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How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom

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>Since I'm a isekai hero, is there a demon lord?
What is it with demon Lord's? Can't you go to an isekai to defeat aliens or dragons or Chaos cults, something other than a Demon Lord for once?
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Demon lord is just a japanese version of Sauron and his contemporaries. Its the same in western fiction, if youre the chosen one you would assume that there is a another side that you oppose.

Dragons, Chaos cunts and aliens are the same thing except in different clothes
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Isn't it from Dragon Quest like virtually all fantasy tropes in Japan?
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>>160088574
They adapted Realist Hero into a manga? holy shit! picked the fuck up!
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>>160088815
That art though
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>>160088574
because japan is a faithless society. They are not interest in cults and idols of worship.
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>>160088839
Looks awful.
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>>160088839
>worse art than the LN
how could you fuck this up?
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>>160089586
Tell that to the Re:Zero witch cults.
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>>160088703
Changing clothes from time to time isn't a bad thing.
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>>160089625
>>160089667
Contrarian here, the manga art is much better than the fake Takeuchi artstyle
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>>160088574
>>160088703
Blame Dragon Quest. Besides they don't deal with those demons for a long time anyway (and not at all in what's been translated so far).

>>160088839
It's really good, especially the hand drawn backgrounds are an eye candy.
>>160089625
Like your mom. I bet you liked the novel's Fate/SameFace art better.
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I'm not inherently against harems or anything but I don't like it how he marries his bodyguard and plans to marry the idol girl. Author should have made his wives the two princesses only.

Also the idolshit is stupid in its entirety.
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>>160089586
Aren't they superstitious pagan Shintoists?
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>>160088839
What? It looks great.
>>160091491
OTP should be him and the adventurer girl.
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>>160091491
The idolshit is literally the plot of SDF Macross

>>160091278
The manga art literally looks like a H-doujinshi.
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>>160088574
As many people have said it's Dragon Quest's fault
You can always read Chinese/Korean isekai they don't have the same tropes.
In general I feel like Korea just has the highest overall quality of isekai.
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>>160091709
Chinese have their own terrible tropes.
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>>160091709
Fuck Chinese/Korean stuff, their names are literally impossible to remember.
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>>160091278
>>160091445
It looks like early Boruto, I'd take fake Takeuchi any day.
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>>160092712
Here, have a pity (You) for your effort.
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>>160091491
It tries to do a lot of things, making the plot a clusterfuck mess. The author is knowledgeable, but untalented.
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>>160093237
Well, running a kingdom has a lot of different aspects to it. It's more than just bread and circuses.
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>>160091709
I do like gookshit better than most nip or chinkshit but they have their own tired tropes they cling to.
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>>160088574
does the MC have a painfully generic personality in this one too?
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>>160091612
No, they're larping.
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>>160092712
>It looks like early Boruto

You better get your eye cancer checked. It's doujin hentai material but it looks nothing like Boruto. Still far better than fake Takeuchi.
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>>160093592
It seems like the most common gook tropes are RPG mechanics and being isekai'd into some sort of dungeon/challenge world like SAO SAO isn't an isekai it's just the most relatable setting.
But all of those series I've read so far have been okay to really good.
Even the worst autistic dumpsterfire gook series was at least extremely unique in setting and character. There's just a massive sperg supporting character that won't shut the fuck up.
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The king should have offered his sexy queen instead

>>160088839
Looks great
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>>160088574
Most isekai stories start off as web novels written by amateurs who lift 90% of their setting and premise from dragon quest (Because it's an extremely iconic and well loved fantasy game thats pretty much the standard for fantasy over there) with cute animal girls, slaves, and some random gimmick thrown in and are essentially all just copying each other at this point.
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>>160088574
The witches cult is basically Chaos.
See why Re:Zero is popular now?
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>>160094568
While not technically an isekai really, Sao acted as the gateway for it. "Trapped in a game/the game is real" led to just using a game-like world with rpg mechanics.
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>>160094783
The popular ones all try to innovate, like Goblin Slayer, Re:Zero etc.
Very few people actually read the generic trash
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>>160094904
MMO stories have been a thing for a really long time in gookland (as early as 2000 so pre SAO even) it figures they would put RPG mechanics in their isekai.
I'm actually only seen one gook story without RPG mechanics out of the 16 I've read.
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>>160094904
Funny how the king of the genre Mushoku Tensei doesn't have any RPG mechanics or game elements at all.
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>>160094933
Goblin Slayer is not isekai. It doesn't even have a Japanese character.
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>>160097528
>Funny how the king of the genre Mushoku Tensei
>the king of the genre
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>>160098547
On narou at least it's the king of the genre.
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>>160098722
>meanwhile shieldbro and otherworld dinning hall swapped places
I have a feeling so complicated
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Oh there's a manga?

