How could anybody like this character? I'm in the process

>>160486174
Watch more than 13 anime before you post on this board

dont talk about my waifu like that

>>160486386
But he is right.

oh fucking no you didn't

>>160486174
You need at least 100 anime under your belt, watch past episode 2, and be over 18 to post on /a/ and have an opinion about Toradora.

OP is right. I watched the entire series and still disliked her. Ami best girl.

>>160486174
Not sure if bait or genuine retarded Amifag shipper.

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>>160486174
If Taiga is a bitch 100% of the time then so is Ami. Look, I can exaggerate and oversimplify too.

Ami is nowhere near as popular and loved as Taiga. It sucks for you, OP.

mango taiga > animu taiga

I don't really recall how novel taiga is

>Has watched less than 1000, 500, hell, less than 100 shows
>Hasn't even finished this one
sage and move on

>>160486174
>I'm in the process of watching Toradora
>Watching Toradora only now
You new to anime and /a/, OP?

>>160486174
Are you sure you're over the age of 18? You know, an adult with the ability to have patience, be understanding, sympathize, empathize, and don't see everything as black and white?

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>>160486174
You just don't understand.

>>160486174

Now these newfags are complaining about tsunderes? Geez, i never thought missing out on anime eras, in this case the tsundere era of late 00s, can create a new generation of assholes. They dont even try to understand.

Where did OP go? People are asking him questions but he hasn't replied to any of them yet.

>>160486973

>makes a comparison but didnt even bother with the original medium.

Not this again.

>She's an aggressive bitch 100% of the time and obviously has some serious mental disorders

its called being abandoned by your family you heartless idiot.

>>160487155
The newfags are tsunderefags like you. Most of us were sick and tired of them by 2003.

>>160486174
I think we all know that Taiga ruined Toradora.

>>160487190
/a/ scared him away. Good job, guys.

>>160487440
>us
Speak for yourself, newfag.

Not OP but disliked Taiga myself, I still believe she only won through the major guilt tripping during the Christmas ep that forced Minori to drop out of the Ryuuji-bowl

Ami worse than Taiga, the tsundere might be aggressive but at least she isn't manipulative.

>>160487440
That's like saying it's possible to get sick of moe, lolis, ZR designs, etc. Get the fuck out of here, faker.

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>>160487440
>2003
>a time before /a/ was hit by various storms that took this place, among them being the concept and understanding of tsundere
inb4 you realize you messed up.

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>Almost 10 years later and the Taiga defence squad is still alive and kicking

Holy shit, fucking off yourselves along with that shit taste of yours already.

>>160486174
You just discovered that most people have shit taste. Good job OP.

>>160487506
Moe, lolis and ZR don't revolve around being a horrid cunt who always gets their way through the power of cliches and bad writing.

>>160487560
10 years later and Amifags are still salty.

>>160487155
Tsunderes can be fine, but aggressive violent tsundere are shit. even moreso if they are subject to a relationship reset every 2minutes.
Taiga is bad but nowhere near Louise levels of shit.

>>160487440
>>160487587
>>160487593
t.THK

>>160487559
You mean newfaggotry storms? Tsunderes being shit has been common knowledge since before /a/ was even made.

>>160487593
>Taiga
>Not one of the best tsundere ever
Opinion discarded.

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>>160487593
Louise put me off tsunderes for a very long time.
Why didn't she just dispose of baka meido if she was such a problem, instead of taking it out on him?

>>160487613
As if it weren't already obvious we're dealing with the usual deluded tsunderefag.

>>160487587
>who always get their way
You sound mad and like a hater. What happened in real life that made you so angry you take it out on fictional love interest tsundere characters?

>>160486174
Knowing the family issues she has that made her the way she is, and that she makes an effort to resolve things, helps. Sure she'd be a difficult person to actually know, but she's a pretty good character.

>>160487702
>we are dealing with the usual deluded THK
Confirmed.

>>160487740
>u-u mad!
>"hater"
Oh. It's you.

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>>160487642
You're contradicting yourself and make it clear you don't even know what you're talking about in regards to being a newfag on /a/. Nice job.

this board is garbage

>>160487740
Maybe he was abused by his parents and grew up surrounded by assholes. Projecting can't be helped.

>>160487832
Literally no contradictions in what I said. You claimed people only hate tsunderes if they started watching anime after the late 00s, while I pointed out the obvious fact that people saw them as obnoxious long before that.

>>160487879
It's almost as if you're admitting Taiga is an abusive asshole. No wonder people hate her.

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>I don't like Taiga because she has some mental disorder
At least she isn't Minori. Bitch is fucking nuts, threw her best friend across a classroom. Always putting on a genki act, and it's obvious it's an act. Because she's a shitty person deep down that hates herself.
Hocchan>>Rie though

>>160488231
Minorin is best girl, though. Better to have a girl with issues deep down that can be avoided than one who's a violent nuisance more often than not.

>>160488012
Did you watch the show or read the novels at all? Taiga at the most/worst may act combative and standoffish to those when she feels nervous and insecure. And physically hostile when threatened, like a palmtop tiger as the theme suggests. On the other end, like an angel to those she trusts and feel safe around.

Most of the issues that makes her behave the former fade by before mid-story. Then she gradually transitions towards angel instead of resorting to acting like a tiger when faced with things that would set off her trust issues.

