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I read up on Unit 731, watched a documentary about it and I'm

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I read up on Unit 731, watched a documentary about it and I'm starting to see parallels to some manga and anime. Are young(er) japanese people still trying to deal with this stuff or is it just coincidence? Things that come to mind are Made in Abyss, Shinsekai Yori, Knights of Sidonia (kinda), Gantz, basically anime or manga that depicts some kind of society or system that treats people like nothing but materials or objects to further some larger goal. Complete dehumanisation of people.

So is it just me or does this kinda seem like it's the japanese dealing with the horrors that were commited at that time? Also, if anything comes to mind that would fit the description I gave then please tell me, I'm looking for more of this kinda stuff.
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nanking no real
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>>160288543
It's just you. The Japs don't give a shit. Stop trying to sound deep.
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>>160288613
I'm not trying to sound deep at all, I just read up on this stuff and saw some parallels.
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>>160288543
>modern japanese dealing with horrors
Since the government and educational system are working in the full denial and suppression mode, most japanese don't care about any war crimes. Especially when the scariest of them have happened at the secret units.
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>>160288543
>blah blah blah
>by the way, recommend me some anime
You're seeing intent that isn't there. And about the second part, read the rules and try another website. /a/ is not your personal search engine, and there are plenty of anime databases out there.
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>>160288709
Parallels don't work
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>>160288543
It's a product of their culture. Don't be mistaken, they would do it again in same circumstances. Just give them an order.
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>>160288956
As in japanese supremacy? But the examples I gave don't really depict it in a great light from what I got out of it.
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>>160288996
No; I believe what he means is that Japanese work culture can be summarized as "do what the corporation tells you to do". This has largely become accepted as the 'correct' method of working in their social structure. The implication made therefore is that a significant portion of the Japanese military retains the potential to commit atrocities by way of following orders.

On Japanese work culture, since you seem to be interested in their world in general:
http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in-japan/
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this probably has more to do with it
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>>160289777
Interesting, I'll check it out. But I suppose having an emperor who is literally a god-like figure also has something to do with it, you can't be wrong with god on your side after all.
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Maybe they just read this, this is was worse than Unit 731 as it wasn't even war times, but US experimenting on their own people, black slaves, orphans etc, way longer and a on a WAY greater scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

"The experiments include: the exposure of people to chemical and biological weapons (including infection of people with deadly or debilitating diseases), human radiation experiments, injection of people with toxic and radioactive chemicals, surgical experiments, interrogation and torture experiments, tests involving mind-altering substances, and a wide variety of others. Many of these tests were performed on children,[1] the sick, and mentally disabled individuals, often under the guise of "medical treatment". In many of the studies, a large portion of the subjects were poor, racial minorities, or prisoners[citation needed].

Funding for many of the experiments was provided by the United States government, especially the United States military, Central Intelligence Agency, or private corporations involved with military activities[citation needed]. The human research programs were usually highly secretive, and in many cases information about them was not released until many years after the studies had been performed."
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>>160288715
Still better than China that forbids international research on their own war crimes too.
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>>160290169
Wow I thought only Japan did bad stuff, wtf america.
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>>160288543
you see it more in older anime and older anime creators. stuff like miyazaki or grave of the fireflies.they were kids when WWII was going on.
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>>160290279
>only Japan
What is Germany? Who is Mengele?
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>>160290169
Don't forget how they regularly poisoned alcohol brewing ingredients during the prohibition era to kill countless citizens just to make a show of how dangerous illegal breweries were.
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>>160290455
It was a jest.
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>>160290462
Meanwhile the President has stills in the whitehouse
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>>160290169
Playing who was worse it a pointless game, to be human is to live with a legacy of genocide and madness.
That isn't the point of this thread don't derail.
Faggot.
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>>160288543

I've recently noticed someone banging the Unit 731 drum hard on a bunch of sites (such as Quora). Think it's just some obsessed Korean or Chinese sperglord, or is it a whole bunch of them?
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>>160290816
Jordan B. Peterson mentioned it fairly recently and he has a big following. That could have something to do with it.
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>>160290921
>>160290816
it was relatively well known for a long time. It didnt just get popular
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>>160290921
That guy was my professor back in college, what
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>>160290169
I know that we are drastically diverging from the OP's topic but, in the case of providing specific examples of "unethical experimentation in the United States", I feel that I should direct you all to one case of particularly egregious infamy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
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>>160290978
Of course it was known but he has a large internet presence and him mentioning it and telling people to look it up would stir interest in it resulting in it coming up more often.
>>160290991
And now he's making 15000+$ monthly additionally to his university pay.
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>>160290816
Maybe they increased the shill wage from 50 cents to a whole shilling.
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>>160291046
I don't mind but we should probably keep it somewhat anime related. MK Ultra would also fall under these unethical practices in the US I guess.
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南京大虐殺はして起こっていない。。。
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>>160290639
It's a fair point though. To claim that all Japanese dystopian media are reflections of their WWII crimes is just as retarded as saying that all American dystopian literature was written as a ways to cope with the crimes commited by the US government.
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>>160291178
>To claim that all Japanese dystopian media are reflections of their WWII crimes
I never claimed that.
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>>160290991
now he's an alt-right memelord
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>>160291411
>alt-right

He's not even a Trump supporter and he's a Christian.
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>>160288543
>watched a documentary about it

It doesn't happen to be Chinese, does it?
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>chinks ang gooks
>human
Pick one and only one.
And since we're on this subject, a lot of good medical research came out of Unit 731 and some of Mengele's work in Germany.
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>>160291411
lol, no he isn't. He's conservative at worst, center right would be most accurate IMO.
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>>160291480
he many not be one but he certainly panders to them
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>>160290462
Good. Fuck alcoholics.
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>>160291728
How? Where is he advocating for a white ethno-state? Where does he address the Jewish question? People have no fucking clue what alt-right means.
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>>160291178
This. Colonialism is already an inherent influence to all the culture you ever could encounter in the world, atrocity isn't special.
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>>160291673
Don't forget Operation Paperclip.

If you went into NASA and yelled "Sieg Heil" around the time of the moon landing, everyone's hands would spring up.

>>160291728
In what way, exactly?
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>>160291751
>Good, let the government murder hard working, tax paying citizens.
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>>160288543
>every series that involves human experimentation or "some kind of society or system that treats people like nothing but materials or objects to further some larger goal" is influenced by Unit 731
Are you retarded? This is a basic-ass theme.
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>>160291773
his views aren't alt-right, they just overlap with them in some respects, so even though he doesn't really have any terrible opinions himself he props up people who do and he's too arrogant to care
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>>160288543
The japanese have regressed to extreme levels of work commitment, introversion and traditionalism after they got nuked and their entire world view of "japan is the best, home of gods!" got flattened like Hiroshima.

At the same time they don't know how to deal with the fact that their soldiers acted like inhumane monsters towards the chinese, which is hilarious considering most japanese culture is just bastardized chinese culture.
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>>160291786
Good times, good times.
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>>160291885
Why should he care? You can't choose and you aren't responsible for who is watching your content, it's on the internet for everyone to see. What do you expect him to do?
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>>160291882
Again, where did I say every series? I just noticed a theme and how it might be related to some specific historical events. Wouldn't you say that German media and culture was heavily influenced by them losing the war and being confronted with their war crimes?
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>>160291949
He can't agree with the "alt-right" boogymen on a single thing, obviously.

Agreeing with one single point a person makes means you agree with everything a person has ever said, obviously.
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>>160288543
That's for such a /pol/ plus chink invasion thread OP.
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>>160292094
>That's
Meant to thank.
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>>160289777
>http://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in-japan/
who would have thought a mere article would make one feel both anger and despair simultaneously.
Glad I don't live there.
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>>160291949
he does lectures specifically targeted at them, he does interviews and debates with them, he retweets them, he panders to them however he can while specifically ignoring how cancerous they are

>>160292019
the modern german mindset is very much influenced by the war, alot more than the japanese
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>>160292094
>>160292154
You're welcome, and sorry for disrupting your important conversations about lolis, waifus and "what would you do to her?!" threads.
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>>160288543
>Unit 731

do you try to get banned?

731 was the closest Japan ever got to having an actual SS unit (since it was just up to each officer independently whether or not he wanted to be an asshole.)
One day, some one will use the 731st as ammo against the Japanese when the japanese don't yield to their political ideals.

mark my words.

back to anime: if you really want to see examples of how japan deals with the issue, see Zipang. They have obvious culture clash between 1942 and 2000. what is very funny is how the (SPOILERS POSSIBLE) men from both times distrust and work against each other while keeping up good face as Japanese.

to be fair, Japan has yet to linger on the subject of themselves in WWII, and it is rare to find WWII based anime -showing Japan- that don't just go straight to Germany and Russia (their favorites)
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>>160292208
Get over yourself faggot.
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>>160292174
>he does lectures specifically targeted at them
What? Which lectures?
>he does interviews and debates with them
What's wrong with that? Guilt by association? Go fuck yourself.
>he retweets them
Again, who cares? You can retweet stupid things to mock people and even stupid people make good points sometimes.
>he panders to them however he can while specifically ignoring how cancerous they are
How?
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>>160292208
>implying you would enjoy more discussing about muh crimes instead of 2D's perfection
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>>160292313
>:^)
I'm glad we are graced with the presence of another quality poster.
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>>160292244
Why would I get banned?
>Zipang
I'll check it out, thanks.
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>>160288543
not anime.
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>>160292261
how? I've just told you how. I don't believe in guilt by association but you have a responsbility when you preach something to understand how the audience is intepreting it. He has a whole series of lectures on basically how to be a man which taken on their own have nothing wrong with them but when they're being used as fuel for a ridiculous cultural/political war I think you have a responsbility for the people who look up to you. Instead he turns a blind eye to all the ridiculous /pol/ shit because it's making him famous
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>>160292159
Still, you have to admit that Taro seems like a pretty awesome guy.
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>>160292405
You are the one shitting up the thread, I just said that chink /pol/ threads are the worst /pol/ threads but so far this one is kind of civilized. Glad that you showed the quality of your posts.
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>>160292428
>which taken on their own have nothing wrong with them
Then there's nothing wrong with them. Again, this is publicly available on the internet, he can't choose his audience and the alt-right is a tiny, loud minority of it. Should he censor himself? Address them and give them attention? What should he do in your eyes?
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>>160292428

Do you also believe rock and metal musicians are partially responsible for school shootings?
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>>160292513
>but so far this one is kind of civilized
Great, then let's leave it at that. This isn't any kind of /pol/ thread though, just to be clear. It just derailed a bit.
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>>160288543
Bondrewd definitely reminded me of Unit 731
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>>160292602
Yup, that's absolutely where I got the association from. Before that it was just violent but that part of the manga was just fucked up.
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>>160292446
yeah, it was a good read.
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>>160288543
You know what, japs were a total assholes. But what about colonialism and poor indians and africans had a hard times. Only Russia were a """good""" guy and tortured their own people.
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>>160291673
Mengele just stitched twins together for the fuck of it. He can hardly be considered a doc.
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>>160292744
What? That has literally nothing to do with anything I said or this thread.
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>>160288543
>some kind of society or system that treats people like nothing but materials or objects to further some larger goal

No, this is just how Japan sees people in general.
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>>160292540
I'm not telling him what he should do but pandering to militant hateful losers just because they like your work shows pretty poor character. You can choose your auidence. If you make more lectures on things the alt-right cares about, you're choosing them as your audience. He talked about a variety of topics before he was popular but now he's picking the ones they like the most, because they make him more popular.

