496725
>Listing both Char and Quattro
That's fucking cheating and you know it.
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>>160496781
*at base level
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>>160496849
Lieutenant Quattro Bajeena is not Char.
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>>160496605
This guy know what he's talking about.
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>>160496842
More like idiots like to call him Makoto.
MC doesn't have a canon name, when you use "Makoto" you are refering to a specific character in anime adaptation, or 2nd worst girl in P5
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>>160496812
Oh you're referring to P3 MC?
Meh.
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>>160496904
Minato is his canon name.
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>>160496877
I mean when you really think about it, Makoto is the true protagonist of P5.
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>>160496904
But Chad Ziodynecock has a canon name though.
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>>160496904
People call him Minato or Makoto, it doesn't matter. You're losing your shit over a name.
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>>160496946
Minato Arisato is his manga name, Makoto Yuki is his anime name
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>>160496875
Kai thinks otherwise.
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>>160496605
Reminder
Minako>Yu>Akira>Aigis>the rest
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>>160496973
I'm not losing my shit at all though. I disagreed with the first guy because Makoto was a shit character, not because he used that name.
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>>160496875
>Lieutenant
He's a captain.
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Makoto > Minato < Minako
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>>160496946
Door-kun is the only canon one
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>>160497008
>Makoto was a shit character
I agree with you on that, at least.
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>>160496986
>non-canon
>Above anything
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>>160497008
Agreed, he's much better as Minato.
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>>160496080
Drunk pathetic chicks is a fetish, I think.

She's a shit waifu but she was one of the only Confidants on the female side of the cast where I actually enjoyed the plot to it. Ohya's, Tae's, Tora's, Sojiro's, Iwai's and Yusuke's were all pretty entertaining I thought. Chihaya's picks up after an initially weak start and Futaba & Shinya's ones were cute too I guess. I didn't care much for the stories in the other Confidants at all.

Also what was the deal with this chick? She had different portraits and her model had multiple costumes despite being an NPC exclusive to Ann's Confidant. Was she a dropped Confidant herself or something?
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Have any of you even played a SMT game that's not Persona?
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>>160497144
I played SMTIV and Apocalypse

so technically I've played just as many SMTs as I have Personas
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>>160497117
Find out in Persona 5: Crimson
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>>160496060
Truth hurt.
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>>160497144
Yes, most of them.
I had more fun with Persona and there is not much to talk about in SMT.
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>>160497144
Yes? What does that have to do with anything being discussed?
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>>160497144
Ofcourse
Nocturne, IV,IVA,DeSu1,DeSu2.
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>>160497088
Her canonicity doesn't matter because she's just so much better.
>Genki vs emo
>Interacts with her party members instead of randos
>Saves Shinji
How is she not better?
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>>160497144
Yes, and?
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>mfw Joker picks all the smug answers and calls everyone out on their shit
>the Hawaii trip with Mishima where he can barely put up with his shit
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>>160494270
>using physical attacks, ever
Do people like losing health and making themselves easier to kill or what?
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>>160497144
SMT main series are garbage games for edgefest and considering how uninterested edgefags at paying for the game, even the edgefags agreed.

So they deservingly get jack shit.
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>>160497211
Seeing Joker characterized more is the only reason I'm interested in this
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>>160497223
>he doesn't know
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>>160497223
Physical attacks are far superior in pretty much all of the games. The fuck are you talking about?
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>>160496080
A realistic woman, therefore nobody wants her real ass.
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>>160497223
>Doesn't know about World of STR.
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>>160496173
I'd bang pope Joan. The game pissed me off when it taught her like she was real in the classroom though. Modern scholarship says pope Joan was nothing more than medieval legend.
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>>160496593
She certainly is hot as fuck. Still a bitch though
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>>160497170
Insecurity complex over SMT's spin-off being more popular than SMT, even though SMT started out as a spin-off itself and overshadowed what it was spinning off of in the same way.

Too bad Catherine didn't really take off and then overshadow Persona (though I'm not sure whether or not it counts as a spin-off, although I believe Vincent cameo'd in P3P or something).
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>>160497223
Don't make me Hassou Tobi your ass
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>>160497211
In Daybreakers he's cockiest motherfucker
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>>160495503
>Arusenu
Why not "Arusen"?
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>>160497211
Yu was the best part of P4A because of that after all.
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>>160493853
Hahaha that's fucking retarded. Naoto is shit. I would take Rise the idol whore over the reverse trap. Nigger what the fuck
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>>160497211
>mfw all the students are shocked at how good Kawakami looks in a bikini during the Hawaii trip.
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>Persona threads are better on /a/ than /v/
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>>160493009
That's some good fucking taste.
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>>160497382
>>160497408
>fluff cake maid sensei
Can one girl be any more best?
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i want to eat makoto's ass
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>>160497423
It's always like this, not with just Persona.
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>>160497144

Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2, Devil Survivor 1 and 2, Devil Summoner, Nocturne, SMT4

Fuck off with your elitism
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Real MC ranking
Bunny>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(power gap)>>>>>>>>>>>>>the rest.
Prove me wrong
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>>160496101
Yosuke was only bearable in PQ, where (unlike everybody not named Ken) he had a lot added to his character. I have no idea how he got second before that came out.
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>>160495346
>there are character in persona games that aren't created for people to fuck
You must be high out of your head. Even the male cast is designed for chicks, man. They're maximising their chances, and it works even if it makes things a tad artificial the more and more often they do it.
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>>160497211
The best thing they can do is give him the smug as fuck personality in the anime.
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>>160496781
Tatsuya 100%, but MC has fusion spells and versatile weaponry. He's more powerful than Joker for sure.
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>>160497423
They are? I was under the impression this had been a crossboarder hotspot for /v/. Guess I am wrong.
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>>160497223
>MAGbabbies
Going World of STR in P5 was a blast. Kept Ryuji, Makoto and Yusuke in my main team and used Morgana for healing outside of battles.
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>>160497144
>Persona
>SMT game
If you're going to be elitist at least know the name of the franchise.
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>>160497223

World of STR shits on magic pretty consistently famalam
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>>160497223
Phys is 100% better in everything but DeSu1.

