Princess Principal

Ange is a lie.

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Imagine Princess taking a shit. Her small hands scrunched up as she closes her eyes in anticipation, sitting nervously on a toilet at school and waiting for her bowel movements to start. Her small pink butthole slowly opening and closing in a way that would almost be lewd if she weren't about to take a dump. An impossibly large, slimy shit log slowly snaking out of the confines of her large intestine as she strains with all her might, gasping from the sensations. Her face covered with sweat and a light blush from the embarrassment and the smell, hoping that no other girl enters the adjacent stall and discovers the earthy scent of her waste and the un-princesslike sounds being made by her poop chute. A tinge of regret as she wishes she'd eaten more healthily over the past few days so she wouldn't have to suffer so in the present. A wet plop as her shit hits the toilet bowl, staining what was previously a pristine piece of porcelain. A small moan escaping her cherry pink lips, dewy wet with saliva and a small indent from having bitten down on it during her shit, as she daintily wipes her butt and cleans herself up, hoping that she'll at least enjoy the fortune of a clean poop. Her teary-eyed expression as she keeps wiping again and again, wondering why she keeps discovering a deep brown stain on each piece of toilet paper she uses. Her sigh of relief as she finally stands up and pulls up her cute white panties, a little unsteady on her feet, and glances down while blushing at her enormous shit log, feeling relieved that she managed to get it all out. Her surprise and intense shame as she leaves the toilet stall, only to see Ange waiting outside for her with an angelic smile.

Imagine Princess taking a shit.

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>http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/109309

The nips are laughing at us.

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>>159964590
>yaraon
Here is your free reply.

>>159964590
>foreigners are too serious
>the show is garbage
>the writer is garbage
>foreigners only pirate anime, so it doesn't matter
>show was targeting gaijins
>if you don't speak english, you won't understand the show
>what do foreigners even see in this anime
>multiple stalker/sales posts

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I think this is the first time we see Ange being genuinely surprised about something.

>>159964582
>the toilet wasnt clogged

>>159964683
>That one frame where the mouth disappears
Retake plz.

This show is complicated to understand. Why make such terrible plot? No meaning at all and just confuse people.

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cute

>>159964799
>sample

>>159964670
You're really picking comments here. Looking through them most of the discussion is just about sales and wondering what kind of anime are popular in the west.

>>159964745
Don't think anybody at 3Hz has "analyzed" this scene as much as we have.

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Hold up.

>>159964843
I don't think so. When you're working on a scene you see it over and over and over. If you don't catch it, the supervisor will.
They probably just decided that no one will notice Ange's mouth disappearing for 2 frames and that it wasn't worth a retake.

>Duke of Normandy
Why are they using a title that hasn't been held by the British since 1259? Normandy's in fucking France, it's been a French title since then.
Or is this an alternative timeline where the British royal family married into the Normandy line instead of the Hanover line? Why does this need to be so convoluted?

>>159964704
Princess has suffered enough.

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So apparently 3Hz went out of its way to construct the ballroom in Maya in order to get the size and lighting right. They based everything in the room, floor patterns, ceiling designs, chandeliers, etc., off of 1:1 scale items their researchers found.

>>159964590
Should've called Yaraon's shit in that thread

>>159964898
There sure are supervisors that have the menial task of checking frame for frame. What I wanted to say is that after the episode aired some needy people with too much free time on a taiwanese basket weaving board made several webms of this scene alone for the purpose of oggling at these fine tits; much more eyes had the chance of noticing a small mistake like this.

Which princess would you principle?

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>>159964943
Anonymous!
Hey, Anonymous!

Shut up.

>>159964964
There must be hints here. We need that 3D model to analyse.

>>159964998
Ah yes, now the shitposting can really begin.

>>159964964
The backgrounds are really nice

>>159964997
True, I didn't notice it during my first viewing. Only when I looked at the webm.

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>>159964998
Certainly not Ange.

>>159965007
What's your problem?

>>159964964
3DCGi is Actas's handiwork.

>>159965023
3hzfags won't mention Actas til (if) this show become bad, then they will blame everything to Actas.

>>159964964
>all this work went into constructing the ballroom
>the nips still can't figure out why foreigners like it

It's really funny watching 11's see a show with a good story, good characters, and a good setting, and then argue that there's no compelling reason to like it because it's "targeted at westerners!!!"

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This scene from episode 1 is a lot clearer now. And I liked Dorothy's reaction to Ange giving in to the Princess' innocent request.

>>159965051
Pay no attention to yaraon and go lurk in some actual nip threads, Anonymous.

>>159964943
>The Queen is still referred to as the Duke of Normandy in the Channel Islands
Huh, you learn a new thing every day. It still doesn't make sense in this context though, since it's held by the incumbant monarch and isn't recognised elsewhere.

>>159965007
No, it's important. They could've made it Duke of Edinburgh/York/Gloucester/Kent, etc, which might have actually made sense.

>>159965049
The only ones bringing up studios are you guys who like inciting studio wars. If the show goes to shit everyone will blame the writer, who is known for his trainwrecks, and not Actas.
But the writing has actually been good so far, which I hope will continue till the end.

>>159965101
They said Albion's empire rivals that of the Romans in episode 1's intro, so I would assume France is under their control.

>>159965071
You just know that the same thing's happened in every single one of the last twelve cases. Dorothy's resigned by now to Ange being pussy-whipped no matter how naive Princess is being.

>>159965051
Why you even go yaraon? it's trash site.

>>159965104
The writer of this show always done well in first 6 or 7 episodes.
After that will be real test.