>>160488392
>physically hostile
In other words, shit.

>>160488231
It's funny because Minor is the one with mental problems, that is, a retard.

>>160488441
No, not at all. Do you have a different and better argument?

>>160487740
The autist THK aka Tsunhater-kun has immeasurable pent up rage and mad (ex: saying ridiculous and delusional things like >>160487440 >>160487587 >>160487642) that's been going on for 6 years whenever he sees tsundere, especially the ones that hit the person they like even if there's a reason. No one can figure why, but it's pretty obvious he suffers from a mental disorder of some kind that triggers him to dedicated spamming /a/ ad nauseam.

>>160486861
>there are 100 animes worth watching

Ami - Kind of a bitch, but should at least be able to function and possibly even flourish in society.
Taiga - Got some issues to work through but not beyond full rehabilitation.
Minori - Legitimatey unbalanced, probably latent psychotic.

>>160488231
I still can't remember what her actual mental issues were. We know she was putting on an act but what was behind it?

Still think she would have won if Taiga hadn't laid on the guilt-trip

>>160488504
>n-no u!
Nice rebuttal.

>>160488512
Why are you samefagging so hard? There is no bogeyman here, just a majority opinion.

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>>160486678
sexual attraction to a cartoon character comes from depraved oxytocin. Males who consistently masturbate at their computer have the bonding hormones attached to their computers and whatever idea of a character they're fapping too.

It's too late to reverse this process, your brain will not find normal sex or relationships satisfying, because your perceptions are warped. People who talk shit about my waifu get the bullet, though

>>160488674
>THK is this mad and delusional
As always.

>>160488549
>animes

>>160486174
You disgust me, OP. Newfags these dats can't into the greatest live story ever told, much less tsuntsun, deredere.

>>160488728
Nice stock shitpost.

>>160488751
yes the plural of anime

>>160488674
>n-no u!
Am I dealing with an ironic troll here? If you don't want to argue or simply can't then just say so.

Tsundere is possibly the shittiest archetype there is. I'm surprised how it gained popularity few years back and extremely relieved that awful era passed.

>>160488926
You're the one who went "no u". Abuse is a legitimate dealbreaker for most people, get over yourself.

>>160489006
>few years back
>passed
Your shit aside, just what alternative universe do you live in?

ITT: The TIDF proves it is just as vibrant with its rampant faggotry as it was when this train wreck was running.
Seriously, fuck all of you fags, God damn.

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A reminder that the best Tsundere is male

>>160486861
>and be over 18
Right, now get the fuck out, kiddo.

>>160489144
He was more entertaining as a shy little buttboy for Yukito.

>>160489122
I said no, not at all to your cherrypicked retort. That means disagreement. Instead of cherrypicking, you should have addressed the whole argument hence the other response. Seriously, you're not even trying. And if it is a dealbreaker for most as you claimed, then Taiga shouldn't be a lot more popular than the other two girls. You're full of it.

>>160489139
The one where not every main girl is violent retard with some red color thrown in the design.

>>160487968
I wasn't >>160487155, but he didn't say anything wrong. You obviously got offended because what he said is true. OP is a good example.

You sprout off some nonsense about by the time of 2003, implying /a/ somehow were sick and tired of them. That's not possible since /a/ didn't exist before. And still unbelievable is any time before late 00's since most of old /a/ was hooked on tsundere, among many other gateway-like concepts and fetishes popularized by Nanoha, Haruhi, Lucky Star, F/SN, Rozen Maiden, Shana, TTGL, Code Geass, etc. Then you backpedaled by correcting what you meant to before /a/, so you are only speaking for yourself. Between OP who's a newfag and you who shares the same mentality and inability to understand, there is no difference. I'll let that sink in.

>>160489227
Taiga is so obnoxious yet obviously the main girl that most people won't watch Toradora in the first place unless they like her, regardless of how appealing they find the other girls to be.

>>160489006
You're on drugs. Tsundere is generally the best archetype that can be done for any gender, body type, and design. It's peerless when done right and has been popular for over 20 years. It has far surpassed trends and bubbles and phases. Instead, it has literally become a part of the industry's culture and it won't go away

>>160488549
>animes

>>160489315
None of those shows were out in 2003, newfag. Do you think anyone but 14 year old self-inserting girls defended violent tsunderes like Kagome back then?

>>160489415
You don't even know the general opinion of the fanbase. Most people found Minori obnoxious, not Taiga. The most favorite pairing is Taiga and Ryuuji uncontested as well. Taiga started with flaws that may appeal to some people and be criticized for others, but fact of the matter is she's a good character and development turned her into a lovable girl no matter how you feel about a single that you dislike.

>>160489449
>when done right
Far, far too rare. It's only "popular" because authors find them easy to write and since the readers aren't ever given other options.

>>160489519
Reading comprehension. I didn't say those shows were out by 2003. At least you aren't denying the contradiction and backpedal that you did now. I won't even bother with that shoddy non-sequitur answer in a question comeback.

I hate the character but more than anything else I hate the fucking garbage voice actress and her annoying fucking voice

>>160489449
>Tsundere will still exist by the time THK finally dies from aneurysm 20 years later as a cumulative result of unfathomable autistic hatred
Thank you, Japan.