I don't think I'd be able to read this shit if in LN form. The Japan stronk shit is pretty bad, but at least its nowhere near GATEs level.
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>>160088574
I would like a sci-fi isekai
Or at the very least a fantasy isekai where the MC is more into sci-fi than fantasy so he decides to say 'fuck this fairy shit, let's get some steampunk, warforged and Magiscience going. I'll MAKE this shit sci-fi'
Then we'd get knights and wizards vs Aliens and it would dope as fuck and you know it.
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Anime adaptation of the first three volume when?
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>>160088574
Fuck Chaos. Tomb Kings are best
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>>160091709
I've read several Korean lns were the final boss was himself.
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>>160091709

Like copious amounts of NTR and Jade Palace shittery?
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>Prime minister is called Marx
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>160101598
So he's going to wish for a giant space thing to destroy the planet and then become a giant clown monster?
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>>160100351
The Empire endures, heretic
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>>160088574
Is that the one where MC makes an idol squad to patrol the kingdom?
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>>160088703
I would love a change of clothes. Wearing the same clothes all the time makes the fabric thin and faded, and if you never wash then they're all crusty and smelly. A change of clothes is necessary.
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>>160103251
Patrol? If you mean spread propaganda, then yes.
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>>160103251
It's the one where some european barbarians discover the wonders of japanese cuisine and culture
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>>160098147
The MC looks and is as autistic as shiro.
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>>160088574
there's many isekai where the mc doesn't have to fight femon lords. they might even become one actually
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>>160103251
It's the one where the centuries old elves know nothing of proper horticulture and have to be explained to that Nature gives no fucks about who you are by a random japanese dude.
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>>160104603
Also where the kingdom was in the verge of running into a food crisis for focusing on cashcrops?
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>>160104873
Let's be fair, lots of idiots did that in our history too including the first european settlers of the united states of america that thought they'd be able to just use the cash crops to buy their food.

This case was a little different in that they had to use the cash crops to pay an unreasonable tax to their united nations or get bombed with notAmerican Freedom which would have killed off way more people.
I'm a little surprised that didn't spark a refugee crisis which would have been a great revenge and alleviated the food problems a bit. I guess the lack of communication probably stopped that?
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>>160105042
How did they solve that anyway?
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>>160105561
Eating absolutely everything. The fat guy basically knew of every bullshit meal people knew in the kingdom (which is why he's so fat) then the MC and princess/etc ate the weird meals presented (on live "TV") while talking about how it was totally tasty to prove to the people that it was actually edible.
Of course if the food shortage was as bad as it's supposed to be then people should have discovered that squid are edible before and actually feeding that many people would cause an long term ecological disaster.
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>>160091612
Sort of. Imagine a country full of atheists who go to a temple once or twice a year to pray and /or wear amulets for good luck. When there is no religion, people gravitate to mysticism.
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>>160088574
Artstyle looks awful similar to this
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>>160105870
They had enough food for everyone but they didnt want to eat it because it was gross? were they actually tasty? and what's thiss aboutan ecological disaster?
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>>160091709
Id - Greatest Fusion Fantasy or whatever it is called is still the best isekai to me.

Shame the magazine that published it went under.
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>>160088574
/tg/ does it better
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Stranded_in_fantasy
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>>160106118
Not because it's gross. because they didn't realize it was edible (and they thought it was gross so they never thought to eat it except in certain regions)
Eg One area eats lobster but the rest don't because they never thought of eating it before so they demonstrated eating lobster so now places with lobster as well started eating it.
When I say everything i mean pretend they're a plague of locusts.