>>159965124
Seemed like an analogue for the actual British Empire circa the Victorian/Edwardian Era, which had significantly more extensive territories than the Roman Empire, but that didn't include France. Mixing it up just makes it unnecessarily convoluted, the whole East/West London-Not-Berlin thing is messy enough as is.

>>159965104
I'll blame Actas, 3Hz and the writer because they're all in this shit together.

Why do princesses always betray their countries? Have i missed something about nip history and the ending of ww2?

>>159965229
They usually don't though, unless they're the princess of an evil empire.

>>159965175
"Well" is a bit of a overstatement. He's been serviceable, but the writing itself was never anything that would make you say "Wow, that was really tightly-written" the way this has been so far.

Is this show good?

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>>159965124
>>159965198

>>159965267
No.

>>159965267
No.

>>159965198
To be fair if England suddenly gained sole air superiority over the world, the first thing they'd do is take a dump on France. I don't think the show is aiming to be super realistic anyways.

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>>159965297

>>159965198
>>159965297
>>159965375
Well, it's pretty dumb. But if Princess or Ange isn't Empress of India by the end of the series, I'll be sorely disappointed.

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>>159965267
Terrible. Worst show this season.

>>159965318
>>159965320
>>159965441
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>>159965428
>Not highlighting Syria, Iraq and Pakistan as well and renaming it the Islamic State Empire
If you're going to /pol/ is up at least go all out.

>>159965297

It's kind of horrifying to think such idea was not only acceptable at a time but also an ugly reality.

Makes you realize that even if today's world is filled with problems its still at least moving in the right direction.

>>159965431
>Empress of India
I think the Brown Chick could strike a deal with Ange and the Princess. She would give'em crucial informations on Duke of Normandy or something like that in exchange for her homeland gaining independence from the Kingdom of Albion. Ange would say yes.
Guess what would happen next.

>>159965532
>Guess what would happen next.
Not-Ghandi-chan gets shot?

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Why did Ange specifically react in surprise to this gesture? Princess's earlier lines were all far more shocking.

I'm thinking that either it references something from their shared childhood, much as their first conversation did, or else she was signalling that Ange should hand her the key, as she'd worked out what they were doing and realized Normandy would trap them.

Wait, what now? So Ange is a double agent whose real name is Charlotte? But why does the little letter read she gave to the princess read "My dear Ange"? I don't get it. Is the princess also a double agent that already got switched with the real princess?

>>159965570
Because she didn't just say "I want to join your organization." She said "I want you organization to join me."

It shows how ambitious and commanding she is. Ange probably wasn't expecting something like that, considering the last time they saw each other, Princess was just a commoner.

I'm really liking this show, but I feel kinda lost on some of the major plot elements. Does this take place before episode 1? What's Ange's allegiance? Is it that she works for the spy organization (still not sure if it's East or West she's working for, I think West?), but her priority is the princess due to her personal connection to her?

>>159965570
Because the fake princess is better at being a princess than the real one.

>>159965694
That's a shade of meaning introduced by the translation. The Japanese is just "join together".

>>159965692
Ange (spy) is actually the real princess, Charlotte.
Charlotte (princess) is a commoner named Ange who switched places with Ange (spy) 10 years ago either by accident or for some unknown reason.

>>159965692
Normandy calls Princess "Charlotte". Charlotte is Ange's real name. The implication is that Princess and Ange swapped roles some time ago and that "Ange" (Charlotte) is the real princess.

>>159965710
>Does this take place before episode 1?
Episode 2 takes place before episode 1.
>What's Ange's allegiance?
The republic and she infiltrated a school in the monarchy, the same one the princess attends so she's living in enemy territory (don't ask me which is est and which is west)
The princess works for her own agenda and made a deal with them now to basically >>159965694

>>159964670
I want more translations this is interesting. Why are they talking about foreigners in the first place? And why do they not like this show? It seems like the perfect fit for those guys.

>>159965751
Probably a body double prepared for the sake of being killed in the London revolution, while the real princess escapes. Things went South and she stayed alive, with the princess gone.

I don't get the foreign minister's actions

What difference does it make whether he gives the key to normandy or to princess? aren't both of them are eastern nobility?

>>159965789
It comes down to trusting whether the duke or the princess will use the key and blueprints for nefarious purposes. He chose to trust the princess.

>>159965746
It's more like "join hands with me." Still sounds more commanding than a simple "let's work together." It's like she's saying, "I have a plan, I want you to follow me."

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>>159965461
It's literally too complicated to understand.

So how long until the evil monarchy is defeated and the good side wins?

>>159965761
>Why are they talking about foreigners in the first place?

Someone posted on 2ch one of /a/'s infographics about the show.

>>159965849
There is no good side.

>>159965849
10 more episodes.

>>159965849
>implying there is a good side

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>>159965789

>>159965806
sounds irrational. they stated the princess has no political backing/influence, so why would he trust a little girl to help him defect? the guy is dying and wants to spend his last days with his family so it makes no sense why he would gamble like this

>>159965850
Ah, the one that one was linked in there. So they dont like the show or are they just suprised western people like it that much.

>>159965865
>the characters are employed as spies by a country that is literally a people's republic made after mass revolt against the despotic tyranny of the monarchists
>no side is good
huh?

>>159965889
They just dislike us.

>>159965889
>So they dont like the show or are they just suprised western people like it that much.

A little of both. Most of the discussion is why "foreigners" seem to like it so much.

>外人はスパイとか好きだからな
>Foreigners like spies I guess.

