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The state of the shonen genre

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Lets be honest we all know that boku no hero is overrated, only decent shonens that are running are still one piece,hxh and maybe ippo. Once those are gone what is left? seriously look at what will be left. Generic rubbish. Guess they dont make mangaka like they used to.
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>>160054117

Honestly i agree with you lol.
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>shonen ""genre""
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If you are over 15 you should not give a single fuck about shonen
Only excuse for DB fags is nostalgia
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>>160054252
Alright then what do you read?
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>>160054274
Why does that matter, so you can personally attack me instead of engaging with my opinion

How about no
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>>160054117
I agree as well. We need truly great manga like Naruto and Bleach to come back!
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>>160054305
NO so i can grow a list of mature manga to read
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>>160054330
Na those are trash, im talking about classics like yu yu hakusho, fist of the north star, slam drunk or shamman king etc etc
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>>160054305
>attack a whole demographic of manga
>asked for his taste
>D-D-D-D-D DON'T HURT ME!
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>>160054332
I dont read "mature" manga nor did I ever call shonen immature
Try again
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>>160054397
>attack
Look at this faggot and his hurt feelings.
Shut the fuck up babby
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>>160054117
I like NnT
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>>160054445
I forgot that was running, its decent but it seems like its ending soon anyway
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>>160054117
>HxH
>Decent
Fuck of it's overrated and one of the worst shounen that's pretentious.
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>>160054117
BnHA is great, HxH is too inconsistent to be interesting, we also have One Piece which is getting better again, Dr. Stone and Promissed Neverland which are fun to read.

Most importantly, you're probably expecting too much from a shounen adventure manga. When you grow a bit up, your interests start to shift to things different from the usual shounen adventure themes. Go read some seinen, go read a book or watch a movie. It's not the shounen manga that's getting worse, it's you getting older.
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>>160054621
Jokes on you bokutards are nothing more than Narutard 2.0
There is no arguing with them when they know their anime is shit.
Huntards like you on other hand pretend their anime as a saviour of shounen and get triggered everywhere, when their beloved anime is no worse than rip off its contemporaries.
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The genre has gone to pot, look at the title pic and then look at the ones running.....LOL>>160054760

No one calls it the saviour of shonen, people just call it decent since the rest is rubbish decent looks amazing
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>>160054117
We have snk
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>>160054117

>One Piece after the time skip
>Decent

The series started to repeat tropes and the writing became shit.
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I prefer Shonen over Moe or fucking slice of life any day literally cringe.
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>>160054862

True, no doubt but it just proves that shonen is dying.
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Hunter x Hunter is not a shonen, anymore
O MY CHAPTER WHEN
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>>160054811
It's not even decent compared to DBZ. HXH tries too hard to pretend to be something which it is not when in fact feels like a plot written by a edgy Alzheimer teen.
I would have even considered it decent if it were just limiting to one theme.
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>>160054862
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>>160055008
dbz... im guessing your around 16 and going through the imverysmart stage, call it dragonball we're speaking about manga here spastic
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>>160054972

The problem is, there's not a shonen hero capable of carrying the mantle that Goku,Kenshin,Yusuke,Yugi, that guy from SD,Luffy,Naruto and Ichigo (for a while).

They only one that could've done it was All Might but sadly he wasn't the protagonist and Deku too much of a chicken to be memorable because, even if you don't like it, BNHA had one of the best introduction chapters and de-constructed some tropes of the shonen genre until AM's retirement.
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>>160055197

>Shitting on DBZ

Confirmed for not reading the manga.

The series was ahead of its time on almost everything.
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>>160055255
You're a fucking retard, read what i said autistic spastic
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>>160055205
Deconstructions..... Boku no fags acting like hxh fags with their pretentious bullshit. Even when there is none there, that shit is just naruto 2.0
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>>160054117
>shounen is dying
edgy
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>>160054407
>If you are over 15 you should not give a single fuck about shonen
>I dont read "mature" manga nor did I ever call shonen immature

I don't even read shonen, I just came to tell you that you are a piece of shit
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>>160055531
Most accurate shit posted on this shit board
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>>160055308
nigger
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>>160054117
A battle Shonen about space cops.
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>>160054117
Neverland may be the best shonen right now
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>>160054117
>HxH
>decent

I'll give you Ippo.

