Is tsundere, if done right, the best archetype? Pic related

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Sure is.

>>160434991
Ojou is the best Archetype.

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I am Ruplong, the Avenger of Samples.

I want to make that angel fall!

>>160435224
That's a hero, not an angel.

>>160435237
She's a half angel, actually.

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>>160434991
It is. Emi is a fine example.

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>>160434991
Hmm, yeah. That has always been the case.

>>160434991
Real talk. Is /a/ considered tsundere done right or is /a/'s tsun too extreme as a hate machine even to things they enjoy in secret?

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Any archetype if done right is the best, because it appeals to the group that loves said archetype. The problem with popular archetypes like tsundere is that they're overdone and too often done poorly and tainting their archetype by association with the shittiness.

>>160435381
I don't think I've seen dere from /a/ before beyond ironic memes. Then again, I probably don't know what dere even look like coming from /a/.

>>160435507
/a/ can be plenty dere, but we save it up for those special moments where you don't see it coming.

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>>160434991
In my opinion, yes. They have incredible charm that pulls you in from the cute love-hate sassy chemistry that other archetypes don't have on top of romantic development or straight-up bromance...or even both.

>>160434991

Yes, if done right no other archetype can match the chemistry and development a tsundere can bring to a pairing.

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>>160434991
yes

>>160435961
Was Akiha even tsun to Shiki?
She was Tsun to everyone but Shiki and the maids iirc

>>160434991
If you've read and seen Boys Over Flowers then you'd know the answer. It's a yes, btw.

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Emi thread? Emi thread.

>>160435332

classic

>>160435989
Yes, she treats him excessively harsh because she wants to distance her feelings for him. As her route progresses she becomes a lot more relaxed and less strict around him. A good example is the dinner table. Since Shiki's first day, any bit of noise he made with his cutlery at the table would cause Akiha to glare at him. Further on in the route Shiki mentions that she no longer becomes upset at him making noise at the table. Although she is tsundere, her reason for being tsun is far more complex and interesting compared to other girls (even though Tsukihime writing is absolute trash). I really believe she is the pinnacle of tsun.

>>160436139
Post her angry/serious face, it's the cutest.

>>160435400
>>160434991
You cannot do a genki archetype wrong, it's impossible. That's why it's the best.

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>>160436257
Genki is fucking boring and they are usually airheads. Pic related is the only one I like.

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>>160436139
My tsundere wife and the mother of my baby daughter can't be this cute.

>>160434991
The only time a tsundere would ever be done right is if the girl was originally an antagonist, which never fucking happens.

>>160436383
Oh you mean like in OP`s pic?

>>160434991
Only if you're a cuck

>>160436257
Far from true. Example, Tenma Tsukamoto was annoying.

>>160436425
Not agreeing with Genki being always good, but Tenma is like a rare case because she never liked Harima.

>>160436383
Why would that matter? Bad guys are almost never the main leads in a story.

>>160436368
>>160436425
That means they're doing it right.

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>>160434991
Correct.

>>160436479
I don't think it's rare. The more annoying ones tend to be overly hyper, so random, and so forth. Usually there is more mediocrity or bad than good in virtually everything that can be measured in quality.

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>>160436251
>>160436379
I lost my emi folder, help me get them back fellow emibros.

>>160436668
>>>/c/ >>>/wsr/

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/c/ is dead, /wsr/ wouldn't even bother.

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>>160436668
I'm feeling quite lazy tonight. Sorry, mate. Have this though.

>>160436710
Then use pixiv and the boorus instead. /a/ is not really for image dumps, and especially not requested ones.

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>>160436740
no worries
>>160436744
okay

tsundere chestlets are the best

Tsunderes are for anal sex.

Tsunderes are for tender love making

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Tsunderes are best when they go full submissive when dere.

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>>160437164
My black compatriot.

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Should I reread the novels, or should I start where anime ended? And what novels were adapted?

>>160437303
Novels > manga > anime. Read it from the start.

Tsunderes are a pain. If a girl called me baka, I would call her a bitch and ignore her after that.
How is that for a love story huh?

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>>160437406
Is it really worth it rereading story I already know?

>>160437303
No need to, only differences I remember between ln and anime are emi being much more likeable, emerada telling her that her mother was living with her for some time and olba not being involved with sariel events. Read them anyway.

>>160437830
The anime followed the novels to an extent, but it's not as faithful enough to be a good adaptation. Plus you miss out on descriptive narrative and character thoughts that lets you in the character's mind, emotions, and all that jazz. Try the manga if you want to go over it faster. It's more faithful than the anime and more than twice the moe/dere that the anime altered/removed..