>>159965903
There is no good side.

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>>159965756
East is the monarchy, West is the commies.

>>159964943
>Or is this an alternative timeline
What, you didn't learn about that time when East and West Britain had a cold war with the London Wall dividing them, and flying battleships ruled the sky?

>>159965908
I mean we do say they have shit taste most of the time, so I maybe thats why. Do you know the reason why they dislike us or is it just baka gaijins?

>>159965884
It would be in Cornwall which is in Commonwealth territory. Morgan's wife would defect over there to be with him in Ange's deal.

>>159965810
That much is evident as soon as she starts talking. Both of the others are shocked at what she has to say, but Ange keeps a poker face and appears to be trying to work out what the game is (including a classic eyes-but-no-mouth shot, suggesting a meaning beyond the surface reading of their words), and it's only at that point that she reacts - and it's not a shocked or horrified reaction so much as a sudden realization.

>>159965916
Its not that we like it so much, its that we have good taste and nips can't into anything that isn't spelled out. Same reason why flipflappers flopped.

>>159965964
They just hate
Just like us.

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>>159965692
It's the Prince and the Porpoise.

>>159965970
I don't know, anon. I think you might be reading too much into at this point.

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>>159966036

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>>159966049

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>>159966060

>>159965462
>Brexit will mean Scotland and Northern Ireland are gone
Isn't really /pol/, if anything it's a left-wing meme.

>>159966060
What could it mean?

>>159966060
>>159966069
you're reaching now

>>159966060
DOROSHIIIII

>>159965972
>nips can't into anything that isn't spelled out.

It's not quite that simple. Japanese people are fundamentally corporate drones operating on a cultural hivemind of uniformity and conformity. They literally cannot understand "enjoyment" or "emotions" which are not invoked in a careful, scrupulous, and conceited way crafted though a design committee and focus group tested. If they think it's not aimed right for them, they'll ignore it. Not because it's bad, but because they simply cannot understand it.

>opとEDが少し残念
>もっと英語が得意な人間に歌わせてればね
>アンジェのメモはもう解読されたんだな
>It's got English in it and it's set in England. I guess it's for gaijins and not me!!!`wwwww

It's almost cute seeing them try to grapple with the fact that a Japanese studio using foreign themes, symbols, and motifs (spy stories are rare in Japan. So are mysteries).

>>159966036
>>159966049
>>159966060
>>159966069
Literally what are you trying to imply with this. None of those poses or shots are even alike.

>>159966026
Could be. If Ange's face was already in shot when she reacted, I'd probably agree, but cutting specifically to show a close-up of a reaction often is an indication of it being significant.

I still have no idea of what the fuck is going on.
The only thing I get is Ange is the real princess.

>>159966110
I think you're reading too much into it. But we'll see.

>>159966099
The dialogues seems pretty similar(i'm not sure).

I'm pretty sure Princess is lying about being the fake one and Ange is complicit with those lies.

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>>159966132
It's a very easy show... r-right guys?

>>159966132
You can grasp that but can't understand anything else?

Commonwealth=West=Commie
Kingdom=East=Fuedal

?

>>159966159
Not even this infographic is accurate, still needs changes.

>>159966089
>It's not quite that simple.
You begin your post like that and in the very next sentence you generalize 125 million people. Nations don't work that way.

>>159966193
I was in the threads earlier when anon was constructing it. It's been peer-reviewed multiple times.

What is inaccurate?

>>159966089
I dont get this though, some of the most popular and successful shows are always those inspired by german/european culture, be it ghibli, AoT, FMA, Code Geass or even things like frozen etc . You see it everywhere. Is this a recent trend where they dont seem to get that stuff?

>>159966151
That would be a twist. They are lying to each other in private, is that Ange fetish?

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>>159966089
>>159966226
>yaraon comments represents all of Japan's otakus.

>>159966159
>>159966193
>>159966224
Please stop making these things guys. When people come into our threads it makes our fanbase look like retards that can't understand a simple spy show without a goddamn wiki page in an image. We need to keep up appearances

>>159966174
>you need to know English to understand this
Japan is just dumb. Even a casual observer could see that it was written to Ange by Charlotte and infer that they had already executed this life swap. The scribbles are just a bit of fluff exposition on top of it.

>>159966224
Kingdom of Albion paragraph says Morgan will receive safe passage over the wall. He does not need safe passage over the wall because he is already over it working at an embassy in the Kingdom.

>>159966257
I have no idea, man. Thats why I am asking. Joker Game last year was a pretty big success for example, so its really not that simple. Are yaraon otakus more anti-gaijin?

>>159964582
That's my fetish. Got more?

>>159966132
>>159966159
It's all very simple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwZPnbkt5GQ

>>159966174
>>159966278
The letter could have been completely unintelligible and it wouldn't matter. Princess calls Ange "Charlotte" at the end of the episode, that should be more than enough.

>>159966323
Yaraon is not a forum, it's a shitty matome site that reposts comments from 2ch, cherry-picked and given a title to be as clickbaity as possible. Give anything it says the same credibility you'd give something Sankaku says.

>>159966301
>Kingdom of Albion paragraph says Morgan will receive safe passage over the wall. He does not need safe passage over the wall because he is already over it working at an embassy in the Kingdom.
>He's working at an Embassy.
>He doesn't need safe passage.

So... you don't know how embassies or citizenship works? Does that need to be spelled out too?

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So where's the infograph for episode 2?