>Once those are gone what is left?
Something that hasn't been running for 20 years, maybe something new. Those three don't seem to be ending soon anyways.
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>>160054117
What about one punch man? I know it's the most normie anime but it's still really good, and it's ashame snk's newest chapters are fucking retarded, I wish it would end
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>>160058827
>normie
Fuck off and kill yourself, newfag cancer.
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>>160057725
>Neverland may be the best shonen right now
why?
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>>160054117
Shounen is not a genre, retard.
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>>160054117
You almost tricked me into rising to the bait

Shonen is a demographic, not a genre, the demographic remains the most successful in manga, there is no problem

If you have a problem with a specific genre stagnating, make a new thread and try again but shonen can be anything and there's lots of great stuff
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>>160059873
Don't cut yourself on that edge bro. I've been here longer than you
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bnh is shit for too many reasons to just name them all, but the school setting and horrible world building really fucked them over.
One piece has been shit for like 4 years straight now, same with ippo.

black clover looks to be the next thing i just hope it's good. Apparently it has the scene for scene same set up as naruto, but so long as the execution is better i don't mind. It's also not literally baby shit like bnh, figures crossed it turns out to be good.
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>wan piss
>decent
pick one
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>>160054117
It's not really dying, I mean attack on titan is like the most popular thing ever, but it runs in a more obscure shounen magazine with a much older audience and a lot more females so i'm guessing it doesn't count and you're talking shounen jump.
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Just want an anime with good fights for once. No end of the world bullshit. No throwing random energy blasts at each other. No teleporting behind your back.

Make the story trash for all I care.
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>>160060959
This, I want well written and choreographed action scenes, but blasting beams and teleporting can be used to make said fight scenes so i'm find with that.
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>>160054117
>one piece,hxh

Opinion discarded.
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Boku no Hero is okay / borderline good but overhyped.
OP till the timeskip was amazing but took a huge nosedive.
Clover and everything else is pure shit.
I can't say much about HxH because i am in the Chimera arc right now but i think it's overhyped and has some obvious flaws. HxH is still good though, just not as amazing as everyone makes it out to be.
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>>160054117
>How to spot a fedora wearing tryhard
>he thinks shonen is a genre
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My god, this thread is literally trolls trolling trolls
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>>160054252
>moeblob, yuri, SoL watching faggot thinks his opinions hold weight
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>>160054117
Nanatsu no Taizai.
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>>160063441
>cliche the animation
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>>160058827
>one punch man
OPM is indeed good (especially the upcoming arc) but it's a seinen
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>>160054117
>only decent shounens are still one piece
L
O
L
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>shounen super overpowered MC fights because nakama: the genre is finally dying
finally
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>>160055205
Then it follows it up with the provisional license exam, which is about as generic as it gets. Really felt like a buffer arc. The current arc should be way more interesting but we didn't need Amajiki, Kirishima, or Fat Gum in it. At least not in their current level of importance.
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>>160063595
>the animation
>Doesn't read the manga
KEK
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>>160063871
>>160063976
dumb frogger
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>>160064378
The manga is the same shit but worse. So obviously I'm going to judge the best version. Which just happens to be awful.
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Clover is going to save shonen

One Piss is too far gone post timeskip
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>>160054117
>only the weekly magazines exist
>shounen is a genre
I would suggest looking at shounen ace but then i remembered you're a newfag who doesn't know what that even is
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>>160068733
but shounen is a genre
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>You have to be 18 to post here
>the posters here read manga that are made for under 18's

