Fate Apocrypha

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I'M GOING TO CUM INSIDE ATALANTA

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Futacat

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dangerous cat thread

>>160270744
This scene is part of MC's POV when he was making anime's opening monologue, just pay attention to scene context associating her with narrative. This scenes from anime's opening monologue are part of the MC memories, in other words, they're a retrospective of his own life and experiences.

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cat alter

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/ourgirl/

Why didn't Spartacus use is noble phantasm?

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>>160272277
>best girl = best boy
How do they do it?!

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Uhh guys.

I think the Grail War is occurring in my town at the moment.

Send help.

>>160272318
His Noble Phantasm requires him to take a shitload of damage, and he just didn't take enough for it to matter.

>>160272382
Quick, bathe in the grail mud and see if you're worthy of living in the new world.

>>160272382
Stay calm, anon. Just head to the nearest Church and you'll be safe.

>>160272318
What is his noble phantasm?

>>160272382
Just sleep on it and hope some crazy Casters aren't involved.

>>160272421
How does the church monitor the grail wars anyway? If some master goes rogue, how are they going to fight someone who has a servant at their side?

>>160272436
He gets stronger the more damage he takes. If he takes too much, he starts morphing into a monster, like what's seen in the first episode. When he gets going, it's pretty much impossible to calm him down, even with three Command Seals.

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OTP
T
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>>160272470
Throw black keys at them until they die?

>>160272382
Quick! Go find Sakura and ask for a fuck, this might be your only chance to have sex.

>>160272470
Same shit they did in Zero I guess.
>go kill this guy and I'll give you command seals

>>160272382
Have a walk around town, maybe you'll find a discarded servant lying around.

>>160272470
You realize the priests have a shitload of Command Seals right?
Also this >>160272561

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Left, right or middle?

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>>160272382
Just a gas leak don't worry about it

>>160272614

>Just a gas leak

... on the SUN?

>>160272611
Middle is the only one worth anything.

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>>160272611
Middle and right at the same time, but with extra bullying for right.

>>160272470
They have the lesser Grail, a whole bunch of Command Seals, and a fucking army.

>>160272647
What sun? That tiny dot? That's you hallucinating because of the gases. Don't worry about it.

>>160272682
What army? Didn't see that in Zero. Those 2 jet guys?

Does Dr. Sumanai even have a license for heart surgery?

>>160272611
Filthy disease hair.

>>160272855
With hair like his, he doesn't need a license.

>>160272611
In that pic? Paizuri.

>>160272382
Hopefully Scathach nee-sama is involved and is taking a dip on the beaches I wanna massage her tired tits.

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>>160272855
He tries to pull out his heart through the abdomen, what the hell do you think?

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Used goods

>>160272611
Middle

>>160272902
What would sex with Scathach's scat hatch be like?

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better scene so far

What happened to Sigfried, is he kill, but I thought he was gonna fight boy saber and balmung her stinking ass?

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>>160273017
Jeanne is PURE!!

>>160272990
Oh gee, I wonder why he didn't just do it through his chest. It's not like there's any kind of protection there or anything.

>>160272990
So his heart is in his stomach? Servants are weirdos

>>160273104
That is Sieg using his heart to take his form hence the fake comments from Mo.

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Reminder that she puts out for golden apples

>>160273149
>>160273193
Ribs. Through the abdomen is the proper way to get to the heart.

>>160273099
The three worst characters in Apo together

>>160273225
I get that, I was being sarcastic, if you couldn't tell from >>160273149

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>>160273144
Reminder that Jannu doesn't eat, sleep and clean herself. She pisses in the woods, and her breath smells like stale dragon semen.

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>>160271693

>>160272486
die

>>160273221

Where the hell would I get golden apples?

>>160272749
Remember what Kirei was before becoming a Mage? An Executor. They're the Church's elite killers, ready to be mobilized at a moments notice if needed. And yes, you do see them in Zero, where they appear to kill Zombies in Kiritsugu's hometown. One faction of those Executors is specifically tasked with Mage hunting.

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>no fran

>>160273341
But can they kill servants?

>>160273342

No one cares about Fran

>>160273380
Possibly Assassins and Caster in close combat, otherwise nope.

>>160273380
That depends. Are you a heartless wifeless emotionless tofu loving priest?

>>160273380
Well, they don't really need to, if that Servant's master is killed first. That's what they can do.
As for the question, I remember reading that Kirei, at his peak, could take on weaker servants like Assassin and Caster in close combat. And that's just Kirei alone. Now imagine 100+ slightly weaker Kireis.