>>159966323
Possible, or it can be a current trend among some of the blog's commenters, or just what those particular commenters thinks. The important point is that Yaraon is just a blog, nothing more, nothing less.
Taking Yaraon as an accurate depiction of what otaku thinks is like taking Sankaku Complex as an accurate depiction of what western anime fans thinks.

Like you said there are a lot of anime in fantasy western style world or that straight up happen in the western world. Those guys in the comments are just dumb idiots like the ones on /a/ who see western pandering in every time they see an anime make a reference to western culture.

>>159966388
Over the wall? He is from Commonwealth, the other side of the wall but is in the Kingdom already. Why does he need to go over it (there are bigger things I am going to get to)?

>>159966418
>>159966159

>>159966385
Each article's comments section can be considered a forum.

A horrible, sesspool of filth kind of forum.

>>159966418
and now anon can't even seach a thread

>>159966430
>Why does he need to go over it?

Are you really interpreting a statement like "over the wall" literally? Anon, if someone says they need "safe passage over the wall" that probably means they're defecting. It doesn't mean we're going to literally throw them from one side of the wall to the other.

Is this really too complicated of a concept?

>>159966174
UR A FAGT shop when

>>159966159
Who made this?

Why would he need safe passage to see his wife in cornwall when he's already a member of the commonwealth?

>>159966518
Some newfag who is always posting with his shitty 4chan pass on.

>>159966427
Ah, that makes sense then. So the equivalent of reddit/4chan is what in japan? Other than 2ch that is.

>>159966334
Any requests?

>>159966518
me.

>>159966269
Don't bully sodium vapor-kun

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>>159966536
>doesn't even know what this site is based on
This is the state of the modern Anonymous.

>>159966507
This is supposed to clear things up not create misleading metaphors that imply he's not in the Kingdom. At any rate, a bigger problem is that section 5 says Ange will help him defect to Cornwall. This is wrong. She says she will help his wife defect to Cornwall. Incidentally, Cornwall is far west of London, in Commonwealth territory. So she is suggesting to smuggle his wife over rather than he himself.

>>159966549
lie

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>>159966582
>based on
More like a copy.

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>>159965051
"targeted at westerners" is the exact same reason people here use to justify hating plenty of shows.

In both cases it's just a boogeyman used to justify saying "I do not like thing".

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>>159966605
delet

>>159966582
There has to be more than just 2ch

>>159966610
"targeted at westerners" is usually used here to justify hating Japanese capeshit, and fuck capeshit

>>159966639
>2ch
The modern Anonymous.

>>159966589
Anon... if he's in the _Kingdom_ as a _diplomat_, where does he need to defect? You should be able to solve this.

>>159966650
I've seen it used way more to shit on Trigger than capeshit though.

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>>159966595

>>159966678
Stop having autism, Anonymous.

>>159966665
The kingdom right?

>>159966665
He will give the Kingdom the key in return for the Kingdom allowing his wife to defect to the Commonwealth.

>>159966567
I remember that too. Early flip flappers threads were crazy.

>>159966701
Yes. He needs to defect to the Kingdom. The Princess (Ange) can help him do that. Ange wants him to do that because then The Kingdom won't get the key (keep in mind they work for the Commonwealth, although he doesn't know that).

>>159966709
>He will give the Kingdom the key in return for the Kingdom allowing his wife to defect to the Commonwealth.

Can you just post Ange so I think you're lying and not actually retarded?

>>159966736
Where do you think Cornwall is?

>>159966709
No, the Duke will grant him citizenship so that he can leave the embassy to be with his wife who is in the Kingdom.

>>159966418
In the episode. In the dialogue to be specific.

>>159964590
>外人はスパイとか好きだからな
>外人さんしゅごい
>なんか報告書みたいでカッコイイ
>すっご
>また外人が解析したのか
Ain't THAT negative tho.

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>>159966717
>Early flip flappers threads were crazy.

They sure were.

>>159966543
Elaborate on this. Make it a fanfiction style, like how she got to the toilet, how she pulled down her panties, how she sat, what sounds she made, etc. You know, like a story.

>>159966736
He is from the Commonwealth. He wants to make the deal with the Kingdom in order to be with his family. Therefore his wife is in the Kingdom. If Ange says "I can help your wife defect to Cornwall", that implies Cornwall is within the Commonwealth. Ergo, there is no need for Morgan to defect at all if he takes Ange's deal.

>>159964832
He's just shitposting to try stir up shit at this point. I posted those comments as a paragraph initially threads ago after mentioning the comments on 2ch seemed impressed.

>>159966927
>2 minutes
>deleted
thank you based mods

>***,422位 (***,*91pt) [*,**0予約] 2017年09月27日 プリンセス・プリンシパル I (特装限定版) [Blu-ray]
Why are people saying this is going to flop? Seems to be doing average at worst at the moment.

>>159965073
As far as Futaba is concerned, it is fact that they are basically looking down on gaijin.

>>159966986
Not really, I deleted my own post since I accidentally posted the wrong show.

>>159967007
How was their reaction to FliFla and /a/ liking it?

>>159966671
Yep, I usually see anti-trigger studio war faggots going on about Western pandering.

>>159966659
2channel, 2ch or 2chan what's the deal? Everyone understands whats being meant, I mean 2chan.

>>159967025
>>159966990
don't post stalker shit here

>>159967007
There's pretty much no mention of anything to do with these threads in the Futuba threads I've seen. Last time I looked at 2ch princess principal thread and someone brought up foreigners opinions the response they got was just someone basically saying who cares what foreigners think.

