What is the best shoujo manga and why is it Fruits Basket?

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that's not Oresama teacher

If you want to actually talk about shoujo manga then make a thread without a bait OP.
If you want to shitpost go somewhere else.

I like shoujo but sometimes I find their paneling and dialog box organization incomprehensible. I felt like this with Furuba but Gakuen Alice is the worst offender and the ridiculously convoluted story doesn't help.

>>159923632
>i don't personally like this post so it must be shitposting

>>159923810
Who are you quoting?

>>159923898
>(You)

>>159923508
Why did the art turn to shit halfway through the manga? Is it because of how the author needed to be hospitalized or something?

>>159923508
best reverse harem i read

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Shoujo just can't do romance right.Find me just one shoujo that can touch that.

>>159925976
tonari no kaibutsu-kun

>>159923508
Taiyou no Ie is the best shoujo manga

>>159926263
>tonari no abusive rapist-kun

Nope. Not even close.

>>159925976
Cardcaptor Sakura.

>>159923508
I remember reading this a long time ago but the wait for translated chapters made me forget it even existed.
Thank you for reminding me.

>>159923961
Didn't she break her hand?

>>159926352
Never understood the hype around this series. It's cute, but it's far from being the best.

I wish colette wa shinu koto ni shita would get more attention.

>>159926352
>>159926647
Please kill yourselves.

>>159927151
Why?

>>159923508
Good taste, OP.
>>159927151
>Hating on Colette
Why?

>>159923735
>Gakuen Alice
That's just Higuchi's style. She just likes to shove a fuck ton of dialogue into her manga.

>>159923508
Ah furuba, a story about a man setting everything on fire so that he could fuck a woman.

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To the anon with access to RaffManga in the previous awful, shoujo thread that I wasn't able to reply to before the thread got archived: If you actually read the (then) latest raws, you would have known that Akari's ex was in no way set up to be a romantic obstacle later on.

Also Yuna a cute! The purest and most precious cute!

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>>159923735
Fetish Berry was like this. The premise sounds original (MC has a fetish for hands) but it plays like the usual shoujo cliché. The panelling is a mess and the dialogue is really boring.
The love triangle is ridiculous because you know exactly who the winner is but the loser gets to date her at some point and he doesn't deserve what happens to him.
I followed it for her friend, I have a weakness for wavy black hair.

>>159927786
Has there ever been a love triangle in a shoujo manga where the winner wasn't really obvious?

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>>159927866
Plenty.

>inb4 josei

>>159925976
I'll read that, thanks

I agree with you. There is more to romance than "guy likes girl and she likes him back, but misunderstandings everywhere until they finally get together"

I liked Natsu no Zenjitsu. It was very real, so a lot of people hated it.

Hetakoi was also a good one. It presents relationships in a realistic way.

>>159927866
Vampire Knights maybe? Zero lost really hard even if he got his dick wet.

>>159927967
What even happened with that series? Last I heard the mc had kids to both love interests.

>>159923508
Because it's Rose of Versailles.

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>>159928157
>Kaname knocks his sister before giving his heart to the furnace.
>Yuuki gives birth to a daughter and raises her with Zero (lel).
>Both of them meet often and remember the past, mostly Kaname, Zero keep being blueballed for years, until Yuuki's friend Yori, now a very old lady, tells them to stop fucking around and get together before passing away.
Then there's a flash forward 1000 years after where Kaname wakes up as a human, and is being taken care of by his daughter and Zero's kid.
It was both sad, irritating and hilarious seeing Zero suffering like that, but the love triangle dragged on for too much. He really should have told her to go fuck herself and found himself another girl.
Oh, and the daughter fell in love with Zero too, before falling on her brother. Vampires are degenerates.

The only thing that kept me watching was Aidou getting his waifu.

>>159923508
>Babbys first shoujo

Akatsuki no Yona and Natsume Yuujinchou shit all over Fruits Basket.
Not to mention the masterpiece that is Versailles no Bara.

>>159928339
What this anon said exactly.

Shoujo mangas are absolute shallow shit nowadays. The vintage ones are far more solid

>>159927786
>but the loser gets to date her at some point and he doesn't deserve what happens to him.
This. fuck that shit.

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Shoujo manga is forced drama bullshit with annoying characters.
seriously everytime i try to read this shit i just get angry at the characters for their autism and overall retardedness

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>Shoujo thread
>No Skip Beat

Disgusting.

>>159931903
I remember dropping it when there was a talk about Ren's boring past and fairies.
What did I miss?

>>159926540
Something happened with hand, I don't remember what. But indeed, after that the art went potatoface.

>>159931903
But skip beat manga has been disgusting for years

>>159927866
The OP.

>>159931903
skip beat is trash

>>159927866
>what is Honey and Clover

>>159932172
Why is it trash?

>>159923508
It's a must see, both, the anime and manga
and BnB is not shoujo

>>159927920
But we all know who deserves to win.

>>159932495
I know who deserves to win, but I don't know if you know.

>>159923735
>Gakuen Alice
Oh god, i am actually triggered by this. The beginning was fun and fluffy, but then they went full derped by going all serious and dramatic with the mother. I regretted ever starting reading that manga. Last I heard, there was a time-skip and even more edge and drama.

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>>159932495
Obviously everyone knows that Taichi should win.

>>159932620
It ended a while ago. Hotaru sacrifices herself for Mikan in the end.

>>159932542
I know who better win, don't worry.

>>159932620
I remember reading it in elementary school and followed it for awhile after. I'm pretty sure I dropped it when the mom was too involved in the story and it added too many unnecessary elements. Ruka was best boy but I'm pretty sure he didn't win.

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>>159932495
All I know is that Taichi deserves to win meijin.

>>159932620
The time skip didn't cause any edge or drama (in that definition). In the spinoff about Tsubasa's sister, they're currently hanging out at the sister school that produces theater drama instead of searching for Hotaru.