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>>160273268
LIES AND FALSEHOODS!!

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>>160273144
pure slut

>>160273473
YOROKOBE

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>>160273342

>>160273380
Only the True Ancestor hunters.

>>160273380
They just have to use a command seal to make the servant kills his own master

>>160273342
>soda-kun 2.0
delete this

>>160273549
I don't think you know how Command Seals work, anon. You see, you can't use your Command Seals on someone else's servant.

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>>160273511

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Reminder that Jeanne is a slut that only cared about Sieg after he had a dragon cock while Astolfo was by his side when he had a tiny homunculus cock.

>>160273647
Having shit taste is nothing to be proud of

>>160273647
And even with that fact, Astolfo is, without a doubt, still absolute dogshit.

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>>160273268
>24/7 dragon fucking in the woods.

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>>160272382
Is this the work of a Enemy Noble Phantasm?

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Barbed lion futacock.

>>160273268
So what does she do for a change of clothes? Does she just wear the same panties throughout the whole war?

I get this feeling the astolfofag and atalantafag are the same person.

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>The fuck are you looking at?

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>>160273847
A cute girl.

>>160273847
The personification of shit.

Is Narita's other works like Baccano and Durarara worth watching? Because I'm enjoying Strange Fake so far, might as well I give them a try.

>>160273953
I only read Vamp! and I found it really fun.

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>>160273953
Check out Baccano for sure. Opinions are split on /a/ with regards to the quality of Durarara but I personally like it a lot. Although it falls off a bit in the second season.

>>160273953
Baccano is hilariously overrated

>>160273847
>>160273903
>>160273957
vulgar fancervice

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Jeanne wanting Sieg's children isn't a bad thing.

>>160273953
The Baccano anime at least is worth watching. Durarara shows a lot of promise at first but doesn't really live up to it in my opinion.

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I want to fuck a tree.

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>>160274176
>That guy in his underwear
Never fails to amuse

>>160271693
The servants in this show are shit. The only good one was Siegfried and he killed himself

>>160272382
First DON'T try to get Gil.
Secondt DON'T try to get Gil.

>>160272382
I hope you practiced your high jumps extensively

>>160274862
It was so shitty he couldn't bare living.

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>>160274626

>>160274879
Unless you want to be a cuck like Tokiomi and worship him.

>>160275058
>bare

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>>160275058
>it
>bare
Dumb spic.

>>160272382
Knowing anon he'd luck out and encounter Bluebeard or another fuckface and end up part of Cthulhu

>>160275183
Would a servant, not including Hercules obviously, be able to survive a shot from an Achilles, or more specifically, the 17 pounder?

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>>160275041

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>Jeanne Alter and Sieg
Real OTP

>>160273847
Would she let me fuck her if I said a king?

>>160275483
Said "a king"?

>>160275483
No, prototype mordred would though.

>>160275159
MUH

>>160275225
Why is he running?

>>160275428
Altercuck, please.

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>>160275627
Jeanne Alter >>>>>>>>>> dumb APO Jeanne

In preparation for the anime, I tried out Fate/Extra. Since the anime will feature Saber, I picked Saber too. Finished the game. So here's a question. Does Saber stop being annoying in the sequels? Because fucking god I hated her. If that's the main character of the anime, there's no way in fuck I'm watching that shit.

>>160275744
I can't tell you to stop liking your 1-dimentional, tsundere, all muh hate, mobage game hero's dick slurping garbage heap of a waifu. Just know how shit your taste is and let's be on our merry ways.

>>160275883
t. dragon cockfag

>>160275883
Yeah because vanilla Jeanne is so deep

>>160275883
>t. mad jeanneshitter

>>160275483
she'd call you a fag probably.

>>160276052
I want to gently lift Jannu's braid up and decorate her exposed back with my cloudy dragon semen.

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Archer or berserker? What's his NPs? Catalyst?

>>160275873
Fate Extra and Fate Apo Red Saber are two different characters

Assassins are best girls

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>>160273647
Best girlfriend

>>160275883
Normal Jeanne is also 1-dimensional and completely uninteresting.

>>160275873
The Sabers in Extra in Apocrypha are different though.

>>160276963
Semiramis is really underrated.

Why is Atalanta called evil cat?

I see a lot of people saying Karna is pretty much Gil, but so far, I don't see it. His personality wasn't half as interesting, and he couldn't even beat fucking Seigfried. Unless this guy gets naked later on, I don't think he'll ever be even half the man Gil was.

