>It's not rape if you use a magic item that will force

>>160137136
Isn't guilt-free rape the ultimate beta fantasy?

When we replace "magic item" with "lots of money" suddenly it doesn't seem so bad anymore.

>>160137136
How many times you gonna make this thread?

>>160137136
>being this triggered

I hate Re:Monster.
Pick up everything you hate on Isekai and put into one story.

>>160137408
great post

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>>160137326
I always thought so.

>>160137414
But the MC is not a NEET
and because of that it's not self-insert

>>160137370
Buts that's realistic isekai isnt about realism.

>>160137449
what if I am not a neet either?

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>>160137422

That manga is pretty great.

>>160137467
only NEETs have self-inserts

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>>160137422
This got a h-game too.

>>160137497
It's embarrassing

>>160137467
>what if I am not a neet either?
Then you should just move on with your life, normie.

>>160137326
>rape somebody
>she falls in love with you

Its a common hentai plot too, maybe this whole "if girls were only giving me a chance" idea.

>>160137497
Shitty power fantasy "story". Is the protagonist as intelligent and wicked as you?

Why are you reading isekaishit? Are you also reading Overlord?

>>160137136
Because Japan have zero sense of romance anymore, what with being a dead inside country.

>>160137604
but what country isn't?

>>160137497
Did someone else pick it up after Rapeman dropped it?

I hope not, I don't want to pick it back up.

>>160137136
Fuck off tumblr re:monster is great
Literally saving the isekai genre

>>160137530
Nice, does it have an official site already?

>>160137136
This was the last straw for me with this series. I could put up with the over-powered bullshit protagonist that is part of all isekai, I was bothered by him basically becoming a weirdly coloured human instead of staying looking like an actual goblin but I was willing to let it go but this shit just pushed me too far and I dropped it.

I can not stand hypocrites and him ousting those other members of his tribe and making rape against the rules then going back on it later with a pathetically weak justification was just hypocritical bullshit. Also it was obviously an excuse to allow the author to avoid having to actually be a good writer, the idea of the main character having to figure out a solution for his tribe so they could breed and not die out while sticking to his own morals about not raping women would have made for an interesting and entertaining plot point that could have been fleshed out to building relations with other races and showing his people how to pick up girls the consensual way.

Nope! Let's just date rape all the girls and pretend it's not rape so we can live out our harem fantasy where we are totally not a rapist because we brainwashed the girls first.
It's fucking lazy, hypocritical, shitty writing and it made me drop this series.

>>160138151
I saw cg on sadpanda.
>[DMM.com] Maou no Hajimekata

>>160138191
I see anon, thanks.

>>160138166
True
What's the purpose of female goblins anyway?

>>160137497
I dropped it when he killed the King and had a threesome with his wife and daughters, after that i released it was trash self inserting manga for losers.

It really isn't rape no matter how vocally butthurt you are about it

>>160137326
Pretty much. I love mind control H-manga because of it.

>>160137497
Which one is the MC?

>>160138449
IIRC, the MC is the faceless bull.

>>160137497
>Wikia

>>160138166
this guy get it

>>160137326
That's not time stop, a.k.a admitting you need to violate the laws of physics in order to have sex.

>>160138338
adding diversity to the harem
>>160139133
ha

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>>160137497
>rapes the warrior girl
>"Well I attacked him so I deserved that rape he's not a bad guy"
This fucking manga

>>160138166
You guys really care a lot about rape huh
I just read it because the art is kinda nice and it's kinda like a fantasy pokemon

>>160137654
America is still passionate.
Just about the wrong and dumb things
Islamic countries I hear also are having a blast.

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>>160137136

>MC doesn't fuck his harem
>gets called a beta
>Mc fucks his harem
>shit Self insert wish fullfillment MC

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>>160139133
You better shut the fuck up, time stopping is the ultimate alpha chad thundercock way of fucking.

>>160139471
Well, it's true that he has the right to rape an attacker in place of killing her in self-defense, also he has magic, there is the stockholm syndrome and females are naturally inclined to give in to strong males and betray their tribe to the conqueror

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>>160139761
What is the purpose of rape if the girls like it.
Don't call it rape then.

>>160139610
wat

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>>160137136
Fucking gob scum.

this is just so sleazy manga

>>160139898
well I mean, sure, he goes out of his way to justify his rape
so what? I don't care what he thinks
I just want to see fights and whatever new species they evolve into
people here are always trying to prove their taste or something, it's ok to enjoy trash and not think about it too much

>>160139929
Truly the hero we need

>>160139968
Human with big appendages is your appeal to this series?

>>160139968
Everyone wanted to see the evolution and fights
But instead, we got chapters devoted to this rape shit

>>160140019
How mad would the mongoloids who like re:monster be if it ended with goblin slayer shitting fury all over the McDonald's and destroy all he achieved

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>>160140080
I just said what the appeal is
you just like hating things I suppose

>>160140080
Not the same guy, but I love to picture myself as one of the harem member, pretty gay huh

>>160140114
... probably should've checked if my phone turned mc into fucking McDonald's before I posted

>>160140114
you're fantasizing about getting fans of another isekai mad?
Is this some kind of meta-isekai?

>>160140096
>Everyone wanted to see the evolution and fights
>But instead, we got chapters devoted to this rape shit
Speak for yourself, beta faggot, the rape is the least unbelievable part of the whole story.

>>160140212
>unbelievable
what the fuck
WHO CARES

>>160140166
I mean I'd read that

>>160139761
There's a difference between 'Kill no one' and 'Kill everyone'
It's called 'Kill the Joker'
You can have that middle ground, where the MC fucks his harem but isn't a complete morally bankrupt asshole about it.
Japan never does this because they are so detached from the ideals of romance and love.