Technically, the most powerful Persona in P5 is MAG Kaguya, but that's pay to win bullshit.
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Wonder if there'll be an expansion/Gold edition that goes into detail about who arranged the chance encounter with Shido
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>>160497144
All of the PS2 and DS titles, I'm a Nocturne baby.
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>>160497223
Sasuga damegami.
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>>160497223
That elephant reflect physical though.
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>>160497223
WURLD OF STR, MOTHERFUCKER
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>>160494771
He spoke the truth but no one would listen. Truly the unsung hero of the persona-verse. Also, now he is canonically on the 'good' side and jail breaks to fight mystic threats when he knows they're happening.
He killed a few bitches and whores but now he's by all rights an anti-hero rather than a villain.
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>>160497655
Not the same guy, but that point is kinda moot since no one ever complains when people call dds or raidou games are called smt games.
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>>160497618
>I was under the impression this had been a crossboarder hotspot for /v/
/v/ doesn't like anime
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>>160497610
Door-kun fights and sometimes struggle against masked shadows which are much weaker than p5 full power ones. Joker have superhuman stats, stronger personas at base and all kind of cognition bullshit skills. And fusion spells is a meme. In p2 god hand was a fusion spell but it's normal skill in p3-p5. Similar Cadenza was fusion spell in p3 but is normal skill in p5.
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>>160494771
Can you really hate this handsome lad?
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>>160497815
I-I do.
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>>160497873
>tumblr
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>>160497694

Not even. Swift Strike is fucking stupid broken in DeSu 1 as long as you have the Agi. The only reason not to go Physical would be for the secret boss, otherwise you can just glass cannon everything.
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>World of STR
>Not World of GUN
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>>160495906
>when best boy was still alive
I miss him. Surely they can wank a way for him to be alive and appear in spin-offs
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>>160496593
I want to fuck her while her sister watches.
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>>160497864
Where was it ever said that unmasking a Shadow makes them stronger? If that was the case, why are we unmasking Shadows in P5?
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>>160497839
I'll believe you, /a/non.
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>>160497897
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>>160497900

Multi Strike*
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>>160497900
>He doesn't go Sacrifice + Holy Dance

>>160497932
Is called world of DEX
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What moment are you most looking foward to in the anime?

>Shido quickstepping around and fistfighting the PT, and generally wrecking their shit, set to the bgm of RIVERS IN THE DESSERT.
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>>160497865
>Joker using Odin and Ryuji with Thor's hammer 2v1ing Akechi for maximum POTTERY
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>>160497988
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>>160497940
>Where was it ever said that unmasking a Shadow makes them stronger?
Yes. Caroline and Justine explain it when you asked them in velvet room
>If that was the case, why are we unmasking Shadows in P5?
Shadows can take off masks on their own anyway but if you do it forcefully with sneak attack they get confised for few seconds which is ambush
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>>160497891
Well atleast you are honest.
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>>160498084
*confused
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>>160497988
>Beach scene
>Makoto stalking
>PILLAGE HIM, SATANAEL
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>>160497988
Makoto's Awakening
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HOLD UP
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>>160497940
To show them their true form.
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>>160497655

Persona 3 and 4 were SMT you fucking idiot. It's an offshoot. Look above the title.
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How many scenes will chuuni shogi get? This is important
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Ideal energy levels are up since shadows look like demons again. Philemon in P6 soon.
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>>160493746
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>>160498216
Not enough to make her as interesting as any other chuuni character from anything ever.
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>>160493105
Fujo fucks BFTO
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>>160498220
>Philemon in P6 soon
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>>160498200
>What is a localization error
They're Megami Tensei games. They're just Persona games in Japan, which is why it's not called SMT: Persona 5 over here in America. In Japan, only I, II, Nocturne, IV, IV:A, NINE, and SJ are considered SMT. KMT, Persona, certain Devil Summoner games, Devil Survivor, and DDS are all their own series. Some also consider Catherine to be a Megami Tensei game.

This distinction is important because they're basically separate entities when it comes to decision making in Japan and when it comes to celebrations.
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>>160497864
Cognition bullshit is just that, skills based on the area. Any of the characters using the app would have cog skills regardless of which game they were from. IIRC it was canon that the p1-2 and in their prime 3 crews (and the trinity kids if you want to include them) that could use their persona in the real world. They are canonically stronger. They make a point of showing it in Arena/Q with Fuuka being a better nav and Rise getting gud
In terms of games 3>5>4 (I won't rate the old school ones)
In terms of MCs we have
>p3
>stops the a God based of human ideation. It is well known and eternal. It's otherwise totally unstoppable.
God like feat. Incredible but he "dies".
>p4
>stops a local born corruption. Turns out it was just a mid-tier local God playing around to see how humans react to certain situations. Kicks her ass though.
Pretty big deal. He was also favoured by her personally and got a BS persona.
>p5
>stops a local God. More importantly stops it AFTER he reality warped in his own domain. Does so with no divine intervention or assistance ( yu was literally a Goddesses favourite and Door still had the velvet room around)

Hard pick for MCs. The winner is clearly Door. He was the only one going up a real and proper threat. Nyx isn't a new God rising up on some national unrest but an eternal thing woken early by fuck wits. It's on its own threat scale.
Joker did more or less what Yuu did but without all the help and favor so. Door>Joker>Yu
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>>160498216
Judging from p4 maybe 1 episode or less.
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>>160494350
Yes, so far they traced and reused existing art.
And it's actually worrying. It might be visually interesting but we'll probably get the same level of quality as the OVA we got before the game's release.
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>>160497988
Mona getting kicked, Futaba wearing her mask and freaking everyone else out

pretty much anything goofy. I hope they capture the mix of funny/heavy just right.
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>>160498379
To be fair, P3 MC stops by sacrificing his life.
Which doesn't even related to powerlevels.
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>>160498440
I can't believe this skinny shrimp gets all these women moist.
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So what season do you think it will come out
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>>160498440
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>>160498440
Best date in the game by a country mile.
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>>160497988
This
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>>160498409
Every Persona anime has been hideous, except for the movies, which were just poorly directed.
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>>160498268
Shit taste
>>160498387
It's not enough damn it
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>>160498379
>stops a local God
Yaldy is whole humanity governor, not just for Japan. He's as much world ending threat as Nyx
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>>160498379
>IIRC it was canon that the p1-2 and in their prime 3 crews (and the trinity kids if you want to include them) that could use their persona in the real world. They are canonically stronger
you are forgetting that P4 and P5 didn't even know it's possible to summon Personas in real world in the first place. For all we know they'd be able to do that if not for the fact that they believed it's impossible.
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>>160498330
>YFW he appears in the spinoffs only because Atlus will never let him back into mainline.
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>>160497198
N O N C A N O N

>>160498564
That's what you get for caring for nobodies.
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>>160496080
nonexistent
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>>160496725
Amazed that Matsuki Miyu is in the cast for this game. Must have been one of the last things she did ;_;
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>>160498587
Well, Hashino left P-team, maybe the new director get balls to reintroduce Phil.
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>Fukuyama Jun as Joker
GUYS
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>>160493925
Wait, wasn't there a post-release poll with Goro landing first?
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>>160498582
He's focused entirely in Tokyo. He might think he's more powerful than he actually is, but that's due to his nature as the Demiurge, who is convinced he's more powerful than he really is.
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>>160498591
She's not a nobody. She's an important confidant. She should've been a party member too
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>>160498631
I was really touched by this, it means they kept her recording in 2015 or earlier intact all the way until release and never recasted.
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>>160498582
all gods in Persona are born from humanity's wishes as a whole, none of them are there "just for Japan"
Nyx however is a force of nature that existed independently from humans. Yaldy was a shitter that only needed people of Tokyo to turn against him to turn into a weak bitch.
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>>160498583
Except they specifically have trouble with it in arena unlike P3 and P3 didn't know you could do it outside of Dark Hour but still figured it out on their own.
P3 rolls all over the scooby doo crew and the psychonauts.