All you taiga fags got ntr'd by the male mc

>>160489545
Wrong. Most people loved Minori and hated Taiga at first, until everyone but the Taigafags dropped the show in the second half as it devolved into forced drama and Taigafag pandering.

>>160489652
They are basically the SFW version of the mindbreak fetish, which is why they're popular. What's better than having this annoying cunt that apparently hates you submit to your co- good traits.

>>160489652
Works are only popular if people like them. You can't just create something using popular elements and expect it to be popular automatically. That's not how it works. And nah, there are plenty of good ones. But since you dislike even a good one like Taiga then the problem is on your side.

>>160487155
I didn't miss on that era, I just don't have shit taste.

>>160489690
Still no contradiction or backpedal on my side. Nice to see there are tsunderes even you won't defend, by the way.

>>160489856
You are so delusional and will say anything to rationalize an entire fandom to suit your own narrative. Amusing you further is pointless.

>>160486174
why don't you finish the series before complaining about it?

>>160489938
Oh, so you are going to deny it.
>You sprout off some nonsense about by the time of 2003, implying /a/ somehow were sick and tired of them.
>Then you backpedaled by correcting what you meant to before /a/, so you are only speaking for yourself. Between OP who's a newfag and you who shares the same mentality and inability to understand, there is no difference.
Logic is against you.

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>>160489144

>>160489178
>Yukito
>Being on top
Pick one

>>160489856
Bullshit. Minori was always overshadowed and that was reflected by the overshadowed minority that liked her. You would have been more believable if you used Ami instead.

>>160489999
nice quads

>>160489999
OP is a newfag.

>>160489909
People like anime. People like harems. However, authors keep pumping out shitty tsundere mains for them ever since Love Hina.

Now, people can either support the genre in spite of the insufferable main girl, making the author falsely believe tsundere is appreciated, or they can swear off the genre entirely, leaving behind only the few Stockholm syndrome tsunderefags and making the percentage of tsunderefags look even greater.

The issue is simply that publishers aren't doing enough to force authors to be innovative. Tsundere is the same kind of cancer as isekai.

>>160486386
>>160486861
This.

>>160490115
>reddit spacing

>>160490143
>implying all paragraphs are reddit spacing

She was just created because of Japan's obsession with loli characters voiced by Rie Kugimiya. Totally unmemorable and would of been a greater anime if she didn't exist.

>>160490206

Anime fails to exist without her

>>160490143
>my argument is invalid so I'll attack his formatting

>>160490228
It's a good trade-off

>>160490115
>It's shit because I don't like it so everyone has to feel the same way!
>It's not popular! People are only forced to support something they don't like to make it popular!
This is the kind of logic and rationalization THK believes in. Why can't you just die already?

>>160490008
The anime fanbase as a whole was sick of them, including those who were at /a/ since the beginning. Tsunderefaggotry only really became a thing around 04-05 due to newfags watching stuff like SnS and thinking it was innovative in any way whatsoever.

>>160489999
I should be able to eat a whole plate of shit before I complain about the taste, no? Fuck off.

>>160490206
The show is nothing without Taiga. It's still remembered and one of the most gateway anime mainly because of her.

>>160490323
Taiga literally turns people off the show with her lolicon-pandering design and constant irrational tantrums.

>>160490323
It's unfortunate that it created a lot of fans like (You).

>>160490385

Those are anime newfag problems. Who gives a shit?

>>160490277
>everyone who points out that violent cunts are shit no matter how much history revisionism I attempt has to be the same person!
Tsunderefag logic, everyone.

>>160487593
>Tsunderes can be fine, but aggressive violent tsundere are shit.
There was a time when I'd agree with you. After I read that fanfic about GARcher being summoned by Louse, I think you just have to know how to cook them.

>>160490417
No, only newfags think tsunderie is amusing and not painfully tired cancer.

>>160490468

Newfags don't have problems with "lolicon-pandering"

Literally normie problems who think anime is misogynistic and problematic

>>160490115
Anime is a medium and harem is a genre. Tsundere is neither, but is simply a popular archetype that doesn't decide format or genre. Your comparison isn't valid. Being shitty or not is just your opinion, not an axiom. And no, works can be popular without having to like a tsundere lead, but more often that not it's not just the series that is popular, but the tsundere lead too.

All archetypes are generic by definition, but that doesn't mean they are inherently the same or bad. Creators merely using established archetypes isn't a problem, it's simply a matter of writing and execution.

>>160490385
>Turning away normalfags and newfags to anime
That's a good thing.

>>160490494
>normie
Holy shit, tsunderefags really are newfag cancer.

>>160490468
>newfags even knowing tsunderie, much less would find loli appeal or understand moe
-10/10

>>160490541

Didn't mention tsundere. Stick to shonen garbage, you worthless idiot.

>>160486174
Yeah I dropped this series because I couldn't stand her.

So what are Taiga's redeeming qualities?

>>160490672

A loving and loyal friend to anyone who doesn't treat her like a child

>>160490497
Tsunderes are shoehorned into the harem genre, hence it's valid. The only reason they look popular is because of the reasons given in >>160490115, plus how authors keep forcing tsundere ends even if the tsundere is much less popular than the other alternatives, making the entire genre unrewarding for anyone but tsunderefags. The tsundere archetype is pretty much an excuse for poor writing and nearly always poorly executed, which is why it's a problem.

>>160490523
Wrong. People with taste are turned off from the harem genre.