>>160275967
>>160276116
>>160276129
>>160277004
t. Buttblasted mobage shitfags

>>160276833
>Doomguy as servant
>refuses to RIP AND TEAR because servants are not demons
If you could somehow get him to RIP AND TEAR it would be incredibly easy to win - as he may be the single most broken existence in the universe.

>>160277103
she goes berserk after the real form of Jack mindrape her, Achilles has to put her down after that

>>160275883
Apocrypha Jeanne is 1-dimentional too. She is a stereotypical anime girl(Stereotype : Kuudere) with big breasts and generic personality . His personality owns two absurd extremes(for the Kuu part, we've a robotic stoic girl and for the DereDere part, we've a kawaii moeblob school girl).

>>160276833
Archer form gets guns, berserker form is like the powerup in game, ripping them to bits with his hands and fists.

A+ str and end, B agility, B luck.

>>160277297

Convince that the grail uses residual Hell energy but more importantly, the other servants will try to hurt the super top of the shelf bobbleheads. For that, they must die.

>>160277353
I can imagine Doomguy somehow managing to end up using the grail to bring hell to earth after winning, only to kill all the demons and ensure he can keep the bobbleheads safe.

>>160273149
Yeah its called bones lol

>>160277300
MAL-kun, please go and stay go.

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>>160272382

The fuck?
Someone are using all the Command Spells?

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Whats with these shit tier servants not being capable of deflecting arrows or resisting command spells?

>>160277459
It looks more like a reddit-kun from Re:Zero threads, posting about Emilia.

>>160277353
Literally this

>>160277459
t. jeannefag

>>160276975
>draw a girl
>call it a boy

Why is this allowed?

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right or right

the anime is terrible so far

classic case of bloated cast and undercharacterization. The show throws a million characters at you and not a single reason to give a shit about any of them

I get the impression that siegfried's sacrifice is supposed to be meaningful, yet I do not give a single shit because the show never gives you a reason to care about him

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left or left

>>160277925

>The show throws a million characters at you and not a single reason to give a shit about any of them

This is why the anime cut all Red Masters and only show YggMillenial

>>160277925
We don't give a single fuck about the people talking shit. get out

>>160277975
Not even bi/gay but left

>>160278020
holy fuck why are fatesfags so defensive

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>>160274781
top kek

>>160277849
but Anon thats clearly a boy.

>>160277975
Astolfo best girl

Is Sieg just a male Illya?

>>160272323
by drawing a girl, giving it the mannerisms of a girl and making them talk and act like a girl then just tacking on "its a boy" at the end

>>160278141
nope, shes a waifu with penis

>>160277925
This

Only person I might give a fuck is Astolfo thanks to the memes but otherwise the characters are bloated as fuck. Unlike in UBW this adaption doesnt give them any time to grow either. Sieg death highlights this as the character wasnt even remotely interesting or colorful, just bland.

>>160278183
It fucking is. Too bad that there's not a Gil to take DAT heart.

>>160275380
Absolutely. If it isn't magic it doesn't matter. That's why Lancelot is so fucking scary- he could turn that Achilles into a Noble Phantasm that could likely kill a herc life.

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better scene for so

>>160278322
So then would a modern military be capable of dealing with a servant? I'd imagine it would be rather difficult to dodge an MBT's APFSDS, and even more difficult to survive it.

Which begs the question, why didn't any of the mages bother getting a hold of a tank? Seems like a very good idea to me considering the armour and assault capabilities.

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Rider, Caster or Saber? What's his NP? Catalyst?

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>Gil will never be your Servant
Why live?

>>160278532
No gods allowed. Or are you implying that Emperor isn't a god?

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>>160278457
Not that anon but...
>Servants can run few times the speed of sound
>They can swing their arms and perceive them few times faster than the speed of sound
>They can tank and dishout nukes
>They can punch the wall harder than 122mm sabot round

For example Archers saladbowl has the speed of 28565.86 meters per second. No modern military can handle that. Every jobber servant can solo US army

>>160278141
She's clearly wearing a girl's uniform, anon. A boy would never do something like that.

>>160278584
Unless you're someone Gil could take a liking to having him as a servant seems terrible.
At least you should be able to win the grail easily.

>>160277485
Jeanne looks so pretty. Her face makes me feel like raping her.

>>160277861
Why does he turn me on so much when I'm not gay?

>>160277905
I'll go with left. Looks clean and smooth. Right seems to have charcoal and splinters up her pussy. No wonder she's mad.

>>160278590
He isn't? The guy literally said that himself.

>>160278107
Best couple. Other couples can never compete.