>>160292542
No, it's a bad analogy anyway seeing there's barely any connection there, depressed people listen to music for depressed people? You might aswell blame video games
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>>160292744
Start listing humans and we'll care.

>>160292777
You got memed for being a retard, he did a bunch of research on hypothermia and such.
And yes, he also did research on real twins and fake twins but saddly his findings were lost forever; the small town in south america where he lived still has an very high and abnormal blue-eyed blonde twin rate.
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>>160292929
>the small town in south america where he lived still has an very high and abnormal blue-eyed blonde twin rate.
If I recall right that's a story made up to attract tourists.
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>>160292898
>If you make more lectures on things the alt-right cares about, you're choosing them as your audience.
You're letting a small and loud minority have influence over you if you follow that. "Oh can't talk about that, the alt-right might like it!" It's stupid. I'll judge him for HIS opinions and his work, not for whether it's popular with some group of people.
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>>160292982
yeah it is stupid, but it's the unfortunate truth, and they're not exactly a small minority now
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>>160292929
>the small town in south america where he lived still has an very high and abnormal blue-eyed blonde twin rate
That anomaly has always creeped me out. Just what the fuck could he have done, or known, you know?
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>>160293035
What do you define as "alt-right", exactly?

hard mode: don't mention trump or /pol/
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>>160293050
it's bullshit
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>>160293035
They are. They are an incredibly small minority except if you define "alt-right" way too broadly. They're just loud.
Also, right now he's doing a massive lecture series over his interpretation of the biblical stories and their significance, something he has been working in for decades. Is that "not alt-right" enough for you?
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>>160292969
If you can build up a logical case on why that town still has so many aryan twins, do go ahead and enlighten the world.
Otherwise it's Mengele's fault because Candido Godoi still holds the abnormal twin rate.
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>>160293081
how do you define such a nebulous term?

>>160293091
I can't see them as incredibly small when the president of the us retweets pictures of pepe the frog and you can't have a thread about nazis on 4chan without multiple people jumping in sincerely believing that hitler did nothing wrong
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>>160290169
MKULTRA was some sick shit too
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>>160290921
Yeah, it's probably this, I literally watched the video where he instructed people to look it up today.
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>>160293166
Wow....
2 major talking points, a white ethnostate and the Jewish problem. That's the alt-right in a nutshell. Anyone who doesn't agree or deal with these things is considered alt-lite by the alt-right themselves.

IT'S A FUCKING CARTOON FROG JESUS CHRIST IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHITE SUPREMACY. You got memed if you seriously think that. But you might just be trolling me since you're apparently also taking "Hitler did nothing wrong" seriously.
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>>160293166

>Pepe is an alt-right hate symbol

Please tell me you aren't one of those people.
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>>160293166

You must be new. You're taking shitposting memery seriously.

How do define it?

By using words and not pop culture fads and shitposts on 4chan.

You know, policies? What does an "alt-right" domestic and foreign policy look like?


What you are seeing is political trolling, not actual political ideals.
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>>160293166
Yummy.
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>>160293271
pepe is used by the alt-right. why are you pretending it's not? Ive seen many people who seriously think hitler did nothing wrong (apart from losing)
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>>160293300
Did anyone ever claim it was a formal political movement? It's an online troll movement, but it's still a movement, and alot of retards take their crazy ideas seriously
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>>160293356
>Ive seen many people who seriously think hitler did nothing wrong (apart from losing)
Why do you care?
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>>160293258
Also it had me thinking if anything, the Japanese obsession with cuteness is like a rejection of the horrors of their past, they're infantilising themselves as a nation so as to avoid facing that sort of thing

And that's similar to how WWII affected Germany's national character to the point it is today where they're self flagellating to repent for all the shit they've done - to the point that they're actually going to far with it and now they're set to destabilise Europe once again with their good intentions this time
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>>160293356
Jesus, you're serious, aren't you?
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>>160293356
Get a load of this faggot.
Poor kikes, right?
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>>160293422
why does anyone care if they see someone else believing ridiculous bullshit?
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>>160293356
This is fucking hilarious. Please go on.
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>>160293412
No they don't, it's fucking memery you asshat. They don't actually worship a fucking frog god.

Too high IQ for you
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>>160293356
So are spoons. Are spoons a symbol of the alt-right? Pepe was used by lots of people in lots of different ways before Hilary declared that cartoon frog as being on the same level as the Nazi swastika
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誰か俺を呼ばれたか
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>>160293538
Obviously I was referring to the white supremacy and not the frog god worshipping
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>>160293577
>a movement of essentially neonazis is using a smug looking appropriated cartoon frog as their main symbol
Makes total sense.
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>>160293577
most of them openly note Asians are better in terms of IQ and shit, though. Is it really white supremacy then?
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>>160293631
It does sounds pretty wacky when you put it like that.
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>>160293639
I don't think there's an official alt-right policy on what to believe about other races, and racial superiority is more of an emotional thing, the facts don't matter (unless they support your position)
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>>160293688
The same cartoon frog that has been used for several years by all kinds of people, put in dresses, drawn as a girl, drawn as an autistic raging child, drawn sucking its own dick while taking a shit, drawn as fast food mascots and tweeted out by some of these companies, tweeted out by celebrities and also by the current president of the united states of america. That cartoon frog. It's literally THE symbol of a neonazi movement.

Are you sure that you believe that?
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>>160293738
> I was referring to the white supremacy

>I don't think there's an official alt-right policy on what to believe about other races


Well, okay.
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>>160293828
and the swastika was an indian religious symbol. Does that mean it's not a nazi symbol?
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>>160293899
Only if it's being used by a Nazi.
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>>160293899
>was

still is
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>>160293925
They'd have it backwards if that was the case
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>>160293899
The Nazis adopted the swastika and in its very specific form it became that symbol. The swastika on Buddhist statues or in India is not a Nazi symbol. Also, the point I was trying to make, would a neonazi organisation seriously use this kind of symbol? Pepe the frog? Do you even know how it became to be known as a hate symbol? The meme war against the normies?
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>>160293846
racial superiority is just the belief that your race is superior. That superiority doesn't have to be objectively defined at all. Admitting some other race has a higher IQ than yours doesn't conflict with that
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>>160293999
Not him but good job on showing how new you are.
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>>160294055
k
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>>160294042

I haven't seen any of that. Can you elaborate? Superiority in what?

Maybe you're confusing racial pride and racial superiority.
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>>160289777
Holy shit this article can't be real. How do salarymen not commit suicide.
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>>160294171
you haven't seen any of what? The emotional belief that your race is just superior to others? Have you ever left the house?
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>>160293556
The swastika was, and still is, used by the people of East Asia as a good luck symbol long before the Nazis took it up.

Every symbol the far right has ever used was stolen from somebody else.
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>>160294239
Well yes, but it's not an "alt-right" thing. And usually they will base the superiority on something, like blacks with the "We wuz kings" or whites with "We invented everything".

"Ok, why is your race the best?"

"I just like it the best".

Where have you seen that ^ ?
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>>160294340
People won't come out and say it obviously because they'll be laughed at. But at it's core it's an emotional belief that isn't concerned with facts. You'll just repeat the facts that agree with your viewpoint you've already decided on. Very few racists are objective racists.
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>>160294206
They usually die due to overworking before they reach the mind breakinh point
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>>160294458
So you just know what they're thinking, I understand. T

They might not come out and say whites should rule over everyone else, but that's what they are thinking, right?
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>>160294559
What? I said people won't admit that their beliefs are based on emotion instead of logic. Even though there is scientific basis for racism, most people who are racist are racist because that how's how they feel, not because they made an informed decision based on facts.
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>>160294206
Like he says: for some people, it's a comfortable/enjoyable life. There are less things to worry about if you live like that, as he describes.

And, even if it wouldn't naturally be a comfortable life for some others, they may become culturally conditioned into accepting it.
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>>160294609
And that proves the "Alt-right" is a white supremacist movement how?

And what racism? Can you be a racist without being a race supremacist?

Remember, just acknowledging that race exists makes you a "Racist" now.

So you're a racist.
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>>160288543
japan is shit
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>>160294206
They DO.
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>>160294706
>And that proves the "Alt-right" is a white supremacist movement how?
no? I'm just saying there's no well defined doctrine on how exactly to be a white supremacist, you just have to believe whites are superior
I don't care about splitting hairs over what's 'racist' or not, because like you said, merely acknowledging race exists gets you labelled racist by butthurt americans
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>>160294825
...to ALL other races. I don't see them saying whites are the best and should rule over everyone. You're imagining that. You're taking "white is right" shitposting and taking it seriously.