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>>160137136
Friendly reminder that it doesn't matter one way or another because unlike the rest of the world, Japan isn't free to btfo SJWs.

>>160140166
>Is this some kind of meta-isekai?
No a Meta isekai would be a MC who is super familiar of a particular setting, and gets sent to the total opposite setting.
Like a total DQ/Old FF nerd being sent to Star Wars

>>160140272
>You can have that middle ground, where the MC fucks his harem but isn't a complete morally bankrupt asshole about it.
How is he the morally bankrupt asshole when all of them were aggressors who tried to kill him and he is lenient enough to only do them after making them aroused enough that they want it?

>>160137497
>>160137530
>>160137422
>People read this, at all.

>>160139133
I've thought the "rape the girl then blackmail the girl with a video of the rape to turn her into a sex slave" plot weird. But then the rapist is invariably some kind of weird fat ugly man that barely looks human so I wonder why that's so popular. That and the whole blackmail with evidence of crime being a good idea.

>>160140352
>I am the absolute number one in medieval fantasy lore
>But I was sent to an advanced alien universe and found a super strange mineral that gave me cosmic powers???
>OP as shit but doesn't really understand the world at all
>chuuni shit
It just might work, but if actually made, Japs would make it impossibly generic

>>160140329
Thats fucking nice.

>>160140463
When you visit websites like Royal road, you know japs are not the only problem

>>160140539
Or the site formerly known as AnonKun
RIP Akun, fuck Kas

>>160138166
I thought this was a copy-pasta.

And the point is that they ARE going to be made into actual whores for the goblins. He's just mndbreaking them gently as a courtesy.

>>160137497
I loved how mad it makes the neofaggots that come to /a/

>>160139790
It's not rape if he's doing it for justice.

>>160137136
>you'll never have a magical item and trick girls into fucking you like possessed sex slaves

why even go on

>>160137326
>>160138446
>controlling them to want to rape you
I was salivating for Aiue Oka's Bullied Hypnosis second chapter. I dread the upcoming third chapter.

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If they enjoy the rape it's shit.

>>160141113
It's not rape, anyway. They are just tsundere despite being super happy that they get the D instead of being killed and eaten.

>>160141176
That still sounds vaguely rapey

>>160139626
>blast
And an aloha snack bar to you too, Carlos.

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>>160137136
They came to fight and lost so mr. ogre can do what he wants (except the human girls, they were saved then wanted the D).
He's actually merciful that he's drugging them to make it easier since he can just outright rape them instead.

>>160141215
Rape is a moral judgment, they were all enemies, and not even civilians, and attacked first. Killing them in self-defense would have been perfectly valid, killing them later on because they are still enemies who can't be trusted not to stab you in the back would still be valid, thus making them accept to be assimilated into the tribe is the most merciful action you can realistically expect without ignoring the harsh nature of the setting and thus all of its inhabitants.

>>160141176
For me the problem is the author's terribly shallow depiction of women. I can't really believe they'll all just submit to dick. None show reluctance after the first dicking, which I really don't buy, given that women IRL can hang around for years before fucking you over.
The first one to show some initiative was the stabby hero. I'd expect at least one small rebel group that tried to kill Ogarou during sex.

>>160141391
>Its not rape if they're enemies
Okay there nanking.

>>160141366
>drugging them to make it easier since he can just outright rape them instead.
You misunderstand. Drugging them is simply another fetish.

>>160141440
That would only be a valid comparison if Nanking had attacked the Japanese in their own homeland but lost.

>>160141391
>Entirely civilization entirely based around stealing, raiding and raping.
>People fight back.
>Raping them for fighting back is totally just self defense, they should be happy I'm just raping them.
>What do you mean I'm the bad guy??? I'm just doing self defense rape!

I have a dumb-ass question:
Giving someone a drug to make them super horny so they don't resist you when you make a move on them is date rape, I get that.

What about the Axe cologne commercial, where you do something to yourself to make you irresistible to a un-tampered-with girl. Is that still rape?

My masturbatory fantasies hang in the balance, here.

>>160141781
Well, MC hasn't started expanding.

>>160141431
>For me the problem is the author's terribly shallow depiction of women.
Compared to what? 2d waifus? Real women throughout history have surrendered to conquerors all the time and in this case they get to become the consorts of a superhuman, attractive, surprisingly nice man who can please them more than puny humans could.
>None show reluctance after the first dicking, which I really don't buy,
Except for the female knight who stabs him in the heart while he sleeps?
Most of them don't have realistic hopes of defeating the OP mc, anyway, and there are some that completely voluntarily partake in all of it and create an amiable atmosphere for those who might feel reluctance. Sure, there could be more elaborate depictions of it all, but it's just a fucking diary form web novel, after all. Did you bitch like this when you first read about the Rape of the Sabines?

>>160141440
I explicitly mention that they weren't civilians and were the aggressors.

>>160141909
Well, I was unfair. The girl goblins do get a bit of character, even if they all want oga dick. But all captured humans are just waiting for dick to start functioning properly.

>>160141825
I don't believe that would be deemed rape. If it was then you could call owning a nice car rape since it makes women more willing to have sex with you.

>>160141781
Do you even realize that the humans in that setting are not any better? They murder, enslave and rape elves for example, and this particular generation of goblins hadn't done anything really atrocious yet, anyway.

>>160141909
>>160141722
>The rape is okay because they're my enemies. I'm the good guy still.
I believe you, Gengis.