>>159932854
Didn't the search for Hotaru ended when they realized they could travel in time to meet her but Hotaru couldn't come into the future? I remember something along the lines of that.

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Is she the best shoujo writer?

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>>159932667
ITS BEEN 4 MONTHS WHERE ARE MY CHAPTERS

>>159932667
>should
*shouldn't
Fixed this for you.

>>159933007
The scanlators don't have the raws for 181-182 so they have no choice but to wait for the volume. You're gonna have to wait another month.

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>Love triangle
>Main boy (and childhood friend) is a popular and aggressive douche
>but lol he's so narcissic and stupid so funny so it's ok
>Rival is the nice guy
>He's not some literally who, he's in the main character's circle and slowly develops genuine feelings for MC
>Misunderstandings everywhere. The cunt is confused by her feelings for the douche and turns to the rival
>They go out/pretend to go out to chase the douche away but you know it won't happen and best boy will be heart broken
It's always the same formula whenever I give most shoujo manga a try. Is this bitch the only woman in this planet? Why are love triangles so stupid? Why can't we have multiple OTPs with minimal drama where these cunts aren't the center of attention of every hot guy in their school?

I liked KareKano better, but I also love Fruits Basket.

>>159932161
>The OP
>After the villa gathering Yuki fucks off to "solve his problems" and doesn't interact with Tohru for almost the entirety of the later half of the manga

It was pretty clear that Yuki wasn't endgame.

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>>159933043
You should fix your taste first.

>>159933202
Tohru and Cat is a perfect couple. Mom was right at leaving her girl to the Tsundere

>>159933197
grills are sic of this shit too, it's why Josei is the best.

>>159927576
There's a lot of characters anon, this description is not helping.

>>159932950
Is that in the spinoff? I've only been following the Chinese scanlations so I'm not sure what actually goes on in it.

>>159932129

Why didn't she just become ambimonstrous then?

>>159933438
Dog was the real main antagonist.

>>159933565
I thought was the curse on Kyo

>>159932763
>Hotaru sacrifices herself for Mikan in the end.
Well then, glad I dropped it and never looked back.

>>159933417
Too many shoujo series where the girl solely exist to be in a relationship with a guy.

>>159933671
Hotaru doesn't die, she just gets lost in time. And Mikan and Hotaru were too gay, the author had to separate them if tsundere fire guy was ever going to have a chance.

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>>159923508
I like Furuba but bruh

>>159933726
>if tsundere fire guy was ever going to have a chance.
Considering the sheer amount of plot contrivances I've seen in giving him a ludicrous amount of chances for Mikan-bowl, I don't see why they would need to give him more.

>>159931903
>This shit's been running since 2002

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>>159933417
>josei is the best
Josei has its fair share of horrible plots and terrible main characters too, like this homewrecker in this manga. Women defend her in their forums too.

>>159933726
>Mikan and Hotaru were too gay
Took me awhile to realize this but it makes sense.

>>159933197
It really bothers me how like 90%, actually maybe 95% really, of every single shoujo has the love triangle be with a "nice" guy and "jerk but he's got a heart of gold" guy. Like holy shit. Even shounen and seinen don't have this be their solitary character archetypes.

Fuck Boys over Flowers

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>>159933565
You do what it takes to win. He even has a cute kid now (male) (female)

>>159933417
>it's why Josei is the best.
Shoujo is cliche but josei is fucking rage-inducing

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>>159933871
That's why I'm really enjoying Anitomo. The nice guy is the love interest while the jerk is the heroine's brother and already has a girl to bully. He's also best boy and best girl.
The rival is boring though.

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>>159933417
Not really. I'm hoping Mizusawa will go back to writing shoujo manga after her latest series because it's wasting its story potential about a 36-year-old grandmother on a contrived love triangle.

Same for Nakahara Aya.

>>159933871
I will never for the life of me get Boys over Flowers hype. I get why its adapted into so many Asian dramas because it's cheesy but thinking of all the abuse in a live action adaption is such a turn off. I rather see Itazura na Kiss live action series.

>>159934136
Actually, I think in Hanadan's case the jdrama is better than the manga. Matsujun has incredible charisma and makes it work.

Guess I should read Nigeru wa Haji da ga Yaku ni Tatsu.

>>159934136
Itazura na kiss love in tokyo was absolute garbage.

>>159934190
I might watch that one then. I stopped pretty early because it was unbearable to watch but I do want to watch at least one of its series.

>>159933871
I've heard that Domyouji wasn't originally planned to be with Tsukushi and that the author didn't even like him that much, but I could never find a reliable source

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Picked fruits basked up after remembering I watched the anime ages ago and this shit is basically sad backstories and pitiable characters porn and I love it

>>159934136
It's getting another drama adaption soon.

>>159934136
The abuse is toned down in all the adaptations. The anime was the only one that made the abuse (and everything) more dramatic and it's hilarious. I don't care for Hana Yori Dango but I love the anime.

>>159935274
I think the attempted gang rape happened when the author didn't really think of Domyouji as a potential love interest and gave him the role of the villain. Later, when he does become a love interest, he's still a douche, but he's a funny douche and he gradually gets better over the course of the series. Honestly I think adaptations should just get rid of that scene, it happens very early on and doesn't really fit with the rest, and it's the reason why the series gets such a bad rep when on the whole, it's actually not worse than average with regards to abuse.

>>159934190
>Hanadan's case the jdrama is better than the manga
This. MatsuJun is the Tsukasa.

>>159933871
> "nice" guy
> Hana Yori Dango

Do you mean Rui? He was shit as fuck in the beginning, better than Domyouji of course. But i like the character development of Rui and Domyouji.

>>159932161
>Literally says in the early chapters that her favorite zodiac animal was the cat
> Cat's a main character
Look I like Furuba but that one was kind of obvious

>>159933871
It's not that hard to find shoujo manga that don't have asshole love interests. Of course, I don't know whether you're restricted to what's being scanlated or not.