>>160278602
I'm fairly sure that servant's aren't anywhere near that fast. The fastest might move close to, or at the speed of sound but that seems overkill, even for Nasu, and
>122mm
Soviet spudlaunchers from WW2 are not known for their penetrating power.

>>160278246
What's an adaption?

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>>160278807

>>160278759
Extremely feminine and looks like a flat chested girl. Has impossible body shape proportions for a male which messes with your unconscious brain.

>>160278763
Left is when she's still an untouched virgin who doesn't know the taste of semen. She would blush a lot, and would only accept handholding sex in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation. Her blowjobs would be rather awkward, and might accidentally involve teeth.

Right is an experienced slut who has had all of her holes stretched by dragon dick. Up for anything by anyone.

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>>160278772

>>160278218
But Anon, his mannerisms aren't girly, they're cute. There's a difference.
>>160278229
He is a boy, what girl would dress like that? he just likes to look cute.

>>160278855
I refuse, getting called a secondary is my fetish, and I will not let you take away this pleasure.

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I'm in love, how do I win her heart?

>>160278929
All you faggots that hop on the "traps aren't gay" meme get pretty tiring.

Let's agree, all Apocrypha servants are unlikable shits.

>>160278936
Become an annoying and slightly cute ladyboy.

>>160278977
I love good traps more than tomboys but Im sure im not gay

>>160278457
>So then would a modern military be capable of dealing with a servant? I'd imagine it would be rather difficult to dodge an MBT's APFSDS, and even more difficult to survive it.
you just ignored my answer. Modern or not, military can't do shit to servants because it's not magic. Literally nothing will scratch that servant you're trying to shoot. Worst case scenario, it just astralizes and you've wasted everything. If you put an entire military under Lancelot's control and he were to Knight of Honor them, then yes, you'd be able to maybe damage one, but without that, no. The servant would win every time. There's a reason noble phantasms can be classified as "anti-army."

>Which begs the question, why didn't any of the mages bother getting a hold of a tank? Seems like a very good idea to me considering the armour and assault capabilities.
/k/ please
mages fucking hate modern shit. The only ones who don't are Waver, Shirou, Kerry, and Shishigo. Arguably Rin as well.
That tank would only even SCRATCH a servant if it was a mystic code, which seems like more trouble than it's worth.

>>160278807
do you even consume this media?
go rewatch literally any UBW fight scene, or better yet, please read the source material.
Nasu and OVerkill are the same word in different languages. Please don't try and apply paltry real world physics and weaponry to something as absurd as Servant fights.
There's a VERY GOOD REASON Kerry only ever shot at masters.

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>>160278980

What about Franken Berserker and Shakespeare? Caster Shakespeare seems like he'd be a total bro.

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>>160273816
Not really

I just wanna hug and snug with this cute but evil cat

>>160278936
You really shouldn't. She does shit with corpses so much that she smells like them constantly, and she's a sadistic piece of shit who uses dark arts.

>>160279024
You are just in denial.

>>160279048
>total bro
>Shakespeare
He's an asshole who behaves like an asshole for asshole purposes.

>>160279043
>muh magic is required to kill a servant
Yet theyre harmed by nonmagical objects. Caster jobbed against Rins punches. Read the fucking VN

>>160279048
>Shakespeare
>Bro
He's pretty much a sociopath

>>160278064
Ignore the Apofags. Apocrypha is trash and probably the worst Fate work ever.

>>160278532
Ruler
Will of the Emperor
Believing in him. When he's around, you unwillingly and slowly start to believe. Great feats generate greater belief.

>>160279043
Sorry, did I say WORST case scenario? I meant BEST.
Worst case is it deflects everything you shoot back at you and you die.
No, wait, worst case scenario is that it just kills you itself.
Fighting servants is something only Shirou and Shiki should do, anon. Leave it to them.

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>>160275873
Literally nothing wrong with best saberface

Who is the best Archer, Chiron or Arjuna?

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Francesca knows what's up.

>>160277103
All she wants is your seed

>>160277689
Siegfried resisted 2 command spells, you shitmonger.


>>160277925
>"the anime"
Read the LN, faggot. It's got a few thousand pages, of course a 25-episode anime is gonna have to skip on a few things.

Your opinion is literally irrelevant until you learn how to pick up a book, secondary cuck.

>>160278915
I'll take left then. Experience comes with time and practice. Plus, no stds.

>>160279098
You mean punches from a magus?
You mean punches that carried inherent magic due to magic circuits?
Please, anon.

>>160278936
How long until she rapes homunculus Astolfo?

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This is Mordred, say something positive about her.