>>159967037
>4chan, Yotsuba or reddit what's the big deal? Everyone understands whats being meant, I mean tumblr

>>159966990
Because top 500 is not enough, it need way higher, good news is it starts turning good after episode 2, it can end up selling decent if Okuchi don't ruin it again.

>>159967007
I've been lurking and occasionally posting on 2chan for a long time, and in my experience they almost always consider us in a higher regard than we consider them.

>>159966903
>He is from the Commonwealth.
Right.
>If Ange says "I can help your wife defect to Cornwall", that implies Cornwall is within the Commonwealth.
Anon... if he is from the Commonwealth and Cornwall is in the Commonwealth he doesn't need to defect at all. He can just go home normally. But if Cornwall is in The Kingdom, he needs to defect to be with his family.

The original plan is
>No, the Duke will grant him citizenship so that he can leave the embassy to be with his wife who is in the Kingdom.

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>>159966736
>HURR DURR, SUPER IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW

>>159967025
The same reaction they have most of the time including this time. Just observing that foreigners have different tastes. The whole idea of Japanese collectively hating shows because they think it's targeting westerners is a fabrication. At most it would be a few shitposters just like here.

>>159967110
Do they also think we have shit taste or what do comment on typically?

>>159967177
>Do they also think we have shit taste
I think perhaps the real question is why is this important to you.

>>159967144
I mean, were they laughing when >883 happened?

>>159967123
It is implied his family is already in the Kingdom. Why would his wife need to defect if Cornwall is in the Kingdom? The only conclusion is that Cornwall is in the Commonwealth.

>>159967177
An opinion I've seen multiple times from Japanese is that to be popular with foreigners a show needs to be a battle show, fantasy/near future sci-fi or have a dark world view.

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>>159966838
>なんか報告書みたいでカッコイイ
What a nerd

>>159967212
Dig through yaraon's archives if you're curious about salesfaggotry.

>>159966851
I'm still waiting for episode two.

That infographic doesn't explain why she didnt hide the key in her butt

>>159967212
Maybe a few comments in the sales posts on yaraon? Not a big thing like "the show the foriegners like flopped" though or anything. Saw a few comments on 2ch saying before that it wouldn't sell well because foreigners don't buy discs. The fact of the matter is it just wasn't significant enough there for anyone to care enough to hate it.

>>159967286
Maybe her butt hurts.

>>159967314
It doesn't

>>159967332
How do you know?

>>159967286
It is because she still had the Cavorite ball on her which wouldn't fit, so putting the key in her butt is useless.

>>159967342
I'm a spy

>>159967286
>shoving anything up your butt
>having to deal with the pain it causes you as you move around
>might cause internal injuries because it's a fucking metal key

>>159967348
>which wouldn't fit

>>159967399
>implying they aren't sluts who love that 'pain'

>>159967193
Its interesting isnt it? They are so isolated that its hard to understand trends and opinions over there apart from whatever information sales will give me. I mean why are you on 4chan? Probably for similar reasons.

>>159964964
where'd you find this? a tweet?

>>159967227
Pretty accurate actually.

>>159967444
Maybe /jp/ or /int/ is what you are looking for.

>>159967477
Yeah there's more there.

>>159964964
Instead of making a 1:1 replica why wouldn't they just go to an actual ballroom, hell even if Japan has literally none and they have to take a plane to Europe, it still has to be cheaper than making one.

I wonder if they're going to somehow silence this Morgan dude before he tells the Duke how the princess was the reason behind him backing out from the deal.

What's "good writing" anyway?

>>159967487
The nips aren't any different, considering shows like Madoka or the Monogatari series are such big sellers.

>>159967574
A meme.

>>159967444
>Its interesting isnt it?
No, not really.
Seeing how Japan thinks of an anime is interesting. Seeing if they approve or disapprove of what we think about it, not so much.

>I mean why are you on 4chan?
Because I've been here for too long and can no longer escape.
In any case, it's not to toss the "shit taste" volley ball around, if that's what you're wondering.

Isn't yaraon the kind of site that gathers all normalfags, the kind that vote Kiriko for number 1 MC in those shitty magazines anyway?

>>159967574
Depends. If we're talking about know-how, then good writing is technically correct writing. As to what that is, by a book or go to college.

Then there is the artistic side of things. I guess in that sense, good writing is supposed to be creative and imaginative and so on.

>>159967566
Actually no. Most of the episode took place in the ballroom and showed it with different angles. Having a 3D ballroom allow you to make more camera movements and make the BG department/subcontractor's job that much easier since they only have to trace the right 3D angle to make the lines.

It was much cheaper to have a 3D modeler work on it for one week than have multiple people travel to europe and take pics of one ballroom. It would have been a waste if they showed it for only one scene, but here that wasn't the case.

>>159967574
Writing I like.

>>159967574
It's all subjective, innit?

So is this show as complicated as people say it is?

>>159967798
No, it's not. I'm average in terms of IQ but it's easily understandable.

>>159967798
No.

>>159967766
No everything.

>>159967798
Only the irrelevant details are complicated, you should grasp the important stuff in one go though.

>>159967574
1.Knowing how to write on a technical level (use of grammar, etc.).
2.Knowing how to write a story that's coherent and entertaining.

>>159967798
Not at all. Not trying to sound like a cunt but I'm honestly baffled at how many people don't get it.

>>159967798
By anime standards, sure. That's a pretty low bar though.

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>>159967798
It's very straightforward.