>>160141825
Honestly the whole idea of seduction is a bit rapey. The whole idea is that you meet an initially unwilling partner and manipulate them emotionally to have sex with you. I wouldn't call it "rape" in the legal sense since they ARE making a sober choice but its still off-putting in my opinion.

I think I mostly like this series for the nonchalant tone. All of the regular isekai shit is dumb but the tone sets it apart and makes it not obnoxious to read.

>>160142025
>literal rape caves
>entire population relies on attacking their neighbors, stealing their things and kidnapping their women so they can be raped to death
>no wait, yes we rape and steal and bring nothing good to the world but we haven't begun the maximum overrape so please don't attack us please, yeah we attacked you yesterday but it's not today, yet, I mean come on please?

The rise of the isekai genre really shows how justified Japanese women are in not fucking Japanese men and letting their country age itself into extinction.

>>160141973
Well, I won't deny that the characters are pretty shallow, but that's true for everyone, not just the females. Although I would say that it's perfectly natural for most people in a setting like that to have low IQs and be rather simple compared to our standards.

>>160142050
But the rape victims are much more similar to Genghis themselves. They were the invaders.

>>160141431
magic drugs

>>160142297
>They were the invaders.
Where did the goblins come from again?

I don't know why people are always getting triggered over this its just your usual mediocre as hell narou monster reincarnation.
>Muh rape
>Muh I'm offended
Take a hike.

>Forcibly pumping women full of drugs to make them mindlessly horny so they won't say no and imprisoning them so they can't get away or stop the drug pumping isn't much different than seducing a woman with money or a nice car guys.

>>160142381
I'm not upset about rape.
I'm upset at how shit it is, with the terrible rape writing being part of it.

If you're going to write rape, make it rape. Not meme-rape.

>>160142381
It's more that some retard is getting triggered at the idea that his goblins might be in the wrong and is going full nigger by pleading "adventurer brutality".

>>160142252
The humans have elf sex slaves they can't really make a moral argument against goblins enslaving humans and the MC ended that practice. And what do you mean they bring nothing good to the world? Humans don't bring anything good to non-humans, either. This goblin actually is trying to change the behaviour towards something more civilized.

>>160142363
>Where did the goblins come from again?
From the misdeeds of the previous generation of goblins which the mc ended and replaced with something much less inhumane than what humans do to other races.

>>160142502
I don't know man every time I open Re:monster threads it just complaints about rape rape rape. That's the 'rape style' author went with and he ain't changing it. The diary format sucks ass though wish he did something about that.

>>160137467
>what if I am not a neet either?
You have to go back.

>>160142381
Rape isn't the problem. They're literal monsters and in his former life MC was basically a sociopath. What people dislike are the stupid mental gymnastics the author is trying to do to justify why its not actually rape. I mean ffs he makes a ruthless cannibalistic monster mc and then balks at the idea of rape?

>>160142103

Ehhh, I think that's going a little far. "Seduction," is just a word we use to describe the normal, biological courting process. I get the idea of manipulating someone who doesn't want to fuck into wanting to fuck being weird, but I don't think that's the right way of thinking about seduction. It's more accurate to think of it as the process by which one person informs another person that they are sexually desired, and inviting them to do something about that.

The idea of "the chase," in human sexuality is obviously a really complicated one to break down, but I think it's fair to say that "seduction," only really crosses the line you're talking about when it continues after a definitive, humorless, blunt-edge rejection.

>>160142634
>The Goblins didn't do nuffin. Theyre good boys! Go to Goblin-church every Sunday.

>>160142645
Because the author is a fucking hack and can't write. If he wasn't a retard he'd be able to write the girls actually liking MC for reasons other than
>Rape drugs lol
>Rape felt good lol
>Rape is good because he was kind when he did it lol

>>160142502
>If you're going to write rape, make it rape. Not meme-rape.
A meme that's older than humanity. Does the rape of the sabines trigger you this much, too?

>>160142523
>It's more that some retard is getting triggered at the idea that his goblins might be in the wrong and is going full nigger by pleading "adventurer brutality".
Yes, I am the one getting triggered. That's why you have to use strawmanning to keep up your strong front.

>>160142801
More strawmanning. Did you even read it? The MC is absolutely amazing at everything, he is surprisingly nice, the trains the women to become stronger, even the elves who happily ask to be fucked by kobolds are participating in group training and bonding with the monsters.

>>160142634
"Don't counter attack, we may have profited from this action in every possible way but we stopped literally yesterday and now are doing something that's different but still effectively the same. Yeah you left your village right after the raid and yeah your family members we kidnapped are in still in our rape caves right over there and yeah we've got the loot that you used to consider your possessions but it's not like the bad guys ok?"

>It's not murder if you torture someone until they beg for death.
Yeah sure buddy.

>>160142634

>This goblin actually is trying to change the behaviour towards something more civilized.

Well, he fell back into rape, so he's failed. The problem is the narrative treating it like he's done nothing wrong in that failure, or rather like the failure didn't even exist.

>>160142737

This. The issue is the author's cowardice. He's trying to have his cake and eat it to by pretending an obviously evil act isn't evil for the sake of a gag and/or wank material.

>>160142634
>More civilized.
>We used to kidnap and rape women.
>Now we conveniently only have sex with prisoners who our boss mindbroke through a combination of drugs and rape.
>Also lets ignore the fact that there are enough female goblins that there isn't a clear reason why we still need to keep fucking with every other race to procreate.

>>160143002
>by pretending an obviously evil act isn't evil for the sake of a gag and/or wank material
So what's the issue?