>>160498582
>literally needed to use the tokyo dungeon to power up
Yeah no nigger.
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>>160498564
Honestly, she's the second most popular female confidant behind sexy doctor. She'll probably pop up at least once.
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>>160498685
>Hifumi
>Important
Pick one and only one.
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>>160494876
>>160495171

P3 has The Answer which is canon. From it, I'd wager that the P3 MC was canonically a manwhore, who at minimum hooked up with Yukari and Elizabeth, and possibly Aigis too. The motivations and actions of those characters in the answer are not those of "just friends": or "unrequited love for a dead guy" unlike the rest of the SEES crew.
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>>160498731
if she pops up so do i
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>>160498650
Where were you all this time?
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>>160498650
He was always Joker though? Don't tell me you played P5 in english
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>>160497223
>not using physical attacks in SMT
Are you insane? Unless you're Bunny and can dance your ass off, there is no other option.
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>>160498729
>Except they specifically have trouble with it in arena unlike P3
They didn't even try in Arena, 90% of the game haoppens in TV world.
>P3 didn't know you could do it outside of Dark Hour but still figured it out on their own.
P3 had years of research from Kirijo group to learn from, they did know it's possible
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>>160498770
He's 100% a man whore but if Yukari is canon than Aigis is especially considering.
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>>160498770
Yukari was ever the overly dramatic bitch. She was totally in character for unrequited love and grief.
Liz and Aigis are autistic as fuck and basically children with their first crush. Agis was always smitten and devoted to him given their shared past, in character. Given Liz's actions you do have to assume he made it through Liz's missions.
The only confirmed romance is Liz, and thank God for that. She is best girl.
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>>160498760
Switching party members and escaping battle are arguably more useful than most confidant perks.
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>>160497223
>not going World of STR
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>>160498685
Fun fact: Hifumi was enlisted as one of the party members confidant at the beginning of the game creation, but she didn't fare so well with the focus group and Atlus decided to go with Makoto instead.
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>>160493411
I don't understand why people don't like Chihaya. It hurts my fucking soul.
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>>160498855
My Desu2 party was almighty bunny, Fumi, Jungo and Nurse/Dancer lady.
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>>160498553
yukaricchi is erotic
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I wanted a Nier Automata anime.
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>>160498966
dead VA
people are afraid she will haunt them if they masturbate to her too hard
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>>160497223
>not building LCK/STR
It's like you want to waste your energy.
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>>160498966
Because she's retarded?
>these stones are totally legit
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>>160498951
Fun fact: most of that is just speculation and conjecture.

The only thing we do know about Hifumi's role in the party was that there's multiple scrapped designs for her in the artbook. However, considering she was wearing a pirate outfit we can probably assume she was a much different character.
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>>160498677
Yaldy actually got feats. Erebus, against whom p3 team struggled, can literally be one shotted by vr attendant. Yaldy not only can beat vr attendants but also Igor himself with ease
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>>160498951
>>160498685
Good. The weak should fear the strong.
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>>160498760
>teaches Joker how to use battle strategies in Momentos and Palaces
>has arguably some of the best confidant abilities in letting you freely switch party members in battle and escape easily
She makes more sense as a "strategist" then Makoto desu
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>>160499027
I mean, Fortune Tellers are probably pretty powerful in the Personaverse due to you know, the whole Arcana thing.
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>>160498966
Because Haru exists
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>>160498675
That was the twitter poll someone posted the results for earlier in the thread. Goro was ranked with the supporting cast in the post-release magazine poll and got booted to 2nd by the twins.
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>>160498928
I want to sniff Sae's underwear.
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>>160499028
Right, people are pulling shit out of their asses with Hifumi when if you actually read, it was just that her character design was an initial party member concept, and later reused for the confidant.
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>>160499120
>got booted to 2nd by the twins.
Based.
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>>160499042
>literally dependent on tokyo faith to function
>can be slain
Ayyyyyyy. Yaldy is a little bitch. Even P4 had a stronger contender (even if she was just fucking around). What you should be arguing for in terms of Joker being strong is that Yaldy got to fuck with and limit his development. Which gives him the edge over Yu who handled a simailr threat with all the help in the world and without the world actually getting warped and his existence fading.
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>>160499042
We have no idea how powerful Lavenza is compared to Elizabeth, who is immensely powerful.

We also don't know the specifics of how Demiurge did what he did; how he found the room, etc, etc. Considering that the Demiurge usually had a more powerful entity behind it in myth, there's a very high chance that he wasn't alone.
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>>160498855
Pretty much this.
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>>160499069
>switching and escaping
If you can't crit almost every turn your party comp is shit. Whether it's from weakness or chance you should be able to chain like 2 baton passes and a heal if you need it.
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I like Ohya.
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Nyx is very different from the other god beings in p3-p5. It's an actual alien, not a product of collective human consciousness.

>In the Persona 3 Club Book, in a Q&A section it is stated that Nyx is in fact a living being outside reality the size of a celestial body known as "the Star Eater", that drifted space in a dormant state. Eventually, this being collided with the Earth, and ended up entering Earth's orbit becoming its moon, but leaving its psyche on the surface. This "wave-like psyche" stood a contradiction to the already existing life on earth, which was still at a very primitive state. In order to resist this contradiction, the life forms in Earth had a period of evolution and developed a collective subconsciousness in which the life forms locked away the psyche of Nyx by suppressing its psyche with their own thoughts. Nyx's physical body entered a healing process after the colliding with the Earth from within Earth's moon. By the time Persona 3 takes place, that process was just about done. The Fall is the process in which Nyx's psyche re-enters its physical body, giving Nyx back its original form, meaning a paradox for life on earth, and thus the end of the world.
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>>160498899
>>160499069
So the polar opposite of Ohya.
Good to know.
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>>160499174
>with all the help in the world
But Izanami literally says that the entire world is against IT, they had jack shit for help as opposed to Joker who had Tokyo on his side
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>>160499261
This is because P1 already killed the original Nyx.
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>>160499174
P3 and P4 had the entire world against them, P3 especially.
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>>160499261
lol Tsukihime ripoff.
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>>160499281
>tokyo on his side
And also against him half the time. He earned that rep himself. Yu and Adachi were pet persona users of some Goddesses gay experiment. Yaldy was in it to win it and had an end goal other than being bored and curious
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>>160499178
All vr attendant are created at similar level. And we know enough from what Lavenza have told us. Yaldy invaded Beat them up and Igor used last of his strenght to create Morgana before he got imprisoned.
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>>160499319
We've already established that P3 fought the greatest threat of the nu-trilogy. I don't think anyone could argue that (and not look like a complete fucking idiot)
It's down to P4 v P5 for strongest MC/ Worst challenge.
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>>160497223
Are you purposefully trying to show yourself as a casual?
It's a world of STR out there friend.
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Got 2 DLC codes for the Shin Megami IF costumes.

Goro Akechi is the culprit. There, saved you 100 hours of "le adults are so bad" XD.
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>>160499366
Elizabeth is 100% more powerful than the others, considering that she's off fucking around and killing shit. She's also the most powerful boss in the franchise but that's "not canon".