>>160435332
Last time I've seen this image, 4chan was still run by Moot.

>>160437998
But the anime has dat emi voice

>>160438032
>Moot
Who?

>>160438032
It's spelled moot, you goon.

>>160437303
You have a lot of catching up to do. The translated ones are up to vol 14 right now. Emi's already showing her dere side.

>>160437830
You're missing out on a lot since a lot has happened after the anime and the manga is isn't even halfway through the current translated novels. Don't you want to see Maou rescuing Emi, riding his moped through Ente Isla? Shit's great read.

>>160434991
No.
Because even Tsundere done right is still not a romance
It's puppy love.
I want actual dates and interactions, not 'Will they, won't they?' and Tsuns don't do that because going on a date is acceptance which goes against their convention.

>>160438040
That is one merit anime has over a LN medium. The other is OST and setting design. It's quite natural for fans to use the voice of the anime seiyuus after an anime adaptation has been made when reading the source material in their head.

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>>160434991

The Recent one is Diana from LWA.
Singlehandledly saving TV LWA from flopping to the bottom.

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>>160438110
>>160437998
>>160437974
>>160437406
Any way to pirate the LNs?

>>160438419
madokami.

>>160434991
Emi is so fucking good because she really dislikes him at first and SLOWLY falls for him.

That aside she is cute, brave, pure, kind, honourable, smart, level-headed and has have a hard life.

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>>160438419
took me 5 minutes in google.
https://mega.nz/#F!QEZHRZyZ!O570lUTb4QVNCSCL5MaUFw

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>>160438963
>anon #1 asks for sauce
>anon #2 provides hint
>think maybe I'll look for it myself when I'm not feeling too lazy to breathe
>anon #3 provides the sauce directly
>get everything without asking to be spoonfed

>>160434991
No. Emi isn't even the best girl in her own show let alone an example of best archetype.

Why is the back and forth Nature of tsunderes so appealing to /a/ ?

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>>160439630
False. Emi is best girl and OTP material by far.

>>160439630
>Emi isn't even the best girl
We all love alas=ramus, but come on anon..

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Don't forget the best girl

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>>160434991
Without a doubt.

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>>160438963
Great anon delivers.

>>160434991
Yes, but she needs to have something that backs up the way she is, and that as the progresses the said character needs to change her interactions with her destined love interest.

Emi has all that.

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a nigga I know posted this an said hes gonna kill me
Is he tsun or should I be concerned

>>160434991
A tsundere done right is okay, but nowhere near actually feminine non-abrasive archetypes like hajidere, genki and ara ara. Most of the time, though, they're cancer that actively ruin their series.

>>160434991
No. Tsundere is inherently a detrimental character trait, even if ultimately they're a well done character. Unless being tsundere serves some greater narrative purpose, such as the psychological exposes in Evangelion, any tsundere character would be better off not being tsundere. But even then, while Asuka might be a good character, she's still a dislikable bitch that earns some moderate sympathy.

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>>160446931
Posting best family.

>>160438963

Any chance of getting 11-14 dumped too?

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>>160434991
No

Anybody have the volume 14 ebook? I can't find it on madokami.

>>160448292
Here you go, https://a.doko.moe/utygrg.pdf
Anyone have any idea whats going on with madokami? Its seems deserted like never before.

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>>160434991

Yes

>>160436379
my husband's daughter

>>160448172

that left wing dominance in the House of Tsunderepresentatives

>>160438136
Who is she tsundere for? There's no romance in LWA.

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>>160434991
No, because any tsundere that you label as tsundere is bad by default, there is no something as "good tsundere" because if you actually thought she was "good" you wouldn't call her a tsundere, because that wouldn't be the reason why you like her.

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>>160448172
>>160449594

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>>160450781
Did you even bother to read or just needed a bump? And how is Sena a tsundere in any way.

>>160449263
You can have tsundere without romance

>>160450781
Regardless of the girls, whoever did this had a pretty shit taste.

>>160434991
Yeah but it's the easiest character archetype to fuck up.
Mostly because if you make the tsun part the only appealing character trait then you're either forced to keep them tsun forever defeating the point, or you shift them away from the plot once they go dere.

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>blond
>rich
>flat chested and insecure about it

>>160442314
>>160438963
I take it back.
Not reading shitty scans.

>>160450781
>Autistic ESL-kun is here
Oh boy.

>>160434991
It is by far the best, that's why it is the most popular.

Pure tsundere girls are a miracle that only exists in the 3d world.