When i was talking about ecological disaster I wasn't saying anything technically in the book but merely what should have been a consequence of that strategy if they really were starving that much.A massive starving human population devouring everything would make the population levels of whatever they eat go down. This would wreak havok on the food chain for a starter. RL examples of hungry humans eating alot of X meal are part of why several species have become extinct in our world so it would not be surprising if several species went extinct or endangered as a direct result which would make the next link go down and start a cascade effect. This is not limited to animals since they were eating even the grass. We like to think that nature is resilient but it takes time for it to recover from something like that.
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>>160106118
Actually, it's not that far-fetched.
In Russia potatoes used to have a really bad rep due to the initial incorrect consumption method: people tried to eat potato fruit initially and it was poisonous.
It took a lot of effort to establish potatoes as something eatable.
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>>160106196
Id was around before isekai though.

Id is really about a cute trap.
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What about a series where the protagonist is so enthralled by the idea of getting to save the world and fight against a demon king that he assumes must exist because of isekai memes, so he conquers the world in order to prepare for when the demon king finally shows himself only to wind up becoming the demon king along the way in his quest to gain more power
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>>160088574
their folklore is limited to demon lord and dragon quest
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when is isekai shit gonna be banned
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>>160093510
Hey, I still like the series. Not hard feelings here.
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>>160100024
>An Isekai where the MC is genre saavy and sent to the genre opposite he likes/familiar with
I feel like this had to have been done already.
Isekai isn't THAT creatively bankrupt is it?
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>>160110115
>Isekai isn't THAT creatively bankrupt is it
You tell me. Oh and he still manages to "level up" and gain skills despite being a fucking hot spring.
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>>160109527
what if there was an isekai where the MC was summoned by the demon king to be his right hand man?
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>>160111193
There have been isekai where after beating the demon king they get summon by the demons to save them from the humans.
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>>160091491
look man
if he marries everyone then nobody can complain that the worst girl won
now everybody wins!
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>>160092700
>It was actually Yan-Chung Ugh all along!
uh who?
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>>160112324
you know, the brother of nip-nong ching-chong anon
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>>160088574
Why is the main character so obsessed with Machiavelli's The Prince? Should he really be taking a book written by a butthurt ruined noble as the be-all-end-all of politicking?
And then there's the Sun Tzu all over the place. It's almost as if another world has a military history all of its own, and has come to its own conclusions about all of the same topics.
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How about clowny mahou shoujo villains as the opposing force in the other world?
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For those who care, the spear hero spinoff from shieldbro is resuming translations again. Lion's doing it but it's not a regular schedule.
Remember to say thank you.
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>>160113720
I didn't even know there was a spin-off. How is it?
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Figured I'd drop this here.
For those who have been following these: Commushou volume 4 illustrations added.

We shota no more.

https://a.vidga.me/zaschm.zip

Basically every illustration except this one is lewd this time.
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>>160113829
in the verge of death, motoyasu travels back in time to the moment he got summoned to reunite with his bird waifu. it explores a lot of what ifs and ridiculous situations
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>>160114021
>Commushou
is this the isekai where the protag sucks tiddies for extra skill points?
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>>160111193
>http://www.novelupdates.com/series/yuusha-party-no-kawaii-ko-ga-ita-no-de-kokuhaku-shite/
>Youki died in a traffic accident and was reborn in a fantasy world! However, instead of being the hero of legends, he ended up reincarnating into an overpowered demon. Having no desires to become the Demon Lord, he sits around in the Demon Lord’s castle as a random low rank guardian.

That's the closest I know, but the story its so damn boring. Like, they spent several chapters giving love advice to one of the members of the hero's party who talks like he's inhaled helium.
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>>160115435
Yeah.
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>>160115435
>protag sucks tiddies for extra skill points
light novels were a mistake
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>>160115757
You never saw Seikon no Qwaser huh?
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>>160115795
the problem isn't
>the protag sucks tiddies
the problem is
>for skill points
fucking gaming system bullshit
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>>160088574

>tfw have a fantasy of going back to ancient times and prevent the fall of rome with modern knowledge
>tfw would probably just end enslaved and displayed as a curiosity instead
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>>160115927
>ywn be reborn as a cute girl in roman times
>and become a sex slave to some nobles
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>>160116044

Sex slaves didn't exist, your slaves were your property and you could do anything to them

So think more like fucking your maid
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>>160116090
stop bringing reality to my fetishes
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Reminder that there's a light novel where Julius Caesar is a cute girl.
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>>160115927
Earn your freedom by winning the affection of your master through simple engineering inventions like a pulley system, better saddle, a halberd, longbows, gunpowder, herbal medicine, and so on.