My question is how Demiurge knew it existed and knew how to get there. It's really unclear, but considering how the entire plotline wasn't originally part of the story and the limitations when it comes to Igor's voice, it makes sense.
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>>160499363
all gods, demons, whatever other paranormal bullshit is happening in Persona universe is just an embodiment of humanity's ____. Izanami wasn't bored and curious, she was born out of wishes of people to do a certain thing.
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>>160499483
>le adults are so bad
they are right, tho.

t. shitty adult.
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>>160499483
Look, I agree P5 has a mediocre plot, but do you really think everyone here hasn't finished the game?
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>>160499483
Go ahead and post them then.

That's not even the real twist anyway.
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>>160499366
>all vr are equal
Source on that.
Further Liz isn't anymore. She's got the wildcard like Aigis meaning there's room to grow and a destiny to take. She was the only one who sacked up and left home. She's also the only one who still cares about Door after a few decades. SEES forget he existed basically and move on like people do. Aigis just fucks around and occasionally mopes about him. Liz has devoted eternity to figuring something out.
I don't know about how she was when she started (until you source me) but she is far above vr shit now.
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>>160497304
>>160497313
>>160497661
>>160497784
>>160498923
>>160499438
>tfw I used to be a MAG fag but awakened to the world of STR

Feels good man.
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>>160499497
In Q all 3 vr attendants are at the same power. Yes Q is canon. Plus no matter how much you wank she's not stronger than Igor
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Did anyone in P5 get as good of character development as Da Man?
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>>160499653
Goro Akechi
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>>160499646
MAGfag 4 lyfe!!
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>>160499534
Your point? Lets cut the fluff, they aren't born of anything, they're manifestations of the great unconscious' X. They are defined by that to a point but not nearly as much as you're saying. Morgana could be a petty depressed shit and he was meant to be hope for fuck sake. Ryuiji didn't want people to die.
You are to games what speed readers are to manga. Pull your head in.
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>>160498966
Because they don't know what they're missing
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>>160499653
No. After their respective Palace the game seems to forget about them as their own characters so they just tag along or do unimportant unrelated shit in their slinks.
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>>160499672
I unironically loved Goro. No corpse no death. I can't wait to see him in persona 5 DAN
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>>160499027
She realizes that it's bullshit. With your help, she overcomes it in the end.
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Ah, great, we'll finally know the protag's "official" name...
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>>160499653
Not even close, considering that P3 probably had the best character development in the series and Junpei stood above all of them.
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>>160499653
Futaba goes through the most drastic change. Now to say if that's "good".
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>>160499178
>there's a very high chance that he wasn't alone
>shits on Joker for being a bonds fag
Uh, I don't think he would have brought friends
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>>160499811
He's just Joker. It's a fine name. We have Door and Yu as well. Everyone is accounted for.
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>>160499811
Sasuga Hiiro!
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>>160499811
They should just give him a name right off the bat and let the pathetic self-inserters change it themselves.
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>>160498082
Both the english and original voices nailed this one line. Original was better by a country mile but I was surprised how well the english fit
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Don't mind me just posting this cute Fuuka
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Hopefully English VAs return to reprise their roles since they did such a great job.
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>>160499961
SUCK A MOE TOE
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How did you name your Joker?
I went with Tatsuya Shiba.
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needs more fluff
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>>160499953
The Fuukaposter has come!
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>>160500011
Just the best.
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>>160499857
That's the thing about the Demiurge and the whole reason he's different from YHVH; The Demiurge is convinced that no one gave him his power and that he's the supreme being, despite the fact that all of his power comes from the mother he is completely unaware of.
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>>160500011
Kaito Kuroba
Julius Kingsley in the second playthrough
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>>160500011
Like in the manga
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>>160500017
I want to eat Harus big bang burgers!
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Why is Makoto such a fucking autist?
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>>160499961
effin' hilarious
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>>160492482
in game is no one
every romance is fan fiction
Canon couples are Ryuji/Ann , Makoto/Yusuke and Futaba/Joker while Haru cries
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>>160499738
Morgana was the hope but the entire reason why he was created was to bring the Trickster to the depths of Mementos.
Meanwhile Izanami's role was to nuke the world if that's what humans want.
Morgana wasn't created to be upset about his lack of memories, it's basically the same as Izanami spending her time at a gas station to watch her pawns fight each other.
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>>160500099
>No one is canon but here are the canon couples
And Futaba belongs with Yusuke.
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Reminder that Ann is the canon love interest.
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>>160499961
Mobus, whoever played Ryuji, Mercer, and STUPID FAGGOT LITTLE COCKSUCKER can come back. I hope they recast everyone else, except for maybe the villains and Sojiro.
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>>160500099

>Makoto Yusuke

lolno. Ryugi/Ann, Joker/Makoto, Futaba/Inari, Haru and Morgana crying together
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>>160500011
I've always named all my SMT protags Kami. It seems fitting.
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>>160500046
I said don't mind me!
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>>160500099
>dumb opinion
>no punctuation
Non-canon =/= fanfiction even though fan-ficition =non-canon
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>>160500154
Ryujis canon love interest that is
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>>160500154
DELET
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>>160500099

It's Makoto/Sanic
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>>160500011
TAKASHI KIIDOOO
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>>160500017
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>>160500154
It's weird to see Joker's eyes through his glasses.
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>>160500180
Ryuji's canon love interest is his mom.
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>>160500078
He's not smt Demiurge though. He was created collective unconsciousness and he understands that much.
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>>160500216
>Not Makoto/Akechi with that pussy grab in Sae's palace
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>>160497223
Enjoy wasting all your SP faggot.
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>>160500261
*created by
Fuck
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>>160500099
>>160500154
>canon
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>yfw Futaba's Palace music

https://youtu.be/kn3eC0NThY0
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>>160500258
>mom/son incest
Yes, please.
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>>160500132
Exactly. She was an arbiter not a tool of destruction. Someone who watches and decides, who has the inclination to fuck around with her pawns. Nyx was beyond that shit by several magnitudes. She wasn't even in full nuke mode. She saw it getting to a tipping point and thought it would be fun to to do a chad v /r9k/ comp to see if humans could sort themselves out before she had to. Unlike Yally she wasn't working towards that conclusion. She was at worst neutral at best pro human. Yally actively fucked with Joker so that he would win easier. Different again
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>>160500180
Go to bed Ryuji.
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>>160500261
I'm not saying he's the SMT Demiurge. The whole thing about only thinking he's the most powerful entity is the Demiurge in mythos as well.

There's also a hole missing in his story; the Demiurge was created by the Metaverse, unlike Izanami, who morphed the unconsciousness into the Midnight Channel. So what created the Metaverse?
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>>160500143
>>160500163
Yusuke is for art.
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>>160500154
More like the first girl being pushed onto us.
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Will they show Makoto following Joker around school while pretending to read manga? Because that was some cute shit.
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>>160500438
I found it to be pretty annoying
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>>160500261
Again you're over hyping that. It's the source of their existence not the be all and end all of their existence.

