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The waiting continues and I'm not even a skeleton.
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>Climb arc for the manga for the rest of the year
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>>160481676
Aura is best girl (female).
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Ainz is cute, CUTE
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L I Z A R D
T H O T
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>>160482150
>Climb arc

There's no such thing, only the sebas arc.
So sebas is worse than climb.
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ded
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>>160486530
very ded
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>>160484191
>men of the kingdom isn't full of climb shit
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>>160483035
thicc
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sooo any news about the new volume?
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>>160488062
nope
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>>160484191
i wonder what Renner will look like after her deal with Ainz
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>>160488413
>Two faced psycho bitch
>Already have Actor classes
>Likes to play Maria Theresa before the masses

I bet she'll look same, but doppel.
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So how will Re-Estize 9/11 go?
>Severe famine finally strikes as a result of major labour loss on Katze
>6 fingers start beating down doors on loans they gave undesirable nobles
>veggies faction with secret support from SKAOG becomes #1 food provider in Kingdom
>inflate their prices because they can and because Hilma whispered Philip to do so
>Every other noble house forced to pay ridiculous price to those fucking upstarts
>Teeth grinding finally broke out into cries for action
>Joint Noble faction storms Veggies faction land
>Suddenly SKAOG provides proof of trade and treaties with Veggies
>Moves in with force under pretence of protecting their valuable allies
>Noble Faction forces are completely rekt
>Chaos ensues in their lands
>Zanack tries to play a hero and lends King's authority for peacekeeping operation in Noble Faction lands
Renner x Demi x Albedo keikaku starts here for real
>Zanack mysteriously disappears while peacekeeping
>Renner requests\commission Blue Rose to investigate second Prince Faith
>Only to find that filthy Nobles used Demon Statue to summon demons and ambush Zanack
>They barely escape unscathed or Lakuys dies
>No First or Second Prince, King is still MUH GAZEF
>First Princess reluctantly takes command of field operations
>Kingdom commissions all available adventurers, Royal Faction mobilizes forces and moves in to clean up Noble Faction lands from demons and other undesirables
>They succeed, success is attributed to Renner who competently commanded troops in the field while showing mercy to rebelled Noble Faction leaders by not killing them on the spot
>By that point King is either done with this shit or poisoned/put under spell
>Abdicates and wills Crown to Renner
>Renner immediately seeks SKAOG help to alleviate harsh consequences of both war with Empire and recent Civil War
>SKAOG accepts on the surface
>Under the surface Kingdom is now a Puppet state of SKAOG
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>>160489500
cont
>Demon Statuette was unleashed by an actual noble from Noble Faction as a result of a separate keikaku=scape goat
>Other Noble Faction members were captured and held captive by demons
>During Renner' military operation in Noble Faction lands Climb commanded elite set of troops dedicated to locating and saving noble hostages
>He was buffed from stealth by Nazarick units and Demon forces occupying territory played along with his tactics
>Which earned Climb a lot of combat merits in the face of both Royal and Noble factions
>Upon his return soldiers and some Royal Faction leaders spoke highly of him
>Prompting King to gift him a shortsword because why the fuck not? he gave one to Momon
>Since both princes are MIA, likely dead and country is in disarray - King doesn't have the energy it takes to sort this shit out and transfers Crown to Renner
>She starts solve issues with her high INT and then pleads to SKAOG for help with famine and security
>Ainz visits Re-Estize capital and "Umu, impressive, you've done good for your country in such a short time"
>Assists Renner with food, now grown by Veggies with support of SKAOG druids and mages, and security in a form of DK
>Suddenly Zanack returns, says he was imprisoned in a basement and cleanup forces missed him, took him awhile to chew through cage bars
>Renner is now a Queen and Ainz sasugaes her, nobody dare to squeak about removing her from power in favor of Zanack
>Renner gives him some mildly important station
>Also summons Raeven while being her usual persuasive self
>Forms one council with Zanack and Raeven
>And another, secret council with Albedo or other SKAOG contacts
>She's now a queen: queen can do whatever the fuck she wants, especially when supported by Ainz
>Grants Climb lordship
>Marries him
Insert endless cowgirl riding while gazing into puppy eyes, maybe licking them a bit
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>>160488413
whats in the box
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Daily reminder that NWers don't have levels until Yggdrasil entity measures their power level in nearest approximation.
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Kyouhukou is strongest NPC in Nazarick because both Aura and Albedo are afraid of him.
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EE Bug Spray does %HP damage.
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Thirty 100lvl Golems guard 8GK base and PDL only need 8GK descendant to puppet him into manipulating golems for him.
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Fluder only ages when he casts magic.
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Demiurge commands NPC in case of enemy attack, so he is commander-type NPC.
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Can somebody explain to me why Satoru is ok with murdering thouthands and torturing endlessly? I mean I've got that he has is emotions suppressed but why it is suddenly ok with a person to go on mayhem just because he does not feel guilty about it? I've always though that our morales are more of a brain stuff and not emotional.
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>>160490584
Not really do you feel bad doing something morally questionable?
Do you feel good upholding morale?

Beside that, Ainz has no sympathy towards humans since he has become a undead. He was a bit suprised too seeing them nothing more then insects but admits while conversing with some he sees them more like animals.

On the other hand, he has sympathy towards the former NPCs because they are directly connected to his past and his former friends. To the point where he sees them as his foster children.
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>>160490584
But there seems also more to it.
At this point Ainz is not part of Satoru anymore.
Satoru has become a part of Ainz Character.

The change towards that is getting more and more visible. He can be ruthless rational charismatic. But if you tick his Satoru side he gets emotional a bit.
A good example was the Dwarf that tried to revive Runesmithing, at first he had no real reason to go and help the dwarf after hearing the situation about the Runesmiths nearly lost compelte interest. But then he got reminded of his own situation wanting to preserve something important to him and he started to make plans for the runesmiths.
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>>160490584
Ainz commented multiple times how he now has zero compassion and sympathy towards humans.
He can still care of specific person or a group of people if he finds them valuable or impressive in their own way: Gazef, Carne, Renner, Jircniv.
On the other hand vol3 fucked him major way: he is now prepared to do anything for security and expansion of Nazarick.
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>>160490584
NPC personality after transfer to NW are based largely on their settings with a bit of their Creators traits covering the gaps.
I think same is true for Ainz.
NW Ainz is Momonga Overlord character with Satoru's personality copied on top.
Since character alignment -500 Evil was quite clear on the matters of compassion - character settings held greater effect on resulting entity than Satoru's traits.
That is - if Satoru even cared much about fellow human beings to begin with:
>mom died making a sandwich
>live in a toxic utopia
>has to wear hazmat suit every time you go out
>wageslave all your life
>only friends and pleasant experiences are in VR MMO

It's easy to see how a personality might get twisted in those circumstances.
Maybe Satoru only cared about Nazarick, NPC and Guildmates to begin with.
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>>160490066
>tfw a wise old man will never oral sex with my feet because he wants to know about a game
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>>160482150
I just want to see Demiurge's demons in action.
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>>160492422
Would it be cute or creepy if demiurge joins the Ainz bowl?
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>>160491017
>Vol 3 fucked him
Actually, he said in vol 6 that his experiences with killing Shalltear have helped him to control his rage against those who attack his subordinates. He almost decapitates Evileye for saying that they battled with Entoma. And he ordered a city-wide massacre to be carried out by Demiurge (the most sadistic of his generals) when Tsure, who he had accepted as part of his subordinates, was kidnapped and Sebas was threatened.
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>>160492497
If Sebas and Cocytus are of any indication, he wouldn't mind if asked, but he isn't actively searching for it. We could Aura to that group.

I mean, it would be a privilege, but they seem to understand that they cannot compete against the ones that were literally designed for breeding.
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>>160492555
>dat pic
>an overgrown iceberg mantis
>a gray-haired butler
>a devil in a business suit
>discussing bunch of reports with graphs of them

Wouldn't sitting with his tail behind his back would be uncomfortable though?
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>>160493018
Depends on how much he slouches I suppose.
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>>160493018
Probably the spikes doesn't even bother him unless he is really trying to harm himself.

Also, the chairs might have something like this bellow, seeing the modern design.
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Is there a difference between the Ln and the manga, did change some characters or the story??
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>>160493446
Not really, if anything - manga depicts few scenes in more detail than in original LN.
it's pretty close to the original.
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>>160484191
Is she wet in the pic?
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Reminder
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>>160493446
Manga still skips a lot of stuff. Lately a lot less than the LN, but we still don't get things like Nigredo.

On the other hand, the Lizzardman was pretty close to the LN.
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>Almost all of them were men, and the promise of violence hung heavily over them
>99% of Adventurers are human males with few vagabound demi-human individuals and slave elves
>Re-Estize Adventurers Guild is not diverse enough
>Ainz is going to diversify it

Is Ainz far left?
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>>160493625
>tolere any species and want everyone to be happy and equal under him
Yes, almost commie.
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>>160493625
Remember that all expressions of fascism need some form of socialism to exist.

But Ainz is a 'benevolent Tyrant', the kind that will only put a few rules and let you do whatever you want. And the rules are mostly 'don't eat each other' and 'don't fuck with Nazarick'.
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>>160490584
It's just a game
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>>160493838
A theory about our reality being a simulation gaining popularity IRL fast.
You can't even prove your life is real, so if a simulation is detailed enough - it does not really matter.
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>>160493757
We need to create our own benevolent AI Overlord that would eliminate injustice and corruption out of socialistic system.
It would probably work then.
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>>160493901
>A theory about our reality being a simulation gaining popularity IRL fast.
LoL, that theory have been around for a long time. 20 years at least.
And you should look more into it, if it is a simulation, it's more likely that it just of our brains and not the universe itself. Also theories that can't be proven false, cant be proven right either, so they are discarded by most.
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>>160493625
>genocided the mountain lizards to spite them Surrendering
>killed an entire human army
>chased said routed human army to finish them off
>lies to everyone to save his image
>thinks his followers will betray him for no reason
hes basically bone Stalin at this point
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>>160494003
>can't be proven false
>can't be proven right
I thought shit like quantum collapse, entanglement and delayed choice somewhat strengthened this theory.
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>>160494003
>not right or wrong
well then its just a matter of faith
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>>160494010
>mountain lizards
Who?
Moles?
It was Aura and Shalltear decision and judging by moles attitude - it was a right one.
Unlike lake lizards, who suffered relatively minor losses in PoP battle and lost their few elites in Cocytus fight, fully embracing their new Overlord after - moles are inherently unloyal and would be looking for a chance to rebel if not for Shallter genociding them.
>killed an entire human army
That's just politics.
He'd put forth an ultimatum while knowing nobody really would take SKAOG seriously.
So he had to do something to make his might known.
Said humans also attacked Carne which Ainz considered his protectorate.
If you're talking about retarded Prince and his rag-tag bunch that got rekt by Enri - they got this coming.
>lies to everyone to save his image
You've gotta look and behave the part anon, he values Nazarick and NPC and playing the role of their Overlord is a big part of it.
>thinks his followers will betray him for no reason
Nah, only until drama cd, he also strives to be a better boss to lessen the chance of coup, not gulag everyone around like Stalin did.

But I see nothing wrong with bone Stalin.
That's just how totalitarianism works and Ainz has few important advantages before Stalin - he's immortal, emotionally unbiased and his minions have absolute loyalty toward him.
Most wrong thing Stalin did is dying followed closely by gulaging the shit out of his fellow commies and general populace in paranoid fear to lose reigns over the country.
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>>160494164
I propose the Simulation cult religion.
If civilization is advanced enough to create such detailed simulation - they must be able to generate dark matter in their garage after lunch.
Meaning single rotten apple could wipe out entire society.
Thus every member requires an "education" in a form of consecutive runs in a simulation where he learns until he perfects his self and can be release in real world.
The cult objective would be polishing basic human humanitarian qualities and self-improvement so that members can get to real world sooner.
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>>160494301
The hilarious part is even if Ainz treated his NPCs like crap they'd just love him more for it.
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>>160494463
I want to see NWers realize how tender Ainz is towards his subordinates.

>Jircniv visiting E-Rantel
>Empire vassalized and now enjoy benefits of total security and steady prosperity
>Jircniv still suspects damn skeleton of some SPLAT-tier conspiracy
>They walk the streets and talk about various topics
>Ainz just want to chat with his buddy Jir
>Jir's head in 6th gear over "do-not-get-empire-SPLATed"
>Carefully chooses his actions and words
>Suddenly wild Nemu appears
>Runs headfirst into Ainz legs and hugs him
>Jircniv stops breathing at this point and kind of moves hand to protect eyes from incoming blood spatters
>Nemu looks up to Ainz with sparkly eyes
>Shouts "Ainz-sama, Ainz-sama, me and onee-san come visiting!"
>Stretches hands up to Ainz and makes impatient expression
>Ainz goes full HOHOHO and lifts her up
>Gives her a short merry-go-round
>Comments on how she's grown
>Puts her back on the ground
>Ushers to run along to her sister
>Who's standing blue-faced few meters away
>In a pose that's somewhat between going after Nemu with both hands and bowing respectfully
>Enri apologizes
>Ainz introduces her to Jirchiv
>BTW she's near adamantium rank now
>And leads army of thousands of demihumans
>Ainz sets her up for a meeting later
>Enri and Enmu sod off
>Jircniv counter-keikaku train derailed
>He loses is and acts casually
>Where were we?
>Cont walking the streets discussing various SKAOG and Empire topics
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Where are you guys reading this?

I'm at Volume 10, where are you all at now? It's been awhile.
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>>160494672
waiting on volume 12 to come out
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>>160494615
>Enri x Jircniv
All hail the new queen.
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>>160494765
But how about Nphirea?
And goblin-sans?
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>>160494827
He'll have a tragic accident.
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>>160494874
But he can wear Touch Me's armor!
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>>160481676
Aura look more mature here. Just imagine how Mare would look like at the beach.
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>“That is hard to tell. Lupusregina is with you, Albedo-sama, but Solution is on Shalltearsama’s side.
>As for Entoma and Shizu, their allegiances are not yet known.”

Nazarick Ainzbowl Civil War when?
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>>160495418
It's already been decided they're just all going to be in a harem.
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>vol2cha2part1
>Ainz was mildly annoyed when he returned, but that is a tale for another time.
Did we ever heard that story?
Ainz went out of an inn in E-Rantel after arriving in the city with Nabe for the first time to look around.
He returned annoyed for some reason.
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>>160493522
You really think it was raining?
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>>160495585
Actually it was.
>He raised his face and saw the darkened clouds covering the sky bleed out a fog of rain.
But that's not what I asked.
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>>160493936
Even a malevolent AI is probably less likely to wipe you out and will probably treat you better than whatever we have now.

People think of AIs as cold and rational, but one developed by us would probably be the most charismatic being in existence.
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>>160494463
They wouldn't care as long as they were put to use. Working like slaves is good because they are helping their creators. Working less but having their creators worrying about them is also good.

Really, Ainz could go nude around Nazarick, insulting and punching everyone in the face, throwing demon shit to their faces and everyone would applaud him.
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>>160495669
This wasn't rain, climb delirious mind confused renner's dripping pussy juices with rain.
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>>160495762
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>>160495799
The whole scene is told from young climb's perspective, he was tired hungry, personally I think renner just pissed on him to see if he's alive or not, but when he smiled at her she decided to take him in.
Also in my headcannon renner is a princess (male)
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>>160493936
When will best son get more screen-time?