Rome is not like Africa today.

There are many slaves on Rome who managed to win their freedom. Some colleseum gladiators even became renowned athletes. They do fear women rising into power though. Such is why they hated Cleopatra

Once you became a free man, earn the respect of your people by becoming a merchant who specializes on the harvest of expensive spices which you cultivated through advanced agricultural knowledge. Romans never knew that dumping feces on the soil would increase the production of crops yo
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>>160116138
does she still get stabbed a dozen times?
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>>160116138
I'd stab her in the back if you know what I mean.

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS
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>>160088574
>Chaos cults
FOR THE EMPRAH
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>>160116044
Female sex slaves are looked down upon on Rome.
Pretty boys on the otherhand....
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>>160116138
name?
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>>160116182

>>160116182

>BARBARBAR
>This slave sounds like a barbarian and won't shut up
>Cut off his tongue, if he keeps bothering me crucify him

>Also what's wih this useless device when I can just throw more slaves at it, this inferior saddle to our horned saddle, this weapon that is inefecctive against shields
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>>160116138
And it's published by fucking Overlap.
Welcome to locked illustration resolution of 1200px on their digital releases.
Even if I knew moon, and that shit was actually good, I wouldn't buy it.
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>>160116288
Would they be able to appreciate the amazingness of the stirrup?
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>>160116288
>implying you won't eventually be able to speak the language
>implying romans would just kill slaves like that for no reason
>implying romans weren't perfectly willing to use knowledge regardless of where it came from

you realize the romans loved getting knowledgeable slaves right? They even used slaves to teach their children.
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>>160116455

Who knows, some think they knew about it as early as julius caesar from the scythians but simply ignored it

and so did basically every horse based society of antiquity for that matter
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>>160115445
The characters are decent and I like how the MC has to work to get the girl he likes to like him back but it's unfortunate it feels aimless and, like you said, boring.
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>>160116247
ユリア・カエサルの決断
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>>160116477
Slavery was a streamlined citizenship process.
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>>160116288
You can't just a kill a slave in Rome. You can harm him all you want but killing him is not legal
(dominica potestas is not the same as dominium)

Also, Rome have poor saddles that is why they still use chariots and halberds specializes on hooking on shields and taking it away.

Be sure on what trade your master have. If he is a politician, you can win his appeasement by being knowledgable about history and predicting all the upcoming invasions.

if he is a man of trade, great job. You can protect him from mechant swindlers and improve his trade through marketting strategy

If he is a man of war, and you are a foot soldier, ALWAYS volunteer for scout missions. Romans look down upon scouts because they think it's very humiliating mission. But this is just so crucial that Hannibal took advantage of this and slaughtered about 30,000 Romans who travelled through a foggy forest without sending scouts first
LMAO
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>>160116575
>ユリア・カエサルの決断
thanks
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>>160116288
with some time and effort, some knowledge from woodworking class, and someone from that world to help me cast the bronze trigger assembly, I could probably hack together a reasonable impression of a Han Chinese crossbow from memory. I'm sure they'd appreciate a man-portable armor-piercing bow that anyone can learn to use in a day.
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>Heard about a FFXIV manga
>Check it out
>It's a """happy""" go lucky Isekai
>Already licensed by CR
http://www.crunchyroll.com/comics/manga/final-fantasy-lost-stranger/volumes
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>>160116620
man that's sad
ff14 is a shitty mmo but the main story could work well enough as a manga
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>>160116612

romans already had crossbows, they recently found the metal part that held together the manuballista in germany