>>160279055
Would you yank on her tail to annoy her?

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>>160279166
[x] None of the above.

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Apocrypha threads remind me to Arc V threads

>>160279193
Beauty knows no gender.

>Shiro Amakusa led a nearly 40k people rebellion at the age of 15
And what have you achieved with your life that has already been twice as long, you the one reading this post in a dimly room?

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>>160279141
Nero is the most cancerous saberclone. Literally a character for cashgrab.

>>160279193
Slut.

>>160279183
Magic circuits only enhance the muscles. The kinetic energy is created by a fist going few hundred meters per second but the acceleration aside the energy aint magical

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Lewd

>>160279299
That's pretty gay

>>160279251
He lost and got killed for it. I did rather live and be a loser.

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>>160275186
>>160275227

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>>160279181
it's amazing how people defend a shitty adaptation by saying "read the source" as if that excuses the shit adaptation

nobody defended the GitS live action by saying "it's okay because the source was good"
nobody defended Avatar adapation by saying "it's okay because the source was good"
nobody defended Tsukihime anime by saying "it's okay because the source was good"
nobody defended the Berserk anime by saying "it's okay because the source was good"

This anime is trash, irrespective of whether whether the source was good or not.

>>160273225
not /a/ related, but this painfully reminds me of the shitty remake of the temple of doom, where the priestguy just kinda pulls the heart out through the ribcage, instead of going wrist-deep into the stomach area like the original.

>>160278977
It's not a meme. Else everyone that likes lolis would be a pedophile.

>>160279295
>magic circuits only enhance muscles
no, that's how Shirou uses magic. Please, stop being retarded.
IF you're the same anon who won't stop talking about guns and shit, please stop. Go rewatch or reread UBW and F/Z. Guns are used in Zero. They don't work, even with Lancelot using them. There is precedent for your questions, and it doesn't end up the way you want it to. Servants are also retarded fast and strong. Even if magic wasn't needed to deal proper damage (which would render Lancelot's Knight of Honor pointless in the first place) 90% of servants summoned are beyond a tank, fighter jet, or platoon of soldiers. You cannot win against Nasu's autism.

>>160273953
Baccano is a tad bit overrated but it's still great imo. Durarara is amazing at least in its first season but later seasons suffers from the Narita problem of many threads moving at the same time, and too many characters.
Watch Baccano and if you can read Durarara.

>>160279374
It's funny, if the source is good people will usually trash the adaptation if it don't live up to the original.

>>160279374
anime = / = your favorite mobage game

>>160279458
>Shirou
If you read the VN you would know that Shirou doesnt represent normal magi

>go and watch
read the fucking vn

>guns dont work
Because guns are used against people who can go supersonic

>shifting goalposts
fuck off

>>160279277
This.
Not only is she annoying, her entire story was retarded and tried too hard. It basically said literally everything known about Nero is wrong, and she was the poor victim of it all. She got her dick sucked harder than any servant ever for no fucking reason.

>>160279112
That's Stay Night.

>>160279277

Having the "black" one as the main character and the "white" one as the villain is a refreshing idea. Then, how about the red Saber (Saber Extra), who appeared in Fate/Extra?

Uro: That character is completely disconnected from the other Sabers. Personally, she looked like a female Gilgamesh to me.

Nasu: If I had written Fate/Zero, then Iskandar would have been a character like Red Saber. In my mind, I can only see Iskandar as a worthy opponent to Gilgamesh, but the Iskandar Urobuchi created was an excellent, wild, and unprecedented character that I could have never thought up. But I want to surpass him somehow, so maybe Red Saber was born out of my drive to create a different tyrant from Iskandar.

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>>160278923
>space marine
>thinking Emperor is a god
How does it feel to be wrong?

>>160279115
Does believing in him makes you belive in yourself and does that scale humans to servant stats?

>>160278977
https://twitter.com/TheorytheCorgi/status/888909753081937920

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>>160279166

>>160279526
that's what I'm saying, though.
I'm not shifting goalposts at all. My point this entire time has been "guns and military weapons do not work against servants." The only way they can is through Lancelot, and then they're only D-rank.

>>160279791
>Modern or not, military can't do shit to servants because it's not magic
?

>>160279675
Yes, and you would believe in his cause. Although he might have to "bless" you with augments so you could perform better.

>>160278977
But I never said traps weren't gay. I also didn't say I wasn't gay either. Anon you're being a fag right now and I don't appreciate it.