>>159967859
>technical level (use of grammar, etc.).
Not just grammar. Knowing how to built a proper narrative structure and how to keep characters consistent and so on. That's technical too.

>>159965049
3D has nothing to do with ACTAS or 3hz. Try reading the damn credits for once.

3D Animation: Tri-Slash

>>159967574
Abandon capeshit story and learn from Tomino.

If Princess is the principal who is the collateral?

>>159967898
What is a "proper" narrative structure? Is anything that stands out and does things different not "proper"?

>>159964964
I thought the cgi was distracting at times (especially the shot panning over the curtains), but I appreciate it more knowing they made the effort to get it in scale.

Are these the same people who did the cgi models for GuP? Those were always very consistent.

>>159967798
No idiots just can't follow something basic, some key lines directly from the show:
>No I must give it to him in person and have him guarantee my asylum
(in reference to the Home Secretary of the Kingdom, the East of London)
and
>I can help your wife defect to cornwall
(In the Far West of the country)

His motivation is that he wants to be with his wife.
If you are of average inteligence you can take from it that he was going to defect to the kingdom, the protags made a counter offer to smuggle his wife to the commonwealth instead. But this thread shows how much confusion something as simple as that causes.

>>159967927
The other princess, the old hag and the may-as-well-be maid.

>>159967882
So its well written? That bodes well for devilman as Okouchi is the writer for that one too.

>>159968048
It's been pretty good so far, though keep in mind it's only been two episodes. It still has plenty of time to shit the bed, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>159967898
That's true, should have said grammatical for 1. rather than technical since proper narrative structure isn't subjective as people say.
>>159967929
A proper narrative structure in when the story go through different states and eventually ends, each of these states marking changes in the world and/or characters, in a way that is coherent and engaging.
A good example of unproper narrative structure in my mind would be something that happened in Symphogear GX : the main character, Hibiki, suddenly had to deal with issues she already dealt with in the past. As if her character reverted back for no real reason aside from "the writer needs her to have a character conflict".
Another example would be in Kado : The right answer. Towards the middle of the anime a sudden revelation is made that a character is actually from an outer-dimension. This revelation was never hinted at and happened during a crisis wich essentially made it a deus ex machina or an asspull.

>>159967929
When you learn how to write (like in college, for example) you learn how to build the narrative depending on the story you want to tell and the dramatic effect your going for.

You can change things, but you have to know what's gonna happen if you do, how the audience is gonna respond. There's nothing random about this, technically speaking.

It's like keeping your characters consistent. It's not done just because. It's done because it serve to get a determined response from the audience.

>>159968048
First episode is ridden with stupid things. Second episode is actually pretty fucking good.

>>159968183
>tailoring your writing for your audience

Yeah, that's the only goal of writing. Nothing else.

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>case1: a cute uguuu moeblob
>case13: cold-blooded agent

Do you approve this character development?

>>159968204
>>159968164
Sounds good to me as long as its not atrocious yet. But you never know with okouchi.

>>159968225
Hint: the cute uguuu moeblob is just a facade.

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>>159968225
I wonder who's behind this transformation.

>>159967963
So in the end the AU Cornwall is in the East? That's kinda weird, but I guess it's the only thing that makes sense.

>>159968225
>case1 : cold-blooded agent with a cute uguuu moeblob persona
>case13 : cold-blooded agent
fix'd

>>159968225
Jokes on you, she has always been a cold-blooded moeblob!

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>>159968291
>>159968332
I hope not. It'd be more fun to see her gradually grow into the spy role.

>>159968218
It's not like that, since we're talking about elements of writing that aren't part of the story itself. Like a narrative is a structure formed by acts and such. It's not the story, it's what holds the story together.

Spy here. This show is terrible.

>>159967963
I think part of the confusion comes from the infographic making it sound like Morgan had plans to take his wife to Cornwall from the beginning when the episode makes it pretty clear that going to Cornwall was never part of the deal he had with the Duke, it only became an option for him when Ange talked to him.
That and there's at least one instance where the subs are wrong and flipped east and west.

>>159968327
No Cornwall is in the west, Ange/princess clearly says that at the start of her dance with Morgan.

>>159968398
Russians are not allowed here.

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>>159968398
How cheeky.

>>159968225
I'm pretty sure Beatrice did nothing here. They were all riding in the same car, Chise got out and handled them, they were all tied up and Chise took one with her as a hostage, leaving Beatrice behind. Sorry, Beatrice is mostly useless.

>>159968398
>Spy here
You mean SUPAI-DESU?

>>159968327
Cornwall is in the West.
The guy is from the West.
His wife is in the East, although originally from the West.
He is initially going to defect from the West to the East, him and his wife would be together in the East.
Ange offers instead of him going to the East, she can get his wife to the West, him and his wife would be in the West.
He takes this offer.
Then he gets shot.

>>159967798
It's only marginally above average in complexity, the problem is that the modern audience have been seriously addled by trivial gratification.

It's just like how /v/ermins call Crash Bandicoot the Dark Souls of platformer. Those kids have never played Klonoa or Pandemonium.

>>159968225
She's not that cold-blooded, she just knows what she's doing now. She was wanting to take Amy right away while the rest of them were being practical.

>>159968398
>lying on the internet

>>159967798
This show is literally Evangelion tier complicated.

>>159968503
>Crash Bandicoot the Dark Souls of platformer
Isn't that game critics rather than /v/?

>>159968218
Not the goal, the method. The goal is to tell a story. You would not write a Shakespearean for pre-schoolers, even if you want to impart similar aesop.