I'm getting a weird rate of inconsistency. If this board doesn't want kids then why encourage it by posting shit kids enjoy? Think we'd be better off without the battleshounen trash here.
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>>160054252
I've come to realize that the ones who says this unironically is actually teenagers trying to act like an adult of man-child. Adults read what they enjoy and give no fucks to things like "it's something for kids!"
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post good shonen
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>>160069393
The newfags in this thread seem to think that battle shounen are the only type of shounen manga.
But yes, onizuka is great
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>>160069474
more like they never read manga other than the popular mainstream ones
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>>160054117
>shonen genre
WSJ was in a tight spot but they're slowly recovering. It would help if someone submitted something fucking good to a serialization meeting.
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>>160054252
>If you are over 15 you should not give a single fuck about shonen
that could be said about anime and manga in general m8
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>>160069972
>what is seinen
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>>160054117
>HxH fag shitposting
O
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>>160054811
>people just call it decent
only fangirls
it's really utter garbage
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>>160054117
I have faith

There is a certain 'wave' of new talent that is emerging right now, just give it time

Right now we are getting the people who were raised on the 'last gen' of shonens who will be taking center stage soon

I predict within the next 2-3 years we'll be seeing some really great series emerging
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>>160054117
Is it just me or does Gyro look really out of place?
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>>160063782
>one punch man
One Punch Man is a "generic-shounen parody" seinen manga. So... pretty accurate.
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>>160054117
You are kinda right, except I think Academia is fairly decent so far. It might turn shitty soon, it might not time will tell
>>160060839
I swear attack on titan hype is 80% thanks to the gore shit
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>>160070066
For teenagers
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>>160063441
>Nanatsu no Taizai.

...and we are done here. best series. best boys. (also best girls no homo)
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>>160072833
Oh yeah that reminds me when the mother of fuck is S2 out properly?
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So I decided to read some more shounen shoes to expand my tastes a bit, but I'm about 250 chapters into bleach, and it's just kinda bad.

It's hailed as being extremely good, but the only time that I really thought it was good, so far, was near to the beginning.

Does it get better? I get that the art is pretty good, but like, the story is just kinda bad. Power scaling all over the place, and the "big reveal" that everyone has said is a massive shocker (I didn't know about this before going into bleach), was just kinda expected.

Are shounen manga and shows actually all that good? I like one piece, but really, most of it seems lack luster.
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>>160060839
>attack on titan is like the most popular thing ever
?
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>>160054117
i agree with you OP except that there all really no good shounen left. one piece hasn't been good since ts and hxh will probably never get finished. ippo has gone on for too long as well. i don't think its the mangaka no longer being good so much as the monkeys over at the editorial department putting way too much input into another mangakas work trying to save their dying magazine

>>160073418
you choose the wrong ass shounen. most shounen fans will tell that bleach went to shit after the 13 divisions arc (forget what its even called). one piece is a good start if you wanna continue with that

>>160054252
>>160054330
>>160054332
oh look, moeshit fags here to rub in their non-existent superiority and ruin a perfectly good thread
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>>160073591
>everyone who dislikes battle shounen is a "moeshit fag"
Oh, boy.
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>>160069393
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>>160069393
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>>160073624
prove me wrong then
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What was good about past 'shonen'? Dragon Ball isn't worth reading beyond DB. I like Bleach and One Piece because they're genuinely complexly crafted stories but one of them is a parody. Naruto wasn't worth it past part 1 and peaked early on during a certain trap bridge arc.

Calling Ippo a shonen is stupid. It's a sports manga and those are a dime a dozen.
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Shonen reached its peak in the early 2000's. It will never be that good again.
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>>160078622
It's because back then people grew up on novels. Nowadays manga artists that grew up on ln trash and shonen manga are writing and drawing manga
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the remaining big series are One Piece and Fairy Tail.

The biggest new series are Shingeki No Kyojin, Boku no Hero Academia and Nanatsu no Taizai.
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>>160078823
Fairy Tail has 1 chapter left.
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>>160054117
>Once those are gone what is left?
Considering that these three will probably outlast anything that is currently on Jump, i wouldn't be very worried
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>>160078844

Then, we are in the new era of Shonen, with SnK being the Flag title.