>>160279903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gVnXeaf7Kw

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>>160279903
>>160278977
>>160278929
Get a room, traps arent gay. If traps are gay then Im gay too but I know Im straight as fuck

>>160272990
So your a retard then right? You reach up under your ribcage avoiding it.

If I was a trap, I'd fuck insecure anons and make them suck my dick until they accept how gay they are.

>>160280353
>feminine cock
>gay
pick one

>>160280377
So I can fantasize about being facefucked by a cute trap until he cums down my throat without being gay.
Good to know.

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Fate/Zero feels like a perfect prologue for Heaven's Feel yet feel jarring if you go from Zero to Fate and even UBW. Why is that?

>>160280547
>>160280547
Its not gay if you dont swallow

>>160280628
Is it gay if I kiss him and tell him I love him?

>>160275159
What's written in red?

>>160280623
Because the tone is very dark, and closer to Heaven's Feel than Fate and UBW. What's so surprising about that?

Post Heroic Spirits of your nation/people's lore.

America has a few good ones that E Pluribus Unum didn't even touch on. Back when America laid claim to a giant chunk of frontier continent, it spawned a number of stories about people we called the Big Men. Pecos Bill and Paul Bunyan were two of them, and their feats were fucking nuts. Pecos Bill once successfully rode a tornado because he decided it was a thing to do. And it was "not just any old tornado, but the biggest, nastiest tornado he could find. It picked up elephants in Africa and whales out of the Pacific."

Fuck, wish he was in FGO.

Sieg is shit
Astolfo is shit
Jeanne is shit
Jalter is shit

that is all

>>160280752
>dark
More like 'I'll fuck your franchise'.

>>160280817
you are shit

>>160280817
I agree.

>>160280798
bunyan is in FGO- read ryo's comic

>>160280842
zero has its flaws, but its not THAT bad- the people it attracts are worse than the actual product

Honest thoughts on Extella? Are you ready for the sequel?

>>160275041
Who is the girl on the right?

>>160280958
both are traps

>>160280656
Only if you cuddle

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>>160280957
I want Kiara to come back!

>>160280842
You mean Extra?

>>160279177
who

>>160280842
''Fuck your franchise''
Nasu did that himself a long time ago with extra

>>160281061
Gilles fuckbuddy who bodyjacked a loli and summoned himself in the grail war.

>>160280842
Heaven's Feel is just as dark as Zero is.

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>>160280817
sieg = annoying shit
astolfo = annoying faggot
jeanne = boring
jalter = try hard

mordred = best

Latest Apo manga chapter is out guys!

>>160281195
It sure is edgier.

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>>160280941
>the people it attracts are worse than the actual product
This. I like Zero, but I'm still gonna call out faggots who like it for having shit taste.

>>160280752
>Because the tone is very dark
It's not "very dark", it's not even "dark". More serious, maybe. You have been blinded by the enormous amounts of moe bullshit the anime industry spews nowadays you will consider a character not smiling "dark".

Zero was an entertaining cool watch, but I don't think it can compete with pic related.

>>160281134
>>160281033
>>160280842
What's wrong with Extra?

>>160273380
Bazzet killed servants in F/HA and Prisma. But I guess she is the exception

>>160281242
Was Heaven's Feel really that edgy?

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>>160281307
It wasn't, ignore him.

>>160281250
>It's not "very dark", it's not even "dark". More serious, maybe. You have been blinded by the enormous amounts of moe bullshit the anime industry spews nowadays you will consider a character not smiling "dark".
I think it's quite dark dude. The child-murderers, Lancer's suicide scene, the dream sequence with Kiritsugu, Kiritsugu's backstory, Kariya and Sakura's entire stories, there's a bunch of stuff that's dark in Fate/Zero.

Anyone has a link for chapter 10, 11, 12 of strange fake?
>>160281307
Nah

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Why does the Fate fandom suddenly hate Zero? Back then everyone wanted a HF sequel to Zero.

>>160281417
Kirei did describe it as a butchering in the beginning of stay/night, right? What did you expect?

>>160281227
M-muh autistic 5-years-old chav.

>>160281300
Yeah. Does any modern person other than her even have a noble phantasm?

>>160271693
I want to hit that smile with a shovel

>>160281482
I'm not saying that I was surprised by it or anything, but you can't really call it anything but dark, I feel.

>>160281250
>It's not "very dark", it's not even "dark"
it is, but thats literally all urobuchi does so its not really surprising

>>160281514
shes a Ned- not a chav

>>160281482
That's exactly what Zero miserably failed to deliver.