>>160500365
That's sort of really sad
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>>160500365
Ryuji wasn't even presented as in love with Ann, unlike Kanji with Naoto. He's fine with anyone with a vagina.
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>>160497988
Interestingly enough, that seems like a perfect opportunity for Makoto to show off her CQC skills
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>>160500099
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>>160495503
Actually.
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>>160500365
Ryuji doesn't even care about Anne that way. If anything, Morgana is the cuck because he's really into her.
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>>160500456
Miserable fuck.
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>>160500547
Gross.
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>>160500547
I love these.
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>>160498844
>He was always Joker though? Don't tell me you played P5 in english
>not liking Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS announcer as Joker
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>>160500547
Is that a threesome with Morgana?
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>>160500547
>>160500216
Why the fuck does everyone ship Haru and Goro? They're a total crack ship that makes no sense, especially when Haru hates Goro for murdering her father.
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>>160500365
>>160500180
Lol Ryuji doesn't give a fuck bout that ho.
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>>160500389
It was explained. Metaverse was created by collective unconsciousness, Mementos was created by Yaldy and is a source of distortions in Metaverse
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>>160500652
I guess it's because she was so forgiving in his last moments
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>>160500547
Why white, brown would be more appropriate.

Or pink, because Goro is a little bitch.
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>>160500652
>especially when Haru hates Goro for murdering her father.
That's the joke.
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>>160500687
Forgot a pic
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>>160500652
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>>160500389
Metaverse is important. It changes shadows back to demon style things. Instead of the abstract faceless shit you see in 3 and 4.
>tfw nyarly and Phile revival for persona 6
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>>160500763
Hau should be the one pegging Akechi, really.
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>>160500652
It's just shipperfags being retarded and needing to pair everyone up.
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>>160500011
Kokorono kaito
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Why does everyone say Makoto is autistic?
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Can we expect a new wave of interest when the anime goes on air? I feel like P5 could use more doujins
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>>160500783
This.
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>>160500862
forced /pg/ memes
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>>160500438
I'm sure they will. I hope Joker teases her for it too
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>>160500547
First is fine. Second is pasable but off. Those are for friends not fucks. Thrid and Fourth are just awful.
>incompatible autists
>killer and bereaved
Fucking hell. Talk about pairing the spares
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>>160500763
Goro a cute
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>>160500586
Rude cunt
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>>160500918

Explain
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>>160500862
I've literally never heard anyone say that. That doesn't even make sense
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>>160500011
Hugh Mongus.
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>>160500687
The collective unconsciousness usually needs to be manipulated in some way to become an "other world".
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>>160500353
>thought the song was catchy
>check youtube and saw the name

Fuck man I didn't ask for these feels.
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I just hope the coverage of the final battle isn't ass like P4TA's.

Then again, P5's final battle is actually major to the entire game's storyline climax as opposed to P4 where it's really just something extra to do seeing you've pretty much done everything important storywise.
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>>160500980
Makoto is autistic
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>>160500973
>makotofags keep responding to obvious bait
>shitposters bully makotofags with shitty greentexts and roleplaying
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Eikichi > Junpei > Ryuji > Ulala > Yosuke > Mark
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>>160500862
beep boop. I'm already graduating but I don't know how relationships work. pls teach me
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>>160501044
>P5's final battle
It's basically unimportant as well. You could end it at Shido and be done with it, really
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>>160501044
>typical chaosfag shit
>important
Wew
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>>160500154
Facts.
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Getting back to the casts' power levels, taking into account physical strength, persona strength, weaponry, navigator, and experience which group would win in a fight between IT and PT? (Ignoring SEES because they easily outclass everyone else)
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>>160501088

That's such a stretch, holy shit.

>>160501080

Ah, I see. I was just confused because she honestly seems like the least autistic of the PTs, except for maybe Haru?
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>>160501088
Did you even pay attention? Her entire life was school, she never had a chance to be a teenager. That was what her confidant was initially about. It's inexperience you retard
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>>160500988
Metaverse is how "humanity as collective perceive reality". It's another side of real world
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>>160501221
I just answered his question because that's what other anons usually say. Dunno why you're getting so riled up.
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>>160501198
Ignoring Ultimates because there's really no way to measure the power of those, probably P5. Futaba's abilities are beyond special snowflake OC tier, Morgana provides transportation, and even though both teams are pretty fucking stupid PT is considerably smarter.
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>>160501044
P5's storyline climax is the fight against Shido, everything after that fels tacked on about as much as Izanami
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>>160501092
Whut? The whole narrative was building towards the depths and Yaldy.
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>>160501247
Where do people say this? They have to be baiting
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>>160500862

Because all it takes is a helmet/sonic edit to trigger Makotofags, which perpetuates the meme
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>>160501198
You're joking right? PT stomps here. Snd don't ignore SEES. PT are stronger than them too if you include all of their arsenal
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>>160501227
That's the collective unconsciousness, though. That's what Izanami shaped to become the TV world. Who shaped the Metaverse into becoming the Metaverse if Yaldaboth was born of it?

>>160501282
Horseshit. Remove Igor being an asshole and it's just as tacked on as P4. The narrative was building up to the Shido fight. Coincidentally, he's a much better final boss than the Demiurge ever could be.
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>>160501261
Morg doesn't provide shit. He's useless outside of metaverse from what we've seen. Let's say they're in neutral distortion. That means they can all use persona but that's it.
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>>160501300
Well at least they used to. Maybe it died down a little, I haven't been really visiting P5 threads lately. People used to talk about her like that when the game came out on /v/ and /pg/, a few anons on /a/ as well whenever there were P5 threads, but not as much as on the other places I mentioned.
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>>160501198
Yuu would take a shit on EVERYONE there and then fuck every girl present, desu. That cunt is broken.
Without Yu and Joker. Makoto leads PT to an easy win.
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>>160501313
SEES has two wild cards, Fusion Spells, much more knowledge of the collective unconsciousness, and the Universe card. They're far above the IT or PT.
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>>160501344
>Morg doesn't provide shit.
HIGH
CRITS
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>>160501300
>>160501366
I'm also guessing it's probably because Makotofags just took over the threads at the time. Everyone was praising her and stuff. Anons got tired of it so they started posting memes and shit.
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>>160501313
>pt are stronger than SEES
>no gunz because no meta shit
>no cheats because no meta shit
>just persona against persona
>can't even invoke persona in the real world
JEJ
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>>160501398
>SEES has two wild cards
not at once. The second Wild Card got her powers from the first one.
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>>160501366
Seems like a strange thing desu when there's two party who could actually be autistic. Shit I romanced Futaba and even I think she has the tism at times
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>>160501313
>PT stronger than SEES
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>>160501227
MV was a particular manifestation of CU just like midnight channel.
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>>160501439
Not at once, but they're both still Wild Cards and if you undo the seal then Aigis isn't going to suddenly lose her power.
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>>160501341
Collective unconsciousness create "demons" without anyone's help. Nowhere was stated that it can't create something like metaverse
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>>160501445
Like I've mentioned here >>160501408 It's probably because people got sick of Makotofags. She also won most, if not all, of the popularity polls we've had as well.
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>>160501426
>Literally said if they got full arsenal
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Wheres the love for haru, she is best girl
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>>160501341
Shido was always half the picture. He was the evil that the public enabled. The whole game was talking about how Japan kept jumping from one "savior" to the next and at large have become complete apathetic to making decisions for themselves, and chose instead to just follow the system. It's the same thing P3 was on about that people are willingly closing their eyes to reality.
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>>160500700
Source on that page lad
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>>160501526
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>>160501532
Yes, and they chose Shido. There was no need to the Demiurge to be there. He's just another savior.
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>>160501313
I was just thinking about the logistics of another P4A-type situation. Considering that the PT don't have a real brute like Shinji or Kanji, they would probably lose in terms of some physical matches, but now that I'm thinking about it, the Phantom Thieves sheer amount of tech is pretty insane.
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>>160501483
Sounds like I wasn't missing anything by avoiding /v/
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>>160501401
I mained morg, don't get me wrong. Those people who shit on him in that sense are high. Heals/crits are God.
Team comp:
Morg Makoto [haru/yusuke/Riyuji]
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>>160501577
And if you remove Shido, it changes nothing, as the game spent the entirety of that last part beating it into you.
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>>160501604
His heals cost way too much SP, and his health is shit. Crits are pointless against bosses, and you can just use the special Gun attack if you want a knockdown.