In fact greeks already had crossbows centuries earlier

Ranged weaponry wasn't very common in antiquity because european ancient armies were big into heavy infantry
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Might as well ask, I'm reading Lazy dungeon master and Magi Craft Meister, and I like the concept of dungeon building and crafting shit, but alas, these aren't as good as I hoped them to be, don't get me wrong I enjoy reading them very much, but I still long for a more "serious" one focusing on dungeon building or crafting. so, anything similar to those?
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>>160113829
Turns out he was 100% right about not having to care if he dies since he'd just come back from the save point. Has to deal with stupid bullshit and horrifies everyone via telling the 100% truth about Naofumi's actions all the time with a straight face.
Raphtalia dies at least once per chapter.
>>160112701
The average person doesn't realize that the Prince has a 99.99999% chance of being satire/mockery and the isekai inhabitants are usually treated as being stupid in the genre.
I mean, the book taken straight single handedly led to the bad reputation of Italians as honourless goombas that they have centuries later to this day. Literally every bad stereotype about italians known around the world (other than the gestapo and Mussolini) stems from that one book and I have no idea on if the guy read the book.
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>>160117081
People seem to like Only Sense Online for some reason. I tried and disliked it quite a bit since it's from yet another author who didn't bother doing some proper preparation.
That one isn't other world stuff, though, but they're simply playing a MMO.
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>>160117074
Yes and for good reason. Those are some poor design.
Invent a tougher crossbow with a lever system, penetrate a shield all the way through the Lorica segmentata, and watch the commanders change their strategy
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>>160117203
OSO is about turning the comfy factor up to max, friend. There is no need for planning.
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>>160117209

Are you dumb, torsion designs are many times stronger than tension ones, they are also a lot more conplocated which is why the ballista disappeared after the fall of the empire
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>>160112701
>>160117160
>the prince is satire
Ah yes, this famous book that is still mandatory reading on any college course about politics or history is totally bullshit, just like how sun tzu is totally obvious shit and has no reason to be respected at all
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>>160117262
It's not really about planning, but about some of the things at the beginning.
What I dislike about it is that MC is the only one who suddenly came up with some simple shitty crafting ideas and suddenly the only one who's actually utilizing the bow properly etc.
That was the main reason I didn't continue reading.
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>>160117203
is essentially a cute girl playing a cute mmo.
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>>160117273
The European crossbow is the Gastraphetes.
The ballista is a siege weapon, not an infantry weapon.

Look at this belly bow and tell me how it is supperior from the level design
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>>160117344
cute girl (male)
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>>160117351

The arcuballista found in xanten is a torsion handheld weapon, it was much more complicated than contenporary or medieval crossbows

Earlier roman crossbows appear as early as the roman conquest of gaul with reliefs depicting soldiers mounted hunting with crossbows similar to medieval ones
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>>160117310
It's still a good book. It was also just a massive amount of mockery while it gave you insight into how corrupt politics worked back then. Do you not realize at all how absolutely negative the attention that it gave to italy the instant it was translated was? It would be like a place with a functioning democracy receiving a manifesto on the Trump Regime out of nowhere and making it sound like that's business as usual in america.
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>>160117475
Of course they did. Rome knows about China and it's only natural that they would learn about the crossbow.
The point is that Rome's most powerful crossbow designs are meant to be used for sieges or mounted on defenses. A knowledge about medieval conventional crossbows would change everything
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>>160117262
"Comfy" in my experience is something people use to excuse that nothing fucking happens.
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>>160117160
didn't you mean to quote my post too? also You mean every chapter after she's introduced, or didn't you mean once per arc? If she does die every chapter we might need to ask the TLers to install a raphtalia death counter.
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>>160119101
Lots of stuff happens in OSO. It's just not the usual "maxing my numbers so I'm uber-leet and pwn the bad guys and get all the hot bitches" isekai stuff. Instead it's "exploring the crafting sub-systems and building player housing and occasionally pugging a dungeon with your friends" stuff.