>>160494935
I doubt he is strong enough to move in that thing. It seems to be way bigger than any human armor, and probably the materials are way denser.

>>160495418
>The faces in that picture

But no, they are just fighting to see who will take Ainz's virginity and become the first wife in the bone harem.
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>>160495911
>that level of headcanon and fetishism
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>>160495946
>Ainz's virginity
Virginity doesn't apply to the undead.
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>>160495946
>Pandora's Actor
>More screentime
Who's the doppel Demiurge uses in Roble Kingdom?
Some noname grunt from Nazarick or best son?
>armor is too heavy to move in
Nah, it's enchanted like shit, probably works like an exoskeleton too: matching user's size and strength.
>take Ainz's virginity
Picrelated already snatched it.
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why did no1 post new chapter translated
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>>160496212
Because we hate you.
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>>160496267
nvm found it lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SadXfTsMigI
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>>160496310
eyyyyy y y y y y
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>>160496310
woops wrong lunk lol https://imgur.com/a/G7DnP
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>>160496310
>>160496346
That's the kind of cancer you guys enabled. Congratulations.
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I wonder how high a person can go using flight. In the anime Ainz practically went out of the atmosphere and looking down on the planet.
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>>160496410
oh yea? what anime you like?
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>>160496425
If magic works in space - there's probably no limit.
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>>160496346
>Continued in October
Why the fuck is it so slow?
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>>160492422
>>160492497
I kinda wish he did even if only for the gag. It'd be hilarious not to mention he's actually a better girl than chair and slut.
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>>160496671
>>160495946
>Best girl
Demiurge
>Best son
Pandora's Actor
>Best breeding material
Albedo

Ainz is also a clear substitute in each category.
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>>160496834
Ainz is best dad.
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>>160496834
Other Overlords don't seem to have that glowing orb in their ribcage.
Is this the headcanon'd equipment-breaking WCI?
>>160496872
Ainz is shit dad, he doesn't deserve his son.
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>>160496917
>Ainz is shit dad
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>>160496957
Well yeah, he's great uncle since he takes great care about his comrade's NPC, but the way he treats PA is far from ideal.
So shit dad.
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>>160497034
It's like looking in the mirror and seing yourself when you were a 15 y.o. cringy little shit doing embarrassing stuff.You as well might want fall through the earth.
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>>160497190
Distancing your innocent creation because of this is cruel and selfish.
A good dad would've looked past it for the benefit of the child.
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>>160496917
>Is this the headcanon'd equipment-breaking WCI?

It was in the webnovel (it's explained in one of the tinb invasion chapters). Light novel hasn't detailed what his WN is, but seeing that he doesn't has it during the conquest of Nazarick artwork, it's probably the orb.
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>>160497237
He did. He forced his hikkimori son out of the treasury and gave him a job.
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>>160497245
Wait. What? That orb was something? What did it do in the webnovel?
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>>160497286
>>160497245
Friendly reminder that WN is not canon.
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>>160497331
I don't care. I'm curious.
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>>160497258
>designed hikikkomori son so he could guard and account for treasures while being happy in seclusion
>then force him out when he needs his abilities
>disregards his settings to the point where son had to plea for him specifically to be allowed back in treasury from time to time to cater to his hikki instincts
>tells his son to not act the way is natural for him because it displeases him

Like I said: shit dad.
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>>160497034
>>160497237
>>160496917
But Ainz is actually getting closer to PA. In fact, in Vol 10 Pandora is kind of upset because he is getting too much time out of his treasury.

Ainz just says that even if he recognizes him as his son, he can't give him a preferential treatment to his 'foster children'.


>>160497286

I think it was a stat/magic booster? Anyway, here it is the extract:

>Roberdyck curled his hand into a fist, and punched. He had one aim. The pulsating orb located at the end of Ainz’s spine.

>He believe that was his weak point.
 
>His fist hit in a way that it seemed to be pulled in—When a loud metallic cracking sound could be heard.

>Receiving a powerful impact, Roberdyck’s fist was repelled. The recoil was astounding, and from it, Roberdyck’s gauntlet was completely broken and fell to the ground.

>He stumbled backwards from Ainz, and Roberdyck made a surprised face and looked at his fist. While his gauntlet completely shattered, his hand beneath did not have a scratch. It was a strange situation. However, if he thought about the existence known as Ainz, Roberdyck felt that such a result was fitting.

>“Be grateful. You just touched the highest class of magic item. The world item that becomes stronger when I wield it, the world item that has my name engraved on it. In the last war, half of the players died to this. —Shalltear!”

According to the wiki, if he activates it he would lose some levels, but I don't remember reading that in the current WN.
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>>160497258
>>160497286
>>160497331
>>160497354
>Other overlords do not have this orb
>In vol11 before confronting dragons Ainz feels confident because of WCI that guildmates allowed him to personally carry
>How it is a good counter to dragons
>In webnovel orb is equipment-breaking WCI

It's just a theory though.
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>>160497381
>he thought his NPC would become real or consider him a father
Ainz is doing the right thing.
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>>160497331
It helps to fill some of the gaps since most of the background elements and story elements are consistent in both stories. Ainz is more active in this one, but most things are the same.

The major divergences are Ainz not going to magic school and instead becoming an adventurer, and Demiurge attacking the kingdom instead of just Sebas destroying the Eight Fingers.

The rest are pretty much the same events.
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>>160497498
>The rest are pretty much the same events.
+ cringe - smooth plot
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>>160497446
I wonder how that Orb would look in a non-skeletal character. Would it have a gorey-animation to put it inside of you?
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>>160497286
WCI:
-Largely responsible for taking out the 1500 raiders (according to WN)
-Can destroy weapons that attack it(WN)
-apparently it is almost custom made for Ainz class build.
-very effective against dragon( LN)

Downside is that it require the user levels, which Ainz is not willingly to use in the NW. Since Ainz can't find ways to quickly level up if he losses some levels. Otherwise he already gone full OP on the NW top dogs already
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>>160497540
Maybe it replaces the heart?
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>>160497559
If friendly fire is enabled do you think he could just farm his POP monsters?
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>>160497559
>-apparently it is almost custom made for Ainz class build.
WCI can't be made, as far as LN goes.
You can make shit Rubedo out of WCI ore maybe.
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>>160497559
>Otherwise he already gone full OP on the NW top dogs already

He already is.

The only known things that can defeat him in a 1vs1 are the Dragons and even then it's unlikely with his arsenal and his three revivals.
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>>160497602
>Farm POP
>100lvl Player farming 30lvl mobs
Not feasible, Ainz would need at least 70lvl mobs to earn some experience.
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>>160497559
Don't remember where it was mention, but when Ainz uses it during the attack on the 8th floor, it totally wreck many players equipment. Most of them complain to the company that AOG are cheating.
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>>160497635
Reminder that DDDL is 150+ level and has WCI.
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>>160497671
>Don't remember where it was mention
Probably as usual: as headcanon in one of the Overlord threads.
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>>160497656
If he discovered some infinite gold trick it shouldn't be hard.

I wonder if Create Greater Item could just create golden stuff and sell it. Or maybe just summon Elder Liches and steal their shinnies.

Ainz wanted to investigated that at some point in the LN, but we haven't heard any more of it.
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>>160497615
Not really custom made. I mean that the WCI is like specially made for him. He suited him very well.
Like when a warrior get his hands on a sword that is like just made for him in battle.
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>>160497656
Didn't Ainz mention that he got experience from using the Dark Young? (Or did I read that wrong?) Wouldn't that imply even low level enemies drop experience?
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>>160497727
But if Yggdrasil mechanics rigidly restricts former game entities - Ainz would not make it past 100lvl.

Although I'd go about it this way:
>Flight have no upper altitude limit
>Asteroids naturally have more ore than planets
>Mine the shit out of asteroids
>Feed it to Exchange Box
>Summon gazillion 90lvl mercs
>Farm them until you're 300lvl
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>>160493018
I assume he has full-body damage resistance of some sort.
He can probably sit comfortably on a bunch of nails without the density which allows humans to do the same.
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>>160497765
He mentioned that he did not any experience from massacring 130k humies on Katze.
Ainz notes how he was able to summon a record number of goats and how satisfied he is with that fact.
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>>160497877
I thought he said he didn't level up despite filling in his experience bar?
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>>160497845
Remember how 100lvl tank Albedo's bosom is surprisingly soft?
I doubt it would be comfortable, only that it wouldn't hurt.
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>>160497684
>150
>Killed just too players
>Dragons are known for superior stats
>Still is mentioned that Shalltear could probably take him

He just has cheating necromancy skills. Ainz is a PvP player and most of his abilities either stunt you, vastly decrease your stats or kill you in a single attack. Now add some dragon stats to the undead immunities and you get some pretty annoying bossfight.

>>160497705
We still have like 3 volumes without translation. But headcanon is a probably option as well.
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>>160497765
Unless he want to be know as a butcher that keep slaughtering armies for exp. I don't think he consider slaughter a good way to farm exp. In WN when he uses it to collect exp, it put him in a very bad position. The empire soldiers saw it as collecting the souls which is why many call him a demon.
Ainz is going for the merciful and good king image these days to promote his kingdom. Bad idea to show the church that you are harvesting souls at the same time
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>>160497981
Yeah, but I was pointing out it may be an option to farm POP but it's in question.
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>>160497906
>Ainz filling in his experience bar in Vol9 massacre
Someone post a citation if you can find it, I wasn't able to.
>>160497961
>cheating necromancy skills
Or mind control.
Undead is immune to mind control.
>We still have like 3 volumes without translation
What?
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>>160497684
He is a necrophilic lolicon and soon we would see Ainz sitting on a chair who sits on a chair of his own.
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>>160497635
>He already is.

Go reread the novels and remember the author said the NW can keep nazarick contained in their tomb if the whole world went against him.
Which means rubedo, garguanta, 8th floor fuckers and shit ton of npcs would lose and this isn't counting other players doing the same thing ainz is doing.
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>>160497935
Comfort is relative. Chances are, he is a bit masochistic, being the devil and stuff.
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>>160498099
Is that you >>160495911 again?
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>>160498187
>he is a bit masochistic
>inb4 Best Boy succumbing to Ainzbowl race too
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>>160498181
Yeah, that's if the whole world went against him. He's already smashed his local area (and explored out and smashed others) and he's got a foothold in multiple areas outside the tomb. Their moment to seal Nazarick has long since passed.
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>>160498050
>>160497906
>>160497877
>At that battlefield, Ainz had killed over 100,000 people with magic. In Yggdrasil, the amount of experience points gained was reduced in accordance to the level difference between both parties, to a minimum of one point. In other words, he should have earned over 100,000 experience points. Coupled with the accumulated experience from before coming to this new world, he should have gotten enough to level up. However, Ainz did not feel that he had levelled up or seen any related phenomena.

>In other words, Ainz could not get any stronger, as he had expected. Still ― he could not be content with that. If level 100 was the limit, then it could not be helped. However, he was then obliged to fully utilize the power of those 100 levels and refine his skills. If he believed he was the strongest and rested on his laurels, someone might someday surpass him.

He doesn't specifies if he gains experience or not. Just that if there was no level cap, he should have leveled up following the game experience rules.

But gaining experience is possible, seeing how the two players from the Thirteen Heroes quickly leveled up to surpass all the other members. If the rules still work, and he can gain experience from summons, he would just need to farm the demons that Demiurge's bodyguards can summon per day.
>>160498050
>What?
WN translations
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>>160498192
No. It's just my headcanon assumption about his weakness to Shalltear.
It would be hilarious if it turns out to be true.
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>>160482663
I am still wondering if it is a good idea for Ainz to just start a business enterprise already instead of conquest.
I mean come on:
>cola(this will like take over 90% of the market)
>ice cream
>hamburger
>chips
>a item that can produce any kind of food for 1 coin. (just imagine dragon meat and sell it for 10 times the price)
>a item that turn any material into coins.
>possess a scroll factory and a potion factory
>exclusive deal with dwarf for weapons in exchange for vegetables
>massive farming
>Posses a air delivery transport
>Posses portals to connect to every place available

Ainz would be the riches undead ever.
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>>160498229
>outside operations
Are nowhere as safe as Nazarick.
Ainz himself commented how solid rock and wood walls of Fake Nazarick Aura is building are akin to paper when faced with offensive magic.
Nazarick outside operations are run by a Guardian + 5 75lvl minions at best, if while NW is capable of keeping Nazarick contained - it sure as hell can drive it back in.
The only considerable loss Ainz afflicted onto NW is WCI Dress hag, which would probably be able to snatch some of the NPC\mercs onto the NW side.
Gazef is probably small fry to whatever the mightiest force in NW is.
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>>160498293
>If the rules still work, and he can gain experience from summons, he would just need to farm the demons that Demiurge's bodyguards can summon per day.
Could you imagine that shit?

>Ainz: I'm apologize for this. I wish there was some other way than constantly killing you over and ov--
>RandoDemon#7: Why? I love it!
>Ainz: Ehhhh?!
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>>160497961
>We still have like 3 volumes without translation.
wat
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>>160498181
>remember that the author said

Care for a citation?

The Eight Greed Kings already exterminated the most powerful race in the world and conquered the continent without opposition.

Nazarick was one of the strongest guild bases in the game, and even if all the players had bought one or two WCIs with them each century, Ainz would still have one more WCIs than the entire world.
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>>160498293
>. If the rules still work, and he can gain experience from summons, he would just need to farm the demons that Demiurge's bodyguards can summon per day.
But why?
If lvl 100 was the limit of Yggdrasil- he won't be able to level up.
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>>160498344
You're missing the point. The world missed its chance to organize against Ainz already. He's no longer operating outside of the tomb and he's already gained allies. It's no longer, "Ainz v World." It's, "Ainz and Some of the World v Some of the World."
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Will Ainz ever sit on the skeleton throne Demi made for him? How awesome would it be in a pic
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>>160498360
>They only summon Slaaneshi daemons
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>>160498410
No, but Avarice and Selflessness can store extra XP, which he can then use to summon high tier undead or grant to someone to level them up.
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>>160498334
I don't think SKAOG is all that far away from implementing some of it.
Ainz already plans mass food production and selling Dwarf merchandize to Adventurers.
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>>160498410
We were talking in the case he decides to go and lose some levels.

There still the issue of maybe needing something to regain his special high-level classes, like items or going to certain places.

>>160498449
Check the manga.
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>>160498334
He is already all but demolished Dwarfen and Re-Estize economy.
He doesn't need to conquer them at this point: after twenty or so years he can dictate and they would obey.
Either that or they would either overthrown by their own people or starve to death.
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>>160498455
Ainz should us the item like he does in the WN.

He looks really badass with them.
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>>160498413
You're missing the point too: Lizardmen, Carne, Empire and Renner are small fries when faced with might of Nazarick.
Whichever pieces Ainz had managed to take off the board by now - do not really matter.
If Maruyama said that entire NW working together can contain Nazarick - nothing of matter changed about that fact still.
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>>160498535
>Dwarven
fix
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>>160498344
>Ainz himself commented how solid rock and wood walls of Fake Nazarick Aura is building are akin to paper when faced with offensive magic.
He was comparing it with 100levels players. 99% of the NW might not even break Aura castle defense. Especially now that Ainz decided to buff it up with defense spells instead using it as bait for enemies.
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>>160498535
>He is already all but demolished Dwarfen and Re-Estize economy.
They did that to themselves.
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>>160498455
>grant to someone to level them up.
>lvl 100 CATCLEM
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After going to sleep tonight, you awaken in Momonga's body after the translation to the New World.