>>159931847
perhaps it's just you who is autistic

>>159933907
Wait, do we know for sure the kid was like how Akito was?

Also, though i like seeing the future kids, I just wish Another wasn't a slideshow of Sohmas per chapter and I really want to know what's going on with Sawa.

>>159923508
>Fruits Baske
>best
Hold the fuck on. If you did actually read it you would know how awful the ending was. How all her friends got fucked by people way older than them. Her goth friend got a man who was in his 60s because she had a fetish for that or something. There was also the rape and all the terrible plot. It is a shitty terrible series.

>>159935417
It's been awhile since one was made.

>>159935470
They really couldn't have made it without toning it down. Dramas are especially full of abuse but Hana Yori Dango had more than its fair share. It was funny in the anime because honestly, they looked goofy.

>>159936352
>Her goth friend got a man who was in his 60s
I don't think they actually got together, it seemed more like a one sided thing. Although it's been years since I read it so I could be wrong.

>>159936426
Nope they actually did the guy was like well whatever.

>>159936352
>How all her friends got fucked by people way older than them.
How is that a bad thing?

>>159923602
fpbp

>>159936352
Takaya had a bad case of Pair the Spares with furuba, it was like all the main characters had to be with someone.

>>159936352
I rather keep my nostalgia glasses clouded. . Especially when I went through a shoujo romance phase of teacher student relationships. Never again. The anime was great.

>>159931903
The Detective Conan of shoujo manga

>>159936465
Not in my shoujo mango. It's fine in my doujinshi but they have to be rich, bald, and hairy. That's the purest form of love.

>>159936690
But agegap romances are great!

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>>159923508
Best shoujo reporting in.

>>159933197
I don't think Fruits Baskets is the best shoujo but I think it was one of the few that did love triangles right (if not the only one)

>two interest came at approximately the same time
>there's no indication who she will go after in the end
>both of them are equally likable
>there's an actual reason why they are with the MC
>MC isn't trying to play them up not even subconsciously
>best guy won at the end
>loser was given a normal relationship

if other series were like FB I wouldn't despise love triangles so much.

>>159936739
I've grown out of age gap shoujo ones. Mainly because I've grown out of the demographic and now the age of the older guy and can't imagine dating a high schooler at my age. It's all about 20 something year old ladies with even older men now.

Skip Beat was only good when it was Glass Mask-lite.

>>159936812
"Yuki never liked Tohru, she was just her replacement mommy" was a bit cheap, though.

>>159936812
>loser was given a normal relationship
This especially is a big bonus. So many series end with the loser still pining for MC and implied to never get the fuck over her. Sometimes they'll get a consolation prize in the last few chapters and it's so rushed you don't even get how or why he falls for her when he hasn't got over MC, which is actually even worse.

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Nozaki-kun is god tier. Plus, best pairing.

>>159936929
I wonder if glass mask will ever continue now that the mangaka's started a cult.

>>159937044
> no harem shit
> all pairings are good

The world needs more of this.

>>159936985
yeah it kinda was

but then again the "actual reason" was basically her becoming their caretaker.

Are there many shoujo isekai manga? What are they about?

I read one some time ago and it was about a girl who got reincarnated as the antagonist bitch in an otome game. I think it was decent, but I can't find it anymore.

>>159936812
Fruits Basket's characters make the series shine.

>>159936985
Did she do this for Momoji? I feel like she should have since his love for Tohru was more of an infatuation than love. Plus she is kind and caring like a mom plus the first non family member girl to know him.

>>159937293
Kanata Kara and Red River are the first two that spring to mind.

>>159937293
>>159937384
I read Red River like a decade ago. It was fun.

>>159937293
Never heard of Fushigi Yugi?
There's Kanata Kara, which is actually good.

>>159937044
Best pairing is still me and Mikorin

>>159937293
most "classic" Isekai are shoujo

go to MU, look up "transported to another world" and most of those that don't have the "based on a novel" tag are usually shoujo (haven't read any of them though so I can't name one off the top of my head).

I liked Akatsuki no Yona's anime. Is the manga worth reading? Does best boy Hak win da Yonabowl?

>>159937557
The manga gets even better after the point where the anime ends. And yes, there's even been a kiss already.

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>>159923508
>What is the best shoujo manga
You know the answer

>>159937293
>I read one some time ago and it was about a girl who got reincarnated as the antagonist bitch in an otome game.

there's so many LNs with that premise it became a genre onto itself. Seems the progenitor of it is a series called "Kenkyo, Kenjitsu o Motto ni Ikite Orimasu" but the MC reincarnated as a shoujo manga villain instead of an otome game one.

>>159937293
Reminds me of Common sense of a dukes daughter

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>>159937633
I'll pick it up, then.

>>159936294
I'm joking mostly, their kid is probably a little boy. I'm surprised Akito had kids at all, but she was around 21 when she got with Shigure so there was still some time for a mental recovery.
Another is a fanservice manga in the end, obviously the Sohmas will be the focus.

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>ctrl f
>no Hana Kimi
Y'all need to find Jesus.

>>159938764
Anime adaption when? It wouldn't work unless they constantly remind people its takes place in the 90s. Sugita as Shuichi would be a dream come true.

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>>159939118
>Anime adaption when?
Anon, stop living in a dream. It's never going to happen, and even if it did we'd never get the full thing, some bullshit anime original ending where there's no confession. We probably wouldn't even get them cuddling in bed while watching horror movies.

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Anybody else miss when mahou shoujo were actually shoujo? Now they're just all aimed at the otaku. Feels like Shugo Chara was the last major one

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>>159937293
How could you forget one of the OG isekais?

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>>159937054
tell me more

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>>159923508
my favorites are kokou debut and beauty pop

>>159939832
Apparently, she started some sort of religion that focus on spirituality.