"Sub-Saharan Africans generally have borderline retardation level IQ"

White supremacist statement?
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>>160294916
>You're taking "white is right" shitposting and taking it seriously
alot of people geniunely do, unfortunately
>White supremacist statement?
statement of truth (or untruth) which has no particular meaning on its own
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What the fuck are you people going on about?
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>>160295177
Thread got derailed, I just wanted to talk about anime that reminds me of unit 731.
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>>160295177

/a/ - political discussion

>>160295216
>Reminds

No, you just learned about 731 today and you felt like being pretentious.
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>>160295268
This again? Should I talk about my waifu instead? Would that be more appropriate?
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>>160295444
You could try making it interesting instead of

"hey Japanese cartoon bored i learned something about Japanese history today"
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>>160288543
>depicts some kind of society or system that treats people like nothing but materials or objects to further some larger goal


Wow, it's almost like a textbook definition of what every country ever does all the time.
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>>160288543
Those themes are universal enough to stand on their own, especially when you're right next to modern China and North Korea, and had the Soviet Union on your doorstep. Nobody cares about dealing with things that happened long before they were born, but authors may be aware that dehumanizing systems actually happen all over the place and aren't just matters of history.

>>160293166
>how do you define such a nebulous term?
Here you go: if you're not part of the establishment right or any form of the traditional right, and you're opposed to the left, you're alt-right. That's why the name says it's alternative and right. The left doesn't like this definition because they don't want to admit the growth of the alt-right involved people would could've settled for the moderate left but got alienated and polarized by the far left taking over.
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>>160295688
>everyone needs to settle for some position on the left-right scale
whatever happened to just not being a fucking retard?
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>>160288543
Kafkaesque
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>>160295807
"I'm too dumb to figure out my own positions" is also an option, sure.
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>>160295922
how about "I'm too smart to let my beliefs be defined by a tug-of-war between two man-made ideologies"
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>>160295807
When there's groups of fucking retards running around saying you're either with them or against them, refusing to take a position just means they'll assign you a position and expect you to take orders.
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>>160296095
yeah, what side are you gonna take up when the pink-haired transsexuals or virgin internet trolls come for you?
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>>160296164
You can be on the left and still be against the far-left SJW's, you know.

Sargon of Akkad is a liberal for fucks sake.
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>>160296212
the point is neither of them are threatening in any way and there's no reason to react or take up positions against them
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>>160296270
well if things like antifa and lobbying didn't exist you'd be right

Would you be ok with it being illegal to "misgender" someone
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>>160296492
>Would you be ok with it being illegal to "misgender" someone
It already is in Soviet Canuckistan.
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>>160296492
no, but I'm not convinced the right way to stop it is to take up an equally stupid opposing position
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>>160296569
the "stupid opposing position" being "I should be able to say whatever i want" ?
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>>160288543
Japan literally has a monument full of 38,000+ Korean human noses taken as war trophies.
The average Japanese person probably gives zero fucks about Unit 731 if they even know it happened at all

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimizuka
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>>160296621
no, that's the reasonable position, being a neo-nazi is the stupid position
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>>160296662
>Japan literally has a monument full of 38,000+ Korean human noses taken as war trophies.
you sure they didn't just raid a plastic surgery clinic?
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>>160296662
nigga that shit was literally hundreds of years ago

>>160296708
Too bad that even saying the phrase "free speech" makes you a nazi now.
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this is an awful thread on /a/ right now, and many other horrors have occurred throughout history to every state
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>>160296764
Holy shit.
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Don't underrate Japanese.
Japanese army was able to kill people at Nanking far more than all citizens live in Nanking, haha
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Don't underrate German.
German army was able to kill jew at Central Europe far more than all jews live in Central Europe, haha
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There are so many anime, manga, LNs, and VNs out there, that you could probably make a connection between it and just about ANYTHING from the real world.
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>>160293356
I've seen dumb before, but it's not often I meet stupid.
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You know you're fucking hopeless when you get triggered by Jordan Peterson of all people.

And Hitler did do something wrong, he tried to deal with international Zionists seeking to establish their own ethnostate to expel the kikes in Germany instead of eradicating them. For decoupling German banking from the Rothschild system, he was stabbed in the back and the nations controlled by Zionists were sent in to firebomb and rape all hope of nobility from Europa (as well as Japan, which correctly sided with the nationalist powers against global Jewry).

It still amazes me to what extent 4chan has been colonized by Marxist scum.
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>>160297743
>And Hitler did do something wrong
Stopped reading right there. I hope you never propagate you nazi scum.
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>>160297743
>alt-righters are all trolling, they don't really believe this guys
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まだ俺を呼ばれるか
で、何を
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>>160288543
>depicts some kind of society or system that treats people like nothing but materials or objects to further some larger goal.
And what does this have to do with Unit 731?
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>>160297842
Unfortunately my views are incompatible with textbook National Socialism because I favor forms of government which include aristocracies and monarchies, plus there isn't a National Socialist party for me to join, therefore I am not a National Socialist.
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>>160292409
source material

see Zipang

get the fuck out.
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I thought I went to /pol/ accidentally.
Mods, can you just fucking kill this thread this is hardly /a/ related.
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>>160290261
What war crimes?
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>>160294776
yes, they do. out of stress, or shame. suicide is actually a valid method of quitting in japan, no shit.

>>160295444

yeah.

sad fact:
Japan is -way- fuckign /pol/ it's hard to not see it with IP like TerraFormars and Youjo Senki being as popular as they are.

a lot of anime have lines that...i shit you not, american Sub and Dub crews twist so they will fit into an american viewership's expectation.
it's often very subtle, like word choices or changing the tense or phrasing.

because anime woudn't sell as well if it was as offensive as it really was in japanese.
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>>160296884
Context check.
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>>160296047
i like you.

you need a greater voice.
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>>160297743
>Rothschild system

?
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>>160298873
just because japan is traditional does not make it /pol/
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>>160298945
Most national banks are currently owned by the Rothschilds.
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>>160297842
>says hitler is wrong
>calls him a Nazi

dude. did you just....?

have a facist waifu!
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>>160299078
I don't know who they are.
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>>160298951
true,
but i've experienced japanese racism before. it's ...interesting, it's IRL, and it reminds me too much of /pol/ to not associate it.

sorry!

more waifu's?
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>>160299183
If only there were some engine you can use to search indexed pages on the internet for information on this subject.
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>>160299183
an old banking family who secretly control the entire world using their jew powers
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>>160299210
>>160298873
Honestly, it sounds like you took a semester or two of Japanese in university, and then visited the country for a week, feeling attacked whenever an old man would spit near you or nobody would sit next to you on the train.

I've lived here for years and I say you're full of shit.
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not in japan!

this is now a cute nazi thread.
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Smells like a fucking rec thread. Kill yourself.
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>>160299233
It's the banking that they use to control others, Jewish mysticism is largely hollow save for a basic understanding of how to harvest energy through torture and attaining longevity through the consumption of youthful blood. Those sorts of rituals aren't so much for influencing others (although participation in the rape, murder, and consumption of children is used to control people through blackmail) as they are for fortifying oneself. Semites are by their very nature unable to cultivate themselves to higher levels of spiritual attainment. The control systems they employ are in fact based around the suppression of the development of others such that a materialist paradigm is the only possible result, which should be characterized as scheming rather than the application of a power.
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>>160299501
Smells like a whole lot besides just a rec thread.
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>>160299437
Now tell me how their immigration policy isn't /pol/

Or the demographics

When Japs first encountered black people they had to be told by the Americans of all people that they were actually people and not some summoned demon things
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>>160299538
>When Japs first encountered black people they had to be told by the Americans of all people that they were actually people and not some summoned demon things
source
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>>160299538
>immigration policy isn't /pol/
In the past several years, the length of time necessary to become a permanent resident has shrunk from 10 years to only five.

It's an island country with a unique writing system so it's ethnologically homogeneous, much like any other island country save Hawaii.

And that is a perfectly natural reaction to black people.
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Nanking never happened
Holohoax was greatly exaggerated
Italy can't join next time
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>>160299538
>Or the demographics
>Japan's demographics are /pol/
Now I've seen it all.
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>>160299538
generic racism or xenophobia isn't /pol/
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>>160299538
Source.
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>>160299538
If I saw some extremely dark fuck for the first time I'd be spooked as well.
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>>160299606
The Rising Sun by John Tolland has a reference to the original Japanese mention. forgot the page, it's a late Solomons chapter

>>160299437
service
it was not directed at me.
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>>160299683
>The Rising Sun by John Tolland
well thanks for the effort at least.
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>>160296764
Holy shit my sides.
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>>160288543
>Implying they know about about this
Japanese education has a few pages worth of content about the whole WWII, and anything all they do is lie by omission.
My wife lived in japan almost a year, and she couldn't believe how ignorant the average citizen is about themselves and the rest of the world
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>>160300399
>my wife was an English teaching monkey for a year and she understands a country of people she couldn't communicate with
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>>160291673
Japs are way less human than Chinese and Koreans.
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>>160293356
Pepe's popularity stemmed from the "feels good man" panel of the comic being used as a meme. The "feels bad" variant grew in popularity among roneryfags/tfwnogf/other self-pitying socially maladapted sad-sack faggots that wannabe nazis love recruiting because they're directionless, have no principals and will blindly attack any target so they have something to hate more than they hate themselves.

There's a correlation, but it doesn't make Pepe a "hate symbol" like whatever retarded website tried to say so, and Matt Furie really hates Boy's Club being associated with these wastes of air.
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>>160300890
The problem is that you haven't fucked off back to /pol/ yet,
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>>160298873
>a lot of anime have lines that...i shit you not, american Sub and Dub crews twist so they will fit into an american viewership's expectation.