What to do?
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>>160498555
All you gotta do now is prove the remaining parts of the world can. But you can't.
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>>160498606
Probably the same thing Momonga did. Secure my position in the world. And DEFINITELY GET DEMIURGE TO WORKING ON RESTORING MY PLUMBING.

>>160498592
I wonder what she could do at level 100?
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>>160498576
>99% of the NW might not even break Aura castle defense
Refer to >>160498555
>>160498623
I've already proven it.
>Whichever pieces Ainz had managed to take off the board by now - do not really matter.
Current Ainz allies are shit-tier compared to Nazarick.
People and organizations that Ainz destroyed or took over up to date are all shit-tier compared to Nazarick too.

Meaning whatever is the core of NW force, said by author to be able to contain Nazarick, is still active.
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>>160498736
>I've proven it with headcanon!
Sure showed me.
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>>160498320
>weakness to Shalltear
What do you mean, what weakness?
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>>160498705
>I wonder what she could do at level 100?
Probably massive criticals and defense penetration skills.
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>>160498555
>>160498736
Can you at least provide when it was stated that?
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>>160498344
Looking at the map, Ainz can now go mess with Slain or the Dragonic kingdom after Re-Estize. Dealing with Holy kingdom which is a bit far should be difficult though, but this is definitely all part of his plan.
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>>160498779
It's listed in the wikipedia he could be defeated by Shalltear.
>http://overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/Deep_Darkness_Dragon_Lord
But the source isn't clear.

>>160498797
Surely that couldn't be all?
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>>160498773
>All NW combined can contain Nazarick
>Vol6, Vol9 and Vol11 explicitly demonstrated that zergrush of trash-tier units are useless against higher level opponents
>Current SKAOG allies are nowhere near to pose a threat to Nazarick
>Individuals killed and organizations dismantled by Ainz so far are nowhere near to pose a threat to Nazarick

Therefore whatever can keep Nazarick in is still capable of doing it.
Peaces taken off the board ar all trash tier and do not matter.
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>>160498705
Who would you bone first?

>>160498851
The source it's this. Although it just says that the only guardians that wouldn't be instantly defeated by him are Shalltear and Gargantua.

So, it either uses instant-death, poison or mind control.
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>>160498555
>If Maruyama said that entire NW working together can contain Nazarick
Except that is no longer the case. Not to mention some parts of the world won't ally no matter what. Like the beast kingdom and the dragon loli queen kingdom.
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>>160498924
>muh headcanon is correct!
Then why did he say, "The entire world?"

Checkmate.
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>>160498578
Yes but Dwarven economy theoretically used to have a chance. Now it's total FUBAR.
It would be hilarious if some independent fraction in Re-Estize would voluntarily overthrow the government to invite Ainz as an external management to avoid inevitable famine while Albedo and Demiurge busy plotting their Casus Belli, though.
>>160498945
>So, it either uses instant-death, poison or mind control.
...or he is a necrophiliac lolicon and Gargantua is just too beefy and tough to be killed quickly.
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>>160498835
Stated what?
Citation about NW being able to contain Nazarick is hardly reliable as a canon: it comes from Author twitter.
>>160498839
>Slain
Ainz is wary of them and will probably leave them be for now.
>Dragonic kingdom
Beastmen will probably reach Baharuth Empire borders at some point, Jircniv will casually complain to Ainz, prompting a full-force punitive force that'll wipe decimate the beastmen and enslave survivors.
That is if beastmen are not led by Player.
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>>160498945
>Who would you bone first?
Tough call. But I'd probably have Albedo in my bed all the time, so probably her. Then I'd have an extra with us frequently and slowly rotate my way through all of the women in Nazarick. Except Nuronist.
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>>160498851
>Surely that couldn't be all?
Well, she's one-hit, one-kill type of runner's build, so I guess shit like FTL movement speed is expected.
Maybe feline "9 Lives" skill?
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>>160498344
Nah,is no longer possible.
The NW people lost their last chance the moment Ainz founded a kingdom on the continent.
Author said it need every singe being/race on the planet to contain Ainz in his tomb if he was just transported to the NW. Because back then he is clueless about the NW, no allies and no way to resupply. It they attack him that moment Ainz would have been powerless to venture outside and be stuck inside his tomb watching his supplies dwindle fighting his enemies. Which is no longer possible now that Ainz took root already in many places. He already harvesting resources he need to support his kingdom. All he had to do is earn money and summon 80+ monsters from his library.

And it is no even remotely possible for such a thing to happen. Every races hate each other and some are even killing their own kind. It would be a bloody miracle to even unite 10% of the world population against Ainz.
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>>160499175
>Turns out after her last defeat she gets a fetish for hugs.
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>>160499096
Then link the tweet or you are just bullshitting. Because the last interview had him saying that he hadn't planned anything on the bigger world aside from having a big ass battle at some point, not even decided their levels.

>Interviewer: How much of the world have you planned out?
>Maruyama: If you’re talking about the entire world setting, it's a bit up in the air. I have some vague ideas floating around, for example; there are multiple countries in the middle of the continent, and they will eventually make an alliance and will fight against the floor guardians in a huge war. And the reason for making Gargantua is to make it fight a company of golem cavalry. So, I haven't made detailed settings for every country on the continent and who lives there and what level they are. But I have thought of settings for the characters that I plan to write in Overlord. Like who existed before. It lacks depth if it doesn't have those settings. I like TRPG's so I try to put those details in when I can.
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>>160498952
>Except that is no longer the case.
It's still the case.
Missing parts are trash tier.
>world won't ally no matter what.
That's why it's all theoretical.

It does tell us that some forces in NW can be quite dangerous to Nazarick, at least for it's outside operations.
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>>160498997
>"The entire world?"
"The entire world?" minus the parts removed by Ainz so far is still "The entire world".
Because parts removed are weak and do not matter.
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>>160499096
>Turns out the beastmen were lead by a guildmember of Nazarick who showed up earlier than Ainz because of time fuckery.
>Ainz: Yo, let's team up. Don't eat any humans though.
>Player: k
Jircniv would start shitting his pants.
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>>160498402
>The Eight Greed Kings already exterminated the most powerful race in the world and conquered the continent without opposition

The NW didn't have the Yggdrasil system back then, they do now.

>>160498952
This part of the world is low tier garbage, it has no effect in the long run.
Beastman are lv 20 or so and humans should have went extinct already if not for 8GK.

>>160498997
If aliens showed up and the entire world fought it, how much would african tribes contribute? same scenario.
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>>160499257
>>160499309

>The missing parts don't matter!
I'm doing being baited by you.
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>>160499309
>how much would african tribes contribute?
They can kill them with AIDS.
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>>160499309
>implying you can't put a gun in an African's hand and point him in the right direction
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>>160499309
>The NW didn't have the Yggdrasil system back then, they do now.
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>>160499309
>Beastman are lv 20 or so and humans should have went extinct already if not for 8GK.
It is also said that beastmen levels are not equal to human levels.
I suspect "human levels" are job levels and "beastmen levels" are racial levels, similar to Yggdrasil.
Job levels give versatility and wide repertoire of skills while racial levels give more stats, making average beastmen stronger than average human.
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>>160499421
History shows that they will still need white commanders.
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>>160499436
He's right.
Tiered magic corruption was not instant, but gradual.
Simply put when 6GG arrived there were no tiered magic available for plebs for a while.
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>>160499494
I fail to see how that is relevant. Natives are shit-tier if Evileye was considered strong among the Thirteen Heroes and the level 85 tree was a world threat.

That would be worse, because they have a system when they can't get min/maxed stuff like Ainz and his NPCs have due to item and special condition restrictions, instead of using out of context stuff.
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>>160498736
>Meaning whatever is the core of NW force, said by author to be able to contain Nazarick, is still active
I think you got it wrong. Author meant using the NW forces to block the entrance in the beginning and using numbers to contain Ainz inside his tomb. And i mean the whole population. Even Ainz forces can't fight a few billions combine forces blocking the entrance. Especially not the very moment he was just transported. He was still very confuse that moment.
The setting was: if ST or PDL has use their brains and announce at the beginning of the novel to the world that gods would descent every 100year and ask the world to unite and fight for the survival,then Ainz would have never be able to start his conquest plan. You should know that Ainz in v1 is still a confuse rookie leading the guild and is scared of the outside world. He would have even consider surrender and peace that moment if the NW forces attack him right then and there.
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>>160499207
>Can't get off unless her ribs being crushed
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>>160499645
>It was the first time in her life truly had an orgasm and now, instead of getting excited by killing she gets excited by being killed or nearly so.
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>>160499589
That's not even counting they get level 30 POPs for free in Nazarick.
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>>160499617
I doubt that even a wall of corpses would do something against high-tier magic. It might have scared Ainz... Until he saw that the Old Guarders were cutting knight armor like it was made of paper.
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>>160499749
That's if he didn't pull a, "I have to prove myself as a leader!" And then go outside and nuke everyone personally with a Dark Young spell.
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>>160499589
It is relevant because WIld Magic was more powerful back then, then it was corrupted by Tiered Magic.
>>160499617
Eh, maybe.
>>160499749
They probably have some tricky Wild Magic and Talent abilities that Ainz would not be able to defend from right after transfer.
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>>160499814
>Holding staff of Ainz Ooal Gown.
>Casts Dark Young.
How fucked would the world be? Hundreds of thousands, maybe more, dead on the initial casting. Then hundreds of Dark Young just wrecking shit.
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>>160499096
>Jircniv will casually complain to Ainz
He wouldn't. He had learned his lesson after asking for help on Katze Plains.
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>>160499096
My prediction:
>DK get destroyed.
>Dragon queen and her remaining people fled to the Katze plains
>Ainz decided to take over the kate plains and find that flying dutchman lich.
>Ainz meet starving refugees of the DK
>Ainz took them into his kingdom. Queen beg him to conquer back her land in return for becoming a vassal state.
>Ainz send troops. Death and soul eaters rain hell upon the beast man. They too surrender. >Got 2 vassal state at the end.

Is already been 2 years since the beast man invaded DK at the end of v11. No way they could have lasted that long. The first year they even lost a few cities and according to the map her kingdom is not that big anyway.
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>>160499872
>Cooldown is complete before the first Dark Young spell is even finished with their rampage.
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>>160499915
Well he asked him to use his best spell. He could ask him to just help a little.
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>>160500044
I get the feeling Jircniv wouldn't care if Ainz went all out against the Beastmen.
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>>160499915
>AInz sends a detail of DK and Liches as a security force to Baharuth Empire
>Tasks them with defending the border, upholding the public order etc.
>One of the DK starts skirmishing with Beastmen on the border with Dragonic Kingdom
>Ainz gets annoyed at constant "Red Alert" fighting signal over summoner's link
>Orders DK to deal with the problem and eliminate attackers once and for all
>Say no more
>Sole DK goes on offensive painting Dragonic Kingdom red in Beastmen blood
>Overwhelmed by Zombies beastmen are fight to the teeth until all of them are eliminated on the eastern shore of Dragonic kingdom
>DK tidies up the Zombie Slaves and goes back to guard Baharuth border
>Jircniv and Dragon queen are both balding considerably faster now
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>>160500172
>Say no more
I laughed because I just imagined a DK growling/roaring and the subtitles displaying this, with a DK running off into the distance at top speed.
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>>160499872
I think the area isn't that big to ever get more than a dozen unless you did a literal sacrificial mountain.

Still, the staff of AoG means Primal Fire Elementals. Which means that everything low-leveled gets instantly incinerated by it just by being near.
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>>160500263
>unless you did a literal sacrificial mountain.
That's what it would take to keep them in the tomb, though.
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>>160500044
His people had got a severe PTSD after that.
I really doubt that he would ask for any sort of direct military assistance unless driven into the corner.
>>160500108
The problem is that he would probably consider asking for assistance after his forces had encountered the Beastmen, and after the last time, his troops had got terribly traumatized after witnessing the event.
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>>160500301
>unless driven into the corner.
We both know he will be, by his own design and Ainz's luck.

>Demiurge: Sasuga, Ainz-sama! Even I couldn't have predicted things would fall into place so quickly!
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>>160499617
A billion fodder does nothing, the NW has forces that can stalemate the wci, rubedo and garguanta, that alone is huge.
maybe we'll see them when we head to NW equivalent of russia and america.
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>>160500613
There's been a dozen volumes. Ainz hasn't encountered a single serious threat, except a mind-controlled Shalltear, and he already has counter-measures in place.

I seriously doubt one is going to pop up now.
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>>160500613
>russia
>basically a third wolrd dictatorship with nukes, horrible corruption and dead industry
>still considered by western anons one of the mightiest countries IRL
I don't know if I should be sad or happy.

But I get the idea: areas around Nazarick are supposed to be pretty low-tier.
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>>160500696
We've heard rumors about lot of demi-human and heteromorph civilizations to the North of currently described region.
>Troll kingdom
>Goblin Kingdom
>Republic
>City States
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The twins: a shotacon and a lesbian.Wonder what their third sister fetish is
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>>160500879
A mommy type.
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>>160500879
>lesbian
What?
Aura is straight.
With a pinch of bestiality.
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>>160500751
>Troll Kingdom
Probably still shit. All the demihumans (minus goblings) are stronger than humans, but even being 10 or 20 times stronger on average amounts nothing against Ainz mob undead.

>>160500613
Nothing has been stated to stalemate Rubedo aside from 8th level guys with WCIs.

>>160498606
Send Demiurge in Sebas place and Sebas as Momon adventurer. Use PA a lot more to make up for Demiurge being outside of Nazarick.
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>>160489500
>>160489535
That looks like they are not planning to kill Zannack.
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>>160501805
Eh, he's mildly competent, with Renner's solid grip on the crown - there would be no need to kill the fatty.
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>>160498293
In the WN he was using a WCI that held all the bonus experience he got from that.
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>>160500696
Staying hidden was the point of 8 volumes.