>>160490547
Newfags are the ones pushing the "best love story ever told" meme.

>>160490761
>newfags even knowing that meme
Yeah right.

>>160490717
Tsundere supposed originated in galgames, harem is the most suitable place for tsundere to appear, ergo they are not shoehorned just because you dislike them. They are in place as much as their kuudere and yamato nadeshiko counterparts that have similar standing.

Stop thinking with your personal negative biased. Your reason was utter nonsense and purely rationalizing while missing the point. The industry as a whole look at polls, fanarts, doujin communities, and thoughts and opinions on the net. That's how fans and creators alike tell if and when a character is popular or not. The main heroine of a story almost always wins. That has nothing to do with tsundere being a deciding factor, which even during the late 90's and throughout 00's, tsundere could barely be said to be the main heroine half the time.

>>160491274
supposedly*

>>160490307
This is the most retarded thing I've read all week. What magical proof can you conjure up back up that ridiculous claim that speaks for anime fandom everywhere? Shows like Slayer, NGE, Tenchi Muyo, Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha, CCS that established the anime foundation in the West are not only popular but have characters who are tsundere AND popular.

It's obvious you don't know, but Shana wasn't /a/'s first tsundere. Even before knowing what the term is, /a/ already loved characters like Shinku and DESU. Old /a/ was at its prime during the 06-08 years, it was the golden era. Being ignorant and showing disrespect of that is a sure way to known that you're a post-09 faggot.

>>160491274
Yes, the harem genre was far more healthy and innovative in the 90s before Akamatsu made the Takahashi brand of tsundere take over the entire genre without a Takahashi-style MC to counterbalance them. Keep the rest of your delusions to yourself, ESL-kun.

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>>160487592
>Amifags

Why do these even exist? She was fucking terrible.

>>160491714
People hated the shit out of Akane and Kagome, newfag. Hell, same goes for your "golden age" tsunderies. Occasional tsundere hugbox threads on /a/ don't change the fact that most people loathed them outside of those. Louise in particular even turned off most tsunderefags.

>>160491907
I lurked Anipike enough way back then to know you are bullshitting. Especially Kagome who had a ton of dedicated shrines/fansites (obviously most of them from fanarts) shilling and shipping her with Inuyasha who is popular too and is a tsundere for Kagome as well.

You are really bullshitting hard I don't care if you're mad and hate it. Tsunderies were among the most iconic and loved tsundere that familiarized most anime fans everywhere and not just /a/. Vocal minority detractors hardly made a dent in stopping the waves brought upon by their hype.

>>160486386
this meme again, taiga is still a bitch and ami is still best girl

>>160492300
Kagome fans were literally just self-inserting girls who saw Inuyasha as their "bishie". It's hilarious how delusional and desperate you are to claim that tsundere fans aren't just a vocal minority, all while proving yourself to be one for each post.

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I'm actually getting tired of some tropes. Tired of spineless beta MCs, tired of girls who just act like retards (one who is a bitch 24/7, another one who acts cutesy at all times, etc), tired of all the drama in romance stories and all the other stuff. Am I getting jaded or what? I used to enjoy most anime/manga way more a few years back.

>>160492300
>iconic
Yes.
>loved
Hahaha, no. They're literally famous for being how to NOT do tsunderes.

>>160492431
There's no need to create shrines and dedication sites for Kagome if all they did was merely self-self. To even ship means you have to think both characters are most suited for each other. You're grasping at straws.

Anti-fans like you are always the minority. History has shown that much. Deal with it.

it was clear from the first episode that the show was about Tiaga/Ryu. did anyone actually watch it expecting some other girl to win?

>>160491818
Going off-tangent and not even addressing my points. Fine, I'll take it that you concede on that front because you can't argue back beyond insulting with delusions then..

>far more healthy and innovative in the 90s
Prove it. List 10 harems from the 90's that don't have a tsundere then. Doubtful, but it's not like it'll prove anything since the harem genre progressively improves over the years and following decades. That much is undeniable given the growth, selection, and refined tropes/cliches when creating a harem. Whining and complaining won't change that fact.

>>160492542
>literally defending "zomg squee *glomps* xD inuyasha is my bishie call me darkkagome2000" sites
Back to Gaia and Tumblr. No, seriously.

I love Ami but I never shipped her. Taiga is still trash.

>>160492458
No, you're just noticing clichés that Japan always has on a checklist when it comes to making new series. The worst part is that in a single opening, you know which cliché a character will have just by looking at them. "She's the tsundere, he's the awkward MC, she's the genki girl, she's the kuudere." You would be hard pressed to find something that doesn't dip its toe in the same basic formula.

>>160492630
You're the one who arguing for general anime fandom outside of /a/, retard.

>>160486174
You think that even though you're on episode 11? Seriously? You must be an insensitive and heartless jackass or dumbass. Step up your game, nigga. My 11 year old niece enjoyed and mostly understood Toradora. And she adores Taiga.

>>160491818
Going off-tangent and not even addressing my points. Fine, I'll take it that you concede on that front because you can't argue back beyond insulting with delusions then..

>far more healthy and innovative in the 90s
Prove it. List 10 harems from the 90's that don't have a tsundere then. Doubtful, but it's not like it'll prove anything since the harem genre progressively improves over the years and following decades. That much is undeniable no matter how much you whine and complain because you hate tsundere.