Name five.
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>>160296095
What >>160296164 said. Why do you care what other people think of you?
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>>160301059
i'm sure the people who made the swaztika don't approve of the nazi appropriation of it either, it still becomes a symbol regardless of the original intent of the author
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>>160300399
Most people are ignorant "about themselves and the rest of the world", mostly because most people don't have any time to worry about things that aren't family/news that come from totally independent sources.
If you don't have an interest in history and your government doesn't focus on teaching it/keeping the memories and achievements of previous generations alive you will simply not know about it. Or at least you'll know little of it. We might live in an interconnected and globalized world now but that does not mean that people actually understand each other so much better and have a better idea of what's going on outside of their circle. Just because YOU think you know something about another country does not mean that it's actually true or in anyway shape or form happening.
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>>160301294
Everyone knows telling lies over the internet is impossible.
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>>160288543
No. Not really, OP. Even the popularity of isekai and Your Name reflect the young demographics more than what you're talking about.
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>>160298563
Exactly.
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>>160288543
>you wake up and your thread is still alive
People were right.
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>>160291673
>>>/pol/
Please stay in your containment board.
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>>160303405
:^)
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>>160293081
Co-opted outrage over a black president. The obsession of "revealing" corruption in the government through willful ignorance and impotent rage. My biggest issue with you guys isn't electing a morally bankrupt man child who only works in his own self interest, it's the blind faith you seem to have in him. Like SJW's any legitimate criticism just results in name calling and race baiting.
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>>160303520
That's a great impression of a delusional idiot, it made me laugh while thinking that there are actually people as lost and indoctrinated as that.
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>>160296047
But not smart enough to make your ideas real, good job making no headway and letting "stupid" people implement policy.
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>>160303520
All that anger and guess what? Trump is still your president for another 3+ years :>
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>>160288543
>meme 731
Yeah we know, war is bad, people get hurt and die
Nobody actually gives a shit and guilt over something you didn't do is retarded
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>>160288543
>horrors that were commited at that time
NANKRING NO REAL DUMB GAIJIN NIPPON STRONG.
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>>160291751
My dad drank too anon but you need to let it go
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>>160303740
I know, can I not express my disatisfaction with my leader and still have him be in power? Or are they gonna throw a clause into that "no challenging Israel bill" to include trump?

You know I didn't even hate trump that much before he got power? I had this delusional hope, not that he'd be competent at this mind you, but that he'd show some strength of character and actually try to help. Bit no I had to listen to him bitch about people not fawning over him and have the balls to just keep lying about pointless things with a straight goddamned face. Though what pisses me off the most is the one god damned thing I hoped he would have done, call Saudi Arabia out on all of its shit. But no we get a limp twisted "religious ban" on countries that have never attacked us directly and are to poor to show any kind of a threat but to their own people we've "abandoned" (I've put quotes because without them would imply the government ever really cared for them)
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>>160288543
>seem like it's the japanese dealing with the horrors that were commited at that time?
You got it all wrong. They arent dealing with it. They are grieving that they cant relieve it again and reenacting it the best way they can
Asians arent people, they thrive the suffering of others. Remember that VA that got publicly humiliated? Or people getting worked to death?
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>>160303952
Neocons are in control of policy and have been for a long time.

Putin had a clever quip about this - he said something like (paraphrased)

"we'd have nothing to gain by supporting a US candidate over another. Presidents come and go in the US, but curiously the policy stays the same. Maybe the President isn't all that important?"

The travel ban was Obama admin's creation, by the way.
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>>160304205
You're really gonna pass one of trumps campaign promises onto Obama? Come on man I just went over having no illusions over who really runs the government, it's why it would be nice to have one of two things out of our president

1 a person who understands how the government works so they can properlly steer the treads of the government beast to do the least amount of damage possible
Or 2 a person who got into government for the actual purpose of helping change the corruption and challenge the outside interests groups plaguing our (and the worlds) governmental bodies

What we have is a man whose never thought about anyone other than himself his entire life not realizing that you actually have to bring ideas to the table to be discussed and compromising isn't a sign of weakness, its a baisic skill most adults who've lived in the real world have to have
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>>160304408
Nigga how you gonna say you realize the president doesn't matter then go on to detail what kind of president you think we need

You have to realize the Cold War isn't over because we won't let it, and the childish interests of yourself aren't necessarily in the interest of continued global stability.
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>>160288719
>should be discouraged
What a fucking faggot. Nobody deserves to be discouraged, even newfags.
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>>160298873
> american Sub and Dub crews twist so they will fit into an american viewership's expectation.
Examples? Sounds like japanophobic shit my black man.
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>>160288569
fpbp
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>>160304482
How's trump promoting global stability? And are you really saying Vladimir Putin"my political opponents in the grave" is really the person we need to steer the ship globally? Because I haven't said shit about Russia at all but you keep pivoting the conversation as if I believed something you want to refute and denounce my discomfort with my president as party division rather than just me not liking him as a person or as an American.

There's a corruption in our country on a governmental level down to the town and on a cultural level across each subsection. Yes we need to sort out ourselves before we can sort out the global issues but electing a man who exploited a weakness in our unity through fear momgering and race baiting is more harmful than you want to admit it seems. It doesn't matter how much power he actually has because I guarantee you it's still to much.
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>>160304688
>fear momgering

I want that to be the name for an all female punk band
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>>160304688

I didn't say he was. He doesn't matter.

I'm saying maybe there are issues more important than you realize. Like the Peak Oil problem and oil pipelines.

Ask yourself why the US helped create AQ and why we are buddies with Saudi Arabia. Why are we trying to topple Assad? Why did we instigate a (failed) coup in Turkey?
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Why is this /int/+/pol/ cancer thread still here
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>>160304942
What's the issue I'm not seeing? Cause I'm also against the pipelines and am surprisingly still shocked how we carried out a war party against some natives this year. Or do you just mean that we need to raise the prices again rather than just letting scientific advancement replace it with something less toxic?

I get that we need to pivot our thinking towards Russia as rivals rather than enemies but acknowledging our issues doesn't exactly equate to obsolving their issues. Should we take this to pol or am I gonna be dogpiled there?
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>>160304975
Fuck oft f/a/ggot.
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>>160305105
You first /pol/cancer
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>>160305140
Nah, make me.
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>>160304975
When you find yourself going through hell, keep going
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>>160288543
The Japanese are not destroying themselves with superficial guilt like the Germans are.
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>>160305076
You're "against the pipelines"? The things that carry the lifeblood of modern civilization? You keep trying to simplyfy these issues into a childlike demeanour.

"Well lets just stop using oil! Then we won't have to fight over shipping routes and pipelines! ANd lets just merge all governments into one Global empire so we won't fight over geopolitical points and regional influence!"

Yeah, have fun in fairy tale land.
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>>160305153
Don't you have interracial cuckold porn threads to be making?
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Meanwhile in China
>Yin Ziqi had besieged the city for a long time. The food in the city had run out. The dwellers traded their children to eat and cooked bodies of the dead. Fears were spread and worse situations were expected. At this time, Zhang Xun took his concubine out and killed her in front of his soldiers in order to feed them. He said, "You have been working hard at protecting this city for the country wholeheartedly. Your loyalty is uncompromised despite the long-lasting hunger. Since I can't cut out my own flesh to feed you, how can I keep this woman and just ignore the dangerous situation?" All the soldiers cried, and they did not want to eat. Zhang Xun ordered them to eat the flesh. Afterwards, they caught the women in the city. After the women were run out, they turned to old and young males. 20,000 to 30,000 people were eaten. People always remained loyal.
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>>160292208
What do you expect from a board titled /a/- Anime and Manga? You might as well shit up /ck/ with "What food do you think Hitler liked?" threads and asking people to redpill you on mayonnaise.
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>>160305336
Redpill me on mayo.
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>>160305280
It must've hard to stop using asbestos and hard to stop using lead pipes and the horse and buggy. Progress isn't about what's easy it's about what's next and what's right. Oil is still a major part of our global infrastructure so you're right we need to still pump it up, but don't think for a second that we shouldn't start investing everything we have into renewable energy. If a forest fire is needed to clear out old growth and make way for new growth. Than it's completely natural to let a few industries die to make way for the next generation
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>>160305360
Literally liquid cancer. Use vine vinegar and olive oil instead.
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>>160305416
I'll humor your fantasy

And how do we make sure Russia does the same and doesn't sweep in after we leave? What about after we switch to complete renewable energy? That won't solve the global power structure.

It'd be nice if global superpowers could all get along, and every kid in the world could be fed and get a teddybear and nobody died and my air conditioner would stop leaking.

But in the real world, decisions have to be made like whether to support a Sunni uprising against a Shia controlled government that many thousands of people will die in, so that the region stays stable and the global economy doesn't collapse
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>>160298563
False ones perpetuated by the CIA (and false "facts" continued to be spread even after the CIA and the US Government acknowledge it was something they made up)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_Tibetan_program
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>>160305416
Why are you so scared to say you want "green energy"? Is it because if you admit it people will point how inefficient it is right now when compared to other sources of energy. But you do also have the "right thing" aka "right side of history" argument in your comments, so you don't care. Or at least you think you don't care until your modern lifestyle doesn't get fucked by the lack of the needed energy to sustain it.
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>>160303520
This post looks like a parody designed to point out how leftists are typically the pot calling the kettle black. The run up to the election was full of non-stop race baiting, race riots, and racial divide and conquer tactics from the left. I heard all kinds of fearmongering and paranoia from them leading up to the election.

It doesn't matter if Trump acts like he has been. The Democrat leadership is proudly trying to start race wars and attack the first and second amendments, and the old Republican leadership was openly endorsing them. Trump is a tool for bringing about some turnover. Meanwhile, the EU's leadership is trying to turn it into an empire, and clear violations of the first and second amendments are official policy in progressive Europe. It's the height of arrogance to believe a political establishment can't threaten democracy when the rest of the world and all of history say otherwise. Call that fearmongering if you want; most of the world just calls it reality.

>>160304975
I should've reported the thread hours ago. I thought it would be gone by now.
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>>160305597
These are steps that are hard to take and maybe discussing this on a mongolian threat singing forum isn't the most hopeful place for this little tet a tet.

You can't guarantee anything in the world just like you can't guarantee anything in life. The world has been alright at falling in line with the scientific advancements of the United States so if we, the largest consumer of the worlds resouces and largest producer of green house gases, finally revitalize our infrastructure to include renewables I'd like to think the rest of the world world would follow suit.