>>160500713
What monsters would rule russia? owlbears?
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>>160501996
Bipedal Bears, Frost Giants, Centaurs, Tusk Beastmen, some sort of angry hairy monkeys.
Russia should be multinational even in Isekai.
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>>160501996
The real issue is whether or not Baba Yaga and Koshkei are in the setting.
Baba Yaga is generally known to be a planeswalker so she is a ridiculously larger threat than almost everything in NotRussia while being able to escape at any time.
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>>160502377
Koshkei is literally Voldemort-tier immortal.
Baba Yaga runs on kids like car on gasoline though, you hide the kids - you win.
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>>160502468
Nah. 3.5/Pathfinder baba is worse. The kids thing is for fun/meals. She basically can hand out wci
or near equivalents like crack. In the ebberon setting her daughters got a hold of an artifact with the aoe property of "humanbane"
Basically this meant that if anything within the several hundred mile range of that thing got so much of a scratch and was classified as human in any way( eg half elves) they would outright die.
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So when Ainz decides to sire an heir, will it just be the mother's race? I have a hard seeing Albedo just shitting out a skeleton fetus, and a half-overlord half-whatever his first baby factory is seems like a pretty silly development.
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>>160501996
>What monsters would rule russia? owlbears?
Are you implying that Mare would rule NW Russia?
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>>160495502
Albedo callings.
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>>160502908
>Druidzilla Trap
>Sleeps half the time
Seems close enough
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>>160501005
Blue Rose twins you numbskull
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>>160503719
>Too old
Oh.
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>>160502852
>So when Ainz decides to sire an heir, will it just be the mother's race?
I think he needs to polymorph into someone capable siring the heir first.
Hence the race of the hybrid would be Polymorph x Mother.
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>>160503824
>Sprites, Nymphs, Dryads, Dragons
Literally W H O R E S
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where do i find the translations in pdf format?
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>>160504266
No Yen Press.
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>>160503824
Ainz needs to polymorph into a Dragon.
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>>160503824
So that's why Sebas is so horny all the time.
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>>160502687
>3.5/Pathfinder bab
Sounds a lot like a Ravel Puzellwell. Fuck.
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>>160504821
>Ravel Puzzlewell
fix
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>>160501005
>With a pinch of bestiality
Too young wait till she first discovers sex, though I just want to see her get SPIRAL'D by Peroronchino, will C92 finally delivery? how do I commission TenzenMiyabi?
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>>160504964
>Aura
>SPIRAL'D by Peroronchino
Will she resist?
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>>160504817
Author probably just got tired of him. Give him a bitch and let him fuck off.
Is 100% Demi plan to give Sebas something to do instead staying at Ainz side the whole time.

Btw,i wonder if those 3 mothers dragon are gonna get banged by Mare dragons.
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>>160503824
>gobs, orges and orcs can't impregnate elves
>no magical skeletons or undead mentioned

Shit list, good thing we have demi and his farm to save crossbreeding.
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What are the chances Ainz is gonna purgel the nobles in the kingdom like what Jerky did?
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>>160505459
If they give him a reason to they will. Remember, Albedo is currently looking for a casus belli and working with Renner, who would be more than happy to sell them down the river.
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>>160504964
Aura is evil, though. Not a fluffy pretend-evil-antivillain, but actually evil.
I doubt that fucking someone would affect her personality to any meaningful degree, maybe even not at all.
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>>160505647
>Aura
>Evil
She's just -100.
It's probably better than most anons here.
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>>160505776
>Elf ears
>Human race

What
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>>160505647
Posting this image was rather rude of me.
>>160505776
It's based on observations. The worst so far was genocide as a first option.
>It's probably better than most anons here.
I won't argue that one.
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>>160505939
It was probably meant humanoid or anthropomorphic.
>>160505946
>The worst so far was genocide as a first option.
Quagoa are shit minions though.
Arrogant and rebellious.
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>>160505776
>alignments

She chose to kill the weasel demons in cold blood, she's worse than demiurge at least he takes his role seriously.
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>>160505939
In Yggdrasil "human" means "humanoid" and it applied to humans and all near-human races, like elves and dwarves. Demi-humans applied to orcs and sufficiently different races. Then there were heteromorphs like dragons, etc.
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>>160506036
>heteromorphs
Did you mean grotesques anon?
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>>160505946
>The worst so far was genocide as a first option.
Well it ended up being the best option. Or else these people would always bear a plan on how to rebel and overthrow their superior while licking it's butt like with the dragons. They're barely intelligent anyway.
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>>160506118
Sure, why not?
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>>160506036
>Elves and Dwarves get labeled humans
>Orcs get labeled demi-humans

That's racist. I propose we wipe out civilization Ainz-sama.
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>>160506004
>Quagoa are shit minions though.
True, but still it was against the spirit of the order.
She has gone an extra mile to slaughter these fuckers. And she is obviously not simple-minded like Chair, it was intentional.
>>160506141
>Well it ended up being the best option
Correct. But it means that her behavior was caused either by inner malevolence or by the ruthless pragmatism.
Both options do not indicate "rainbows and flowers" personality.
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>>160506141
>overthrow their superior
How strong would Quagoa children grow if they eat Ainz rare metals and Rubedo?
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>>160506474
>Both options do not indicate "rainbows and flowers" personality.
She did order them to surrender though.
They disobeyed and she would have none of that shit.
Ainz should know better than to send -100 and -500 aligmnent NPC for subjucation tasks, BUT his order did contain the genocide option to begin with.
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>>160506517
A wild guess around lvl 30-35 maybe.
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>>160506474
>Both options do not indicate "rainbows and flowers" personality.
Yes? And? She wouldn't do anything to harm Nazarick or disobey Ainz, even if she like skinning animals (alive or otherwise).
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>>160505647
>>160505776
>>160506474
>Aura is evil
Would loving sex for the purpose of love with Ainz turn her into a better and more fulfilled person?
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>>160506631
Bone would even make Albedo into an angel anon.
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>>160506474
>Correct. But it means that her behavior was caused either by inner malevolence or by the ruthless pragmatism.
>Both options do not indicate "rainbows and flowers" personality.
Excuse me? Are we still talking about an evil OP overlord with an army of monsters and human farms?
And they DID give them a chance to surrender not their problems that they happen to be to slow/stupid to use it.
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>>160506696
>Ainz: Alebedo...
>Albedo: Yes, Ainz-sama?!
>Ainz: I have a rather... complicated question.
>Albedo: ARE YOU GOING TO ASK ME TO MARRY YO--
>Ainz: Something before that.
>Albedo: O-oh. What is it, Ainz-sama?
>Ainz: Would you turn to good if I boned you?
>*instant alignment change Lawful Good +1000 Karma*
>Albedo: I'm still willing to lose a few hundred Karma for it.
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>>160506797
>loses all Blackguard levels
>half the tank she was
>lying a sloppy mess after a bone on the floor
>Albedo: "Still worth it"
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>>160506517
They would be the fighters worthy of Ainzjugend, of course.
>>160506572
>She did order them to surrender though.
She was ordered to do so. Still, she had done the sloppiest job she can while negotiating.
>>160506620
I never said or implied that she is not loyal. My only point was that she is evil. Maybe my ESL-ness prevents me from getting through.
Ok, here is the thought experiment. Imagine Cocytus, Sebas, Albedo, and Demiurge at her place.
Which negotiation pattern would be closer to Aura's?
>>160506631
She seems pretty fulfilled and stable as it is. She would probably be lording over Chair and Albedo, though. It would end in a foursome.
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>>160506696
>>160506797
>Everytime Ainz bones her she opens a new orphanage/hospital
>She's always in such a good mood that acts benevolent to all the citizens and everyone loves her
>Comes to be known as the Benevolent Queen who keeps the Evil King in check
Sazuga Ainz-sama, could Albedo play Renners good mother antics in exchange for Ainz boning her?
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>>160507137
>Could Albedo do X in exchange for Ainz boning her?
>where X is literally anything
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>>160507045
>Which negotiation pattern would be closer to Aura's?
She doesn't care about politics. She's busy stuffing her face with snacks.
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>>160507045
>Which negotiation pattern would be closer to Aura's?
Everyones except Sebas 'cause he's an autistic paladin or some shit.
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>>160507192
And anything literally means anything.
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>>160507045
>Which negotiation pattern would be closer to Aura's?
Probably Cocytus.
He'll offer Quagoa to surrender once then fuck their shit up until nothing is left.
They're not honorabru like lizards, so no getting of the Cocytus train for them.
>Albedo, Demiurge
Smart enough to understand Ainz's intent.
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>>160481676
I want to rub Aura's belly!
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>>160507192
>Ainz: Albedo, Shalltear, the only way you get the bone is if you become best friends and lovers..because I love threesomes
What now? no way Albedo would kiss that rotten corpse.
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>>160507023
>Ainz: Albedo.
>Albedo: Yes, Ainz-sama?
>Ainz: I'm a little worried.
>Albedo: Tell me what it is! I'll fix it! Even if I have to kill myself to do it!
>Ainz: You've lost a lot of levels, Albedo. Nazarick needs you to be at level 100 again.
>Albedo: I-I s-see. It co-could take some t-time.
>Ainz: I'll bone you again once you do.
>Albedo: I'll be back in five minutes.
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>>160484191
>Renner-sama
>Climb-kun
>Renner-sama!
>Climb-kun!!!!
can't wait.
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>>160507403
She's already agreed to the idea in a Drama CD. Hell it was HER idea.
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>>160507464
More like:
>Renner-sama!!!
>Get in the cage, Climb-kun.
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>>160507424
>TWO minutes later...
>Albedo: I'M HERE TO CLAIM WHAT'S MINE, AINZ-SAMA!
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>>160506789
Yes, we are. My point is that she is not exactly the pure maiden. Growing up would not change her that much.
>>160507206
Nah, it was Ainz's order. It's a priority zero, everything else can go to hell.
>>160507369
>Smart enough to understand Ainz's intent.
The thing is, Aura probably had managed to guess it as well, at least to some extent. She just had chosen to interpret it the way she wanted, because it was still in a scope of the order.
She is neither simple-minded like Chair or honour-bound like Cocytus.
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>>160507562
After getting in the cage:

>Renner-sama
>Climb-kun
>Renner-sama!
>Climb-kun!!!!
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>>160507727
Wait a minute... I've seen this movie before...
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>>160507568
>Ainz: A-Albedo... ho-how...?!
>Albedo: LESS TALK MORE BONING, AINZ-SAMA!
In order to level up to 100 again in such a short time Albedo slaughtered the entire continent. She reverted back to evil.
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>>160507568
nani
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Would Shalltear become Aura's servant for all eternity to get the BONE?
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>>160508124
Yes. If it was the only way. She wouldn't even consider it a sacrifice.
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I just watched the anime for the first time. While there are some good ideas and interesting designs, I still can't be satisfied by that series.

The premise is interesting and full of potential, but the execution is a bit jarring. Ainz is stronger than everyone, he has a basically limitless number of god-tier magic and legendary items, no one is even a threat for him, except Shalltear late in the series, and he's easily outwitting her.

So, where's the tension ? I came to see an Isekai show, where a real-world human would be cast in a fictional world and experience all the good and the bad it has to offer, but unlike other Isekai shows, this time the human has a whole dungeon worth of loyal NPCs with him. It got very promising around episodes 3-4 when Ainz interacted with Carne village for the first time. I hoped the series would delve into politics and strategy, but as soon as Ainz rofsltomped the bad guys, the series took a turn for the worse. First, there was that retarded DnD arc, and then the underwhelming Shalltear arc. It feels like the series isn't going anywhere, and has no consistent plot.

I haven't read the LNs. Will the second season be good ?
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>>160508161
>So, where's the tension ?
>I want template seinen
>Post#14312412
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>>160508161
It's basically like One Punch Man.
It's more about the effects Ainz's existence has on the secondary characters.
Other than that, it caters to evil empire building power fantasy.
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>>160508161
It's basically a soap opera with NotTheGrimReaper as the MC. Just run with it.
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>>160508161
The first volumes, and consequently season, are really about setting everything up lore wise and Ainz testing the waters of the new world. The reason there isn't any real tension is because he isn't the kind of idiot to run headfirst into trouble without extensively preparing for it. It can be boring, but I think it's nice to have a calm and pragmatic protagonist who's goal is to effectively survive in a new world while also protecting the legacy he came with. Also what >>160508292 said. Ainz is like a force of nature and the series makes a real effort to show how his actions affect others.

S2 will probably be good as long as they don't take more than 2, or 3 at the max, episodes to do the lizardman arc.
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>>160508637
>It can be boring...
I didn't see it that way.
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>>160508161
>where's the tension ?
Why do you need it ? It's way better this way. Overlord is around Ainz sasugas and his interaction with the NW, not the fact that he does not have a threat. Since you are a Anime only fag, you can't see what the LN is about. You get to see almost nothing of Ainz internal struggle or the thoughts of anyone for that matter.
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>>160506696
>into an angel
Is this why Crusch wanted the bone? If sex with Ainz turns you into a good person what does sex with Ulbert or Peroronchino turn you into?
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>>160508717
It has made reading about future encounters slightly more dull for me. Reading about Ainz's multiple plans and contingencies for dealing with certain enemies or entities, only to see them get btfo with some basic level shit from ygg is draining after a while. I want to see him actually have to use plan b's and c's more often. I don't want to see him needlessly fighting tooth and nail becasue of an ass-pull or something, but it would be nice if he was surprised and caught off guard more often. It was an extremely pleasant surprise to see him lose his cool at Lupusregina over her mistake, for example.
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>>160508161
Well, it's not immediately apparent, but most of the volumes are the classic Greek tragedy told from the POV of gods.
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>>160509017
If Ainz has a sorcerer-like class at his base instead of a wizard, it would mean that his CHA is through the roof.
Suddenly it makes all his successful negotiations seem plausible.
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>>160502468
>Koshkei is literally Voldemort-tier immortal
>Voldemort-tier immortal
>immortal
Once you learn their secret a spread it they are fucked.
And Voldermort had like what 7? 8? of those horn-something Koshkei just stuffed his heart into animals and buried it on random island.
I wouldn't call that immortality.
Someone on Darth Sion level can be called immortal.
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>>160498606
It took me some time, but I put together a comprehensive answer to your question.