>>160492602
Actually, I didn't concede. I won, because I'm not a delusional tsunderefag like you.

>the harem genre progressively improves
Yup, full delusional-tier. Even supposing you're right, it's actually been moving away from violent tsunderes this decade, so that would mean you're admitting 00s tsunderes were a mistake.

>>160486386
>>160486861
Nice meme.

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>>160491887
She was best girl and really the only character to have any proper development in the animu.

>>160492693
Actually, that's you. What I'm saying goes for /a/ too.

>>160492773
Tiaga had proper development too.
It was Miri that the show dropped the ball on.

>>160486386
Fag is mad his shit waifu got called out.

>>160492743
You did and you're doing it now by not providing any counterarguments or burden of proof. I can say you're the delusional one and given my arguments over yours, that certainly is extremely likely, if not actually logical..

You're proving me right by denying the fact harem genre improves progressively. It has become more attractive, expands by catering to wider demographics, and more fun and lively due to refined cliches/tropes. That's true across all forms of mediums from anime to games to novels. Harem isn't moving away from those tsundere at all, you're deluding yourself by cherrypicking. But the fact you even see that proves that harem is improving because it never stops to grow.

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>>160488549

>>160492773
You serious? Taiga's development had more impact and is better from a story perspective. Taiga was also superior as a girl.

>>160492907
>moving the goalpost
Fuck off already.
>goes for /a/ too.
You wouldn't know since you're a lying newfag.

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>>160492458
>spineless beta MCs
Just like me. I am too will be acting like a retard with "e, nandatte?" Because I know nothing about relationships or a mythical thing called love.
One difference is that I'm not a high school boy.

>>160486174
I don't know, since I wasn't a cancerous underaged fag when it aired and knew better than to watch obvious shit like it.

>>160488885
plural of "anime" is "anime".

>>160492530
Not him, but Shana and Taiga are top tiers. /a/ and Japan were in agreement about around the time their popularity was high. They won various saimoe too.

>>160487155
>MUH TSUNDERES
They're shit, 90% of them

>>160492458
Ryuuji wasn't even spineless though. He stepped up and took initiative when he thought it was needed. Though, he wasn't always right when doing so.

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>>160492773
Taiga >> Ami >>>> Minori

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>>160493234
Taiga and Shana are a miracle of the universe. Shana herself probably saved the anime industry at one point due to collective zerg of Chinese fans that spent hundreds of thousands, if not some millions on merchandises back then.

>>160493564
>>160493234
it's the seiyuu that made these characters popular
without Kugimiya these shows would have been generic trash as always

>>160493660
What? teh RIE didn't become a hit until she voiced Shana.

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Taiga is cute; CUTE.

>>160493660
It's anime, seiyuu are more or less actors. The performance of seiyuus count a lot in bring a character to life. But the role itself needs to be good too to make them stand out. None of Rie's other roles stood out until she got recognized by voicing Shana and Louise.

>>160487155
Neo /a/ is real, sadly. In with the influx mix of normalfags and newfags that's slowly killing /a/.

>>160493030
>You did and you're doing it now
Of course. Winning, that is. Nice to see you being in denial that your shitty tsunderes are dying while simultaneously wanting to say the harem industry isn't stagnant. It's one or the other.
Also:
>..

>>160493162
Nice try, but the newfag is you.

>>160493234
Maybe Shana, but people were tired as fuck of tsunderies after the shit that was Louise. Saimoe is infamous for votespamming tsunderefags, by the way.

>>160494138
You're pretty delusional. Taiga is arguably more popular than even Louise.

Japan's Saimoe and the international one have anti-proxy systems. The only thing people normally can do is planned assassination via tactic voting.

Ugh. I thought THK was gone for good since I haven't seen him sperg in over a week. I guess it was mere wishful-thinking on my part ;_;

>>160494095
Continued lack of counterargument and refusal to address past points, false sense of delusion of winning, ad hominem...you're not trying anymore.

It's obvious you hate tsundere with extreme personal bias, we all can see that, but it's one thing to delude yourself by ignoring reality because of moronic tunnel-vision. Burden of proof is on you, you know. Just compare and contrast all the harems with the tsundere that you loathe so much from his decade and the results won't be notable different from last decade. Along with that, see to the growing diversity and inclusion of token heroines types and refined harem antics that gravitates towards being more amusingly silly/fun or entertainingly awesome/over-the-topic, which denies your groundless claim of not healthy and stagnant.

>>160495484
There never was a "THK", just butthurt tsunderefags like >>160495259 and >>160495744 who can't handle the fact that tsunderes are in fact hated by most people, be it here, in Japan or elsewhere.

>>160495259
Pretty sure it took a good few rounds for them to catch Misaka. Either way, nobody gives a fuck about some random tournament considering the posts criticizing tsundere by far outnumber the votes for them.

>>160495744
tl;dr: You're a delusional tsunderefag. You lose, bye.

>>160496096
THK please. I could spot you from miles away. Right now you're even serving up the same old delusion I've seen you throw at me countless times.

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>>160496096
>Source: my ass

>>160487500
Pretty much this. Taiga, just like pretty much any bad tsundere, only was able to win through guilt tripping the obviously superior girl into not acting on her feelings.