As to everything else you said you reminded me of another thing I genuinely hate about our mutual commander and chief, fucker dropped the commander side of it the moment he realized he's actually responsible for people saying lives. Remember how he passed the blame onto his generals when a military attack resulted in the death of some soldiers? Was that taking responsibility? And before you start spouting off about "it was obamas plan blah blah blah" this issue is more contextual than just him signing off on missions planned ahead of time. This shows he really dosen't care about any of the things you issues you just listed. He's just there for the accolades and the networking. We do need an adult to make these decisions and at least have someone not directly profiting on war to sign off on us waging it and President Trump has already passed the buck on that completely. perfection is a lie propagated by the proletariat, if we let ourselves think there's always something better than we can never acknowledge the good we have. But don't delude yourself into thinking we're going to get the next best thing on the path we currently walk
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>>160305865
>anime faggots have to report a thread if it ever so slightly upsets them
Fucking degenerates.
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>>160305988
Year right, China and India and the rest of Asia are just going to starve themselves to death and follow your purple dreams. But you are right, though, they would follow a scientific advancement, but only if makes green energy more efficient. But we don't have it. So no one will follow it. And you most definitely can't just throw away everything and start pursuing that efficiency. By the time you achieve it, you will lose the hegemony of the world. Even worse, because you are want to throw the tax payer money in what you perceived to be the future you will kill of any competition that could have done something way better.
Let me tell you one secret, the USA produces like 20% of the total world production, but consumers like 40% of the total world production. Make yourself as green as you want the only thing you will achieve right now is you are going to lose your iphone lifestyle, while the rest of the world keeps on going.
You probably also hold the wrong idea that oil extraction has not become more efficient and cleaner with the time. The USA already has implemented many such methods. But funny enough the rest of the world doesn't follow that easily.
You are too idealistic. You want to leave in your idealistic world. But that world is not the reality we live in.
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>>160305764
I want green energy, if we had let the industry grow naturally than we wouldn't have some of the problems we face but every patent and every person involved in trying to make these thing happened have either been bought off or suppressed by "our only choices for powering the whole country"
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>>160305988
So "just take the plunge and hope for the best" with billions of people's lives on the line. Seems like a fair assessment to me.

As you know, the science isn't there yet, not even close. So we're stuck with oil for now. We have to make sure we have enough, right?

What makes you think you know what's best for tomorrow? You can keep preaching about rainbows and candy until the DOW nosedives, your phone stops working and your power goes out.
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>>160290279
>>160290455
humans are bastards, more news at eleven
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>>160288543
I think you're attributing the wrong thing for those "parallels".
Japs and some asians in general are very susceptible to the idea of the greater good. Utilitarianism is the greatest tool of dehumanization, it comes off in their works a lot because of their mindset.

It can't be helped.
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>>160306147
You are memeing yourself to death. You realize those evil capitalists even if they are don't give a shit about humanity they are not stupid? They realize they can't hold the hegemony of the energy business forever without constant advancement. Green energy is just not there. When it goes there they will be among the first to use it monopolize it as much as they can so they can retrain their status as a giant.
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The concentration of autism here is ridiculously high. All of you. The people debating fucking politics in here and the people just screeching that they don't like this thread. Report, hide and move on, Jesus Christ.
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>>160306261
>people just screeching that they don't like this thread

Like you? Announcing a report is against the rules, by the way.
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>>160306307
He is not announcing a report, he is telling people to report, you dumb newfag. To begin with people like you that take the rules too seriously are a big reason for the downfall of the site and this board.
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>>160306133
Indias about to run out of water, Russia's ground is going to collapse out from under them and China's already taking the baisic steps I've been talking about towards green energy. We're being left behind and supposedly in about 25 years we're going to hit the cap on what we can sustain as a global population. It's scary to think what this world is going to look like in 40 years I know, and yes it's impractical of me to think that we'll get over ourselves globally to achieve any kind of a peace. But maybe, and this is the big maybe, if we try to start working together rather than rooting ourselves in our own beliefs maybe more than a few of us can make it
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>>160303699
>letting "stupid" people implement policy.
I don't "let" anyone do anything, I don't control the world, but yeah I'm sure whining about things you believe on the internet about politics is real productive
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>>160306373
And then after we make global peace we can make anime real!
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>>160306485
anime is more real than the shit this guy is spewing
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>>160306485
Jesus Christ I get it's a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong shot but maybe if we can't find peace under our current system maybe we need to find a new system

>inb4 no communism probably won't work

But just because that may not work doesn't mean capitalism is sustainable still.
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>>160306373
Did you just jizz all over yourself?
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How the hell is this thread still here? Is there seriously nobody here to delete it, even with the (presumed) infinite reports it's taken?
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>>160306611
No that was a few hours ago, so now we're just going to start insulting each other?
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>>160306593
Oh you're a commie... I get it, makes sense now. Why is it that communists aren't met with the same disgust and repulsion that self-proclaimed "National Socialists" do?

Hey, instead of trying to make a perfect utopia why don't we just try to do the best we can with what we have, and take practice steps that lead to the best projected outcome?

Nah, let's just become the United Socialist States of America.
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>>160306701
>practice

practical*
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>>160306621
It doesn't violate any rules m8.
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>>160306701
>Why is it that communists aren't met with the same disgust and repulsion that self-proclaimed "National Socialists" do?
they are
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>>160306701
It is because they won WW2. And after that the USSR had plenty of time to send propaganda through universities and media.
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>>160306701
Read this
>>160305988

I don't think communism can work but that dosen't mean that capitalism is the only way the world can work
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>>160306770


Try getting some friends together and go marching around Uni with Nazi flags. It won't last long. Yet you see people marching with commie flags and not much of any reaction, when you'd think it'd be just as offensive.
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>>160306770
No, they're not. How many Nazis flying the swastika flag do you see on university campuses? How many professors openly state that they are national socialists?
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>>160306873
>>160306879
I'm glad I don't live in America
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Let's face it; you give a free pass to Japanese war crimes just because they make sexy cartoons.
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wie hart kann 1 user auf deutsch reingrinden?
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>>160306701
>Oh you're a commie... I get it, makes sense now. Why is it that communists aren't met with the same disgust and repulsion that self-proclaimed "National Socialists" do?
Because Hitler is more famous and iconic than Stalin.
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>>160306947
The idea of "War crimes" is one of the most inane redundant concepts. As if war by itself isn't a "crime" (when a crime is obviously rooted in a law, not morality)

It's just victors justice.
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yeah yeah, white is right. Fuckin japs are daemons.
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>>160306977
Hoit die pappn.
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>>160288543
What the fuck is the point of this thread? Are you saying that Japan is unique in the fact that it has dystopian societies in creative writing? Have you never picked up a book? Jesus this shit flared up my autism.
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>>160307124
Nice strawman. No I didn't say that.
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>>160288543
Its a common trope, you dork.
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>>160306733
It violates almost every fucking rule of this website. All that's left undone is illegal pornography and gore.
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>>160307209
Name me the specific rules it violates. It doesn't violate any of them.
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>>160307181
Please explain how dystopian societies in writing are related to war crimes. You're clearly implying there's a correlation.
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>>160288543
Who cares? Human expirimentation, bio/chem weapon testing and all the other unethical stuff was widley practiced by countries at large. And to some extent it is still prevalent in the modern world, we just dont hear about it much, as 99% of these tests are now conducted on animals, or human cells intead of living beings.

Just because my country caused a local genocide some 200 years ago, or captured some lands, doesnt automatically mean i have to repent my whole life for it.
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>>160307274
>dystopian societies aren't a strong theme post WW2
>the atrocities of the late 19th and early 20th century didn't impact artists and media
>local events couldn't have possibly shaped local media and artists
ARE YUO SRSLY IMPLYING THAT?????
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>>160307312
And, hell, it benefited us greatly in medical advances, horrible as it was.

>>160307209
Just for you. Close enough, right?
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>>160288543
>some kind of society or system that treats people like nothing but materials or objects to further some larger goal. Complete dehumanisation of people.

This theme has basically been a staple of fiction of all kinds since the modern era. Most branches of social science and philosophy dedicated years of writing to addressing the strange relationship between the individual and society. Those shows are basically touching on the same ideas, though in a more superficial manner. It's nothing unique to Japan, though considering the life of the average salaryman and the high incidence of suicide in Japan, the alienation of modern living seems to have psychologically hit the average Japanese harder than in the West.


>So is it just me or does this kinda seem like it's the japanese dealing with the horrors that were commited at that time?

You see this more often in films and novels. In terms of their psychological relationship with the war, Japan is more like Italy than Germany. Generally anime likes to avoid touching on politics at all, even more so today since many otaku are sympathetic to hard Japanese nationalism. Still, it comes up occasionally: Zeon in Gundam is a pretty clear take on Imperial Japan, even down to the "We're here to liberate our oppressed colonial brethren" ideology that turns out to be completely hollow. By contrast, the more recent Gundam SEED's Orb Union was apparently intended by the director as a depiction of an ideal modern Japan.
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>>160307242
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies ..

The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

All images and resulting discussion should pertain to anime or manga.
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>>160307312
Basic reading comprehension is apparently too much to ask of /a/. None of this here states that "Japan needs to repent, reparations!" or whatever bullshit you're dreaming up. Jesus Christ.
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>>160307345
>dystopian societies aren't a strong theme post WW2
Stopped reading right there. You're a fucking idiot.
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>>160307367
Activate Raid S2 was probably the most political anime lately. They had a guy that wanted to make city-states a world-wide thing by starting with Tokyo.
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>>160289777
holy shit it's worse than I've imagined
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>>160307435
Also there was this. Plus in the same anime some propaganda about working women, but in Japan they put it as an argument that they lack workers, not some liberation bullshit.
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>>160307507
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>>160289777
> If you somehow manage to separate from that company, you are damaged goods. You will, in all probability, never be offered a salaryman position again.
>you are damaged goods
At least I finally see
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>>160293356
>all these replies
Do /pol/posters really lack this much self awareness?
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>>160307819
They're more self-aware than the anon complaining about a decade old cartoon frog meme on 4chan. Or the woman who complained about it on national television.
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え…なんでこのスレこんなに伸びているんだ?
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>>160299538
>When Japs first encountered black people they had to be told by the Americans of all people that they were actually people and not some summoned demon things
I dont care if this bullshit it still made me laugh
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>>160308814
To be fair, the Japs also thought that bears were mountain gods.
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>>160308744
4chan dakara
Shitpost to Bait no tengoku nanda
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>>160299538
>When Japs first encountered black people they had to be told by the Americans of all people that they were actually people and not some summoned demon things

>they were actually people
>not demons

Yet another blatant American lies
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>>160288543
Fuck off kike
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>>160292244
These epic military anime girl drawings are the worst. Especially when you've seen people die around you. People you love. War is not a good thing.
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>>160309314
Cry me a fucking river.
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>>160309360
t. Pasty faggot posting from his mom's basement
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>>160309314
Well, you wouldn't be shitposting on 4chan without it, so whatever you know. Medicine and computers and shit are pretty tight, yo.
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>>160288569
kek
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Jap is best chink and gook killer.
I like them.
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>>160290261
They're both shit for censoring history.
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>>160309314
t. Was never in a war
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>reading testimony about jap secret units
>(((evidence)))
Fun fact. The Nuremberg trials were not about evidence and no facts had to be proven for war crimes only a probability it happened.
Welcome to post ww2 trials.
Protip the japs didn't do fucking anything.
Its all just kike propaganda to put down the west.
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>>160288543
that's just asia in general dude. different kind of place than europe, africa, or the americas. they are the hive.
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>>160307038
Pretty sure using civilians to conduct biological experiments constitutes as a crime in any situation. It's straight up evil.
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>>160307427
this^

I love the metro series dood
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>>160310199
>censoring history

That about rules out every country ever.