>WAKE UP AS AINZ FANFIC V1.0
https://pastebin.com/WgcBv8kD
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>>160509987
>forgot to add the part about mining asteroids
>to buy armies of mercs to counter any future Player issues
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>elves with maimed ears
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>>160509987
>Humanely farmed for their skin

Demiurge, there is nothing humane in skinning sapient beings.
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>>160509987
As someone who lives in ME, it's funny how close this hit home.
How long do you think this should take?
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>>160511674
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>>160511835
About 9 more volumes I guess?
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>>160511674
Are Baharuth slave elves now free?
With Empire being SKAOG vassal state and all.
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>>160508161
>lv100 in a lv 20 zone
>strategy

All you're getting is sasugas and ainz winning until a sequel novel is made.
2nd season should be better since they had OPM to do and they didn't give fuck anymore after ep 10, even skipping nigredo and the adventure guild scenes.
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>>160512572
>sequel novel
>2nd season
>vol 12 in August
Why do you do this to me?
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>>160512262
>Baharuth slave elves
>Jircniv tries to start a friendship with Aura and Mare sends over some slave elves
>Ainz: this elf looks like... AKEMI!!?
>Jircniv found Akemis grand grand grand grandkid
>Ainz: Jircniv I dont know how could I ever repay you, since now I'll grant you immortality and I'll help you rule your Kingdom for all eternity, how's that?
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>>160512772
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Didn't AOG keep tabs on rival guilds and their arsenal of WCI?
Shouldn't Ainz be able to pinpoint what guild or clan 6GG were part of?
Having flying castle for a base also should give a hint towards 8GK.
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>Goblins
>They were evil-looking monsters, born of the mating of human and apes
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>>160513466
https://youtu.be/9kAEoCHANYY
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>>160513040
Probably Pupito Moe or any of the intel guys did that. Once Ainz was alone, he had little reason to do so.
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>>160513466
Would Goblin Slayer stop his life quest if he came to Carne Village? Could he and Ainz be good friends?
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>whole NW can contain Nazarick
>some NW residents died, so not enough ppl now
>some say these losses are irrelevant because they are weak = no impact

I think author said WHOLE world because everybody there is relevant, but u guys are right that they wouldnt do much by fighting. But if u use them in massive sacrificial-spell of Wild Magic then their contribiution could make difference.
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>>160514820
>Carne
>"There is no such thing as good goblin."
>Ainz
>"You're not a goblin, don't stand in my way."
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>>160514847
>1 DL uses whole world population to seal Nazarick forever
>Victory!
>Enjoys eternity alone
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>>160513466
>human and apes
So humans in this world can mate with animals?
>>160501005
Could Aura and Fenrir have offsprings?
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>>160515014
>So humans in this world can mate with animals?
That is probably just a folklore citation and goblins are actually a separate species.
Demiurge would've known if humans and other demi-humans can crossbreed easily.
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>>160515014
>Could Aura and Fenrir have offsprings?
>Furry elf
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>>160515114
Results in the farm should be showing soon. Demiurge is really kind to allow humans and demi-humans show the fruit of their union.
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>>160515233
Just wait until Ainz learns about true nature of Happy Farm.
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>>160497765
>>160497877
>>160497981
I don't believe Ainz got EXP from that battle as he was using Mare to siphon it all into the gloves for later use.
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>Ainz had used a racial skill called Dark Wisdom to perform a rite which increased the number of spells he knew.
>Could I learn spells that weren’t in Yggdrasil by making a live sacrifice?
Why didn't Ainz verified this yet?
Surely he has one or two captive Magic Casters that know NW-specific spells.
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>>160515352
>Ainz does the killing
>Gloves are equipped by Mare
How do they even work?
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>>160498334
>>160498535
He's already going to be loved by the villages as he's already implementing taxes, probably at a lower rate than the previous leader and doesn't matter what they give him, because he's just planning on funneling it all into the shredder to refill NW coins.
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>>160515303
>Ainz: Demiurge... w-what is... is that a baby?
>Demiurge: yes Ainz-sama, its the fruit of my research. *presents half-demon human baby*
>Ainz holds it and his paternal instincts come out
>Ainz: Umu, you can continue but you must send them to Yuri and raise them in the orphanage, understood?
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>>160515401
How do any of the WCI work? IT's probably easy that they just passively steal any exp earned by anyone in the area. Which at a WCI level is relatively tame, but depending on how you use it, you could store a fuckton of EXP in it from everyone, including maxed out clanmates and use it to offload tons of EXP costing abilities.
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>>160515213
Basically Momiji with long ass elf ears.
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>>160515667
That could work.
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Were Demon Gods 8GK NPC, agonizing over their masters death, on a crusade against NW or just plain heteromorphic mid-lvl Players killing shit for experience by the habit?
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>>160513466
so mulattoes?
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>>160515806
By this chart >>160503824 ElfxFiend its possible so Aura could get a litter of Hellhounds (pic related) in her belly, Fenrir is another matter since he's a magical beast (?).
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>>160515902
Thinking about Demon Gods and 13 Heroes More:
>Demon Gods were mid-lvl Players
>Who had shit they valued IRL and was angry they were transfered to NW
>Or they thought it's just a VR kidnapping and decided to wreck havoc to ruin Administrators plans
>Or they thought it's some sort of bonus stage for those who left at the end of Yggdrasil services and were just killing shit for EXP and drops
>If Demon Gods were Players - they were likely not connected to each other and got transferred to NW separately
>13 Heroes recognized that NW is real and stepped in to stop the suffering of local inhabitants by organizing punitive force to subjugate Demon Gods
>13 Heroes felt shitty after slaying so many Players and suicided
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>>160496659
Season 2 coming out soon genius.
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>>160512262
That what i am wondering too. What would happen to all those slaves? And the gladiators(slaves that were suppose to die fighting each other)
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>>160481676
But you are, anon
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>>160481676
That looks like official art. What is it from?
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>>160516897
They will become extremists and start blowing stuff, till Mare becomes King of all Elvenhood and reforms the Elf Kingdom..
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>>160497245
Touch me looks fucking terrifying there.
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>>160516265
In your dream. Those were probably pop up monster. Because all they knew to do was was destruction. Ended up in the NW and still continue their setting of attacking everything as that was in their program.
13 heroes: 1 of the probably got drunk on power and decided to rule the world seeing they were the strongest in the world after saving the world. The other one trying to be a moral fag and both end up killing each other. The moral fag could not stand it anymore,because of the war,the killings,the NW and miss his old world. Mind breaks and refuse resurrection.
That's how i think i went down
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>>160517026
So-bin twitter. Same with Clem
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>>160517045
I don't think that there were only elves. Elves slaves are rare. What about the other races?
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>>160517147
Maybe, a guy like that would probably end up being an eyesore to Ainz, but I think Ainz will try to resurrect everyone so he can interrogate/read their minds and kill them afterwards.
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>>160497446
>Reason why Ainz uses the gaudy fuckhuge pauldron robe is because it camouflages his WCI
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>>160515401
Party members share XP
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>>160497656
>Not feasible
It is, you can't not earn XP in Yggdrasil, at very minimum you'll always earn 1 xp.
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>>160517147
>Ended up in the NW and still continue their setting of attacking everything as that was in their program.
Seems plausible.
Evil Tree seems to be Yggdrasil Monster that Ainz was not aware of.
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>>160517076
>Top Ten of Yggdrasil Players
You should be afraid.
Very afraid.
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>>160516887
>Season 2 coming out soon
But where are info?
Commercials maybe?
There is nothing.
>>160517327
Ever the tactician.
>>160517354
With FF on I doubt "Party" is such an easy concept.
But Gazef did transfer along with his troop in Carne Village battle, so it should work in some form.
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>>160517420
But even then Yggdrasil lvl cap was at 100.
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>>160517748
There were mobs over leveled in YGG.
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>>160517810
So? Player level cap was still at 100lvl.
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>>160517615
It mutated. It was good in the beginning
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It takes so long rip 1 month per chapter
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>>160517283
The thing is,no player in their right mind would try to fight against AOG in there still any alive out there.

PDL:heroes,please help us fight against the invaders
Players:alright! Who are we up against?
PDL: a guy that called himself AOG
Players:....... you guys are screwed. They are infamous for killing other players.Good luck to you and time for me go back into hiding.
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>>160518365
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>>160497381
There were several ongoing experiments seeing if the NPCs could learn and adapt over their "programming". This is one of them.
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Ainz has a smith in his guild. Wonder what kind a race it would be. It can't be dwarf because then he would have brought the smith with him to the dwarf kingdom.
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>>160499494
>Gradual
Bitch it was instant, 8GK used a WCI to jump start the world with Yggdrasil magic, hell it's the reason why DLs were so weak since they got bitchslaped down a few floors when their magic got nerfed.
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>>160518808
Nice headcanon.
Also 6GG were first in NW.
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>>160518588
Cyclops?
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Question about the 20 WCI
If someone use it,would it reappear somewhere again in the NW or would it be transported back into the game world.
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>>160519045
I'd think that it would reappear somewhere in NW seeing how NWers can use them and all.
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>>160503719
They're triplets not twins you numbskull.
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I am conflicted between the choice of Fluder being loyal servant or turning into a lich to become even more loyal.
BTW,if he manage to turn into a lich,would his level be at 30 or 50+?
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>>160518365
>Implying PDL wouldn't be their pet
>Implying they aren't some of the top 5 guilds
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>>160519045
It reappears in the NW, so you could assume all of the 20 are somewhere in the NW (this is headcannon),
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>>160518884
>Also 6GG were first in NW.
Nice headcanon.
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>>160519188
>if he manage to turn into a lich
If he turns into a lich not by power of race change item but by "natural" ritual - his level won't be capped by Yggdrasil rules, he'd be a "wild" lich who can advance it's powerlevel through learning spells, researching magic and killing shit.
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If Dragon Emperor is one world enemy, should there be more. Or only himself ? Or are there eight other worlds ?
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>>160519417
>6GG 600 years ago
>8GK 500 years ago
>http://overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
Anon, you dumb.
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>>160519591
Damn you are dumb, but take this reply anyway.
>Implying there inst someone older than 6GG
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>>160519561
>PDL is last surviving child of Dragon Emperor
We don't even know if big lizard is still alive or not.
Considering how alien is Wild Magic to Yggdrasil and how fervently Dragon Lords fought 8GK - Dragon Emperor have nothing to do with Yggdrasil.
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>>160519678
The other big DL are also his sons, aren't they ?
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>>160519654
Dragon Lords did not fight 6GG, they probably minded their own business in a small corner of the world while 8GK, who arrived later, swung their raging murderboner across the continent, trying to establish domination over it.

We don't know at which point Tiered Magic started corrupting New World.
Given that DLs weren't hostile towards 6GG - they shouldn't be the one to force Tiered Magic onto NW.
But at the same time they should've been able to use Yggdrasil magic and skills themselves otherwise they wouldn't be able to raise living standard of humies and be revered as Gods.

Were there players before 6GG?
Unknown.

Therefore it's safe to assume that corruption of Wild Magic was gradual and it's 8GK behavior that prompted a violent response from DLs, not the use of WCI.
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>>160519705
The other big DL are mostly dead, PDL is last son of Dragon Emperor.
Other DL are probably not direct descendants.
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>>160519045
Also note: there were more than 20 WCI. However there were a set of 20 that were gamebreakingly OP, even moreso than the other WCI.
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>>160514965
>First goblin he meets is a female one
>404
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>>160481676

where did you find this image? saucenao and iqdb give no results
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>>160520130
20 WCI are also expendable, right?
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>>160520180
>female goblins
>fuckers now can procreate without pillaging
>exterminate with discretion
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Evileye is for breeding, even if she can't.
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>>160520257
EE is for bullying.
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>>160520188
I think it depends. All that is said is that "some" (implied to be most of the big 20) are so powerful you "lose" then after one use. we dont know if they get consumed in the useage, or its like the dragonballs and gets sent to a random place across the globe.
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>>160520227
>female gobline
>female
>that pic

anon...
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>>160517748
Yes but he still got full 100% experience bar for levelel 100.
At Katze, Ainz had almost full XP bar, once La Shub Niggurath had done it's part he had full XP and everything overflowing went into Mare's WCIs.
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>>160520435
>we're reaching headcanon levels never seen before!
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>>160517615
>Evil Tree seems to be Yggdrasil Monster that Ainz was not aware of.
He knew what monster it was(joke one that players played around with), it was just so deformed from the normal that it took him some time and face-to-trunk interaction to recognize the damn thing.
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>>160520380
Is this better?
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>>160520257
EE: undead, flate female and vampire
Shalltear: fetish for undead. Chest complex and lesbian play.
And you already know what EE fate is if she ever meet Shalltear.
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>>160520496
But how the fuck did it deform in NW?
Assuming it was weak - did Ygg mob gain levels in NW somehow?
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>>160520306
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>>160520487
Except Ainz said he was almost near the cap of extra XP you can get when you're at level 100, and that he didn't feel anything like leveling up. Which could have still happened and Ainz is just too dense to check page 2 of his character sheet.
And WCI still did it's XP collection ability.
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>>160520685
Is that frozen piss?
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>>160520602
>But how the fuck did it deform in NW?
It got trashed by a group of adventurers, considering they were apparently weak shits it was probably asleep and they just chopped it up without waking it up.
>Assuming it was weak - did Ygg mob gain levels in NW somehow?
Unknown.
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Renner is the true Overlord of the New World. Always remember that.
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>>160518808
>>160518884
My bad, I fucked up, I meant 6GG, not 8GK.
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>>160520569
no
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>>160520805
You better never forget.
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>>160520602
It was higher level than it can get in Ygg so uh,, yes?
Presumably it was all that munching on the other forest denizens that gave it exp.
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>>160521133
That's not a female.
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>>160521278
Then Yggdrasil caps do not apply in NW at least to mobs.
Maybe neither to Players and NPC and Ainz is just being retarded for not checking his status?
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>>160521312
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>>160520723
Evileye is getting angry, you should stop..
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>>160521428
There's no stopping the bully train!
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Shalltear is always lusting after Ainz shiny bones. How come Lupu don't have the same reaction.
Even Sol wanted to lick him clean.
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>>160521399
There is no place for sense of humor in GS autism.
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>>160521489
Lupu is mimidoshima, she's probably designed to not desire actual intercourse.
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>>160521517
I havent picked up GS yet. I get hes full goblin holocaust but why ONLY goblins? are there no orc or other tribal savage race? or is that universes goblins jsut so bad?
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>>160521595
He's got unhealthy fixation on gobs is all.
It's not like it's unjustified either, gobs are just commonly overlooked by governments and adventurers by various reasons while common folk suffer greatly at their hands.
Just read it.
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>>160521563
What the hell are you talking about? I am talking about Ainz bones. Lupu -> is kinda a dog. Don't dog love bones?
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>>160521726
>kinda dog
It's racist to assume werewolf would lust for bones just because it's a canine.
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Can't Ainz just summon some mercenary angels already and mind blow every temple in the continent? He would literally get free crusaders that would fight for his holy quest.
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>>160521791
nice pic
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>>160521791
Funny thing is. She is a hunter so she stalk her prey. But Sol and Shizu who has assassin class doesn't like stalking. Even the twins from Blue Rose like playing ninja.
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>>160521811
He can just as well cast Pandemonium or whatever the shit is called like in vol10 and meet ST delegacy with Angel guards.
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Would Yuri use her fist to beat up children if they are naughty?
>Ainz: it was a terrible idea to let Yuri in charge of the children. Muscle brain
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>>160521595
Goblins killed his village and he was basically stuck watching while hidden as a kid. Goblins also reproduce entirely via rape and tend to enjoy torture etc. He has a sister. I'm sure you can do the math.