>>160496344
>I can spot THK from miles away
>How, you ask? Criticize any tsundere or question anything I say, and it's YOU

I feel that people who have problems with tsunderes are the same people that have trouble dealing with kids because they can't act like an adult but instead throw a tantrum when a child gets angry because they themselves are a manchild.

>>160487474
We did it reddit!

>>160496285
Show some dignity and self-respect for yourself at least, THK. All I had to do was ctrl+f revision and most hated since that's always the same serving of delusion used to convince newfags and ignorantfags that you repeat day in and out. That's all you ever care about.

>>160496677
So you're saying people who are attracted to tsunderes are pedophiles?

>>160496285
>tl;dr:
>You're a delusional
Seems like you're done and out because you know I'm right and don't want to prove yourself wrong by doing your diligence in arguing back. Winning against an obvious underage shitposter such as yourself leaves a bad aftertaste.

>>160496711
>CTRL-F: THK
Oh hey, your posts showed up. Now that's something you try to convince people of existing day in and out, because you just can't handle basic criticism that's always existed and been commonplace.

>>160496797
Well tsunderes can also have bodies of an adult too. It just means that they're good with kids.

>>160496677
I think so too. It's more likely than we think.

>>160496854
>i-i won!
Hate to break it to you, but you very obviously didn't. Everyone but you can tell.

>>160496930
That's cute, THK. You know maybe one of these days you will finally overcome your bad habits and stop sperging the same delusional BS that pretty much nobody else would say, much less be autistic for.

>>160486174
tsundere fags

>>160496285
You can't argue worth a damn even if your life depends on it. I'm embarrassed for you.

>>160496677
>THK is literally an upset toddler
I can see it. Might as well treat him like one, since he's about as mature as one.

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>>160486174
Ami a best. Taiga a shit.

>>160497224
Don't be, anon. He, THK, is being coy and avoiding it on purpose because it's all just a big trolling game for him. Although his irrational blind hate to asspained level is legit though, as sad as it is.

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She is the best tsundere.

>>160497138
>delusional BS that nobody else would say
So, "THK"?

>>160497224
Yeah, it's embarrassing for you to be unable to argue back, isn't it?

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>>160497316

>>160497273
At other times THK acts like a total cunt and douchebag, yet he proclaims to hate tsundere for being bitches. The irony is real.

>>160497514
It was inevitable

>>160497357
>xD comeback that proves his point

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>>160497514
delete this

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>>160497368
>>160497400
>>160497514
That Ami bitch got what she deserved.

This entire show sucks, if it weren't for gg's shenanigans when it was airing it would have been forgotten as the LN bullshit it is.

>>160497597
Yeah, that comeback sure did prove my point.

>>160493808
Dude Shana pre-dates this piece of this show by half a decade.

>>160497357
Plenty of people go at it with you. You're too infamous among certain fanbases for good reasons after all. Nice try though.

>>160497752
It's four years, but what's your point?

>>160497675
You're thinking of Code Geass.

OP probably implying that a tsundere couldn't be that savage irl.

>>160497901
It frustrates me knowing that there are people in this world that believe Torafuckingdora is better than Geass.

>>160497786
>you
You mean the plural you, right? Because it's pretty clear you're calling lots of different people "THK". If anything, it's more likely that a tsundere fanboy would patrol the threads for series involving tsunderes and rage at anyone criticizing them.

>>160486386
Why? to prove you have brain damage?

>>160496285
Who? You better not be talking about mai Railgun waifu Misaka who has won like 30 freaking saimoe, nigga. Ain't no cheating needed for her to win a lot.

>>160497495
It gets even more ironic when you consider that tsunderes actually tend to be good at taking care of kids, such as Emi. I don't think THK needs to be afraid of tsunderes being mean to him.

>>160486174
I actually agree with you OP, I can't stand violent cunts like Taiga. But I guess /a/ can't handle people not circlejerking here, someone says one negative thing and the hugbox is disrupted. It's like a goddamn echo chamber in here

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>this thread

>>160498219
Unfortunately for you, that's a negative, THK. People mention and talk badly about you all the time when I'm not even lurking. I'm just another worker bee who discovered you by learning from others and by witnessing you first-hand on many occasions. You don't trip, but you are easier to spot than someone like LolisRDead by the very way you single out and focus entirely on segregating and negatively slant"people who likes tsundere. Then there's the constant and compelling need to challenge even the mere mention of tsundere is the most popular archetype by creating some alternative history to deny that.

>>160498266
>what is Saimoe 2011

>>160498832
>popular archetype
In how it was the first one to need a new word made for it because of how unrealistic yet prevalent it was, sure.

>>160498849
What about 2011? She won against Shana legit.

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>10,000 years into the future
>amifags will still be butthurt

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Taiga a love, Taiga a life.
OP is a faggot, just stab em with a knife.

>>160498993
>prevalent
You aren't wrong.

>>160499018
Nope, there was a Chinese guy votespamming. Was a pretty huge deal at the time.

>>160486174
Ami was necessary for the anime to have the impact it had. Imagine toradora without ami, a vital element would have been missing. Both taiga and ami are well-writting characters, minori was the unbearable one.

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>>160490206
>She was just created because of Japan's obsession with loli characters voiced by Rie Kugimiya.

We've long since passed Peak Rie though. What a shame.