Much lower stakes, much more casual attitude, much less wish fulfillment. Some people like that, other people are the target audience for your bog standard isekai and can't stand it.
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>>160119246
I thought it was every reset/chapter even if it's offscreen. I'm probably wrong since I'm just remembering what i was told. What you said drastically lowers the amount of deaths and is not as fun.
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>>160119101
It's an episodic series about playing a guy who plays as a crafter in an MMO. There isn't really a huge overarching plot so much as small adventures each volume.
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>>160119346
Should install a death counter nonetheless
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I don't have any particular opposition to the whole 'transported to another world' device to set up a story's plot but I think it's a real shame that /a/ basically has a general dedicated to it while anything more imaginative gets completely ignored.
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>>160119381
Eg That meteor spam he likes always happens when she decided that in the middle of it would be the perfect place to be.
I wonder how much fucking XP he must have been getting from constantly killing a god?
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>>160119480
I wonder if that's how he rises up to the high hundreds? Raphtalia is outside and beyond the world's system but she has to play by the rules if she wants to do anything or borrow power. so she might be high-leveled but not enough to avoid getting crushed by a meteor.
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>>160119464
I see where you're coming from, anon. I think it's because this is the crowd of /a/nons who read WNs and most of those tend to be isekai.
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>>160119599
Nah. She dies because she min/maxed herself to have 0 defense since Naofumi is taking all of the damage. Hence when she goes to where Motoyatsu is she could trip over a banana peel he tosses and die. That's part of how he racks up so many kills.
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>>160119716
OH right, i forgot she has absolutely no defense and has has to rely on naofumi's skills (like defense link) to keep her safe.
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>>160119716
fucking minmaxers I swear
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>>160119716
>>160119907
kinda hoping rifana gets to NTR raphtalia. i wonder in what arc does she appear, hopefully/unhopefully the last one.
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>>160119907
>not min-maxing with a joke stat and seeing where it takes you
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>>160120040
>not having 10 on everything else just in case
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There needs to be more dragon girls in isekai.
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>>160091612
only because they're too good at taking care of old buildings and have to do something with all the shrines they have lying around
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>>160120095
there need to be more dragon girls period
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Any anon have a idea to continue this list?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sUp23h-S2hG1Z1Ot-d9NxlGZKoV-4ndUc_fSKLMCb8k/edit#gid=0
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>>160120021
In the Spear Hero story? I remember hearing she showed up and that she's a total bullshit character, basically combining the strengths of Atlas, Firo, and Raphtalia all in one character.
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>>160088574
>expecting originality from an isekai manga

What's wrong with you anon
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>>160088574
Piccolo was a demon king, and he was an alien
Daimao is just what the most evil motherfucker on the planet goes by
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>>160120095
>>160120264

Or at least translations of what there is.
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>>160120264
I wouldn't mind more girls in armor as well.
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>>160121199
Girls in armour are nice.
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>>160120704
That's how she's described yes.
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>>160115927
>tfw have a fantasy of going back to ancient times and prevent the fall of rome with modern knowledge

There's already a book about that: Lest Darkness Fall, by L. Sprauge de Camp.
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>>160120386
So what's going on in "test"?
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>>160123008
Testing if can make a graphic of "Occupation", "Reincarnated" and "Summoned", but i don't remember how to use excel,
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To the people arguing about crossbows: They require state manufactures to produce for the army which only existed barely in the late Roman period as well as the Han Chinese in sufficient numbers. They are pretty complicated pieces of equipment and prone to break if not well taken care of and brutally effective. They saw infrequent use by mercenary companies, especially in Italy but they were pretty expensive compared to a bow. They could have functioned as a rudimentary shot and pike combo if they existed as a mainstay in the army long enough to get unit tactics built around it.
>Have front line infantry move forward
>Hunker down with their shield
>Fire by rank crossbows behind them
Horsefuckers would have gotten destroyed.
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>>160120386
Here's an idea: have it managed by somebody who isn't an ESL.
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>>160122755
>Padway initially wonders if he is dreaming or delusional, but he quickly accepts his fate and sets out to survive. His first idea is to make a copper still and sell brandy for a living. He convinces a banker, Thomasus the Syrian, to lend him seed money to start his endeavor. He teaches his clerks Arabic numerals and double entry bookkeeping. Padway eventually develops a printing press, issues newspapers, and builds a crude semaphore telegraph system utilizing small telescopes. However, his attempts to reproduce mechanical clocks, gunpowder, and cannons are failures. He becomes increasingly involved in the politics of the state as Italy is invaded by the Imperials and also threatened from the south and east.
>Padway rescues the recently deposed Thiudahad and becomes his quaestor. He uses the king's support to gather forces to defeat the formidable Imperial general Belisarius. Padway manages to surprise Belisarius with tactics never used in the ancient world. Then, deceiving the Dalmatian army, Padway reinstates the senile Thiudahad and imprisons King Wittigis as a hostage. In 537, when Wittigis is killed and Thiudahad descends into madness, Padway has a protégé of his (Urias) married off to Mathaswentha, then crowned king of the Ostrogoths. He also tricks Justinian I into releasing Belisarius from his oath of allegiance, and quickly enlists the military genius to command an army against the Franks.
Just like my chinese children literature! Or is it the other way around?
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>>160123220
>Or is it the other way around?