>>159968533
>spying on the internet
FTFY

>>159968472
Beatrice made the "bad guys" think the sister has disappeared from the hospital. That's useful enough in my book.

>>159968503
Don't.
Don't even dare to bring those /v/astards here.
They're the worst thing to ever happened to 4chan as a whole.

>>159967571
Even if the Duke has suspicions of the Princess, he would never implicate a member of the royal family.

>>159968421
>>159968497
Rewatched that scene, I get it now, I had assumed for some reason his wife was already in Cornwall.

As a side note, she says she's noticed from his way of speaking he's from West Country and I had assumed she means the Commonwealth, but she was talking about West Country, the geographical region of England. That's something you can miss easily if you're not familiar with bong geography.

>>159968593
Was that even useful? All they did was exit the room and immediately ran into Chise. Pretty sure that was useless too.

>>159968825
Chise had an ambush set up as they rushed out. It would have been far riskier trying to storm the room with them all guarding it.

>>159968820
Not a bong but you can figure that out without being one. She says welcome to the Kingdom so obviously she knew he was from there already, but the Commonwealth takes up the northern part of Albion as well so West Country had to be referring to geographical location. Were you the anon I was discussing the infographic with? I wasn't even done yet.

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A CUTE.

Anyone got an episode analysis chart like last week? I thought it was kinda cool to get a general interpretation of every episode.

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Name one thing that isn't a lie about Ange

Hardmode: Her virginity won't be counted because she's obviously not a virgin

>>159969030
just search the thread, anon.

>>159969032
She's a liar.

>>159968898
I don't think it was an ambush. She had a hostage prepared for negotiation and that narrow hallway is pretty awful avoiding bullets. If she made it inside the room she could have flash banged everyone at once instead of relying on Dorthy at the end.

>>159969050
Thanks, anon. Good work and pat on the backs for everyone.

>>159968398
KGB or CIA?

>>159968990
You can figure that out, but I obviously didn't back then. I didn't focus too much on it at the time, but later I wondered why all the sherlock bullshit only to deduce the Western diplomat comes from the West.

I'm a different anon.

>>159969080
They rush round a blind corner and run into her fully-prepared for them. The whole point of the ruse was to break the guard.

>>159969115
I am a rabbit. My mother and father were rabbits.

People separated from their birthplaces, families and communities torn apart. It's not hard to follow. This is a parallel to East and West Germany with the London wall playing the role of the Berlin wall.
Is London as a whole in East or West territory?
Berlin was in the east, but west Berlin was an island in the communist sea of East Germany.

>>159969276
I don't think that's the hard to follow part, if there was one.
even when they don't mention where are the places, it's obvious if they're a part of the kingdom or not. I want to know why is the commonwealth the "good guys", what makes the places different, and who would support each side in a World war.

>>159969276
London is split into an east and west side according to the jp website

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>>159969276
>>159969375
>>159969435
The centre of the divide curve seems to be somewhere around where modern day Richmond or Twickenham would be, if I had to guess, going by how they've drawn the Thames.

>>159969435
So London is smack dab on the border between the CW and the KM?

>>159965839
To brainlet like you, sure.

>>159967574
Star Wars Episode 4

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Find a flaw.

>>159969712
Wasn't even in episode 2.

>>159969712
Episode 2 was better because she wasn't in it.

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>>159969749
2ch says Chise is aimed at foreigners because she's Japanese (not even joking).

So you should like her.

>>159969712
Shitty unrealistic loli ninja cliché.
Fuck that shit.

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>>159969712
>Bringing a katana to an espionage job and possible gunfight
I don't even. At least train them in something like Bartitsu if you want to make them epic martial artists or something.

>>159969276
All of the City of London, and the rest of the center of London is in the East. Some of Greater London is in the West. Although it seems that the London Revolution ended up with London under the monarchy and everywhere else in a republic curiously enough.

>>159969786
>the only part of the show related to Japan
>aimed at foreigners
N-nani?

Why does Japan love Cornwall so much Bong-bros?

>>159969786
I need a link.

>>159969818
Low number of pakis.

>>159969786
And here I thought they shoehorned her in so it wouldn't get "too foreign" for Japanese audiences.

>>159969817
>contains Westerners
>aimed at gaijins
>Chise is Japanese
>aimed at gaijins too

Basically they're just bitter about the OP, that's all.

>>159969712
She's not sitting on my face.

>>159969930
Yeah pretty much.

>>159969808
See >>159969512. Everything in modern day Zone 1-3-ish is in the East, whilst at least part of western Zone 4 outwards seems to be in the West.

>>159969818
It's associated with King Arthur, I suppose? It's also fairly picturesque and one of the few places in the country with not-entirely-shit weather, you can surf there in the summer without entirely freezing your nads off.

>>159969919
Why do people hate the OP? It's fun and jazzy.
The ED is absolute trash.

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Still pacing around this from last week. What do you guys think, is she really actually aiming at her "friends" during the skyfall or is it a stylish outro from the OP. I'm playing very skeptical about this girl.

>>159969949
It's in English.

This show might not be as popular on 2ch, but Japanese sales thread chan seems obsessed with this show right now. They keep talking how the 2nd episode was so good that it jumped into the 200s on stalker. They also refer to 3hz as Noesta, which I eventually figured out means "Noel studio" and say stuff like "finally Noesta made a hegemony anime". And somebody said "don't say Noesta anymore, it should be Prista".

>>159964502
REMOVE REPUBLICAN SCUM

>>159969966
>made a hegemony anime
>hegemony anime

I have no fucking idea what this even means. Does hegemony have an alternate meaning when used in a non-political context?