He's just not that useful once you get Makoto.
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Hot springs when?
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>>160501582
You said with all their powers. PT have superhuman stats, firearms and experiance fighting stronger "shadows"
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>>160501686
>Dissing the male bonding in P5
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>>160501523
That is their full arsenal, fuck wit. Metaverse is gone. They have all the toy guns they collected. Nothing has changed. Besides, aigis is a literal fucking murder machine she matches and exceeds almost all the PT in fire power.
SEES can get real weapons from dirty cops and often do.
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>>160501699
>Superhuman stats
This shit again? SEES and IT have the same abilities. From Chie's bullshit super kicks to everyone surviving 100 shells from a fully automatic machine gun.
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Guys, what should i do, lavenza gets me rock hard? im not a criminal
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>>160501577
To add on, Demiurge is not the savior, he represents the public's distortion of apathy and unhealthy reliance on figures like the PT or Shido. When the whole game wants to tell you that this should not be the case.
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all girls a best
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>>160501439
>>160501479
Yes at once. Liz would help SEES if asked or if she thought it would be fun or informative to stomp PT which gives them a wild/VR att and a wild/killer robo
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>>160501699
Canonically, SEES also gains superhuman stats within the Dark Hour as well. And despite the rest of SEES not being armed with real guns (though they could), Aigis herself carries more than PT combined. Experience fighting "stronger shadows" is a pointless comparison, since there's no direct comparison between the Arcana Shadows and the distorted Shadow Selves.
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>>160501778
Show me that during story segment and not gameplay. Shinji totaly could brush off bullet from revolver Jesus, right?
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>>160493411
>Tae 7th
At least some people have taste.
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>>160493377
They made the MC in P4 decently funny in the animation, so I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that
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>>160501846
I'm behind you senpai.
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>>160501871
Shinji obviously wasn't using his powers at the time because he was planning to let Ken kill him.
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>>160501198
>(Ignoring SEES because they easily outclass everyone else)
Why do people suck SEES's dick so hard?
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>>160501699
>have super human stats
So do all persona users. PT just had meta hacks as well, which don't fucking count outside meta verse AND IT would get if they visited meta verse too.
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>>160501871
when in the story segment PTs display any "superhuman stats"?
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>>160501909
Even P3 had his own funny moments in the movies, brought about by his apathetic autism. Just too few since movie pacing has to rush through key events and didn't have time to spend on slice of life scenes.
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>>160501946
Because their leader is basically Jesus Christ
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>>160501946
Your first day at /a/?
Edgefags sucks the cocks of edgy characters and shows despite never spending dime on them.

Which is why they shill and praise them but many of their favorite shows flunked.
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>>160501922
But he wanted to protect ken so why didn't he "turn them on" when Jesus shows up? Also why Arihiko in Arena said that he needs to predict bullet trajectory and dodge it just before enemy shoot?
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>>160501946
because they come from such a dark, deep and mature game, they're obviously the best
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>>160501871
>dumb drug addicted non-natural persona user who was already dying
>getting fucked because he can hardly use his persona let alone invoke it immediately while outside of the the dark hour
>when he wanted to die in penance and had already accepted it
Is this nigger serious?
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>>160501946
Mainly because they have the resources, training, and knowledge of a mega-corporation dedicated to fucking up shadows. IT and PT are rag-tag groups with imitation weapons that get by because of magic
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>>160502060
Because he needs to use his Evoker to use his Persona? P3 weren't traditionally awakened, they used a loop hole in the form of Evokers.

And Akihiko can dodge bullets, but other times he's actually shot. Regardless, wouldn't you call dodging fucking bullets "superhuman"?
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>>160501969
When haven't they? They do super jumps all the time
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>>160502060
Aki went full autismo after Shinji died and never recovered
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>>160501835

But if relying on the PT is bad, why was everyone cheering them on in the climax?
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>>160501904
Yeah, that's why Tae isn't any higher.

>>160501946
They are, in terms of feats, experience and resources ahead.
>killer robots
>can invoke persona in the real world
>have been doing it for decades
>fought the biggest threat in the series sans Nyarly
Gee I fucking wonder
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>>160502201
Because this is a poorly written story. Remember how the PT are all about making their own decisions and breaking society's rules, but they also go around forcing people to abide by the law using magic?
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>>160502201
Because in the end, the public never change.
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>>160494111
If you keep him and use skill cards and lockdown you can easily get one of the best personas in the game. His high level skills are on par with most of the higher level personas
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what did she mean
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>>160502301
The thing is, provided they're not weak to Gun, the only thing preventing Personae from being broken are their inability to get Hassou Tobi.
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>>160501904
That has to be a pre release poll there is no way Tae, or any non party members, would be above any of the PTs now.
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>>160502201
Because humanity sucks, otherwise there wouldn't be a sequel. They're too lazy and scared to be free but to dignified to be slaves. It's the eternal war within oneself to be more than you are. This is kind of the theme of the entire series faggo
Do you skip the VR contract exposition every game?
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>>160502156
And yet they still need to purchase their own equipment, and can't even use anything too normal like guns or other things that would be more useful than a fucking sword or bow.
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>>160502251
>fought the biggest threat in the series sans Nyarly
Erebus and Ryoji were weak shits. Actual Nyx beat them with it's farts literally.
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>>160492482
I would like Ann to win but there's no way any girl is going to.
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>>160502368
Why wouldn't they? Tae is, at the very least, not a reused archetype like most of the PT are.
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>>160502395
That's because misturu was autistic and going through a, I'll do it myself fuck you dad, period. After the events of 3 they're decked out.
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>>160494111
>Having two natural weaknesses, and no natural nulls, sucks.