>>160142983
>Did you even read it? The MC is absolutely amazing at everything
Yes and that's why I know he's a mary sue for tards who've failed at life. At one point eats a rock to learn the "power over all matter" skill. Isekai with skill/sage/omniscience are shit tier in a sea of shit.

>>160141825
Depends.

If it makes you look more attractive and/or makes them horny it is not rape. It is the womans choice to act on that urge.
If it actually makes you irresistible in a way that directly alters the state of mind, then it is rape as the woman has no way of choosing.
In porn, aphrodisiacs that make them unable to think of anything but sex with the first thing they see would fall under the later, while taking advantage of a drunken woman would be the former as free will was still involved.

>>160143145

Because the story is ostensibly about taking an evil civilization and making it no evil, so when you turn an evil act into a joke and/or jump through hoops to justify why it's not evil it fucks the story up.

>>160142988
There is not a single one of the women being "raped" now who were counter attacking for anything explicit being done to them or their fellows.

>Yeah sure buddy.
It's not murder (well, it is legally in most places, but not morally) if you torture someone who tried to kill you until they beg for death, indeed. A system of justice would usually disincentivize that from being done, though.

>>160143121
That's actually civilized compared to the humans, though. They have no problems with kidnapping and raping elven women.

>>160143179
>Yes and that's why I know he's a mary sue for tards who've failed at life. At one point eats a rock to learn the "power over all matter" skill. Isekai with skill/sage/omniscience are shit tier in a sea of shit.
Isn't that "moving the goalpost"? Also, what is a champ like you even doing on /a/ of all places? Don't you have better things to do on a weekend?

>>160143275
> Humans don't bring anything good to non-humans, either.
>The humans have elf sex slaves they can't really make a moral argument
>Humans don't bring anything good to non-humans, either.
>Isn't that "moving the goalpost"?
K.

>>160143210

>while taking advantage of a drunken woman would be the former as free will was still involved.

Well, it depends on HOW drunk you are. Impairment of judgment can cross the line into your free will not being part of a decision. Of course it can be difficult to draw lines in such situations, which is why we as societies decide collectively via laws where the line is, and why we have unofficial codes of conduct via the Social Contract, which is where social pressures like "It's not right to take advantage of a drunk girl and we will shun you if you do it even if it wasn't technically illegal," come from.

>>160143275

>It's not murder (well, it is legally in most places, but not morally) if you torture someone who tried to kill you until they beg for death,

>not morally

... so you're a sociopath then. I really never thought I'd read the words "It's not morally murder if you torture someone to death as long as its in self-defense." Like, fucking wow.

>>160143275
No, that's definitely murder.

>>160140377
Rape is still rape, no matter how much you sugarcoat it. You can't have your characters rape other characters and then say "Oh, they wanted it anyways" and expect people to just shrug it off.

>>160138384
>I dropped it at the last translated chapter
Uhh...

>>160142983
>Muh Sabines
Can you try and stay on topic? I'm sorry you're upset everyone thinks your "not rape" fantasy story is shit.

>>160137731
Yeah Seven Seas did, it's licensed anon.

>>160143413
>> Humans don't bring anything good to non-humans, either.
I am directly responding to the point that it's okay to attack goblins because they don't bring good to the world. You apply standards to one side, but not the other side.
>>The humans have elf sex slaves they can't really make a moral argument
Against goblins doing the same to them. That would be hypocritical. Unless of course, as individuals, the particualr humans also disapprove of their fellow human's practice.
>>Humans don't bring anything good to non-humans, either.
>>Isn't that "moving the goalpost"?
It literally isn't when you brought it up to begin with.

>>160143554
>>160143595
>You have to spare your enemies
I am not saying torture is a good thing, but it doesn't transform self-defense into murder.

>>160143693
>Rape is still rape, no matter how much you sugarcoat it. You can't have your characters rape other characters and then say "Oh, they wanted it anyways" and expect people to just shrug it off.
It's not rape, though. They ask for it themselves after being aroused with drugs. While unrealistic, that's even less rape than drunk sex.

>>160143456
Where I draw the line is if they willingly drank enough to get to that point it's their own fault if they don't like anything that comes afterwards. If they weren't forced to they could've stopped at any point but chose not to.

It's up to the person to know their own limits and have even a modicum of self control. If they go past it and wake up naked in a bush with vomit in their hair and ten tattoo's that's their own fault.

>>160142502
Fuck off moralfag, he did it for the sake of the horde and the drugs is to alleviate the victim's mental trauma.
He even gives the captures rights.

>>160143693
Consensual rape is an okay though.

>>160143816
Sorry but maybe you haven't noticed the scale of what the goblins have been doing. Their entire civilization is based on kidnapping and rape. You're saying that because there's elf slaves (moving goalposts) that means humans can't try to stop goblins from attacking them. Why? By your logic the humans are acting in self defense.

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>>160143816
>It's not rape, though. They ask for it themselves after being aroused with drugs. While unrealistic, that's even less rape than drunk sex.
Nigga.

>>160144003
Consensual murder is also ok but less sexy.

Sometimes I forget actual sociopaths browse this site.

>>160143970
>The drugs are for their mental trauma.
The trauma they'd otherwise get from being raped by Giblins?

>>160143275
>what is a champ like you even doing on /a/ of all places? Don't you have better things to do on a weekend?
>Browsing /a/ means you can't have standards and dislike boring power-trip characters.
Not him, but the MC is a sue even among sues, he makes the sonic self-insert written by that autistic manchild seem tame in comparison.

>>160144158
Consensually rape then consensually murder her is better.

>>160143921

>Where I draw the line is if they willingly drank enough to get to that point it's their own fault if they don't like anything that comes afterwards.