>>160310288

Sure it's "evil". ...but....how much medical knowledge did we gain that will continue to save lives? If you could go back and stop the experimentation from happening, would you, knowing how much value the results have?

It can't be a crime if there's no law against it. My point was it's no more horrifying than war itself, and for that point, all powers were neck deep in human experimentation.
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>>160310248
You forgot to mention the "laws" they used to charge people with at Nuremberg weren't even written until after the war ended. They basically made up laws on the spot.
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>>160290169
Oh shit America did bad things, better ignore Japan's crimes then.
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>>160310248
>and no facts had to be proven for war crimes only a probability it happened.
Like in literally the whole totality of the empirical sciences and criminal law.

WHOOPDIEDOO, stormretard.
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>>160310288
So is this not straight up evil? >>160289910


How about this? >>160307358
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>>160310558
What? Can you rephrase that? It's not his opinion, that's actually what was said at Nuremberg.

I mean you can just google it man.
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This is a thread that does not belong to /a/, because it fits better to /jp/ in the first place and, on top of it, got overrun by /pol/ and /leftypol/ autists throwing shit at each other as they always do whenever they got the opportunity, being the massive fags they are. Sage, report and abandon this sad piece of a shit thread.
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>>160308396
I'm not offended by pepe the frog, I was just saying that it has nothing to do with the alt-right is wrong
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>>160288543
No, Japanese are just soulless creatures that are unable to experience the slightless sense of remorse over any wrongdoing by their part, and like treating everyone else like shit.

Regarding the acts carried out by Japan during the WWII, the official stance of the Japanese government is that "we dindu nuffin, we beez gudbois, we beez turnin our lives around". They officially don't give a shit and the only apologies isued seem to be nothing but lip service.
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>>160306701
>Why is it that communists aren't met with the same disgust and repulsion that self-proclaimed "National Socialists" do?
Is amerilard education system so bad that you don't even know about your own history?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare
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>>160310558
>facts don't have to be proven in a court of law now!!!
Hahaha! Are you fucking serious?
>stormretard!
Ah old haasbara IDF at your old tricks again ey schlomo?

Here let me educate you child.

You generally need to prove facts for a murder to have someone convicted of murder. You cannot convict someone of murder on witness testimony alone.

The Nuremberg trials had men convicted of war crimes and mass murder on what was essentially witness testimony alone. No bodies. No evidence nothing. These testimonies included stating that young Jewish boys were masturbated to death on masturbation devices. Or a great train system that carried Jews in mine crates aka donkey kong on a track before dumping them into fire pits. Oh and the massive electric chair which could kill 2000 Jews at a time.

People hung on those testimonies.
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>>160310558
>Like in literally the whole totality of the empirical sciences and criminal law.


Yeah, 2+2 is "probably" 4, and at murder trials people have to be proven "probably" guilty.

>>160310735
Notice I used present-tense, friend. The red scare is over incase you didn't notice. And even then, people were openly communist during that time, and there was even an official communist party.
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>>160310641
>>160310773
There is no qualitative difference inherent in the Nuremberg Trials because the proof standard in literally all non-deductive matters of life, which pertains almost all matters of life, including natural sciences and criminal law all over the world, pertains only the proof of probabilities.

There is not a single court case in the history of mankind where absolute proof was required.

As for the latter anon's massive lack of factual education about the Holocaust, I don't give enough of a fuck about you, but I recommend lurking /his/ to see other stormweenies like you get blown the fuck out, since we, sadly, have daily Holocaust threads where your kind gets BTFO.
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>>160310683
I got it.
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>>160310683
Forgot to add, "we beez fightin da muhfugging yt opreshun and save Asia from da yt debil"
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>>160310872
>here is not a single court case in the history of mankind where absolute proof was required.

OJ Simpson. What do I win?
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>>160310872
>make factual case based on history
>reply with nonsensical statement and claim /his/ bans the fuck out of holocaust threads before ending your sentence with "stormweenie"
Oh Chaim. I love it when you don't address the argument at all and then go on to believe you've won it. Truly a Jew at heart.
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>>160310872
>There is not a single court case in the history of mankind where absolute proof was required.
(None where a factual matter was the focus of contention, that is.)
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>>160310874
This could not be more spot on.
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>>160310964
how many times do you have to debunk a holocaust denier before they stop denying it? Six million? it's not worth the words, or shitting up this thread more than it already is
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>>160310872
>There is not a single court case in the history of mankind where absolute proof was required.
Ahahahaha!
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>>160311006
Oh, JIDF (Japanese Internet Defense Force) finally going at it at its fullest.

How many Yen do you make per post?
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>>160310975
>factual matter

By assuming the event happened and was perpetrated by the individuals from the outset before you even start the damn trial, you're putting the cart before the horse.

"California did this horrible thing. Lets go arrest and charge the people in charge and have a trial. When we ask ourselves for evidence of guilt, we will point to the thing that we already agreed happened and was perpetrated by California."
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Don't believe the people who say that Japan censors everything about their war crimes, there are regularly books about them in every combini. This one at the top left has many pages with photographs about Unit 731, like about Mengele and a lot of other mad scientists fund by diverse governments. The Japanese know, but they refuse to live with the shame of deeds others did 70 years ago. They have paid and apologized many times, all they ever got is anti-japanese education in whole Asia except Vietnam and Phillipines that weren't touched by communist propaganda. They decided to move on and they have the right to.

Now it's time for China and Korea to recognize their own war crimes, apologize at least one time and pay reparations too.
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>>160311036
>magdanek not even a death camp anymore after historians found out it never had gas chambers.
>Auschwitz death tolls revised yearly lower and lower
>literally not possible to burn 6 million Jews in 3 years in coke fuelled ovens
>claimed at Nuremberg that it took 15 minutes to burn 8 bodies in a single oven meant for one person
>takes modern hyper accelerant propane ovens several hours to do the same with one body
>no mass graves or ashes ever found
>Chaim: ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE DONT QUESTION IT!
Beautiful.
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>>160311157
Forgot the pic.
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>>160311187
another book that included a long article and photos about Unit 731, also sold in any convenience store.
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>>160311128
Do you know what a Wumao is?
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>>160311268
>in Mary Land

oh for fucks sake that got me
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>>160311194
And?...what's that supossed to prove, besides you being a shill (who probably does it for free)? Is it that Asians are rabid and hateful?
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>>160311299
>Mary

I didn't even read it correctly it's Merry

Japs come the fuck on

>Maryland - Merry Land
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>>160311262
Your work's name un ching chong or something?
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No, it would store jaws if they did.
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Why are people so against chemical and biological warfare? They are both great and cheap weapon solutions for smaller nation/groups of people and evens out the playingfield. Oh wait it's because all the bigger nations (read: joos) want to stay on the top.
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Come to think of that, Onii-sama is one of the victim for an experiment right?
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>>160311528
>They are both great and cheap weapon solutions for smaller nation
they aren't, they're only useful for terrorism and inflicting unneccessary cruelty on the enemy really
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>>160311524
Never4get!
Jap monkey must die.
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>>160311528
They aren't quite destructive enough to work as deterrents, and they only work in densely populated areas. Quite ineffective in most situations compared to conventional munitions.

Hey, they work great for false-flag operations though.
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>>160310296
you're posting this ironically right
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>>160311157
This scenario is too ideal, I don't believe you.
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>>160311237
And articles in newspapers too. The Japanese have never denied nor tried to hide the truth.

About Nanking, well, on the day when the Japanese troops entered Nanking, more than 100 press reporters and photographers entered together with them. The press corps were not only from Japan, but also from European and American press organizations, including Reuters and AP. However, none of the press corps reported the occurrence of a massacre of 300,000 people. Paramount News (American newsreels) made films reporting the Japanese occupation in Nanking, but did not report the occurrence of a massacre.

The British newspaper North China Daily News, which was published in China in English on December 24, 1937, eleven days after the Japanese occupation of Nanking, carried a photo taken in Nanking by their photographer. The photo was entitled "Japanese distribute gifts in Nanking." In the photo are Japanese soldiers distributing gifts, and Chinese adults and children receiving the gifts and rejoicing. Is this the scene of a massacre?

http://www2.biglobe.ne.jp/remnant/nankingm.htm

http://tamezou.tripod.com/nanking/alleged/index.html
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>>160311597
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>>160311432
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www7.plala.or.jp/juraian/jkcttextbooks/jkcttextbooks.htm
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>>160311577
Yeah, like the a-bomb didn't solve anything right? Same shit, anthraxbomb the fuck out of main industrial cities and watch them flip their shit. That's more effective than shooting bullets and throwing granades at the front lines.
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>>160309314
>t. too much of a pussy to actually enlist but one of his dead acquaintances did and it's totally the fault of mild propaganda
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>>160311755
Nah, it's more useful for covert operations.

Like the Anthrax Attacks around 9/11 that ended up being made from a US bio weapons facility. Yeah, we kind of don't talk about that anymore.
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I'm surprised the mods had the decency to leave this thread up for so long.