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>>159969966
Noel?

>>159969959
>Real princess risking her life to protect the fake princess
Wonder why.

>>159969966
Well it means nothing if the jumping can't even hold for a day.

***,600位/***,562位 (***,*89 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/09/27 プリンセス・プリンシパル I (特装限定版) [Blu-ray]

>>159969959
I think betrayal from either side is inevitable.

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>>159970011
Never forget.

Celestial Method was a 3hz show.

Never forget just how terrible it was.

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>>159969818
Didn't you know Cornwall girl?

>>159970010

It's a term they use like "bakushi" (nuclear bomb victim) for shows that bombed. Hegemony means most sales in a season. Also the term Shotennou (four heavenly kings) is used for Top 4.

>>159969959
I'm almost certain Ange and the Princess will betray the rest of the team and the Commonwealth in general. I don't think Princess was lying about her wanting to become a Queen.

>>159964502
So should I call her Ange(Charlotte) or Charlotte(Ange) ?

>>159969712
New Etrian Odyssey game?

>>159970086
Ange is Ange(Charlotte), Princess is Charlotte(Ange).

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>>159970086
Yes, because this isn't inconvenient at all.

>predicted sales are 800
What the fuck happened?

>>159969959
It's definitely foreshadowing future conflicts. I'm interested as to why Beatrice appears to be against the princess.

>>159966089
Is that why Vatican Miracle Examiner only just got a show? I love that series but I guess that's only as a westerner

>>159970035
Go shoot yourself, fucking salesfag

>>159969959
I would bet both the West and the East are going to turn out to be pretty scummy. I wouldn't be surprised if the group ends up turning against each other, at least temporarily. Beatrice's loyalty could still lie with the East, Dorothy's presumably lies with the West and Ange and Charlotte might end up opposing both. Who knows about the samurai ninja loli.

>>159970146
>Foreign setting and characters
>Anime original
>Too convoluted for garden-variety otaku
There's no doing method.

>>159970195
Don't respond to a retard

>>159969966
That said, a lot of elevens are already calling it a 爆死
Might linking the nip thread?

>>159970155
>Sorry Beato, but Ange is the only friend I need

>>159969959
She's just aiming back to the camera, not at any one of the group. Beatrice wouldn't be loyal to Control over her, and she's still with the rest.

What is being suggested is Ange temporarily appearing to betray Princess, as hinted at by Princess briefly seeing her as a black lizard alien trying to eat her before she rescues her.

>>159970086
Call one Ange and the other Charlotte.

>>159969818
Arthurian Legend

Joker Game was a real spy show without ridiculous anime tropes and a more complex narrative and it still sold 7.5k. Maybe PriPri is just not very good.

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>a decent show
>people having good discussion

>REEEE LOOK AT THE AMAZON NUMBERS B-BECAUSE IT MUST MEAN SOMETHING!!!

When are they going to be gassed?

>>159970267
Sales decide whether or not a show is good. People vote with their wallets, and the free market will determine what is good and what isn't.

If #PriPri isn't selling well, this indicates that the market rejects, either in whole or in part, the show.

>>159970296
>#PriPri

Not this guy again.

>>159970263
Joker Game was shit though, hence why Japan liked it.

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>even the nips are acknowledging the beato bullying

Isn't Beatrice their friend?

>>159970296
Maybe you just angeposting but if not then I'm so sorry for you.

Even reddit with their MAL score worshiping are not this pathetic.

>>159970296
1. If you want to talk about 'sales' then bring up the numbers of other merchs because BD is nothing but a fraction of all revenues
2. BD itself doesn't matter as much as it used to, and will be even more irrelevant as time passes
3. Kill yourself

If the main cast was more varied I would have loved this show. Otherwise it's pretty ok so far.

>>159964683
>D shows her Ds
>Ange is immediately interested
Wowo who would've guessed?

>>159970320
She's the designated unlikable one.

Like brat from yuruyuri or suzuki from bakuon and such.

>>159970296
Popularity and quality are only tangentially related, many times even in reverse ratio with eachother.

>>159970435
Shhh, he is one of those deformed retards who worship BD numbers. Let him stay delusional

>>159970420
>Ange is a Victorian era royal
>Queen Victoria famously ignored legislation against lesbianism on the grounds that she "didn't believe it existed"
Deepest lore.

>>159967798
Its as complicated as Tanya the Evil.

>>159970426
There's nothing unlikable about her so far, she was just out of her league in this episode, I doubt it will be a long term trend.
>Rin
>unlikable
Get some fucking taste.

>>159970507
That's just some myth some lefty faggot went with when asked why they chose to have a "we're queer and exist" protest outside a statue of Queen Victoria. Labouchere just didn't consider it when writing the bill and parliament never discussed lesbianism when passing it long before going to the Queen and asking her to sign.

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There are lots of Spy in mobile game version.

>>159970296
>Sales decide whether or not a show is good
So Granblue is AOTY? Surely you jest.

I can't have enough of sexy Dorothy.

>>159970789
Another reason why this series has another way to make money rather than BD sales.

>>159970836
>>159970862

BD these days is nothing more than a 'buy one and get two' for seiyuu event tickets or some special social game items. Feels sorry for bunch of airheads worshiping it

>>159970836
>fueling that one 3Hz hater
Yes, this is the same guy who shitposted endlessly on FliFla threads about the sales and stuff. Do not feed.

>>159970836
Granblue is not AOTY, Touken Ranbu is.