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>>159923508

>>159940113
>Forbidden sex with my boyfriend's father! "My boyfriend's in the next room over, yet his father is forcing it inside me..." One day, Hinako meets an older man and cheats on her boyfriend with him... only to find out that he's actually her boyfriend's father! "I know it's wrong, but my body feels so hot and wet. I want 'him...'" What's going to happen in this dangerous love triangle?!

Sounds like a 10/10 manga.

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Anyone ever read Beauty is the Beast
>heroine is a fangirl of/in love with school's resident alpha
>she believes second guy is also a fan
>friendzones into infinitum
>retaliates by telling her that alpha has a gf
>she's an autist
>gives guy photos of his love rival

Matsumoto Tomo manga always pick one cuck character to brutalize (except the current manga, "Inferno", which is trash and everyone's a cuck).

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>>159923602
They better get her together with takaomi in the end and not go into a dramatic love triangle with that other male lead.

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>>159940614
I like the playboy x loli pair.

>>159937824
So that premise is the girl equivalent of the Demon King adventure stories.

>>159925976
nana

>>159937293

Fushigi Yuugi, Magic Knight Rayearth, and Escaflowne are all excellent; those played a big role in getting me into isekai in the first place. Twelve Kingdoms is josei but still worth watching.

I wish it was still more common; the fantasy shoujo I'm reading these days (Akatsuki no Yona and Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii) aren't even isekai.

I don't like using that word, but had there been a shoujo series turning into a trainwreck like Nanoka no Kare? At this I'm just enjoying the ride.
The author should get an editor who can restrain her in her next work.

>>159941919
>anon unironically lists things that are isekai but not the "isekai" that the poster refers to
Dense-kun

>>159942346
>train derails at chapter 12
>still calling it a wreck 68 chapters later

It's more like one of those abandoned overgrown ruin sites that hipster douchebags take pictures of.

>>159941805
>Ren dead
>Reina and (good)Nana go insane

It ain't romance anymore nigga.

>>159939546
And I didn't even like Shugo Chara growing up.

>>159923508
>all the cousins wanted to fuck each other

Yes great shoujo there

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>>159941919
>Fushigi Yuugi
Is that the good one, or the one where the heroine is constantly molested? Whatever happened to Byakko Senki anyways?

>>159942711
Don't see what the problem is.

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>>159942711
>April 1st is the day when the world is full of lies, however to Kouta, it is his precious imouto’s birthday. His father returned that day after a long time away and told him: “Actually Kouta… you have 364 other imoutos”. He was still confused when his father brought him to Tachibana Gakuen. He was the only guy at the school. The other 365 students were… all his imoutos.

>>159939350
Even if there were an anime they wouldn't adapt the side story about the school nurse. He deserved happiness even if it wasn't with the guy he wanted.

>>159942711
Most of them spent time with their family because of the curse preventing them from meeting people of the opposite gender. Can't blame her for the cousin lust.

>>159936985
I don't see the problem. Plenty of people want to fuck, marry, and breed with their mother figures

>>159942848
None of them were first grade cousins anyway

>>159936812
>>there's no indication who she will go after in the end
This is how a love triangle is done wrong. What's the fucking point without foreshadowing? It means the bitch can flip on a dime.

>>159927920
Arata will get with Chihaya while Taichi gets the Meijin title. It's so obvious.

>>159927920
Except the winner is obvious.

I used to really love Marmade Boy back then, it's probably not as good as I remember it to be though.

>>159928587
Yuuki fucks Zero (years later) and gives birth to his son too though.
When Zero dies she kills herself and brings Kaname back to life.

>>159927920
>odds of Taichi winning are .00001%
>not obvious
Have a (You).

>>159934091
>implying a Chad-kun isn't imminent

>>159942887
Weren't some first cousins?
Also I didn't know there was a spin off manga.

>>159943036
Forgot to add that she marries Zero, if that wasn't obvious. And now the mangaka has a new manga with Kaname hearing stories about how he got cucked from his daughter and Zero's son.

>>159942413
You made me reread that chapter just now and I miss their cute interactions.

But nah, that's the usual overblown drama. "waa my ex bf forced a kiss on me and I can't say that to my crush" leading to misunderstandings and stretched for like 25 chapters.
The train derailed when Takato transferred school and got to sit next to the her. It went downhill very fast from that point. Seriously, what was the author thinking? She could easily have ended it when Hayata and Nanoka got together again, the heroine gained confidence in herself and was pretty badass compared to how she was in the first chapters. What a waste.

>>159943122
I'm pretty sure it was stated early on that none of them were closely related, they just called each other cousins for simplicity's sake.

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>Hatenkou Yuugi
>same author as Maria Holic
>ongoing since 1999
>slow progress (only 18 volumes)
>male and female lead have slow, subtle romance
>2015
>she timeslips
>falls madly in love with his dad
>first love
>wants to become male lead's stepmom and stay in the past

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
why do they do this?

>>159943006
Isn't there a continuation now? Or am I just imagining things?

>>159943199
>waa my ex bf forced a kiss on me and I can't say that to my crush
That's always funniest when it results in
>"You have to do what I say or I'll tell him"
and results in fingerfucking, kissing, and maybe just the tip.
It's even more nonsensical and unnecessary when the author is less ballsy but wants to do the same tropes so it becomes
>"you better do what I say or I'll tell him about how you hung out with me and kept it a secret"

>>159943208
I might need to re-watch and re-read. It's been awhile. Might do that then read Fruits Basket Another. I was sure she would do a spin off since her other series didn't do so well.

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>>159943122
It's called "Fruits Basket Another" but only their kids show up.
The new generation is mostly made of non-Sohmas anyway, only Hiro and Kisa, Akito and Shigure and Rin and Haru are Sohma couples.

>>159943125
Zero got cucked harder. He was the second option to fall on. If Kaname didn't die, Yuuki would still be with him while eyefucking the poor loser and rubbing it in his face.

>>159943331
There is: Marmade Boy little.
it's garbage.

>>159943261
This is amazing.