Your line will get you thrown in prison pretty much everywhere. Just, you know, FYI.

>>160144161
This site was built with pedo traffic. It's just gotten more moral as the younger users outgrew their edgy teens and it gained greater mainstream attention. And some actual sociopaths got busted.

>>160144408
Only if I'm not a millionaire.

>>160144408
I think the drunk rape line should be about the same as the drinking and driving line. If a female drinks enough alcohol that she can't legally drive then she's responsible for anything she does or happens to her afterwards.

>>160143721
>Can you try and stay on topic? I'm sorry you're upset everyone thinks your "not rape" fantasy story is shit.
I am just saying that it's not memerape.

>>160144012
>Sorry but maybe you haven't noticed the scale of what the goblins have been doing.
It's one rape cave with a tiny population.
Their entire civilization is based on kidnapping and rape.
It's not even a civilization.
You're saying that because there's elf slaves (moving goalposts)
How is it moving goalposts to say that it's not any less moral for goblins to aggress against humans than it is for humans to aggress against goblins because both sides are amoral to begin with?
that means humans can't try to stop goblins from attacking them. Why? By your logic the humans are acting in self defense.
By my logic, all of them are amoral because they all attack, enslave, rape and murder other races, thus using humane methods to replace rape is relatively acceptable.

>>160144115
It's literally not rape.

>>160144161
>Sometimes I forget actual sociopaths browse this site.
Just so you know, I don't approve of the behaviour of any of the sides, I just judge them all by the same, universal standard which noone else here seems to be capable of.

>>160144194
I agree, it's terribly written and everything, but that doesn't excuse normalfags from spouting lines like "this is only for losers".

>>160144537

The drunk driving law's preserving your culpability despite your impaired judgment is about what you do to other people, not what's done to you. It's not legal to be killed or maimed or robbed when you're drunk, why should it be legal to be raped? That's incredibly dumb.

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>>160144559
>It's not rape.
How is it NOT rape? He wouldn't have crushed any puss without his meme drugs that he kept near them that serves no purpose other than
>Get them so aroused they can think of nothing but a dick hitting their uterus.
That's LITERALLY rape. Are you retarded?

>>160137136
I just read a few chapter of this. I thought "power fantasy" and "self-insert" were mere buzzwords.

>>160144559
>but... the ELVES!
Because it's moving the goal posts. You couldn't argue that what the goblins were doing was moral or ethical and you're desperate to paint it as some kind of "self defense" so you started talking about anything else in the hopes of changing the subject.

>get drunk
>meet woman who is currently drunk too
>fuck her
>she wakes up then blame you for raping her
>get jailed
Drunk rape is too difficult to be differentiated with drunk sex. If the woman is sober then basically doesn't want to admit that you consensually fuck her, she can tell the police that she's raped.

>>160144702
Driving a car into a lamp post is the same as driving a vagina into a penis.

>>160140801
That item exist, anon.

It's called "money", rarity "fuckloads of". Also works for women against hot boys.

>>160143275
Who the fuck raised you and gave you moral guidance, Ted Bundy? Fuck outta here with that shit.

>>160137326
all rape is guilt-free.

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>>160144781

Sensible Chuckle

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>this thread

>>160144713
But they literally consent to the sex, how is it rape?

>>160144720
>Because it's moving the goal posts. You couldn't argue that what the goblins were doing was moral or ethical and you're desperate to paint it as some kind of "self defense" so you started talking about anything else in the hopes of changing the subject.
What the hell? They literally attacked them first, you are the one who argued that they had the right to attack first because other goblins attacked other humans in the past, so I countered with humans attack other races all the time, too.

>>160144746
The drunk rape law is ridiculous because even if both parties were well beyond the point of legal consent, the man is still the one charged with a crime.

>>160144559
>I agree, it's terribly written and everything, but that doesn't excuse normalfags from spouting lines like "this is only for losers".

You don't necessarily have to be a loser to like this, you just have to be somewhat touched in the head and have an extreme case of shit taste.

What's the premise of this? Is it original?

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>remember that this edgy shit is getting an anime in 2019
>isekai and become a loli
you have an irresistible pussy and get raped for 6 months

https://taidadonotranslations.wordpress.com/hakai-me-no-yuuri/chapter-02/

>>160144858

Consent isn't consent when it'd induced by a bio-chemical imbalance that you forced upon them against their will. Duh.

>>160144858
>But they literally consent to the sex, how is it rape?
BECAUSE THEYRE DRUGGED OUT OF THEIR MIND!
It's literally rape because they are drugged to the point where they want NOTHING but MC's dick.

How is that NOT rape?

>>160144858
>They literally attacked them first
The humans attacked them first because... what? Would the humans have attacked if there was no raids and no rape caves?

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>>160144933
Holy shit, that shit gets anime already while my favorite isekai anime is literally never?
Fuck this world.

>>160144971
It's not rape if you use a drill to lobotomize a woman until she's unable to say no.

>>160144188
Yes, the normal gobs treat their slaves like garbage that they die a few weeks later.

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>>160144933

>rpg element isekai
dropped
>rape for 6 months
picked the fuck up

>>160144933
Reminds me of that hentai where an adventurer is turned into a female by orcs and then is raped in every single chapter by everyone. Orc, other adventurers, merchants. Eventually saved by a "nice" orc.

>>160144882

You know, idiots hadn't stopped the Equal Rights Amendment from being passed, this wouldn't be the case because it would be unconstitutional to treat men and women differently under the law. But because they stopped it, society at large decided that the law has to be unbalanced toward men as a form of deterrence based on statistical studies of the crime.

Makes you think, huh?