I prefer BnHA, but I think it's too late for it to surpass SnK as it doesn't break the status quo as SnK did.
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>>160077903
>one piece
>early naruto
>early dragon ball

there you go, you've already answered the question yourself to name a bit of them

>>160078953
>mfw the face of new shounen in 2017 is between eren and midoria
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>Birdmen
>Dr. Stone
>Fire Force
we are fine OP
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NnT and OP are the only decent series among the heaps of garbage. And then maybe BnHA in a distant third place.
It's kinda telling for the genre that two blatant sequel cashgrabs like Boruto and Super are among the big names in shonen now.
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>>160054117
>one piece
>decent

lmao, OP is utter crap
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we still have Nanatsu,Birdmen, SnK and World Trigger. Magi was also great but nobody gives a fuck and its ending soon
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>>160054252
Shouldn't you be larping as a gay weeaboo otaku male in a madoka or lain thread right now you sad retard?

>>160054117
BNHA had potential but it's being squandered because the author doesn't trust himself to do some worldbuilding and throws away characters with potential to build up characters and ideas that he simply won't let go.

HxH is at best, okay and seems more like an interesting call back to shounen past rather then something I'd personally get really into.

OP is....consistent and has a few good places here and there. But overall it's servicable at best and gives the people who like it what they want.

Ippo is just ippo and George can't continue to spin his wheels with Ippo when it comes to certain things forever. It's good and consistent and is one of those series that hit the magical sweet spot of being able to tell almost any kind of story and it being that simple chicken soup kind of story. Yet also deliver something to people without getting sucked/pushed into the shounen power creep ghetto. Very few series are able to do this.

To be honest. I'm DESPERATE for a generic but with a few twists shounen/action anime. I honestly am.
It's all horrifyingly bad CGDCTS/SoL and queer stuff now. I'm serious.

Help me out here. I just want to watch an action anime with shounen sensibilities and action.
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>>160054117
Pic related is comprised of 3 decades of shonen works, which is a very small selection if you think about it.

The current selection of shonen is fine, it's only Big3fags like you are unwilling to try out new shit.
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>>160079210
I can assure you that plenty of bad shonen existed back then too. I just omitted them. I forgot to include KHR though. KHR was great
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>>160054117
And Gintama but that will be gone soon.
I'm sure a new generation will replace the old.
One Piece is past it's hey day but it's the most consistent of all the series in WSJ.
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>>160079608
>larping as a gay weeaboo otaku male in a madoka or lain thread right now
What.
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>>160054117
One piece is the most overrated manga in existence
Its all recycled shit every single arc and retards keep eating it up
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Everything is the exact same
>500+ episodes
>plot never really goes anywhere
>nothing but filler shit
>asspulls everywhere because "the power of friendshipXD1!!1!"
i dont see the appeal t bh
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>>160081096
Fairy Tail had 250+ episodes though, anon.
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>>160073579
Obviously excluding one piss.
>>160072656
If that where true there would be so many more popular manga, gore shit isn't new not even in shounen. Not to mention there's not even a lot of action in aot compared to your average shounen.
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>>160079608
I'm writing one lol. Give it a year, I gotchu senpai,
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Seriously /a/, what kind of thing does it take for a new wave of great shonen to appear? Does anything specific have to happen in nipponland?
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>>160081354
Nah. Something needs to happen here. I think the next wave of shonen will happen in American cartoons and comics.
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>>160081403
>American stuff starts calling itself "shounen" to appeal to weeaboos
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>>160068217
What's up with these Clover Fags acting like their series isn't worse than My Autistic Academia? Lmao, all these new Shounen are shit.
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>>160081514
I dont think it'll necessarily be actually called shonen.
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>>160079210

This generation lacks a MC capable of carrying the mantle.

You could say eren, but he became a fucking depressive bitch after he got his coordinator powers and BnHA's author is too afraid of giving Deku the leadership and confident attitude he needs to become AM successor.
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>>160060959
Dragonball up until the Piccolo saga?