Pretty much. Japan loves its classic science fiction. That's why you get random things like the villain in Psycho Pass going on a digression about his favorite author, or General Boskone in Berserk who's named after the space pirates from Lensman.

Heck, go look up The Incomplete Enchanter (also by L. Sprague de Camp) for the first example of "MC travels to realities that exist as stories in his own world and abuses his meta-knowledge for his own benefit" in action. It's a clear grandparent to all the "I reincarnated as an otome game villainess" stories.
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>>160114021
Thanks, I enjoy these.
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>>160123183
Actually, it's more like
>They require state manufactures to MASS produce
Yes they are expensive but since slaves are allowed to have properties, I see no problem as to why one cannot craft one using his own wood and steel

You only need to produce a prototype and prove its effectiveness.

It does even have to be a crossbow. There are lots of more powerful arsenal one can construct like the flail, braced spears, caltrops, and of course the chain mail. Even a knowkedge about barb wires and punji traps would bring wonders to acient Rome
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>>160120095
>>160120264
Dragon girls deserve head pats too.
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>>160124052
Who is this qt?
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>>160124164
Lobivia from Monster no Goshujin-sama.
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>>160106732
To be fair lobsters basically went through the same thing here. I'm forgetting the specifics but aren't lobsters essentially sea-roaches. That's why no one ate them and they were used to feed poor people and prisoners, at least in burgerland. Then people figured out it was good, it gained popularity, which grew demand for it and scarcity, causing it to become a delicacy, and people forgot the whole sea-roach connection which is why people are surprised to learn about it nowadays.
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>>160124288
Well ain't she a beaut. Shame translations never.
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>>160124416
Some parts right and some parts wrong. It was sold to landlubbers that didn't know they were sea roaches and got considered fancy.

The thing here is that none of those populations were literally starving to death because the only crops were inedible. If the alternative was starting to death you can be damn sure everyone would have eaten some fucking lobster earlier.
This wasn't an "Oh we're on some rations and live on what we have stored" situation. This was the entire country is out of food, we've eaten everything we know is edible, and we're one step from cannibalism due to famine situation.
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>>160100346
Sento has been doing meth?
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>>160124605
I'm sure the translations will get to her within 10 years or so at the current rate.
You're probably better off waiting for the manga that's in the works, assuming it doesn't get axed like many others.
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>>160124052
Hey, that's not the MC.
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>>160089667
You realize a light novel artist has months to draw like 9 monochrome images and 5 color ones, right?
Compared to manga artist needing 30+ for monochrome and several color a month.
Or do you seriously expect every manga to have better art than its light novel counterpart?

I don't think the manga art is bad, even.
Artist looks like he has some experience drawing porn without even looking up the name, but aside from 'it looks different than the light novel art,' I don't really see any major issues with it.
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>>160123183
The Chinese were mass producing crossbows as early as the Warring States, long before the Han.
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>>160126054
I remember reading someone's comment somewhere else that the artist reminds them of the hentai artist Kihiru due to the style.
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>>160116138
does it detail her campaign in gaul? i would read the fuck out of that
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>>160092587
Like falling into terrible danger like a cliff or something but somehow an ancient martial arts book somehow fell into that exact same cliff years ago and the MC learns it and come back stronger than ever?
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>>160116138
>modern bras
>bras at all despite being ancient rome

I'm already angry
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>>160126521
Then how does >>160116371 make you feel, since it's basically her just wearing an exotic school uniform?
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>>160126498
Are you talking about the series where the MC is isekai'd and tries to stay low-key and do nothing because he thinks his younger brother is the MC, but his younger brother had time travelled backwards and was trying to screw everything up for his older brother because he knew his older brother was the MC.
It's a parody by the way
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>>160120704
That's quite op acually, mary-sue tier even. Though you cant call her a mary sue if she falls victim to one of the most deadly diseases known to man. common cold
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Weeding through shitty isekai's has become my fucking hobby, like gardening
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>>160127234
Are you me?
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>>160127269
That's likely.
I've begun to like reading the shitty isekai's the same way a gardener likes pulling out weeds
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>>160088839
DROPPED
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>>160091612
it's more like an obligation to preserve their culture at this point.
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>>160127269
>>160127307
Do you guys feel terrible pain every time a terrible ln/wn does something extremely predictable.
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>>160127386
Depends on what it is
I pretty much drop anything the instant I see "adventurer's guild" nowadays because you know everything involving it is going to be filler.
"I'm going to write 10 chapters about how the MC went on a quest to kill 20 goblins for the adventurer's guild" well fuck you too author.
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>>160121382
Reminder that part 3 of the laziest man in the world never ever.
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>>160113720
It's been a long time since the original threads, where should I start reading and is the chapter start actually 410?
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>>160088839
>American-style hamburger in isekai
D R O P P E D
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>>160127611
BT says 410 yeah. Kinda wish the sidestories were TL'd too. maybe we'll get them in LN form later.
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>>160127386
It's more of a despondent feeling.
Like the other anon said, there are a few things where'll I'll just outright drop it unless it comes off as being done really well.
Like the protagonist suddenly waking up to being 'held by giants' and not understand he's a baby for like 20 minutes. That'll make me drop something real fast.