There's other stuff but it's things that make the worldbuilding and characters seem incompetent to a shouldn't have been able to make civilization degree when examined.
Eg high mortality rate of new groups with noone ever realizing they're slightly dangerous.
Sending female adventurers to fight an all male species that reproduces via rape.
Then goblins eventually overrun villages because of their reproductive rate after a few days.
Noone ever rethinks this tactic during the time the MC went from being a child to a fully grown man.
Then there's the priest that was RAISED in a temple that is packed with mentally insane victims of goblin abduction and rape who does not realize that goblins might be dangerous (especially to HER) or actually know anything about em enough to think that goes on a team of rookies vs a nest of them is a bad idea. Keep in mind that a rookie team going in vs a nest of them is what causes the most deaths/rapes.
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>>160521363
Or it only applies to npcs since they're made from data crystals, shalltear being remade from solid gold might let her lose levels the next time she dies.
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>>160521915
Temp isn't as effective as permanent. What if they disappear during the meeting. ST would be less impress with summoning instead real ones
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>“Then, I will be off. Right… since you wanted to make boys’ clothes, you might want to know this.
>Did you know that the Supreme Beings seem to prefer boys in girl’s clothing?”
>MFW you're a Supreme Being
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>>160522054
Dark Knight in Emissary story lasted enough to visit all floor guardians for interview.
Should be enough for a meeting with humies.
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I always find it a waste the way Ainz resurrected Shalltear. According to the setting,dying is losing 5 levels tops. Higher tier resurrection magic would lower the level drops. Ainz actually wasted 500million gold just so Shalltear can keep her level 100 status. If Ainz had resurrected her with a high tier spell ,at most she losses 2-3 levels. Is not like she can't get it back consider how she just wipe out a whole army of moles.
Just thinking about losing that money make me feel pain in my chest. Ainz must really love his npc's
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>>160522279
>If Ainz had resurrected her with a high tier spell ,at most she losses 2-3 levels.
Why do you think NPC can be resurrected with spells?
Nothing was left of Shalltear after the Fallen Down, no corpse to cast spell on.
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>>160522279
There's nothing saying normal magic would work on her. And leaving her lv95 would most likely make some of her build broke, maybe even to the point where she cant use her equipment. And in that case, it inst an matter of 5% but more like 30% of power output.
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I kinda want another daily life vol. One with pov of side characters. What kind of opinion they have living under Ainz rule. The dryad,old man snake, lizardmen, slave elves ,dragons and so many more.
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Ainz should just steal Enfri talent already. This way he can control more guild weapons.
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>>160522362
That only applies to NW low level res skills. It doesn't seem Ainz has used anything other than what he saw in the NW so far.
We have yet to see high lvl res skills.
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>>160522362
>>160522523
I was talking about the corpse part, I realized my comment was misleading.
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Author is so cruel. He usually update at his web novel site if there is any news about his upcoming books. This year there is not even a peep from him.
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>>160522279
Depends upon the nature of raising and she's not exactly an alive creature for the purposes of resurrection. Try that on an undead pc and you get whatever they were "originally" alive as.
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Why does it take so long to volumes to come out now ? Is Maruyama tired of Overlord ?
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>>160522617
Supposedly we'd get two volumes within few month so he's basically writing two vols.
He also said future volumes will be shorter.
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>>160522617
Tell that to the publisher. Author is already long finish with v12. Maybe even v13.
It could be because of the market. Hoping which release day would sell more and not compete with other popular novels release at the same time. That's the job of the publisher. Hoping to make more money. Or it could be they are complaining again that the novel has too many pages and need editing .
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>>160521984
>reproduce through rape
yea but isnt the same usually true for lots of ugly fantasy races like orcs?

I mean if he saw an orc raping a women, and also saw a goblin far away across the valley, he would go straight for the goblin?
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>>160522617
Maybe he keeps revising the volumes which just throws the schedule off.
Vol 10 was delayed because of that, I think he said on twitter he has vol 14-16 already drafted.
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>>160522827
I don't know too much about the other species but i feel you are not understanding what i'm saying.
The orcs and whatever have females.
The goblins are entirely 100% dependent upon raping females of other species to reproduce. The idiots in the setting are literally giving them the only way to make more goblins and make the problem worse.
MC also minmaxed himself vs goblins so he'd know he can't win vs an orc. (Plus his gear is shit and literally stinks compared to other adventurers the same level) His autism would also dictate he go straight for the goblin. The only reason he'd stp to try anything to the orc is knowing that it would get in the way of his killing the goblin and might be allied with the goblins due to being in the vicinity.
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>>160508637
>don't take more than 2, or 3 at the max, episodes to do the lizardman arc
Oh boy are you in for a ride. Expect it to be 4-6 episodes.
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>>160523045
Would you shut up about goblins already. And about the goblin hunter mc
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>>160523045
b-but...what would happen if he came across a women that is actively using herself to breed goblins and acts as the "goblin queen" to a horde of goblins she uses to raid villages with? Would he not kill her because she isnt a goblin? is he THAT autismo about goblins?
did I spoil the mango for myself just now?
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>>160523209
Stop being autistic anon. I was merely answering a question. If you were going to complain it should be presumably at the person repeatedly asking more questions because he cannot believe the answer is that simple so you aren't even going at the right target.
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>>160523228
The plot of volume 2:
GS & party get a mission to hunt Goblins in the sewers beneath a city by the Archbishop, Sword Maiden.
The Goblins are unusually well equipped and it turns out that there was a secret cult helping them.
The one who created the cult and then disposed of it once it served it's purpose was Sword Maiden.
She was raped by Goblins and now has PTSD, despite being a legendary hero so she wants everyone to know just how fucking terrifying Goblins are so people take her seriously when she says there's a Goblin problem.
GS confronts her about it and when she asks what he'll do to her he says "nothing, you're not a Goblin" and then promises to kill all the Goblins, even the ones that haunt her nightmares.
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>>160523144
So its gonna end at the end of vol. 6 or go beyond?
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How long would it take me to learn to drawn and make my own AuraxFenrir doujins?
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>>160527535
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>>160526046
elf king is going to get his feminine penis ripped off
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>>160528377
Would Ainz give me a plaque if I make doujins about her daughters?
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>>160529015
More like a plague.
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>>160518588
Elf?
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>Maruyama is a fan of Made in Abyss

Sasuga.
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>>160490030
That is wrong or it wouldn't be able to kill the vermin swarms that constitute Entoma's fly spray. Most likely it functions like a version of the spell Cloudkill where it will auto-kill creatures below a certain HD(hitdice; basically the number of levels, but not exactly), and deal damage to things it doesn't instantly kill. For your assumption to be correct it would have to deal a flat amount of damage and then deal additional %damage, which there has been no evidence of
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>>160530922
>ainz gets thrown into the abyssal plane and conquers it

Do it maruyama.
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>>160531312
>conquers it
He will just explore and try to find his way back desu. Albedo & Co. would try to access the plane and conquer it while searching for Ainz.
>Ainz is asked by the inhabitants to save them from some cruel invaders who try to enslave them.
>It's his children
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>>160531154
>That is wrong
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>>160481676
Soon
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We all agree that PPP is the superior anime right? hot spring ova when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHhvI9xfFnM
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>>160521363
>Then Yggdrasil caps do not apply in NW at least to mobs.
How would it apply if the mob wasn't level 100 and didn't hit the cap?
And again, it wasn't stronger than usual it was weaker, or just really old.
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>>160531744
D-did I say something wrong? I just get so nervous sometimes
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>>160520183
so-bin's twitter
https://twitter.com/soubin/status/891110264363393024
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>>160533536
>So-Bin uses a Zippo
Not only is he a good artist, but he is also a man with good taste in lighters
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>>160492517
Oh, come on. He only mentioned Eight Fingers. The most atrocious acts of Nazarick are commited by his subordinates who interpret his orders how they see befitting of his evil benevolent Overlord status. At least against humans, he really doesn't restrain himself when going against non-humans (though the mole extermination is not exactly his fault either, because it was his subordinates who decided how to act about it).
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Handsome Climb.
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>>160489500
>First Princess reluctantly takes command of field operations
Wrong princess, m8.
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>>160495418
>Nabe is Albedo side
>Solution is Shalltear side
>Narberal and Solution are in a like twin sisters relationship
>Yuri supports Aura
>High chance CZ will follow Yuri
>Entoma is neutral but closest it seem to Solution and CZ

This behind the scene politics is complicated.
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>>160522279
>muh exponential growth tho
Apparently being level 100 is a million times more powerful than level 95.
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>>160497684
Why do people keep bringing up hikki dragons as problem solvers? He's stopped giving a fuck, that's canon.
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>>160534952
Someone's headcanon.
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>>160533504
Yes, >>160490030 is ancient bait meme.
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>>160535135
>He's stopped giving a fuck, that's canon
Well, we don't know. Even Tsar doesn't know what he is doing. Chances are, he doesn't know about the player/players whom the DDDL killed and whose World Class Item is now in his possession.

The DDDL is special in that he is the first New Worlder who has confirmed player kills under his belt, so he is very popular with headcanoneers/trolls.

Also, the BIG Dragon Lord is not a hikki, he is flying all day every day outdoors.
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>>160534543
Well she's first princess by that time.
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>>160532996
Maybe developers didn't have to specify mob level cap since mobs were not supposed to level up in Yggdrasil at all.
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>>160535347
>Big Dragon Lord
Who?
Brightness Dragon Lord aka Sevel Colors Dragon Lord aka LGBT perverted Dragon?
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>>160535348
>she's first princess by that time
I don't think anyone will care enough to assassinate her sisters.
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Is Ainz secretly Chinman in disguise?
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>>160535401
>sisters
Who?
She doesn't have sisters.
The order of succession is genderless.
>First Prince - Barbo
>Second Prince - Zanac
>Third Princess - Renner
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>>160535434
He's got the same type of face as Narberal (racially). If we can figure out what race she is we know what race Ainz i--

>She's got a Japanese face.

Well, that's that.
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>>160535400
>LGBT
Rainbow is pure, don't associate it with human filth, please.

>Who?
Heavenly Dragon Lord. Apparently he is so big and gives so little damns that everybody who sees him treats him like a part of the landscape.
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>>160535447
>The order of succession is genderless.
Except it isn't.
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>>160535447
She has 2 unnamed sisters.
LN just calls them First and Second princesses.
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>>160535447
>She doesn't have sisters
But she does. They were just already wed off
>Order of succession is genderless
Not in the Kingdom. She might end up ruling anyways by allying with Nazarick
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>>160535491
But we already have the name for one of the lords married to them, as he is a potential rival for Zanack in the succession rights.
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>>160535513
>>160535491
>>160535488
Y'all is bullshitting me right?
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>>160535513
She can inherit the throne if and only if her brothers are removed from succession somehow (ie death) and she is the eldest. Even THEN she can still lose the throne if the nobles petition for someone to hold it in trust.
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>>160535524
Nope, Zanack mentions one of the lords married to his sisters as a potential rival for the throne in Volume 10.
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>>160535524
No. I'm not bullshitting you. The volume with Philip and Albedo explains how inheritance works during one of Philip's inner monologues. This is how it worked historically as well and the kingdom is based on that.
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>>160535537
Unfortunate accidents, unfortunate accidents everywhere!
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>>160535524
>Next, Gazef’s eyes turned to the youngest and most handsome of the nobles, Marquis Pespeya. He was married to the King’s eldest daughter, and became the head of his household at the same time as his marriage.
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>>160535562
She doesn't care about the throne. She's more than content just having Climb. It was one of the deals she rendered with one of the nobles (forgot his name the one with the kid).
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>>160535524
Fucking speedreader
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>>160535576
>>160535560
>>160535555
>>160535605
Okay then.
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>>160535619
>A girl on the internet realizes real life isn't like how feminism taught her.
Sorry. Eldest males typically inherited everything to prevent land from being divvied up and a loss of an established power base.
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>>160535586
>She doesn't care about the throne.
>Expected to assume position similar to the Area Guardian in Nazarick Hierarchy if she pulls through with her part of Re-Estize 9/11 successfully
She does now.
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>>160512110
I meant time wise.
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>>160535636
>A girl on the internet
Best compliment I ever heard.
Thank you anon.
>Eldest males inherited for X
I thought it was about royal\noble females having to pump babies to preserve the bloodline.
And with low life expectance + shit medicine = they were not the best candidates to rule the house/realm.
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>>160535646
Well, that's if she can open the box Albedo gave her. And that's also if she becomes a guardian (she won't).

You might be right in a way. With Ainz changing everything she might feel she has a shot at it and petition him for it.
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>>160535688
Men inherited because they could impregnate multiple women simultaneously. Women couldn't produce heirs as quickly and could die in childbirth. It's the reasonable decision, especially considering you decided to harp on medicine.
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>>160535537
Being put below last in the normal order and being able to be bypassed by nobles either having married one of your older sisters or simply voting themselves into power with their peons is not an order of succession that is "genderless" as the guy was purporting. There is a heavy bias
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>>160535674
Something about 5-7 years?
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>>160535722
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say? Yes, there is bias towards men being inheritors. That's what I'm saying.
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>princess
>betrays her country, people, and family
This is why daughters are shit whose use is only being whored out for money.
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>>160535752
Oh, you were agreeing with me and clarifying. My bad. Thought you were trying to use that post to say that the guy I was responding to was right
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>>160535779
Yeah, I might have mis-linked. I can't be assed to fix it now. My bad.
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>>160535779
>>160535795
You've made up. Now kiss.
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>>160522362
Seeing that Overlord has True Death, its opposite, True Resurrection, doesn't need a corpse neither does care how long someone has been dead in D&D.
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>>160535823
But I'm shy!
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>>160535777
To be fair Princess Renner never really betrayed her kingdom. The nobles sure as fuck didn't care, though. Her actions are probably the only way it'll survive.
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>>160535777
>Renner betrayed her
>Country
>Shithole that can't even utilize it's vast resources well due to greed and arrogance of nobles leading it, shot down each and every of her proposition to improve the situation
>People
>Full of degenerate nobles who were placed on fertile, secure soil to further the progress of human race, but degraded to petty squabbles and corruption instead
>Made no attempts to truly understand and lovingly nurture her, helping her grow into a fully functional sociopath instead of closed psycho
>Family
>Cannot understand, did not try to understand her too and will sell her off to the highest bidder as some sort of sow

>All three will be better off as SKAOG puppets with an exception of family, which would probably be kill.

Renner did not betray anyone.
You cannot betray if you have no loyalty to begin with.
Neither country, people or family deserve loyalty for how they treated her.
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>>160535864
Rape it is, then.
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>>160535860
What do you target with your cast?
On that slightly darker spot within Fallen Down crater?
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>>160535874
>t.cosmopolitan (retard)
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Renner is a princess (male)
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>>160535560
>This is how it worked historically as well
Successions rules differs a lot depending on the countries. Most of them didn't allow women to rule at all. France even forbade the descendant of the family by women to claim the throne.
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>>160535865
Do a cowgirl riding.
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Blood succession could be such a clusterfuck. Like in the old Rus, the knyaz throne was succeeded not by the guy's oldest son, but by the guy's oldest living brother (then it should have went to other brothers and only after that to the guy's oldest son). There was quite a bloody war when one big knyaz died but gave the right not to his brother (who was quite good in the art of war) but to his young son, who wasn't even an adult yet.
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>>160535874
You forgot the part where they shut her down trying to help the commoner and improve the overall health of her nation.
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>>160535893
>This spell functions like raise dead, except that you can resurrect a creature that has been dead for as long as 10 years per caster level. This spell can even bring back creatures whose bodies have been destroyed, provided that you unambiguously identify the deceased in some fashion (reciting the deceased’s time and place of birth or death is the most common method)
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>>160535912
It can be quite complex and messed, hence why some absolute rules tended to be etablished to avoid this kind of issue.
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>>160535907
I watched a documentary about a guy inventing a MRI technique to distinguish psychopaths only to find that he is one himself and that he didn't turn into a closet murderer because his family realized it early and took extra care in bringing him up.
Yes, he was a bit rough around the corners, but not at the level of planning to murder you.
So yeah, family and healthy childhood means a lot in a formation of a psychopath.
People around Renner ARE responsible for what she is because they didn't care enough.
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>>160535940
Sounds like bullshit.
Is that DnD?
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>>160535965
Or maybe his bullshit science didn't work?
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>>160535965
Renner is a piece of shit and no amount of daddy issues rebellion arguments can defend her actions unless you are edgelord who self inserts with her wicked sense of humor.
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>>160536009
Nah it worked fine, he didn't use MRI alone to establish that he's a psychopath.
Thing is: when properly socialized and raised with love - they contribute to society greatly.