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>>160498771

>>160499471
If any fake votes came through and is a huge deal then the staff would have done something or negate the outcome. Fake votes are a natural part of saimoe, but they are usually detected and removed before finalizing the votes. There's a reason why there is a half day period to check and sort throughout them. The votes Misaka got in the end are legit.

>>160499784
Still doesn't change the fact that Misakafags are proven cheaters.

>>160499971
>generalizing one supposed chink
Right. Fake votes happen all the time for countless girls, but you wouldn't know about it since staff don't disclose details anyways. How you know when forums don't report such a "big deal" is suspicious as hell. Given the nature of saiemoe, you don't know if they're intended to rally dissenting anti-fans to vote against or the work of zealous fans.

Ami > Minori > Taiga

>>160499655
At least make them put some effort into it, 3 posts in and he just gave up on making sense.

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The only good violent Tsundere is Sonya.

>>160500378
Seems pretty obvious you weren't on /a/ at the time.

>>160486174
>100% of the time
You need to finish Ep. 1 before commenting.

>>160486174
Ami confirmed for best girl but I didn't totally dislike Taiga. I found Minori to be far more annoying

>>160486888
>OP is right. I watched the entire series
>bitch 100% of the time
The bias is strong with this one.

>>160488319
>deep down
The cracks can be seen clearly, anon. Minorin is not sane.

>>160501118
That's possible since hunting down pics, charts, posters, card, and stuff takes to make an archive up a lot of my time during Saimoe time. But why would that matter? I don't recall talks of finalized fake votes slipping through or about a Chinese guy spamming votes at the main forum and the blog.

I enjoyed it more before I knew her VA was a disgusting fat pig with a pig face.

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>>160486971
>Mou ichido

>>160486386
>>160486861
How will watching unrelated series make Taiga less of an unlikable bitch?

>>160486174
Either you have incredible shit taste or didn't see past episode 3 yet.

>>160486174
>not liking tsunderes
fuck off

>>160486789

Taigas behaviour is completely realistic and understandable. You can like her because she isn't a bitch for no reason, she gets a lot better towards the end too.

>>160501814
>>160501844
Nice samefag there.

>>160493660
>A successful show wouldn't be successful if it lacks the complete formula that turned it into a success
No shit, Sherlock.

>>160502010
>different UIP
>same min
You must be new here.

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Ami was the best written character of that show and it wasn't even close. watch a real show like mgnozakikun fags

>>160486174
She's a classical slow burn tsundere like they were meant to be in the first place. You'd know this if you completed the show before posting you stupid fucking cunt

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>>160502010
>not even 1 minute apart

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>>160498771

>>160498771
>>160502257
/thread

>>160501801
>Watch at least 100 anime to cure your ignorance and educate yourself on tropes, cliches, formulas, dere archetypes, and culture that exists in anime and Japan
>Watch at least a 1000 anime to be a master scorning ignorant newfags (like OP).
>Or just watch the show with a functioning brain and heart to see Taiga is actually cute and lovable

>>160502129
>best written character
you mean barely written? she literally had about 20 minutes of screentime throughout the entire show and only served to point how fucking retarded Ryuuji was being...
even Minori was more important than her.

>>160502442
I am an anime veteran of over 500 series, movies and OVAs and Toradora is still the greatest love story ever told.

>>160502167
>slow burn
>tries to kill him with a fucking wooden sword in the middle of the night

>>160502682
That literally happens in the first episode, she doesn't get that violent with ryuji that much again. The only person she majorly fucks up is the student council president, who totally deserved it

>>160502476
>20 minutes of screentime
>exactly

toradora was one of the first shows i watched when getting into anime but never understood the hype. taiga was immediately dramatized into being an unlikable character, yes she does get mature in the end. but it was so obvious the show would take this show than why even bother watching it, "two characters have crushes on two individuals but in the end find the love for eachother"

kill me

>>160503095
>taiga was immediately dramatized into being an unlikable character
This was literally the point, she was a womanlet with daddy issues, only one friend and the figure of a toddler. She was immensely insecure. Her character arc was shedding her insecurity and not getting so defensive all the time.

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>>160493234
Shana is a miracle of the universe

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>>160486174
>has the body of a seven year old
>acts like a seven year old with her outbursts
>waaaaaah she has reasons
>muh loli

You're all as bad as pony lovers.

>>160492773
>"I love you because you don't treat me the way everyone else does but I know I can't have you"

that's literally her entire character. This "development" you speak of is more like a switch, where she just turned from a cunt who pretended to be nice into the two-dimensional boring character she stays for the rest of the series.

That being said she's still infintely better than Minori

>>160486174
I want to punch Taiga in the face

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I dunno about hate, but Ryuuji deserved way better. Guy was probably one of the best catches in anime ever. Taiga was pretty obnoxious in a bad way. Maybe I just have memories of bitchy roommates who'd complain about you cleaning up what a shitpile they'd made of the place.

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>>160504206
I don't like you or your argument, but I especially don't like your sample size image.

>>160486174
She's physically attractive.

>>160486174
geez its almost like she is pushing away other people because they spread rumors about her and her parents were shitty or something. Watch more than one episode you shitfart.

>>160501751
Canon.

>>160504206
>normalfag
Remove yourself.