>>160145032
It's not rape if you ask a woman
>"Wanna see a magic trick?"
And when she says yes you forcibly make your dick vanish in to her cunt.

>>160145032
Of course it is.
There are two kinds of rape.
First is when you sex somebody that is unconscious or in other way impaired.
The second is when you forcefully sex somebody.

>>160137497
I literally cut myself on this edge

>>160144858
>humans attack other races all the time, too.
And do these races attack humans back in retaliation?

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>>160145136
WTF I love ancap now.

>>160145106
No, its because of a statistical difference in both crime and punishment. That a law new law had to be implemented to stop men from imposing themselves over women. Laws are created to curb behavior. Under previous enforcement, behavior of both the criminals and the justice system was not curbed to keep civil peace. So a new law had to be created to ensure equal protections.

>>160144882
Because men don't get pregnant anon

>>160144951
>Consent isn't consent when it'd induced by a bio-chemical imbalance that you forced upon them against their will. Duh.
So when I fight off a female assassin and my manly pheromones make her horny, I am a rapist if I don't say "no, you are too drugged to consent"?

>>160144971
>How is that NOT rape?
Because they still consent while not impaired in any other way than being horny.

>>160144984
>The humans attacked them first because... what? Would the humans have attacked if there was no raids and no rape caves?
They attack other, friendly races, so probably, yes.

>>160145232
>And do these races attack humans back in retaliation?
Yes, and they also enslave and rape in retaliation, just like the goblins.

>>160145083
It's a aight WN for WN standards, she might be a magical nuke that can set a whole country on fire but her bones are made of broken glass and she'll never grow past looking like a 10-year old.

>>160137136
This guys is like twice as tall as the girls, I hate it when authors do that.

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>>160137136
This reminds me of Teaching Feeling.
If you give enough aphrodisiac to Sylvie, she won't be able to hold back and will rape you in your sleep.
But you give her the aphrodisiac knowing what will happen. So I wonder who's raping who.

Maybe we can just agree that magical lust items and potions are not real and therefore our usual laws don't really factor them in.

>>160145679
>he's a sub-12' manlet

>>160145701
Sylvie would glady do anything doc wants without aphrodisiac tho.

>>160145592
>They attack other, friendly races, so probably, yes.
So you're arguing that the humans weren't attacking because of the rape caves and raids by the goblins. They were just doing it just randomly and somehow the evil monsterous humans just attacked the goblins for no reason since the goblins didn't do nuthin and were just trying to get their lives back on track.

>>160137497
>>160137136
Why can't he just be like that one dude with mind control powers WN who doesn't justify shit. He rapes then and then admits it and then keeps doing it because he likes it.

None of that bullshit "oh but she wanted it all along so I'm not actually evil"

>>160145848
Because the Re Monster MC is all sympathetic and shit, he is a good boy and can't do no wrong, even when he does.
Also goblins aren't evil rapists, after all the humans do it too so is right to do it to them, and they aren't allowed to fight back.

>>160137136
I dropped it as soon as the aphrodisiac slime tentacle orgy happened. I understand people are sick of beta harem protag never getting laid, but this is not the answer.

>>160145592
>They still consent
Their mind is addled with until theyre filled with nothing but "I. NEED. DICK."
By the MC's magic drug.
That's rape, Doug. You raped Patti.

>>160145848
Ever read any of those timestop/blackmail/debt/husband needs job rape stories? It's always the woman's fault because she somehow snubbed the guy once or something so everything that happens to her is morally justified. It allows for some guys to self insert to get their vicarious revenge on a girl they've wanted to have sex with.

>>160145783
>So you're arguing that the humans weren't attacking because of the rape caves and raids by the goblins. They were just doing it just randomly and somehow the evil monsterous humans just attacked the goblins for no reason since the goblins didn't do nuthin and were just trying to get their lives back on track.
That's literally the case here. It's just fiction, after all. The humans they fought weren't a valiant subjugation force with the aim of saving rape victims, taking revenge and preventing future tragedies.

>>160145996
>Because the Re Monster MC is all sympathetic and shit, he is a good boy and can't do no wrong, even when he does.
>Also goblins aren't evil rapists, after all the humans do it too so is right to do it to them, and they aren't allowed to fight back.
I can't believe how you can't see that both sides are equally amoral and thus can't really blame each other.

>>160145996
Thats probably how rapists think.
>Sure I raped her, but that other girl 2 years ago used to make fun of me
Or something like that.

>>160146148
>I can't believe how you can't see that both sides are equally amoral and thus can't really blame each other.
If the story was presented as gray and gray morality no one is right, then you'd have a point, but it's clearly written from the point of view of "the protag is a good boy he dindu nothin, look at this girls who want his dick and its totally not rape"

>>160137497
Whatever happened to this series anyway, is it still going?

>>160146079
>rape
>A criminal offense defined in most states as forcible sexual relations with a person against that person's will.
I don't know which definition you are going by, but to me mind control of any sort literally circumvents the definition of rape. And the drugging is perfectly valid because they were the aggressors and their lives were spared.

>>160146356
How is mind control any different from being cold out on roofies?

>>160146148
>I can't believe how you can't see that both sides are equally amoral and thus can't really blame each other.
Oh I see it, but the story paints it as the MC being the good guy saving the innocent gobbos from the evul humans and totally !not raping the humans that attacked first for no reason at all.
He is also totally not an hypocrite for killing members of his tribe before for trying to rape, and then pulling this shit. Nope, he is too good for that.

It all boils down to the MC being a total sue who bends morality and the story so he is always painted in a positive light.