>>159943331
Yeah and it's trash
>Muh twin isn't blood related to me?? ??
>Is actually in love with me?? ??
>Even though I already like someone else?? ??
>He keeps making passes at me at home? ???
>Waa he took his shirt off muh puberty i didn't know he was a man muh voice changing !
>Now I love my brother who I though was my literal twin until a few months ago
>Sorry for stringing you somewhat along crush-kun
>Oh wait, you like me too? ?!?!?
>Oh nooooooooooooooooo!!!

Couple from the last manga still don't fucking have kids after 13 years too.

>>159943435
>Zero got cucked harder.
I'd agree but he stole Kaname's daughter's heart too.

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>plebs jacking off to old man NTR
>could be jacking off to shoujo NTR

>>159943409
Thanks anon. Since the curse was lifted half the fun and drama are gone.

>>159943435
He got to fuck her for years and years and years. Much more than Kaname ever did. Kaname was her first so she'd only be able to compare Zero to him, and your first is almost always painful, so Kaname could never reach the apex of pleasure that she received from Zero.

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>Gakuen Alice
>love triangle definitively won by black-hair
>final page is her running into the sunset holding hands with both
fucking slut. die.

>>159943892
>gets both guys but not her waifu
This is some bullshit.

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>>159927786
>The love triangle is ridiculous because you know exactly who the winner is
I've already finished the raws, but when I read the scanlation to where it got dropped, it really seemed like the male lead would end up with the fujoshi (heavily foreshadowed the start of her developing feelings for him) and the female lead would get btfo and fall into her childhood friend safety net. I saw at least a 30% chance of that happening. Third girl was totally unexpected. Nigger basically ended that shit with a harem.

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>>159927866
There was Hirunaka no Ryuusei, where it seemed like a close race throughout. Luckily best boy one, but then fans of the other guy bitched out the author about the outcome.

>>159943808
Well shit.

>>159937293
Does Inu Yasha count?

>>159944254
The author deliberately and intentionally created a false narrative. There was no indication of this beforehand so naturally people were pissed. It's like Usagi Drop's ending. The entire manga was designed to reach a different ending, but the mangaka decided to write a twist just because.

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Dear Mine was pretty cute, for those of you into /ss/

>>159944254
>but then fans of the other guy bitched out the author about the outcome.

Yeah because they made the guy hung up on her for the next 7 years and then fall in love with a lookalike. Fucking pathetic wish fulfillment shit (girls want the guy they rejected to stay in love with them, in case you didn't already know).

>>159944254
>best boy won
But sensei didn't win.

>>159944254
I found that manga pretty boring but I can see why people were upset. The tsundere was not really trying.
The uncle was based though, I don't know why people were trashtalking him in the previous thread, he reacted like every parent/father figure react to discovering that their friend was flirting with their underage daughteru.

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>>159944499
Too bad their new manga is race mixing propaganda.

>>159942760
>365 fucking children
This is some Sinbad shit

>>159944619
>he reacted like every parent/father figure react to discovering that their friend was flirting with their underage daughteru
Realism is not why people read this stuff.
>"You're forty and she's 13?"
>"Well, love is love"
Is the proper parental response in shoujo manga.

>>159943261
What the heck even happened with Maria Holic anyway? Does Kanako get with Maria, god forbid?

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Dear School Gang Leader is funny, but I think it's been on hiatus for quite a while.

>>159943409
I thought top left was Yuki. Was I wrong?

>>159944718
I'm pretty sure I read that's what happened. Damn shame.

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>>159944714
Keep telling yourself that.

>>159944780
Fuck me I meant top right

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Tsukuba Sakura writes some good stuff, I believe Penguin Revolution and Mekakushi no Kuni were her longest series and the rest is mostly oneshots.

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>>159944718
The ending is fucking hilarious.
>Mariya(Shizu) wins everything
>Shizu(Mariya) rejects Kanako
>Kanako spends Christmas alone in her dorm room(dressed as santa) while the rest of the main cast are celebrating together

>>159944666
/pol/ please, not everything has to be a propaganda.

>>159944499
Multiple people had to approve of this for this to get green lit. You always see the young girl going for the much older guy. The time is now for /ss/.

>>159944666
I'll read it.

>>159944870
>Mekakushi no Kuni
Ruined by retard love triangle-kun. The manga was basically over in the first volume but we got a relationship reset and 7 more volumes of filler and love triangles, only to reach the same point they reached in volume one.

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Beauty Pop has a based feMC, sadly lacking a bit in the romance area (but there's still romance).

>>159944883
It was a jok. You really think I'd have a stitched together flirty page if I didn't like it?

>>159923508
That would be Akatsuki no Yona if not for "He murdered my father, but he's still honorable and all around nice guy overall" shit.

>>159944971
My mistake then.
I wish they continued their trip around the world and didn't go to India. The political conflict is dragging for too long and Neelam looks silly with his turban on and I want Jeanne back.

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Nagareboshi Lens was decent, although the drawings were a little too shoujo for me and there's lots of sameface. But it's been a long time since any new chapters were scanlated.

>>159944943
Fuck her female friend though.

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V.B Rose is good. Sadistic second male lead (who is refreshingly uninterested in the female lead) is great.
>We'll never get english scans Sekai de Ichiban Daikirai
>Sekai de Ichiban Daikirai's spinoffs will never be translated

Shoujo is best with a lot of characters and couples and divided screentime That way the heroine doesn't get fellated so much.

>>159944797
But why? They're the shittiest fit for each other even if Maria seemed to be nicer in later volumes. I can only imagine that her hives went away at some point for this to happen as well.

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>>159945218
I hate how shoujo manga taking place in societies where polygamy is the norm, always end up with monogamy. Narim is obviously gonna end up monogamous and never free India from the brits, but like other manga about girls in literal harems and concubines end with monogamy.
Which completely kills my suspension of disbelief because he'd totally be fucked if he didn't produce enough offspring or make political connections via the gifting of daughters.