Same with Orpheus, wasn't it? Although he managed to stick around for a while, solely because of how amazing Cadenza was early game.
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>>160502156
You say that but SEES are absolutely the most incompetent out of all three groups
>the guy who was in charge of the "club" turned out to be batshit crazy scientist that worked for Kirijo back when they were looking into shady shit, which Mitsuru and her father overlooked
>Ikutsuki tricked SEES into killing full moon shadows to trigger The Fall, despite having a full access to all sort of research and basically anything they'd ever need SEES fell for everything he said
>lost two group members, one due to their own neglegice another as a way to fix what was mentioned above
>despite being funded by a megacorporation they have to buy their own equipment from some random policeman, with their own money
Honestly that only makes SEES look like idiots
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>>160502395
I'd much rather have a sword or bow than a knife or a whip.
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>>160502368
She's just above them by like 2 votes, it's peanuts.
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>>160502417
Yeah and tokyo won the final battle in p5. The only semi legit win was Mary-Yu with some mid-tier shitter God

>>160502493
>when the IT and SEES would find the PT to be really chunni
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>>160502523
I'd like to see a reimagining of what costumes SEES and IT would have if they entered the Metaverse.
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>>160502487
>Implying that's any better than Naoto "Wat is Camera" Shirogane or literally anything Ryuji has ever done in his entire existence.
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>>160502162
>Regardless, wouldn't you call dodging fucking bullets "superhuman"?
He's dodging them before bullet is fired. Pretty standard trick for trained people in anime world
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>>160502355

>dat thousand yards stare

Hopefuly our Lord and Savior Brojiro will unbreak the cutie from the commotion. And save Joker's ass in the process.
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Can't wait for best OTP to become canon.
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>>160502594
>pretty standard trick for trained people in anime world
So is copping a bullet and walking it off sperg master. So what is it? Anime world or actual persona canon and settings?
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>>160502201
Because what else could they actually do? That was the only time that the public unanimously actually gave genuine support for a single act, however selfish the reason was.

The whole post final battle basically went on where no one actually knows whether the public changed or not because humanity sucks, but even so, people can still make a change by themselves without magic hocus pocus.
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>>160502608
Never going to happen, dumb Makotofag.
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>>160502523
They at least fought Yaldy head on and keep getting up from the beating. Plus while Joker finished him of with spirit bomb, Satanael was stronger than Yaldy
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>>160502594
People are firing fucking machine guns at him
That's superhuman shit. He's also supposed to be physically stronger than Chie, who can jump out of a two story window without and injuries and keep running
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>>160502579
Naoto's forgetting about setting up camers didn't almost cause the end of the world, in fact it allowed them to eventually get to Adachi
Ryujii yelling about being a PHANTOM THIEF is ultimately harmless. Plus he saved everyone's asses during the ruse cruise
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>>160495694
I agree, how could you romance her while romancing everyone else, that is a crime. Poor futaba
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>>160502201
It represents all the people rejecting Demiurge's status quo.
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>>160502711
They got up after Tokyo helped them up and fueled big boy Satanael
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>>160502487
>oh no SEES tried to stop calamity
He says as PT literally just mind raped people for (you)s and it ended up almost dooming humanity
He says as IT wanted to play scooby doo but never did anything other than flirt and fuck around in the t.v
Lyl
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>>160502722
Naoto forgetting to set up cameras is literally one of the stupidest things in this entire franchise.

Let's not forget the PT straight up entering the Metaverse in a crowd of random people despite it being prior established that people too close would be pulled in. Then, Groo found them.
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>>160496593
sauce?
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>>160502781
Just morale support doesn't change that they could take a beating. And Satanael wasn't fueled in any way. Those golden orbs of "hope" show up after summoning. Satanael was literally Arsene without limiter
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/our guy/ Igor here to set things straight.
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>>160502711
They literally got dropped and tokyo ressed them and ALLOWED them to struggle until they won the fight for them. Everything past the reality bend was tokyo holding the PT's hand.
Fact
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>>160502608
I want it to happen just for the rage
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>>160502909
>just morale support
>literally made them tangible and conscious again
Are p5fags slated to be the new p4fags or are you a special case
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>>160502571
Soon, if the rumors are to be believed, we'll get metaverse redesigns for the past teams in the spinoffs.
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>>160502909
What is the meme that Satanael wasn't fueled explicitly by Tokyo, because he was. Every Persona MC has a "limiter", and Tokyo removed that limiter. Without Mishima, they would never have had Satanael.

Sinful Shell itself was created from the Seven Sins that the Demiurge fired upon them.
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>>160502980
>Most popular girl wins
>Rage
>?
If you want real asspain then give the Joker to Ohya.
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>>160502909
This guy has it right >>160502983
The game even keeps saying that cognition is everything. The people literally willed the PTs into winning the fight.
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>>160502923
Who was this said to
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>>160493411
nice source
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>>160502834
Yaldy was planning to fuck up humanity from the beginning, which is why he even gave Goro his powers two years earlier
IT did exactly what they planned to do and stopped an apocalypse on their way
SEES and even later Shadow Ops only ruin everything
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>>160503035
>Not Joker to Morgana
Not one person to would be happy
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>>160503052
MC.
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>>160503023
Satanael is 100% joker power. No world arcana bullshit. He used power of humanity only to create Sinful Shell. You literally see a moment he absorbs it
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>>160503075
a) SEES deals with way larger threats.
b) Yaldy might have done that but PT still fuelled him and fucked everything up. Goro didn't do all that. They did. They immediately became the spine of his operation and their motivation was literally just (you)s and 'fuck you dad' angst.

At least Scoob and friends saved bitches and whores without raping their heads in
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Did they fnally re-enable screenshots or where do you get them?
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>>160503035
Just because she's most popular doesn't mean the majority of fans like her. Even at the most popular she's 30-40% in polls that mean 60-70% of people are going to be pissed.
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>>160503146
>all these implications
They were powered by tokyo the SECOND they rematerialised. It just increased at times and they put all their faith in a hail mary bullet. You must be kidding.
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>>160503146
>using an Igor line as evidence
>when literally all Igor dialogue was reused from previous games because of the voice actors death

Disregarding that error, you're completely false. If it was just Joker's power, he would've summoned it before. He was powered up by Tokyo.
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>>160503220
capture cards
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>>160503146
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>>160503264
We have a winner. He was running on tokyo juice the moment he got back. If they have him use sata in the spin offs then we can talk- but they won't because tokyo won't be around for the spin-offs
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>>160503187
>PT still fueled him and fucked everything up
Yaldy didn't need them. He just used them as toys in a game rigged against them.
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>>160503342
They'll use Satanael for spin offs but it won't be as powerful or as accessible. Think Izanagi-no-Okami, who Yu only summoned at certain times, like after his sick dance moves fueled The World card.
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>>160503264
They even visualized "power of people" for the morons like you and you still don't get it. He break chains of Arsene it was completely different from Izanagi boost with world card
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>>160503385
PT made Yaldaboth considerably more powerful by putting a shit ton of people in "prison".
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>>160503385
>he didn't need them
>except that they subjugated the most individualistic people who wouldn't submit to him
>even subjugated randos in the tokyo underground
Sure man. PT did nothing at all.
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>>160503187
we moved so far from the goal it's not even funny
The entire point of the discussion was that despite SEES being backed by a megacorporation that is specifically dedicated to exterminating shadows, they were absolutely incompetent and made no use of their resources.
Other groups sure made mistakes, they had basically nothing to support themselves on, but SEES had access to literally everything and fucked up more and had bigger losses than the other two "rag-tag teams" that had nothing whatsoever.
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>>160503075
>SEES defeat Death.
>Shadow Ops get their asses handd to them by some angry Shinto god and his memer henchman.
JUST
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>>160503438
>Tokyo's hopes and the PT's strength were given to Joker in order to summon Satanael
There are no "chains". Just like Izanagi-no-okami, which is fueled by dance and other such thing, Satanael was able to be summoned by empowering Joker with Tokyo.