Although Everyone probably watched at least some of Dragon ball
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>>160080453

In that pic you have:

The series that re-defined shonen : Dragon Ball

The series that gave Japan a Basketball team : Slam Dunk

The series that gave the resurgence of manga/anime scene in the west: Naruto and Bleach(and probably Yu-gi-oh! Too)

At this moment, the most important series is Attack on Titan even if we don't like it.
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>>160069393
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>>160081354
Good writers only serialize their manga in literally who magazines because it keeps the editors from interfering.
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>>160082216
>Good writers only serialize their manga in literally who magazines
Not really. There are plenty of good writers working in major magazines. WSJ (and weekly shounen in general, really) is just shit.
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>>160082216
Please elaborate, I have no knowledge of the industry and am very curious about this. Basically you are saying that all the good manga never get seen? I don't want this to be real. I should have learned japanese,
but am too dumb desu
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>>160079232
That reminds me to catchup on stone
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>>160081617
>BnHA's author is too afraid of giving Deku the leadership and confident attitude he needs to become AM successor
Still too early.
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>>160082727
>3 years with no character development outside of the first 10 chapters

>Too early

U wot.
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>>160054117
>one piece,hxh
>decent

This is a another reddit thread, right?
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BnHA is pretty good though, but to be honest I still havent seen a single series that matches up with DB's adventure, style and pacing.
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>>160082787
Too early in story
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>>160069374
I'm almost a wizard and I still don't understand why adults follow this kind of crap aside from nostalgia. even if there are some fun aspects, you can usually find those in shows that are actually made for your age group and more likely to have other things that appeal to you too.
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>>160080970
>Its all recycled shit
When you find a recipe that works and find some things that your audience and the audience in general likes...you run with it.
You give them exactly what they want and only build in more stuff to make it more likeable and change up things in ways that will make the series more likeable to the audience and even hopefully bring in more people.
It's a delicate balance of giving people what they want and things they didn't know that they wanted and bringing in more people while minimizing the amount of people who'll be turned off.
You have to hit those sweet spots juuuust right to get that formula down and occasionally experiment a bit and see how the audience reacts. And when you get it you fucking nail it and don't stop.
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>>160080970

Not even a big OPfag, but I don't know why people keep saying this when the manga has plenty of arcs that don't follow a formula at all.
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>>160083022
You're describing a nice commercial formula, not a formula for a good story.
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>>160083134
It has great world building and arcs. The people who say that probably haven't gone that far in the series. I can't blame them since it's so long.
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>>160083134
It's genuinely too unpredictable for me to even understand pattern fags.
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>>160083134

Been a while since i read OP but as far as I remember:

>Crew arrives into a new island under the regime of a bad guy (Arlong, Crocodile, Enel, Caesar, Moria, Hody, Doflamingo)
>Innocent people gets memed (the indians of the skypiea, those kids from Punk Hazard, the citizens that got turned into toys, zombies)
>damsel in distress (Nami, Robin, Shirahoshi, Rebecca) with some of their past related to the story.
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>>160083134
In the moment you have no idea what will happen but looking at it as a whole, it can be quite formulaic which makes it very fun to read but hard to defend
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Feels good to see autists try to shit talk bnha but almost everyone knows it's the next big thing
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>>160081354
Serialized web comics put up on twitter and talking with fans to see what they want.

that's about it.


See, the iskai genre has pretty much stolen all of the talent and the grueling brutal life of a mangaka has scared away all of the authors.
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>>160083305
It's had two seasons of anime, anon. It's not the "next" anything.
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>>160083306
>the iskai genre has pretty much stolen all of the talent
This statement is bafflingly retarded in numerous ways.

> the grueling brutal life of a mangaka has scared away all of the authors
There are plenty of new mangaka, what are you on about?
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>>160083306
>the iskai genre has pretty much stolen all of the talent
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>>160083327
What does that even mean
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>>160083282
To me it seems like you never understood OP at all.
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>>160083282
There is enough of the story that isn't in that formula to make it worth reading even though the beginning is island hopping and beat up the bad guy. Every arc is planned and the series has heart for the most part.
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>>160083427
It's an established franchise at this point, not some up-and-comer. It's past the stage where it would usually get some big burst of popularity, and it's unlikely to grow to any major extent from here on out.
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>>160083163
Good stories are one and done things. They have a beginning, a middle and an end.
Many shounen have all of one good story and the rest of the time they're just circling the drain, hoping that they can do better in the next story or at least replicate it's success.
That ONE arc that was so good, so great that it defines the series.
That one portrayal of a character that is so good that it sells them and even helps sell the story itself.