Golden Princess literally said to have every stat related to ruling a country maxed out.
With Renner at it's helm and SKAOG at her back - Re-Estize will enter Golden Age of prosperity.
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>>160535997
3.5's version of the spell specifically, but yes. It is d&d
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>>160536069
>Increased road defense.
>Paved roads.
>Passed adventurer protection policies.
>Did things constantly for the commoner.
What did she do that's so bad, again? Have a sexual fantasy she has never enacted?
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>>160536069
And you're a justicefag who can't see a point of putting competent people rather than kind but dumb or corrupt ones in charge.
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>>160535372
>Maybe developers didn't have to specify mob level cap since mobs were not supposed to level up in Yggdrasil at all.
Cap was level100, since you could 'tame' mobs and use them as pets if you were into playing as a tamer like Aura. World class bosses/raids had levels over 100 so they either have higher level caps or are just special cases.

And we still don't know what the actual fuck did happen to Ainz at Katze, meaning that he may or may not have have hit level 101 and is unaware of it(aka doesn't notice he has page 2 in character profile now headcannon), but most likely he just caped out on XP and got extra stored in WCI gloves.
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>>160536099
Not him, but she did kill whores and conspired with Demi to orchestrate Capital Disturbance but
>>160536069
Whatever Renner did - would be worse if she did nothing.
Demiurge would assaulted Capital by himself, Renner just negotiated Climb safety.
Re-Estize would fall due to Empire's plan to sap it's strength naturally and would probably go violently in a fires of Civil War while Baharuth Knights would conquer it with ease.

Sure from the POV of current government what she does is national treason, but there's a reason no law exist against a SUCCESSFUL coup.
Because winner writes the rules.
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>>160536099
Entirely for her self interest. Doing harm wouldn't be a problem and likely will follow once her goals are achieved and gains power. There's something off about the whole orphanage thing but I'm not sure what it is yet.
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>>160536184
>Entirely for her self interest.
What does her gaining from it got to do with making it evil?
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>>160535997
To be fair to the bullshit, it is a 9th level class-specific spell. 9th level in d&d is basically the same as 10th level in Overlord, probably. Overlord doesn't have cantrips/orisons (0 level spells) so it should be okay to bump up most d&d spells a level to equate them to Overlord's tiered spell system. The only problem there is that we already know of certain spells in Overlord, such as fireball being 3rd level, that are the same level as their d&d counterparts, so who the fuck knows
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>>160536184
> Doing harm wouldn't be a problem
Is not her objective.
Her objective to get out of her current situation of a prized Royal Sow being sold on auction, with Climb in tow.
After ascension to power she'll play Maria Theresa to keep Climb and masses Adoring her.
That grind her gears if you didn't notice yet.
Even has an Actor class.
> There's something off about the whole orphanage thing
It might be either oprhans and/or Lakyus would be sacrificed to open the Race Change Box.
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>>160536237
>It might be either oprhans and/or Lakyus would be sacrificed to open the
Or maybe it's just a part of Ainz's plan for finding useful human resources.
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>>160536226
>dump all shitty cantrips as 1st level spells
>create new 10th level spells
Is not hard, anon.
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>>160536204
Well, if you are shortsighted it'll be amazing I admit. Like a rat finding cheese where he least expected.
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>>160536184
>>160536069
The thing is that Renner as a Queen is so much better than a clusterfuck of greed, incompetence and corruption that current Re-Estize government is - you don't even need to sympathize with her personality to consider her a far better alternative.
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>>160536299
You didn't actually explain how anything she's done is evil.
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>>160536289
Author went extra mile with the scene of children trusting Renner.
It was either to charge Climb puppy eyes more or to rub future children death all over our faces.
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>>160536289
>ainz
>planning anything
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Should we do another thread?
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>>160536367
Yes please. Albedo best girl.
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>>160536367
No
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>>160536329
Killing slave prostitutes is evil and agreeing to the whole Capital massacre is quite evil too. So is plotting to kill or killing noble maids for being rude to Climb.
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>>160536329
I'm not sure about your head cannon on evil but I'd risk it and say conspiring with devils against her people should probably fall into that.
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>>160536337
>Yuri wants to help kids
>Ainz thinks of letting her build an orphanage
>Renner already built her own orphanage
>The rest of the world will always see this as Ainz picking up Renner's idea and running with it like Just did with crop rotations in the Empire
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>>160536401
>>160536424

>Killing slave prostitutes is evil and agreeing to the whole Capital massacre is quite evil too.
Citation needed.

>agreeing to the whole Capital massacre is quite evil too
Her agreement was secondary. The attack was happening either way. She gained influence during the attack to ensure her survival and others. Nothing evil about that.

>So is plotting to kill or killing noble maids for being rude to Climb.
You're defending THOSE nobles? Are you serious? They have that shit coming. If it was Ainz doing it you'd cheer him on.
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>>160536343
>Implying this is not all an elaborate scheme with extremely downplayed Ainz written by Ainz who is mind controlling Maruyama so we welcome him with open arms once Nazarick invades the Earth from NW to prevent us nuking everything into shit and making HeroHero and his parents overwork themselves
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>>160536343
Hey, he does plan things out, just not to the extent of his "genius" servants like Albedo and Demiurge. He even finds it a bit troubling when he starts treating the fight with the Martial Lord Go-Gin as actual fun, and not a part of the job.
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>>160536401
>Killing slave
>evil
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>>160536401
>slave prostitutes
Might be requested by Demiurge or it was a legit 8 Fingers covering their tracks.
>agreeing to the whole Capital massacre
Agreeing?
Do you really think Demiurge would need anyone's agreement to go through with it?
Fucker didn't even ask Ainz!
She just made the best out of it by making a deal for Climb's live.
>plotting to kill maids
They're cunts and have it coming for them.

All I can see is self-interest with a bit of healthy petty vengeance anyone is prone to.
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>>160536515
It's evil because she's a woman and not passive.
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>>160536237
>race change box
Has there actually been development on that in more recent material? I haven't read anything past the dwarf snorefest and this box is eating me.
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>>160536532
Oh, okay then.
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>>160536537
There was nothing.
It's known that Albedo worries that even Renner might fail opening the box, which implies some sort of danger.
It was also implied that SKAOG will abandon Renner and feigh ignorance of this box if she fails, suggesting Renner will need to take some drastic actions to open it.
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>>160536537
>Has there actually been development on that in more recent material? I haven't read anything past the dwarf snorefest and this box is eating me.
We didn't get anything at all since.
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>>160536532

sasuga white knight
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>comic sans
>no punctuation
>spelling errors all over the place
>reddit
Why is this allowed?
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>>160536532
Seems like you need some femdom in your life anon
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>>160536653
Depends on the type. What type of femdom we talking about, anon?
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>>160536453
>Citation needed.
Can't provide it now, but she basically tells Climb that the prostitutes whom he and Sebas saved are dead and that it was probably the Eight Fingers assassins' doing (who were busy being pounded into submission by Nazarick).

>Her agreement was secondary.
She still agreed and didn't feel anything about it.

>You're defending THOSE nobles? Are you serious? They have that shit coming. If it was Ainz doing it you'd cheer him on.
Ah, no, I wouldn't cheer for Ainz brutally killing the maids for being rude and disdainful towards Climb. Even Climb thinks that he is a part of the problem, he can't start getting friendly with them because some noble might not like it (Climb is a low-born), so he tries to just ignore them which makes THEM think that he treats them like dirt.
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>>160536663
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>>160536652
Because it's free.
Don't like it?
Do a better job or stfu.
>>160536663
"Girls for M" type of femdom.
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>>160536673
>Can't provide it now, but she basically tells Climb that the prostitutes whom he and Sebas saved are dead and that it was probably the Eight Fingers assassins' doing (who were busy being pounded into submission by Nazarick).
Just because she CAN'T save them doesn't mean anything. Jesus man.

>She still agreed and didn't feel anything about it.
And the kingdom allowed Ainz to take one of their cities. Are they evil for that?

>The maids are a problem.
>But don't worry about it they're not evil.
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>>160536697
>"Girls for M" type of femdom.
Eh. Not interested.
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>>160536515
No, neutrals or good people usually don't kill people for being rude. Don't even start.

>>160536509
She ended the slavery, smartass. Those were "employees".
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>>160536697
>Because it's free.
Doesn't mean it's free from criticism. Don't like it? Leave the job to those who did it before you or STFU and learn from them.
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>>160536673
>who were busy being pounded into submission by Nazarick
With the scale of corruption in Re-Estize - it would take 8 Fingers to send a messenger with a bribe to a guard and he would slay the whores himself.
It could be that 8 Fingers actually killed them, it's entirely valid that they would want to eliminate witnesses of their business and protect Noble clients.
The order might've been issued before Nazarick descended upon the cartel.
>She still agreed and didn't feel anything about it.
What kind of shitty argument is that?
Are you a woman?
She doesn't need to feel anything about it when it won't change the outcome, being emotional in such situations are detrimental.
She made good use of opportunity and negotiated safety of her beloved.
>Maids
Maids are shit.
Author gone extra mile to explain how shitty they are to Climb and Renner.
Almost anyone would lose their temper, the difference is Renner is capable of holding it in until she has free reign.
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>>160536787
No, it means it's free from shitty criticism and demands for increased quality which you're not willing to pay for. Which is what you're doing. Fag.

Either pay up or shut up.
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>>160536697
>Since you didn't make it you can't complain about a shitty job being done
What a shit argument
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>>160536763
>No, neutrals or good people usually don't kill people for being rude. Don't even start.
I'd probably bitchslapped the fuck outta them and sent them to clean the stables for five years or something.
I might not be neutral or good then.
>>160536787
>free shit
>criticism
Anon you don't have the leverage, and TL group doesn't care.
Why are you bothering?
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>>160536828
>Since you didn't pay for it you can't complain about a shitty job being done
Fix'd. Find another free resource if you don't like it so much or pay for quality.
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>>160536828
You can't.
Because it's free.
You didn't pay to get it and the labor was entirely volunteer so no, you can't.
Or rather that you can, but it's so fucking pointless that you look stupid, see >>160536839
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>>160536858
>>160536845
>>160536839
you have to go back.
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>>160536858
You have to complain or else someone who's done shitty job will keep doing shitty job and will never improve.
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>>160536903
You think to well about TL anons: in my opinion they don't really give a fuck and that makes complaining anons look retarded.
If it's for self-satisfaction - I can get it, but don't pretend your free shit will get any better from it, it won't.
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>>160536727
>Just because she CAN'T save them doesn't mean anything. Jesus man.
It's implied that she got them murdered.

>She doesn't need to feel anything about it when it won't change the outcome, being emotional in such situations are detrimental.
When people in charge don't care about the well-being of other people we get Satoru's Earth or the Kingdom. Pretty evil in my eyes. Demiurge, an edgelord, found a familiar spirit in her. Say what you will, but I won't call her a good person or some TRUE NEUTRAL. She is pretty evil to me.

>The maids are a problem.
Yeah, they are being disdainful because Climb is being rude, how fucking evil of them.
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>>160536845
>>160536858
But you can call out shit being shit, regardless of your own involvement in the project or the price. I wasn't saying that TLs would take any of that criticism seriously, but in a series like this there have been plenty of chapters that have been just fine. If whoever this is that did this just decided to step in and rush it out without doing a half-decent job of making into English, the language they are trying to express this in, then they should be called out on it. Just like we should praise the people that do it for free and do a good job
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>>160536889
>>160536903
>Won't pay for better quality.
>Just cries for more freebies on the internet.
>Expects to be taken seriously.
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>>160536940
It's not about self-satisfaction.
But if people complain hard enough someone else may come out and do a better job next time.
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>>160536955
see: >>160536957
No one cares what you want or what you "call out" you autist.

>>160536942
>It's implied that she got them murdered.
Citation, etc.

>When people in charge don't care about the well-being of other people we get Satoru's Earth or the Kingdom. Pretty evil in my eyes. Demiurge, an edgelord, found a familiar spirit in her. Say what you will, but I won't call her a good person or some TRUE NEUTRAL. She is pretty evil to me.
Actions > Some Alignment.

>Yeah, they are being disdainful because Climb is being rude, how fucking evil of them.
>Climb
>rude
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>>160536942
>It's implied that she got them murdered.
Lies and slander.
Where are your proof, mongrel!?
>When people in charge don't care about the well-being of other people
She'll play the role for Climb so it doesn't really matter if she cares for people or not.
>Maids are a problem
They're leaking intel to Noble Faction so, from a perspective of a person loyal to her Royal Family - she'd be in her right to execute them.
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>>160536984
Or just quit since you're an ungrateful piece of shit.
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>>160536955
>But you can call out shit being shit
You can throw shit at your local govt administration office.
This won't improve their quality because they don't care about sad fucks whining on 4chan.
If you want improvement - compose your criticism politely and send it over to TL group, don't smear your discontent with freebies all over anon here, deal with the TL directly.
More likely they'll tell you to fuck off and you'll see that I'm right.
On the off chance the do accept your criticism and work to better their future releases - you've actually done something solid to increase the quality.
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>>160536839
>bitchslapping
Pretty neutral compared to Renner's solution.

>cleaning the stables for five years
Low-tier evil compared to Renner's solution.

Both are pretty ballsy moves, considering how powerful the Nobles are in the Kingdom
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>>160537037
>ungrateful
You're reaching drawthread level or retardness here.
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>Won't learn another language.
>Won't spend their time cleaning a page, translating text, and typesetting.
>Won't even buy the original.
>Won't even donate to the artist or translator.
>Won't even spit out a thank you.
>TAKE ME SERIOUSLY GUISE! DO BETTER BECAUSE I DEMAND IT!
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>>160536984
>But if people complain hard enough someone else may come out and do a better job next time.
Do you hammer screws in instead of screwing them too?
That's retarded way to go about it.
Complain to TL group directly >>160537056
I don't give a shit what you think about their release.
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>>160537066
>harass someone doing a niceness for you for free
>think they'll just do better and not tell you to, "Fuck off, do it yourself then!"
Are you a millennial?
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>>160537057
>ballsy
I meant when's she's a Queen.
If I was in her shoes and was Prince instead of Princess - I could think of many other natural punishments for said maids.
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>>160537108
>here's shit
>be grateful because you get it for free
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>>160537139
see
>>160537084
Don't like it? Don't read it.
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>people are not ironically defending shit TL groups
Jesus christ, this place really as gone to shit
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>>160536989
>Citation, etc.
Ask another day, okay?

>Actions > Some Alignment
Agree, she didn't commit a serious act of ultimate evil onscreen yet.

>Climb
>rude
That's what Climb thought. Do you doubt Climb's judgement now?

>They're leaking intel to Noble Faction so, from a perspective of a person loyal to her Royal Family - she'd be in her right to execute them
She plays them like puppets with their string attached, she doesn't care about that.
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>>160537037
With this manga, it is fine if this new guy quits then because it was already being handled by people obviously more capable than them. If they were the only one willing to do it then this would be an entirely different situation

>>160537056
I never said that the TL groups really care about the shit posted on here. But we should be able to talk about our opinions on the quality of a release if we want to. It doesn't matter whether it is bootleg or not. If you feel that the quality is fine, then whatever
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>>160537139
You don't have to be anything about it, but complaining about free shit is retarded regardless of quality.
No one gives a fuck about your opinion and you can't not_buy this shit next time like happens in free market because it's free.
Basically you have no actual leverage over the quality of the product, but you still whine, complain and pretend your actions matter.
They don't, you just look like autistic kid throwing a tantrum in a mall.
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>>160537160
>They're leaking intel to Noble Faction so, from a perspective of a person loyal to her Royal Family - she'd be in her right to execute them
She plays them like puppets with their string attached, she doesn't care about that.
*Was for >>160536998
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>>160537160
>Ask another day, okay?
I'll just take my victory then.