>>160489999
witnessed

>>160495744
>not healthy and stagnant
When most harem winners were blatant carbon copies of Naru Narusegawa, who herself was a horrid and hated character, there very obviously was something very wrong with the genre. Nowadays, though, the industry is finally starting to listen to the fans and let girls who aren't tsunshit win. So yes, he's very obviously right on all accounts.

>>160486386
nah man

>>160486386
He's completely right

>>160487191
>unironically reading LNs

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>>160486174

>>160510710
Fuck you. Naru is a classic figure who was endearing and had refreshing inner monologue of her psyche at the time. She was the most popular girl on average in polls, but despite that she doesn't many copies/clones. You wouldn't be able to name 15 harem series with a lead heroine who's just like her. There are far more leads that aren't like her and/or are tsundere at all.

>>160512014
Sure thing OP.

>>160486174
She's awful.

I hate the trend of Japanese VAs forcing out these guttural wet mouth noises to signal now unladylike the character is. not everybody who watches anime is autistic, you can be a little less obvious

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>>160514195
>here we see OP bumping his shit thread back from page 10 right before it 404s

>>160499525
>those childbearing hips on Shana
Please anon, I already fapped.

>>160486174
>b-but she gets better!

Does anyone ever notice why all tsundere threads are shit?

>>160486174
>Why don't everyone share my taste in things? How is it possible?

>>160513068
>Naru is a classic figure who was endearing
>she doesn't many copies/clones
1/10

>>160514992
Yeah, it kind of goes with how shit the archetype itself is. Of course its fanbase is equally bad.

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>>160486174

>>160515131
But OP is literally "why do you like something I don't like?".

>>160486174
I dropped this halfway through because everyone started acting like spastic drama queens

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Can I have some anime suggestions where the protags fall in love early, make it canon, and then spend the rest of the series in love? No will-they-won't-they shit: I want best couples doing best couple things.

Bonus for battle couples.

>>160516293
>Can I have some anime suggestions
No, fuck off.

>>160486386
This, OP is a normie.

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>>160486174
I like her what are you going to do OP?

>>160516435
>normie
Fuck off.

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>>160516293
ask reddit and stay there

>>160516293
Boku no Pico. Yw.

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>>160488727
E-excuse me sir, you dropped this.

>>160514915
Taiga shows progress as soon as Ep 3.

>>160486174
I agree

>>160516551
Fuck off and lurk more

>>160488727
>your brain will not find normal sex or relationships satisfying because they are inferior to 2d
ftfy

>>160518103
You fuck off with your /r9k/ shit. It's normalfag here crossboarder.

>>160488727
Jesus, what disgusting levels of normalfaggotry this faggot is promoting

>>160517553
why would you tolerate that behavior for more than five minutes?

>>160518949
Then don't talk like you know shit about the show.

>>160486861
heyo

>>160519202
again, why would you tolerate that behavior?

>>160502257
>>160498771
>its been almost 10 years and this is still dead on

>>160516293
Ore Monogatari off the top of my head.

>>160519477
Because taiga is fucking hot

>>160486174
We have taste and you don't.

Ami
>Better design
>More adult like behaviour
>Better personality

Taiga
>Childlish body
>Tsundere
>...

That's all this shit it's reduced to.

>>160520316
>I like abusive cunts

I always like these threads because no one seems to be happy.

>>160521379
i'm happy

>>160486174
>Watching toradora in 2k17
Thats how i kniw you new

>>160488727
DL;DR
2D>3D in all cases.

As if we didn't already know.

Taiga is trash tho. The only reason why people think she is the best is only because the show suddenly decided to make the other 2 girls completely insufferable on the last 4 episodes or so

>>160486174
>created a thread to complain and judge when he clearly hasn't seen 1/4 of a rom-com drama show
I swear, newfags these days don't know about the greatest love story.

>>160486174
When I watched it I just assumed those calling it the greatest love story were joking. I still do.

cheap writing

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>>160516293
>Can I have some anime suggestions where the protags fall in love early

Rec. Female lead endearingly voiced by Kanako Sakai. She has sex with MC first episode during a moment of emotional vulnerability -- yet it isn't smut.

>>160516293
>Can I have some anime suggestions where the protags fall in love early

His and Her Circumstances
(Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou)

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>>160486174
agreed desu

taiga a shit

ami a best

>>160525662
Amifags are a joke. Ami is even worse than Minori.

I like Taiga because she seems easy to beat a better attitude in to. She is 4'9, I shouldn't be hard for anyone to overpower her and give her an attitude adjustment

Alright /a/,
Was it good?

>>160525662
>slut
>whore
>bitch
>old hag
>best anything

>>160526292
It was okay.

>>160526292
No.

>>160526036
Why did this never happen? Taiga is only 75 pounds, you'd think there would have been a breaking point for one of the characters

>>160526292
It was pretty good, It's one of the only shows that got a feel out of me during the god-tier Christmas special.

Although a big negative for me was how terrible all the girls were. All of them were turbo cunts one way or another.

>>160526504
>>160526036
>18 years old
>4'9
>75 pounds
This isn't normal at all, right?

>>160525235
>>160525269
shoujo is a really underrated genre, lots of gems hidden in there

Was Minori's brother even real?

>>160526292
8/10 romantic drama. I think the theme and the MC's narration that fits into the whole story gives it an edge over most other romantic drama.

>>160516293
Eureka Seven. Renton falls for her pretty early, and it's just him trying to get his shit together an growin' up.