Most mangaka will never find that one good story that they can capitalize on or hope to replicate. And even fewer will become lucky enough to find those characters that will define the series and become part of the public consciousness or become a life onto themselves.
But woe onto those who have those characters but either hate them or simply dismiss them.

Anyway, I'm saying that once they find that story they repeat certain things from it in a larger story. They build on that story in an organic way and let it grow based on the authors imagination and analysis and what the audience likes and wants.
A give and take that will help create something very large and very great.

That's what I mean.
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>>160054117
>shonen
>genre
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Tbh the big 3 era was the epitome of shonen manga at least for jump in terms of quality.

>One Piece
>Naruto
>Bleach
>Death Note
>Gintama
>Eyeshield 21
>To Love Ru
>Bobobo
>D. Gray-man

And you could possibly add Toriko and Reborn!
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>>160083441

>show formula
>"You don't understand lol"

2/10

>>160083457

The point was to show if OP followed a formula, not if it has heart or not.
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>>160083507
the big 3 were shit. all of shonen jump's good series get moved out of shonen jump.
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>>160083533
You genuinely missed the point
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>>160055205
>The problem is, there's not a shonen hero capable of carrying the mantle that Goku,Kenshin,Yusuke,Yugi, that guy from SD,Luffy,Naruto and Ichigo (for a while).

it's pretty much this. the important pieces of iconography are all either retired, on their death bed, or forgotten and there's nothing currently to quite match the standard they once had.

In America at least its an socio-economic reason I'd argue. Manga and anime popularity peaked in the mid-00's and kind of imploded in the 2010's. There's no generation-defining thing like the naruto/bleach/one-piece thing that allows them to market the whole shonen thing here as one big package but rather focus on individual titles like AoT or Tokyo Ghoul which both lack the aforementioned iconography trait.

I'd also say the general shift in taste has switched to moeblob 'comedies'/things that are generally quirky that feature almost formless cute girls doing quirky things and dramatic, slice-of-life series where nothing happens until the end where shit suddenly escalates and the beta virgin mc finally holds hands with his dream girl
>>
maybe the editors will stop forcing mangaka to pull Dragonball shit and keep dragging a series out for 10-20 years using increasingly broken powerlevel scales because the author had to keep making it "more epic"
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>>160083533
It follows a formula while exanding on what the formula offers. That's all there is.

>>160083617
>guy from SD
What is SD?
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>>160083507
Didn't understand the appeal of Toriko. The anime didn't help either.

Eyeshield 21 is pretty bad too. It's just generic sports manga.
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>>160083507
i miss d. gray-man even though hoshino couldn't draw a fight to save her life. Miranda a cute
Eyeshield was great
Following Death Note as it came out was all hype
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>>160083647
>forcing
>>
>this isn't even my full power
>I want to protext X
>I'm strong because of my friends
if your series contains any of this it's garbage tier
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>>160083725
gues bobobo is trash according to you then
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>tfw you can't draw
>tfw you want to save shounen though.
Suffering.
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>>160083507
I miss Reborn.
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>>160083680
he either meant slam dunk or shaman king and misplaced a k for a d
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>>160083684

I had normie football friends that knew about E21 even when they weren't manga/animefags or weeabos.
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>>160083771
Probably Slam Dunk because it was bigger and had more influence. Thanks anon.
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>>160083816
>>160083936
>normie
Fuck off back to wherever you came from, cancer.
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>>160084057
I'm quoting a guy you dunce
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>>160083617
>I'd also say the general shift in taste has switched to moeblob 'comedies'/things that are generally quirky that feature almost formless cute girls doing quirky things and dramatic, slice-of-life series where nothing happens until the end where shit suddenly escalates and the beta virgin mc finally holds hands with his dream girl
What the hell are you on about? Action series and kids' stuff remain the most popular of both anime and manga, both in Japan and abroad.
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>>160083725
>>I'm strong because of my friends
What is wrong with this?
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>>160054117