>Agree, she didn't commit a serious act of ultimate evil onscreen yet.
Probably never, too.

>That's what Climb thought. Do you doubt Climb's judgement now?
Yes. He's not very reliable when describing himself. That's the entire point of Climb's character. Unaware goodness.

>She plays them like puppets with their string attached, she doesn't care about that.
Then she doesn't care about killing them. Good job debunking your own shit.
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>>160537177
>With this manga, it is fine if this new guy quits then because it was already being handled by people obviously more capable than them. If they were the only one willing to do it then this would be an entirely different situation
It would be the same situation either way. They did it for free and therefore no one can really make them do anything different. It's the height of selfishness to demand "pay for" quality for shit you didn't pay for. Whether there's one person doing it or one-hundred.

And expect to get laughed at on the internet if you demand quality, too.
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>>160537160
>She plays them like puppets with their string attached, she doesn't care about that.
You're the one playing a justicefag so it DOES matter.
They're being Evil by betraying Royal Family.
Decapitation it is for them!
>>160537177
>If you feel that the quality is fine, then whatever
I don't feel there is a point in expressing my opinion over free shit cuz see >>160537180
There is no leverage over free TL quality, it's not free market, it's not planned commie economy where you get the firing squad for doing shit job, you can't make anon that doesn't care about your opinion do the shit he does differently.
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>>160537209
>demand
Here's the thing, dumb dumb, nobody is demanding shit, people are just calling this shit because is it shit
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>>160537292
Which is basically the same thing as demand they fix it. But if you don't like it? Don't read it. Take your "business" elsewhere.
>You won't.
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>>160536131
In vol 10 he was thinking about it, in Yggdrasil you will always gain atleast 1xp even if its a lowlevel mob.
From the amount he killed at Katze and as Momon he theoretical had to level up if that were possible. But he didnt felt any different so he started to make an effort to make most of his 100 levels by also honing his close combat abilitys ect.
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>>160537292
>calling this shit because is it shit
But for what purpose?
It won't change anything.
Just acknowledge you're doing it for self-satisfaction and we'll have an understanding, but nooo, you have to pretend your tantrum matters and it will somehow magically improve quality.
It won't.
Nobody cares.
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>>160537332
Though, considering how he fought during the Bloody Valkyrie arc he probably DID level up but not as a magic caster.
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>>160537312
Fuck off with your hugbox mentality, faggot, nobody is free of criticism
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>>160537209
I didn't demand anything, I said that this particular release was bad. The guy who started this whole chain by bringing it up was someone else

>>160537225
>There is no leverage over free TL quality
Again, I'm not looking for leverage. I'm not trying to incite some sort of group action here to affect the TL that made this. A guy said it was a shit TL, and I think that it was pretty bad English too. It should be possible to be able to form and express an opinion on the quality of something regardless of the price attached to it. Especially if it is a part of a series already being handled just fine by someone else. If you then want to weigh the price against that opinion after, that's great. That's following through in a way I like, but I think it is wrong to say that any complaint about any release is invalid just because the stuff is free. Though I get that it is a "shouting in the wind" kind of thing
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Was /ak/ always this fucking bad?
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>>160537343
>But for what purpose?
Because fuck you, that's why, now fuck off
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>>160537360
>>160537367
>I have a right to demand better quality free stuff!
Right. Here's your last (You) on the matter. You're just baiting now.
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>>160537353
Forgot the Bloody Valkyrie, In vol7 he stood his ground as a frontliner probably even without Perfect Warrior against party of experienced NW scrubs.
That says something, considering he's a magic caster.
>picrelated during the fight
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>>160537387
>demand
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>>160537367
>It should be possible to be able to form and express an opinion on the quality
It's 4chan /a/, prepare your opinion to be shat on if you post here.
>>160537381
That's much better.
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>>160536794
Didnt Renner baited the nobles thorugh one of her maids into action to get rid of the slaves?
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>>160537428
This is unknown, but I find it highly likely.
The responsibility is thus spread between Renner, Maid, 8 Fingers and actual assassins/corrupt guards who did the killing.
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>people complaining about people complaining about quality of free translation in Overlord thread
the irony
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>>160537465
Reminds me of this pic.
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>>160537457
No tis not unknown i am sure she purposly mentioend the rescued women infront of a maid that she knew of that she will tip off the nobles that are in cahoots with eight fingers.
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>>160537465
>They're not free from criticism! I can demand they improve if I want!
>BUT DON'T YOU DARE CRITICIZE ME!
It's definitely ironic.
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>>160537490
While being all proud about how climb rescued those womens and "spilling the beans" infront of that maid.
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>>160537495
It's ironic because people were complaining about quality of free translation of Overlord first volumes and instead of punishment Papa Bones sent Nigel-dono here.
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>>160537506
>>160537490
Oh, sasuga hivemind memory, I now remember too.
She sperged about how brave he was too.
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>>160537495
>demand
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means. Criticism is not a demand for improving, dumbfuck, is just voicing disapproval of something.
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>>160537524
>NIgel-dono The Savior lives in SIngapore
>Nyaa.si
Is Singapore last sanctuary for weebs?
>>
Above all else, I want to see a chapter focusing on Monster!Renner, Fluder and Justniv being put on a training coure to learn more about Nazerick.

Fluder and Renner take it seriously while Justniv is shitting his pants at the realization that there are 40 beings out there, some of which stronger than Ainz, who can come back at any time.
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>>160537524
dont think nigel does it all himself, people from skythewood still act as editors.
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>>160537495
You can criticize them all you want, but they're pointing out visible flaws, you're just mad they're doing it for some reason.
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>>160537536
>voicing disapproval of something.
Refer to >>160537343 and answer already why the fuck do you do that if it won't change the quality.
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>>160537569
>flaw

>>160537536
>improve
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>>160537524
Sasuga Nigel-sama!
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>>160537528
Found it end of Vol5:

“It’s amazing! Really amazing! Climb defeated some really really bad people
and freed all of the people who had been captured. Now they should be…
um, he said that he left them somewhere in the guard station. Now we can
punish the nobles who helped those bad people!”
“I see. That is really amazing. As expected, Renner-sama’s Climb-san is
splendid. But could I hear about that incredible thing he did with more
detail?”
Stupid girl, Renner spread her poison to the fool who was not even
suspicious.
She controls everything in the palm of her hand, all in order to obtain the
object of her desire.
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>>160537574
>greentext

Criticism is a perfectly good way to encourage improvement.
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>>160537574
Because nothing and nobody is free of criticism, is this concept too hard for you?
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>>160537616
>criticism
You're just bitching. And not even to the artist.
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>>160537624
see: >>160537626
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>>160537569
>you're just mad they're doing it for some reason
He's mad because he really liked the translation and wants them to keep going. The English of this TL was at the perfect level for him
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>>160537616
>pic
Friend is someone whose opinion you value.
What makes you think TL gives a fuck about you?
What makes you think TL is reading 4chan?
Those possibilities are low, this is why I'm telling you to admit you're whinig for self-satisfaction and be done with it already.
>>160537624
Is concept of purpose hard to you?
If you're not changing anything with your criticism - why voicing it?
Just accept you do it for self-satisfaction.
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>>160537652
>>160537569
see: >>160537626
It's not criticism. It's bitching. And in the wrong forum.

Amazingly people think it's garbage.
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>>160535347
Where the hell did this DDDL come from? I clearly missed new content while waiting for the next volume.
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>>160537685
Movie pamphlet had info about 3 Dragon Lords.
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>>160537626
>>160537683
With good reason, though, anyone can see the quality is garbage.

>>160537674
>What makes you think TL gives a fuck about you?
Me personally, no. The general opinion of his internet audience? Chances are he cares very much. The more scanslators try to act like they don't care about criticism, the harder they blow up when it continues.
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>>160537685
See >>160498945
Movie door gift pamphlet.
Someone post the translation.
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>>160537711
>With good reason, though, anyone can see the quality is garbage.
Still in the wrong forum, to the wrong people, for the wrong reasons, about the wrong content, and ignoring the fact people are calling you on it.
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>>160537711
> The general opinion of his internet audience?
Have you tried contacting him directly?
Posting on a forum he's guaranteed to read?
If no - you're like fuckers screaming about raging corruptions, but bribing officials as soon as they need some shit done.
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>>160536697
>Because it's free.
It doesn't excuse for doing crappy job.
There are tons of guide for proper scanlation floating around.
And it doesn't take that long learn it all.
Just install few fonts, and proofread the script.
Anyway thanks for anyone who have put effort and time into working on this.
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>>160537737
>>160537742
Will you also get triggered when people will complain about quality of Season 2?
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>>160537737
>>160537742

>This forum about discussing anime and manga is the wrong forum to discuss quality of anime and manga releases.

Nah, seems perfectly adequate. And I'm sure I don't need to communicate with the author directly, since anyone with eyes will have told him the same wherever he chose to release it.
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>>160537791
>>160537793

Still in the wrong forum, to the wrong people, for the wrong reasons, about the wrong content, and ignoring the fact people are calling you on it.
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>>160537791
How do you even misquote so often?
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>>160537683
>TL by /ak/
>wrong forum
>calling 4chan a forum
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>>160537799
Then it's not criticism. It's bitching. And we're calling you on it.
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>>160537801
>>160537827
>people are calling you on it
>we're calling you on it
It sounds more like one guy samefagging.
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>>160537821
>4chan isn't a forum
Do the basic definitions of words elude you?
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>>160537813
Bad eyesight and lack of sleep.
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>>160537737
>>160537742
Wasn't it a reddit release? That means that we would have to go on reddit to complain. Fuck that. Also, we wouldn't even need to go there. Lord knows those faggots lurk here desperately trying to appropriate shit as their own
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>>160537827
>Then it's not criticism.
It's criticism.
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>>160537793
>triggered
Not as much cuz someone legit paid for Overlord mech such as BD and studio gets money from streaming so those complains are somewhat valid.
Even bitching about HS quality I can understand - they basically killed fansubs and if something drastic happens - it'll be a while for actual fansubs to get momentum, leaving us without fast releases for a while.

But bitching about free manga TL I don't understand no matter how you explain it to me.
There is no way it improves the quality, just contact TL directly for that.
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Reminder that the 7th Seat has a big doll/puppet in that schoolbag.

The chances of "And the puppet with its strings cut fell like a puppet with its strings cut" happening are big.

>>160537685
>>160537704
>>160537720
Also Volume 7 Intermission.
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>>160537860
Better fit.
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>>160537876
>just contact TL directly for that.
Clearly you're reading the criticism directly right now.
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Does nuclear weapons have HOLY attribute or just FIRE?
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>>160537908
And?
I'm not the TL so quality won't change.
You can't be sure TL cares or even reads your whining so why do that?
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>>160537378
This tl is so bad it seems like a troll desu
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>>160537827
Bitching is a complaint, a complaint is not a criticism
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>>160537921
>Holy
Fucking why?
Probably light, fire, blunt then poison.
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>>160537876
>But bitching about free manga TL I don't understand no matter how you explain it to me.
Do you understand bitching about people complaining?
Because instead of just few posts complaining about TL quality we have 200 posts of shitposting.
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>tfw no nabe drama CD
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>>160537906
You consider the presentation of the work that depicts Ainz-sama as "trivial"?
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>>160537926
If you care this much then the "real TL" must be furious.
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MALE VALKYRIES
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>>160537948
You forgot to add, "About trivial matters."

>>160537956
Roleplay aside, yeah.
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>>160537921
>Does nuclear weapons have HOLY attribute
They do in Strain.
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>>160537952
>>160537957
I'm asking why they do that because I legit fail to see the point, all I get till now is this >>160537381
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>>160537968
It's as trivial as anything discussed in this imageboard in general, so it'd be criticism by this board's metric.
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>>160537950
>light
Doesn't it count as Holy as well?
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>>160537990
>So it'd be criticism...
You mean griping.
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>>160537988
>I'm asking why they do that
Because this is a board for discussing anime and manga related material including free fan translations, and the quality thereof.
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>>160537993
idk, we'll need DnD anon for that one.
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>>160538015
I guess whining is included in that.
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>>160538015
Page 10 and I get the answer: they just wanted to discuss it, but exaggerated the value of their posts by pretending they're fighting to better the quality.
I get it now.
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>>160538008
It could be griping if it was trivial by the board's standards, this is a board dedicated to trivial things. Free fan translations make up a bulk of the discussion that takes place here.
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>>160538043
It's trivial by all standards.
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>>160538047
What a polite skeleton.
>>
>>160538043
>Admits it's trivial.
Okay then. It's griping.
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>>160538058
I'm sure the translator thought so, and that's why he spent so little effort in the manga
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>>160538058
Fuck off, normalfag, animu and mangos are serious business
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>>160538023
/tg/ here. I've never really seen any d&d version or any of the d20's that use the same system attribute Holy (positive energy) to a nuke without player shenanigans being involved in changing the damage type. It is typically a heat/fire/radiation based damage on the flash and massive bludgeoning/concussive damage on the blast
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>>160538081
It's also criticism, according to definition 2.
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>>160538091
Yeah? No one cares. Go do a better job if you're so good at it.

>>160538097
More like azn bznz.
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>>160538114
>Yeah? No one cares
You clearly cared a whole lot.
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>>160538114
Clearly some people do care. Hence our conversation.
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>>160538110
>using the less accurate definition is the same thing!
lol no That's not how subsets work.
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Let's appreciate Evil alignment characters more.
>>160538115
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>>160538136
>>160538137
I griped about your griping. Cared about the quality? Not so much.

Cry more.
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>>160538158
>Cry more
I don't need to, you've already filled our cry quota and then some.
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>>160538114
>azn bznz.
I'm sorry, I don't speak monkey, normalfag.
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>>160538108
What we're asking if light-based attack count as holy attribute.
Say you construct a bigass mirror or flashlight and point it at lich or vampire.
What type of damage will it take?
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>>160538140
It's not inaccurate whatsoever, it fits to a T.
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>>160538168
>I'm not crying you're crying!
Crybaby.
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>>160538144
We don't really need another thread right now with how peopel are acting. Let this one die out
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>>160538183
But anon can change to the better!
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>>160538180
Maybe you'll release something of better quality next time.
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>>160538175
Fire, in 3.5. There are spells that shoot out a beam of light that deal positive energy, but normal, non-magical, radiation is fire-typed
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>>160538208
Not with your low-quality griping I won't.
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>>160538246
If the TL was as high quality as my criticism none of this would have happened.
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>>160535484
>Rainbow is pure
Other dragons think otherwise.
>>160536367
No. We have run out of things to discuss a long time ago.
Let's wait for the new volume, special or at least for a movie.
>>160536955
>But you can call out shit being shit
Yes, you can. But the thing is, it's meaningless.
This activity is utterly pointless, therefore you look kind of like the person trying to scoop the sea using a sieve.
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>>160538282
>crying about free things
>high quality criticism
laughinggirls.png
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>>160538318
The best things in life are free. Sadly this free thing was bad enough to warrant that beating your ego took.
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