>>160281417
>The child-murderers
Mild edge.
>Lancer's suicide scene
Common. Especially for Lancer.
>the dream sequence with Kiritsugu
Oh no, a more or less philosophical question presented to the protagonist, so dark.
>Kiritsugu's backstory
Common. Especially in shounen shit.
>Kariya and Sakura's entire stories
Shock value (worms).

>>160281546
>>160281417
>Those readers who thought Fate/stay night “should have more than blood, tears and tragic endings”, this is for you! This is the true ‘Heaven’s Feel’, with the battle for survival as its essence!
>This is Emiya Kiritsugu’s other side that was never mentioned until now and unknown by others.
>This is the fourth Heaven’s Feel that’s never been completely described until now.
>Be them the magi on the stage or their Servants; they are all boss level characters, and between them a cruel and merciless battle of elimination will be conducted.
>Urobuchi-san thought ‘Zero is a story based on Fate. So it’s better if Zero doesn’t become available to the public before Fate is released.’ Therefore, after waiting for a year, it was finally released in the winter of 2006. That’s how things went.
>Yes. Zero is canon, but at the same time it is another legend different from ‘Fate/stay night’.
>If we have to define it, it’s an extra part spin out of canon story. It's a unique leaf of a melody that Urobuchi Gen conducted from a completely Fate-ish trunk. Here, you don’t have to consider the content of the ‘Fate/stay night’ game. Only move the story according to your wishes, let the characters shown portray themselves to the fullest and rush towards the ending without regret.

>>160281447
No one actually hates Zero, it's a good series, aside from the shitty ending.

No one expected /Zero to get half as popular as it is, and it drew in too much attention, and since /a/ likes to have an autistic fit every time someone new tries to enjoy their garbage series, they usually blame /Zero, or FGO for secondaries shitting up their threads.

>>160281548
>it is
It's not, holy shit, just because it felt "mature" doesn't mean a thing. Hell, even Tsukihime is darker than Fate/Zero.

Do you prefer Fate and UBW or HF and Zero?

>>160281655
>they usually blame /Zero, or FGO for secondaries shitting up their threads.
You faggots literally are shitting up our threads, what's your problem?

>>160272421
>Going to see the man that uses orphans as mana batteries in his basement

>>160281663
>it felt "mature"
it didnt, it was dark and unpleasant- that doesent make it mature

>>160281663
I step back from the pieces of the chair I just destroyed.

"Shiki-sama, please calm down. Breathing like that is not good for your body."
"I'm fine, leave me alone! I want to be alone, just let me be......!"

I shout that out and run up the stairs.
I passively note that I seem to be running away from her.

"Shiki-sama! Just please do not blast Linkin Park again!"

It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.

This pain probably caused my earlier violent behavior.
Having to see "death" so much these past few days is messing up my brain.
First---I need to calm down now.
As long as I keep my glasses on, this headache shouldn't get worse.

"......... What am I doing? ......... I have to go see Senpai...... quickly."

But, if I see her while I'm like this, I'll only hurt her.
I have to calm down.
Quietly. If I just sit here quietly, my headache will go away.

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>>160281672
Ataraxia.

>>160281703
I don't really have one. I just can't be fucked to hostilepost

If you'd take a moment to read what I replied to, some anon asked why /a/ started hating /Zero.

Is that not the most logical explanation? Do you have one to offer instead?

>>160281447
I don't think its Zero itself they hate, rather the fandom that came from Zero. Because Zero had a different style of writing to Stay Night, it attracted different fans and these type of people generally dislike battle harem series which is what they believe associates with Stay Night.

>>160281571
>Common. Especially for Lancer.
I was more talking about how they went about it, like the reason Kayneth ordered it, Lancer's dying words, and how Kiritsugu had Kayneth shot so that he'd still be alive, but in agonizing pain.
>Oh no, a more or less philosophical question presented to the protagonist, so dark.
I don't have issues with the setup or the meaning of the scene, but I feel like having him blow his beloved daughters brains out is pretty dark.
>Common. Especially in shounen shit.
Doesn't change that it's dark.
>Shock value (worms).
Same as above. Dark stuff can be shocking, very easily.
>>160281611
Don't really get your point with this. It doesn't really contribute to the discussion at hand, from what I see.

>>160281790
>rather the fandom that came from Zero

Explain

>>160277159
I've never even seen a single retard say that.

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>>160281725
>dark and unpleasant- that doesent make it mature
Yeah, it doesn't. But it was lighthearted and pleasant. Especially interactions between Servants (who were supposed to be hostile to one another but it felt like comrades with healthy banter) and Waver-Rider relationship.