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>>160137136
>develop a way to force your victim to have mutual consenting missionary with lights off while holding hands for bonding and procreation
Slaanesh would be proud of this rape.

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>>160146356
You are fucking retarded.

>>160146231
>If the story was presented as gray and gray morality no one is right, then you'd have a point, but it's clearly written from the point of view of "the protag is a good boy he dindu nothin, look at this girls who want his dick and its totally not rape"
I have never once felt like the author cares about morals and that the MC is supposed to be "good", it's typical pre-Christian "might makes right" morality in a world where all races act that way and the MC just went "rape victims are pitiful, I want to be better than that so I'll use fantasy drugs to make them want it instead" because the author and the readers feel like rape is bad.

>>160146079
What if her mind is so filled with dicks that she rapes the guy?

>>160146079
HONK HONK

>>160137136
>It's not rape if it's an elf™

>>160146536
Woman can't be a rapist.

>>160140166
>Goblin Slayer
>sekai

>>160146649
What if she raped another woman?

>>160137497
I'm curious if the protagonist's supposed weakness of being physically inept ever comes into play or is ever shown. He seems physically okay. Heck, I'm thinking the protagonist is more concerned about plowing everything in sight than anything else.

>>160146673
See >>160146649

>>160146534
>I have never once felt like the author cares about morals
really nigger? Look at the picture posted by the OP.

>>160146665
It would be if the MC of Goblin Slayer was transported to the Re:Monster world.

>>160146832
There are no trucks in Goblin Slayer

>>160146458
>How is mind control any different from being cold out on roofies?
>unconscious, wakes up, finds out she was fucked, hates it
>conscious, enjoys it, asks for more
Now I would grant you that drugging a woman who didn't do anything to you is immoral, but drugging your prisoner who tried to kill you (i.e. you have the right to kill her in self-defense) seems acceptable to me.

>>160146492
>Oh I see it, but the story paints it as the MC being the good guy saving the innocent gobbos from the evul humans and totally !not raping the humans that attacked first for no reason at all.
I didn't notice that at all, he seems to look at them as mindless rodent pets until they evolve to a less than ape level of intellect.

>>160146522
>You are fucking retarded.
I think you might be right.

>>160146791
>really nigger? Look at the picture posted by the OP.
The author and his characters are different matters, rape is the only thing he has an issue with because the author and the readers feel that it's bad, not because of any moral principles.

>>160146534
>I have never once felt like the author cares about morals
Right, that is why he had the MC brutally beat the shit out of some of the strongest members of his tribe (did he kill them too?, don't remember) because they tried to rape the captives.
The author cares about morals, but not more than he cares about his self-insert sue having a totally consensual harem. That or he thinks that drugging someone doesn't make it rape.

>>160146832
Then the MC of goblin slayer would get rekt by the Remonster MC, then it somehow would paint him as a evil guy who deserved to die and his backstory totally wouldn't matter.

>>160146937
>The author and his characters are different matters, rape is the only thing he has an issue with because the author and the readers feel that it's bad, not because of any moral principles.
Thinkin "rape is bad" is caring about morals m8.

>>160146937
You do realize that its not the severity of the effect on the victim that makes a crime a crime but the willing violation of somebody else's rights by the attacker? For example if you tried to rape somebody but she actually wanted the d, you are still committing an attempted rape.

And if you kill somebody in self defense you do it to stop the attack on your life. How is a rape possibly defending your life?

>>160146984
Did you stop reading at what you quoted? I explained what I meant, the author doesn't care about moral principles, he only cares about the negative feelings that he and his readers experience when they see victims of (violent) rape.

>>160147069
>How is a rape possibly defending your life?
If my doujins are anything to go by, a vampire might be trying to kill you, and since she's immortal, the only way to stop her is with the power of the D.

>>160147109
>the author doesn't care about moral principles, he only cares about the negative feelings that he and his readers experience when they see victims of (violent) rape.
Which come from breaking those moral principes.

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>>160137136
He doesn't even need the magical rape device. He's a muscular pretty boy with a fat cock and lots of power, women would be gushing over him even if he didn't do anything.

>>160137326
It goes beyond just betas. Every guy would be stoked if he could go on a consequence and guilt free rape spree.

>>160147059
>Thinkin "rape is bad" is caring about morals m8.
Not if you only think it's bad because you FELT that the cruelty of it was displeasing. He doesn't think that forcing a woman to have sex is immoral, he feels that being brutal and cruel to your sex slaves is disturbing.

>>160147069
>You do realize that its not the severity of the effect on the victim that makes a crime a crime but the willing violation of somebody else's rights by the attacker?
Yes, but you lose your rights the moment you try to violate someone else's rights, e.g. self-defense making a homicide not a murder.

>For example if you tried to rape somebody but she actually wanted the d, you are still committing an attempted rape.
Yes, thus someone who tried to murder you loses his rights and you are free to kill her to prevent harm to yourself now or in the future, this doesn't change after a moment and turns it into a violation of her rights if you kill her later.
>And if you kill somebody in self defense you do it to stop the attack on your life. How is a rape possibly defending your life?
You do not owe an attempted murderer back his rights after he denied yours. Don't forget that he doesn't have a large society that he can rely on for safety, he needs to eliminate all threats to his rights on his own, i.e. killing or (forcefully) "befriending" is perfectly defendable.

>>160147406
>Which come from breaking those moral principes.
Well, maybe they do, but certainly not consistent, universal moral principles. He has no issue with murder etc., he just felt pity for the broken rape slaves of the old goblins.