>we

stopped reading there
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>>160083468
But it has gotten more popular
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>>160054117

>I'm a grown man whining about mangas meant for kids

how about you do your research first and find out what "SHONEN" means?
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>>160084331
>stories meant for kids can't be entertaining to adults
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>>160084479
>complaining when stories meant for kids don't entertain you
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>>160084504
>stop being critical of this story
Did you write it or something? You sound like Miyazaki
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>>160054828
Does that count as a shonnen? I mean sure it has a way different and more unique narrative structure than most shonnen but is it not a seinnen or something?
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>>160061048
Samurai Champloo has one of the best coreographed fights. Have you watched that?
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>>160073591
>>160073418
Nah man don't listen to this fucko One Piece has shit pacing and is not a good introduction. I'll admit it has its charm and some very strong quality but its way too dragged out and slow for an introduction.
I'd say FMA:B and seven deadly scenes is a nice start.
FMA:B has good fights but its main attraction is the story. Seven Deadly scenes just has good fucking fight scenes but the story is pretty mediocre.
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>>160084719
No I haven't seen one of the most popular and highly rated shows made by manglobe.
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>>160084796
>one piece
>shit pacing
Too fast for you?

>deadly sins
>good fighting scenes
Literally only the first one isn't asspull teleporting behind you bullshit.
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>>160054117
Mangaka haven't changed so much as the audience has changed, as well as things that inspire said mangakas. Shonen was always generic, but back in the old days it followed different trends, and since people solidify their taste once they are past certain age, it just doesn't look so good anymore.
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>>160084890
>Literally only the first one isn't asspull teleporting behind you bullshit.
I mean I know it isn't the most intellectually challenging or with very intelligent fights, but as far as mindless fighting and looking cool and shit, it does its job well.
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>>160084921
What age is that?
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>>160063441
Kongou Bancho was better
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>naruto didn't end
>yugioh never ended
>dragon ball didn't end
>we got platinum end to replace death note
>we got that khr replacement
What more do you want?
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>>160085042
I don't know, apparently 30 is when taste in music completely stops to evolve, but it might be different for anime, given that as the brain matures it looks at certain situations differently.
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>>160085179
So after 30 I should basically stop living and consuming media?
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>>160085150
What is KHR's replacement?
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>>160085206
Also we got that bleach replacement.
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>>160085194
No, you'll just feel very nostalgic and have much more fun with old stuff than the new one.
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>>160083762
this image made me want to write a story about a guy with no friends in a society literally powered by friendship. Like, good luck driving your car without givin' your bro a high five first

its a horrible idea
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>/a/ suddenly hates wan piss
why? is it because it's actually good? have the contrarian memes gone too far?
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>>160085294
contrarians and hipsters
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>>160054117
>genre
You mean demographic?
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>>160085294
>suddenly
it was always a minority of really obnoxious fans
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>>160085226
I still do t know what replaced Reborn though.

>>160085339
They've grown in number I think since One Piece is going while other series have ended.
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>>160054862
>I pick distinct ""parts"" of popular things and claim they went to shit after that part

Yeah dude. Season 4/Post-timeskip/When X died/After arc Y/After Movie 5 was announced/When voice actor Z left

the series went to shit.
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>>160085294
>suddenly
Someone wasn't here for wikispammer.
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>>160085245
black torch is literally bleach
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>>160085285
made me kek
>you should totally do it
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>>160085370
Meant for >>>160085733

>>160085245
I doubt it. I rarely can enjoy older stuff I watched.
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>>160085226
What's that? Seraph?
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>>160085746
>kek
>How do I use greentext?
Fuck off, newfag.
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set fail for wan piss
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>>160087709
Still the best selling mango of all time no matter how much you hate it.
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