Japan and Germany were the good guys (I guess Italy too, and a few others) in WWII. All reports of genocide committed by them are immensely overblown, to the point that the holohoax is actually just the result of starvation and disease in PoW camps caused by Allied bombing of supply lines and civilian targets that crippled the Germans' ability to operate the camps. Jews were targeted, but for expulsion rather than extermination. Beyond that, the high number of kikes found in the camps was due to their propensity to act as Marxist partisans, the absolute scum of the era responsible for destabilizing many nations. Even still, with every reason to purge Semites from this world, the peace-loving National Socialists did not enact any sort of genocidal plan. In return, the kikes repaid this mercy by having their American dogs raze continental Europe, seize control of Germany and hand it over to kikes (General Patton was removed from his post overseeing the occupation of Germany because he didn't think the remaining Germans should be kicked out of their homes so that kikes could plunder them), station niggers as part of the occupying force because of their well known inability to refrain from rape, and construct a demonizing narrative to ensure that the noble ideas of National Socialism would not rise again to challenge the Semitic hegemony. Fortunately, the advent of an era in which information cannot be so easily suppressed has allowed the truth to emerge.
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>>160288543
This guy looks like Marikiplier.
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>>160311755
terrible comparsion really
chemical and biological weapons, especially the ones small countries can manufacture, aren't that reliable or effective, they mostly just cause suffering and demoralize the enemy
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>>160311597
Professor Who Wrote of Korean ‘Comfort Women’ Wins Defamation Case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/world/asia/korean-comfort-women-park-yu-ha-japan.html?_r=0

"I first confronted the comfort women issue in 1991. It was near the end of my study in Japan. As a volunteer I was translating former Korean comfort women's testimonies for NHK. When I returned to South Korea, the nationalism was out of control. The anti-Japanese activist group "Korean Council for the Women Drafted for Military Sexual Slavery" (also known as Chong Dae Hyup 정대협 挺対協) was formed by the South Korean communists. Its leader said publicly it was determined to defame Japan for the next 200 years. Its propaganda turned me off, so I stayed away from this issue for years. I regained my interest in this issue in the early 2000s when I heard that Chong Dae Hyup was confining surviving women in a nursing home called House of Nanumu. The only time these women were allowed to talk to outsiders was when Chong Dae Hyup needed them to testify for the UN Special Rapporteur or the U.S. politicians.
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>>160311878
>when the holocaust didn't happen but we still need another one
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>>160293251
MKULTRA bit the US government in the ass in the end though.

All the LSD that was used by the CIA in MKULTRA was sold somewhere in the late '50s or early '60s when the CIA found out that LSD makes people trip balls and have a fun/bad time... maybe, it doesn't allow you to mindcontrol them and you can't use it as a chemical weapon. That's around the same time the USA got flooded with street LSD and the hippy movement began.
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>>160311878
Japan at the time officially refused to persecute the Jews and they were the ONLY ones. All the other countries sold their Jews to Germany, helping them to put them into trains to Death.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/japan-and-the-jews-during-the-holocaust

"After the start of the war in the Pacific and with the resulting closer workings with the other Axis powers, the Japanese were pressured by the Germans to do something about the Jewish communities under their control - principally Shanghai. The Japanese were aware that Berlin's cancellation of German citizenship of all Jews who had left Germany that affected several thousand Jews in Shanghai. And in May 1942, an intercept of a message from the Japanese embassy in Berlin revealed that Alfred Rosenberg, Nazism's "philosopher " and Minister to the Occupied Eastern Territories, had urged the Japanese to do some thing about the Jews living in their territories before they became a "problem." He was particularly anxious to limit their free travel through the rest of southern Asia.

Yet, the Japanese refused to go along with the German demands. In late January 1942, even as the German authorities met at Wannsee to finalize the mechanisms for the Holocaust, Tokyo's policy was, as some of their diplomats said, "to go easy in our policy towards the Jews." In mid-March 1942, the Japanese policy towards the Jews was set out in a message broadcast from Tokyo to all diplomatic stations in the Far East. The message declared that the fundamental policy towards Jews, as set out in a Japanese Diet declaration in 1938, would be only partly modified to account for the Axis alliance. Jews would still be considered as any other group of foreigners, although the distinction of "Jewishness" would be based on race and culture."
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>>160311878
>I'm surprised the mods had the decency to leave this thread up for so long.
I guess his mother is Chinese or Korean.
And chink and gook pls provide us full of doujin and scanlations from nips.
They are welcomed.
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>>160311194
they really dont like each other
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>>160311902
The link to her books detail is flagged as spam here. Like other links China has managed to block even here. To reach the site, google the text. Thanks.
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>>160311902
But on Wednesday, Ms. Park won the criminal case. In a case closely followed by the South Korean news media, a judge in the Eastern District Court in Seoul ruled that her academic freedom must be protected.

“But academic expressions must be protected not only when they are right but also when they are wrong.”
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>>160312083
It is butthurt.
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Why is this thread still here?
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>>160312039
>government works on a mind control drug
>drug finds its way into the public
really makes me think
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Our mods are really worthly pls.
Kek.
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>>160312078
see
>>160312111
Nobody can type the address normally here.
Just try after you found the site?
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>>160312160
If she had been wrong, they would have been able to prove it, by any way possible. Their problem is that she had the first testimonies of these women ON TAPE (they tried to prevent her from presenting the tapes though).
So this is bullshit.
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>>160312039
LSD is some dank shit though.
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>>160311953
Wew
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>>160312250
You do realise that the hippy movement fucked up the government something fierce?

The US government has one of the highest punishments on possession of LSD. In the whole western world it's just a psychedelic drug. A small-time drugs offense.

In the USA you're treated as if you're dealing heroin or coke.
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>>160312039
I can't really see how it bit them in the ass. Much of the modern system of control was developed in conjunction with their experiments with trauma conditioning and the more outlandish drug-related mind control programs have seen use in manufacturing fake whistleblowers of extraterrestrial aligned programs (people who get shown elaborate stagecraft so that they run to tell others how ETs are real and other such things, all of it is meant to distract from the real study of UFOs and their connection to ancient spiritual traditions as well as human consciousness). Sure, we know a little bit about what was done, but most of the records were destroyed and the successor programs are still in operation. By all reason, even what little we do know of MKULTRA, Monarch, etc. should be more than enough to roll out the guillotine, but not only is the same government still in power, none of the directly responsible parties have been held to account. Although, I'm sure many of the ones whose involvement we'll never know about ended up being eliminated as loose ends. That's hardly justice though. Even the hippie movement itself was quickly infiltrated and subverted, turned into nothing more than a testbed for those same sorts of experiments in controlling people.

Too few people even care for it to have bitten them in the ass at this point. This very point alone should indicate how successful the program was.

>>160312067
>http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org
kaka
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>>160312160
My sides. How hypocrite they are, they said they wanted to protect academic expressions but tried to force her to ERASE 34 sections of her book?!

"In a provisional injunction, the publication of her book was suspended. She was forced to delete 34 sections in the Korean version of the book before republishing it. At the same time, she evaded being forced to delete any phrase in its Japanese edition published by Asahi Shimbun Publications Inc."

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20170206/p2a/00m/0na/022000c
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>>160311878
>X were the good guys in war
Stopped reading there.
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>>160311715
The JDF has never killed anyone, nor even battle anywhere, they are a relief force that is called to help people after tsunamis etc. Don't think you can ever slander them, especially not because of a work of fiction.
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>>160312473
>stopped reading after the most important point
Cool, thanks for reading
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>>160312383
>You do realise that the hippy movement fucked up the government something fierce?
Yes, that's why you had posts like the one he was answering to with sentences like:
>MKULTRA bit the US government in the ass in the end though.
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>>160312416
You do realise that almost all the CIA studies into ESP, UFO's and other tinfoil bullshit were specifically instigated by KGB double agents to make the CIA burn money on useless projects? The CIA had so much money, that the KGB had no other option than to use the CIA's resources and vast spy network against them.
KGB double-agents would report that the KGB was somewhat successful in creating telepathic, pyrokinetic or psychic agents, and then the CIA would shit themselves and hire thousands of snake oil salesmen, charlatans and just schizophrenics to help them create ESP agents.
Same goes for all their investigations into UFO's etc.

Just so you understand how much money the CIA could swing around, they spend billions pulling a sunk Russian sub off the sea floor miles deep just to get a hand on classified Soviet Navy papers. They didn't even know what was in those papers, but they just went ahead anyway.
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>>160311878
>the peace-loving National Socialists
I chuckled.
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>>160312501
It's because that author spouts the same memes as that guy the image points to.
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>>160312039
>MKULTRA bit the US government in the ass in the end though.

MKULTRA was never about the drugs themselves, it was about interrogation methods of which the drug experiments were a part of. Most of the enhanced interrogation torture methods that the CIA uses to this day in Guantanamo and the like were developed under the program, especially the behavior modification type experiments. These techniques were also taught to agents working for US supported regimes in South America and the Middle East as well.

Don't get distracted by the LSD and Manchurian candidate bullshit. If anything the CIA is getting plenty of use from what they learned in MKULTRA.
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>>160288569
nippon is a gud boy, he dindu nuthin
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>>160311902
Another book from another KOREAN professor Chunghee Sarah Soh. They are many trying to fight South Korea's lies.
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On topic, Gyo is pretty much about the horrors of WWII coming back to bite Japan in the ass.
And as for a non-manga/anime example...

GODDAMN GODZILLA. Godzilla represents the horrors caused by America, but Serizawa represents Japan's own fuckery.

Curious. The only Japanese media referencing the dark history of Japan in WWII all are horror stories.
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>>160288569
This, but unironically.
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>>160310963
Nothing. You don't seem to understand the definition of and difference between absolute and probable support.

>>160310795
>Yeah, 2+2 is "probably" 4,
See: >>160310975
>and at murder trials people have to be proven "probably" guilty
Correct. The absolute certainty demanded in the word of law is epistemically just a "probably".

>>160310456
>You forgot to mention the "laws" they used to charge people with at Nuremberg weren't even written until after the war ended. They basically made up laws on the spot.
Wrong.

Germany signed the Briand-Kellogg-Pact and the Hague Conventions, both of which allow punishment of people breaking them, although there is no degree of punishment set in the both - which, however, implies the opposite of what you may think: although there is no punishment set, because of the latter norm it had long before become practice (i.e., international customary law) that people breaking them were actually punished.
Under normal circumstances, all of them would've hung instead. Or rather their subjects. That's the actual difference from previous judgements. Starting from then on, the norms were also applied to the rulers.