I just love it when a character doesn't look like a teenager, something weird in these days

Why is Zero considered a mature anime?

>>160281663
>it felt "mature"
Another reason why people hate secondaries. Mature? Holy shit, what's it? Iskandar also makes the whole series nonmature by himself.

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>>160281447
That is because it is well written and has a compelling cast of characters. Zero was destined to become the dark house of the franchise because it wasn't muh shirou ideals and tohsakas anus scenes

>>160281250
>It's not "very dark", it's not even "dark".
If child murder and torture, completely ruined families, suicides, betrayal of loved ones, massacres, some extremely brutal deaths, everything involving the KKK, Kiritsugu, Kirei and Kariya, if all of that wasn't even dark, what the actual fuck is dark? I need specifics. What sort of action, exactly, would be considered dark by your retarded standards.

You sound like one of those autists who deny anything and everything is dark, in fear of being called edgy, which is just some unholy thing you must never like. In other words, a massive fucking faggot.

>>160281938
Probably that there's no 'moe', cutesy moments and most of the cast are adults.

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This boy's asking you to go take a dip with him into the ocean. Wat do

>>160281948
The fact that most characters in Zero are adults already make it mature. There is a lack of childish behavior.

>>160281986
>No moe
>No cutesy moments
Did you miss about every Waver scene? Kayneth was pretty moe, too, but that's a personal opinion.

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>>160281986
No moe?

>>160281986
Where is the 'moe' and cutesy moments in stay/night?

>>160281992
Take a steaming pile of shit on him. He'll grow in size by absorbing his kind.

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>>160282032

>>160281938
It's not, normalfags takes anything with "Action" and shit talk (Gil and Rider pathetically trying to tease Saber) mature. It's been a fucking nightmare for the tm fanbase since Zero came out.

>>160279632

>wants to make a better character than Iskander
>ends up making one of the worst in the franchise

What did he mean by this?

>>160281954
Why does this sounds like a fag coming out?

>>160281831
>how Kiritsugu had Kayneth shot so that he'd still be alive, but in agonizing pain
Actually, I still don't get why he did that. It was very unutilitarian to cause him harm and not just end his life for the greater good and it seemed he took pleasure from it instead of being completely without emotions. So I'll give you that.
>having him blow his beloved daughters brains out is pretty dark
It was not really his daughter.
>Doesn't change that it's dark.
If we're gonna call every tragic past "dark" the word's gonna lost meaning (I believe it already did) and cause a massive darkness inflation. I'd stick with "common".
>Dark stuff can be shocking, very easily.
It can, but it doesn't mean every shocking thing is dark.

>>160281872
not him but whatever

zero attracts people who view its dark and unpleasant nature as "maturity" and as depth- and who love to espouse it as "a war with mature adults for mature adults" while the supposedly mature adults in zero are less competent and functional as people than the teenagers in FSN, zero has its strengths- it has a novel approach to the teams and has arguably defined Gilgamesh's character in later works, it has some excelent fighting scenes and for all of the cancer he brings Iskandar is certainly amusing, it also has some nice scnes like the banquet

>>160281938
because its cast are "adults" and it has urobutchers trademark edgyness and pessimism

>>160282002
Servants can't be adults. The only adults in F/Z are the Masters.

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Will HF save the Fate franchise?

>>160281872
Zero has a different fandom from SN
One that was born from rather an amazing directed anime and didn't bother with the VN of SN and rather just watched the anime. Which as we all know doesn't hold a candle to the main source. So of course this triggers a sense of ''wow Zero was better'' and this bothers FN babies.

>>160281948
>Another reason why people hate secondaries. Mature? Holy shit, what's it? Iskandar also makes the whole series nonmature by himself.
I was trying to imply his way of thinking, hell, that's the reason I quoted the word. This shit is no more mature than it is dark. See my another post >>160281887

>>160282071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6fKepwU0_k

Zero fanboys say that Kiritsugu is the worst character in the series

>>160282141
Was SN that poorly directed?

>>160282002
>There is a lack of childish behavior.

Tell that to Kerry and Waver

>>160282156
>Digibro
That guy's a fraud. He tries way too hard to find critiques on any action series and yet gives a ton of leeway to romcoms.

>>160282002
But Kiritsugu literally has the same childish dream that Shirou has, Kayneth is doing everything because of childish pride and is blind to things other than being a proper magus, Tokiomi is ignorant of Zouken's machinations and is just as blind as Kayneth, Kayneth is literally a child, Uryu is doing everything for child-like fun and excitement, etc.

Fate/Zero is full of manchildren.