It can actually be done well too. Like in Shougyokuden. If you haven't read Shougyokuden, heroine is the 4th wife or something but the queen-consort, and has to manage the other consorts and the male lead's children. It's very realistic and politically intriguing.

>>159944880
Christ, that sounds depressing. On Kanako's part at least.

And that last bit on the page, please don't tell me that's what I think it meant.

>>159944780
Top left = Akito and Shigure's kid
Top right = Hatori and Mayu's kid
the two in the bottom are Ayame's kids.

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>>159945507
What are you anons talking about? She was never into Mariya(m), but Shizu(f). She asked Shizu out and got BTFO and then pretended it was just because she was "sorting out her feelings". It was hilarious and Kanako stayed a completely pathos character until the very end.

>>159940614
The latest chapter got so dark. Murdered children, burnt down school and a guy with a mental disorder

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>>159923508
>not cat street
>>159933730
>>159936793
great taste

>>159945601
>please don't tell me that's what I think it meant.
Nah it's just Kanako's delusional rationalizations.

>>159945721
>goes out with boy
>cares more about other boy while dating him
>still kisses boy
>breaks up to chase after other boy
sluts.

>>159944536
Patrician taste

>>159945721
>ends up with the geeky introvert rather than the sporty extrovert
I was mildly surprised and pleased.

I liked Taiyou no Ie, anyone else read that?

>>159944254
And the fans of Mamura bitched out on Twitter when the second to last chapter was released and they thought he lost.

Sensei fans had a right to be upset with the shit ending he got and on top of that she had the balls to have him hung up on Suzume seven years later?

Her treatment of Sensei even in the extra chapters was unfair and she obviously did it to appease fans since he unpopular with them and her assistants. Her new work is has another age gap relationship and this time the Sensei is for sure set to win. She obviously has a thing for age-gap relationships.

>>159945932
Dropped it as soon as the glasses brother was revealed to be in love with the MC as well. Too many boys lusting over such a plain girl. Wish it would have just stayed a nice story between her and the guy whos house she stayed at but shoujos just can't keep away from introducing more and more love interests.

>>159945721
>best boy lost
Nope.
>>159932667
Excellent taste.

>>159945550
Eh, the harem shit came out later on, so I can forgive the manga for not going in that direction. I also think Neelam will hand the throne to either his brother or his son when he grows up.
>Shougyokuden
Will check that out, thanks.

>>159945932
Author's new series is shit
>male lead's overprotective best friend tries to steal male lead's girlfriend (female lead) while male lead is working a job to provide for his brothers and sisters

I'm okay with more people reading good shoujo, but a lot of good shoujo is untranslated. Anyone else have access to Otakumole? When did that site turn into such a shithole?

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>>159940745
PROBABLY one of the funniest chapters in the entire manga.

>>159944254
I'm still angry about how the autor resolved it. You don't suddenly leave what you're doing in the middle of your 3-day trip to Okinawa and get on plane to tell a guy you loved him IN THE PAST. It's not something life-threatening and she could have waited till she was back. That was bullshit.

>>159946137
>Anyone else have access to Otakumole?
Yes. I love posting misogynistic /pol/ shit in the disqus comments and watching the landwhales go wild.
>When did that site turn into such a shithole?
When they got scared and overreacted after receiving a single DMCA notice?

>>159946186
Add in the fact that she left during her first real date with Mamura and that she all of a sudden realized that he was the one she loved despite constantly thinking of Shishio during their relationship and even confused some random guy with him said date? The mangaka should've developed the relationship between her and Mamura more, but instead put it on the backburner for the shitty love triangle.

>>159946137
>Nanoka no Kare TL up in 2 hours after chapter drops
>Otana no Kobayashi-kun and the PSME sequel going on almost a year without a translation

14 year-old bilingual nip girls have no taste.

>>159946137
>Anyone else have access to Otakumole?
I'd been following it since the days of raffmanga, when they just posted the images on the blog with small or no watermarks, and it was open to everyone.
I only ever used it for 7seeds and Yona, but 7seeds just ended and nowadays Yona gets scanlations faster than the raws, so.

>>159946334
I'm guessing she didn't bother developing it because she was originally planning a sensei endgame.

>>159946473
But why would she change it? Mamura previously was a bg character, he got that popular?

>>159946473
>delusion.txt

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>>159946024
>Implying Kouichi isn't the best boy

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>>159944499
If you like /ss/ you NEED to read Please Save My Earth.
>18 year old female lead
>they start officially dating when he's 9
>in the sequel (about their kids) it's revealed that he impregnated her when he was 15

It's also, on it's own, one of the best ESP and reincarnation manga series I've ever read. First part is 12 volumes, sequel is 15, and the sequel to that is currently still in serialization.

>>159946515
Yes Mamura was super popular among the fanbase. Even her own assistants hated Shishio and she mentions this in some crossover special chapter.

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https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=35637

There might be an editor for this, but I'll probably scan this in a few days if anyone's interested. The synopsis reads like an episode of Days of Our Lives, but I trust the author enough.

>>159946473
I think she planned the Mamura endgame, but wrote the manga like she'd planned a sensei endgame. Like Usagi Drop. It's bait and switch.

>>159946515
I think it's more like people didn't like sensei because of the age difference + he's her teacher.
I didn't particularly like Mamura but I was okay with him winning because sensei was a creep.

>>159946727
>mamura still felt insecure towards shishio despite being with suzume for about 6/7 years
what the fuck was that?

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>>159946656
I miss sadistic Rin. I know he has the whole "muh never experienced childhood so now he's experiencing it as an adult" going for him, but the times he's genuinely sadistic and cruel (above Shion levels) are amazing.

>>159946656
I have read PSME and its sequel, didn't know there was another sequel.

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>>159923508

>>159946817
I think there's a specific trope somewhere about how when time passes off-screen it's only their bodies that change.