Why would you ever post a screenshot that proves you wrong?
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>>160503329
Yeah he got it after the fight.
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>>160503489
>corporate-backed personnel to losing rag-tag team of nobodies.

Just like real life then.
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>>160503535
They don't have their wild card, and Aigis a shit!
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>>160503535
Door truly was the only thing that made the team worth their while.
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>>160503571
>There are no "chains".
Nice to see you haven't play the game
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>>160503577
Amazon need to up their game if they want to grab the digital market pie in the rest of the world.
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>>160503535
truly the most powerful group of Persona users around
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>>160503489
SEES wasn't really backed at all in P3. Agis came to them out of shear luck, Aki knows cops and so on. Kijiro is basically uninvolved.
>kijiro circa P3
>dedicated to killing shadows
They were a mega corp that some slack cunt was trying to use to fix his dads issue but he wasn't too good or into it. Mitsuru made it a shadow hunting thing when she got involved properly.
And again, SEES had bigger stakes than the other two teams. It had almost as many disadvantages as PT given they needed evokers unlike PT and IT but they managed to be more powerfuland effective anyway. They were also sabotaged from the inside which no other group was. Yaldy fucked Joker around a bit but never affected the team. That was their own retardation. Also they were fighting other persona users which the other teams did not. They have goro and adachi who appeared adversarial once or twice but mostly schemed instead of actually opposing them.
Get fucked.
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>>160503648
>What is a visual metaphor
There is no power limiter on Joker that he "broke". He summoned Satanael with Tokyo's power, and the last screenshot you posted literally says that.
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>>160503535
Wild Cards carry the team so hard and Aigis is autistic. If they hadn't all immediately forgotten about Door after The Answer Liz might have been their wild but they don't deserve her if they're gonna forget about Door
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>>160503697
>"my job here is done"
>"but you didn't do anything"
>
>>
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>>160503739
last screenshot you posted literally says that.
It's already after summoning you dolt. Golden orbs of light=humanity power and they start show up after Joker summon Satanael. then he absorbs them to create Sinful Shell. The End
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>>160501733
This the only way to play persona is to.romance every girl possible and then blow them all off to hang with the bros.
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>>160503697
We're talking about SEES not Shadow Ops.
Shadow Ops JUSTED themselves up real good. Just look at our dude.
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>>160503861
I see you've just revealed that you weren't paying attention to the game. Sinful Shell's description says that it's fueled by the Sins launched on Joker and the rest of the PT.

Joker and the PT get the shit kicked out of them. Tokyo notices and saves their ass. Joker then uses the power given to him by Tokyo to summon Satanael, who then takes the Sins fired at them to use Sinful Shell. The end.
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>>160503709
You forget that PT had to deal with a government conspiracy against them, constantly having to watch the police action, and a mole which they were smart enough to reverse-ruse.
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>>160503792
Simply the best, just the best.
>liz isn't even with them
>when the only competent persona user you know thinks you're all dorks
I'm still waiting for my Liz Aigis buddy cop game where they wait for the world to end and retrieve Door.
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>>160503963
>Not a Liz Devil May Cry game
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>>160503709
>Kijiro is basically uninvolved.
Mitsuru is the fucking heiress to the entire corporation, how is that "basically uninvolved"?
>but they managed to be more powerfuland effective anyway.
effective in what? Fuckign themselves over? It was their fault The Fall was triggered.
>They were also sabotaged from the inside
also their own fault, because Mitsuru didn't care enough to check who is she working with
> Also they were fighting other persona users which the other teams did not.
Streaga were a bunch of hobos with arificial personas that needed pills to even stay alive, that's hardly a threat
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>>160503697
>Mitsuru, Aigis and Akihiko at the same time cannot defeat Sho.
I love this dumb donut.
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>>160503961
>goro
>no one trusts or likes
>around for a short as fuck time
Oh no. What a mole.
>had to worry about the gov
It rarely came up given the gov couldn't handle super natural shit or deal with the hikikomori SUPA HACKA living down the road.
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>>160504020
Fuuka is there too,
I know it's hard to remember she exists
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>>160504020
So much for the Nyx Nutters.
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>>160504020
Yuuya only loses to muh bonds. We all know going bondless gives you a massive power boost. It took the PT to beat Goro and it took the IT to beat Adachi
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>>160503943
>Joker then uses the power given to him by Tokyo to summon Satanael
Dude those lights is the "power of Tokyo". They shows up after summoning, read it as they weren't present during summoning. He absorb and use it just before you get to fire Sinful Shell
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>>160504034
>govt couldn't handle shit
>literally set everything up from medjed to the casino trap
The only reason the PT managed to get out of it safely was because they were observant enough to ruse Goro. The stakes were massively set against PT.
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>>160504199
Sinful shell is the sins fired you double nigger. The game states as such. In that case tokyo never helped at all despite yally writing them out of existence 5 minutes ago?
Fucking retard.
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>>160504199
Explain this to me. If Joker could summon Satanael at any time, why didn't he? It's because he couldn't until Tokyo backed him up. Simple as that.
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>>160504199
>lets the thread die rather than answering
>>160504276
Sasuga
>>
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>Makoto is so dumb that if you don't finish Kamoshida's palace in time she becomes a crackhead sex slave

Who's your best girl now, faggots?
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Since this thread is nearing its end, can we agree that SEES wins on paper, PT wins with enough support and prep time, and IT gets the job done with the least amount of fuck-ups?
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>>160504274
So what was the piont of absorbing power of tokyo if not for creating god killing ammo?
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>>160504514
no.
>>
you cunts are forgetting one thing. If gods are powered by humanity's wishes, turning humans against the god makes it weaker due to losing believers.
Even if Yaldy started out powerful, Tokyo cheering on Joker should've made him weaker than he was before.

Good bye thread.
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>>160504527
>if I say these visual do this without evidence then they must
Sin shell is the sins thrown. Argue with the game not me, faggot

>>160504514
Sort of. Also there's a second thread tht was up before this one >>160490077
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>>160504617
>no argument
Ok
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