A lot of Isekai like doing "slow life" shit AKA the author has nothing to write about so they hope the story develops itself as they go.
Otherwise in reincarnation stories it'd just skip the pointless childhood (rarely is there meaning in them), and in teleported stories there'd be actual fucking story within the first 5 chapters that isn't the protagonist somehow ending up at the bottom of a super hard dungeon.
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>>160127470
>I'm going to write 10 chapters about how the MC went on a quest to kill 20 goblins for the adventurer's guild
Literally Goblin Slayer
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>>160127386
at this point everything bad is to be expected, i just end up making note of the things that are done well
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Just finished reading this. Quite enjoyable read. The fact that author is a fa/tg/uy help.

Also, Blood best boy
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>>160127679
>Otherwise in reincarnation stories it'd just skip the pointless childhood (rarely is there meaning in them)
You know, I was in the /m/ thread for the Knights and Magic anime the other day, and I was surprised to see that people were complaining that the arc covering the protag's early childhood had been rushed. Apparently the original story devoted a full volume to it?
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>>160127652
I literally only want to pick it up for the hamburger and hamburger guy. I wanna know more about him. I cannot give a fuck about anything in the manga except the mystery surrounding this burger. Not the fgirls, the MC, or the lore. Just Burger-kun in isekai
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>>160129741
>Just Burger-kun
there is only one Burger-kun.
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>>160129254
Paladin is a work that demonstrates how it really helps with constructing a fleshed out world when an author is actually well-read and puts effort into research. As much as people complain about Kamachi Kazuma's writing, randomly packing everything with myths and legends and SCIENCE that he researched definitely adds more depth to the writing. Compare that to the average amateur narou writer who can't write anything beyond teenagers fighting slimes in a DQ medieval fantasy because they have no other frames of reference for what an action adventure should be like.
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>>160129876
But who is the burger-chan?
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>>160130084
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>>160130683
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>>160088574

now we got politicians into isekai? what next? loli vampire ? onsens?
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>>160130683
>>160131016
After seeing it so many times, I was hoping it would be from something
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>>160131455
>what next?

Trucks. MC runs over people to send them into another world. Alternatively, he runs them over to reincarnate them as trucks, thus creating an exponential number of trucks until it turns into that movie where sentient trucks are out to get everyone.

I'm sure this already exists but let me have this joke.
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>>160131455
Swords.
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>>160131455
Janitors, actual magicians from Earth, gyarus. The list just goes on.
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>>160132483
>actual magicians from Earth
What's the point then?
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>>160133070
Earth has superior magic so the MC gets to educate the savages with their shit magic and easily dumpster all his enemies plus the series.
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>>160133070
IIRC Earth's magic is far more advanced than the place he gets summoned to so he curbstomps everything.
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>>160129254
Yeah, I was surprised. Seeing as many isekai offer everything to the MC on a silver platter, it was nice seeing him have to work for it.
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>>160133118
>>160133119
So being better at science than the magic world isn't good enough for us anymore? We have to make ourselves to be better at magic than the magic world too? What's the point of creating a magical world of fictional systems an then going "lol actually we are already better at all that", what could that new world possibly have to offer then?

>>160133695
I like how he compared NEETs to undead
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>>160127386
I feel terrible pain whenever terrible isekai have some decent ideas but terrible writings nonetheless because of lack of talent.
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>>160135417
>whenever terrible isekai have some decent ideas
Examples?
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>>160132483
>gyarus
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