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>>159946656
PSME is amazing. I reread it every other year, still impressed with the narrative structure and how it hooks me all over again.

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>>159946929
The level of cucking Gyokuran had to deal with from Shion still makes me chuckle
>hfw Gyokuran was seeing her as Kiches

Laughed out loud as soon as his "nice guy" facade came crashing down.

>>159946240
Are you Rozzak?

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>>159947379
True love.

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>>159947450

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>>159947451
That scene was pretty cute. Shion took himself so seriously but he was actually kind of a dork.
(Though Shion was pretty hung up on the kiches thing too, in his own way. Poor Mokuren.)

>>159923508
It's not.

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>>159947489
I love you.

>>159936572
Momiji and Kagura didn't.
>>159936352
I don't remember any rape shit.
>>159933438
I thought it was obvious it was Shigure.

>>159947823
Shigure did some things nothing wrong

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Just reread Himitsu no Ai-chan, I thought it was still good. Characters seem pretty self-aware about being in a shoujo romance, and there aren't really any misunderstandings because they actually talk things out. Still has its cliches, but that comes with the genre. Sadly, the last scanlation came out over two years ago.

>>159947562
>Though Shion was pretty hung up on the kiches thing too

I thought that that was because he wanted to be as cruel as possible, because he believed that she was a hypocrite and didn't want to be treated differently because of it, while still wanting to have it.

Did they ever give an explanation (not just theorizing) for why it didn't end up disappearing, or did Shion just have micropenis?

>>159948017
It looked like scanlation was dropped as soon as love triangle-kun reared his ugly head.

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>>159948017
>shoujo tomboys are the only tomboys that ever actually get fucked

>>159948075
Yeah, I think his issues stemmed from his tragic past/troubled childhood that he thought was because the gods had abandoned him. To him, the kiche sarjalians (Mokuren especially) were a symbol of everything he was never allowed to have.
>>159948075
>Did they ever give an explanation (not just theorizing) for why it didn't end up disappearing
I have a couple of theories but nope, no concrete explanations in the text.

>>159925976
Versailles no Bara.

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>ctrl+f
>no Nana
>on a shoujo discussion thread

Come on now

>>159948118
Love triangle's been simmering in the background ever since those shitty twins were introduced. At least it hasn't created any very dramatic misunderstandings.

>>159948337
your ctrl+f is broken then

>>159933197
>Why can't we have multiple OTPs with minimal drama where these cunts aren't the center of attention of every hot guy in their school?

Kare Kano did that, actually. And did it pretty good.

Any series like Glass Mask or Swan that focus on competition?

>>159933197
I like love triangles that resolve by the male lead sufficiently breaking in the heroine's pussy and then tossing her to the love rival so he can go become famous. Like in Paradise Kiss

>>159948337
Nana isn't a Shoujo

>>159948458
>Kare Kano
>minimal drama
a-anon-kun, r u okay?

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>>159948634
>Cookie
>not shojo
What?

>>159943261
I can't believe this shit is still ongoing

I remember reading the early volumes when Tokyopop was still a thing

>>159936793
Yes.

>>159939546
It's quite literally the last (original, since Sailor Moon and CCS got revived) mahou shoujo anime to be adapted from a shoujo manga.

>>159942943
>>159942997
>>159943057
You didn't have to samefag.

>>159944943
I miss old Ciao manga.

>>159945218
I fell hard for the manga after reading first chapter but fell out of love with it when it went in a different direction than I expected. The drama with Neelam and his brother was tiring in the first place and my eyes have been glazing over the raws for the whole India arc.

>>159948650
It was "minimal drama" in terms of "love triangle drama".

Arima problems was there because he was fucked up, but it wasn't a 100% drama all the fucking chapters.

>>159933197
Ore Monogatari, also.

>>159948836
>more than one person can tell arata will win because it's just that obvious
>samefagging
insecure taichifag

>>159948836
>You didn't have to samefag.
I'm the middle one. It seems more likely that multiple people in this thread feel as I do.

>>159948911
>suddenly three replies 1+ minutes apart saying the exact same shit

How is Crystal Dragon? I liked the start but I feel like manga that runs for that long loses its spark.

>man, I'm so fucking sick of those formulaic love stories full of tired-ass tropes and cardboard female leads
>let's check out some of that shoujo shit for a change
>love triangle
>love triangle
>love triangle
>love triangle
>love triangle

Alright then.

>>159949043
I also don't really like romance shoujo, but there is some shoujo that doesn't focus on romance.

>>159949043
Look for "romantic subplot" MU tag and you good to go.

>>159949003
Shit scans stopped me. I forget what it's even about. Wasn't the villain the LI or something?

>>159949145
I like this more than Strobe Edge, but that's mainly because the whole second half of Aoharaido doesn't exist in my mind.

>>159948987
>>suddenly
>people see vague post
>click link to post they replied to
>see overlooked post earlier in the thread
>reply
I think this is an Occam's razor situation bruh

>>159949190
Oh, shit, good thinking. There's hope yet.

>>159949273
>but that's mainly because the whole second half of Aoharaido doesn't exist in my mind
I was halfway through formulating my "fuck ao haru no ride" response to your post until I got to this clause.

>>159949308
>disappointed with guy you love
>decide to accept the confession of a boy, and try to start loving him as time goes on
>last second
>boy you like runs in
>kisses you
>fireworks
>"its only gon be you babe from now on"
>"swerve, nigga imma ragedate this cuck instead"

What are some good shoujo that have come out in the last few years? I feel like the only ones i'm reading either ended a long time ago, or have been ongoing for 10+ years.

Also, Oresama Teacher anime fucking when

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>>159949968
Yuugure Light is cute, but barely has any chapters out.
Magnet na Watashitachi (pic related) is short but good.
Guruguru Meguru is also another short manga.
Boku to Kimi no Taisetsu na Hanashi is cute and funny.
As for long-running ones, Hibi Chouchou was diabetes-inducing but also very slow build. Hanagimi to Koisuru Watashi is good but hasn't been updated in a year. Otonari Complex is pretty good. Nekota no Koto ga ki ni Natte Shikatanai is unique in that the male lead has a cat head for 99% of the manga.