>>160312067
The Japanese didn't exactly have good intentions when they wanted to keep the Jews around. They thought: So there's this minority that is absolutely hated to the point of constant persecution but still manages to control worldwide finance, trade and the affairs of states? Let's get ourselves some Jews and use them!
They were benevolent. They just drank their own kool aid.
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>>160312683
I'm aware of that. It's just hilarious to me that the CIA "created" Woodstock.
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>>160312617
It went both ways, as they'd also start up such research just to force the Soviets to also spend resources investigating their own snakeoil salesmen. Then of course, there is the matter of remote viewing being proven effective as a tool of espionage. Although from the sounds of it, you seem to think all of those things are "tinfoil bullshit" rather than understanding the truth of the phenomena.
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>>160312793
>They were benevolent. They just drank their own kool aid.
They were NOT* benevolent.
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>japanese dealing with the horrors that were commited at that time

bro get real most of them don't know about that shit or care about it

do you lay awake at night thinking about all the people your country killed?
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>>160309314
As soneone who has been in that position, war is pretty fun. My buddy died right next to me and his last words were, "If my final wish was for you to suck my dick, would you do it?"
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>>160312837
>he believes in remote viewing

How about I view inside your fucking brain? Oh wait, you don't have any.
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>>160312872
well did you?
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>>160312769
The burd did nuffin wrong
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>>160313002
Of course. It was a dying man's last wish. Probably.
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>>160312942
>he doesn't believe in a phenomenon which has been proven empirically
Kinda ironic you'd accuse anyone else of not having a brain.

See, this is how effective the control systems established in conjunction with MKULTRA are. The government can release their own proofs for a phenomenon and people still refuse to accept the least bit of non-materialism.
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>>160312942
one day you'll see through the jewish lies, the CIA are watching you masturbate and they dont even need malware in your phone to do it
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>>160313039
>>>/x/
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>>160312814
>It's just hilarious to me that the CIA "created" Woodstock.
It didn't. LSD didn't create the hippie movement out of nowhere. Drugs were certainly an important aspect of the counterculture of the time, but they're not the only one.
That's assuming the CIA actually flooded the streets with LSD, that is.
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>>160288543
Watch even this,you retard.
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REPTILOIDS CONROLL
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>>160313039
you know there was a million dollar prize set up for decades for anyone who could prove supernatural phenomena, and nobody could claim it?
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>>160313149
The Illuminati are trying to keep this anon from posting the truth.
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>>160313107
The CIA didn't directly. They were ordered to get rid of their LSD, but they decided against destroying it, so they sold it to some ex-government worker who was in the music industry. Of course, he already anticipated that the psychedelic rock and hippy scene would blow up, so now he had shitloads of acid ready to be sold when the scene would inevitably blow up.
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>>160289777
>Your company officially allows you between 12 and 18 combined vacation/sick days a year

Jesus crist, we get 30 days where I live, and I always manage to work a deal with my boss, I do overtime for "free" for some days before vacation, get some late projects finished, and he gives me 45 days instead, and I still think its too little.

Salary man try to limit themselves to 5 days of vacation each year? Inhuman.
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>>160310996
>family values are so poor in amerifat country that one cartoon can "turn" their sons into this

Fucking KEK
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>>160301134
>>160304635

Not him, but pretty sure Angel Cop was one where the actual dialogue was something about jews and the sub team changed it.
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>>160313156
Who the fuck hasn't heard of that faggot Randi? What's your point? The empirical evidence exists, a conman's efforts at self-aggrandizement has no bearing on the facts.
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>>160313426
prove it then. regardless of what you think of him, he administered the test fairly and nobody fucking passed it, including remote viewers
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>>160313334>>160313315

This cringefest is a proof of that.
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>>160313426
not this shit again.

every single time you tell some esper charlatan to conjure flames out of his ass in a scientific controlled experiment, they can't do it. its not fucking real dude, deal with it.

>>160313604
and what the fuck are you suddenly talking about mpreg for?
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>>160313701
It was meant only for>>160313334
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>>160313712
male pregnancy is the logical conclusion of male chauvinism
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I think if we evolved women out we would just have gay sex and lay eggs. Human fetuses are too destructive on the carrier to stay that way desu
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>>160313426
What constitutes adequate empirical evidence?

>>160313156
>you know there was a million dollar prize set
It still is, but only for established "psychics", because Randy is retired.

>>160313564
>the stanford experiment is a great example of this
Scientifically, the Stanford Experiment is pretty much useless, because it's an n=1 that is also poorly controlled, contrary to the Milgram Experiments, which were conducted over a thousand times and highly controlled.

Similarly, the Unit 731 experiments, too, were conducted with abysmal scientific methodology, even if we totally disregard ethics.

>progress usually only comes with the degeneratiom of certain moral values
The vast majority of history of scientific progress, both revolutionary and incremental, has been conducted within the scientists' respective set of morals because breakthroughs tend to arise incidentally.
This claim is both factually wrong and just edgy.
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>>160313474
The CIA has generously declassified and released some of their investigations into such phenomena, largely because those investigations had already become known in the public sphere due to the involvement of civilian psychics. That's just the least of the places you begin studying the truth.
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>>160314050
Are you going to talk about how the V2 rocket program and operation paperclip had no impact on the space program and related tech like gps next?
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>>160311157
>>160311187
>>160311237
Let's remember how butthurt the Japanese get when they. are reminded of those acts.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/unbroken-angelina-jolie-war-film-accused-of-being-racist-and-anti-japanese-a6853941.html

dats rayciss!
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A rec thread mixed with politics doesn't get deleted huh.
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>>160314227
When's there going to be a movie about the American concentration camps for japs?
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>>160314175
What percentage of scientific breakthroughs in the history of mankind do those two cases represent?

0,00000000002%? (just to illustrate)

Is it worth giving up central moral values to speed up progress for the time saved by two more breakthroughs that can be gotten otherwise, but slower? If there is even time saved, due to unintended consequences of changing the scientific ethos?
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>>160310677
This.
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>>160314286

Well do you want me to list every fucking advancement ww2 brought? Everything from medical breakthroughs to radar to jet engines.
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>>160314390
Optimally, yes.

After all, you make a claim of probability ("usually"), so you should've quantified that somehow.

I'm ready to admit ignorance.
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>>160314478
Also, you also have to count the advancements from science being conducted under the "degeneration of certain moral values" against the totality of advancements in science.

If you make the claim that science "usually" progresses only under those conditions, you optimally need to have quantified both. Since you can't do that fully, you may operationalize it to a reasonable degree.
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>>160314478
That wasn't me. But I would agree that war always seems to speed progress tremendously.

If you're actually interested you could just head to wikipedia to read about every advancement made during the early 20t h century, most of which being invented for a military related purpose.

Even the internet.
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>>160314639
>But I would agree that war always seems to speed progress tremendously.
To me, it rather seems that high funding increases progress. War ensures high funding, but only in certain sectors. Civic science funding is decreased during wartime, and consequently civic sciences don't progress slower.
However, even if we assume that war increases overall science funding, which is probably true temporarily, war is then only a sufficient condition, but by no means necessary, since it's the funding that matters.
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>>160314908
>don't progress slower.
progress slower*
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>>160288569
this fuck off amerikkkan pigdogs
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>>160314908
Notice is what you mean. Warplanes coming to your coast is a big motivation to invent something that lets you detect them from vast distances, for example.
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>>160315104
>notice

Motivation*
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>>160315145
Motivation is the part of the same mechanism from a different source, because funding implies both granting the monetary requirements for a project and thereby a monetary incentive (motivation) to conduct the project.

I doubt that motivation out of fear for oneself or one's loved ones really played a big role for the rate of scientific advancement, compared to all sorts of other possibilities. Scientists usually are already very motivated in what they do, and if you meant that to be a structural argument ("motivation to fund" from non-scientists), then you're just using my funding argument.
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> this thread still doesn't get delete
Wow
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>>160315541

Well now you're splitting hairs. Of course we could still provide the funding without war, but why the duck would we? Be realistic.
I didn't mean to imply we wouldn't advance otherwise, just that it would be at a snail's pace.

You can at least agree we most likely still wouldn't have made it to the moon yet without the world wars.
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>>160315775
Speculating on what would've happened without an event so big such as World War 2 or how the whole of human history would've transpired without war is a moot exercise.
Mentioning war already reeks of moving the goalpost anyways, when we were initially talking about giving up scientific ethos in questionable experiments.

>just that it would be at a snail's pace.
That depends on what would be possible with the resources and human lives, human time and institutions lost because of conducting and arming for war.

War isn't the only kind of competition, which is the underlying mechanism behind progress in war, there is.

Maybe we wouldn't have made it to the Moon.
Maybe we'd already have a colony on Mars.
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>>160316261
Maybe the evidence supports me and you're living in fairy tale land


God is a capitalist, evolution by natural selection is all about competing
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>>160316586
Maybe it does. You could then show two studies and a metastudy from reputable journals quantifying progress in both scenarios, instead of relying on unsystematic guesses based on your gut feeling.
Maybe you're just a retard gravitating towards the edgy option because it signals that you're special.
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>>160288709
You're creating connections where they don't exist. Stop trying to analyze things by deconstructing them and applying them to something other than their own context. That may impress your commie university professors, but it will not give you any sort of functional or accurate understanding of a work.
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>>160288715
Why should today's Japanese care about crimes committed over half a century ago? The West is the only civilization obsessed with crippling their descendants with misplaced collective guilt. Stop trying to force your social masochism onto a proud and dignified people.
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>>160312633
They never wanted war with Britain, France, or America, and made several peace offers, all of which were ignored until the "allies" finally declared war on them.
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>>160314251
It's not a rec thread
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>>160314251
That usually happens when people hide their requests under the pretense of a legit thread. It really comes down to whether mods are willing to actually read OPs. It sends a bad message thouhg because it's basically saying rec threads are okay if you bullshit around before asking for anime to watch.
>Also, if anything comes to mind that would fit the description I gave then please tell me, I'm looking for more of this kinda stuff.
Like come on.
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>>160319887
>Also, if anything comes to mind that would fit the description I gave then please tell me, I'm looking for more of this kinda stuff.
Say that again?
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Is this a rec thread disguised as /pol/ thread or /pol/ thread disguised as rec?
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>>160320329
It's a thread about the history of anime and manga. It all started with Japan being broken by world war II you see
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There was a youtube video of a Japanese tourist filming the streets of Paris and it was titled "Am I in Africa"?, it has since been removed.
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