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A reminder that the only good isekai is the one with the robots

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Man, this rape discussion is fucking stupid. If you invade someone's home with the express purpose of genociding them, you don't get to complain when you get consequences for it. The women are happy enough despite being rape slaves, and the only alternative was murdering them. You fags call the rape "apologists" sociopaths and shit but when the two available choices are a painful death or rape slave into Stockholm Syndrome in a comfy village, which do you think is preferable? You stupid back and white morality types have the intellectual capacity of five year olds.

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Honestly I would like for this to become a crossover with Goblin Slayer and for the God's to nerf Rou. Goblins offer nothing of value to this world. They can't breed with their own women. Are cave dwelling monsters hated by all honest races.

Yeah humans and elves are dicks but at least they don't have no recourse but to steal literally everything from their neighbors.

All Rou did was organize a gang of monsters and if he ever stepped away they would revert back within a single generation. Goblin Slayer was right. Rou should have stayed in his fucking cave.

>>160148007
>If you invade someone's home with the express purpose of kidnapping and raping them to death, you don't get to complain when you get consequences for it.
Ironic much?

>>160148007
The thing I'm mad about is how it's portrayed as
>Totally not rape! Everyone is fine with it!
If it was rape, that's fine. He'd be a dick but that's fine. But it's not that.
You're saying you don't get to complain when you get the consequences for it, but there are absolutely no consequences for what he's doing. Why are there consequences for one but not the other? Because it's shitty isekai.

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>>160139133
>he can't stop time

>>160137497
sadly enough its still better written than Re:Monster

>>160148188
That's not irony. If gobs get splattered while trying to capture rape slaves then they have it coming, but hobgob doesn't do that since he took over as far as I remember. And he didn't even invade the elves for retribution when he'd be justified to do so.

>>160148237
Fair enough. I think the story would be better if they got Stockholm'd into liking their situation rather than being brainwashed into wanting the cock. But either way, I don't think hobgob is morally in the wrong here.

>>160137497
I remember dumping that shit on /a/ and caused a lot of butthurt.
Good times.

>>160148237
To me rape is a moral issue and I just don't see how it's immoral to befriend someone who tried to kill you with the double D of drugs and dick.

And what consequences should there be? It's a fucking shithole of a world and he actually offers them a pretty decent standard of living. Women in ancient times were able to get somewhat attached to men who literally raided their villages and murdered their fathers and brothers, but somehow this marty stu getting them to like it is unbelievable?

>>160139471
I don't see the problem with it. Someone attacks you, you attack them right back in self-defense.

>>160149083
thats not self-defense but revenge though

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>>160149083
How do you rape in self-defense?

>>160149083
These people think that once you have neutralized the aggressor, you need to either set them free or provide them with meals and everything else that's stated on the human right charta of the UN. The thought that setting your enemies free might lead to more enemies coming to attack you doesn't cross their mind.

Also, pay reparations to their descendants.

>>160149161
Eliminate the threat of future retaliation by making them addicted to the gob cock. Also, to the victor goes the spoils; any elves or humans that beat the gobs are welcome to rape slave the qt goblin chicks if they wanted.

>>160149161
Its exactly like punching back in self-defense, instead after you dodge their punch, you pull down their panties and slip it right in.

>>160137497
I remember this shit. It's cringeworthy as hell.

>>160140329
BASED NIPS

>>160137497
this looks as shitty as self-inserting isekai.

>>160149277
It is literally exactly the same. There is actually no difference.

I have a question. If humans are willing to accept other races into their armies and civilization, and the main character is now fully aware of this. Why isn't he just going to the humans and asking for an exchange. He pays for prostitutes to give birth to Future generations of goblins, and the Goblins agree to help the human armies Wipe Out the elves. The elves have literally done nothing to ingratiate themselves to the main character aside from paying them for services rendered. The main character has no reason not to make a good deal if it benefits the future of his race which is all he is interested in. Why are humans suddenly irredeemable in the setting? I haven't read the latest batch of chapters.

>>160137497
I really liked this.

I think its because I read it as hentai with better plot, where the people who hate it read it as manga with a shitty plot.

>>160149867
I think most humans see gobs as inherently evil monsters, so even if he somehow convinced them not to attack on site, negotiations would probably fail. Since gobs are famous for raping and murdering, who the fuck would want to be their breeding servant no matter how much you got paid? He'd need to lay the ground work with trade and diplomatic discussions to build trust and show that he was different from the average gob.

>>160145217
With such edge I would be unstoppable in battle.

>>160149973
>I think most humans see gobs as inherently evil monsters
They really aren't wrong

>fuck would want to be their breeding servant no matter how much you got paid
There are deviants in every race. We have people right now who fuck animals so I can imagine goblin fuckers being a niche appeal.

>He'd need to lay the ground work with trade and diplomatic discussions to build trust and show that he was different from the average gob.
Well that bridge is burned. Guess it's just odd for me to see a human jump into a monster body and go native so quickly but I forget the early chapters so maybe there was a good reason for him to forsake humans as quickly as he appears to.

>go check this out for fun goblin slayer rape fappin only to end up enjoying the characters and job leveling shit

>>160137422
Is this fanart? Looks better than the mango.

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>>160139929
All grobi scum must die

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Anime for 2018 will likely be announced with the upcoming vol 9.
How does that make you feel?

>>160153044
>this is getting adapted while much better LNs and WNs are ignored

Feels pretty bad, but I'll probably watch it anyways to see if the sex and action is any good.

>>160153044
>>160153885
I can't wait for the reactions of the normies and feminists.

>>160153044
>>160153885
>>160154169
It'll be censored to hell and back. What's the point?

Dropped this shit the second they began drugging up the women and saying it wasn't rape for some reason