>>159946656
>the sequel to that is currently still in serialization.
I've been meaning to tl a chapter or two of that

>>159950519
>Yuugure Light
I've heard it goes to absolute shit from multiple people. Never found out what actually happens.

>>159950519
>Nekota
Still salty that this didn't get a TV anime thanks to Ribon's contract? with Oha Suta. It would've made such a fun kids show.

imho (in order of how the stories kept me interested)
Hope > Peach Girl > Angel Sanctuary = Fruits Basket > *power gap* > MeruPuri

haven't finished PG, AS and FB though. Have read Vitamin (from the same author of Hope, but for some reason didn't like it as much), am procrastinating Life, Chihayafuru and Basara.

>>159950519
>Hibi Chouchou
That vomit-inducing love triangle at the very end though.
>Hanagimi to Koisuru Watashi
Hana-kun to Koisuru Watashi?
>Otonari Complex
I hate that insensitive cunt

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Why do I like Gentlemen's Alliance Cross so much even though I know it's garbage? I've seriously read through the whole thing twice

It has to be because of the trap actually winning his bowl and all the side pairings were more fun to watch

>>159950668
>Peach Girl
I skimmed it. Seemed like usual love triangle bullshit. IIRC at one point the bf is like "stay away from my big brother, he's a NTRguy" and she's like "haha, well I'm off to get sexually assaulted by your big brother!".

Angel Sanctuary was ruined by the ending (doppleganger NTR mindbreak impregnation). Sucks that best girl's loss was inevitable too.

>>159950782
Yeah I mostly ignored the love triangle. Didn't bother reading the extra chapter about the female senpai.

Guess I copied the name wrong, I think I got it from a reader site.

Who, the girl? I agree, she's more dense than usual. But I think it's still good overall.

>>159950875
Is that the one that ends with the loser of the love triangle moving into the couple's house after they're married and proclaiming his intention to NTR her, and the male lead is like "gtfo" but she's like "haha let him stay"?
I know the author wrote a manga like that.

>>159950973
>manga/love triangle ends with some slapstick rendition of "I'm still gonna try to fuck your gf!"
This is a bad trope.

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>>159949968
Personal favorites from different magazines:
>Takane to Hana (anime soon)
>Usotoki Rhetoric
>Nekota no Koto ga Ki ni Natte Shikatanai
>Kigurumi Guardians (if you're shallow like myself)
>Omoi, Omoware, Furi, Furare

>>159950925
>But I think it's still good overall.
I think the dynamics are all wrong
>alpha trap in one-sided love [ok]
>beta trap, she's in one-sided love [ok]
>beta trap in one-sided love [X]

>>159951116
7.5
7
6
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I forgot how stupidly cute love shit could be.

>>159923508
It's my favourite shoujo romance but there're other shoujo I prefer for other reasons.

I always appreciate that neither of the main guys was a shoujo dickbag.

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>>159951224
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun before Yamaken ruined it all
Robiko does good oneshots though.

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>>159951346

>>159950519
>>159951116
alright, thanks. i'll check some of them out.

>>159951224
The popular acorn-headed kid may become a triangle-kun

>>159951116
Is that dude autistic?

>>159951603
It's probable.
>26
>stacks of cash
>turbo virgin
>only love interests are a 15 yr-old and a tranny

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>>159951603
Just sheltered.

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Good MU tags to help avoid trash shoujo when searching:
>Interconnected Episodic
>Collection of Inter-Linked Stories
>Episodic
>Romantic Subplot
>Multiple protagonists
>Multiple romances
>Variations on a Theme
>Collection of stories
>Subtle Romance
>Main Pairing Doesn't Include Protagonist
One extra tip: "age progression" and "-male lead falls in love first" or "female lead falls in love first" can help filter shitty triangle/harem drama, if only slightly.

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Has anyone else read this? I enjoyed self-inserting into the MC

>>159950875
My sister loved this series like 10 years ago. A trap won? Picked up.

>>159952416
Trap does not win. Don't do it.

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>>159952397
Yes, it's great.
>yandere pretty boy is a psychopath and female lead can't "fix him" or befriend him just because he's hot like in any other shoujo series

The best. Souryo Fuyumi makes great characters.
>Boyfriend scans never
>3 scans never

>>159952397
Yes. I'm not usually into high school shoujo, but I count that one among my favorites.

>>159952454
Damn. I was baited into reading Love and Lies for the gay guy who has no chance of winning. The MC is terrible but everyone else was cool. I always root for the underdog.

>furuba

Everything about reverse trap was retarded. Rabbit-kid was the only trap I've ever liked. Kyo was alright, but the entire family structure, like if you hate them just move or something. Seahorse guy pissed me off more than anything. And I didn't like Tohru. I mean, her hobby is cleaning, who the fuck enjoys cleaning?

Also, does anyone remember DNAngel? The art was pretty and I liked the premise, but I never finished it. Worth reading further? I left off at where the one girl gets lost on the island.

>>159937557

Manga >>>>>>> anime. Hakyona is pretty canon. Also, the best boys are Yun and Jae-ha. Hak a shit. SHIIIIIT. But he's perfect with Yona.

Akatsuki no Yona is pretty damned good. Shame there's never a thread on it.

>>159944666

>double dubs and satan trips

Well shit, it must be true. I was gonna say he was just an okinawan.

>>159950875

I fucking loved Full moon o sagashite. I need to read this. Her art is just too pretty and I liked the sad-sweet story.

>>159953579
Full Moon is easily her magnum opus. It's all downhill from there.

>>159944883
It's not /pol/'s fault that the Jews in charge of the shoujo manga industry are trying to convert the Japanese to Islam.

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>>159953763
wrong pic